#Marquez 1950

[alainas-sims]

Gloria's Diary

Eighteen at last! I got the most gorgeous teal dress for my birthday with a full skirt, and I must say I look stunning! Goodbye to high school— but Salim will be attending a local university to earn a business degree. (More of his parents' idea than his own, as his real passion lies with writing.)

I've thought about whether I'd want to go to college too, but Mom says that's not necessary as a man will provide for me someday. And if Salim asked me to marry him, I would accept without a doubt. I'm confident he and I could build a beautiful life together.

When Salvador is working, Mary sometimes comes to visit Mom and me with baby Estela and she is ADORABLE! I can see it now, the kind of life I'd want with Salim, with children of our own, after he graduates of course.

[alainas-sims-sins]

I've loved you three summers now, honey, but I want 'em all 🎶

[books-log]

[psikonauti]

Roberto Fabelo (Cuban, b. 1950)

El Coronel No Tiene Quien Le Escriba.Garcia Marquez, 1998

Colored pencil

[comicsart3]

The Sensational Rocket Girls are a non-too-serious retro set of space heroines created by artist and storyteller Don Marquez in 2015. His (to date) four-issue series features an all female crew of space mechanics, salvage experts and adventurers operating on the edge of the solar system in the 23rd century. Picking up a mysterious distress signal, the Rocket Girls set off to discover its source, which takes them beyond the solar system and into a barely explored zone known as The Scattered Disc.

Marquez’s cover art is shamelessly based on 1950s exploitative movie posters and covers to SF pulp magazines, featuring unfeasibly tight space costumes and large breasts. Inside the comics’ pages however, the stories themselves, while undeniably camp, have a much more serious edge and the Rocket Girls themselves are depicted as intelligent and relatively normal proportioned young women. In the course of their adventures they encounter genetically-engineered half insect monsters, renegade interstellar villains and lovestruck heroines, in true classic adventures style.

For all I know, Marquez will issue further editions of the Space Girls, which I really hope is the case because they just don’t make feisty light-hearted heroines like this anymore.

Source: Amazon

[atarahderek]

We Don't Talk About Bubo...

...and that's a real shame.

Now, let me make something clear: The writers of Encanto were right to cut Bubo Marquez and his arc with Isabela from the movie. It would've crowded the plot, and at the time, it was unnecessary for Isa to have a love interest or for Mariano to have any kind of rival. But that does not mean Bubo is a worthless character who deserves to be hated. His intended role in the film, along with the character design, reveal something very important about Isabela: She inherited her mother's tastes. I mean, look at this dork!

He's basically Agustín, but as a student in the 1950s.

What's more, because we never officially met Bubo, he is a blank slate. He can be pretty much anything you want him to be. We know he's interested in nature and knows (or thinks he knows) a few things about wild animals and/or survival. We know he was named after an owl for some reason. And we know he's notably shorter than Isa. But beyond that, the man is a mystery. A tabula rasa. We can do whatever we want with him. So that's what I did.

Bubo appears in my fic Patchwork (currently on hiatus due to the need to rework a couple of chapters). Part of my intention with that fic was to establish my own head canon for this character. Since I don't know when (or if) I'll finish that fic, let me share my own personal Bubo head canon with you all.

Bubo is from Bogotá.

He has an older sister named Rosa. Rosa suffers from lupus and also has vitiligo.

Bubo and Rosa attend a university in Bogotá--Bubo as an undergrad and Rosa as a graduate working on her doctorate.

The two of them are very close.

Bubo is shorter than Rosa, so she will never not get to refer to him as her little brother.

Bubo has been interested in ornithology since he was a child. His favorite bird is the great horned owl. His friends eventually nicknamed him Bubo because he would not stop talking about the owl, always calling it by its binomial, Bubo virginianus.

His real name is Alfonso.

Bubo is studying wildlife biology.

When Bubo meets Isabela, they hit it off right away, and agree to write one another.

Isa also becomes good friends with Rosa.

Bubo eventually visits the Encanto, where he meets Antonio and begs him to help him find the rare Andean condor.

Isa and Bubo date for a while, but nothing really comes of it, and their paths eventually diverge for a time. Bubo, Rosa and Isa remain good friends, however.

Whether or not Bubo and Isa ever get back together, I don't know.

[lboogie1906]

Lorraine Vélez (November 2, 1964) is a singer and actress, who has specialized in musical theatre. Her name has sometimes appeared as Loraine Velez. She is the identical twin sister of actress Lauren Vélez.

Her parents moved from Puerto Rico in the early 1950s and lived in Brooklyn. The twins were born in Brooklyn. They have five other sisters and one brother. Their father was a New York City Police Department officer. They each received scholarships to attend the Alvin Ailey Dance School. They both went on to study acting at the Acting Studio.

Her first professional job was singing and acting for the Theater for the New City. She went on to play in Dreamgirls at the Ambassador Theater on Broadway, and she performed in the off-Broadway production of Does a Tiger Wear a Necktie? She played Leah and Sister Hilton in the original Black Nativity, Young Maria in Maria de Buenos Aires, and Anita in West Side Story. In the independent film A Day Out of Days, she took the role of Roxanne. With a production of Blues in the Night, she toured throughout Central and South America, and she sang in Japan and France.

She moved to London, where she worked regularly for a number of years on the West End stage. She played Carmen in the original cast of the musical Fame. He recorded the title track of the Fame CD.

She played Hannah in Out of the Blue, Lena Horne in Mama, I Want to Sing!, and Gigi in Miss Saigon. She featured as Heidi in Frightmares. She took part in the production of Rent and cast in the role of Mimi Marquez.

She performed the role of Mimi on Broadway. She was cast as Tutu in Piñero. She was a guest artist on The Rosie O’Donnell Show and HBO Latino, she played Abby Bishop ion Law & Order. She was on a Buddhist retreat (2008-09). She sang for the Dalai Lama.

She starred in Off-Broadway musical DC7, The Life of Roberto Clemente, in the role of Clemente’s wife, Vera Zabala. She took the show to Puerto Rico and was awarded the New York Latin ACE Award for best actress in a musical production. She continues to make TV and stage appearances, and she played Claudia in Elementary.

She is divorced with one adult son. #africanhistory365 #africanexcellence

[arenakoraine]

POST-EDSA 1 REVOLUTION: 2 REMARKABLE FILIPINO WRITERS

Nicomedes Marquez Joaquin

Short biography:

Nick Joaquín was a Filipino writer born in 1917 to a prosperous and deeply Catholic family in Manila. Although his father was once a popular lawyer, their family fortune was lost in the 1920s. Nick dropped out of school and later worked at the Tribune publishing company. He gained recognition after World War II with the publication of his signature stories like "Summer Solstice" and "May Day Eve." He was also a public figure in Philippine letters and joined the Philippine Free Press in 1950. His notable works include the novel The Woman Who Had Two Navels and the play A Portrait of the Artist as Filipino. Nick Joaquín was conferred the rank and title of National Artist of the Philippines for Literature and considered one of the most important Filipino writers.

Contribution:

Nick Joaquín's contribution to Philippine literature includes his writings on the Spanish colonial period, exploration of the Filipino heritage, and the intricacies of human nature. He was honored as a national artist for literature in 1976.

Reference:

Nick Joaquin: The Biography. (n.d.). http://kathangpinoy.blogspot.com/2014/04/nick-joaquin-biography.html?m=1

Photo source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nick_Joaquin_Portrait_from_Fringe.jpg

Carlo Magno Jose Caparas

Short biography:

Carlo Magno Jose Caparas (born December 15, 1948) is a Filipino comic strip creator, writer, film director, and producer. He is well-known for creating popular Filipino superheroes and comic book characters such as Panday, Bakekang, Totoy Bato, Joaquin Bordado, Kamagong, Kamandag, Elias Paniki, Tasya Fantasya, Gagambino, Pieta, and Ang Babaeng Hinugot sa Aking Tadyang. He is also recognized as a director of numerous films, including massacre films like Kuratong Baleleng and The Cory Quirino Kidnap: NBI Files. Caparas has received various awards and recognition for his contributions to Philippine popular culture, and he continues to be a prominent figure in the Philippine entertainment industry.

Contribution:

He is best known for creating such Filipino superheroes and comic book characters as Panday, Bakekang, Totoy Bato, Joaquin Bordado, Kamagong, Kamandag, Elias Paniki, Tasya Fantasya, Gagambino, Pieta and Ang Babaeng Hinugot sa Aking Tadyang, among others.

Reference:

Wikiwand - Carlo J. Caparas. (n.d.). Wikiwand. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Carlo_Caparas

Photo source: https://mydramalist.com/people/42319-carlo-j-caparas

[jovelagraceorabe]

FAMOUS FILIPINO WRITERS

Photo edit: https://businessmirror.com.ph/2019/07/05/when-the-nation-was-an-easy-street/

PAZ MARQUEZ- BENITEZ

Paz marquez was a celebrated filipino writers, known for her contribution to philippine literature the early 20th century. She was born on March 3, 1884, in Lucena City Quezon Province, Philippines and grew up in a family of intellectuals.

Benitez received her education at the University of Philippines, where ahe became involve in various literary organization and publication. In 1925, she wrote her famous work, the short story "Dead Star" which was published the Philippine history and has since became a classic of Philippine.

"Dead Star" explores theme of love and regret and the passage of the time and its noted for its vivid characterization and masterful use for language. The story also reflected tension between tradition and modernity in the Philippines society, which were becoming increasingly pronounced during the early 20th century.

Benitez was also deducted teacher and educator. She taught English and Literature at the University of the Philippines for over three decades and was known for her committed to promoting the values of education and social responsibility

Paz Benitez passed away on November 10, 1983 at the age of 89. Ther legacy as a writers and educator continues to inspire generations of Filipino.

photo edit: https://www.carlospromulo.org/bio

CARLOS ROMULO

Carlos P. Romulo was born on January 14, 1899, in Camiling, Tarlac, Philippines. He was the son of Gregorio Romulo, a former mayor of Camiling, and Margarita Pecson. Romulo's parents were both educated and had high aspirations for their children. Romulo's father encouraged him to pursue an education in law, which he did, graduating from the University of the Philippines in 1918.

Romulo began his career as a journalist and worked as a reporter for various newspapers in the Philippines and the United States. He then went on to work for the Manila Bulletin, where he eventually became editor-in-chief. In 1941, he was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of the war in Europe.During World War II, Romulo served as an aide to General Douglas MacArthur and played a significant role in the liberation of the Philippines from Japanese occupation. After the war, he served as the Philippines' ambassador to the United States from 1946 to 1952. He was also the president of the United Nations General Assembly from 1949 to 1950.

In addition to his political and diplomatic career, Romulo was also a prolific writer. He wrote numerous books, including his autobiography, "I Walked with Heroes," and the Pulitzer Prize-winning play, "The Shroud of Darkness." He was also a regular contributor to various newspapers and magazines, including the New York Times.Romulo was known for his eloquence and his passionate advocacy for the Philippines and the Filipino people. He was a staunch defender of democracy and human rights and played a significant role in shaping the political and social landscape of his country.

[jenplayssims]

1890s No CC Couples!

Gallery ID: HawkeyeTARDIS

I mentioned in a previous post that I had a project going of making couples/families for the Decades Challenge using no CC. Meet the families of the 1890s!

Edith and Jasper Mason

Camila, Ana Luisa, and Pedro Marquez

Yan, Xiulan, and Shen Li (*I know that Chinese naming conventions place the family name first- but for purposes of family tree and how EA lineage works, I went with the western naming convention)

Mary and William Smith - my original Decades founders years ago. Not as period accurate, but dressed less fancy than the other families. 

All of these sims have been dressed time period appropriately for all outfit categories. Use them as you wish! Enjoy!

1890s/1900s/1910s/1920s/1930s/1940s/1950s/1960s

[alainas-sims]

Gloria began basic nursing training at a hospital to prepare for becoming a volunteer army nurse and going to Korea to serve. Some afternoons after her classes, she met up with Betsy, Naomi, and June to stroll around the city and look in the windows of their favorite shops. Meanwhile, between his college classes, Salim enjoyed writing short stories for the campus literary magazine, as well as reading, often stopping by the Morales apartment to do so.

As the date for her to leave for Korea neared, Gloria found her conversations with Salim becoming more serious, with a sense of underlying urgency. Though he hadn't proposed yet, he had broached the topic several times. "After you come back and after I graduate, we should get married, Inshallah."

"Of course. Nothing would make me happier, my love," she said. Emboldened by his promise, Gloria felt herself confident enough to take the next step. Shortly before she was set to leave, one thing led to another, and any anxiety Gloria may have had melted away in Salim's arms.

[elisabethdenis]

To continue on yesterday’s vein, here’s my eternally stretching books-that-moved-me list:

1. Silences - Gilles Vigneault

2. Strange Pilgrims - Gabriel Garcia Marquez

3. Je viens d’ailleurs - Chahdortt Djavann

4. Franz Kafka - Letters to Felice

5. A personal matter - Kenzaburo Oe

6. Tranformation - Joyce Tenneson (photography)

7. Grapefruit - Yoko Ono (a book of instruction)

8.Can you ever forgive me? - Lee Israel

9. Cesare Pavese - The business of living (diaries 1935-1950)

10. Letters to father - Franz Kafka

11. The diaries of Franz Kafka

12. Letters to Milena - Franz Kafka

13. Ashes and snow Book No.1 - Gregory Colbert (photography)

14. Norwegian Woods - Haruki Murakami

15. Just kids - Patti Smith

16. Silk - Alessandro Baricco

17. The unknown craftsman: a Japanese insight into beauty -  Yanagi Sōetsu

18. Americanah -  Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

19. Small country -  Gaël Faye

20. Deep water - Patricia Highsmith

21. La bulle d’encre - Suzanne Jacob

22. The writing life - Annie Dillard

23. A field guide to getting lost - Rebecca Solnit

24. Teaching on love - Thich Nhat Hanh

25, The stranger in the woods - Michael Finkel

26. The trial - Franz Kafka 

27. The dinner - Herman Koch

28. In Cold blood - Truman Capote 

29. In the country of last things - Paul Auster

30. The bell jar - Sylvia Plath

31. She’s come undone - Wally Lamb

32. The catcher in the rye - J.D Salinger

33. Amititau! Parlons-nous! - Laure Morali

34. Document 1 - François Blais

35. Demian - Herman Hesse 

36. All these wonders - The moth

37. Cave in the snow - Vicki Mackenzee

Yes, this is me, in a tree, with Gilles Vigneault resting in my hand.

Share if we share most-loved bookies.

Tell me what your favorite books are. 

[dear-indies]

Hi! Would you happen to know if nia peeples has playable resources somewhere? So far she’s the only filipino fc I found that fits my characters age range (in her 50/60s), but I couldn’t find much… unless I don’t know how to look for that, which is totally possible too. Thanks for the help!

Pilar Pilapil (1950) Filipino.

Marissa Delgado (1951) Filipino.

Gloria Diaz (1951) Ilocano and Spanish Filipino.

Coney Reyes (1954) Tagalog Filipino.

Chanda Romero (1954) Filipino [including Spanish].

Charo Santos-Concio (1955) Filipino [including Spanish].

Raquel Monteza (1955) Filipino / Unspecified American.

Dexter Doria (1955) Filipino.

Evangeline Pascual (1956) Filipino.

Maria Isabel Lopez (1957) Filipino.

Ces Quesada (1958) Filipino.

Evangeline Pascual (1958) Filipino.

Elizabeth Oropesa (1958) Bicolano Filipino.

Malou de Guzman (1958) Filipino.

Isabel Rivas (1958) Filipino and Chinese.

Susan Africa (1959) Filipino.

Sandy Andolong (1959) Tagalog Filipino.

Nia Peeples (1961) Filipino / Scottish, English, and Irish.

Amy Austria (1961) Filipino.

Rio Locsin (1961) Tagalog Filipino.

Suzette Ranillo (1961) Filipino.

Tetchie Agbayani (1961) Filipino.

Lorna Tolentino (1961) Kapampangan and Spanish Filipino.

Liz Alindogan (1962) Bicolano Filipino.

Irma Adlawan (1962) Filipino.

Cherie Gil (1963) Filipino / Filipino, German, Swiss - including Spanish.

Carmi Martin (1963) Filipino.

Zsa Zsa Padilla (1964) Filipino.

Melissa Mendez (1964) Filipino.

Jackie Lou Blanco (1964) Filipino [including Spanish].

Ai-Ai delas Alas (1964) Filipino.

Jaclyn Jose (1964) Filipino.

Melanie Marquez (1964) Kapampangan Filipino.

Maila Gumila (1965) Filipino.

Shamaine Buencamino (1965) Filipino.

Bb Gandanghari (1965) Filipino - trans woman.

Maricel Soriano (1965) Filipino.

Pops Fernandez (1966) Filipino.

Snooky Serna (1966) Filipino [including Spanish].

Ruby Rodriguez (1966) Filipino [including Spanish].

Pinky Amador (1966) Filipino [including Spanish].

Agot Isidro (1966) Filipino / Palestinian.

Yayo Aguila (1967) Filipino.

Christine Jacob (1967) Filipino / German American.

Tia Carrere (1967) Spanish, Chinese and Bisaya Filipino - sometimes said to be Native Hawaiian too but unsure.

Eula Valdez (1968) Filipino.

Janice de Belen (1968) Filipino.

Lovely Rivero (1969) Filipino.

Maritoni Fernandez (1969) Filipino / English, Irish.

Jean Garcia (1969) Kapampangan Filipino.

Alice Dixson (1969) Filipino / Unspecified American.

Jaya (1970) Bisaya Filipino / Afro-Jamaican and Spanish Filipino.

Regine Velasquez (1970) Tagalog Filipino.

Cherry Pie Picache (1970) Kapampangan Filipino.

I sadly couldn't find any roleplay resources for Filipino women in their 50/60s at the time of posting but here are some more suggestions along side yours! They've all been in recent media too if any resources makers need suggestions!

[diversereadingchallenge]

Prompt 13 Rec List

Here are some recs for prompt 12 of the Diverse Reading Challenge 2022. Full prompt list is here

Prompt 13 -  A magical realism book by a Latinx author

Dark and Deepest Red - Anna-Marie McLemore

A YA book. In 1518 a mysterious dancing plague takes hold of a city, and rumors of witchcraft spread. In the modern day, a teen girl puts on a pair of red shoes, that makes her dance uncontrollably. The prose is gorgeous and lush, and it is an interesting fairy tale retelling.  

Her Body and Other Parties: Stories - Carmen Maria Machado

This is a collection of short stories, focusing on women’s lives and the violence inflicted on women’s bodies. They are haunting, and memorable, with gorgeous prose. 

Note: I have not personally read the following books, but they are on my to read list. 

Each of Us a Desert - Mark Oshiro

A YA novel, it follows Xo who is destined to wander the desert alone. Her one wish for a companion is granted, as she and another girl must journey across the desert together. 

Mexican Gothic - Silvia Moreno-Garcia

Set in 1950′s Mexico, it follows Noemi, who journeys to an isolated mansion, after receiving a mysterious letter from her cousin. 

One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez

A classic novel, it tells the history of the Buendiá family, and the rise and fall of the town of Macondo. 

[ghosthan]

what would you say are the differences between 616 Tony and MCU Tony? 🤔

Hi anon! Many people have talked about this and I'm certainly not the authority on the topic, but I’ll try my best to explain some of the major differences that I have noticed! Thank you for asking and I’m sorry it took me so long to answer you.

Important to note: neither version of Tony has had a totally consistent characterization. Depending on who you ask and which comics/movies they've consumed, they might give you a different answer here and not be wrong.

616 Tony is even harder to put into one box because his character has been around since Tales of Suspense in the 1950s. That’s a long time. Things have changed over time, under different writers, changing political atmospheres, and outside pop culture influence (including influence from the MCU, unfortunately, in recent years.) You get the picture. So I’ll be making some generalizations and try to be clear about which eras I’m speaking when I make these comparisons, but ultimately, if someone wanted to be contrarian, you could probably refute a lot of what I say here if you cherry pick canon. Which is fair enough! That’s sort of the fun of comics, there’s so much to choose from and something for everyone.

So here are some observations from me, under the ‘read more’.

1. Physical Appearance

This is sort of an easy one, but worth mentioning!

MCU Tony does not look like 616 Tony. RDJ is great, but he would not be most 616 fans’ casting choice on looks alone. MCU Tony is tan, a Malibu man, with brown hair and brown eyes, and RDJ has sort of round facial features (a funny sloped nose, big, round eyes, round forehead, not a particularly sharp or classically “superhero masculine” face.) As you may know, this lends well to certain fanworks and tropes, such as Tony having Bambi eyes.

Or Tiny Tony. He is not actually canonically small, but he's smaller in the MCU than in 616 and from what I can tell, a portion of fandom has latched onto that. He’s a grown man, but RDJ is pretty short, and of slighter build than 616 Tony. RDJ is 5′9, but they make him act in heels, and I believe his canon MCU height is 5′11. Another popular trope I’ve seen is shrinking Tony in fanfic/fanart for a dramatized height difference with Steve, making him weak or fragile; this is fine because everyone has their own taste, but for the official record, he’s a capable, strong guy! Especially in earlier stages of the MCU, in which he’s a bit younger. Tony isn’t just a brain; he carries out his plans with his own two hands! He builds his armor, he remodels his lab, he survives hand to hand combat when he doesn’t have the armor. Muscles!

616 Tony is 6′1 without armor and 6′6 in armor (making him taller than his 616 Steve counterpart in armor and very close to the same height out of armor!) 616 Tony is generally paler with black hair (sometimes the classic blue-black I love so much) and blue eyes, and it obviously depends on the artist, but he has a pretty typically ‘masculine’ face and build. Generally he is drawn with a squared jaw and a high bridged nose (such as in the Extremis storyline, or drawn by Marquez), but again, this varies from artist to artist! Here's some examples of 616 Tonys.

Wait, you might be saying, but I have seen comic panels where Tony has brown hair/brown eyes!

Yep. Due to a combination of forgetfulness, inconsistency, and the MCU bleeding into the general consciousness of the comics, sometimes Tony is randomly depicted in the image of RDJ, or if not in his image, at least visually inspired by the MCU-- hair color and style, eye color, dialogue, etc.

616 fans don’t typically love this; he’s very handsome when drawn this way, of course, (look at him!) But it isn’t really the same character.

Also, MCU Tony has (at least for some of his movies) a reactor built into his chest. While 616 Tony has, at times, been more or less physically connected/dependent to his tech, he doesn’t have the built in reactor (most generally speaking, there are times in comics when he temporarily has the tech built in, but this isn’t really the status quo.)

2. Relationship with parents/ family history

While it is definitely implied in the MCU that Howard was not a good father to Tony, (such as in Iron Man 2 when Tony says “You're talking about a man whose happiest day of his life was shipping me off to boarding school” and “He was cold, calculating, never told me he loved me, never even told me he liked me”), Tony has a different sort of attitude toward Howard in MCU than in 616. It’s kind of weird, and hard to discuss. To me, it seems implied that MCU Howard was emotionally abusive to Tony based on what Tony does say about his childhood, and yet, the films kind of randomly give Howard weird moments of “Well, he tried his best and deep down he loved me the whole time!” forgiveness. MCU has a Howard kink and I'm very cringe-face emoji about it.

For example, Iron Man 2 shows that old film reel of Howard talking about how Tony is the greatest thing he ever created, and in Endgame, when Tony goes back in time, he meets Howard and has a very weird interaction with him in which Howard declares he would do anything for his son, (to his deeply damaged son who is a new father himself.) Yet, for all his talk, it's his actions that speak, and his actions left Tony damaged, traumatized, and emotionally inept at forming healthy relationships. So.

Sorry. I’m a little bitter. I'm just uncomfortable with how they sort of set up an abuse history but then treated it kind of lightly and Howard gets off the hook as "well, he tried his best" without really acknowledging the hurt he caused.

Avengers: Endgame 2019

I won't go super in depth into the abuse stuff because it's a little touchy and could take up a lot of this post. But.

I’m not against any reconciliation and I do appreciate the fact that a lot of times, victims of abuse feel a desire to forgive and reconnect with their abuser-- my issue with the MCU depiction of Tony and Howard is that Tony never really gets the vindication of his abuse being recognized for what it was before he forgives Howard. To me, that’s not forgiveness as kind of... gaslighting himself that it wasn't as bad as he remembered his own experience being, because of a sense of nostalgia and grief. It’s not the same, and I have issues with it.

However, a lot of my opinion is based on subtext and it is just my opinion; with depictions of abuse, different people are going to react differently, and other people may have found these scenes touching and gotten something positive out of them, and that's totally fine too!

It’s also a bit difficult to talk about Tony’s relationship with Howard in 616, for a few reasons: shifting timelines, lots of canon that I have not read all of, and the fact that it really is difficult to sum up such a complicated relationship.

Right off the bat, I’ll address the basics. I used the same scene in another ask, and I think it's frequently cited in any meta regarding Howard, but in Iron Man Vol. 1, we see more into Tony’s childhood and see Howard verbally abusing his family, drunk, at the dinner table.

Iron Man Vol. 1 #285

We get this scene with adult Tony’s retrospective commentary on how his own issues that he blamed himself for were actually a cycle starting with his father, the insecurity and abuse and alcohol, and that he realizes how much this has influenced him. Both MCU Tony and 616 Tony have some form of “stop the cycle of shame” arcs, but I don’t really see how this works narratively in the MCU because Tony makes excuses for Howard and continues to blame himself for a lot of his own personal struggles, whereas I think there’s just a bit more nuance in 616.

But uh. This isn’t totally true, and in recent years, things got real weird. I choose to ignore this chapter of canon, but in the Dan Slott run, Tony Stark: Iron Man, Tony’s whole backstory gets imploded. For one thing, the little of Tony’s childhood it shows in a flashback is uh. Uh. Well, it’s certainly out of character compared with previous 616 material, depicting Tony as an overly confident poor sport.

Basically, Tony is adopted. Tony has an evil brother. Tony’s biological parents make an appearance, as do his ‘classic’ parents, Howard and Maria. It’s just weird. It’s kind of out there. I’m honestly not a huge fan of this and ignore a lot of it, but it is certainly a difference between MCU and 616.

3. Personality

I’m going to be very general. Both Tony’s have an outer self which they present to the public and an inner self, but they’re a bit different. Both Tony’s have struggled with self loathing, but I think MCU Tony’s actual self worth is a bit higher, even just at some points in time. Even if his ego is part of his facade, I think he does believe some amount of the “I’m awesome”, even if just when it applies to his own work/inventions/saving people. Not to say that these moments of fluctuating self esteem make him egotistical, but this combined with his egotistical act and snarky, non-stop sassy dialogue, he’s quite different in general personality from 616 Tony, who is much more reserved.

Some more recent iterations of 616 Tony have been adapted to reflect the snark of the MCU, but he’s not so snarky and he tends to approach things more seriously. This is not a dis on MCU Tony; I think MCU Tony uses false ego and excessive sassy jokes as a means to deflect and control, which I think is very interesting and it’s nice to see this explored more in depth in fic where you get to see the thought process behind the bravado. MCU Tony is a partier, a good times guy, especially during Iron Man 2, in which he really does disregard consequences to have fun (driving his race car, partying drunk in his suit, letting pretty  girls play with the armor, shooting off repulsor blasts for fun in a crowded room); I’m not bashing MCU Tony-- I think he had psychologically understandable reasons for behaving this way, the man was dying-- but 616 Tony really doesn’t act this way generally, and I think it’s a personality difference more than a difference of one being “better.”

616 Tony handles his stress differently, and they just have different psychological patterns, I think. I’m coming up kind of blank trying to think of a good comparable 616 arc, (sorry, I’m brain dead) but a less-than-perfect  example might be Tony’s brain delete arc; he’s “dying”, like in Iron Man 2 he  knows his expiration date, (circumstances are quite  a bit different), but he throws himself more into work, into a cause, and as he really fall apart, we  see him spiral into self doubt, remorse, fear, and insecurity, sort of falling into  himself with lots of manly tears and calling himself pathetic.

(Some things happen in this arc that a lot of people find Gross. I also find these events gross. But. I don’t count the sex in “World’s Most Wanted” as partying to cope with personal mortality, because I think both character involved are in “end of the world” mode, and it’s more seeking intimacy for comfort than partying to numb the hurt. Does this distinction make sense? No? Perfect, moving on.) 616 Tony is generally much more humble.

Whereas MCU Tony, I think, tries to outrun those feelings via parties or making dozens of new suits, or seeking comfort by comforting others! Gifting things to people, building things for people, highly personalized individual living quarters, teaching Nebula games and trying to show her a fun time when they were in peril together.

They have some traits in common, for sure! But canon being inconsistent both in the MCU and in 616, my observations aren’t the rule, because I’m kind of cherry picking and going based on limited memory. But off the top of my head, they’re both extravagant gift givers! Recall Tony gifting Pepper the giant bunny in Iron Man 3, and compare this with Tony carrying a mile high pile of Christmas gifts after shopping with Rumiko in Iron Man Vol. #3.

I would say that while both Tony Starks are considered humanitarians, this is much more fleshed out and supported by canon in 616. Some examples of his philanthropy in the MCU: Tony makes charitable donations of art and money, Tony has an organization which provides disaster relief/cleanup which is referenced in Spider-Man Homecoming, Tony has an MIT grant for students and staff members. But to be honest, a lot of his MCU philanthropy is only mentioned in passing, or is largely handled by other people on his behalf and on his dollar.

In 616, we see Tony using charity almost as a means of therapy: it’s something he does very privately, not in the public eye (at least, not always), and it’s something deeply personal to him. One example that immediately comes to mind is Tony’s home for disadvantaged girls in Iron Man Vol. 3, and we see scenes of Tony basically driving the streets at night, picking up underage prostitutes, feeding them and listening to their stories before bringing them to a home he’s established where he knows all the residents, and provides educational opportunities and protection.

Another more recent example in canon that the Tony fandom loves is that Tony canonically holds babies at an orphanage. Sorry I don’t have panels for all of this, this section got long and I have been working on answering this ask in a very scattered way for a very long time.

Both Tony’s are romantics, I literally could write a whole other post about their canon love life similarities and differences, but I will briefly say that while MCU Tony does the long on and off, and eventual ultimate commitment, to Pepper Potts, 616 Tony is a serial monogamist; he is always falling in love, and he’s definitely not a playboy, but the hero-ing, self loathing, and lifestyle make it very hard for him to keep anyone in his life, and most of his partners fuck his life up and betray him. Needless to say, 616 Tony is not married, and certainly not to Pepper Potts.

Oh, and I guess this is so obvious I almost forgot to include it, but a huge similarity between both iterations of Tony is that they both constantly use their own life as a bargaining chip, and will pretty much die for anything. Or be the bad guy for a good reason (at least, in his own mind... see Civil War, or Hickmanvengers; 616 Tony, especially, does not shy away from making the hard decisions, and this leads to a lot of guilt and tension in his  relationships-- often with Steve because 616 Steve/Tony angst fans are well fed, I guess)

Remember that time Tony had Steve’s mind wiped because Tony felt that Steve’s inflexible morality might hinder the Illuminati’s ability to save the world? And it eats Tony up inside and erupts into a homicidal fight when Steve finally gets his memory back? Me too.

Tony Stark as a character is defined by sacrifice, both of his own life but also of his own happiness and reputation and conscience, I think, in a lot of ways, and we see this in many universes. I could go on about Tony’s propensity for sacrifice in the less obvious ways, because I think in terms of heroic sacrifice, Tony has done a lot that other heroes wouldn’t be able to do because of moral inflexibility and conflicting philosophical schools of thought; Tony really is the “whatever it takes” type, and often believes the ends justify the means if he deems a threat worse than the potential wrong that could be done in preventing the threat. We see this a little bit in the MCU in the creation of Ultron, and in Civil War with the Accords. But there’s a whole lot more going on there I don’t want to get into.

4. Alcohol

MCU Tony’s alcoholism is never really explicitly explored. He is shown drinking in Iron Man 1, and in Iron Man 2 he drinks a lot and makes a fool of himself publicly, but MCU Tony doesn’t get any specific narrative arc focused on his drinking, and if I recall correctly, I don’t think he ever refers to his drinking as alcoholism in the movies? Also, while his binge drinking and embarrassing behaviors ostensibly stop after the events of Iron Man 2, he is shown drinking on screen at least one other time after that which I can remember, and it wasn’t a “falling off the wagon” moment, and an alcoholic in recovery such as 616 Tony would not take a drink casually. This article sheds a little light on some decisions made about Tony and alcohol in the MCU.

Alcoholism is a huge part of 616 Tony’s personality, which I went a bit more into depth about in this post, so I won’t repeat myself too much.

5. Their relationships with the Iron Man armor

A few points here: MCU Tony is famous for the “I am Iron Man” line being repeated throughout the franchise after he blows his own secret in the end of the first movie. MCU Tony sees himself as one with Iron Man, and the suit is the tech that enables him to be this version of himself. He sees Tony Stark and Iron Man as inextricable: you cannot separate them, and his identity is public. He, as Tony Stark, is an Avenger.

You may remember MCU Tony’s induction into the Avengers; in Iron Man 2, Nick Fury is forming the Avengers and tasks the Black Widow with going undercover to assess Tony to be a part of a hypothetical initiative. “Iron Man yes, Tony Stark no” and the comments about Tony as a narcissist may be funny, but the fact is, the snark and erratic personality of MCU Tony at the time of the formation of the Avengers in the movies is not at all like the Tony of the comics, at the time of the Avengers being formed. 

In 616, things are quite a bit different! Tony invents the Iron man armor to save himself (like in the MCU) and uses it for hero-ing, but in secret. He works very hard to protect his identity as Iron Man, and for a long time, as far as the world is concerned, Iron man is a mystery man piloting armor built by Tony, hired as Tony’s personal body guard, (hence the 616 Steve/Tony fandom’s proclivity for identity porn as a trope!) When the Avengers form, Iron Man is the Avenger, close friends with the Avengers, (particularly Steve!) and Tony Stark is just the benefactor of the Avengers, providing them with a place to live and finances with which to operate.

In the very early days, Tony did not have the “reactor” like in the MCU, but his chest plate did keep him alive, leading to some very dramatic shots of Tony charging up using a wall socket, lamenting the plight of a secret hero.

616 Tony, generally, and especially in some of these earlier comics, was quite reserved, rather serious, and very angsty, (in private of course.) He may be wealthy, but speaking generally, he’s much less ostentatious than MCU Tony, less of a show off, less into flashy things and grand gestures. Of course, this isn’t always true in the comics, and some iterations of Tony are more like this than others, but MCU Tony is showier, sillier, and more of a fun-times guy. Any MCU fan would find those panels quite contrary to the Tony Stark you know:

Iron Man 1

Iron Man 2

I think I would say that while MCU Tony sees himself and the Iron Man identity and the  armor as all being inextricably connected, we see a bit more compartmentalization with 616 Tony, who pretends that the armor is a whole separate person for years when his identity was private, and we see instances in older and newer comics, in which Tony  is uncomfortable with some aspect of himself as Iron Man (for instance, during the second drinking arc, Tony temporarily swears off being Iron Man entirely, or for another example, when Tony is in a comma and Tony AI exists during Secret Empire, Tony “lives” in the Iron Man suit, and I think this could be interpreted as a meta parallel to Steve during this arc; Steve has had some core aspect of his character inverted, Captain America becoming Captain Hydra, so Tony experiences a similar inversion-- Tony Stark and Iron Man are forcibly merged, in a way that Tony seems deeply uncomfortable with, if his digital drinking relapse is any indication. But I digress; sorry for the tangent.)

Okay this post is inexcusable long, and very, very tangential, and I don’t feel like I’ve really covered everything I wanted to. But it has been sitting in my inbox for too long and if I don’t post it now I never will, so I hope this long, rambling thing has been a little bit helpful to you! Thank you so much for asking, I had a lot of fun rambling about this.

If you want to read a similar post, but well written and organized, with other insights, this post by Sineala answers a similar question!

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Reading Challenge 2021 (50/50)

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Mình có thể đọc một quyển sách dày nghìn trang trong hai ngày, rồi khóc vì nó suốt một tháng sau đó. Đấy, lý do mình đọc chậm đấy.

Mục tiêu đọc năm nay (thay đổi theo tâm trạng, nhưng vẫn là những gì mình muốn làm):

Đọc càng nhiều Murakami càng tốt, để ít nhất nắm được một cách khái quát lối viết và cách xây dựng cốt truyện chung của ông. Không có ý định trở thành người hâm mộ.

Đọc cho hết những cuốn kinh điển đã có trên giá từ lâu, như Chúa Nhẫn, Bóng ma trong nhà hát, Trăm năm cô đơn, Đồi gió hú, Giã từ vũ khí. Thật ra thì sau môn Văn học tiếng Anh kỳ trước, mình cũng hiểu được sự cần thiết của việc đọc tác phẩm kinh điển rồi.

Đọc thêm văn học Việt Nam hiện đại. Nguyễn Huy Thiệp, Ma Văn Kháng, Chu Lai là những cái tên hiện tại mình đang có trong đầu.

Đọc nhiều truyện ngắn giả tưởng hơn để dịch cho @thenutcrackers2021.

Còn dưới đây là số sách mình đọc từ đầu năm tới giờ:

Tháng 1

1. Khu vườn bí mật (1911) - Frances Hodgson Burnett

2. Mùa thu của cây dương (1997) - Kazumi Yumoto

3. Người minh họa (1951) - Ray Bradbury

4. 1Q84 (2009) - Haruki Murakami

5. Tôi là một con lừa (2013) - Nguyễn Phương Mai

Tháng 2

6. Bản chất của người (2014) - Han Kang

7. Kafka bên bờ biển (2002) - Haruki Murakami

8. Khu vườn mùa hạ (1992) - Kazumi Yumoto

9. Trăm năm cô đơn (1967) - Gabriel Garcia Marquez

10. Cảnh đồi mờ xám (1982) - Kazuo Ishiguro

11. Nhà hàng ở tận cùng vũ trụ (1980) - Douglas Adams

Tháng 4

12. Sáu kẻ bất hảo & Phi vụ bất khả (2015) - Leigh Bardugo

13. Mưu ma chước quỷ & Giang hồ hiểm ác (2016) - Leigh Bardugo

Tháng 5

14. Tử thần sống mãi (2010) - Lưu Từ Hân

15. Miền xanh thẳm (2000) - Trần Hoài Dương

16. Anh chàng Hobbit (1939) - J. R. R. Tolkien

Tháng 6

17. Chúa tể những chiếc nhẫn (1954) - J. R. R. Tolkien

Tháng 7

18. Đồi gió hú (1847) - Emily Bronte

19. Annihilation (2014) - Jeff VanderMeer

20. Killing Commendatore (2017) - Haruki Murakami

21. The Ice Storm (1994) - Rick Moody

22. Hồi ký viết dưới hầm (1864) - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

23. Đom đóm (1995) - Haruki Murakami

24. Tàn tro (2011) - Mike Mullin

25. The Adventures of Tom Bombadil (1962) - J. R. R. Tolkien

26. Shadow and Bone (2012) - Leigh Bardugo

27. Siege and Storm (2013) - Leigh Bardugo

28. Ruin and Rising (2014) - Leigh Bardugo

29. The Language of Thorns (2017) - Leigh Bardugo

Tháng 8

30. Người trộm bóng (2010) - Marc Levy

31. Terminal Boredom (1978) - Izumi Suzuki

Tháng 9

32. The Bumblebee Flies Anyway (1983) - Robert Cormier

Tháng 10

33. Phía Tây không có gì lạ (1929) - Erich Maria Remarque

34. Catfishing on CatNet (2019) - Naomi Kritzer

35. Fire Watch (1985) - Connie Willis

36. Thần thoại Bắc Âu (2017) - Neil Gaiman

37. Peter Pan (1911) - J. M. Barrie

38. Thăm thẳm mùa hè (2018) - Nguyễn Dương Quỳnh

39. Trường ca Achilles (2012) - Madeline Miller

40. Oscar và bà Áo Hồng (2002) - Eric-Emmanuel Schmitt

41. Ngược đường Trường Thi (1939) - Nguyễn Triệu Luật

42. Từ thăm thẳm lãng quên (1996) - Patrick Modiano

43. Ở quán cà phê của tuổi trẻ lạc lối (2011) - Patrick Modiano

44. Dune (1965) - Frank Herbert

Tháng 12

45. The Martian Chronicles (1950) - Ray Bradbury

46. La Belle Sauvage (2017) - Philip Pullman

47. Một thoáng ta rực rỡ ở nhân gian (2019) - Ocean Vuong

48. Kindred (1979) - Octavia E. Butler

49. Impossible Things (1993) - Connie Willis

50. Xứ Phẳng (1884) - Edwin A. Abbott