#Margot Hanson

[bourbonandbisexuals]

Chapters: 9/20 Fandom: The Magicians (TV), The Magicians - Lev Grossman Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Quentin Coldwater/Eliot Waugh, Margo Hanson/Eliot Waugh, Eliot Waugh/Original Character(s) Characters: Quentin Coldwater, Eliot Waugh, Henry Fogg, Margo Hanson, Julia Wicker, 23rd Timeline William "Penny" Adiyodi, William "Penny" Adiyodi, Mayakovsky (The Magicians), Jane Chatwin, Fen (The Magicians), Josh Hoberman Additional Tags: Timeline Shenanigans, Unrequited Love, Boys In Love, queliot, Quentin and Eliot, Peaches and Plums (The Magicians), Brakebills (The Magicians), Brakebills South, Dean Fogg - Freeform, Bisexual Quentin Coldwater, POV Eliot Waugh, Hurt Eliot Waugh, Eliot Waugh & Quentin, Quentin Coldwater Lives, Multiverse, Fillory (The Magicians), Post-Monster (The Magicians), 41st Timeline (The Magicians), Physical Kids Cottage (The Magicians), Queliot Love, Heavy Drinking, Drinking to Cope, Canon Gay Character, Bisexual Male Character, Magic, Dark Magic, Slow Burn, Substance Abuse, Traveler - Freeform, New Traveler, Fae Magic Summary:

Eliot Waugh can't give up on the chance he had with the man he loves. No one really did get proof of concept like that. If Alice could come back from being a niffin, if Penny 23 could hop timelines, if Julia could become a goddess, if every other redemption was possible, then was his own. One way or another he'd find his way back to Q.

[stromuprisahat]

Damaged?

I call it ~custom-made~.

[queerliblib]

Hey there! You've probably gotten asks for reccomendations like this before, but I was wondering if you had any queer detective (or detective-like) book recommendations? Preferably with like, PI stuff and not actually police detectives? if thats possible. because acab. like Sherlock Holmes vibes but. gay(er)

you know, we actually haven’t gotten that one before. acab my friend! but shit I’ll be honest, I’m not a mystery or detective reader at all so this is not my strong suit. howmstever I have solicited other folks on the QLL team to weigh in for this one.

we do have a mysteries list in our Genre Fiction Guide! so I’d absolutely recommend checking that out. for specific titles though:

The Mimicking of Known Successes by Malka Older. a "cozy holmsian murder mystery & sapphic romance set on jupiter"

The Undetectables by Courtney Smyth. “be gay, solve crime, take naps”

Scorched Grace by Margot Douaihy. instead of a cop, the investigator is a chain-smoking, heavily tattooed, queer nun

The Adventures of Isabel Candas Jane Dorsey by features a queer, nameless, amateur detective

we also don’t have these two yet, but one member of our team recommends the Dave Brandstetter Series by Joseph Hanson, “old, cheesy, very fun”, and another the Evander Mills series by Lev A.C. Rosen

[starsdrew]

◟ ⋆ ❛ #𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒓𝒔𝒅𝒓𝒆𝒘.   a  dependent  mumu  for  a  private  group.  dni  if  you're  not  part  of  the  group. studies in ; memories lost & memories found , the burden of carrying the weight of the world on one's shoulders , nightmares that feel more like memories with no explanation & the fear of a sense of darkness looming over the place one calls home .

an  *  means  the  character  is  an  oc.

roster  ;  alex  dupre,  amelia  larson*, andie anderson, anita radcliffe, aubrey ford, austin ames, barney stinson,  brooke  davis,  brooke  maddox, camila estrada*, carly shay, caroline forbes, cassandra morales*, charlotte bryant*,  chrissy  cunningham,  cici  cooper,  clover  ewing, curtis ellis*, dallas "dally" winston, daniela ramos*, declan manning, edith ortez*, emma swan,  eric messer, erin hanson, felix graves*, gabriella  montez,  garfield  logan, ginny crane*, giselle,  gretchen  wieners, gwen kirk,  hanna  marin,  jackie  burkhart, jade west, jae son*,  jake  jagielski, jane nichols, janet nettles, jangmi shin*,  jenna rink, jess  day,  jj  maybank, john bender, kate beckett, kuki sanban,  laurie  wilde*, leah torres*,  leia  organa,  linda belcher, london tipton, lucas  sinclair, lucy field,  lydia  martin,  margot  "maggie"  newhouse*,  melanie smooter, melinda gordon, mike  wheeler,  molly bishop*, monica  geller,  nathan  scott,  philip  shea,  piper  halliwell,  riven, ron stoppable, rusty borgens,  sally  "thorn"  mcknight, sam manson, sandy olsson,  sarah  cameron, scott hynes*,  scott  mccall, shane gray, shelly hall, snow white,  sophie kellerman*, spencer reid, stella  of  solaria, suzie bingham,  tara  carpenter,  tatum  riley, tina simmons ( st ),  temperance  brennan,  thackery  binx, tramp ( howie ), tree gelbman, trish jarvis,  wendy  darling, wylan  hendricks & ziggy berman.

[cosmiclvex]

sif arisdóttir ;

Think like a queen -  a queen is not afraid to fail. Failure isanother stepping stone to greatness.

➝ pinterest ➝ playlist

overview

Full Name: Serafina Arisdóttir Aliases/Nicknames: Sif Occupation: Goddess of War, liaison between the realms Alliance: the Avengers, Asgard Strengths/Skills:  skilled warrior, superhuman strength, agility, and regeneration Date of Birth: May 29th Age: 1060, physically around 30 Zodiac: Gemini Sexuality: heterosexual Pronouns: she/her Height: 5'3 Nationality/Species: Asgardian Languages Spoken: English, Asgardian Faceclaim: Margot Robbie ( x ) Theme Song: Kings & Queens (Ava Max) Color: cherry blossom pink ( x ) Hogwarts House: Gryffindor  Mental Ailments:  Birthplace: Asgard Current Residence: New York City, goes back and forth to Asgard Education: she did all of her education on Asgard

relationships

Status:  Siblings: Parents: Ari Hanson and and Birgit Isakdóttir

➝ Her father is a member of King Odin's court and, due to his stricter, more traditional ideals, her relationship with him is off and on. Her mother is one of the queen's ladies and she tends to be closer to her.

Best Friend: Klara Arnesdòttir, Loki Odinson Pets: Aurora, Tawny owl ( x ) Other notable relationships: Eisa Hill, Lovisa and Ella Hill (nieces)

backstory

Sif grew up on Asgard. She was the product of a failed relationship between her parents and though they were never together, she grew up around the palace due to both of their roles. Her natural talents were never taken seriously by her father due to her being a woman, though being close to the king's sons, she became an appreciated Asgardian warrior despite that. After Thor's banishment and Loki's assumed death, she left Asgard with Klara and relocated to New York City with her, not wishing to remain in Asgard. She's remained in NYC, but occasionally does go back to Asgard, despite her ill feelings towards the King.

[kfkdkdkdl]

muses roster. ( muses listed below! ) updated 7/2/24.

• ABIGAEL JAMESON CAINE. : Charmed reboot. (2018.) FACE CLAIM : Poppy Drayton. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• ALICIA CLARK. : Fear the Walking Dead, FACE CLAIM : Alicia Debnam-Carey. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• ATOM EVE. : Invincible, FACE CLAIM : Katherine McNamara. 18+. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• ANNIE JANUARY. : the boys. FACE CLAIM : Erin Moriarty. 24. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• BARBIE ROBERTS. : dreamhouse adventures, FACE CLAIM : Margot Robbie, Halston Sage. 22-28. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• BEA MESSINA. : Anyone But You, FACE CLAIM : Sydney Sweeney. 25+. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based. written as an original character.

• BELLA GOTH. : the sims, FACE CLAIM : Adria Arjona. Jenna Ortega. 18-32. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based. written as an original character for multiple universes.

• BETTY COOPER. : riverdale, FACE CLAIM : Lili Reinhart. 18-25. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• BONNIE BENNETT. : the vampire diaries, FACE CLAIM : Kat Graham. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• CASSIE HOWARD. : euphoria, FACE CLAIM : Sydney Sweeney. 18-25. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• CATE DUNLAP. : Gen V, FACE CLAIM : Maddie Phillips. 18. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• CLAWDEEN WOLF. : Monster High, FACE CLAIM : Ryan Destiny. 18-25. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• CLOE SANTON. : Bratz, FACE CLAIM : Sabrina Carpenter. 18-25. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• DAPHNE BRIDGERTON. : Bridgerton, FACE CLAIM : Phoebe Dynevor. 18-25. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• DAVINA CLAIRE. : the vampire diaries universe, FACE CLAIM : Danielle Campbell. 18-30. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• FIONA GALLAGHER. : shameless, FACE CLAIM : Emmy Rossum. 21-30. she/her. bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• HOPE MIKAELSON. : the vampire diaries universe, FACE CLAIM : Danielle Rose Russell. 18-24. she/her. bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• JOSIE SALTZMAN. : the vampire diaries universe, FACE CLAIM : Kaylee Kaneshiro. 18-25. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• KIDAGAKASH NEDAKH. : Atlantis the Lost Empire, FACE CLAIM : Ella Balinska. 18-30. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• LUCY MACLEAN. : Fallout, FACE CLAIM : Elle Purnell. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• MACY VAUGHN. : Charmed reboot (2018.), FACE CLAIM : Madeleine Mantock. she/her. bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• MAL BERTHA. : Descendants, FACE CLAIM : Dove Cameron. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• MARIE MOREAU. : GEN V, FACE CLAIM : Jaz Sinclair. 18. she/her. Bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• MARGO HANSON. : the magicians, FACE CLAIM : Summer Bishil. 20-25. she/her. bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• NANCY DREW. : Nancy drew, FACE CLAIM : Kennedy McMann. 18-30. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• PERSEPHONE. : Greek mythology, FACE CLAIM : tba. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• PIPER HALLIWELL. : Charmed, FACE CLAIM : Holly Marie Combs. she/her. heterosexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• PRUE HALLIWELL. : Charmed, FACE CLAIM : Shannon Doherty. she/her. heterosexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• POPCLAW. : The Boys, FACE CLAIM : Conor Leslie. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• SABRINA SPELLMAN. : chilling adventures of sabrina, FACE CLAIM : Kiernan Shipka. 18-25. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• SAM CARPENTER. : scream, FACE CLAIM : Melissa Barrera. 28. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• SARAH CAMERON. : outerbanks, FACE CLAIM : Madelyn Cline. 18-25. she/her. pansexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• SNOW WHITE. : Once Upon a Time, FACE CLAIM : Adelaide Kane. 28. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• TARA CARPENTER. : scream, FACE CLAIM : Jenna Ortega. 18. she/her. straight. canon and canon divergent based.

• VERONICA LODGE. : Riverdale, FACE CLAIM : Camila Mendes. 25. she/her. bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• WYNONNA EARP. : Wynonna Earp, FACE CLAIM : Melanie Scrofano. 27. she/her. bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

• YENNEFER OF VENGERBERG. : the witcher, FACE CLAIM : Anya Chalotra. she/her. bisexual. canon and canon divergent based.

[lupus-praetor]

Most of my life I’ve been in and out of hospitals, and suicidal thoughts, and notes, and a lot of notes, attempts, and meds and therapy.  And then I found Brakebills and all that went away.  Or I thought, but did I do something brave to save my friends or did I finally find a way to kill myself?

-Quentin Coldwater

[ohwellokcomputer]

Yo Supernatural fandom I’m really happy for you I’m gonna let you finish but The Magicians had some of the best Bury Your Gays trope OF ALL TIME

[probablyunoriginalrpgideas]

shoutout to The Magicians for making lycanthropy an STD

[postguiltypleasures]

The Magicians Finale - (over a year later)

I didn’t watch the first season of The Magicians as it aired in late 2015- 2016. I was already watching the roughly estimated maximum amount of television I could watch. I didn’t have the time to make for a new show. It debuted at the same time as The Expanse, and that looks like the “better” show. But I would soon realize that I liked The Magicians more.

While I was watching the first season, I attempted to go back and look at the writing from while it aired. This experience profoundly influenced how I felt about the controversial ending to the fourth season, and the fall out in the fandom.

The fourth season ended after Quentin Coldwater, ostensibly the show’s central character, dying while saving the world. In his orientation to the afterlife there is discussion about was this actually heroic or was it a manifestation of his depression and suicidal identification. The show doesn’t answer this directly, it just has Quentin experience how his friends are mourning him and feel how loved it was. People felt really betrayed by this. It was considered deeply irresponsible. I have already written about it here. In the aftermath, part of me thought back to those recaps and reviews of the first season and wondered “how did we get to place where we could feel so betrayed?” Because reviews from the then seemed certain that it was more problematic than it was. Take for example this recap from Vulture season one, where the writer, Hillary Kelly, wonders who this show is actually for? Or this AV Club recap of the first season finale where the writer Lisa Weidenfeld erroneously thinks that The Beast and Julia, both rape victims, are being set up to be the show’s main villains? And that Eliot’s forced marriage to Fen was potentially a straight washing.

The fact that the worries Weidenfeld put into writing didn’t pan out is probably part of the reason that the show’s reputation improved. It would also have characters within the show call out others’s sexism, racism, etc. which could feel like something of a corrective to a lot of pop culture out there. You might also have noticed that in Weidenfeld’s recap she makes a comparison between Julia and Willow-gets-addicted-to-magic-plot season six of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Ads for the first season even looked like they wanted viewers to draw that comparison.

I remember from around the second season coming across a several articles declaring The Magicians a worthy successor to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Emily VanDerWerff discussed it in her review of the second season. As one point she makes the statement that “The Magicians isn’t as politically subversive as Buffy”, and I’m going to go out on a limb and say that might be less true than she assumed at the time. In an era of backlash against Buffy’s creator Joss Whedon, The Magicians could be comparatively more empathetic to its characters and had some pretty subversive plot points. But I haven’t watched an episode of Buffy since the early aughts, or The Magicians since it wrapped.

(VanDerWerff’s writing heavily influenced my own thoughts about thee show, which I previously wrote about here. I am also including links to her old podcast, I Think You’re Interesting and the interviews she did with novelist Lev Grossman and show runner Sera Gamble, though I should note those are from before she transitioned and under her dead name. Also I wanted to include that she included it in her best television of the 2010s article.)

In the articles I just linked to, you might also notice frequent comparisons to Game of Thrones. While the comparisons focus on the the vast difference in budget and how ubiquitous GoT was at the same time The Magicians aired, it is worth noting that both series are postmodern, deconstruction takes on their respective sub-genres. While GoT could use that to point out why surprising and awful things happened to their characters, The Magicians mostly had fewer horrible things happen to its characters. But the comparison might have influenced how post Quentin’s death people made a litany of those events/plot points to prove that any faith in the show was misplaced and it was a betrayer better left behind.

The after the fourth season I pulled back from discussing The Magicians online. I just couldn’t deal with other people’s anger. I was never really active in the fandom, but I did write about it here more than probably any other series since I started this blog. This may have given me a false impression about how the media ended up covering the show. While writing this I was planning an arc that would go something like, “at the start of the fourth season the media loved it and articles this one by Kathryn Van Arendonk at Vulture came out saying that they regretted stopping the show part way through season one. But the fan backlash to the finale was so harsh that even the show’s frequent champion, Emily VanDerWerff didn’t write about it at all for the fifth season.” She did write a positive review at the start of the fifth season. I even read it at the time. She didn’t write about the finale, and that disappointed me, which may have led me to mis-remember the earlier. (I did remember this round table discussion about the ascendency of fandom in which she discusses the show’s situation, and it might have also contributed to my misremembering.)

The AVClub had Weidenfeld write a review of the first episodes, but she no longer recapped the episodes as she had for the first four seasons. (Her review is generally about what is missing from the Quentin-less series) While preparing to write this I found out that Decider’s Anna Menta recapped through the third episode, despite being amongst those who felt betrayed by Quentin’s death and the lack of opportunity for Quentin and Eliot to explore their romance.

(I just want to take a moment to say a couple of things here. Firstly, I really believed the show runners when they said Quentin was dead and not coming back so I didn’t see the first couple of episodes as a tease that he might come back. When my grandfather who I was very close to died I would regularly have dreams that his death was incorrectly called and he’d come back. I saw those episodes as a version of that.)

This has been show I’ve written about the most in recent years. But as I was mostly ignoring both professional and fan writing about it for its final season, I only really got around to reading these now. I’m going to start with this post-finale interview with the producers, Sera Gamble, Henry Alonso Myers John McNamara, written by Vlada Gelman at TVLine. It isn’t really a lot of new information. It’s interesting to read about how being renewed or not affected their editing decisions in post production. They seem happy with it. At Entertainment Weekly, Chancellor Agard interviewed Gamble and McNamara. There is more talk about the connection between the final season of the tv show and the finale book of the trilogy, The Magicians Land. (As a viewer I was always pleased when they somehow brought in details from the books late in the season, whether it was big things for the arc like the World Seed page or details that only mattered for an episode like whales being magicians.) In the interview, they also talk about some of the wildest plot points. Gamble and McNamara also gave and interview to Adam Chitwood at Collider. Chitwood is the most enthusiastic about the show. The interview also confirms for those who want to know that Jason Ralph asked to be let go from the show, and that Julia’s pregnancy probably wouldn’t have happened if her actress Stella Maeve hadn’t gotten pregnant. Finally, in an I can’t believe I missed it example, at the New York Times, Jennifer Vineyard also interviewed Gamble and McNamera. This one starts pretty politically with how trying to save the citizens of Fillory unintentionally works as a metaphor for quarantine and how we don’t get through difficult periods of times because of individuals, instead it’s more of a collective. Then it somehow turns into a a thing about being in a mutual admiration society with William Shatner. I truly didn’t see this one coming.

So now I have to get to the actual reviews of the finale, with the caveat that I haven’t watched any of the series in over a year so it’s definitely not fresh in my mind. Over at The AVClub, re-capper Weidfeld is mostly mournful for the series, but also makes the point that when the characters grew up and stopped being so hurtful towards each other and themselves, it was less compelling. It kind of ties back to my “how did people think this was a show that wouldn’t hurt them” question from earlier, but with less interest in fans. I don’t remember if my feelings as it went on would have agreed with it, but it is partially why it was in good place to end the series. At io9, Beth Elderkin seemed to think the finale was rushed and the show deserved better. I don’t remember if I felt like the episode was rushed. But as I read through her recap, I realize that I’ve also forgotten a lot of the episode’s plot points. Over at The Mary Sue, Jessica Mason wrote a positive review highlighting aspects that pleased her as a fan who wanted good things for these characters.

Shortly after the finale Sarah Stankorb at The Atlantic recommend the series to COVID bound bingers. I was shocked to see this. I didn’t think anyone would be recommending it post season for backlash. (Earlier on an episode of Our Opinions Are Correct the hosts walked back what could have been a recommendation for the series, which disappointed me. I don’t remember which episode this was.) It’s a lovely overview of the whole series. I especially like how Stackorb addresses the way the show dealt with Julia’s assault (greatly improving on the source material). It made me wonder if the show will have a legacy, one worthy of celebration. I don’t hope for a revival, but if I had time to re-watch it, I might. And I am happy to read comicbooks building on the source material.

[hardwiredweird]

Some stuff from a while back.

[the100-shit]

"so destiny is... it's bullshit."

Here's to you, Q.

[girlwithlandscape]

The Magicians - “Don't Get Me Wrong”

“Oh my god, I’m tripping on lizard.”

I LOVE THIS WILD SHOW. 

[zopsera]

Fuck me up the Magicians teaser is up and it's too soon. My heart is still broken from last season.

[animefreaksince2001]

Since SDCC is tomorrow, I have one thing to say. Magicians fans who are going and have been hurt and traumatized by the finale (or if they even got you fucked up in some way), I want you to do something. If they don’t allow fan questions, make a sign. Make a chant, idk. If they do allow fan questions (oh honey), I want you to be passive aggressive at the littlest and absolutely give them a piece of your mind at the most. Keep letting them know that the anger and hurt still burns deep. We will not forget and forgive.

[c-crane]

If Quentin, Eliot, Margo, or Josh are dead I’m going to lose my shit...