#quentin coldwater deserved better

[vooruitmariek]

had enough of heartbreak and pain

[trueloveandotherscificoncepts]

posts ghostwritten by Quentin Makepeace Coldwater

im neurodivergent so i suck dick for the mouthfeel

[kingandqueenofgoodtime]

The more I watch and the more I know (because I know a lot of things I haven't watched yet because I love spoilers), the more I wonder how on Earth is it possible to hate your own character as much as the writers of SyFy's The Magicians hate Eliot Waugh.

Like, don't get me wrong, they acted shitty towards lots of their characters and don't even get me started on what they did to Quentin, but Eliot? My precious baby boy Eliot who has grown so much over the course of the show (and I'm starting to suspect he somehow did it without much help from the writers, because how can someone write his growth and then whatever the hell 4x13 and S5 are, in terms of what they did to Eliot, is beside me), who has such a big heart in spite of what he tried to pretend to be like initially, who cares so much about all of his friends and not only his friends but people he meets and Fillory's people and Fillory itself and who bonds ridiculously fast... like, really fast, who is so brave and kind and smart and creative and responsible and mature (once again, in spite of what he looks like), who realy was meant to be a king because he's a natural at it and who was a good damn king and bumping him to eventually make Margo High King is... just another can of worms I don't want to open right now (to classify: I love Margo to bits, I just don't think that her becoming High King was really necessary, she was a badass High Queen and she could show patriarchy what's what just fine while being the High Queen and, maybe unpopular opinion here but, making her the High King actually was detrimental to her fight against patriarchy... but, as I said, another can, so we are moving on for now), who had a lot of shitty things happen to him and who somehow still found joy and beauty in life and felt everything very deeply and loved with his whole heart even when he was afraid of that love and... and... I can go on and on about Eliot and all the ways he deserved much better than what the writers did to him, but the point is:

Eliot Waugh deserves so much better than what The Magicians' writers did to him.

So. Much. Better.

Like, I don't have the words to describe just how much better he deserves.

And instead of everything good he deserves, instead of fucking happiness and love and peace but maybe not so much quiet, the writers took away all that which he held most dear – literally, all, Quentin, Margo, his friends, Fillory, you name it, they took it all away – rendered his characters growth useless and basically just crushed him.

So, I'm circling back to my initial question that cannot be answered:

how on Earth is it possible to hate your own character as much as the writers of SyFy's The Magicians hate Eliot Waugh?

[toxicrayofsunshine]

I will never forgive The Magicians for that Season 4 finale! Quentin and Eliot deserved to be together! Hell, they could've started a poly relationship with Alice! I'm honestly so sick of the "bury your gays" trope. Especially with Quentin being a rare example of a bisexual man! I literally just finished the episode and have been flat out sobbing for an embarrassing amount of time. I love the show, but season 5 may not get watched for a while. I know everyone's endings (yeah, I'm one of those), and they do Eliot even dirtier by separating him and Margo. Nope... just nope... and I know I'm rambling, but I haven't cried like this over a show in a hot minute.

[coldwater-pictures]

Queliet/ Quinton and Elliot edit Achilles come down

[fixated-on-something]

Guess what I’m trying to learn by ear on guitar…

Tear time :)

[a-liv-e]

so I napped for five hours and then I had a sex dream abt matt berry and then I cried about a tv show that ended 5 years ago. Follicular phase goes crazy

[riotrose8]

after having a mental breakdown about what magicians did and realizing the fuck up it caused in my mental health (I related to Quentin in too many ways for me to be safe in that ending). I needed this.

He winds his way around the unnecessarily expensive end table to open the door. He stubs his toe anyway – fuck Kady and her pointy aesthetic – so the door is halfway open before he sees who has managed to ping so weirdly off the wards that he himself set up.

“Eliot,” breathes Quentin in the doorway, eyes wide with urgency, and then both the bottle and glass Eliot has expertly balanced in his hand shatter immediately on the hardwood floor.

the way i need to wake by @aspiringtoeloquence

[insufferableprotagonistpoll]

Round 2

Propaganda why Marinette Dupain-Cheng is insufferable:

"shes annoyinng anf shes a stalker"

"I love fanon miraculous but by god she has got to stop obsessively stalking her crush and generally making a ton of other terrible decisions. I’d submit Adrien too but he’s more of a deuteragonist"

"I started the show, watched one episode, and never tried again. I simply do not vibe with her."

"I get she has social anxiety but the way she goes about stalking Adrien is kind of the worst like she even has creep shots of him hanging in her room? That’s weird. I think Adrien’s going through enough without having to deal with the main character being his stalker lol. I know they’re (spoilers) at this point but in the beginning it was so sus"

"In the newest season, Marinette hides the fact that Hawkmoth was Adrien’s dad. This leads to the bastard getting a statue and honored as a hero after his death. Adrien now never gets to know the fact that his abusive and neglectful father was the one trying to kill him and is instead proud of him."

"Her crush on Adrien is like a black hole for her character. Things she’s done because of it:

1) stolen property

2) ruined dates

3) humiliated other characters

4) has a chart of Adrien’s daily schedule for the next year in her room (this is stalking)

5) broke into his room and sniffed his pillow (also a crime)

6) sniffed, took the hair from, and tried to kiss what she thought was a wax statue of Adrien

7) convinced her parents to let her go to China. Why? Not because she wants to connect with her mother’s heritage, not even because she’s a budding fashion designer and Shanghai is considered a fashion hotspot. It’s because Adrien was there."

"She easily gets away with bad, stalkerish behavior, it always feels like she can ‘do no wrong’ unless the show wants us to pity her, and the show writers want us to think she is a quirky and socially awkward girl when throughout the series we see her be friends with basically everyone in Paris with many connections to high up places."

"Listen, if Adrien's here, she needs to be too. I like her, but from the odd stalker-ish behaviour, to straight up lying to adrien and telling him that his abusive father was actually a 'very good person, a hero even and not the main villain of the series I promise', there's no way she doesn't deserve to be in the polls."

Propaganda why Quentin Coldwater is insufferable:

"Quentin is the epitome of self important, entitled young men who think it's okay for their actions to have consequences for other people because he's smarter than them. He's constantly letting his friends (especially the female characters!) take the brunt of his bad decisions (end of the first book, I'm looking at you.) Every time something he does comes back to bite home he goes all "surprised Pikachu face". And he's nowhere near as smart as he thinks he is. Ugh."

"I hated this man so much I stopped reading an otherwise engaging book. I don't even remember all the reasons I just found him so infuriating that my hate for him survived multiple years."

"Affluent white kid, wants desperately to be in Narnia as his only ambition in life, stares at the boobs of nearby women, thinks people without magic are living empty lives even though he's desperately depressed and rudderless with it, cheats on his girlfriend for literally no reason. Also, incel vibes."

"He's a very Depressed White Sadboy about everything. He's got a very asshole attitude towards women especially, and tbh I don't really feel like it gets better, not even by book 3 (the way he "rescues" Alice and forces her to be human again by trying to like. Maker her love him. Was annoying and skeevy. This reddit thread sums it up well: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/s/HlZU4Rb0UG"

[kingandqueenofgoodtime]

What is up with The Magicians' writers making these sort of guardian figures literally no one asked for tell canonically depressed and suicidal people things would be better if they died young?

Penny to Quentin in S4 finale and Jane to Eliot in S5.

Like, don't they get what a terrible message that is? And they go and do it twice? With the two most beloved characters? What the actual fuck?!

[magiciansfanworksextravaganza]

Curses Foiled Again (19004 words) by PhantomNightjar Chapters: 4/? Fandom: The Magicians (TV), The Magicians - Lev Grossman Rating: Explicit Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Quentin Coldwater/Eliot Waugh, Quentin Coldwater & Margo Hanson & Eliot Waugh, Quentin Coldwater & Julia Wicker, Eliot Waugh/Original Male Character(s) Characters: Quentin Coldwater, Eliot Waugh, Margo Hanson, Todd (The Magicians), Julia Wicker, James (The Magicians), Original Male Character(s), Bacchus (The Magicians), Josh Hoberman, William "Penny" Adiyodi, Martin Chatwin | The Beast, Ted Coldwater Additional Tags: Eliot Waugh's Canonically Huge Dick, Quentin Coldwater's Oral Fixation, Episode: s01e02 The Source of Magic, Curses, Season 1 Reboot, Telepathic Bondage, Anal Sex, Drunken Flirting, Revenge, Canon-Typical Violence, Eliot Waugh Deserved Better, excessive amounts of banter, Hallucinations, Dirty Thoughts, Implied/Referenced Abuse, Mutual Pining, Angst with a Happy Ending Summary:

A (sort-of) ex's revenge plot against Eliot has far-reaching unintended consequences.

Or: I wanted to write a one-shot PWP where Quentin and Eliot hook up at a party at the Cottage, but instead I ended up plotting out a full-on season 1 reboot where Quentin doesn't act like a bitter incel, and Julia finds a much less horrifying solution for defeating the Beast.

[shipsandmyths]

Hey OP I’ve just got one question: How. Dare. You.

[clarajohnson]

the magicians s2e6

quentin coldwater you are so goddamn embarrassing i love you

once again alice is such a fun fucking character. she liked when q did pretend cirque du soleil ????? i could cry !!!!

margo's outfits are improving but i'm looking forward to when we get past the amazon corsets

the only thing better than "no offense q but you're a little crazy right now" is him blithely acknowledging it, "maybe, yeah"

my children loved me i was a good mother!

NIFFIN ALICE I LOVE YOU FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

i couldn't possibly make fun of q for trying to summon niffin alice like sorry you would do it too for alice quinn

best bitches !!!! they could've parented a demon baby together it would've been okay

okay i think he actually would've liked a unicorn milk latte. or have requested one in earnest at least.

like i need more people calling me daddy!

something hale and summer do is they occasionally adopt the same affect, the same intonation, it's such a subtle thing and it doesn't come up all the time but it so clearly telegraphs that these people are completely tethered to each other

"i know my daughter she's trying to protect us" oh PLEASE

ughhhhhhhhhhh i forgot about loria. oh my god fuck your parents dude. BUT ELIOT DON'T !!!!!

cin-ci-nahhh-tee.

SCREAM at the virgin queen margo

god fillory is so much fun like it's total bullshit all the time but it's also SO fun i enjoy that half of the plot so much

what's fen's title? do we know? queen consort? she has to have a title right

"if ess was a girl and you found pussy you know interesting in a sometimes you like thai food kind of way"

not to do this because i do this constantly all the time but margo hanson is my best friend i'm in love with her

don't worry the thing will not be born AUGH once again i feel like this is such a randomly traumatic plot to force on julia

niffin alice has terrible posture. somebody get her a better niffin bra!

q thinks people's love for him is so conditional every time it comes up it makes me so sad. also i would like for him to get a better hair routine i know grief and everything but dude it's stringy.

i remember when i first watched this episode i wanted daniel to have died from falling off the ladder he doesn't even deserve all that i was just mad at him for being a shit dad

ess is hot but not hot enough to act like this. you're a virgin to me sweetheart? i think margo should be allowed to kill him.

actually margo should be allowed to kill me if she wants to

queliot obviously first most tragic romance in the magicians but fen/baylor is possibly ranked second when you think about it. wait kady/penny. okay fen/baylor is top three.

JESUS CHRIST I FORGOT ABOUT DANA'S WHOLE THING

even i studied and i'm dead!

it's so sweet that she has dreams about forgetting to study. sorry i feel like somebody applauding disney for having a gay character but i genuinely like the female characters in this show so much. they get to do all kinds of shit! and feel shit!

yeah honestly the reynard plot occasionally veers into an almost anti-choice rhetoric, i could have done without like 90% of this plot

i love asking questions that have a 50/50 shot of being resolved in this episode but do we ever find out who dana's son is

once again! best bitches!

you guys have been so royally fucked with! sometimes the florida jumps out of him

"she never figured out how to be a woman" is such an insane thing to say. the magicians should've dug into motherhood more. haha. wrote a thesis on motherhood voice.

I FORGOT ALICE WAS IN THE TATTOO OH MY GODDDDDDD

cripes reynard is so fucking scary

benedict you are an angel

"we're gonna put our jimmy choos so far up your ass you're gonna taste next season" as a declaration of war is unbelievably good

[nellie-elizabeth]

Writing Patterns

Rules: Share the opening of your last ten published works or as many as you are able to see if there are any patterns!

I was tagged by @ajna-eye-cogitations, thank you!!

[A note that when I picked the last 10 published, I skipped over all my short one-shot collection fics that I've been posting for years now, since those are cases where each chapter is its own individual story. So I just stuck to stuff outside of that!]

where the real road lies

Grief doesn’t feel like anything. Or— well, it feels like a lot of things, but nothing you can pin down. Maybe it’s one of those human experiences that can only be talked about in metaphor. Like, it feels as if my heart’s being ripped out of my chest, or it feels as if someone’s scooped me out, left me hollow, plunged my very soul into darkness. It feels as if, as if, as if.

(can't) get back again

It’s not a decision either of them is actually making. That’s what Michael tells himself when it happens for the first time, that he didn’t decide and Alex didn’t decide and in fact fighting the inevitability of it would only be adding more pain into a world already saturated with suffering.

small town halloween night

Maria gets home before Rosa, on Halloween night. They’d both picked up shifts for their parents, Maria at the bar and Rosa at the diner. It’s not the worst shift Maria’s ever worked, but she can’t help but feel a little melancholy on her drive home. A whole night of watching people her age, people she went to school with, cluster together with their friends, doing cheap shots... A year ago, that had been her. A year ago, dressed up with her skin out, doing shots in her friends’ kitchen, laughing at the movies and getting rice in her hair.

tell me that we belong together

September 2011 Michael always gets a little nostalgic about Roswell right before leaving it behind for a while. School’s starting in just a couple days, and that means saying a temporary goodbye to mornings like this one, lounging in their favorite booth at the Crashdown, the sounds of Arturo making their breakfasts carrying through from the kitchen, jukebox playing some song Michael only recognizes because he’s heard it playing in this very diner countless times over the years. They have their local haunts in Albuquerque by now, but he’ll always be a hometown boy at heart, and for better or worse, this is his hometown.

a work of fine art

Quentin Coldwater has fuzzy arms. It’s one of the first things Eliot notices about him as his volunteer life model settles down on the couch, crossing said arms across his chest in a nervous, nearly defensive move. It’s like he’s trying to fold his body into an origami box so all the outside parts will be on the inside, safe from Eliot’s eyes. But looking at the man in front of him is rather the point, so Eliot looks his fill, careful to catalogue every detail, despite how he can practically feel the waves of energy coming off of Quentin’s body, the frozen full-body cringe as he attempts to deflect the attention. Eliot indulges in it, keeping his face carefully neutral instead of giving in to the smile building up inside of him at the rather lovely display. Squirmy, awkward, cute naked boy, and Eliot gets to stare at him for a full uninterrupted evening. It must be his birthday.

tales from a bookshop

The bookshop has always been something of a sacred space for Crowley. Scratch that— not sacred, certainly not sacred, who the hell said sacred, honestly. And no more is it Hell’s cosmic opposite, profane, it’s only that— well, blast it, it’s only that A.Z. Fell & Co. booksellers has always been an important place for Crowley. Significant. Precious, maybe, though even the taste of such a word makes him want to scream profanities at someone who doesn’t deserve it, just to get the tickle out the back of his throat.

Shelter

The first thing Quentin did most mornings was locate the most excitable, energy-filled dog he could find in the kennels, and take the little terror out for a brisk, damp jog. Damp, because the Seattle air always seemed to be damp no matter the temperature. Brisk, because Quentin was not a jogger and a solid twenty minutes was usually as much as the lucky canine in question was likely to get out of him. He did this because he was usually the first person to arrive at work and he didn’t feel like making awkward chit chat with the night shift people, and also because it seemed a kindness: by the time his bosses Margo and Fen had shown up after their leisurely morning coffee routine, the most excitable of their furry residents had already had some of their energy burned away by Quentin’s efforts.

under the desert sky

Beyond basic necessities, the items Alex brings with him on their trek to the Grand Canyon are a fully stocked iPod, car charger, and a stitch-bound notebook slipped into the front pocket of his backpack. Michael brings his restored Nikon FM 35mm and six rolls of film.

the lengths that i would go to

Summer 2010 It’s early, so early that the sun isn’t up, the air around him still and quiet. Alex is awake, and for a second he doesn’t quite know why. His body is conditioned to wake early each morning, but this is something different. There’s a strange awareness, where paranoia meets familiarity. Alex knows, as consciousness filters into his brain, that there’s someone else in the room with him. He also knows, without having to open his eyes, that there is no threat, because it’s Michael. The bed shifts, and Alex blinks into the dim light, looking down to see Michael crawling up the bed towards him.

it might change my memory

June 2022 It’s Bonnie, of all people, who calms everybody down. Not Isobel with her power to mentally soothe, or Dallas with his preacher training and inviting sensibility. Not Liz with her practical, scientific mindset, or Michael, the one person in this room who theoretically has all the pieces of the puzzle and actually has a chance of knowing what the fuck is going on. It’s Bonnie who cuts through the excited, confused, unintelligible babble and says, quite loudly for such a small woman: “Okay! Seems like we have a situation! Everyone should sit down. I’ll make tea.”

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Wow, okay, this was really interesting to see! It looks like a very common approach for me is "short, catchy sentence" followed by longer paragraph expounding on it. Like -- "Grief doesn’t feel like anything." or "The bookshop has always been something of a sacred space for Crowley." or "Quentin Coldwater has fuzzy arms." This is true across all the fandoms I write in!

It's crazy that only one of these ten examples has any dialogue in it at all, because I tend to think my dialogue skills are really sharp! I should start more stories off with it lol.

Tagging whoever writes and wants to participate! @portraitofemmy, @prettyboysdontlookatexplosions, @awildwickedslip, @spiders-hth-is-an-outlier, @r-dtoblack

[sadlittlenerdking]

Repeat after me: Quentin Coldwater deserved better than a suicide fantasy as the end of his story.

[riotrose8]

Just considering that this could happen to me again is terrifying, these men made me so happy. I just couldn't

Yeah the "I really really hope David Jenkins isn't just pulling the same crap than the showrunners of The Magicians did back then"-post I wrote yesterday made me go through my the magicians tag just now.

It doesn't hurt that bad anymore. But it still makes me sad. And, surprisingly, still angry!

David Jenkins, I hope you are different. I choose to believe in you, like I chose to believe in them five years ago. Please don't make me the same idiot who has just been fooled twice. Please don't let us down!