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Many people in the fandom suspect that Chloe has ASD
It may sound crazy at first, but when we analyze Chloe's actions individually (including the way she cuddles with her teddy bear), it makes sense and what Thomas has done to her (And the Twitter fandom) makes it even worse than before, but she's white and rich, so ASD isn't an argument, right, ableists in the fandom?
Many people with ASD have trouble understanding what is morally acceptable (Which may explain her racism in certain episodes, but Thomas fucked it up, so yeah), and because of having the mother and father she has (Who is known to have been victim, isn't it, Thomas?), plus many things that "Defenders of Justice" do not consider violence, from the perspective of someone with ASD, that's what it is, and it's terrible
Yes, I am a person on the autism spectrum and the standards in the fandom piss me off, we are supposed to love Marinette because she is neurodivergent, but we are supposed to bash Chloe because she is neurodiverse
But if Thomas and the assholes on Twitter said something, it must be true, right?
Yes, people with ASD can do a lot of nasty things (Because when parents are nasty, like in this case, it's unfortunate, but for children with ASD it's an abstraction to understand a different perspective, Chloe needs help, not what the toxic fandom would like and this is terrifying because they want the suffering of a person with ASD for their own satisfaction)
The fact that Chloe has ASD may explain her stubbornness, because people with ASD are often stubborn and when you tell them to do something, they don't always do it (Rebelliousness is in the blood)
However, people with ASD can be submissive, this can be seen when Chloe interacts with her mother, unfortunately, close people are more terrifying because you have some bond with them
So congratulations fandom for championing one neurodivergent character at the expense of another neurodiverse character, you don't look ableist at all, no, not at all
#chloe bourgeois#asd#autism#autistic#autism spectrum disorder#miracolous ladybug#ml fandom salt#ml fandom#miraculous fandom#miraculous ladybug au#miraculous#twitter#ableism#cartoon#cartoonist#thomas astruc#anti thomas astruc
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What does Adrien have to apologize for in Origins? Lol he LITERALLY didn't do it. He tried getting the gum off and Marinette jumped to conclusion because of his association with Chloé and accused him of it. That's what he clarified in the end.
I’ve been thinking about how Adrien is generally not an empathetic person. He’s well mannered and generally nice but I’ve yet to see him share a moment of vulnerability with someone that wasn’t about himself. There were the times he’s given Ladybug pep talks but he never seems legitimately concerned for her emotional well-being, simply smiling after she hugs him instead of showing any interest in why she was feeling the way she was and how he could help her. He literally felt the pressure she’s under every day and didn’t feel any need to change himself to help alleviate it. Of course, a large portion of empathy is learned and he hasn’t had great examples and sometimes people just don’t have the energy to genuinely care and all that but the point remains: Adrien rarely thinks about other people’s feelings. Despite how it sounds, this isn’t a criticism of him, just an observation.
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Stop writing fics about Lila pretending to be disabled. It's literally just ableism.
[Plain text: "Stop writing fics about Lila pretending to be disabled. It's literally just ableism." End plain text.]
Copying an pasting this section from the original post because I'm so tired of this fandom's ableism.
It doesn’t matter if the show was ableist first. You have the personal responsibility to not be ableist. You have the personal responsibility to correct what the show does wrong.
Do not demonize the class for accommodating a disabled student.
Do not perpetuate the myth that “bad evil” people are out there pretending to be disabled to get attention.
Do not pretend like Marinette liking Lila has any bearing on whether or not Lila is disabled.
You want to fix this mess? Then either rewrite it so Lila never said she had hearing problems, or have her actually be disabled, with the moral being that not liking someone doesn’t magically mean they’re lying about being disabled, and that insisting that someone is lying about their disability just because you don’t like them makes you ableist and an asshole!
I’m sick of this! I’m sick of the show and the fandom demonizing disabled people! I’m sick of it!
Stop being ableist and stop spreading ableist bullshit!
By fucking continuing to write about Lila pretending to be disabled because she's a Bad Person Who Wants Attention™ you are literally being ableist.
You are literally perpetuating the myth that disabled people are just faking it for attention. That is literally what you are fucking doing when you keep rehashing "oh Lila pretended to be disabled because she's an evil liar!!" bullshit.
I don't fucking care.
It is literally fucking ableist to accuse people of faking their disabilities to get attention.
It is fucking ableist to accuse people of getting accommodations "to get attention" or "to get special priveleges".
Stop fucking writing shit where Lila pretends to be disabled and Marinette calls her out on it. It's literally just fucking ableism. Straight up, no fucking ifs, ands, or buts.
Accusing people of faking their disability is ableist.
Accusing people of wanting accomodations in order to "Get ahead" or "Get attention" is fucking ableist.
The show was ableist as shit by having Lila do this. The show was ableist as shit for wanting us to be on Marientte's side when she makes a scene in front of the whole class accusing Lila of faking a disability.
But just because she show did the fucking ableist shit first does not make it okay for you to fucking repeat it or make it even fucking worse.
No, it is not okay for you to write fics about Lila pretending to be disabled and getting all these wonderful benefits from doing so that make her life so much fucking easier and let her have unfair advantages over the class in general and Marinette in particular.
THAT IS LITERALLY JUST ABLEISM.
[Plain text: "That is literally just ableism." End plain text.]
No, it is not fucking okay for you or anyone else to perpetuate the myth that disabled people are faking it for attention or unfair advantages.
That's literally all you, the show, and anyone whose who writes this kind of shit is doing.
Yes, even if you've made it an AU where Marinette is disabled. And no, saying that Marinetter has a "real" disability and "Being hard of hearing isn't really a disability" does in fact just make it more ableist, not less. Why does this even need to be said. If you write a fic pitting disabled people against eachother, saying that only one of them deserves accomodations when there's nothing stopping both of them from having their needs met, you are just being ableist and you are encouraging your audience to be ableist.
Tinittus is a real fucking thing that actually exists. So many people in this fandom were literally pretending it's made up and fake just because Lila's the one who said it. Being hard of hearing makes you disabled. Yes, "really" disabled. There's no such fucking thing as faking being disabled or not being "disabled enough to deserve accomodations".
Stop writing fics where Lila pretends to be disabled. The show was ableist to do it in the first place, and you are not making the active choice to continue that ableism.
It is your personal responsibility not to be ableist. That means that when it comes to Lila, either throw the entire fucking thing of her pretending to be disabled into the fucking dumpster, or writer her as being disabled, and the moral is that Marinette is in fucking fact in the wrong for accusing her of faking it just because she doesn't like her.
Because I've been accused of lying about being disabled plenty of fucking times, and you know why? Because the person doing the accusing didn't like me, and decided that meant I had to be lying.
Do not fucking portray Marinette or any other character as in the right when they accuse someone of faking a disability for attention or an advantage. You are literally just being ableist and encouraging your audience to be ableist, and the show doing it first does not excuse your actions. It is your personal responsibility to not be ableist, it is your personal responsibility to call out the bigotry in this show, not reinforce it.
[Plain text: "Do not fucking portray Marinette or any other character as in the right when they accuse someone of faking a disability for attention or an advantage. You are literally just being ableist, and encouraging your audience to be ableist, and the show doing it first does not excuse your actions. It is your personal responsibility to not be ableist, it is your personal responsibility to call out the bigotry in this show, not reinforce it." End plain text.]
#Miraculous Ladybug#Lila Rossi#Lila salt#Marinette Dupain-Cheng#discussion of ableism#ableism#ML Fandom salt#ML fandom ableism#ML fandom bigotry#PSA#signal boost#ableist myths
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Hey, Miraculous Fandom, and Adrien Stans in particular, maybe you could STOP block evading and harassing people for critizing your favorite fictional white boy now?
Maybe you could stop sending anon hate and suicide baiting and calling people ableist slurs and insults now?
Hey Adrien stans, could you maybe please get it through your skulls that harassment is never okay and you need to stop block evading and going out of your way to harass people who already have you blocked?
Do you really want to hurt real living people that badly?
Are you so desperate to defend your fictional fav white boy that you will literally harass and suicide bait and throw the r slur at an autistic nonbinary person, all for the crime of critizing your favorite fictional character?
Someone in the fandom has already publicly committed suicide because of the harassment they faced for liking Lila, do you really want more deaths and harm on your shoulders because you couldn't resist harassing someone who critized your fictional character on the internet? You really want to suicide bait someone for critizing your favorite character? You really want to misgender and throw around the R slur at autistic people for critizing your fave?
Adrien stans, how about we stop harassing and stalking and block-evading the people who dare call out your favorite fictional billionaire? Do you really want to be the cause of another suicide? Do you really want to face real life legal repercussions? Do you really want to ruin other peoples lives and your own for the sake of 'defending' a fictional billionaire written by gross 40 year old men?
#bold text#large text#suicide baiting#ableism#Adrien salt#things adrien stans say#Miraculous Ladybug#LB#Suicide mention#Ml fandom salt#ml fandom ableism
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If you want the Miraculous Ladybug fandom to be safe for women, people of color, and disabled people?
Then you have to call misogyny, racism, and ableism when you see it.
You have to make your own posts, on your own blogs, as WELL AS reblogging other people’s posts on the subject.
If you want the racists, ableist, and misogynists to be the minority instead of the majority?
Then you have to speak up. You have to call it out. You can’t just wait for someone else to do it for you.
And the same goes with the show itself. You see problem behavior? You can’t just sit around silently, hoping someone else will call it out for you. Make your own post. Call it out.
How many people have come to me, thanking me for explaining the issues with the show, making them realize how harmful it was? How many people have thanked me for opening their eyes to the horrible stuff this show is romanticizing?
None of this would be happening if I’d just kept my mouth shut and sat idly by, hoping someone else would call it out, because I was too scared to draw attention to myself.
If you are grateful for my posts about Adrien’s behavior, about his stans’ behavior, about the racism and misogyny and ableism that runs rampant in this fandom, you can do me a favor.
You can return the favor.
All you have to do is start making your own posts. Start talking about it on your own blog.
Start calling racism out when you see people turning Alya into a racist caricature, saying she’s a money-grubbing, violent, bitter bully who abuses Marinette and everyone else in the class.
Start calling ableism out when you see people giving Lila mental illnesses and neurodiversities that they know nothing about, because they want to use them to make her seem more horrible and evil and irredeemable.
Start calling misogyny out when you see people victim-blaming Marinette for the way Adrien sexually harasses and abuses her.
If you want to make this fandom a safer place for women, people of color, and neurodivergent and mentally ill people?
Then you need to do your part, and call it out when you see it.
Nothing ever gets done because people sit quietly and hope someone else does it for them.
If you are grateful for my posts, if my posts have educated you, if they’ve helped you realize how harmful certain behavior and attitudes are, then please, I am begging you.
Return the favor. Talk about it without someone else prompting you to. Reblog posts on the subject, yes, but ALSO make your own! If it’s only five or so people actively calling out the shit behavior, the bigots will ALWAYS be in the majority!
You want to make this fandom a safer place?
You have to work to make it one.
#not a prompt#ml fandom salt#Miraculous Ladybug#adriensaltprompts#klandom#ml fandom racism#ml fandom misogyny#ml fandom ableism#Show!Miraculous#Show!Marinette#Show!Adrien
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you know what i’m having Feelings TM about lila now so here we go.
once again: it’s so messed up that she’s been labelled an irredeemable evil villain who doesn’t care about anyone’s feelings or anything and is gonna be the next hawkmoth or whatever because??? she’s told some lies???
like i get it. we know she’s lying and it’s frustrating (she’s also presented as some kind of genius manipulator which? still haven’t actually seen evidence for but whatever) but uh. just because lila lied about being friends with marinette/ladybug doesn’t necessarily mean she’s lying about literally everything else.
like it’s one thing for marinette to take what lila says with a grain of salt, and warn the rest of the class to do the same, and another thing totally to then uhh charge around levelling accusations of faking injuries and disabilities.
like, i get it, we (the audience) know lila is lying, we know marinette is justified in her disbelief.
but what marinette did was out of line and possibly the only time she wasn’t punished for her actions by the narrative.
because like, lol, obviously the girl that Marinette doesn’t like has to be faking her disabilities because *checks notes* only Good TM disabled people are allowed to be disabled and Lila is Bad therefore she’s lying about having disabilities which is hmmm. a stereotype. about disabled people. that they’re faking. for accomodations. because they’re lazy. which is exactly what we’re being shown.
because Obviously you just Know if someone is disabled and there aren’t literally many many kinds of disabilities out there that people cannot see. And what a great idea it is to show our heroine busting the evil little liar about lying about having invisible disabilities simply because she doesn’t like her. Just. Bruh.
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The chameleon prompt was rejected, because it’s demonizing Alya when she not only did nothing wrong, but actively did the right thing.
Here’s an explanation. it’s pretty long.
This prompt wasn’t nearly as bad as some of the other things I’ve seen, but it’s still not okay, and like I said, OOC.
I’m not angry at the person who submitted the prompt, because they were trying to write it correctly, but it was missing the mark, and just the same misconceptions and harmful ideas that run rampant in this fandom
this was supposed to be short I’m incapable of summarizing:
Marinette is not upset about moving her seat. She does not feel abandoned or betrayed. She does not feel like her friends don’t like her.
She’s overjoyed at first when she thinks it was all done for her benefit, and when she learns that it’s so a disabled student can sit at the front, she’s still 100000% fine with it, she’s just confused about who they’re talking about. It’s not a big deal to her at all once she finds out it wasn’t so she could sit next to Adrien.
It is only when she finds out the disabled student in question is Lila that she get angry.
And then she proceeds to be ableist, by arguing that she, an able-bodied person with no hearing or vision issues, should not have to move her seat so a disabled person can sit at the front so they can participate in class.
Marinette had no problem with helping a disabled student until she learned that the disabled student in question is someone she doesn’t like. Marinette was being ableist, and her friends rightfully got angry with her for doing so!
Friends are not supposed to support you when you’re being a bigot. And that’s what Marinette was being in Chameleon. She was being an ableist bigot.
She doesn’t like Lila, so she decided that that means that Lila is faking being disabled. And that is ableist. That make Marinette a bigot.
It doesn’t matter that the show did it first, or that the show tries to convince you that Marinette’s behavior is okay because Lila really is lying.
The in-universe justification does not justify the ableism being portrayed as a good thing.
It is an ableist myth that people “fake” being disabled so that they can “have things handed to them” or so they can “get help they don’t really need”.
If you don’t like someone, and that means you say they’re faking being disabled? You are ableist. You are a bigot. You are the bad guy.
It does not matter that Lila is actually lying. Just like it does not matter that the writers portray Adrien sexually harassing Marinette as a good thing.
Lila lying about being disabled is ableist in and of itself on the part of the writers. They are PURPOSEFULLY perpetuating the myth that people pretend to be disabled so they get whatever they want!
They are PURPOSEFULLY perpetuating the myth that disabled people are scammers and fakers and liars who are preying on the sympathy of good people!
It is your responsibility to not be ableist. It is your responsibility to do better than the writers of the show.
If you don’t want to be ableist, do not have Lila pretend to be disabled in your fics, or have her actually be disabled, and have Marinette face consequences for her ableist behavior.
Whether that’s her friends actually giving her the cold shoulder, confronting her about her bigotry, or even Ms. Bustier / the principal calling her parents, and them sitting her down to explain to her why her behavior is okay, something needs to happen to make Marinette realize how horrible she’s being.
Just because you don’t like someone doesn’t mean they’re faking being disabled.
Just because you think someone “doesn’t look” disabled doesn’t mean they’re faking being disabled.
Accommodating disabled people is not bad, or evil, or wrong, even if it means an abled person has to give up their seat or is inconvenienced or annoyed.
Alya and the rest of the class did nothing wrong. Marinette was so late to school she almost got locked out of the building, even though she literally lives next door to it and has no excuse for being so late. She was so late they probably thought she was staying home sick.
Accomodating disabled students is not wrong. It’s not bad. it’s not a betrayal. It’s not about how abled people feel.
Even if Marinette felt like her friends were “abandoning” her with the seat change--which she did not--it still wouldn’t matter!
Her wanting to keep her normal seat (which she literally didn’t care about until she learned it was for Lila!) is not more important than a disabled student being allowed to participate in class!
The whole premise of the “conflict” in this episode is ableist, both in the ableist myth it perpetuates, and the way the conflict is handled. The episode demonizes the people who are willing to accommodate disabled people, and praises the person who throws a fit over it and accuses them of faking.
The episode is ableist. The writers are ableist. It is your responsibility to do better.
Do not demonize the class for wanting to accommodate a disabled student.
Do not praise Marinette for accusing someone of faking their disability.
Do not praise Marinette for deciding that Lila isn’t really disabled because she doesn’t like her.
Do not praise the demonization of disabled people. Do not praise the demonization of accomodations. Do not praise the myth that disabled people are liars and scammers.
Do not praise Marinette for being ableist.
#bold text#swearing tw#ableism#ml fandom salt#marientte salt#actual Marinette salt#ml writers salt#ml writers guillotine#Show!Miraculous#Show!Marinette#Show!Adrien
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Lukanette stans really are something else, huh. I would say that them calling colored/disabled/non-straight and/or cis people who stan Adrien ‘tokens’ and being racist about Kagami and Alya in some of the worst ways imaginable is the lowest they can go (along with saying Luka, a white Scottish person is a POC, smfh. But Kagami, a light-skinned Japanese girl isn’t a POC/WOC because she ‘looks white’, like, what the actual fuck), but I was proven wrong when one of them called a Love Square fan ‘dyslexic’ for misreading a post. Add ableism to their already existing bucket full of a coin per prejudice they have against not just LS stans, but marginalized groups as a whole in general (this is talking about the blatantly racist, queerphobic, ableist and sexist parts of the fandom, not the decent fans who don’t cross lines and don’t suck Satan’s ass).
#lukanette for ts#i like the ship but the stans... they're demonic#tw: ableism#anti lukanette stans#anti lukanette#ml fandom salt#miraculous ladybug#val.txt#my original content#racism#tw: queerphobia#queue could ever leave me darling#tw: rant#venting#anti ml fandom
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in addition to Antibug | Copycat and Sentibug, Adrien had every reason to suspect Thiefbug
and, because he has met Ladybug ever, therefore to fear that the unknown person in possession of the Ladybug Miraculous might have acquired same by force, not stealth
(stealth being bad too, of course, but "civilian Ladybug might not know she's missing her Miraculous" bad is different from "civilian Ladybug might be bleeding out in an alley at this very moment" bad)
One of the most nonsensical things I’ve seen people salt on Adrien for is his initial reaction to Scarabella.
“Uh! Can you believe Adrien, attacking Alya like that. What a monster. This proves he’s unworthy of having his Miraculous.”
Yeah, cuz it’s not like Antibug and Sentibug were a thing along with Copycat.
Oh my god like. I saw this shit because I had unfortunately not blocked all the salt when that came out.
And not only were people using this as a reason to call him an asshole but they were also like "well between trying to Cataclysm her and actually Cataclysming Uncanny Valley clearly he's racist and-"
I just. Y'all.
I know I am so many levels of terminally online and cringe so when I say this you know it's bad: PLEASE go outside and touch some grass.
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People next to the character which indicates symptoms of autism/ADHD: It's not canon! It's a headcanon! It needs to be confirmed that she is neurodiverse!
Also people next to a character who just looked at a character of the same sex in a characteristic way: This needs to be banned! This is LGBT+ propaganda!
So in the end you have to confirm that the character is that or the fuck not? I'm lost in all this shit
What next? A character has to say that the character isn't white because people have to have fucking confirmation that the character is fucking black or Asian?
How I don't like denying that a character is neurodiverse when in other cases there is drama for an LGBT+ character or people don't deny the character's complexion and ethnicity, even if no one fucking confirmed it
How I hate that people deny all this but then make a drama about a queer character that isn't even confirmed
#ableism#abelism#disability rights#disabilities#disability#fandom#mlb fandom#toh fandom#gravity falls fandom#fandom talk#fandom culture#ml fandom salt#lgbt pride#lgbtqia#lgbtq community#lgbtq#queer#pride#queer community#autism spectrum#autism#audhd#neurodivergent#neurodiversity#asd#autistic#actually autistic#adhd#neurodivergence#fandom salt
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if you weren't in the Miraculous Ladybug fandom back in 2018/2019, you may be wondering, "What the fuck was going on?"
You want to know what the fandom's excuse was for turning Alya into a vicious, physically violent murderous bully who's been terrifying Marinette since the day she met her?
You want to know their excuse for saying that Alya shoves all her babysitting duties off on Marinette and then doesn't pay her?
Their excuse for saying that Alya steals literally millions of dollars worth of food and material from Marinette's parent's bakery and from Marinette herself?
Their excuse for saying that she suicide baits Marinette and purposefully poisons her food with things she knows she's allergic to, and rips her sketchbook to pieces and strangles Marinette half to death before throwing her into the river to drown while the rest of the evil irredeemable class stands there cheering?
What's their "excuse"?
Chameleon.
The episode Chameleon.
That's the excuse they all reached for. That's the best they could come up with. Chameleon.
These racist pieces of shit were pretending that all of this absurdly racist shit they were writing about Alya and pretending was her actual real personality, is all based on the events of Chameleon.
The real truth is that these people were and are literally just racist sacks of shit who wanted to write about Marinette being bullied with No One To Rely On except for the fucking random batman character of the week they were having her date, and since they're racist sacks of shit, no, they couldn't just go with the path of least resistance and also the path of logic and have Chloe being doing the bullying. You know, the way she has been Marinette's whole life?
Nope.
They're racist sacks of shit, so since Chloe's white with blonde hair and blue eyes and they thought she was hot and The Coolest Feminist Ever, (Yes, these people were pretending that Chloe's a feminist. No, I'm not joking. Nothing in this post is a joke), they decided, because they are racist, that Alya is the best choice to be the Vicious Unrelenting Tormentor of poor sweet fragile Marinette who is pale and sad and can't do anything to defend against Alya's wrath.
And Lila need not even be involved at all!
Sure, some fics pretended that Alya was 'taking Lila's side even after she tried to murder Marinette and sent her to the hospital with broken bones' and had Lila egging on Alya's violence, but some of them weren't even trying to pretend to be anything other than what they were. Which is racist piles of steaming shit.
And these racist asshats genuinely believed with every fiber of their being that these Alya salt stories they were writing were true. Were real. Were based on canon and absolutely likely to happen. These people had convinced themselves that canon Marinette is just an innocent victim of the vicious bully Alya, and that Chloe is the only one Marinette can trust and rely on.
And this wasn't just one or two posts. No. This wasn't even "just" a dozen posts.
This was hundreds. Literally hundreds of posts. Dozens of new ones every day. I'm not even exaggerating when I say that every third post in the Miraculous Ladybug tag was turning Alya into an unrecognizable racist caricature and then being graphically punished for her crimes against the pale and thus pure innocent victims, Marinette and Chloe.
I wish I were joking. I wish this was an exaggeration. I wish literally any of this was hyperbole. But it's not. Every example here is something I literally had to read. That these racist scumbags were insisting was in character and based in reality and actually what was happening in the show!
And a lot of these people, when confronted for their absolutely fucking atrocious levels of anti-black racism, would try to spin themselves as the victim! They were bullied in school, so they're venting about it!
Then why not have Chloe, the literal vicious bully, be the bully, you're asking?
Because that would have required this deluge of "Alya salt" to be based on something besides racism, which it wasn't.
This shit went on for months on end. More and more racist fic being churned out by the day, and if you dared to call it out or criticize it, even without ever approaching any of these people or calling them out by name, you were met with a flood of aggression and harassment, not just by the authors themselves, but their fans who wouldn't hear a negative word against them.
Oh and it also must be remembered that, when Lila was involved in these "Salt fits", the bigotry was not just anti-black racism, it was rampant and uncurbed ableism. Of every fucking imaginable kind, though most usually hatred for people with personality disorders and psychosis.
I remember one infamous fucking line that said, and I quote, to justify Gabriel murdering Lila,
"That girl is a psychopath. I have empathy, I can tell.”
That's a literal direct quote. No, I am not joking. Here's a fucking archived version of the post, which has finally been edited to be less ableist. But also please fucking note that the original person who created the prompt in the first place is a fucking pedophile, who writes disgusting shit about Lila that you can't pay me enough to repeat. Block gale-gentlepenguin, who was then known as gale-of-the-nomads.
And guess what happened when I made a post about how ableist this line was? Not even mentioning the fic author by name? Hmm? Go ahead and guess!
That's right! I got dogpiled by the angry ableist fans who flooded my inbox to tell me it's not ableist because uh-- *checks notes* ableism is only bad if it's against physically disabled people! No, I'm not joking!
This fandom has always been fucking filled with atrocious levels of bigotry, justified and defended under the flimsiest of excuses.
If you don't believe me, find the old posts. Go through the "Alya salt" tag and keep fucking scrolling. Go back all the way to when Chameleon was first released. Go back and see the fucking history of this fandom which you are so desperate to defend.
This fandom hates Alya Cesaire far past what she deserves for anything she has ever done or will ever do in the show. I am writing this post on June 26th, 2022. I have seen the scene from Multiplication. And yes, it's fucking horrible.
And I am telling you as someone who has been in this fandom for years, nothing Alya will ever do from the moment onward, no matter how bad, will ever be bad enough to justify the hatred and violence and racism that has been directed against her for years.
Nothing Alya will ever do in the show will ever come even remotely close to matching up to the hatred she receives just for existing as a Black girl.
#ML fandom history#ml fandom racism#fandom racism#Miraculous Ladybug#Alya Cesaire#Marinette Dupain-Cheng#Alya defence squad#Alya defense squad#ml fandom ableism#Lila Rossi
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Writing about real life people (celebrities, actors/actresses...etc.)
The Maybe's: 🤔
Queer relationships/characters (since I'm not part of the LBGTQ+ community I feel if I do attempt to write characters who are queer I'll do them a disservice, but I'm willing to research and try if I have a feeling it might not be ready to throw in the trash ^_^)
Disabled characters (same thing with queer relationships/characters, doing anyone a disservice or offending people is the last thing on my mind, but I may need more time to write these due to extensive research)
Fandoms I write for:
FMA/FMAB (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Biker Mice from Mars (1993, 2006)
ML (Miraculous Ladybug)
Spy x Family
Buddy Daddies
Belle (2021)
Phantom of the Opera
ATLA (Avatar the Last Airbender)
Final Fantasy (FFVII, Crisis Core, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, FFXII 13-2)
Cells at Work!
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990, 1991, 1993, 2003, 2017)
The Mandalorian
Star Wars
Yakuza Fiance
Inuyasha
Akatsuki no Yona
Snow White with the Red Hair
BNHA/MHA (My Hero Academia)
Manner of Death (thai drama)
Rurouni Kenshin
The Mandalorian
Kakuriyo no Yadomeshi/Bed and Breakfast for Spirits
Vincenzo
Mouse (kdrama)
Hometown Cha Cha Cha (kdrama)
Doctor John (kdrama)
Almost any jdrama/kdrama (if I didn't watch what you requested I'll watch it & then decide if I can write something)
Skyrim
Bridgerton
(List will be updated regularly)
#chatty charinette#request rules#requests#ml#fma#atla#ffvii#inuyasha#akatsuki no yona#aot#snk#mandalorian#manner of death#kakuriyo: bed & breakfast for spirits#kakuriyo no yadomeshi#bnha#mha
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A lot of the criticism Kagami gets is sexist and borderline ableist. The NY Special highlights that especially -- she was criticized for how she comforted Adrien. People called her self centered and said she only made it worse.
What they don't understand is that Kagami is clearly very low-empathy and, as a low-empathy woman myself, I can tell you that she was genuinely trying during the NY Special. The advice she gave Adrien is what would have made her feel better, and since she doesn't have a sense of what he needs (since, again, she's low empathy) she didn't understand that it wouldn't help. She genuinely tried her best.
This is compounded by the fact that a lot of Kagami's traits -- monotone speaking voice, not very expressive physically, focused on a few subject matters -- are very common in autistic people. I am by far not the first person to say that even if Kagami isn't autistic, she is autistic-coded.
Combined with the fact that Kagami is female and autism is under-diagnosed and more stigmatized in girls/women than it is in men, this isn't a good look.
(Even if Kagami wasn't autistic-coded, by the way, she still breaks the mold of what women are "supposed" to be, which means that even if she isn't subject to ableism, she's subject to sexism. She's athletic/physically focused, unempathetic, smart and she knows it, etc. And all of this is to say nothing of the racism that could be factoring in to the fandom's perception of her.)
People criticize Kagami not because she's a bad person, but because she breaks the mold, and we've been taught that breaking the mold is just as bad as being a bad person.
I’m making a YouTube video right now about the slander characters get from the ML fandom & I need y’all opinions.
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hey quick fyi.
if you’re describing marinette’s behaviour around adrien as sp*stic, sp*zzing, sp*z attack or anything similar i will personally come to your house and beat you with your keyboard.
sp*stic functionally serves the same purpose as r*tard and describing a girl struggling to speak comprehensibly is an absolutely appalling thing to do and is so ableist i can’t even begin to describe it.
it’s not a cute fun word for you to use okay. technically it refers to muscle spasms but it’s used offensively often against people with disabilities, or people who act ‘weird’ (like myself), and people need to stop before i make you stop.
#ml#marinette#ableism#i see this almost every fic i read#sp*stic mention#r*tard mention#violence mention#look im not diagnosed with anything professionally#but little girls in school immediately declared me a sp*stic so theres that i guess#which is probably true tbh#anyway#i will absolutely whoop the asses of anyone who comes on this post defending the use of ableist slurs#and i mean it#i fly into a murderous rage irl whenever someone insults me with these words#and im not exaggerating#ml fandom salt#ml salt#i will literally throttle you
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Bro
"You're a shitty person and you don't accept a well-presented disability"
Do I need to say much? This seriously has vibes of that bike comic book meme
#cartoon#cartoonist#ml salt#ml fandom salt#ml writers salt#ml writing critical#ml writing salt#thomas astruc salt#ableism#anti thomas astruc#Lmao#stupid
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Seriously, this guy's ignorance is appalling
"This is a brilliant lead"
It's about the disabled villain trope, yes, we're going towards ableism
"Miraculous delights"
"Owl House is crap. Nobody likes this canceled shit"
I love his bubble
#cartoon#cartoonist#ml salt#ml fandom salt#ml writers salt#ml writing critical#ml writing salt#thomas astruc salt#thomas astruc#ableism#anti thomas astruc
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