#ml writers guillotine

[rjalker]

A listener would have thought at last that the one role of woman on earth was a perpetual sacrifice of her person, a continual abandonment of herself to the caprices of a hostile soldiery.

can you believe this French man from the 1800s is more progressive and feminist and shaming of misogyny than real men today who pretend to write "Girl power" shows for little kids where they literally teach young girls that sexual harassment is the height of romance and that they should be happy that boys sexually harass them????

[fandomsarebrainless]

I don't wanna hear anyone defend that pussy Andre or Anappymandy or whatever the fuck his real name is ever again.

[mlwritingprompts]

Submitted prompt: This Movie Is Garbage

Because I refuse to believe Animated Astruc isn't just as much of a misogynistic creep in his writing as the real deal.

So, we've all heard the thing about Thomas Astruc basing Sabine on one of his ex-girlfriends, basing Tom on himself, and Marinette basically being his RPF fankid, right?

For those of you that didn't know, I am so sorry to have robbed you of your innocence.

Anyway, for the purposes of this prompt I'm ignoring Tom being a self-insert because Astruc has an even more blatant self-insert, that being the literal in-universe version of himself, which is the Thomas Astruc I will be referring to for the rest of this prompt unless specified otherwise.

Sabine and Thomas Astruc used to date. It doesn't really matter how their relationship went or how it ended- although for the record I'm going to assume badly- because the real meat of it comes after, when he started directing. 

See, in the Ladybug movie, Ladybug's mother shows up in a few scenes, and bears a striking resemblance to Sabine. On her third watch of the movie, Sabine manages to pause it at the right time and find a family photo in the background, and, wouldn't you know it, the fictional Ladybug's father bears a striking resemblance to Thomas Astruc himself.

Sabine realizes that Thomas clearly never got over her, and is now using his movies to imagine a future where they'd stayed together and had a child. While this is undoubtedly disturbing and more than a little pathetic, it's far from her only problem with the movie.

For one thing, there are certain shots and scenes in the movie that make Ladybug look... rather sexualized. She is at MOST fifteen in the movie and, having a teenage daughter herself, Sabine finds it disturbing that the camera seems to want her to view a teenage girl as sexually desirable. And the fact that said teenage girl is meant to be in the wrong for not wanting a relationship, and her arc resolves with her dating someone Sabine can safely say will not give her what she needs. (Like respect, for one thing)

The fact that this is an animated version of her and Thomas's potential child does not help matters at all.

And god, there is so much more. The more Sabine thinks about it, the more she realizes how bad this movie is on a writing level and a moral one.

She knows Marinette has seen it, so she decides to have a chat with her daughter about some of the more objectionable content. It's not that she doesn't trust her, but, well. Teenagers can be rather impressionable at times.

To her relief, Marinette already seems to have spotted it, and she is not pleased.

Neither is Alya, who is over at their house at the time, and seems to be in the process of writing a review of the movie to be posted on the Ladyblog. To call it a negative review would be an understatement.

Their discussion turns into more of a venting session about Thomas Astruc and all his various crimes against storytelling. Alya seems to be taking notes of Sabine and Marinette's complaints in between her own.

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Once Alya's review is published, all hell breaks loose on social media with regards to the Ladybug movie. The movie becomes deeply controversial, although most people seem to agree it's bad, even if they don't agree on why. Even more controversial than the movie itself is the people involved in making it.

Alya did her research on this one, and she found what can be generously described as "a lot of bad shit". Animators for the movie drawing NSFW of the very underage, very based on real children characters for one. Also, with Sabine's permission, she included the little tidbit about Movie!Ladybug being Thomas Astruc's hypothetical child with a woman he never got over.

Akumas will be made. Blood will be spilled. Call-out posts will be written. How do you imagine the fallout?

[walks-the-ages]

Are you fucking serious.

Her name is Ladylion

Is that really her fucking name?

They couldn't be assed to give her an actual proper name?

Oh wait, I forgot. These writers apparently think putting "Lady" in front of a whitewashed hero's name is "girlpower!!!!!!"

[adriensaltprompts]

I hate when adults try to write kids romance, when Aang kissed katara I realized watching the show that it was without her constant but it’s supposed to be ok because even though she was confused Aang pushes his feelings to her. The creators wanted the hero to get the girl. Same with cn. Ladybug is constantly telling him no but he always pushes it, why can’t kids learn about themselves and not about romance at 14. Girls aren’t prizes

I haven’t watched Avatar in a while so my memory is hazy but Avatar actually does way better than ML, since I do remember that when Aang kissed Katara after she told him she needed time to think, she snapped at him, reinforced that boundary and reiterated that she’d already told him to stop, and he was shown to be in the wrong.

Assuming I’m remembering right, which I might not be. But I distinctly remember her saying “I need some time to think,” Him kissing her, and her snapping at him that she just said she needs time to think.

He thought kissing her would magically solve all his problems and make her love him and it didn’t, and he had to deal with the consequences and was forced to respect her boundaries.

Miraculous Ladybug, meanwhile?

Marinette sets boundaries, Adrien maliciously violates them, laughs in her face, and he’s portrayed as in the right, and we’re supposed to be cheering him on, and awwing over the poor wittle baby when he gets sad about her rejecting him. And then he goes straight back to sexually harassing and assaulting her at every possible opportunity.

[rjalker]

[ID: The "you can excuse racism?" Meme, edited so that the first character has Adrien Agreste's winking face, saying, "I can excuse bullying and harassment, but I draw the line at anyting keeping me from dating Marinette."

The second character replies, "You can excuse bullying and harassment?!". End ID.]

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Also the fact that the show's been using Marinette's inability to confess to Adrien this whole time to humiliate her endlessly and acting like it's hilarious and funny and ridiculous...

But now they're literally going to reveal that she has actual fucking PTSD and is literally having actual panic attacks beacuse she's literally traumatizied?????

After all this time of humiliating her for comedy they're now going to reveal that she's literally traumatized??? They're doing this now, after they already had Marinette's teacher shaming her for standing up to her bully and not being the better person to set a good example?????

Fucking Pokemon Sun and Moon's anime did this shit too with Lill(ie? y?? idfk) being scared of Pokemon. She was attacked by a Pokemon when she was younger, and now she's afraid of them.

And during the whole fucking show they act like she's being stupid and ridiculous and over the top dramatic. Until the five seconds when they shame you and demand you feel bad for making fun of her trauma. And then five minutes later they go back to literally mocking her for her literal trauma response.

And now fucking ML's going to do the same thing except it's even worse because they're literally only doing it to make Adrien look good. This whole fucking thing will be spun to show how much Adwien ~~~cares so much~~~ about Marinette that he'll break up with his childhood friend for her like a real hero!!! /sarcasm.

This is just misogynistic and ableist as all fucking hell.

Especially because you know the second the episode is over they're going to go straight back to mocking her endlessly for what they've now revealed is literally a trauma response.

Are you freaking serious? What will supposedly be the final nail in the coffin for A*ri*n and Ch*oe’s friendship will be him learning that her bullying of Marinette and the trauma it caused her is why she had so much trouble confessing to him? Meaning that, since apparently this season is when he finally becomes interested in her, it will ONCE AGAIN boil down to what inconviences A*ri*n and A*ri*en alone?! *sigh* I can’t believe I managed to still get angry. BraVO, Ass***k.

[rjalker]

These fucking idiots have written themselves into a corner because there are literally only two options here:

Either Adrien knew that was Felix, and knew that Ladybug had probably tried to give Adrien a Miraculous again, and, since Felix was currently pretending to be Adrien to the point that he managed to convince both Adrien's own father and Nathalie and everyone else, Ladybug thinks she's given the Dog Miraculous to Adrien. And Adrien knows this, and he decides not to warn her that that's actually Felix pretending to be Adrien, the way he did "when they first met him".

Option one: Adrien knows Ladybug is being tricked, and decides not to warn her.

Or Adrien doesn't know that that's Felix, and is just treating him like shit because uh.......Adrien's default response to new heroes is to hate their guts and treat them like shit for literally no reason except jealously that anyone else gets to interact with Ladybug.

Option two: Adrien doesn't know that's Felix, and is just treating him like shit because he just treats everyone like shit.

So, either Adrien is willfully endangering everyone and standing by while Ladybug is lied to and manipulated...or Adrien is literally just a terrible person who treats everyone like shit because he's mad they get to interact with the object of his obsession.

Marinette was even going out of her way to try and fucking make the introduction go smoothly and be friendly without Adrien getting fucking pissy or throwing a tantrum. She should not have to fucking babysit Adrien's feelings in the middle of fucking battle, but that's what she has to fucking do, because Adrien's a jealous fucking asshole who decides to make his jealously everyone else's problem, even in the middle of battle.

So which is it gonna be? Which fucking idiotic path are these writers going to go with?

Either they admit that Adrien is allowing Marinette to be lied to, or they admit that he treats other people like shit just by fucking default.

There is no fucking third option.

[critical-thinking-is-mandatory]

I don’t know if spoilers bother you but I’ll just say that zag posted a image on Instagram which a) not only spoils some upcoming hero designs but also b) has a ‘girl power!’ message right underneath a gratuitous and frankly disgusting image of ladybug that feels very sexualised with a lot of emphasis on her ass 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

i saw that and i was sitting there looking at it like

jhere's the link if anyone's interested https://www.instagram.com/p/CPfQ9_RAeUN/

and it is...bad doesn't even begin to cover it. just like with every other aspect of the show, it's telling us 'girlpower!! uwu' but it's showing us the absolute opposite. i don't know how on earth this was allowed to be published. it shouldn't have made it past the draft stages.

like i know i've talked about this before but the lengths the miraculous team go to to have all the child characters covered head-to-toe in clothes but still manage to make the girls feel naked is revolting. i'm no stranger to wearing revealing clothing, and i used to swim competitively, so like. i'm used to kids and young adults wearing skin tight swimmers being active, but it never felt as sexual as what the ml team have done.

also like, i haven't seen the she-ra reboot but i've seen screenshots, and like. boob windows are basically a key design feature throughout the show and never feel erotic??? i just. it's revolting how ml has managed to make girls wearing full-length clothing feel like nudity.

also spoilers but the fact that they make the one fat girl have actual layers to her costume and none of the others??? just full on fatphobia my dudes. end spoilers

anyway as soon as i dig my drawing tablet out of my desk drawer i'm gonna be putting chat noir in the same pose ala hawkeye project (which i highly recommend looking up and was an eyeopener for little me and how we represent women, specifically cis women in media).

[mlwritingprompts]

Submitted prompt: Over-Prepared Marinette Saves herself purposely, and accidentally.

edited a little

Am I the only one who thinks Marinette was a little OOC during Chat Blanc?? And where was Tikki and Alya?!

Chat Blanc AU where Marinette's thinking and planning ablities are not taken away for the sake of that horrible hugging scene, with a pinch of Adrien salt.

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As Nathalie left with the tablet from which Gabriel casually ordered Marinette to break-up with Adrien or else he would not allow his son to go to school (which is abuse and he should pay for this. Preferably by his life), Marinette was meanwhile trying to control the raging emotions inside of her.

But at the same time, she did not forget that she is Ladybug.

While she can admit that she had faults, being an idiot or naive was not one of them, at least, not when it mattered.

She knew that if she was to do as Gabriel asked (ordered) her to do, she will have a long-awaited breakdown.

And when people have any negative emotions, from slight annoyance to full blown mental breakdowns, Hawkmoth tries to possess them, mind-control them, and forces them to do his bidding.

Marinette is many things, but she is not an idiot.

She knows that following Gabriel's demands means giving Hawkmoth a chance to Akumatise her, and Adrien.

And she knows that she won't be able to hold herself from actually breaking down like the many other times she's managed to repress her emotions unhealthily.

Tikki won't be able to help her as if she tried to catch and purify the butterfly targetting her on her own, it might cause unknown side effects, not to mention that it might blow her cover and Hawkmoth can find out she is Ladybug.

No.

Tikki can't help on her own.

And Marinette can't deal with the emotional pain on her own without breaking down, and she knew that she won't be able to resist effectively.

But no one said that the duo of a Kwami and her friend are alone.

Marinette knows people who can help her.

People who she trusts to protect her life.

Even more than she trusts Adrien.

As she returned to her room to calm herself, she looked over the plan she was thinking of, and deemed it the best thing to do for now.

"Tikki."

The Kwami looked at her.

"Do you trust me?"

Tikki nodded.

"Of course, Marinette!"

Marinette breathed.

"I will be honest here, Tikki, I won't be able to stop myself this time, and I know, Ladybug duties and all that, but please listen to me first."

Whatever Tikki was about to say was stopped.

Breathing again, Marinette continued.

"I know that it might be different to you and your past holders but it isn't so simple to separate your emotions from yourself, and at some point, people have to feel something. This is my limit. I'm really sorry but I can't keep bottling things up like this. It's killing me."

Tikki looked in shock for few seconds before a look of resignation appeared on her face as tears started flowing from the Kwami's eyes.

"But I don't want you to be controlled by that villain Marinette."

Marinette smiled sadly.

"Me neither, and that's why I have made a plan, and I am sure of it's success."

Tikki perked up.

"Are you sure? This isn't like our normal obstacles."

Marinette's smile didn't waver.

"Trust me, Tikki. I know a way to deal with this, the plan is              "

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And with the plan laid out to her, Tikki had to agree that this might be the best plan under these conditions.

"I understand, Marinette, and I trust your plan. You never failed in defeating the odds before after all."

Marinette gave a slight laugh.

"Let's go then, Tikki, spots on!"

Transformed, Marinette exited her room, with her target in mind...

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The next day, Marinette stood at the gate of the Agreste mansion, her heart pounding at the fact that she will have to shatter Adrien's heart.

Adrien looked from the door, asking her what is going on.

"Marinette? Why aren't you coming in? What's wrong?"

Her heart started to break.

"Adrien, I... Forgive me, we, we're not just right for each other."

Adrien was not able to believe that.

"What are you talking about? Of course we are, we love each other!"

Marinette breathed and then spoke.

"No! I... don't love you... Anymore!"

With that she ran from the mansion, knowing that she can no longer contain her emotions anymore and Adrien pleaded desperately with Henri to let him go to her.

Meanwhile, Gabriel thought to himself that he truly got the jackpot, and sent the Akuma towards the distraught girl, just as Adrien managed to convince Henri to let him go.

Adrien yelled her name which caused her to see him as he transformed into Chat Noir.

Unfortunately for Adrien, his bout of confidence was all for naught, because before he can even jump and use the Cataclysm to destroy the corrupted butterfly, a red yoyo with black spots appeared out of nowhere, opening as it sucked the Akuma in before it got any closer to Marinette.

Adrien, Nathalie and even Hawkmoth stood there dumbly as the yoyo retreated behind one of the roofs around the place, and then, Ladybug appeared, seemingly jumping from the roof she hid in.

"It seems you were targeted by an Akuma, are you alright?"

The heroine looked concerned, and Marinette took a breath, while glancing at Adrien, trying to push down the bile in her throat as the realisation that Adrien and Chat Noir, her harasser are one and the same.

"O- oh, yeah, I'm fine..." She couldn't trust her voice if she tried to say anything else right now.

Because she knows that now, even without Gabriel's threat, she WILL break up with Adrien. She might even kill him.

"Come on, let me bring you home."

Marinette accepted as the hero held her and they flew away, leaving Adrien horrified at the fact that he was NOT dating Ladybug, and causing Gabriel to throw away his cane in frustration and screaming at the fact that his plan to make the masterpiece Akuma was ruined.

With only one silver lining that wasn't actually a silver lining. Adrien being Chat Noir would have been better if Chat Noir weren't notoriously horrible at his job.

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A few hours later, after Marinette managed to pull herself together (as much as she can with the revelation of who her harasser really was under the suit), she looked at the Kwami in front of her.

Mullo, the Kwami of the Mouse Miraculous.

"Let's see, if nothing went wrong with the other two, then..."

Transforming, she jumped, going straight towards a secluded area, where two figures were waiting her.

One of them was wearing the Fox Miraculous, and the other was wearing the Ladybug earrings.

Notably, the Ladybug holder was not the same person as Ladybug.

"Multimouse?" The fox weilder asked while clutching their weapon.

Better be safe than sorry, especially with imposter akumas and amoks.

"Evil only wins when good does nothing." Marinette stated, and the two relaxed. That was their agreed password, and it seems that none of them were imposters. To be sure, they exchanged three more passwords, each more obscure than the last.

"The plan to save Marinette was a success, just as I hoped. Rena Rouge, Viperion"

Marinette said, looking at Luka who was for now wearing the Fox miraculous, and Alya who was wearing the Ladybug earrings.

The plan that Marinette made to protect herself from Hawkmoth's influence at her moment of weakness was both simple and convoluted.

First, she took both the Fox and the Mouse yesterday, transformed as Ladybug and told Alya that due to reasons, she won't be able to be in the city in the next day to protect the city, and she was giving her the earrings to fill her place for tomorrow at least.

Then going to Luka along with Alya who transformed into Rena rouge, and explained the situation to him, and asked him to try to give the impression that "Ladybug" had never left by using an illusion over Rena Rouge who would be wearing the Ladybug earrings to make her look exactly like Ladybug.

And finally, she told them that later, she would have a retired Miraculous holder called Multimouse to get the Miraculouses back at a later date.

It was a little difficult for them to fully comprehend the plan right away, as well trying to use different Miraculouses than the ones they normally did, but they succeeded.

Her plan had actually worked.

Even more spectacularly than she imagined. Because she didn't get Akumatised.

And even more horrifically than she wanted it to be as well. Because the fact that her crush and her harasser are the same was more painful than her breaking up with him before finding out.

She saved herself on purpose by destroying Hawkmoth's attempt to control her.

And she saved herself accidentally, from the clutches of her harasser.

She needs more time to wrap her head around all of this...

[walks-the-ages]

Someone guillotine whoever decided to airbrush Marinette's butt into this transformation

The Miraculous Crew had the benefit of the doubt only until I saw for myself their pedophilic art of Marinette and Adrien.

There's no way this is unintentional. They DELIBERATELY set out to make Marinette more "sexy" in this outfit. They had no fucking reason to make her butt so detailed, and it's visible throughout the episode.

[adriensaltprompts]

hey sorry if this is annoying but, I'm back to ml after some months and it's brought to my attention that in one reply you called Adrien an "abusive billionaire" and his stans are making r*pe apologism. what's going on?!!? is it because of his behavior towards ladybug or am I missing something??? it's making me really concerned

I tagged you in a post with explanations and links to more explanations, and also reblogged them here, and you can probably also just browse my “ml fandom salt” and “ml fandom guillotine” tags.

Long story short:

Every excuse Adrien stans use to defend Adrien’s behavior towards Marinette is rape apologism. Because she’s told him no dozens of times now, she’s made her feelings clear, and he continues to harass her, and his stans insist that, despite the dozens upon dozens of times she’s told him no and rejected him, that she “doesn’t really mind,” and several have told me, literally, “it doesn’t matter if she says no, she’s still consenting”.

Which is literally fucking rape apologism.

They see Marinette tell Adrien to stop, they see her get angry and upset with him, and they think it means she “doesn’t really mind” and “does actually consent” even when she literally tells him to his face “stop calling us a couple” and he laughs in her face literally for no other reason than to piss her off.

Adrien violates MArinette’s boundaries and consent every chance he gets. And Adrien stans defend this by saying he’s not violating her consent because despite the multiple verbal and non-verbal nos she’s repeatedly given him, she’s still consenting.

Adrien stans insist, over and fucking over again, that if she’s not literally punching him in the face and attacking him in self defence, that she’s consenting.

They are literally fucking saying that if you don’t punch your attacker in the face, you are consenting.

They are literally fucking saying that it doesn’t matter how many times you say no, you’re still consenting.

That is fucking rape apologism. And literally to find it?? just find an Adrien stan and ask them why they think it’s okay for Adrien to continue harassing Marinette after she’s rejected him.

They’ll either fucking pull out the straight up rape apologism mentioend above, or they’ll go with the fucking abuse apologism rout and say that, literally “it’s not his fault he’s sexually harassing her” because he’s abused, and because he’s abused, it’s okay for him to sexually harass her, and if you are upset by his behavior and want him to stop abusing her, you’re “victim-blaming” him.

The only way you can defend Adrien’s behavior is by defending rape culture and misogyny, because there is no other lense through which his behavior can be seen as acceptable.

Adrien stans think its okay for men to abuse women as long as the man has a reason for abusing her. Adrien stans think it’s okay for a man to punish a woman for rejecting him as long as he has a reason to be upset.

Adrien stans think it’s okay for Adrien to violate every boundary Marinette has ever set because they don’t give a single shit about Marinette, or any of the actual fucking victims speaking up about this fucking horrific bullshit.

The Miraculous Ladybug writers are portraying sexual harassment and assault as romantic and cute, and Adrien stans, many of whom are fucking adults, are reenforcing this fucked up idea and 

Adrien Agreste is an abusive piece of shit white boy billionaire, and his stans are rape and abuse apologists, because every argument they come up with to defend his fucking horrific behavior is literally just regurgitated victim-blaming bullshit.

It’s Marinette’s fault, because she hasn’t fought back hard enough. It’s Marinette’s fault, because she hasn’t ‘sat him down and talked him through it’. It’s Marinette’s fault, because she’s nice to him. It’s Marinette’s fault, because she’s not nice enough to him. As far as Adrien stans are fucking concerned, if they are even capable of admitting that there’s anything wrong with Adrien’s behavior, they still refuse to hold him accountable for it, because they don’t give a shit about MArinette.

They don’t give a shit about victims.

All they fucking care about is their fictional, abusive white boy billionaire.

[rjalker]

Anyways, you know what I just realized now, lol?

The reason Adrien had to fail so ridiculously in Desperada?

Was it to show how irresponsible Adrien is?

Nope, you're supposed to be cheering for him and feel bad for him because he's "traumatized from having to watch the girl he loves die over and over again".

Like he's not the one who literally kept choosing to let her get killed rather than do the responsible thing and not fucking lie to her and abandon Plagg.

Was Deperada written to show us how horrible of a person and so-called "hero" Adrien is?

Nope!

You want to know why it was written? Literally?

To punish Marinette for trying to rely on Adrien without his secret identity getting in the way. She did not mean to give the Snake Miraculous to Chat Noir, she meant to give it to Adrien Agreste.

The boy she has a crush on.

The entire episode exists to punish Marinette for trying to interact with Adrien when she knows it's him, rather than him as Chat Noir, who she doesn't realize is him.

Because that would mean letting Marinette get over the literal trauma response of debilitating anxiety that she has whenever she tries to interact with him.

That would mean letting Marinette actually be happy and would mean that their ""relationship"" actually gets to develop in a way that benefits them both, instead of it literally just being Adrien sexually harassing Marinette for five seasons straight and having the time of his life with it while she's so stressed and anxious and depressed she's constantly literally on the verge of a fucking mental breakdown.

And these writers, these 45+ year old white men, cant' have that. They can't let Marinette be happy, they can't let her have a healthy relationship with Adrien, because that would ruin all their fun of tormenting her through their self-insert "can do no wrong and if he does do something wrong it's actually Marinette's fault" Adrien.

The writers did not intend for Desperada to showcase how horrifically irresponsible and callous Adrien is in regards to the safety of Marinette or anyone else in Paris. It's not meant to show how horribly he treats Plagg, abandoning him at the drop of a fucking hat.

It's meant to punish Marinette for daring to try to do something to progress her relationship with Adrien beyond "literal panic attacks at the thought of talking to him". We're supposed to blame everything that goes horribly wrong in the episode on Marinette, for daring to choose Adrien over Luka.

....Even though the writers themselves were then forced to immediately write Luka out of the story because they realized that their audience was coming to the painfully obvious conclusion that if Marinette has to be in a relationship, she deserves to be in one with Luka rather than Adrien, because Luka actually treats her with respect and compassion.

The entire thing exists to punish Marinette.

Kind of like the literal entire show.

[rjalker]

The ML writers: Marinette is bad because she doesn't pay enough attention to Adrien's feelings! That means she's selfish and cruel!! She should be more careful about not hurting his feelings!!!

Also the ML writers: Marinette is bad because she's paying too much attention to Adrien's feelings! She should stop trying to avoid hurting his feelings!!! This whole situation is her fault!!!!

[rjalker]

THEY'RE HAVING MARINETTE, THE CHILD, APOLOGIZE TO THE POLICE WHO RACIALLY PROFILED HER MOTHER AND SHE IS OFFERING TO PAY THE FAKE FINE THEY TRIED TO GIVE HER MOTHER BECAUSE SHE WAS RACIALLY PROFILED AND ARRESTED WITHOUT CAUSE AND THIS IS THE ENDING OF THE EPISODE THAT MARINETTE IS 'DOING THE RIGHT THING' AND HAS 'LEARNED HER LESSON' BY PAYING THE FAKE FUCKING FINE THAT THE RACIST COPS CHARGED HER MOTHER WITH PURELY BECAUSE OF RACISM, THE FINE THAT SHE LITERALLY DOES NOT OWE BECAUSE MARINETTE PROVED SHE HADN'T LIED

[rjalker]

Yeah. You want to call Adrien out? You want people to stop pretending it’s okay because he only does it while he has the mask on? Call him Adrien isntead of Chat Noir. Stop letting people pretend they’re two different people.

Call him Adrien. Not Chat Noir. Just Adrien. Get it through people’s heads that this is Adrien Agreste threatening to let over two million people drown. This is Adrien Agreste sexually harassing a girl every time he sees her.

Adrien/Chat has many deep rooted FLAWS. Negative connotation flaws but the show just acts as if he’s perfect, even Thomas. It worries me because if Thomas acts as if marinette being a stalker is normal, and chat is perfect, I wonder what he’s like irl. Does he think stalking is ok then cuz he’s done it in the past but supposedly learned from it? Does he think Chat getting mad at Ladybug for not showing up when she said she wouldn’t is also perfectly acceptable because he does the same? It really rubs me the wrong way and his entire Twitter does not help his case. I question his morals on a lot of things and while it’s fine to have your own opinions, It’s not a good message to kids at all. It’s one thing to have these concepts in a show meant for older kids, but this is supposedly a show for very young ppl. I just don’t think they should’ve had these included if they don’t treat them as if it’s serious, jokingly or not.

The thing is, Astruc has acknowledged Adrien’s behavior as Cat Noir once in a reply to the famous “Adrien isn’t flawed, the world is” tweet.

And yet Astruc doesn’t realize that what he just said is also an invalid analogy.

Cat Noir is not a split personality. Adrien is fully aware of his actions and is never called out by the narrative, and yet Astruc is trying to say that we shouldn’t blame Adrien for doing stuff like acting entitled to Ladybug’s attention? While at the same time saying Hawkmoth is a different story even though he and his son have eerily similar entitlement issues?

Adrien has many character flaws that the narrative actively refuses to point out or criticize in favor of making him look sympathetic or morally superior depending on the situation. Astruc can say that kids he made up understand the writing, but it’s hard to tell if Adrien will have a negative effect on kids watching or not. 

Either that, or he’ll be one of those characters you see in articles years after the show ended that make you realize he was kind of an asshole. Basically, Adrien could become the Ross Geller or Ted Mosby of animation.

[rjalker]

Remember back when the show was new and everyone still assumed the writers were actually planning to tell an actual story, and everyone was like “Wow! I can’t wait until Adrien realizes he can have friends other than Chloe and starts learning to become a happier, healthier, better person!!!! I can’t wait until Adrien realizes that he has real friends now who care about him, so that he can stop sticking up for Chloe!!! I can’t wait until Adrien learns what healthy relationships look like so he can treat Marinette and the rest of his classmates with respect!!!!!!!”

and now it’s just “Wow, I sure hope Adrien doesn’t kill anyone this week.”