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Lucifer Was Innocent Novel
Lucifer, the angel who fell from heaven and was expelled due to his rebellion, poses a difficulty to our conscience of good and evil books. Was he really a bad guy or a victim of circumstances who refused to get involved? His disobedience is the cause of the disagreement: truth seeker or power hungry egoist? The exploration of Lucifer's story causes us to question ethics, free will, and the essence of evil.
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the reason why sam and dean’s unhealthy dynamic doesn’t need to be fixed is because they both (unconsciously) crave power imbalance but for completely different reasons
dean didn’t have much power when he was younger since john took his control away from him. which is why he seeks power/control via hunting, violence and his relationship with sam. dean’s repressed sadistic tendencies, his love for hunting, his enjoyment of torturing & killing souls in hell come from his repressed need to be in control
and sam, as jared said, wants to restrain his physical power. not only because he doesn’t feel comfortable in his body, being too big and intimidating on the outside but feeling smaller and craving safety on the inside. but also because of his guilt and wanting to prove to himself, and to dean, that he’s good. that dean can trust him. it makes him seek comfort in being punished, in being restrained and feeling smaller than he is, but dean is the only person who can give him what he needs because dean is also the only person sam trusts and submits to. as twisted as it may be, but dean’s control over him is the only thing that gives him a feeling of safety he’s always craved
they complement each other in this fucked up way, that’s why their dynamic cannot exist without a certain amount of power imbalance
#like i don’t think power imbalance exists purely bc dean is some awful guy and sam has been his victim since childhood yknow?#there’s so many nuances. so many reasons why they both PREFER it that way#although dean does take it to the extreme sometimes bc he’s too obsessed with the perfect version of sam aka innocent little brother#dean is also the more possessive one between the two of them but sam willingly lets him own him#bc of unconditional devotion he has towards dean but also there’s comfort in knowing he belongs to dean. not to john. not to lucifer#sam winchester#dean winchester#samdean#wincest#spn
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pspspsps; can you do some headcannons for Lucifer getting a crush on a friend and how this absolute disaster of a man would handle it? thanks love you <3
One Hazbin Hotel Lucifer headcanon is coming up!! Also, you are not dumb, Anon. I also sometimes forget that I write for two different Lucifers it gets confusing at times! I appreciate the clarification!
You and Lucifer went way back, back in heaven back. You heard all his ideas and thoughts, never once questioning him or calling him out like others did.
Lucifer thought he would never see you again when he fell from heaven. That you would be a distant memory for him to look back on.
He always kept a picture of you from your younger years in heaven tucked in his pocket. He even told Lilith all about you and Charlie.
Imagine his surprise when he entered his daughters hotel to see her for the first time in ages and there you were sitting at the bar talking to a cat demon.
He was in shock but due to the Radio Demon needing to butt in he was quickly pulled out of his shock.
Once things had settled at the hotel Lucifer learned from Charlie how she found you wondering the streets not to long after their father-daughter argument just before the hotel opened.
He was impressed that you willingly lost your title among the elder angels all because you couldn't stand the thought that innocent souls were being played with every year.
As he watched you coach Charlie and assist in the hotel he was taken aback. You may be a demonic angel now but you were just as breath taking as when you were teens.
Your (H/C) hair was pulled back from your face as you worked on a billboard for Charlie to hang. He loved your devotion to his family even if you never knew she was his till he appeared.
When he sought your company out privately for the first time after reuniting with you he was a complete mess.
He talked to himself in the mirror, talked to Charlie, Alsastor, hell he even turned to Angel dust on how to rekindle the old times with you.
Ironically after all this planning and attempts to talk to you, you were the one to ask him out for a day on the town you know for old time sake.
He was so excited yet so crushed that you made it a 'friend' date. But he knew he was getting ahead of himself. He would court you appropriately he wasn't going to mess another relationship up.
The date went well besides the 12 poles, 6 signs, 4 people, and 2 cars that he has tripped, walked, ran, and crawled in too. He couldn't help it you were just so you.
He was falling fast and hard as he learned more about how you were one of the only activists on the angelic counsel fighting his fight even after he fell.
When Adam threatened war on Charlies hotel he knew his hands were tied due to his deal with the Angels. Yours weren't though however. Once you guys learned about the Angelic Steel you and Vaggie took to training the cadets.
When Adam saw you down with Charlie baring arms he was taken aback you one of the wise elder angels fighting him? Oh this was gonna be so sick killing you.
You fought harder and better though, till Adam went for a lethal strike on Charlie. Without hesitating you took part of the blow for her when pushing her out of the way.
When the carnage and battle was over Charlie went searching for you scared for the worse. When Lucifer chased after her asking what was wrong and saw you barely breathing he was devastated.
You were nursed back to health by the Morningstars for weeks. Never once being allowed to even exist alone.
Once you were okay again and getting ready to re-debut yourself to society Charlie pulled you aside and told you how she would be totally cool with it if you where another mom for her.
When you confronted Lucifer about the weird conversation you definitely saw him turn in to a puddle and disappear.
Slowly though over time Lucifer you and Charlie started making your own little family. You were hesitant especially with Lilith still being out there somewhere but you would fight for what you loved if you had too.
When Lucifer finally confessed his feelings after almost a year and half of you being back in his life he made it a big big deal.
The whole hotel was involved having every guest help surprise you with either old pictures from your angel years together or even some new ones from now.
Once you finally got to Lucifer he did one hell of a showstopping number to confirm what you had begun to suspect.
When you accepted his confession whole heartedly he was so happy and excited that the next day he made a public message to all of hell how lucky he was.
He couldn't be more happy with his new little family, even if Lilith came back he would be happy with you. All three of you could assist Charlie and redeem those in hell together.
#x reader#lunarwritings#moons#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel x reader#hazbin hotel x you#hazbin hotel imagine#Lucifer x reader#Lucifer x you#Lucifer x reader fluff#Lucifer x you fluff#hazbin hotel Lucifer#hazbin Lucifer#alastor Lucifer#Lucifer fluff#Lucifer#Theduckyking#thekingofhell#hazbinhotel#hazbin#hotel hazbin#hazbin hotel headcanon#lucifer hazbin hotel#lucifer morningstar#lucifer headcanons#Sweet innocent ducky king
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Local Sadist caught looking ADORABLE
#how can this man look so innocent#dude started the bloodiest war in history#obey me lucifer#omswd lucifer#obey me ur+#obey me shall we date
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That's Dick Magic, Baby!: Chaggie feat. Lucifer
Niffty: Charlie, I have a question.
Vaggie: No, you can not buy the Roach Blaster 5,000 to commit mass bug genocide.
Charlie: Vaggie, please. (To Niffty) What is it, Niffty?
Niffty: You're a Hellborn, right?
Charlie: Uh... yes?
Niffty: (to Vaggie) And you're an ex-Exorcist angel that was more or less Heaven born?
Vaggie: I- (pauses as she pinches her chin in thought) Huh... I'm actually not sure. I guess so?
Niffty: So, if Heaven born can have babies with humans and other Heaven born, and Hellborn can have babies with other Hellborn, does that mean that you two can have babies?
Angel: (in the distance) Ha! Hahahahahaha!
Charlie: (blushing profusely and plastering her hands to her face) N-Niffty, there's... um... more to making a baby than just being a compatible species.
Niffty: Like what?
Charlie: L-Like.... Um.... Vaggie, help me out here!
Vaggie: (several shades of purple darker from blushing and mumbling in Spanish)
Angel: (shouting from the other room) One of 'em needs a dick, Niffty!
Niffty: Oh, I knew that, but I figured that we're in Hell and Lucifer is literally Charlie's dad. I thought it was common knowledge that dick magic was a thing he could do.
Charlie: Say what now???
Lucifer 🍎: (bursts through the wall like the Kool-Aid Man) Diiiiiiiid somebody say dick magic?!
Charlie: Dad?! That's an actual thing?!
Lucifer 🍎: Of COURSE it's a thing!!! Watch!!! (Snaps his fingers)
Vaggie: Askfbdjsk!!! *POOF!!!* (Crumples to the floor as her wings spring out)
Charlie: Vaggie! (Drops to her knees) Babe! Are you okay?!
Vaggie: (blushing and slightly mortified) I think my insides just became my outsides...
Charlie: You're what? (Notices a bulge in Vaggies' skirt and her horns and tail poof into existence as her eyes turn the same blood red shade of her face) Oh~
Lucifer 🍎: (proudly) See? Dick magic. Now. What exactly were we talking about?
Niffty: I was wondering if Charlie and Vaggie could have a baby.
Lucifer 🍎: (plasters hand to hat) Ho! Um! Huh. T-Thats a good question! I'd assume so since Angel's don't have the same restrictions as sinners. Charlie, dear- (Looks around) Where did she go?
Niffty: She ran up the stairs with her tail dragging Vaggie along like a dog in a leash.
Lucifer 🍎: (silently screams and rushes to the stairs while magically pulling boxes of condoms out of his pockets) Chaaaaarlie!!!! Charlie Bear!!! Charliezard!!! Little Duckie!!! Wait!!! I don't care how adorable your babies would be!!! You need protection!!!!
Angel: (slowly dying from asphyxiation as he laughs)
#hazbin hotel#charlie morningstar#lucifer morningstar#vaggie#dick magic#nifty hazbin hotel#niffty#angel dust#is it crack is its plausible#humor#demon charlie#angel vaggie#lucifer is ready to be a grandpa but just cant bring himself to give up his daughter's innocence yet
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Unfortunately for Lucifer’s self restraint, one of Eden Adam’s favorite games was play-tackling/wrestling
Despite his angelic strength he winds up underneath Adam quite a few times (which I’m sure wasn’t an intentional choice at all /s)
And despite the fact that Adam KNOWS Lucifer is an almost all powerful being for some reason he’s always surprised when Lucifer ends up on top of him, pinning him to the floor
ANON THIS IS LITERALLY JUST MY EDEN ADAMSAPPLE COMIC LMAOOOOOOO
AUUGGHHB I love Eden Adam being a little mischievously playful!! He's innocent, but he's still kind of a shit (endearingly) so he'd play pranks and annoy people on purpose LOL
HEHEHE, of course Lucifer could overpower him easily, but he lets him "beat him" most of the time because it just makes his blood rush and his heart pump HEHEEHEE
#god listen i love Lucifer taking slight advantage on an innocent Adam#WHILE STILL FEELING A LITTLE GUILTY UNDERNEATH#GOD ITS MY ROMAN EMPIRE#hazbin hotel#adamsapple#ask
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An Innocent Mistake (Finale)
"Has Barbatos brought MC back yet?" Mammon demanded. "I got the pictures in from the photoshoot we did!"
"Oooh, lemme see!" Asmodeus chirped, clamouring for the envelope as Mammon held it out of reach. "Gimme!"
"Hell nah! I promised MC we'd look at 'em together! Get yer hands offa me!"
"We kept their outfits, right?" Belphie asked, half asleep on the sofa, legs resting across Beel's thighs as the gluttonous demon ate popcorn beside him. "They looked really cute in that blue silk one."
"What about the armour! Like a mini warrior dragon!" Spewed Levi, cheeks growing pink at the memory. He has his own collection of pictures taken of little dragon MC in all sorts of different outfits. One of his favourites was when he draped thin chains of gold around their horns and wings, making them look like almost godly.
The house of Lamentation has gotten used to many an odd occasion, from curses to video games, and their human inhabitant turning draconic has been no different.
Over the month they've been in this form, MC has grown from the size of a housecat to the size of a medium-large dog, and the brothers have found ways to accomodate.
Satan reads his notes to them so they can't fall behind on classes, Asmodeus paints their claws the same way he'd paint their fingernails, Beel feeds them off his own plate most of the time and Belphie is more then happy to use them as a pillow with or without scales.
Still, they miss MC's voice. As cute as chirping and growling is, it just isn't the same.
The brothers all look up at once at the sound of the front door opening, only to find Lucifer, with no dragon in sight.
He takes note of their disappointment, and laments adding to it.
"I've received some disturbing news. Apparently, Solomon has collected MC from the Demon Lord's Castle. He failed to inform anyone that he's found a way to attempt to turn them back."
"Attempt?" Satan muttered suspiciously.
"That's not a good word." Levi agreed with the sentiment. "What if he turns them into something else, like a-"
"There's no point speculating." The eldest put an end to the panic before the real objections could really start. "I've already contacted Simeon, Solomon isn't at Purgatory Hall, he's taken them somewhere else to reverse the spell."
"And we're just supposed to trust the crazy bastard?!" Mammon wailed.
"Not much choice is there, really." Asmo frowned, folding his arms around himself as he does on fearful occasions. "At least we know the pacts still work, so MC can tell us if things go really wrong...right?"
A heavy silence fell over the room, one nobody broke as they all quietly found perches around the living room to wait, napping, scrolling through DDD's or watching some droning nature documentary that no one really paid attention too.
Not much of anything was said for at least twenty minutes, until the sound of a fresh bag of chips cracked open the silence.
"Isn't this the same narrator who did that short series?"
"Yeah, think he started out with documentaries though." Levi replied without thinking, without realising that speaking was the very voice he's been replaying from his phone at night, the voice they've all missed to death.
It's Beel, whose sensitive nose picks up their scent, who throws himself to his feet, sending popcorn and Belphie flying when he takes off and crashed MC into his infamous bear hug.
The human barely has time to laugh at their reactions as they throw arms and legs around Beel and squeeze tight, relishing the feeling of a proper hug for the first time in weeks.
Belphie is hot on his brother's heels, ending up sandwiching MC between them, as they always do. If MC could still purr, they would have.
"Hey! What's the big idea, scarin' us all like that!" Mammon's objections fell on utterly deaf ears, as the second MC wriggled out from between the twins and hugged him, he couldn't hold onto the mask.
He buried his face in their neck to hide his smile, "reluctantly" wrapping his arms around them to pull them close. "Don't go lettin' that shady sorcerer do that to ya again, ya hear?"
"But Mammon, didn't you think I was cute as a dragon?"
"Shaddup, stupid human."
"Mammon! My turn!" Asmodeus demanded, and soon had MC happily in his arms, spinning happily as he smattered their face with kisses. "Welcome back hon!"
"No ill effects from the transformation?" Satan appeared at Asmo's side, affectionately stroking their hair while Asmo continued to rock them gently back and forth.
MC smiled happily, revelling in the rare display of affection from the Avatar of Wrath. Satan isn't a hugger on the best of days, let alone in front of his brothers.
"I'm fine, was barely disoriented. Pretty sure Solomon would rather I'd have been unconscious though..."
Satan's lips twitched into a smirk. "Something tells me you didn't just say I told you so."
MC's innocent grin said it all.
They sidled away from a reluctant Asmo to high five Levi. "Transformation achieved! I'd have so levelled up by now!"
"You are always OP, Henry!"
"Does anyone know what OP means?"
"Nope. MC does, ask them later."
Finally, the human looked to Lucifer, smiling quietly at them, holding himself back, as usual. During the weeks they'd spent as a dragon, Lucifer had been so careful, so diligent in making sure they stayed safe.
MC didn't care if he was too proud to hug them in front of his brothers, they jumped on him, happily nuzzling into his collar. "Thank you, for looking after me.
"I am...glad you're back." Relief filled his words as he muttered close to their ear. "Next time that sorcerer wants to try a new spell, you cast it on him first."
MC laughed, happily surrounded by some very relieved demons and back in their own skin. "Duly noted. But you're all still in deep shit for letting Barbatos use me as a rat catcher."
"Oh...oh shit."
@ihatecorns
#obey me#an innocent mistake#finally#obey me x mc#obey me lucifer#lucifer x mc#obey me mammon#mammon x mc#obey me leviathan#levi x mc#obey me satan#satan x mc#obey me asmodeus#asmo x mc#obey me beelzebub#beel x mc#obey me belphegor#belphie x mc#obey me solomon
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A New Guest
Imagine, Charlie finds a new sinner and takes him to the hotel.
When he settles down, he starts talking to other residents.
Angle: Sooo, how long are you here?
Sinner: About 20-30 years.
Vaggie: Wow! Where were you all this time??
Sinner: I was lurking around. Wasn't that hard, really. Since I died I don't have to eat.
Husk: Hmm... How did you die?
Sinner: On my death bed, surrounded by my loving family.
Niffty: Why are you here?
Sinner: Pardon me?
Niffty: What did you do to come to hell.
Charlie&Angel: NIFFTY!!
Niffty: What? He doesn't sound like a bad boi. Boring.
Sinner: Heh, a little funny actually.. I was a hunter. I used to hunt for living my whole life, until my kids got out to town and bought me there. Gosh, all that new technology! Made me insane
Alastor: I can understand you, my dear new friend.
Sinner: Thanks pal. Anyway, I was hunting one day, and I heard a shuffle and saw some brown fur. I thought it to be a deer, so I shot it.
Sinner: Unfortunately, it was our local radio host. Such shame... I loved his little podcast... I felt so bad for taking his innocent life and devoted mine to help other people...
Alastor: ...
Husk: That's unfortunate buddy. I guess you've got the highest change to actu- OH MY GOD ALASTOR PUT THE GUY DOWN
Vaggie: ALSTOR PUT OUR GUEST DOWN AAAA
Angel: CHARLIE CALL THE SHORT KING ALASTOR HAS GONE ROGUE HE RIPPED THE NEW GUEST APART
#shitpost#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel lucifer#charlie morningstar#hazbin charlie#niffty#husk#hazbin alastor#hazbin hotel fandom#hazbin hotel alastor#hazbin hotel angel dust#hazbin vaggie#alastor death#for those who don't know#alastor was shot by a hunter#or killed by dogs#not sure actually#different sources have different versions#also he was a radio host (how surprising)#hazbin lucifer#or maybe he got angry that he called him an innocent soul#alastor was a serial killer. innocence#I thought that would be really funny#I mean#the guy killed someone#so he ought to be in hell#and since alastor died a long time ago#the guy might not recognize him as THE radio host#rip#rip new guest
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sweethearts just chilling :]
#gabriel#lil lucifer au#cuphead#mugman#cddwtd#mugman x gabriel#casino cups#they are just chilling#I LOVE THE LINEART I WAS SUFFERING WHILE MAKING IT BUT IT LOOKS SO COOL SDHGFSGJ#MUGSY LOOKS SO INNOCENT DONT TRUST THIS MF HE IS PURE EVIL /J#they are madly in love#coffee husbands#coffe husbands cuphead#gabriel x mugman
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everytime i look in the lilith tag I see so much hate and antagonism for her, like my god. we barely know much about her but some people are just desperate to hate on her while woobifying male characters and I can think of one word why.
#misogyny#the ending scene was complex but im on the train shes gonna be good in the end.#bc i refuse to have another stella that shit sucks#lilith is a representation of feminism and empowerment for women like beyond any fictional media#the fandom and shows portrayal of stella vs characters like valentino is a big highlight into the general misogyny that exists in fandoms#i mean fandoms have a general issue with women who are in the way of their fictional man#and again#that stems from misogyny but whateverr#lilith hazbin#hazbin hotel lilith#lilith#hazbin critical#lucifer is not some innocent man who did nothing wrong anyways#like this is obvious to people right the show is not too subtle on that#like yes hes growing and getting better#but some people would hate lilith ever being depicted as good or if she does end up morally grey as getting a redemption#i wonder what word to why that could be???#azael ranting again#sorry im sick and on meds so i dont know when to keep something in the drafts lol#hazbin hotel
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honestly at this point if i see 'lucifer fan' in bio - i run away and i run even faster if it's radioapple fun 🙃
too tired of 'tall buff stoic manly man and his cute short feminine girlie' i see 99% of time from these people
there's some who only post luci/lilith and these ones are ok (still not everyone tho) but the large part just have veeeeery different view on his character than i do
"too tired of 'tall buff stoic manly man and his cute short feminine girlie'"
Me too, bro. Me too. Why can't we have tall buff stoic masculine girlie and cute short feminine man. Or tall cute stoic man and short masculine girlie. Or short stoic masculine man and cute tall feminine girlie. Let's mix things up a little. Variety is the spice of life.
Apart from him being UwU-ified to Hell and back (lol), I think one of my biggest fanon Lucifer pet peeves is when he's absolved of all his faults and wrongdoings. Like, when the "blame" for Lucifer and Lilith's divorce is put solely on Lillith. Or she's made out to be this super abusive, manipulative partner who's been taking advantage of him since Eden. Like she's the one who kept Charlie and Lucifer apart, and thus is the reason they're so estranged. Like he's this wide-eyed, easily manipulated ray of sunshine who can't defend himself. Like he's this poor little baby man who's never done any wrong, and everyone else just bullies him.
I'm a-okay with Lilith being the big-bad of season 2, or season 3, because evil and/or morally grey female characters fuck yes, but after seeing how much hate she gets (after 5 seconds of screen time at the end of the show) and how much she's blamed for everything wrong in Lucifer's life, it makes me hope that she's not the villain.
A lot of my dislike for Lucifer's fanon characterizations is based on his interactions between Alastor or Lilith, I'm actually just now realizing.
This got a little side-tracked, but yeah, a large part of it really is just having very, very different views about his character.
#LET LUCIFER HAVE FAULTS#LET HIM MAKE MISTAKES#LET ME TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR WRONGDOINGS#he is not innocent#and I doubt he was “blameless” for his and Lilith's divorce#or his and Charlie's estrangement#being depressed does not excuse the repercussions of his actions#I just want some nuance PLEASE#idk im so picky about how characters are written/drawn#i can be so easily turned off from the smallest character change in fics#which is wild because i can read the most OC smut fic and still enjoy it#crazy the workings of fandom#but yeah#no UwU Lucifer allowed on my blog#this is an Anti-UwU Lucifer zone#asks#anon#anonymous#hazbin hotel#alastor#hazbin alastor#lucifer magne#lucifer morningstar#hazbin hotel alastor#lucifer x lilith#lilith morningstar#lilith
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5 Reasons Why ‘Lucifer Was Innocent’ is a Must-Read for Fans of Dark Fantasy
Dark fantasy has always been a shot in the arm for readers thanks to its unrivaled supernatural elements, trauma that prompts moral reflections, and otherworldly narratives. Are you in the process of selecting your next book? If so, you might want to add Lucifer Was Innocent to your list as it is a great representative of the genre. In this blog, we will explore five compelling reasons why this novel is an essential read for fans of dark fantasy.
1. An Intriguing Premise
The thought of Lucifer as the one who has been wronged, a fallen angel who can relate to us, is a tempting one. In Lucifer Was Innocent, the age-old argument of the battle of good and evil is turned upside down. Lucifer is depicted not as the typical villain but as a figure whose interpretation of sin and justice makes you question the existence of such a concept. This unique perspective bring you in and you are eager to find out...
2. Rich, Dark World-Building
World-building is a vital part of any dark fantasy novel and Lucifer Was Innocent is no exception. The book allegorically describes the regions of heaven, the dimensions and different places where angels and demons come from, and the shadows of the earth. These accurately portrayed settings of the realm of the true and false create a world that the reader can interact with, which ultimately enriches the experience. If you are a fan of dark and gothic places, you will be amazed by and entranced by this beautiful, horrible landscape.
3. Complex and Layered Characters
One of the significant advantages of Lucifer Was Innocent is its character development. Each and every character, respectful to angels as well as demons, is moralistic grey. The character of Lucifer is at the cognition of duality, being an example of both repentance and insurrection. The other characters are just as exciting, with the likes of the main character, who you think is one thing at first but then you find out he is someone else, and also the characters whose pasts and motivations are not straightforward and keep changing throughout the story. The lesson of moral relativity, together with an emotional sliding scale, makes it a must-read for those who enjoy complex characters in their fantasy reads.
4. Exploration of Thought-Provoking Themes
Even though Lucifer Was Innocent is a work of art in its own right, its relevance to very real topics like free will, morality, and the nature of evil remains unquestionable. The book illustrates this through Lucifer's travel to the outer limits. So, the novel gives rise to the notion that good and evil may not necessarily be as starkly defined as they appear to be. The book contains a wealth of ideas for readers who like stories that explore deeply philosophical issues and are imbued with an engaging plot.
5. Unpredictable Twists and Turns
The book keeps readers on their toes with its completely unpredictable plot twists. Just when you think you have the story figured out, it suddenly takes you by surprise. This unpredictability is exactly what makes Lucifer Was Innocent a mesmerizing page-turner. The story's perfectly timed revelations and surprises are what let it stay gripping for a long time.
Conclusion: Why You Should Buy It
In conclusion, Lucifer Was Innocent Novel is not just another dark fantasy novel; it's a thought-provoking exploration of morality, identity, and redemption set in a beautifully crafted world. Its layered characters, gripping twists, and rich themes make it a standout title in the genre. If you’re a fan of dark fantasy, this novel is a must-read. You should buy Lucifer Was Innocent from Amazone today and immerse yourself in a story that challenges everything you thought you knew about good and evil.
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Is it bad that I want to see, before Adam starts his redemption arc in late season 2/early season 3, him beating the living shit out of Lucifer?
Like yeah, we love the funny little clown but he royally, catastrophically and biblically fucked Adam over so bad that it had Lu permanently on a no-fly ban to heaven.
He beat up Adam, flexing how he's the superior one. I'd love to see him get a taste of his own medicine.
#I doubt it'll happen since the fandom kind of has it that Lu was innocent and that Adam deserved his life destroyed#But man I'd love to see Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla ass-kicking#hazbin hotel adam#adam hazbin hotel#hazbin adam#hazbin hotel#hazbin lucifer#hazbin hotel lucifer#lucifer morningstar#Hazbin
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So, once again, here I am at 2 AM with another hot take, this time on Lucifer.
If you really look at it, from the very beginning of the story, Lucifer isn't that horrible to us. You might think this is my Lucifucker bias kicking in, but for the first few chapters of the story, Lucifer is somewhat amicable to us being there. Authoritative, autocratic, patronizing, kinda scary, and well, prideful (duh), but otherwise...tolerable and leaves us to our own devices, for the most part.
The only time he begins to show hostility is when he starts to suspect us of having ulterior motives for making pacts with his brothers and getting too involved in his family's business. The two times where he does attack us may seem unwarranted to the player, but narratively, makes sense in regards to Lucifer's characterization.
So yes, it's time to get ready for...
Me analyzing the two times Lucifer tried to kill the ever loving shit out of us because I'm a simp, but also one who can read (somewhat):
So, let's look at Lesson 6 or the first time Lucifer tries to murder bomb us. We, the reader, know that Luke, despite his feelings towards demons, wouldn't intentionally do anything to harm the brothers and obviously, had no idea what he was holding was a grimoire. He was a lost kid who unfortunately, stumbled across something he shouldn't have touched.
Yet from Lucifer's perspective, he sees an angel (beings who he's shown to hold bias against...for obvious reasons) trying to "steal" the very book that if in the wrong hands, could put his entire family in danger, along with the human who's protecting him (who he's shown to be already skeptical of), and his own brother, who hid the angel in their very home and allowed him the opportunity to do so.
Right now, he's not looking at the situation like we are because we already have that information. We know why Luke is in the underground tomb. We know why Beelzebub tried to hide him. But for Lucifer, all he sees is the enemy invading his home. This is the first time we see Lucifer enraged past the point of reason, so much so that if not for Diavolo, he would've killed MC.
Remember the beginning title of Lesson 6: There Are Some Wounds Time Can't Heal. Lucifer's reaction may not have been logical to us, yet considering what we learned about the secret room, about the brothers being former angels and fighting in the Celestial War and Lilith's death from Beelzebub two chapters earlier, it was logical to Lucifer and Lucifer alone. It doesn't excuse him from doing it, but it's an important part of his characterization and purposely done to show how these events still affect him.
The same is true with Lesson 12. Lucifer tries to straight up dead us again, yet only after learning that we disobeyed his warnings about going up into the attic and conversed with Belphegor. Add that with him finally beginning to trust us (even developing small hints of a crush, flirting with us more than once) and the rather heartwarming bonding moment before it and Lucifer's trust is completely broken. Considering we learn later on why Belphegor was locked in the attic and what really happened to Lilith, Lucifer's reaction is not surprising. Not great, but not surprising.
It's then you begin to understand the basis of Lucifer's rage. Before making his vow to Diavolo, Lucifer states that whether demon or angel, he will always stay true to his convictions. Right then and there, we see what truly matters to Lucifer. His love for Lilith, his family. Even if it means sacrificing his pride and serving Diavolo. Even if it means becoming the bad guy to his brothers. He did, especially with the lack of options, what was necessary to save his sister. In turn, said decision also saved his brothers.
And so we see that the only two times where Lucifer is ready to attack is due to the perceived threat against his family, going so far as to risk Diavolo's goals of uniting the three realms not once, but twice, something that he surely knows the consequences for.
So yeah, I write all that to say that you can dislike Lucifer all you want. You can argue about how he punishes his brothers, especially Mammon. You can argue how he's a stubborn ass with the emotional communication skills of a sun-dried turd. You can argue that he's too subservient to Diavolo, to the point where he takes for granted his brothers wishes or feelings (arguments in which I do have opposing opinions on, but to do so will make this post longer than it needs to be).
Yet to call him evil is to ignore so many pieces of his characterization that shows otherwise. How vulnerable he can be, how affectionate, how silly, how he truly loves his brothers and will go out of his way for them, etc.
But to call him good isn't quite right either since well...he has no qulams about killing people, threatening them, attacking his siblings in a rage induced tantrum, lying, locking people in attics...
He's the well-intentioned extremist. The lawful evil. The noble demon. A rabid dog who snaps and barks at the slightest threat but pet him once and tell him he's a good boy and he'll melt in your hand.
Like, I know this shit is long, and I could go even further, but for now I'm going to defend the fact that Lucifer is just...he's a good character, ok? A good, complicated, mess of a character.
And I absolutely love him for it.
#in conclusion your honor he is innocent#but also...eh#obey me#obey me shall we date#obey me lucifer#it's defend lucifer hours#i would do rabid things in parking lots for this man#but also will back over him with my car (affectionately)#trying to do better with analyzing stories and characters#also i hope this was comprehensive#i was really tired when writing it so i hope i didnt miss too much
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Lucifer: Why is everyone so obsessed with top or bottom? Honestly, I’d just be excited to have a bunk bed.
Angel: Angel: I'm gonna tell them. Vaggie: Don't you dare.
#hazbin hotel#lucifer morningstar#hazbin hotel lucifer#angel dust#vaggie hazbin hotel#hazbin incorrect quotes#we love innocent Lucifer ❤️🐤
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seeing a post that gets some things right (interesting complex john thoughts) but other parts dead wrong (bad dean takes) has me like *eye twitch*
#reducing a complicated plot to dean hates all monsters and thinks every monster needs to be killed is um. first of all not even canon#do i need to bring out all the posts abt dean's monster ethics and how he thinks a monster is someone who hurts / kills innocent ppl#and that definition includes humans who do monstrous things too (a theme explored in multiple episodes in s1 !!!!)#but anyways. no he did not think jack should be killed bc he was ~not human~ he thought jack was a Dangerous supernatural being#since ya know. he Was. literally thee most powerful being after god / amara. and they had no idea what he might do. he was not their Baby#or their Kid yet. he was a stranger. a strange new supernatural being that they might have to stop.#s12 finale literally leaves off on a cliffhanger positioning jack to potentially be the new 'Big Bad'#so he's a stranger AND the son of lucifer (they had no idea how that would affect jack yet) AND he seemingly brainwashed cas and kelly#bc remember cas was all about Free Will and Choice and Fuck Heaven / Paradise / Peace#and then suddenly he's going against his core beliefs talking abt paradise on earth and jack needing to fulfill his Destiny like ???#i'd be sus af too if i were dean#dean had no reason to trust jack right off the bat. 'oh but he should've trusted him bc cas did' ok and cas is dead now so ??#then there's the soulless jack stuff which is a whole other complicated beast. and dean was not the only one trying to stop jack then eithe#but anyways. no you cannot reduce dean's complex feelings abt jack to simply 'lol dean hates monsters and wants them all dead'#he doesn't. half his family and friends are literally monsters. anyways.#vic.txt
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