#LL mogadorians

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

i'll be over here like vatborn have ✨️ ZOOMIES 😍 ✨️ and then the zoomies will be to Bite Murder Kill civilians

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

FSJDJDJSMSJDJFJ I KNEW PARTS OF A FEW OF THESE THINGS BUT OTHER STUFF I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT HOLY SHIT. THIS IS INCREDIBLE THANK YOU I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUNNIEST PART IS HERE

also,

oh my fucking GOD. i had never noticed that beyond some of the overarching antisemitic tropes like the Global Alien Diaspora Conspiracy thing--i'd always read adam's novellas as a really ham-handed metaphor for Queerphobic Right-Wing Evangelical Community--but now that you point it out i am starting to See It and WOW THAT MAKES SO MANY THINGS SO VERY VERY MUCH WORSE

mr. frey's wild ride never ends i am obsessed. i am Obsessed

Cannot stress enough how much of just. An asshole character James Frey is as a person it's incomprehensible how he exists as an entity

- He originally had a writing partner for Lorien Legacies who he shared the pen name "pittacus lore" with until two books in, when he pulled the rug out from under Jobie Hughes copyright wise and did it so thoroughly that Hughes can't even discuss the books on social media anymore

- All of his books come out of this intern ghost writer factory called "Factor Five" and there's no official record of who wrote what and who authored what side story and who edited which thing and I don't think they know. I think everything just gets passed around in giant paper stacks

- He's a racist idiot who doesn't know any of the four countries along the Himalayas exist. Especially not Nepal

- He blocked people on twitter for discussing ships back in the day which is hysterical

- HOW COULD I ALMOST FORGET THE MOST BONKERS THING. He wrote an autobiography called "A Million Little Pieces" about his battle with addiction and impulse control and his health...that was entirely made up. None of it is true NOT A SINGLE WORD. THIS BOOK MADE IT ONTO OPRAH'S BOOK CLUB. HE LIED TO OPRAH'S FACE!! I forget why he admitted it but subsequent printing have a label on the front marking it as fiction. Imagine bullshitting a sob story that hard

- He almost won a "Worst Erotica Award" in 2017 for his book "Katerina." There is a character that's killed early on in LL named "Katarina." And yes I read parts of "Katerina" and YES it's the same character. You can unpack that I'm not doing it

- Did I mention this dude makes most of his money off of copyright schemes? Because he does. That's what his writing company is

I know there's stuff I'm forgetting and there's things in LL I don't wanna unpack I just need you guys to know that this man makes no sense

[loricconfessions]

submitted by: anonymous

[13yearsoflorien]

July 30th prompt

If you were in the LL universe, would you be Loric, Mogadorian, half alien, a Human Garde, or human?

[aroace-number-eight]

More lists for myself because I am a forgetful person and I need to keep things in one place

AUs that I should look over sometime

Sirina Rapunzel AU (made with adamussutekh)

Age swap AU

Legacy swap AU

Witch AU

Ethan raises Five AU

Better Cêpan Rey AU

Avatar: The Last Airbender AU (made with adamussutekh)

Genshin Impact AU

Genshin Impact crossover AU??

The Umbrella Academy AU

The Umbrella Academy crossover AU

Five switch LL x TUA AU

Raiding Area 51 AU

Adam saves Maggie AU

HGA Coffeeshop AU

Pokemon Trainer AU

Pokemon Gym Leaders AU

College AU (made with aliensaregay, goddamnalientourists, and adamussutekh)

Loric Pantheon Deity AU

Elder AU

Pittacus killed Setràkus AU

Eight goes to college AU (more into adamussutekh territory because they know more about how to write parts of it)

Nine and Five friendship AU

Marina runs a diner AU

Marina Five and Ella are burnt out creatives visiting the same coffeeshop AU

Einar troupe assassin AU

Pirate and Mermaid and Merchant AU

Seven Deadly Sins AU

Demons and Exorcists AU

Hospital AU

Poker Champion Eight AU???

Eight and Five Comedian AU

Actor AU

Siren Nive AU??

Circus AU

Villain Five AU

Theater AU

Dead Garde Ghosts AU

Demigod Garde AU (consult with michaelyew)

PJO meets HGA AU

Garde visit CHB by accident AU

Road trip AU??

Samix Disney's Atlantis AU

Dancer AU??

Fantasy AU??

Maid Cafe AU???

Eight Reincarnation AU

Eight Resurrection but he's very traumatized about it AU

Voltron AU

Voltron crossover where the paladins return to Earth and see the whole Mogadorian thing going on AU

Free! Iwatobi Swim Club AUu

Nive Boxing AU

Henri/Malcolm parent the Garde AU

Found in Florida AU

Mamma Mia AU

Pittacus/Celwe/Setràkus and Lorien isn't killed AU

Cohn Dragonborn AU

Cohn Vemon AU (consult gentles-and-ladymen)

Will update later

[aroace-number-eight]

@bisexual-coffee-addict

Yooo new fanfic prompt just dropped

Enemies to lovers "who did this to you?" about scars? Great, of course. However, I raise you this: "I did this to you."

[wannabeloric]

Hello people in the internet! I would just like to share my Lorien Legacies Google Drive library with y’all who are interested to read this AMAZING series!😁 Ive labeled everything for you guys already so you may know the order of the books without the need to search for it🙂 I’ve included all of the LL book series Im aware of (if I lack something please inform me so I may add😁) including the main LL series, The Lost Files, The LL Reborn Series, and The Legacy Chronicles.

For those of you who dont know what goes on in the Lorien Legacies series, it is basically about a small group of teenagers who are gifted with cool powers called legacies. They come from the planet Lorien which unfortunately has been destroyed by another alien race called the Mogadorians. The Mogadorians wish to eliminate all the Loric that have been evacuated to Earth. The Loric have been in hiding for a decade now from the Mogs, training and developing their legacies until it is time to fight back. Eventually, the Mogs have caught up with the Loric who were in hiding, slaying them one by one in order. It was time for the Loric to unite and find each other in order to avenge the planet Lorien, and protect their new home: Earth.

Attached below is the shareable link to the LL library I created. Enjoy future and fellow Lorics!!😁💙

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jE98nNQOgV5ugN4KmTKOiQJtHkoFRT8E

#TheLegaciesLive

[officialpittacuslore]

LL AU where Good Hentai prevented the Mogadorians from killing the Lorics and the Humans

[wereewtrrrtr]

(Best Seller) The Fall of Five (Lorien Legacies, #4) \Book By Pittacus Lore\

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Read Online and Download The Fall of Five (Lorien Legacies, #4) .Alternate cover for this ISBN can be found hereThe Garde are finally reunited, but do they have what it takes to win the war against the Mogadorians?John Smith?Number Four?thought that things would change once the Garde found each other. They would stop running. They would fight the Mogadorians. And they would win.But he was wrong. After facing off with the Mogadorian ruler and almost being annihilated, the Garde know they are drastically unprepared and hopelessly outgunned. Now they?re hiding out in Nine?s Chicago penthouse, trying to figure out their next move.The six of them are powerful, but they?re not strong enough yet to take on an entire army?even with the return of an old ally. To defeat their enemy, the Garde must master their Legacies and learn to work together as a team. More importantly, they?ll have to discover the truth about the Elders and their plan for the Loric survivors.And when the Garde receive a sign from Number Five?a crop circle in the shape of a Loric .

Pittacus Lore book The Fall of Five (Lorien Legacies, #4).

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

i keep having Thoughts about how in so many ways LL has so much potential to be a really hard-hitting, messy, no-punches-pulled exploration of what i call moral agency: not the agency to act on your beliefs, but the agency to have those beliefs at all. like, if you're being abused into internalizing a set of beliefs, or indoctrinated in such a way as to make you resistant to outside perspective, or having relevant information withheld from you even if you would be looking for it... you don't have nearly as much choice in the matter of what you believe as someone who isn't stuck in that position.

and like. the central antagonists alone are literally a massive, horrifically abusive cult that spans generations. and i really wish they had actually followed through on that, and done so with compassion for victims who might need to be held accountable, instead of treating them with hatred and dehumanization.

(and also, y'know. hadn't treated some characters who did bad things as if they had much, MUCH more agency, moral or otherwise, than they did at literally any point. COUGH FIVE COUGH COUGH COUGH)

there's just. so so so much interesting stuff to be dug into there, in a way that's deeply fundamental to the narrative where even a lot of stories about moral agency aren't, and i really wish i could scrape enough brain cells together to talk about it properly

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

i think one of the biggest reasons i refuse to take anything LL presents to me in good faith morality-wise is that just, everything about the vatborn--completely leaving aside the trueborn or mogadorians as a whole--is a hundred percent on par with what happened to lorien for sheer scale and depth of tragedy and horror. in very different ways, yes--apples to oranges, i'm not going to say one is worse--but on par.

and not only do neither the heroes or the narrative ever acknowledge this. they act like it's a good thing.

[cw: genocide, war crimes, racism, fascism, slavery, torture, child abuse, dehumanization, apologia for all of it after the cut. basically, the usual lmao]

or at least, a totally neutral and casual one (although they will still never call it what it is by name). the vatborn, who are universally abused, beaten, tortured, brainwashed child soldiers and actual fucking chattel slaves, aren't people. they are subhuman. their suffering doesn't matter. they can't be rehabilitated for any kind of peaceful life. they are barely more than mindless animals. they are vermin to be disposed of without a thought, while their actual slavers get far more mercy, compassion, and humanization than they do (which holy shit is saying something).

the only, ONLY person in the entire series who thinks it matters that they're people; that it's fucked up to have been taught that killing them in front of him as a small child was unremarkable; who feels uncomfortable with ordering them around and is worried about getting one of them in trouble; who questions the ideology he grew up in that said otherwise; is a deluded, naive, easily-manipulated, selfish race traitor who is treated with rabid murderous hatred for it for the rest of his life.

they and their culture--yes, culture, we see that they have developed some of their own under the trueborns' noses--are eradicated from existence because they 'didn't know any better,' and no one bats an eyelash before or after. it's fine because without their extinction they'd eradicate everyone else. and the method of their creation, both knowledge and resources, is lost.

there will never be another living vatborn again.

all of this is true, say the writers. all of this is fine. and to that i say: does any of that rhetoric sound familiar?

like. honestly, there are some REALLY strong foils and parallels to be made between the loric and the vatborn, right down to the scars versus the tattoos:

(which, of course, no one has jack shit to say about. in the slightest. then or ever. 🙃)

what they should have done--and i don't mean 'here's a way they might have handled it,' i mean the only thing they could have done, period--to make any of the protagonists actually decent people would have been to make them have a massive group-wide crisis the INSTANT they found out what the vatborn are. that should have been one of THE central conflicts in the series from that point forward. 'we are having to slaughter child soldier slaves, who have no choice in the matter, en masse in self-defense. we have no idea how to make it stop without letting ourselves be overrun. we have been doing this for a long time and we never even knew. fuck. jesus fuck' should absolutely fucking haunt a good majority of your protagonists, even if it takes until after the war when survival mode disengages for it to hit, or else you have a cast full of just plain evil cunts and i am not going to root for them no matter how many planets they save. fuck that.

like. for all the writers and characters hammer on about how ~we're not like them uwu,~ they ARE. the perspective we're meant to sympathize with IS the mogadorians, just reskinned with craft-beer-and-brick-pizza-ovens-appreciate-nature-uwu neoliberal fascism instead of ham-handed right-wing stereotypes.

(which, the 'respect for the planet and nature' thing? bullshit. the entity colonizes and terraforms the ENTIRE EARTH. it does this without asking a single ass human if they're okay with it; marina even points this out, which is immediately dismissed lol. the entity destroys pretty much the entire fossil record of the earth, all the way down. the writers don't give a fuck about respecting or preserving nature. it's just a cover for the sky-high platter of genocidal ecofascism they're trying to push through.)

one of the central themes of lorien legacies is supposed to be 'mourn the dead, fight like hell for the living.' and one of, again, the central conflicts of the series from RoS onward should have been the moral dilemma of realizing that the vatborn are some of the living to fight like hell for, and having no fucking idea how to do that without giving everything else up for lost. instead the moral becomes 'fight like hell for the living, as long as they look enough like me and aren't Icky and i don't have any personal baggage about them, and also as long as they came out of a vagina.'

and like. the really insidious thing about how they frame the mogs versus everyone else--how they try to excuse and distract you from the evil shit the protagonists and their buddies say and do--is that they go 'well i mean sure, they're racist and ableist and genocidal and [laundry list of awful], and have less than no basic fucking decency or compassion toward the Acceptable Group of People, but also they're kind and caring and heroic and nice to other people!' whereas the mogs read as the authors having looked up a Traits of Fascist Societies checklist to hammer into their story without actually understanding how fascism works.

actual fascist societies aren't cartoonishly hateful, joyless, loveless, and sadistically rubbing their hands together over their Evil Plotting on every level of society, every day, with everyone around them. like. it doesn't fucking happen. i don't care how cultish it is, i don't care how rabidly hateful you can whip a movement up to be, you can fuck a society and its norms up horrifically but you CANNOT do that with 99% total success rate on that scale. you know what happens with actual fascism? with hate groups, with colonialism, with genocide?

most of them are, in some aspects of their lives, 'good people.' they pet puppies, they're loving spouses and parents, they're kind and respected members of their community. i'm nice, they think. i'm a Good Person. i care.

and they are completely caught off guard when they are held accountable for the other things they did with their lives, because it doesn't fucking matter how many puppies you pet when you make yourself complicit in genocide. you extend basic human decency to your family and people you happen to find likeable and acceptable, and none of whom you have emotional baggage toward as a group? cool motive, still a war criminal, still blood on your hands.

which, by the way, is another vile thing they try to push through here. 'i'm racist because muh war trauma so i get a blank check to commit atrocities, cut me some slack' is, y'know. famously not a justification used for any horrific mass war crimes in countries invaded by, say, the U.S. in the last few decades alone. vietnam? iraq? are those some kind of chopped liver?

and the fact that they try to hide this shit behind 'well they're genocide survivors and teenagers, you can't expect them to be mature about their war trauma 🥺' is just contrived bullshit to get away with this rhetoric, which is even more obvious when every now and then they try to act like the characters are in their mid-20s or something instead of, you know. 15-18. teenagers are not the ones making these calls irl, pal. they're not the ones devising war tactics or taking out tons of people by themselves in one go. they're not the ones making legislation about what to do with the enemies after the war. are there garde who have to wear a bikini for their photosynthesis legacy too, by any chance

(this is an ESPECIALLY bad look in the context of the vietnam war in particular, considering how frighteningly, violently, genocidally racist these books are toward every fucking east asian country in their line of sight lmao. like holy shit dude it's BAD and this is just another shit in the bucket)

(ETA: HOLY SHIT WOW THE VIETNAM PARALLEL MAKES THE THING WITH JOHN CATCHING A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF MOGS OFF GUARD TO INCINERATE THEM ALL WITH HIS FLAMETHROWER POWERS--BECAUSE 'NOW THEY KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE,' NO LESS--SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE EL EM AY OH)

anyway yeah, despite supposedly being a critique of fascism these books are fascist as shit, and it is impossible for me to look at the protagonists being Caring and Compassionate, and Fighting for Peace and Justice and Preservation of All Things Good in the World, without just seeing this:

as usual i have many, many more thoughts about this, and as usual they are for other posts because this one is hella long already, but tl;dr the vatborn deserved better and are pretty much the perfect distillation of why my approach to this series' authors and what they are trying to communicate with their story is 'stay back slut' lmao

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

reading literally anything to do with john and his balls-out violent racism (and ableism!) toward both adam and mogadorians in general from roughly RoS onward like

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

so i've never really posted on here about him i don't think, but i dug up some art of one of my motherfuckers, korthec. he started life as a vatborn OC, then got adapted for tales of arcadia years later, and now i'm adapting him back; as a result the only art i have of him is akiridion!korthec, so while i plan to redesign him for LL-verse again, in the meantime have A He.

he is a nasty bastard who loves war crimes, murder, and cannibalism, he is husband, and i love him. thank you for your time

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

i've said it before, but the more i think about it the more i pin down exactly what the biggest fundamental issue is with lorien legacies, and that is that it tries to mix its metaphors while also pretending to be an explicit recreation of Certain Real World Dynamics where you really need to know what the fuck you are saying.

like, fantasy metaphors don't always have to be a 1:1 for real world historical events. you need to very carefully examine the real-world components of what you're portraying--what you're saying--with said metaphors, respectively and in the context of each other, that's true. they can even shed some interesting light on each other--the situation with the cêpans on lorien before the war is an interesting inversion of ableism as a structure on earth, and it's interesting to examine how non-fantasy, non-inverted ableism nests into that. and setrákus' whole thing could be a good commentary on Certain Parts of the transhumanist movement that need addressing, and on cultural appropriation, and on how scratch an ableist and you'll find a racist and vice versa, because Fascists is the Same. and the care involved in this process, of course, goes many times over when the thing you're tackling is a heavy subject like genocide.

but if you're drawing a straight, explicit-or-borderline-explicit line directly between your fantasy metaphor and real-world history? hooooly fuck you need to be SO on top of recreating that history as accurately as you can. you do NOT want to fuck up your commentary on What Happened Irl by erasing the contributing factors, putting blame in the wrong places, or perpetuating lies about what was happening in order to justify or perpetuate it or cover it up. if your villains are a ham-handed metaphor for manifest destiny YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT MANIFEST DESTINY IS, HOW IT HAPPENED, ITS AFTERMATH, AND ITS GOALS.

LL doesn't just drop the ball here, it spikes the ball so hard it noclips into the backrooms. even if they had had an ounce of self-awareness about the fantasy dynamic they were creating with lorien, mogadore, and by extension earth, they absolutely should not have brought real-world history into it to make their goofy evil cartoon aliens Deep. it's fascinating to pick apart as a trainwreck but jeeeeeeesus, man.

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

the books trying to make the mogs threatening and uncanny so you won't like them, or be uncomfortable about them dying: they're HUGE and SCARY and GROSS and have LOTS OF SHARP TEETH

me:

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

Cone shaped

ALL HAIL THE REX CONE. ALL LOVE HIM. THE LAW DEMANDS.