#LISTEN LET ME HAVE THIS

[raayllum]

2x09 / 4x04 / 6x03 / 6x05

[glambots]

Yes yes, Moon with sharp teeth. All good, very nice.

Consider: Sun with sharp teeth.

[crow-posting]

Okay. So. I saw this post by @seraphstation which basically confirmed my thoughts about the Collapse lasting ~1,600 years. But it got me wondering again: how long were the Awoken in the Distributary before they left with Mara Sov?

Since time in the Distributary passes differently than time on Earth, some have theorized that the Awoken were hundreds of thousands, even millions of years old. But while the Distributary was 12.1 billion years old, the Awoken were not, and Mara was described as "confident in her centuries of purpose" after her return to the Sol system. So it seems more likely that the original Awoken (the 891 and the 40,000) were only a few thousand years old at the time of their return [early City Age].

While I'm not good enough to suggest an exact number, there are a few things I noticed: first, Alis Li rules for an age - roughly 1,500 years* - then another age after the Theodicy War. Then Nguya Pin becomes queen, and at some point in her reign [after a rhetorical "nine and ninety years"], begins a project to "identify whatever debt the Awoken owed the cosmos." A brief 30 years later, as Devna Tel succeeds Nguya Pin, Mara and her followers make their exodus.

*Note: an "age" isn't defined by a specific length, but several real-life ages [Bronze Age, Middle Ages, Ancient China, Roman Empire] lasted between 1,000 and 2,000 years. So 1,500 seems like an appropriate aggregate.

Once outside the Distributary, the Awoken are immediately divided again and Mara builds the Dreaming City in response. This prompts a visit by the Ancients, who seem unimpressed by her - an odd reaction to someone if they had also been around for millennia, but fairly normal if they were much younger.

All of this, plus Mara/Uldren/Sjur's "young adult"-like behavior up until the establishment of the Reefborn, leads me to believe that the original Awoken were at least 4,000 years old - but no more than 7,000 years old - by the time they returned. Could I be completely off-base with my estimate? Absolutely, but it's the one that makes the most sense to me.

And I'm gonna roll with it until Bungie tells me otherwise, because Avraam (my Warlock) being the Legolas of my group is the funniest thing I can imagine.

[nervocat]

I'm already coming up with platonic fic ideas for Jade and Floyd..........

[drewtanakagf]

Hazel is Hatian btw... if you even care....

[lazylittledragon]

can't believe we're all adults being forced into the club penguin level of censorship in 2024

[saragrosie]

Sketching while streaming s5...

Jonathan Sims I will learn to draw you (this is my doing. I could draw him however I want and I choose to stick with an image of him in my brain that is difficult for me to draw. Masochism.)

Not s5 Mahtins below I enjoyed drawing cuz hes neat:

(Edit: I yassified Martin in the do not separate cuz I wanted his hair fluffier)

[evan-buck]

LOKI 2x06 Glorious Purpose

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

You keep telling yourself that Namari.

[machinerot]

[sandflakedraws]

re : how each brother reacts learning that they can't go back

you'll have to pry the "all the Brozone Bros knew what happened at the tree" headcanon outta my cold, dead dead dead hands.

[inkskinned]

one of the things that's the most fucking frustrating for me about arguing with climate change deniers is the sheer fucking scope of how much it matters. sweating in my father's car, thinking about how it's the "hottest summer so far," every summer. and there's this deep, roiling rage that comes over me, every time.

the stakes are wrong, is the thing. that's part of what makes it not an actual debate: the other side isn't coming to the table with anything to fucking lose.

like okay. i am obviously pro gun control. but there is a basic human part of me that can understand and empathize with someone who says, "i'm worried that would lead to the law-abiding citizens being punished while criminals now essentially have a superpower." i don't agree, but i can tell the stakes for them are also very high.

but let's say the science is wrong and i'm wrong and the visible reality is wrong and every climate disaster refugee is wrong. let's say you're right, humans aren't causing it or it's not happening or whatever else. let's just say that, for fun.

so we spend hundreds of millions of dollars making the earth cleaner, and then it turns out we didn't need to do that. oops! we cleaned the earth. our children grow up with skies full of more butterflies and bees. lawns are taken over with rich local biodiversity. we don't cry over our electric bills anymore. and, if you're staunchly capitalist and i need to speak ROI with you - we've created so many jobs in developing sectors and we have exciting new investment opportunities.

i am reminded of kodak, and how they did not make "the switch" to digital photography; how within 20 years kodak was no longer a household brand. do we, as a nation, feel comfortable watching as the world makes "the switch" while we ride the laurels of oil? this boggles me. i have heard so much propaganda about how america cannot "fall behind" other countries, but in this crucial sector - the one that could actually influence our own monopolies - suddenly we turn the other cheek. but maybe you're right! maybe it will collapse like just another silicone valley dream. but isn't that the crux of capitalism? that some economies will peter out eventually?

but let's say you're right, and i'm wrong, and we stopped fracking for no good reason. that they re-seed quarries. that we tear down unused corporate-owned buildings or at least repurpose them for communities. that we make an effort, and that effort doesn't really help. what happens then? what are the stakes. what have we lost, and what have we gained?

sometimes we take our cars through a car wash and then later, it rains. "oh," we laugh to ourselves. we gripe about it over coffee with our coworkers. what a shame! but we are also aware: the car is cleaner. is that what you are worried about? that you'll make the effort but things will resolve naturally? that it will just be "a waste"?

and what i'm right. what if we're already seeing people lose their houses and their lives. what if it is happening everywhere, not just in coastal towns or equatorial countries you don't care about. what if i'm right and you're wrong but you're yelling and rich and powerful. so we ignore all of the bellwethers and all of the indicators and all of the sirens. what if we say - well, if it happens, it's fate.

nevermind. you wouldn't even wear a mask, anyway. i know what happens when you see disaster. you think the disaster will flinch if you just shout louder. that you can toss enough lives into the storm for the storm to recognize your sacrifice and balk. you argue because it feels good to stand up against "the liberals" even when the situation should not be political. you are busy crying for jesus with a bullhorn while i am trying to usher people into a shelter. you've already locked the doors, even on the church.

the stakes are skewed. you think this is some intellectual "debate" to win, some funny banter. you fuel up your huge unmuddied truck and say suck it to every citizen of that shitbird state california. serves them right for voting blue!

and the rest of us are terrified of the entire fucking environment collapsing.

[bacchuschucklefuck]

they licensed his ass

my finished piece of the FWMS (official name definitely 100%) thing we started a few days ago! I had fun I hope folks had and/or continue to have fun with the sketch as well.

[ariaste]

Me: [sees everyone talking about how Assad Zaman was "literally" coming up with RPF about himself and Eric Bogosian in an interview]

Me: ah, fandom's doing its little "interpret an innocent comment in Some Kind Of Way" thing again, let's go find the video and do our own critical thinking about what was actually said here--

Assad: What would happen if I said-- [words that cannot be interpreted as anything but RPF fanfic]

Me:

Me: ok fandom gets a pass on this one actually

[asukachii]

"Why don't YOU drive for once?! Ya idiot!"

"BECAAAAUUSE! I... can't.. drive these things!"

[bonus]

(I don’t like putting watermarks so, PLEASE, if you want to post these gifs somewhere GIVE CREDITS! Also, don’t use them in edits/videos. Thanks~)

[dolotonglo]

so that popularity poll huh