#Kyuhyun solo concert
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#i took a step back from so//shi a few years ago watching the ridiculous lengths other split management groups go to to show up together#and sorry to be me but suju especially. members will be in the hospital or have pre-scheduled solo concerts#yet have they shown up for official concerts as anything less than 8 since kyu was discharged#busy as hell sick and injured as hell but always together#hurts like fuck to see hyo being the only one consistently showing up#i understand tae is pissed right now but yoona and yuri are also still under sm? why not at least lil touch#with taeyeon's and sunny's lines redistributed#i saw a bunch of sones on twit hyping the girls up for doing the pink blood photoshoot#and great awesome#but hyoyeon was on that stage alone. idk.#hard to stay insane about a group that doesnt prioritize the group#when you can wait 10 minutes during the concert#and see 4 other groups that put the group first#idk. they were one of my first ults. lion heart was the first album i bought. sas.#sad lmao#says kenna#also sorry i really am making this about sj too much but#just remembered kyuhyun had a musical performance -the same day- as the concert and he did both#and zhoumi was gonna have a solo stage for the concert and asked to have it changed to an sjm one#that he had to coordinate on his own#and he did. ??#im not mad at wendy for not coming in on days she told management she would be unavailable#and tbh i dont have a clue what's going on with exo at any time nor shinee currently#but damn!!
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Oh, and the mingling continues. Doyoung joined the dinner after Minho's concert. Do went specifically (he attended the 1st day concert, and the dinner was after the 2nd day).
-Minho -Taemin -Key -Chanyeol -Doyoung
Mayhaps Do had time to eat and catch up with Kyuhyun on the 1st day. Although they should meet during the musical's rehearsals, so maybe it wasn't nesessary.
Don't remember anything with Chanyeol. They cross paths as SM artists, sure. Chanyeol did baby butt bread pose.
Same with Taemin. Only the food support for SuperM and congratulations for Shinee's anniversary from Do, and Taemin thanking him.
So, lots of people to charm in person~
Surelly Doyoung will sing poems about everyone's recent solo albums (all 5 released them this year), and how Haechan likes Taemin.
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Wow what a throwback to see the DBSK video on my dash!! I wasn't there for their debut but I was a fan all through high school, even had the mirotic CD and DVD tour that I sold a while ago. I wouldn't call myself a Kpop fan though as I've never listenned to or followed any Kpop group aside from them. Jaejoong was my fav so I followed Jyj for a while, jae's carreer in dramas and had his first solo album before life got busy and then I moved on to other fandoms. I remember seeing and downloading so many videos from them back then from live performances and concerts to TV appearances and those few cringe dramas in their early days that included fangirls screams haha. I also remember about yunjae but wasn't that invested as I didn't have tumblr or any social media then just youtube and forums for dl links. Anyway it's 5am and I can't sleep even though my alarm will only ring in two hours but your post brought me a smile and a wave of nostalgia so thank you!!
HELLO!!! Don’t worry this didn’t get eaten I’ve just been savoring this message so much. Yunjae was the first pairing to get me into RPF (and obviously I also shipped Junsu/Yoochun - I forget their ship name)
God nothing did shipping like Gen 2 kpop. They had WHOLE DRAMAS dedicated to the shipping 😭
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And DBSK wasn’t even the TOP CULPRIT. The Suju shipping dramas were ICONIC I always watch the Kyumin one when I visit one of my friends because like! The intrigue! The mystery! MURDERER KYUHYUN
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No one knows what we HAD back in 2005-2009 🥲
#obviously the best kpop variety show of all time was explorers of the human body#watching 13 men get tortured eating ghost peppers cannot be beat
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Ahh you remember 🥹 hopefully good things not the cringe hahaha.
Ohmygosh v2 is absolutely STUNNING!!! I've seen so many customize theirs but 1. I'd be to scared that I would ruin it and 2. It's stunning enough as is! Haha. Have you seen them in concert?
What other groups are you into? Sorry I'm asking so many questions haha 😊
i feel like everyone was at least a little cringe Back In The Day, i sure was HAHA :'D but lots of good things!!!!!!!!! 💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞
RIGHT???? V2 IS THE PRETTIEST 😭😭😭😭💞💞💞 i, too, am too scared to attempt customization for any of my lightsticks tbh they cost enough that i don't wanna take a chance of messing them up HAHAHA the most i've done is add some little fake flowers in the dome of my v1 caratbong :'D i did buy some cute removable bows for them though!!
and yes!!!!!!! i've done all of their online concerts/fanmeets but i finally got to actually see them Live And In Person last summer :'DD i went to two of the Be The Sun shows!!
tiny tiger!hoshi got to come to both of them bc he is Adventure Buddy :')
i cry every time i think about this tbh 😭😭😭💞💞💞💞
ooooo other groups! my other favorites are GOT7 and SHINee!! i listen to a bunch of other groups randomly but got7 and shinee (and their solo stuff) are the only other ones i really buy anything for/at least moderately keep up with 😅 i also love roy kim and iu and snsd and vixx and kyuhyun is my ballad king but honestly i have weird habits when it comes to listening to music and so it's mostly svt 😂😂💖💙
ALSO NO DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR QUESTIONS, i don't mind!!! questions are fun!!! hahaha
#answer#anon#also i just realized typing that out that i don't actually keep up with many new groups 😅#i'll listen to whatever pops up if i'm letting youtube shuffle or something#but i'm old school and still use my ipod so i usually just stick on my svt playlist HAHA#got7 and shinee are beloveds though
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Kyuhyun performing “Lover’s Concerto” Live Concert on the 6th February 2022.
Kyuhyun interprétant le Concert en Direct “Lover’s Concert” le 6 Février 2022.
#Kyuhyun#Performing#Performance#Perform#Lover's Concerto#Live Concert#Live#Concert#6th February#Solo Concert#Super Junior#SJ#Suju#ELF#Everlasting Friends#Kpop
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161029 #曺圭贤# SOLO演唱会Day1 :芝声来了
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SSK: Kyuhyun is one person who isn’t much different from television & in real life. he’s nice, thinking of his seniors (someone old like me)
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Super Show 9 fucked me up. So incredibly good. My first super junior concert was ss4 in 2011. Back then, d&e didn't exist and no one had had a solo debut yet. The only subunits were sj-t, sj-h and sj-m — the only surviving part of those units is rokkugo. Since then sj has put out so much music. D&E officially debuted after their ss4 stage, kyuhyun, ryeowook and yesung had solo debuts, kry released an album and even eunhyuk had a solo debut with "be". Watching ss9 last night, this all hit me and I felt such gratitude and pride towards super junior for continuing to create and perform such amazing music.
#super junior#super show 9#ss9#Ryeowook#yesung#kyuhyun#donghae#eunhyuk#leeteuk#shindong#siwon#슈퍼주니어#슈퍼쇼
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DATING TVXQ A⇴Z HEADCANON ⇴ Shim Changmin
A ⇴ AFFECTION
His height meant Changmin was a great hugger with you. He’d bundle you tightly in his arms and make you feel tiny against his chest. He’d always rest over you and make sure that he emphasised the height difference between you both too.
B ⇴ BEFORE DATING
You ended up dropping your bag as you were walking one afternoon when a figure knelt down to help pick up your items. When you came face to face with Changmin, your stomach instantly dropped as you were drawn to his smile and his eyes. He quickly introduced yourself as you thanked him for helping you out.
C ⇴ CONFESSION
It took quite a while for Changmin to feel confident enough to confess to you, he knew he had to be sure that you were happy and willing to take on his crazy world and do it with a smile on your face. He was at an age where if he started a relationship, he was in it for the long run, so it was only when he was sure that he could see a future with you as well, did he finally decide the time was right to confess to you.
D ⇴ DATES
Changmin’s a huge movie buff, and so many of your dates will often involve films. Some nights the two of you will head to the movies with far too much popcorn in your hands to watch the new release that has just come out. Other times you’ll lay in bed and watch a movie once he comes home from his schedule to help the two of you wind down before bed. But your favourite time with movies is when the two of you have days off, making yourselves comfortable in the living room and having a marathon of all your favourites.
E ⇴ EXPERIENCE
Being so focused on his career for so many years, Changmin had very little experience when it came to dating, although he loved to tell you about his scandal with Minho all the time. When he first told you about how the media mistook Minho for a girl in his company at Yunho’s solo concert, you definitely saw the funny side. Even now, you often reminded Changmin that he’d made a girl, Minho, very happy before and so there was no doubt in your mind that he was also going to make you a very happy girl too.
F ⇴ FIGHTING
Changmin is very much like a ticking time bomb when it comes to arguments, he doesn’t get mad often, he’s usually very good at holding his temper and biting his tongue. However, as his frustrations begin to build and his tongue swells from how long he’s bitten down on it, he’ll eventually find himself keeping up a storm and letting go of all of his frustrations. It’s definitely a shock to you when his temper finally blows, but you can only sit back and let him get everything off his chest. Once he’s done, and calm, he’ll apologise of course, and promise to try and keep himself better composed the next time you argue.
G ⇴ GETTING TO KNOW HIS FAMILY
Introducing you to his two sisters spelt out trouble for Changmin, the three of you often ganged up on him and bonded over all of the stories that you had to share about him. Whilst Changmin loved that you three got on so well, he definitely didn’t enjoy being embarrassed by the three of you time and time again.
H ⇴ HOME
He was quite keen to move you into his home after a few months in your relationship. Whilst he liked his own space and his apartment, he would never say no to having someone else there to enjoy the space with him. He made several changes to his apartment too to make sure that it felt like your home as well.
I ⇴ “I LOVE YOU”
Changmin was the first one of the two of you to say, ‘I love you,’ after you surprised him at a TVXQ show. He was overwhelmed to say the least to see you stood before him that the words came from his mouth before he even had chance to think. You were surprised momentarily, before assuring him that you felt the same.
J ⇴ JEALOUSY
When he was younger Changmin would have probably got jealous, but as he’d got older and matured, jealousy is a feeling he fails to feel anymore. He trusts you and those around you, knowing that you’d never do anything to make him jealous anyway. He’s adult enough too that it he does feel himself getting jealous, then he’ll talk it out with you. There are times when he’s most definitely protective of you, but he definitely wouldn’t stretch as far to say that it’s jealousy, because he knows full well that you can handle yourself too.
K ⇴ KIDS
Changmin definitely sees himself having a future with you, otherwise he would’ve never started your relationship. Whilst he doesn’t want to rush things too much, he’s open and honest with you about the fact that he sees children in his future. He wants to be the family man, even if he’s an idol, despite the stereotypes around it, he fails to see why he can’t live out both of his dreams and do it to the best of his ability.
L ⇴ LAUGHTER
Whilst he’s not someone loud and outlandish, Changmin still tries to be a big enough character to make sure that the smile is on your face. You know that he’s not someone that feels the need to try desperately hard to be funny, so instead you learn to laugh and love with the many other fascinating qualities that Changmin has instead. You appreciate his kindness and how much he cares for you a lot more than you focus on his ability to make you laugh. Regardless of how funny he may or not be, you always have a smile on your face whenever you’re in his company, and that’s what is most important to you both.
M ⇴ MISSING
Despite the many years he’s spent touring the world, missing the one that he loves really does take it out of Changmin. He’s someone that doesn’t want others to see him sad, so he’ll often head back to his hotel room whenever he can feel himself beginning to miss you and get through it alone. Yunho had definitely learnt over the years too how to help Changmin deal with the feeling of missing you. Whilst he can often tell when Changmin has been getting teary, he’ll try not to show it, and so Yunho won’t bring it up. He’ll simply try his hardest to make Changmin smile and distract him from you as best as he can.
N ⇴ NICKNAMES
He loves nicknames that he’s heard in the movies, things like ‘darling,’ which are repeated again and again are his favourite nicknames for you. Anything he knows will make you smile is good as far as Changmin is concerned.
O ⇴ OBSESSION
Changmin is obsessed with your huge heart, he loves feeling loved, but most of all, he loves the kindness and the care that you have for him, always.
P ⇴ PDA
The biggest thing for Changmin is that you’re safe with him, so his affection in public will usually be to make sure that you feel happy at his side. He’s spent many years in the public eye, he knows how things can be, so no matter the situation, he’s always on top of things and making sure you’re protected under his touch.
Q ⇴ QUESTIONS
He loved to get deep with you and ask you pressing questions of the worlds. He had a lot of thoughts that he’d share with you, but he’d love to hear all of your thoughts too on all of the random things of the world.
R ⇴ RANDOM FACTS
You very much ended up as the fourth part of his drinking trio with Minho and Kyuhyun, they loved inviting you out to their drinking events with them and try to get you as drunk as possible. Whilst Changmin would be a little bit more careful, the other two could constantly pass you soju bottles, knowing full well that if you got too drunk that it would be Changmin looking after you and they didn’t have to worry about a thing.
S ⇴ SEX
The number one priority as far as Changmin is concerned is always you. He’s full of love and passion when it comes to you and making sure that you feel loved by him too. He takes his time with you, he’s never one to rush into anything, paying close attention to small details and little things that he knows you like. If there’s one thing that can be guaranteed with Changmin, it’s that he always leaves you feeling on top of the world.
T ⇴ TEXTS
He would get in contact with you often, but Changmin much preferred to call than text you. The sound of your voice was comforting, and he could also tell how you were really doing by the tone of your voice rather than just a text.
U ⇴ UNIVERSE
The thing that Changmin always valued the most from being with you was the support that you always gave him. You never once complained, but instead you were the first one there to cheer him on in anything that he did.
V ⇴ VACATION
Whenever he went on tour, Changmin always made sure to note down his favourite places so that he could take you there one day and show you around some new cities. So, when he finally got the chance to take you away, he made sure to revisit the places he knew you’d adore and create plenty of memories with you.
W ⇴ WHINING
Changmin was far too mature to whine if he wanted something, he was patient with you and always obliging to wait for your time.
X ⇴ XXXXX
His favourite spot to kiss was always against the top of your head, Changmin loved to use his height to his advantage when he was kissing you. If he wasn’t snatching against your forehead, then he’d be leaning down and pressing a kiss against your cheek. He loves making it difficult for you to kiss him, nothing makes him happier than knowing you’re up on your tiptoes just so that you’re at the height to be able to kiss him.
Y ⇴ YOU
You were his best friend, the one person that he always wanted to be around.
Z ⇴ ZZZ
Most nights you end up falling asleep listening to Changmin sleep talk beside you. Whilst he’ll often argue otherwise, you lay up and listen closely, making sure to record it when you can so he has no room for argument the following morning when you’re exhausted.
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#tvxq#tvxq imagine#changmin#changmin imagine#max#max imagine#tvxq scenario#tvxq reaction#tvxq max#tvxq changmin#shim changmin#shim changmin imagine#tvxq drabble#tvxq one shot#tvxq fluff#dbsk#dbsk imagine#changmin reaction#changmin scenario#changmin drabble#changmin one shot#changmin fluff#kpop#kpop imagine
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tagged by @flamingdiva to answer some questions & tag 20 blogs. Thank you so much dear~!
Name/nickname: Hannah
Gender: Female
Star sign: Cancer 🦀🦀🦀
Height: 5'6"
Birthday: June 22
Favorite bands: SHINee, Day6, B.A.P, NU'EST, Snuper, KNK, G(I)-DLE, Seventeen, Monsta X, 4Minute, (a whole bunch more kpop), Queen, Journey and Devin townsend project
Favorite Solo Artists: Jonghyun, Taemin, Key, Onew, Minho, Sunmi, Lee Hi, Hyuna, Ailee, Kyuhyun, Daehyun, Amber Liu, Taeyeon, John denver, Lana del rey, Devin townsend
Song stuck in my head: Hwaa by G(I)-DLE
Last movie: Soul
Last Show: Queer eye
When I created this blog: 2012?
Last thing I googled: glass ceiling reviews
Do I get asks: Nope, but I like when I do
Following: 127 (I find it hard to find new blogs to follow 😓)
Why did I choose this URL: Because Key's blonde buzz cut with the rainbow colors from TSOL era was ICONIC and it reminded me of confetti cake. Plus I decided to fully become a SHINee blog.
Average hours of sleep: Usually try for 9hrs but my brain keeps me awake at night sometimes
Lucky numbers(s): 3 and 22
Instruments: Saxophone for 5 years and I know like one song for the piano
What I'm wearing: literally this almost exact shirt (I literally bought this shirt a year ago because it looks so much like this one) + grey yoga pants
Dream trip: I would love to see the ancient historical sites in Rome, Italy and Athens, Greece (honestly would love to see both countries). I also would love a trip to South Korea or Japan and see a SHINee concert??? Also would love to go to Switzerland for chocolate and their beautiful mountains. Plus Scotland, because I have family history there.
Favorite food: Chicken Alfredo, Steak with broccoli and anything with Chocolate
Favorite song: *Inserts SHINee's whole discography* if I had to pick one tho, maybe Symptoms or Selene 6.23
Top 3 fictional universes I'd like to live in: Harry Potter (for magic and awesome creatures✨), Lord of the Rings (I would love just to live in the shire and take naps) and Avatar: the last airbender (I would definitely be an airbender).
I'll be tagging: @teddybear-march, @wishfulunicorns, @gwiyonew, @hisnameisminho, @mias97, @1991shinwoo, @exosbaeks, @lokiat221b
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'Take care of your voice too', thats very caring of him and doyoung smile after that too shshsh
https://x.com/yunotized/status/1846540793194152000?t=DryeP9bC7fqgwgyh1wBSBQ&s=19
They couldnt even look at each other in the eye, but when they do its like we're interrupting them smh
https://x.com/urmy_214/status/1846539673260487164?t=KPVDAAGJmOey7bJ5b245Iw&s=19
(Sorry but im just happy with this moment coz we didnt really expect jaehyun to come. He was recording for something too at the time for Jolo, but still making it for doyoungie hyung^^ sweet~)
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What do you mean you didn't expect him to come? He went all the way to Busan to say goodbye to his friend but somehow won't find time to spend a few hours at the first solo concert of his boyfriend?
Who is that in grey shirt? Kyuhyun? No wonder Doyoung is so flustered in the reflection of the mirror, heh.
The phrase about the voice was for the camera.
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Super Junior 16th Member AU
General Info:
Birth Name: Ji Sky
Stage Name: Sky
Birthday: July 20th, 1989 (Cancer)
Nationality: Korean and American
Weight: 100lb (45kg)
Height: 5′6 (167cm)
Positions: Main vocalist and Main dancer (Also helps Eunhyuk with directing Super Shows or any other side concerts/stages)
Subunits: Super Junior H, Super Junior T, KRY(S), and Super Junior M
Solo: 2012 with “I will show you”
Dramas: Goblin (Kim Sun) and Age of Youth/ Hello, My twenties (Yoo Eun Jae)
Variety: Men on a Mission/Knowing Bros (Herself and Shindong recently), Super TV (her and the members), SJ Returns (Her and the members), Weekly Idol (Was an MC and appeared by herself and with SuJu), Running man (her and the members), The return of Superman (appeared with some of the members, herself, and other SM artist), Super Adonis Camp (Her and the members), Explorers of the Human Body (Her and the members), Star King (Herself and with the members), and lots of other underrated shows.
Face Claim: Kim Na Hee
Voice claim: Ailee
Get to know her more:
Joined the Entertainment back in 2000 when she was only 11 years old
Was supposed to be a part of Girls Generation but SM thought she was better to debut early
Super Junior is the first to break many norms such as; the First group to have 13 members (2005), the first group to have a Chinese foreigner, the first boy group to have one or any girl in it, and so on...
Since she grew up with all of them, she has little bits of personalities from each member
Always thinks the members are attractive (Maybe a few crushes and love affairs happen..)
Her first kiss was with Eunhyuk during episode 12 of Explorers of the Human Body.
The Magnae of the group if you exclude Henry
In 2009 she dated a non-idol who manipulated, cheated, and abused her for 2 years
She lived with Yesung for two years after Kyuhyun was the last to leave the dorms for his enlistment.
She occasionally goes and visits Sungmin, there are even vlogs with him in it
After Lo Siento, Sky wasn’t in any live performances or promotions with it. She was only in the MV with no lines.
After that, Sky almost left Super Junior and SM because of the missed treatment. So, during SS7 she cried almost at every concert because she thought it would be her last.
Don’t be fooled! She may seem like she's "Dark and Edgy" but she is soft, sweet, caring, and does a lot of aegyo around the members
Her Celebrity crushes are Rain and Lee Dong Wook
Her best friend outside of Super Junior is Kim Minseok (Xiumin) from EXO
Fully supports every group she sees and interacts with (Peep her rocking out at every award show and might even go to some artists' concerts)
She's a personal E.L.F herself ;)
She does YouTube. She posts, blogs, and goes live, mostly just giving ELFs the content they always ask for
Also, the only member to dance and enjoy their song Spy
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#super junior#super junior au#super junior headcanon#super junior imagine#super junior reaction#super junior reactions#super junior fanfic#super junior fanfiction#super junior scenarios#fem!idol au#fem!idol#suju#sj#16th member#hengeng#leeteuk#heechul#eunhyuk#donghae#siwon#shindong#sungmin#zhoumi#kangin#yesung#ryeowook#kyuhyun#kim kibum sj#lau henry#henry lau
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Super Junior reaction to you being in a super popular japanese female band
Requested by anon! I hope you like it. nvn I worked with active members, but if you'd like me to add more tell me and I'll do. :)
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Leeteuk: he thought your music was good. Went to a couple of concerts, but he kept falling for your work. Was also in love with your vocals and how a good leader you are for your girls, truly respect. Occasionally would promote your band.
Heechul: biggest fan ever™. He's a rockstar, you know it and he loved your guitar solos. Would scream/sing your songs everytime he has the chance and even make random choreographies that doesn't match music anyway.
Yesung: he might not show it up, but he's a fan. Thought your discography is good, and wouldn't miss your concerts in Korea. He knows you absolutely kill it with the drums.
Shindong: he would be amazed at your voice and how your band perform at concerts. Never missed any of your concerts and would always make sure to praise your band's work after show or sns. A fan™.
Donghae: also wouldn't admit he's a fan. He loves most of your songs tho, and went a couple of times to see your band at concerts. Might be interested in playing bass after seeing you.
Eunhyuk: Hyukjae LOVES your band. He thinks you absolutely kill it with the rhythm guitar, and would ask for your autograph later at the meeting.
Siwon: he found your music so randomly. After he learned who you guys were he knew he had to see you live. Was shook when he saw you were a multi-instrumentalist. Not disappointed.
Ryeowook: would praise your vocals and your guitar performance. He liked most of your songs and would post on sns his love for your band.
Kyuhyun: fans recommended your band to him. Thought you were good and decided to make a cover for your most famous song. He loved your guitar solos btw. Expect to see him at your next concert.
#super junior#super junior imagine#super junior reactions#super junior scenario#super junior scenarios#kpop imagine#super junior x reader#super junior drabbles#super junior headcanons#leeteuk#heechul#yesung#shindong#siwon#ryeowook#kyuhyun#donghae#eunhyuk#leeteuk scenario#heechul scenario#yesung scenario#shindong scenario#siwon scenario#ryeowook scenario#kyuhyun scenario#donghae escenario#eunhyuk scenario#kpop scenarios#kpop imagines
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hi i saw ur post about sm and the graduation system and i’m kinda new to kpop and kpop companies, i was wondering if u could explain what the graduation system is?
Hi! Uhm Okay, please bare with me 'coz I don't know where to start or how to explain this properly but I'll try lol
Let's start with history, shall we?
So a graduation system is basically a group concept made by SM Entertainment a music label/entertainment company where SJ, SNSD, SHINEE, F(X), NCT, EXO, TVXQ, RED VELVET, BOA & others are housed. So as per my knowledge, the 'Graduation System' was first applied or given to Super Junior when they debuted in 2005 making their debut album titled as 'Super Junior '05'. Meaning, the 12-member original lineup back then will be reorganized (idk if that's the proper term) based on their performance making the members work hard or do their best if they want to be part of the next lineup for Super Junior '06. It's like competing with your own members. So basically, every year or every comeback, there's a different or a new set of members. On the following year (2006), they added another member which was Kyuhyun making SJ a 13-member group, the largest pop group in history so far at that time. There were backlash when Kyuhyun was added. Fans (ELF) were worried and threatened about the instability of the group and the uncertainty of the concept that they have. Fans were worried about the members' future after going through intense training for yearsss so basically they didn't like it. And then in 2007, SM introduced another new member featuring which was Henry in SJ's 'Don't Don' comeback. Backlash continued. SM didn't expect that SJ's first and original lineup would appeal to the public like that, afterall, SJ was known to be 'TVXQ's leftovers'... damn writing this hurts... After all the backlash that SM received, they never tried adding anymore members into SJ and cancelled the 'graduation system'. They made Henry and ZhouMi (both are Chinese) members of Super Junior - M (SJ's sub-unit based and marketed in China) instead. Yes, just a member of the sub-unit, not the main group. If you still don't know since you're new to KPop, SJ was the first group to ever venture into sub-units. Considering they have large number of members, SM saw this opportunity to utilize their artists. It's like value adding. The first sub-unit in KPop was Super Junior - K.R.Y, a ballad sub-unit composed of SJ's main vocalists: Kyuhyun, Ryeowook, & Yesung. So yeah, the graduation/rotational system failed with SJ. They remained as a 13-member group since then (15-members actually including sub-unit members Henry & ZhouMi) Basically, SJ was a lab rat for SM, an experimental group. They gave the graduation system to them and tested the sub-unit thing as trial and error.
Fast forward to 2012, SM debuted EXO with 12 members as a whole divided into 2 sub-units which were EXO - M (Mandarin; based in China) and EXO - K (Korea) with 6 members each. There were no graduation system in EXO although they are an improved version of the sub-unit concept given, tried and tested first by SJ. SM would like to think that they left the errors they encountered with SJ's sub-unit system and then apply the 'improved' version of it to EXO. Did it also fail? You tell me. I'm seriously hoping that history won't repeat itself on WayV. Once you get deeper into Kpop especially into SM groups, you'll see eventually the connection, trend, similarites and differences between SJ, EXO & NCT (SM's largest groups) and also their Chinese sub-units, Super Junior - M, EXO - M, and WayV respectively and realize how SM worked around this concept of graduation/rotational system and infinite members and infinite possibilities that they gave NCT.
Fast forward to 2016, NCT debuted with its first sub-unit NCT U which has this rotational concept. Apparently, in NCT's case, rotational system and graduation was made separate and different. Any member in NCT regardless of what fixed unit they belong to could debut and release a song & MV as a member of NCT U depending on whoever fits the song. It could be a duo, a solo, a trio, or indefinite number of members.
SM would like to think that they left the errors they encountered with SJ's graduation system and then apply the 'improved' version of it to NCT Dream. NCT Dream debuted in 2016 with the original lineup of 7 members composed of Mark, Renjun, Jeno, Haechan, Jaemin, Chenle, & Jisung. They were literally just 14 - 18 years old (Korean age) back then, teenagers. And the graduation system that SM gave them was that when they reach the age of adulthood which is 20y.o in Korea, they have to 'graduate' or leave the group and re-debut separately into another fixed unit which is based in another country's city ('coz SM was planning to conquer the world through music somehow lol). So after reaching the age of 20, these kids who literally grew up together as childhood friends are bound to be separated. Mark turned 20y.o in 2018 and graduated by the end of the same year. The members threw him a Kamsa (Thank You) Party which is like a send-off party around Christmas time of 2018. He was no longer part of NCT Dream's activity or comebacks after that nor seen together with the other NCT Dream's members unless it's a full group (NCT as whole) activity. So in 2019, 00liners Renjun, Jeno, Haechan, & Jaemin turned 20y.o and were expected to graduate from the sub-unit at the end of the year just like Mark. But SM announced concert tour schedules for NCT Dream on November of 2019. Til 2020 came and Chenle also turned 20y.o and SM never mentioned anything about the graduation. Not until today April 14, 2020 where they finally broke their silence and announced that NCT Dream's graduation system is abolished and will adopt NCT U's rotational system instead making NCT Dream a fixed unit. I know this might cause confusion later on especially for new NCTzens so I'm gonna clear it up here now. NCT U's rotational system includes everyone in NCT and give them opportunity to collaborate and release a song regardless of the sub-unit they belong to. While NCT Dream's rotational system is only exclusive to NCT Dream's 7 members: Mark, Renjun, Jeno, Haechan, Jaemin, Chenle, & Jisung.
SM isn't really good at taking back whatever they've started, they'll see to it that at some point, they'll still be able to push through their original plan. That's why I said on my previous post that they've 'compromised'. They didn't give in to our demands, they've 'compromised' thinking that this is the 'best' they could give us given the situation.
Other people say it's no big deal, they're still in the same group just not in the same sub-unit. Or they're just separated in sub-units, it doesn't mean they're no longer friends which is all true. But if it's just something that light of a thing to deal with, it wouldn't affect the members so much. SJ have mentioned in some ocassions before that the graduation/rotational system they had during debut was extremely hard on them because even if they didn't want to, the concept made them look at their members, their friends as rivals. It made them compete with each other. The managers kinda pressured them into thinking that way, the company made them feel that way. They were still budding into adulthood back then, around 18- 22y.o. They were struggling because their concept gave them so much uncertainty. Imagine joining the company at a young age aspiring to debut as an artist so you could put food on the table for your family (because most of SJ members came from poor families) so you went through years of intense training and then to debut in a group where your future isn't assured. While for NCT Dream, since they are childhood friends, some of them have said on ocassions before (specifically Jaemin & Jisung) that aside from their members, they don't have friends. Because they've dedicated their childhood in intense training. They didn't have the time to mingle with other kids in school because right after classes, they'd go straight to training so the only friends they know and have are their members. Think that all those years they were building that relationship together, while SM were planning to separate them from each other when they turn 20. SM even made Jeno, Haechan & Jaemin drop out of high school just a few months before their high school graduation to focus on NCT Dream's graduation. Think about how they were robbed of that opportunity. I specially/personally feel bad about knowing how Jeno enjoys school and excels in academics. Think about how hard they cried during their first ever concert The Dream Show thinking that it might be their first and last concert together because even themselves don't know what SM plans to do with them after graduation. That's what the 'graduation system' does to young group of people. Although the concept is not all bad, but it's not nice to play with other people's emotions like that. That's why no one wants it.
So yeah, that concludes my explanation. Sorry if it's kinda information overload. I think, while writing, it became more of a vent/rant more than explaining. 😅
If there's any of ya'll who comes across this post may correct me (politely, of course) if any of the info I've wrote were wrong. Thank you. I hope this helps to you dear and to any Kpop newbies out there 😊
#i'm sorry. i cannot not mention SJ here...#i was heaving deep sighs while writing this 'coz it was honeatly kinda heavy for me#it's hard to write this without having all the flashbacks of the past#damn it's hard when you know too much#rogeeii's ask#nct dream#graduation system#kpop#dreamies#nct ot7 dream#7Dream#super junior#exo#suju#sj#sjm#exo m#wayv#exo k#nct 127#nct u#sm entertainment#sm ent#sment#mark lee#jeno#renjun#haechan#jaemin
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