#Konoha-kyubi

[team7-headquarter]

Do you ever think about how the two kyubi jinchurikis previous to Naruto were married to a hokage? How the women serving as the recipient of the feared beast were some of the most beloved people of the head of the militar state?

The strongest man in the village marries the deadliest woman in the village and people were like "I trust our leader but I am terrified of his wife".

What about the children?

Not even one mention of how the Uzumaki and Senju kekkei genkais mixed. What about the contrast of the Uchihas marrying within the clan to maximize their sharingan users while the Senjus and the Uzumakis married?

There's no mention either of Hashirama and Mito's kids. Would their mixed blood make them more or less powerful? Would some of them still get the red hair? Would some of them choose to move with the majority of the Uzumaki clan? Would they rather use the last name Senju to prevent getting hunted like their cousins outside of Konohagajure?

Tell me, if Tsunade is a direct descendant of Hashirama and Tobirama, doesn't she also has Uzumaki blood from Mito?

What about the influence?

Mito raises all those children and they knew to fear the kyubi, but how did they feel about the jinchuriki? What about their mother? And how did it shape the way they would later perceive Kushina? How did the Senjus treat Kushina? Was she family to them? Had Mito any influence over how Kushina was raised and trained even as old as she was?

What type of influence did Mito have over Hashirama? Even if she never mediated on the Hokages duties, how her beliefs shaped the beliefs of her children? Of the Senju clan? Of the Uzumakis? Of the people of Konoha? When Hashirama died, did Tobirama pushed aside? Or she retired herself given her age?

When did the Uzumakis and the Senjus disappeared from Konoha? If you follow the Minato one-shot manga recently published by Kishimoto, the Uzumakis were still highly respected on Konoha-- or at least had their own space, a place to keep their legacy and train their own. So when did it all come down and when did the Senju and Uzumaki clans started dying enough to be completely gone when Naruto was born?

The Minato manga shows that Kushina was a reason for him to take certain choices. So did he have a plan to change Konoha to become a place for his wife and son to live happy and not rejected? What type or political changes would he have applied if given the chance?

The only real option to try and make sense of the history of Konoha is if you acknowledge that 1) Tobirama did make the militarization more efficient, but not necessarily made life better for everyone; 2) Hiruzen must be the WORST hokage given his indecision between doing what Tobirama did which would have turned him into Danzo or try to benefit the lives of the people under his commands even if it meant risking Konoha as a militar state.

Then again, what exactly means to have the advice of an Uzumaki woman? How does it change things? Did Mito ever tried to be the mediator between Hashirama and Madara? What could a friendship between Kushina and Mikoto could have changed the future?

Is there something to say about the positions of both Mito and Kushina as women from a clan that's hunted down for their power and that has been turned to weapons/sacrifices? How would their identities parallel the Uchiha clan?

How could this all reflect on the story and the theme of the manga?

Framing Naruto as the survivor of a genocide would have been an amazing point to meet or finally understand Sasuke in his rejection of Konoha. Sasuke saw his clan died but they denied Naruto that knowledge. Sasuke lost it but they didn't even allow Naruto to have it. Sasuke can return to the Uchiha compound and visit the sacred secrets of his people, but the story denied Naruto of that. Itachi cursed Sasuke with his choice to kill the clan in order for Sasuke to live and Konoha to be safe, Minato cursed Naruto by sealing Kurama in him to protect his life and the village. They were manipulated from the start, everyone deciding which parts of the story they got to listen to, never allowing them to decide with eyes wide open. Of course they can speak to each other without words. They don't know how similar their experiences are.

Hashirama and Minato didn't mean for the jinchurikis to be just a weapon of the state (those were their wives!!!!!!!), but Tobirama allowed that to happen and Hiruzen actively dictated rules to make sure it'll be the result (isolating Naruto from the village, like they did with the Uchiha clan). Tsunade only tried to keep things rolling, but she at least can defend with her medical achievement and the fact the system was rotten to the core when she became hokage.

Even Sakura and Hinata benefit from this, both in the deepening of their characters and the canon romantic plotlines. To be soft or wild, to be bullied by others or constantly left behind given their lovers' duties, to be raised under the pressure of a legacy or to be helpless and wanting to stop being a burden, to break the expectations and reclaim your identity, to make your own path and become a great kunoichi who can also love and fight to he loved, to be seen, to be there with the man they love.

Thinking about Mito and Kushina make me spiral because they are so important!!! Yet we don't have many mentions of them!!!! Why!!!!

[alperen1emre]

[whitelilynh]

Just feel so stupid to realise, thanks to current real life events, that Naruto really talk-no-Jutsu-ed me FOR YEARS into Konoha's propaganda.

Like, what they did to Itachi and Sasuke was monstruos, what they did to Uchiha clan was a complete and unjustified crime.

Was Konoha justified to suspect the Uchiha after a Sharingan-manipulated Kyubi attacked them? Yes, ofc. Was it a justification for a full apartheid regime that lead to a genocide? Fuck NO!

Although Konoha didn't knew Obito was still alive, hence the possibilities, according to them, reduced to the Uchiha (and Kakashi, why nobody mentions Kakashi?), instead of the racist segregation they conduced they should have, Idk, do a freaking proper investigation?

Like, oh, a Sharingan user took advantage of the debilitation of the seal because of Kushina giving birth, it must had been an Uchiha. Well, how many Uchihas actually knew the seal was getting weaker during labor? How many of them knew *when* was Kushina going to give birth? And how many of them knew *where* btw? Reduce the list to those. Include Kakashi, if he knew.

And to those, investigate, survey, and all your shit.

But why to assume a whole freaking clan that lives in peace under the supposed protection of the village would want to destroy it?

And yet, Konoha is all prideful thinking they are better. They are no freaking better. They still saw the Kyubi and it's jinchuriki as nothing but a weapon, they didn't care at all about Naruto's well being and feelings, even though he was the son of the previous Hokage, even though he was actually made a Jinchuriki and became an orphan precisely to protect the freaking village (I'm looking at you Hiruzen, I hate you!).

And on top of that, freaking Konoha took advantage of a poor 13yo boy whose love for the village divided his consciousness, to f*cking force him to kill his entire clan for them, then threw him away and hunted him as a dog, criminalise and vilify him.

And never freaking cared about Sasuke, never explained a thing to him. They even tried to blame Sasuke for not blindly believing their propaganda.

Did Konoha ever realise *they* created Sasuke?

I know Naruto fell for Konoha's propaganda, and I know the whole village wasn't to blame, but the leaders. But somehow, Sasuke should have received a sort of repair, Idk, to tell the truth about his family at least, for the world to know. For the innocents to know, and to pay respect to the deceased clan.

But instead, Sasuke got guilt tripped into serving the masters that destroyed his whole people.

A masterfully done work of propaganda.

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

What would be your ideal ending for Sasuke ?

In one word, anon, justice. I really don’t care a lot about everything else. If he marries or has children, if he wins or loses the fight with Naruto, if he goes travelling or whatever. The least he deserved was justice and reparation, and he got nothing of that.

Sasuke deserved an ending where his rage was validated. Where he received a formal apology. Where the genocide of the Uchiha was not swept under the rug (if the wishes of Itachi were to be respected, at least acknowledge the oppression and exclusion that they suffered from Konoha and clear their name from the suspicions raised after the Kyubi attack). Sasuke should have not been forced to show remorse in the end. Remorse for what, anyway? He had nothing to feel sorry for, he did nothing wrong. He didn’t even punish half the people that deserved to die at his hands. What does he need to atone for, when deranged villains went on without consequences? Sasuke was a victim of genocide. The least the perpetrators could do was apologise and be thankful he didn’t materialise any of his threats to burn Konoha to ashes.

Sasuke deserved to see the two counsellors that remained alive fired, prosecuted and punished. He deserved to be honoured and awarded for saving the world and for his crucial role in ending the war, and all he got was ostracism and a condescending scolding from his former teacher.

Sasuke deserved compensation. He deserved to see his clan honoured and remembered. He deserved to get returned any property, document, or information Konoha had gotten from the Uchiha after the massacre or during their unlawful surveillance, including any body parts or any other thing stolen for any of Danzo’s grotesque endeavours. He deserved to see the Root disbanded, any of its willing members investigated and punished, and Danzo declared a traitor, a child abductor, a genocidal trash, a corrupt and a conspirator.

Sasuke deserved to see his friend, his so-called “like a brother” standing by his promises and doing something to change the world for the better. Sasuke did not deserve to be alone and remorseful working for a place that never officially repudiated the darkness and the ways of the past. Sasuke did not deserve to see the enabler of the extermination of his family glorified in the form of a painting in the Hokage’s office. And the same for the fascist that spread racist pseudoscience about his family to justify their segregation and oppression. He did not deserve to see those that promoted the genocide of his clan working as counsellor for his so-called friend, who still hears them in his office.

And, of course, Sasuke deserved Taka, too. He deserved to be with them, to honour the promise he made to Jugo. Their unconditional loyalty and friendship. He deserved comfort in the friends that he chose and that were ready to fight the world for him.

And, I think, anon, Sasuke deserved to pursue his revolutionary ideas to build a new world without the darkness of the Shinobi system. Sasuke did not deserve to have all his personality, his character and his soul killed for the sake of the main character’s victory. We know the main character had to win, still, there was so much potential in Sasuke. We deserved to at least see them improving the world together. Making efforts so the future generations never had to experience what they went through.

Anyway, sorry for the long rant, I don’t think I surprised you with any amazing idea for an ending, as everything I mentioned has been discussed before by many others. I apologise also because it took me ages to answer.  I hope you are having a wonderful time, anon, please take care.

[sasukexplicit]

What do you think are Naruto and Sasuke’s greatest personality strengths and weaknesses? Why? What do you love about their dynamic? Sorry if you've answered these questions before.....

from the manga, naruto's greatest strength is his persistence to achieve his goal. since we're talking about sasuke and naruto, i'll focus more on both of them. naruto's persistence to bring sasuke back to konoha ignoring gaara and jiraiya's ideas is a great act of love. given the context in which sasuke found himself being a member of akatsuki and being one of the most dangerous ninjas in the world, naruto carried great responsibility when dealing with the uchiha at that time, because it was about entering a minefield, as literally all the villages, especially the cloud village (due to the “capture” of killer bee) wanted to see him dead, as he represented an obvious threat.

during this text i wrote, i included some panels from the manga to remember these moments…

1. jiraiya asks naruto to forget about sasuke

2. naruto and his iconic phrase

3. gaara telling naruto that he will have no mercy on sasuke because he is a threat to the ninja world

in addition, naruto's greatest weakness is sasuke (see how much he put his life at risk in the lines i wrote above because of uchiha). naruto took a risk by personally asking the raikage not to kill sasuke, he was violently beaten by karui to protect sasuke, he lost control of the kyubi's chakra in the fight against orochimaru because of sasuke and he had a panic attack with the overload of emotions that he was having everything happening at the same time. anyway, a lot happened during the manga that clearly shows the risk that Naruto took to protect sasuke, this is a sign of weakness but also a sign of the unbreakable bond between the two.

4. naruto out of control after orochimaru talks about sasuke

5. naruto begging the raikage not to go after sasuke

6. naruto after being beaten (without fighting back) against karui in order to protect sasuke

7. iconic naruto panel thinking about sasuke

8. naruto hyperventilating after the amount of events that are happening at the same time without him having control over it

about sasuke, his biggest strength is his determination. again, i’m making this synthesis only with the relationship between naruto and sasuke: from the first interaction between them, in the fight against haku we saw his determination to abandon his revenge against Itachi (which was his biggest goal in life) to sacrifice himself for naruto (remembering that he already lost his family once and didn't want it to happen twice).

9. sasuke saying he doesn't want to see his comrades killed in front of him again

10. sasuke sacrificing himself for naruto in the fight against haku

sasuke's biggest weakness is naruto. remember that his main objective was to defeat his older brother itachi, to obtain revenge for what happened to his clan, but one of the requirements to achieve this according to itachi was to obtain the mangekyou sharingan, that is, killing naruto. he managed to obtain victory against naruto in the valley of the end but he was unable to end his life.

11. sasuke being unable to end naruto's life (even with the perfect opportunity to do so)

12. sasuke saying that naruto is his closest friend

13. itachi saying that to awaken the mangekyou sharingan it is necessary for sasuke to kill his closest friend

when i talked about the determination to be the greatest strong point of sasuke we also have to remember that this quality almost brought the death of naruto because thus, the only weakness of the uchiha would go before his eyes.

14. sasuke saying the iconic phrase of my one and only

15. sasuke saying that naruto knows his heart and vice versa

what i like most about the dynamics between them, in a few words, is: "naruto and sasuke progress as a pair. so when i write about naruto, i always have to think about sasuke. they are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang.”

masashi kishimoto

[al-hekima-madara-blog]

It's all about love, folks! (Minato Manga)

My reaction of the Naruto Gaiden - Whirlwind in the Vortex.

When was the last time we've got a story written and drawn by Masashi Kishimoto? Naruto Gaiden in... 2015!! Needless to say that I was highly anticipating this one shot, not that I'm a big fan of Minato (rather neutral) but I'm wondering if Kishimoto still got the guts... ~wink wink if you know, you know😉~ in 2023.

And I was happily surprised! First of all, he trolls us a little bit, this Minato Namikaze's story is in reality a Kushina Uzumaki's story. Naruto's favourite jutsu, the rasengan is strongly connected to his parent's life. Secondly Kishimoto, notoriously-known-for-not-dealing-well-with-female-characters, wrote a proper shojo, in the noble sense of the term. And you know what? It's very good! It's a true love story between Minato and Kushina and this since their young age. The drawing is just beautiful, the writing emotional and poised, Kishimoto's style is intact, The Naruto universe is still there. Why did he let us rotten with the ugly Boruto instead? I don't know but I divert...😭

For my Founders enthusiasts, we can now confirm what we already knew bc we actually read the manga Naruto and Minato one shot rather than fanfiction: Mito and Hashirama was not a loveless arrange marriage as it is spread by a baseless urban legend. Hashirama loved Mito and Mito loved Hashirama. Their romance is not only canon but essential to the storyline. Jinchuuriki needs to be loved and support in order to keep control of the Bijuu, Gaara is a perfect example. Without her husband's love, Mito wouldn't have had the strength to keep the Kyuubi inside her. Kushina&Minato are mirroring Mito&Hashirama. Both Uzumaki, both jinchuriki, both in a deep love bond with an exceptionally powerful shinobi, and future hokage.

Naruto was able to keep the demon inside him for so long, first because he only possess half of the true kyubi's form, then thanks to the love of his parents (Minato and Kushina appeared 2 times to protect his seal), later by the fatherly love of Iruka-sensei, then the team 7 Kakashi, Sakura, Sasuke and of course all his friends in Konoha and beyond.

That was my first impression and it's globally positive. I'll probably talk more about this Minato's story, we got many information about the Uzumaki clan...but later in a podcast, so stay tuned!

[rayshippouuchiha]

I'm eternally full of wrath over the fact no one in Konoha knew about the chakra imprints of Naruto's parents in the seal.

Naruto would've died to Pein without ever knowing who his parents were because no one manned up and let him know what he had a right to know.

If not for his parents loving him enough to want to leave behind failsafes in case his seal was ever damaged so he'd at least get to be protected by them personally one more time he never fucking would've known. Maybe not until the fourth war arc with Minato as an edo tensei summoned by Sasuke and do you think Naruto would've EASILY worked with 4th Hokage who sealed the Kyubi into him right away? No. Konoha's inability to own up to its fuck ups and to be honest with the victims of those fuck ups would've endangered the entire world. And for what? "I just didn't feel up to talking about it" or maybe "We'll tell him when he's older/stronger/better/more mature/at least a chunin/can keep secrets" when they shouldn't be goalposting this anyway and also fucking you don't feel up to it? Naruto didn't feel up to being an orphan hated and despised by literally every adult around him

I'm sorry to continue to rant but

AND ANOTHER THING

Naruto goes literally YEARS without knowing the rasengan was his FATHER'S jutsu. YEARS.

Using this jutsu, his dad invented, without knowing it, all the time in every fight. And Naruto thinks he's just using a badass technique the perv sage showed him which belonged to the yondaime, he has no idea what it should mean to him and he is kept in the dark, for years.

Kakashi was 26-27 at the start of the show and 30 when Naruto comes back from the time skip, trauma or no that is a grown-ass man an adult the entire time we know him, who just.. observes this hard-working teen in his care who's clearly all about his bonds (See the Gaara rescue and the find Sasuke missions) because he never had anyone in his corner before team 7 and he just.. goes "hmm" and never fucking tells him anything about his parents who Kakashi knew? EITHER OF HIS PARENTS??? Anything about them!?? What they were like? Their habits? Their techniques? How happy they were he was going to be born? How he wasn't born an orphan? How he was loved? DOESN'T EVEN TRY TO PASS DOWN FUINJUTSU TO THE UZUMAKI HEIR BECAUSE WHAT?! NARUTO'S 'TOO DUMB' or 'Too much of a bother to explain all the backstory why he should know/why I'm teaching it/too much of a bother to teach such a complicated thing' or 'the village doesn't want its jinchuriki to know how its own seal works we'd rather keep that power in our hands' like what. What would even be a good reason he is literally his sensei, and Jiraiya had three years to train him and focused on 'unlocking the seal to make use of more seals' while again not teaching Naruto how the seal worked at all and then once he got a scar from naruto abandoning the plan. Yes, Naruto got proper taijutsu training and training with the toad summons but still. What a waste. I'm still fuming.

~~~

Naruto got failed all the way around by a lot of people and only a few attempted to really and truly make up for it.

[sojalecithin]

This is the second version of my entry for the @narutobigreversebang - a mini-tier illustration for an AU in which not only Minato and Kushina survive the Kyubi attack and raise Kakashi and Naruto, but also Team Seven is there to enjoy life in Konoha with their happy family.

My writing partner is @kaoruhana08 / kaoruhana. You can read her heartwarming fanfiction to witness Kakashi's fear of a messy baby Naruto.

[virtualcarrot]

Ok, I need to get this off my chest because it's a double standard in terms of character analysis that has been bugging me.

The general zeitgeist in the Naruto fandom (afaik) is:

Obito was a misunderstood and wounded tragic figure who caused mass destruction out of understandable trauma

Hiruzen was a despicable neglectful ruler who let Konoha's orphans fend for themselves and ordered the gratuitous slaughter of a whole clan

One caused the definitive death of hundreds of thousands of people in the search of an ideal

The other caused an unspecified but lesser amount of deaths in hope of a greater good

Both are definitely questionable.

Hiruzen is a former teen soldier burnt out by war, which made him weak-willed and unwilling to take moral stances out of fear of the risks incurred. His compromising lead to Hyuga Hizashi's sacrifice, and there were probably better ways of dealing with the coup the Uchiha were planning than killing them all (but make no mistake there definitely was a coup, the Uchiha massacre wasn't undertaken for the lolz). He's also left Danzo and Orochimaru running around doing their nonsense, which, really my dude? Really? Come on.

So yeah, not your garden variety nice old grandpa after all.

For his part, Obito was a child in great pain groomed by a completely unhinged demigod of a man into an adult of great resentment. Between the Kyubi attack, the Uchiha massacre, the Akatsuki's actions and the Ninja War, he caused numerous deaths and destruction. And I mean numerous. The death toll of the shinobi war is something I really don't see discussed enough, which is probably why it gets so easily swept aside in the face of his own personal tragedy.

And it baffles me, the hostility with which people will talk about Hiruzen in their very serious metas and his place in the Uchiha massacre like it's some form of hate-prompted slaughter he orchestrated and not a (bloody and questionable) reaction to an opposing political force trying to take over Konoha. While comparatively being so apologetic of Obito's actions who very much participated to that same massacre.

It's a strange thing, to criticize the shinobi system and yet refuse to acknowledge that this very system has a hold on everyone, not just singled out faves.

I don't particularly like Hiruzen. As a fanfic writer, he has his place and uses to me because of his own ties to the characters I'm interested in writing about. But he's not likeable to me.

I don't really like Obito either, but I'll also admit part of that dislike would be more neutral if he wasn't key player in my most hated arc of Naruto, and if fandom was more normal about him, so that's on me.

I just think it's kind of a shame to make one character some sort of scapegoat, and another a tragic antihero failed by the system, and deny the connections between them all, and the fact they were all, ultimately, failed by that system. We lose nuance there, which is sad because nuance is where analysis flourishes.

(And also this is how you get people calling the Uchiha massacre a genocide and my dudes I am trying very hard not to fandom wank, but you guys are terrible for my blood pressure)

[leportraitducadavre]

I have 3 long questions that have been bothering me for a while.

1)What actual evidence Konoha had to suspect the Uchiha Clan after the Kyuubi's attack?

I've reread some of my issues and noticed that Minato never actually passed on his info about his confrontation with the masked man (Obito) to the Leaf. He suspected he was an Uchiha, Madara, but he went from his fight straight to the Kyuubi and then straight to the shinigami's belly. he really chose to die instead of raising his son, I can't believe there's a dad worse than Boruto!Sasuke

So what evidence they had to point the finger at the Uchiha Clan? There were bodies left behind and the Kyuubi was summoned through a jutsu to Konoha, instead of breaking out by itself and rushing over from the hideout, so everyone can see that it wasn't just the complications from childbirth breaking the seal but an actual attack by someone. The only one who managed a contract with the tailed beast was Madara, but he only managed that after he left the clan didn't he?

Did Konoha really just go full racism (because they were halfway there) against the Uchiha without any proof? they were right in the end, but honestly i think it's their fault for not attempting to retrieve Obito's body so screw them

2) Was Obito's attack on Kushina a genuine attempt on extracting the Kyuubi?

The order of events are a bit weird but I don't think Nagato summoned the Gedo Mazo at the time of Naruto's birth, so was Obito just gonna sit on the Kyuubi until then? It was the best time to attack and he dealt a big blow against Konoha, but what was the plan after that?

3)Was the Uchiha Massacre part of the plan by Madara and/or Obito, or was it just a side venture?

In one hand, the order came from Konoha. In the other, Obito definitely knew what was going to happen after doing something only an Uchiha has done before.

Could Obito have consciously implicated the Uchiha with the Kyuubi attack?

They had not a single shred of evidence that someone within the clan controlled the Kyuubi, they based their theory of an Uchiha monitoring its actions upon their prior knowledge of Madara’s capacity to control it; they decided that the possibility of one of them incurring in such behavior was enough to move the entirety of the clan to the outskirts of the village, reinforcing their surveillance via Anbu. They weren’t “right in the end” because their suspicions implied that an individual/group within the clan orchestrated the attack, and Obito operated from outside it and Konoha. It was the government's actions against the Uchiha, supported by these unfounded suspicions, that gave Madara (and not even to the man himself but to his mistrust, passed on by word of mouth after his desertion) enough supporters inside the family, who started to voice complains about their mistreatment and sought change –diplomatically at first. Itachi learned prior to their massacre that there was, in fact, someone who presented himself as Madara lurking in the village’s borders, a founder that the clan itself turned against when he wanted to leave the village, Itachi either conveniently kept such information until after the UCM or the Elders willingly ignored such data, choosing to solve their diplomatic struggles with one of the founder’s clan by massacring them entirely. Itachi even sought Obito’s help to kill his family, further proving that he knew “Madara” operated outside the clan and Konoha, as he was willing to kill those who “turned his back to him.”

Yes, Obito planned to extract the Kyubi and break havoc in the village (he summoned the Kyuubi upon Rin’s grave, that should tell you a lot of his reasoning), I’m not sure if he planned to seal the Kyuubi inside someone specifically for harvesting it after more easily, or if he wanted it to roam free until he could use Nagato’s eyes to summon the Gedo Mazo (using it in the meantime). Likely his plan was hardly thought through, as he gained information about Kushina giving birth by spying on Kakashi, so he knew the seal that kept Kurama inside her was to weaken due to her condition. He even became far more patient after Kyuubi’s attack, so perhaps he was mostly impulsive and was able to tame his emotions far better after such an experience.

I believe that the massacre, while not part of the original plan, became an important aspect of their ultimate goal, as by killing the Uchiha, Obito guaranteed that there would be few Sharingan-wielders that could compromise their plan. Obito’s logic was that no matter what he did in the real world, nothing of it would have any say in the IT universe, as everything can be undone or modified at his will.

Could Obito have consciously implicated the Uchiha with the Kyuubi attack?

No, I don't think he did it consciously, after all, he didn't make sure someone outside Minato knew of his implication in the matter, that was something that happened outside his control.

[comikadraws]

I wonder why minato sealed kyuubi in Naruto when there could've and should've been other measures/solutions, esp because that caused Naruto to suffer for most of his life. poor kid was also in danger most of the time because certain people saw him a s a weapon.

Sorry for the very, very late reply.

In all honesty, I get both sides of this argument. Yes, the decision to make Naruto a human weapon (essentially) ruined his life. But it's not exactly like the alternatives were too promising...

The Situation Overview

Minato is dealing with two disasters at once.

The present disaster: Konoha is in shambles. The casualties are high, the Kyubi is without a host and keeps shooting Tailed Beast Bombs. It is safe to assume that Minato is one of the few (if not only) people who have the ability to seal the beast. And if he doesn't, the odds are that the entire village might be destroyed.

Village =/= government but village = ninja and civilian population and supply of necessities.

The future disaster: Obito. He escaped and Minato and the latter is fully aware that the masked man will turn into a problem in the future. From Minato's point of view, even if Konoha is saved today, the village (or the world even) will need a countermeasure against the masked man in the future.

The first problem necessitates that the Kyubi is sealed. The second one determines the vessel.

The Sealing Problem

The Kyubi needs to be sealed for obvious reasons. The question is: Who is going to be the Jinchuriki?

In the case of Kushina, she is dying. It is, of course, possible to save a Jinchuriki by re-sealing the Biju, but we can guess from context (as well as the fact that Minato had to be told of the possibility by Kyubi/Gaara) that this was unknown to Minato and Kushina at the time.

The problem with a dying Jinchuriki is that after they die, the Biju disappears temporarily until reborn a couple of years later. It's a temporary fix, only solving one of two problems (and also Bijuu balance bullshit).

That's why it cannot be Kushina.

To seal away the entirety of the Kyubi, an exceptionally strong chakra is required that is usually only found within Uzumakis (and rare even among them). But aside from Naruto and Kushina, there were no known Uzumakis present - Especially none with the right chakra to suppress the Kyubi.

This is why Minato is required to split the chakra of the Kyubi in order to seal it. This now creates the need for two Jinchuriki.

Why Naruto?

Now here's the big question. Why choose your own baby as the Jinchuriki?

Minato's reasoning is mostly built on two things. One is the before-mentioned masked man aka. Obito who plans to take over the world. The other is Gamamaru's prophecy. According to him and Jiraiya, there's a great catastrophe lurking just around the corner that will be stopped by one of Jiraiya's students.

Personal feelings aside, Minato makes the correct conclusion that there's a good chance said student will be Naruto. By making Naruto a Jinchuriki, Minato is essentially providing him with a power-up against whatever threat he will be forced to deal with as the child of prophecy.

Why Did Minato Use The Reaper Death Seal?

Another question fans might ask is why Minato decided to use the Reaper Death Seal (instead of any other seal that doesn't kill the user). After all, Minato didn't have to die and Naruto could have had a father in his life at the very least. Here's what I found:

The Reaper Death Seal is the only way to bypass the "dead Jinchuriki" problem I mentioned earlier. It allows the user to take a Biju down with them permanently. Minato wants to avoid at all costs that Obito can acquire both halves.

The Reaper Death Seal is the only sealing jutsu that is ever shown to have the ability to split (not just the chakra of but) a being into two. But take this last one with a barrel of salt as it is only a theory.

Kushina also couldn't use the Reaper Death Seal. The exact reasons are unclear, but Minato states that as a non-Jinchuriki, the seal he can use is the Reaper Death Seal. This sentence has multiple interpretations:

No Jinchuriki (or former Jinchuriki) can use the Reaper Death Seal.

Kushina, having been in the role of Jinchuriki, is in no physical condition to use the seal.

Non-Jinchuriki can only use the Reaper Death Seal.

Minato believes that the seal won't turn him into a Jinchuriki (even though it does).

All three of these reasonings seem weird but in this context, number 1 and 2 make the most sense. Otherwise, Kushina would be offering to use the jutsu instead.

Reaper Death Seal is known only to a select few, to the point that Orochimaru has never heard of it. That leaves only Minato and Hiruzen as potential candidates to perform the jutsu. Though it is unclear whether Hiruzen knew the Reaper Death Seal at this current point in time or would have been quick enough to follow Minato into his teleportation jutsu before Kyubi's Bijuu Dama hit.

Conclusion

In case you haven't noticed yet, Kishimoto, when writing that chapter, was desperately trying to somehow justify Minato's decision to make Naruto a Jinchuriki and die in the process. Hence there are multiple ass-pulls, retcons, and forgotten lore here and there.

Ignoring the obvious lore struggles that Kishimoto had, most of Minato's decisions were very reasonable except his decision to make Naruto a Jinchuriki. This weird overconfidence in children and infants, unfortunately, is normal in Narutoland and condoned by their society, though, in case the 6-year-olds at the military training academy are anything to go by.

Was sealing Kyubi into Naruto the right decision in the end? Yes. But was it a reasonable conclusion to come to? No.

The only reason it worked out at all (or why Minato got the idea in the first place), in the end, was plot armor.

[team7-headquarter]

Some stuff that could have happened that would have affected the Konoha 12 before they were even the Konoha 12 we know:

Naruto could have become a missing min after Mizuki told him about the kyubi decree.

Tenten could have left to become Tsunade's apprentice outside of Konoha.

Shino could have ended up in Root, instead of his brother.

Sakura might have not entered the Academy and kept being bullied, if she hadn't met Ino.

Rock Lee might not have made it so far if he hadn't met Gai sensei.

Ino could have been best friends with other kunoichis with different talents.

Sasuke could have grown up with his family intact if Shisui and Itachi had found a way to make their plan work.

Hinata could have been murdered as a kid instead of being simply kidnapped.

Hiashi could have been the one killed to free Hinata, so Neji would have grown up with his dad and Hinata and Hanabi being closer (?)

Kurenai could have stayed a chuning and someone else could have taken her place as a sensei (who knows who...)

Kiba could have been assigned to Kakashi's team.

Other alternatives:

Naruto could have grown up with both his parents alive and not being a jinchuriki.

They could have stolen Hinata's eyes when they kidnapped her.

Neji could have gone a missing nin after they sacrificed his father.

Ino could have been mean and part of the group of girls bullying Sakura.

Sasuke could have died during the Land of the Waves mission.

Sakura could have grown full of hatred and rage and wishing vengeance from all the bullying of her childhood.

Rock Lee could have died during the surgery, as Tsunade warned him so, sending Gai into depression or even suicide.

Tenten could have stayed a civilian instead of joining the academy.

Shikamaru could have made it to anbu still as a kid if he had been motivated enough.

Mizuki could have been their primary sensei instead of Iruka.

Sai could have been part of the Konoha 12 since the beginning.

[lunaneko14]

Ya know I was just thinking how Both Naruto and Hinata are the youngest members of Konoha 12 Squad( Naruto being born in October 10 and Hinata in December 27) and They were the First ones to date, get married and had a baby before anyone else..😅😂And They didn't Stop there. They went for Himawari too ( This time with Kyubi mode 😏) They were So crazy in Love that they didn't even wait. They were like, ' I may be young but I'm ready. ' And Naruto could've become Hokage right after his marriage But No. He decided to be there for His wife and babies🥺😭 It's really Sickening when Antis claim Naruto would rather choose to be in the Hokage office than with His family. What they don't understand is that Naruto postponed His Dream for nearly 10 years and Chose his family over being Hokage. It's only after his kids were a little grown up that he took up the Job. Can't They really see all those Beautiful Family Photos !? And even after His stressful Job He still made time for his family. And When He Helps Hinata with the domestic chores like washing dishes and all I can't help but gush What a Sweet Husband He is 😍 I just love How he sneaks in to the Kitchen to be with Hinata😂 Gushing over his first date with Hinata infront of his Son😂No wonder Boruto Calls him Lovestruck. I'm just Happy that My Otp are still So much in love with each other and Antis Need to Calm The Fuck Down.

Exactly

[the-real-sasuke-uchiha]

Konoha’s leaders though the Uchiha had the means to control Kyubi and yet, they sent them away instead of having them stopping the attack. They had an obvious solution in hand, and still, they preferred to let the beast go rampant, causing death and destruction, ready to sacrifice as many lives as necessary. Just because they though the Uchiha could take the opportunity to end their reign of oppression.

Will of Fire and “greater good” all you want. Unless the “greater good” comes at the price of a remote, unrealistic chance of losing power.

[senjutsunade]

This blog is penned by Typo Queen. So yes, you will see a lot of typo's on here. They are the bane of my existence.

This blog primarily functions on AU's with Finger Seizure (FS - @konohagakurekakashi) & Crazy Insomniac ( CI - @minaa-munch).

Beyond the AU's default verse will be Godiame days.

The blog follows this TIMELINE.

This blog welcomes creative asks. Rude ones and ones with sexual innuendos will be ignored and deleted. Character building ones will be respected and adored.

This blog will NOT write smut. Never. Its off the table. Nothing can convince the mun otherwise.

There are an endless amount of HC's on this blog. The basic idea stays the same but there are head-canons and references that might be unexpected. ➤ Tsunade's mother is a Yamanaka. ➤ Inoichi is Tsunade's second cousin. ➤ Namikaze Minato (whose grandmother was a Yamanaka) is third cousins with Tsunade. Headcanon shared with @minaa-munch. ➤ Tsunade knew kid Kakashi. After Sakumo's death, she'd sometimes bring the brat groceries and was gracious enough to allow him to cook her dinner. Kindness may as well be her middle name. Headcanon shared with @konohagakurekakashi. ➤ Tsunade was temporary sensei of the Inoichi, Shikaku and Choza's gennin team while their sensei was recovering from a bad injury. She led the cell for a month. ➤ Tsunade is not as 'light' as typically considered. During the second shinobi war, she wasn't just creating antidotes to Chiyo's poisons. She was also manipulating the formula to make them deadlier and use them against Suna. Quite a few of the techniques used by the T&I are failed medical technique experiments of hers. She is a kunoichi first and foremost. ➤ She cares deeply for her team-mates. They are all fucked up in their own ways and drift apart but her feelings for them never change. Even after she becomes Godiame, and Orochimaru is considered enemy, does not mean she does not care for the stupid snake and she mourns his 'death' as she mourns Jiraiya, later on. This is why you will see a LOT of sannin content on here. Those three deserved better, damn it!

A lot of stuff you sill see on here is from the following verses:

#Blind Incandescence - Detective AU

Tsunade, a medical student in her final year, abandons her dreams to seek justice for her murdered brother, Senju Nawaki. Frustrated with the lack of progress, she teams up with rookie detective Namikaze Minato. Their investigation reveals a larger conspiracy, leading them to start a successful private investigation company. Three years later, a promising tip results in the murders of Minato, his partner Kushina, and the informant, leaving Tsunade in deeper despair and in charge of the agency alone. Nearly a decade later, she continues to search for answers while running Konoha's top detective agency with her partners (who also act as headaches) Hatake Kakashi and Uchiha Itachi.

#Survivors Guilt - Minato Lives AU

Things did not go as planned during Naruto's birth. Minato had expected to die alongside Kushina, their fates intertwined in a final act of sacrifice. But fate had other designs-he survived. Heartbroken and shattered by the loss of his beloved, he was left to care for their newborn son. The Kyubi's chakra, however, began to devour him from within. Unlike Kushina, he did not possess the Uzumaki bloodline to shield him from the sinister side effects of sealing a biju's chakra within himself. Kakashi stood by, a terrified and powerless as he watched his mentor's agony unfold. Desperation gnawed at him, propelling him to seek the one person who might be able to save Minato - Senju Tsunade. Yet she was a ghost, a legend hidden within the vast, unforgiving expanses of the Shinobi world. Days turned into a relentless countdown. Each passing moment, a step closer to Minato's demise. With time slipping through their fingers, hope seemed as elusive as the winds whispering through the leaves of Konoha, and the shadows of the past closed in around them, darker and more foreboding, with each heartbeat.

#Ten Miles Too Close - Rogue Minato AU

Set against the backdrop of war-torn Konoha - Minato is a rogue shinobi who finds himself haunted by his past and his unfulfilled dreams. He struggles with the weight of his choices, particularly the decision that led him to become a missing-nin, an outcast from his village, Konoha. Tsunade seeks him out, bringing into the narrative her own bitterness over Konoha's need to keep taking from her shinobi. Bitterness and distrust festering within her, she is relentless in her questioning of his choices. His encounter with Tsunade makes the two navigate the delicate balance between trust and betrayal, loyalty, regret, and the haunting specter of their shared history.

#Rinne-Whoops (Who Died and Brought you Back out)

The title says it all really. Was meant to be a thread. Mutated into a novella. Didn't stop there.... The gist of it is Pein's final resurrection had unintended consequences, bringing back more than it should have. The yondaime has risen again - a return neither he nor Konoha is prepared for. 

For more details, there is a whole rules page, verses page and headcanons page - all forever a work in progress project.

[depressedhatakekakashi]

May I ask for extreme details on the age swap au? I'm not sure how it works.

Is it just effecting the Konoha 12, their teachers and maybe the sand siblings and a few notable shibobi? So those who were 12-13 are now 26 and the 26-27 year olds are now the students? Did the Uchiha massacre still happen if so, how? The issues that lead up to it were complicated, but I don't think they would have happened if Naruto/his father was alive. Is Minato still alive as the 4th Hokage? Did he die with Kushina again and was Naruto an orphan? Who released the nine tails if Madara was too old and Obito is now itty bitty.

How did Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke react to growing up in a time of war instead of a time of peace, especially in one of the most bloodiest wars in the ninja world. Is Itachi alive? Is he in his 30's and still flicking Sasuke in the face and embarrassing him in punlic,, or did he succumb to his chakra disease early in life?

Sakumo must have been alive and was a peer to Naruto, at most he would be a bit older. Were they friends? Did Naruto try to talk-no-jutsu him out of Suicide? The village's view on teammates vs. Missions seems to have pivoted after the 3rd great shinobi war where, at least in Konoha, friendships and teammates meant more than the mission. Maybe not for everyone, but probably due to the overwhelming loses everyone's POV shifted and they seem to care for each other a lot more. Would he feel the same pressure to commit suicide and leave his baby boy if less people turned their back on him?

Were Dai and Lee friends?! Rivals?! BROTHERS?! On the same team at one point?! Did Lee learn the gates from Dai?! Or was Dai just Lee's father in this and Gai was Lee's secret half brother/ a random village kid with no relation to Dai?

If Madara was still alive that means the reincarnation of indra and asura could not be Naruto and Sasuke. Who are they now? Is it Obito and Kakashi? Are they destined to stop the cycle of hatred and bring peace to the ninja world?!

I'm sorry I have so many questions, but the characters of Naruto are deeply entwined with their world and the time in which they grew up. Their environment ends up shaping who they become. So unlike a lot of stories, I think just switching the character rolls and places it a little harder in a age swap like this where almost every character has a pivotal roll in the time they grew up.

I hope this was not a rude ask.

It’s not really hard at all to change things.

Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura grew up in war and are a little rougher around the edges because of it but otherwise the exact same personalities. Naruto is a sunshine personality, Sakura has anger issues but is a top notch medical ninja, and it’s Sasuke who takes Obito’s place.

Kakashi and Obito are the reincarnations, but instead of it just being them who can fix everything in the end Rin actually plays a role in fighting and helping them beat Kaguya instead of just being sent in the end to stop her with a punch.

Madara still dies and the reincarnation cycle starts anew with Kakashi and Obito.

Sakumo and Dai are more Sensei age, just as Minato is Sensei age for Kakashi, Naruto and Rin.

Minato and Kushina are well known shinobi who were skilled and ruthless, but Minato never becomes Hokage here. It’s Sakumo who takes the title of the fourth and through a very skilled Naruto who has grown a lot (and is a few years older) and had a chance to learn uzumaki techniques from his mother is able to seal the Kyubi into Kakashi. (kakashi is the ninetails here)

Dai would have been Lee’s Sensei and someone who picked Lee up as a student before he left the academy and helped him train. He’s not actually Lee’s official Sensei, but he is the one who takes him under his wing and teaches him his style, and then has Gai later when Lee is around 14. So lee is not blood related but a big part of Gai’s life.

Hiruzen is still the third (honestly i don’t see Tsunade, Sakumo or Minato going through with the massacure at all so it has to stay him) with Tsunade, Jiraiya and Orochimaru still being the Sannin (though i do have fic with Danzo being the one Kakashi leaves the village to train under, but that is not for this)

Sakumo was Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura’s Sensei and although Sasuke ‘died’ young Sakumo kept a good connection with Naruto and Sakura and refused to allow Hiruzen to set asude some of their stringest shinobi during the Kyubi attack.

They were good enough to fight in a war when they were 10, they are good enough to help protect the village rather than being force to stand around and watch people die knowing they can’t do shit.

Naruto used the Reaper death seal, and i know ‘he was supposed to die’ but like, f*** that i think that Sakumo shoved him out of the way and the death god actually accepted that for some unexplainable reason and took Sakumo instead (who was dying anyways as he was the previous jinchurriki)