#Killer sans vs Nightmare

[lisa972kdlz]

Puny God :

(Piètre Dieu)

«You really think you can impress me with what you have to oppose ?»

«A bunch of brats...»

«A brother who has lost his sparkle...»

«The shadow of myself...»

«...And a little whore.»

English (translated with Deepl) :

Drawing and inking done by me, and the gorgeous, professional and transcendent colors are by @aeryth-lc (she's talented my girl isn'it? She's talented (☆▽☆) !)

This is an extract from an as yet unwritten story about her Multiverse Manzanoverse ! Or rather, a Multiverse crossover, as Corrupted Nightmare (Kerosene to you and me) and Merciless are not part of it.

We've gone to such lengths for this single extract because it means so much to an Undertale and AU's fan, and to a Killer fan.

It was a real PLEASURE to draw him kicking Nightmare' ass !

Underverse has given our favorite characters moments to shine, to encourage us to respect them in the Fanbase. Thanks to it, Blue and Dream are more badass, Cross has been able to break free...

But there was nothing it could do for Killer for now 😭

How many times have I seen depictions of him as stupid, masochistic, sexually and literaly submissive?

I usually don't ask for reblogs, but please, we have to make Killer rebel, this character has the right to evolve 🙏 at least make your own fanarts, let's create a wave with a hashtag like #freekillersans for exemple !

In any case, here and now, it's his finest hour ✨ let's be happy for him

(aaaand if you could correct it in English to help me improve that would be great too, thank you very much 👍!)

Français :

Dessin et encrage fait par moi, et les magnifiques, professionnelles et transcendantes couleurs sont de @aeryth-lc (hein qu'elle est douée ma copine ? hein qu'elle est douée (⁠☆⁠▽⁠☆⁠) ?)

Il s'agit d'un extrait d'une histoire pas encore écrite concernant son Multivers Manzanoverse (ou plutôt un croisement de Multivers car Nightmare corrompu (Kérosène pour les intimes) et Merciless n'en font pas partie) !

Si on s'est donné tant de mal pour ce simple extrait, c'est qu'il représente énormément pour un fan d'Undertale et AU's et un fan de Killer.

C'était un véritable PLAISIR de le dessiner en train de botter le cul de Nightmare !

Underverse a offert à nos personnages préférés des moments où ils ont pu briller afin de nous inciter à les respecter au sein de la Fanbase, grâce à cette série Blue et Dream sont plus badass, Cross a pu s'émanciper...

Mais elle n'a rien pu faire pour Killer actuellement 😭

Combien de fois j'ai vu des représentations de lui stupide, masochiste, soumis sexuellement et littéralement ?

D'habitude je ne demande pas de rebloger, mais s'il vous plaît, il faut faire en sorte que Killer se rebelle, ce personnage a le droit d'évoluer 🙏 ou bien faites vos propres fanarts, créons une vague avec un hashtag genre #freekillersans par exemple

En tout cas, ici et maintenant, c'est son heure de gloire ✨ soyons heureux pour lui

Killer!Sans belongs to @/rahaf-wabas

Nightmare belongs to @/jokublog

Merciless belongs to @/Mommysnoodraw (not on Tumblr)

Shattered!Dream belongs to @/Galacii-gallery

Lux belongs to @/alainaprana

Paperjam belongs to @/7goodangel

Starway belongs to @/lunnar-chan

Aéryth and Manzanoverse belongs to @/aeryth-lc

[antivoiid]

it was stuck in my head

[mildarka]

please I'm begging you, do you have anything more about your reverted au that you can share. I'm honestly obsessed with it

is this anything??? idk???

[howlsofbloodhounds]

Hey, I was thinking, and was wondering: what do you think of how Killer was portrayed in Underverse? I've heard kind of mixed thoughts and I was curious what you thought

Not enough screen time to really be sure at the moment, but I liked the talk he had with XChara and the way he was taunting Dream in the fight.

With the way fandom often portrays him it would’ve been very easy to just make him weak and lame for the laughs and completely ignore his competence, experience, and strength. To ignore why Nightmare took an interest in him and only him.

However I do think he was far too emotional and angry for being in Stage 2, Stage 2 wouldn��t have two eyelights like he did in Underverse (only one, which is supposed to be a sign of the Sans we know, and I doubt we’d get any signs of him in a brutal fight like this unless the pain suddenly shocked Stage 2 into awareness & forced him to be somewhat present), he really wouldn’t give a single fuck about cheating or “lime-light” hogging, and he wouldn’t have just given up and lied down on the floor.

Not when that means risking getting replaced or facing a punishment for it. I think he would’ve kept fighting until Nightmare called him off or he physically couldn’t anymore. I did like the use of his Gaster Blaster and the way he chomped on Dream’s legs, how he very suddenly and quickly came in and fought.

All in all i definitely think killer would’ve left that fight with more than just a broken arm simply because breaking that arm wouldn’t have made him stop fighting—as evidenced by the way he had an arm completely torn off and yet was detached enough from the pain to say he was completely fine in one of rahafwabas’ drawings.

I also thought it was funny how he and Nightmare just stood idly by watching Error and Ink fight. Little bro had his hands in his pockets and was chilling. Also character telling moment that Nightmare was sitting down with his legs crossed, and Killer remained attentive and standing close by.

{ @the-selfinsert }

[yourfriendlybi]

I'm thinkin about Ink and Killers relationship in Chasmverse

Ink constantly apologizing for Nightmare's actions and Killer standing there, trying to digest the fact Nightmare (& Dream) are Ink's unofficial adopted sons

And just overall, Ink's offering to do some stuff for Killer (ex fixing Killers codes, give him wood for wood carving, etc)

[cornmayor]

SANS AU TUMBLR SEXYMAN MASTERPOST

[Updates everyday]

All polls are on my twitter account (yes I know not here, sorry xD)

ROUND 1

Seraphim (The Thought by TratserEnoyreve) vs FellSwap Sans (FellSwap Gold by Blackgum)

Fell (UnderFell by Fella/Vic) vs Color (OtherTale by Super Youmna)

Cross (XTale by Jael Peñaloza) vs Murder (DustTale by ask-dusttale)

Swap (UnderSwap by p0pcornPr1nce) vs Fatal!Error by Xedramon

Error by CrayonQueen vs Horror (HorrorTale by Sour-Apple-Studios)

Saness (UnderPants by Sr Pelo) vs Killer by Rahafwabas

Epic (EpicTale by yugogeer12) vs Reaper (ReaperTale by Ren)

SwapDream by Song_A and Litemong vs Nightmare (DreamTale by Jokublog)

Insans (Alive by tatatale) vs Crossbones (TS!Underswap by Team Switched)

Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) vs Bill!Sans by Hwamyong

Fresh by CrayonQueen vs Outer (OuterTale by 2mi127)

Slash by ProductionRoxy vs Ganz (GZTale by NyriaTamare)

Dream (DreamTale by Jokublog) vs Pale!Ink by Unu-nunium

Fresh!Ink by Comyet vs Therapist by tehRogue

Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen) vs G!Sans by Borurou (EchoTale by Yoralim)

Arz by DanielaVE vs Lust (UnderLust by NSFWshamecave)

Round 1 results

ROUND 2

FellSwap Sans (FellSwap Gold by Blackgum) vs Fell (UnderFell by Fella/Vic)

Cross (XTale by Jael Peñaloza) vs Swap (UnderSwap by p0pcornPr1nce)

Error by CrayonQueen vs Killer by Rahafwabas

Reaper (ReaperTale by Ren) vs Nightmare (DreamTale by Jokublog)

Crossbones (TS!Underswap by Team Switched) vs Ink (_____Tale by Comyet)

Fresh by CrayonQueen vs Ganz (GZTale by NyriaTamare)

Dream (DreamTale by Jokublog) vs Fresh!Ink by Comyet

Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen) vs Lust (UnderLust by NSFWshamecave)

Round 2 results

ROUND 3

Fell (UnderFell by Fella/Vic) vs Cross (XTale by Jael Peñaloza)

Error by CrayonQueen vs Nightmare (DreamTale by Jokublog)

Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) vs Fresh by CrayonQueen

Dream (DreamTale by Jokublog) vs Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen)

Round 3 results

SEMIFINAL

Cross (XTale by Jael Peñaloza) vs Error by CrayonQueen

Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) vs Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen)

Semifinal results

FINALE

Error by CrayonQueen vs Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen)

ERROR WON

[1choclo]

Bad guy's vs randoms guy's

who will win???????????

Nightmare sans by @jokublog

Killer sans by @rahafwabas

Horror sans by @sour-apple-studios

Dust sans by @ask-dusttale

Moon and Orión by me 🌟

[signanothername]

Reading your head canon, I am surprised that each Murder agreed to work with Nightmare instead of a duel to death and be passively aggressive instead of fully aggressive and non-compliant, and use any knowledge of Nightmare and Killer to hit them where it hurts. Since Nightmare cannot destroy AUs like Error, Murder's only fear would be his own death, not due to the pain, but because of his own self-penance to haunt Dusttale alone and stop the human. Like when he is "recruited" by Nightmare or as you mention in your head canon, brought back by Killer, I would still think Murder would make sure the fights either end with his win or his death. After all, Murder values his autonomy and freedom. Because even if Murder is an adaptive, intelligent tactician, he is still a mortal compared to Nightmare, he would realize he has reached a dead end, so death is the only option, compared to working with two people that remind of the human that he hates. Well, the only reason I see Murder pretending to be compliant is to probably plan a betrayal and join Dream, as Dream is the only weapon against Nightmare, maybe even try to train him, because he doesn't care about Dream, but Nightmare is as bad or worse than the human, so by Murder's logic, he should be put down. Otherwise he has no ability to travel home or power to harm Nightmare, so as mentioned above death is the only other option. Over all, it could be argued that every Murder!Sans has a lot of reasons to defy or fight Nightmare, even if it causes his death. Plus I still think Murder vs Killer wouldn't be so one sided for Killer, since Murder, as Sans spent more time improving his skills during the resets compared to the loads Killer, as Sans spent fighting Chara over and over. So beside loading, I still think Murder might have an edge in battle experience and intelligence.

The ask Anon is referring to for context <33

Oh Murder was not compliant, not at all Anon, in fact, that’s exactly why I think Murder gets replaced the most, it’s because of how non-compliant he is, I don’t think Murder would ever agree to join the gang, I never said he would

You’ll notice I only talked about his passive aggressiveness with Killer specifically in the Murder Time Trio ask, and in fact, do talk about how Murder would pry into Killer’s private matters all just to piss him off, I never went on about Murder’s relationship with Nightmare in depth

And I didn’t go in depth cause the previous ask was for the Murder Time Trio as a whole, and their relationship with each other, so I couldn’t just talk about Murder in depth or in much detail as I wanted cause otherwise I would’ve absolutely diverted from the main point of that ask

But now that I have this beautiful ask I can actually go in depth as much as I want >:)

And you’re absolutely right that Nightmare can’t destroy AUs, the most Nightmare could do is lay waste to the Au, but Dusttale is already a wasteland so nothing much Nightmare could do there, that’s exactly why I say that Murder would try his luck and run back to his Au (and continue on doing it over and over), and it’s exactly why I say that Nightmare struggles with controlling Murder the most, cause Nightmare has no true power over him mentally, Murder doesn’t care about dying by Nightmare’s hand and he knows he could try his luck as much as Nightmare’s patience allows

Murder would definitely perfer death over being under Nightmare, cause if he can’t be useful enough to save his Au from the human what’s the point?

In fact allow me to be bold and say that I wholeheartedly believe Murder is also the hardest to “recruit” by Nightmare, cause I genuinely believe that in some timelines, the Murder that was supposed to be recruited by Nightmare just offed himself before Nightmare could get ahold of him, cause again, better death than be taken away from his Au, something that Nightmare has grown wise to and usually tries to knock Murder out before he tries such extreme measures, then later Nightmare controls Murder in certain ways once he’s got Murder under him

But here’s the thing, when we talk about Murder and Nightmare’s relationship, only looking at one side of the coin (in this context Murder) is missing the point in my humble opinion, cause yes, Murder does prefer death, and yes Murder would be aggressive and noncompliant, but how does Nightmare deal with that? Cause in every relationship there are multiple sides to look at, not just one

Cause while Murder prefers death, wouldn’t it make sense to also believe that Murder would want to preserve his life to be able to get back to his Au and stop the human? I mean Murder cares this much about his Au doesn’t he?

And that’s exactly why I previously mentioned Nightmare’s emotional/mental manipulation tactics, Nightmare knows Murder would try to preserve his life IF he has hope he can get back to his Au, so Nightmare LETS Murder get back to his Au from time to time, all to give Murder the false hope that he can get away, that false hope contributes to Murder thinking that death isn’t the only way out, further lengthening Murder’s stay under Nightmare, all while Nightmare uses the “you can go back to your Aus” card as some sort of reward for “good work”, to condition Murder to (very reluctantly) work for Nightmare to get this “reward”, all while “bad behavior” aka Murder trying to run back to his Au on his own (which literally doesn’t work cause Murder doesn’t have the ability to hop between Aus) means Nightmare punishes Murder by forbidding him from going to his Au, which usually ends with Murder clawing at Nightmare, which only further worsens his punishment

So as time goes on you can imagine Nightmare understanding Murder enough to be able to get to a point in which he can condition Murder enough so he becomes a bit less hostile just to get his chances to get back to his Au, only to be dragged back by Killer when Nightmare deems Murder has had enough “home time”

And here’s an interesting question, why won’t Nightmare go himself to get Murder back from his Au? It’ll be a lot easier and less time and source consuming wouldn’t it?

And to me? No it’s not cause he’s an all mighty King and he just sits on his ass doing nothing and lets his underlings do the dirty work for him (cause while i believe Nightmare deems some things as “beneath him” I despise the idea that Nightmare is an absolute lazy bitch that doesn’t do anything but monologue, which is why I interpret Nightmare my own way) in fact, I like to think Nightmare is so fucking obsessed with being in control, that in fact he’s sure to keep everything under his watchful eye, he knows every little thing about his prey (in this instance it’s the Murder Time Trio) he knows what they do, how, and when, he knows every little weakness and every little strength they hold, he understands them to the littlest detail in order to keep control over them

And in my interpretation of Nightmare, sending Killer instead of going himself is just another manipulation tactic, Nightmare knows Murder would be a bit confident in his ability to fight (and even win) against Killer, something that he won’t believe if it was Nightmare himself that came to get him, it further engraves that false hope that Murder can get away one day, if (or “when” in Murder’s view) he wins against Killer

Which brings me to the question, is Killer vs Murder one sided for Killer? No I don’t believe it is, in fact I agree that Murder has spent his time refining his skills and experience, however, let’s not forget Killer also is just as intelligent as Murder is, I for one think Killer and Murder are almost on bar with each other in terms of who wins or loses

I’m not going to sit here and pretend I’m not biased towards Killer, cause I definitely am, it’s very obvious that he’s my favorite, so please don’t take my interpretation as an objective correct analysis of their fight, i’ll be simply talking from my humble (very biased) opinion

However if we think logically, Killer has a few things Murder doesn’t, and these would be 1-inability to recognize his body’s limit, 2-his soul’s stages, and 3-a much higher LV than Murder’s

Murder is at LV 19 mostly, Killer, while Rahafwabas has stated they’ll leave it up to interpretation, has been shown in a comic to have a glitched LV of 99999, which in my opinion makes sense considering the Determination Killer’s soul holds, and it automatically means that Killer’s stronger than Murder (if we wanted to get technical at least)

But I don’t like technicalities in analysis of fights so that brings me to the points I’m actually interested in

Something to keep in mind, is that Killer is also just as intelligent as Murder is, Killer’s mind moves just as quick as his body moves, he improvises mid battle and is generally very unpredictable, and to top it all off, Killer fights dirty, he uses any means necessary, and he doesn’t rely on raw power, but on his mind to win

Killer is also extremely observant and has a tendency to study people under a microscope, all while pretending he’s the stupidest most idiotic bitch you ever met, so Killer probably has Murder’s weaknesses memorized and probably already studied Murder enough to know how to deal with him during a battle

Not to mention, if we talk about how much experience each of them holds, then it’s really up for interpretation, cause listen, in my interpretation, I believe Murder has amazing experience, but you’re also talking about Killer, who worked under Nightmare before any of the others, meaning Killer not only has just as much experience, but Killer’s experience is vast and varied, as he fights a variety of people from completely different Aus, with different levels of powers/ intelligence, all while Murder only fights the same people under the same circumstances over and over (then again, this is really up for interpretation, your interpretation of whether Killer worked under Nightmare first or not could be different, i’m only talking from my own point of view, it’s not a hard fast truth or a correct objective interpretation, so please feel free to disagree <333)

Killer (at stage 2) doesn’t recognize his body’s limits, he in fact, thrives on pain, Killer could literally reach the point where his body would collapse at any second and yet still fight like it’s nothing, he’ll go beyond that point, Murder won’t, once Murder’s body reaches its limit it’ll immediately mean he lost, cause Killer won’t stop until A-his mission is complete and he dragged Murder back, or B-he’s dead, there’s no in between for stage 2 Killer

Which brings me to the point you mentioned which is the loading, whether Killer can save and load is really up for interpretation, cause as far as I know, there’s no canonical info on whether he can save and load, but I for one, believe he can, and how long can Murder hold his own against Killer before Murder reaches his limit? When Killer holds the same power the human (who Murder keeps losing to) holds?

Another thing to keep in mind is Killer’s stages, they provide a great advantage in terms of fighting, cause while I believe Murder can absolutely hold his own against stage 2 Killer, I don’t believe he’ll have much advantage against stage 3 Killer, and he sure as hell will not ba able to keep up against a stage 4 Killer, now whether Murder would trigger Killer enough to reach stage 3 and 4 is really up to you and what you like to think, I for one think if Murder knew about Killer’s stages, he’d be smart enough not to trigger Killer to reach those stages cause he would know he won’t win if Killer did reach them, however if Murder doesn’t know about his stages, then the possibility of Murder triggering Killer into stage 3 or 4 on accident is possible, which will not end on a good note for Murder

All that aside, do I believe that Killer always wins against Murder? No not at all, I actually like to believe that sometimes Killer wins, other times Murder wins, and other times? Killer had taken his sweet time trying to get Murder who was holding his own pretty well, that Nightmare shows up himself to take care of it (usually Nightmare would be very pissed at both of them, resulting in Killer and Murder paying grave consequences)

As for Murder working with Dream, I honestly can’t see Murder having the patience to actually work with him, cause each second he spends with Dream is another second away from his Au, and I believe Murder is smart enough to know Nightmare isn’t very easy to take down, other than the raw power and intelligence Nightmare holds, if Dream was truly able to take him down Murder would think Dream would’ve already done it, Murder is intelligent enough to recognize working with Dream would be a waste of time and effort that could’ve been used on much more important matters (such as getting back to his Au)

The only reason I’d see Murder making contact with Dream at all is to only request that Dream open a portal to his Au, only to realize whoops!! Dream can’t open a portal to a place filled with negativity, which only would frustrate the shit outta Murder

Murder’s circumstance really makes me sad ngl, the guy just wants to be back home dammit 😔

[topazshadowwolf]

So not only did you send me good asks and make awesome replies to my post but you do this?! Look at that tired goopy dad! And his boys, I love them. Watching him catch a scorpion for them, groaning at his dad joke (that he is so proud of), and just being gremlins. And that picture of him just reading while keeping Killer and Dust away from each other. I LOVE it! Dust is so angry, and Killer clearly sees it all as a joke because that's him. Sorry Nightmare, you're their dad. The mug says it all.

Been reading @topazshadowwolf's How Nightmare Became Dadmare and I have been so sucked in by this silly little family I had to start doodling

[derangedanomaly]

OVER-COPY

[UNDERTALE AU MASTERLIST]

-An AU in which Nightmare has a clone. A clone that impersonates him and overall ruins his reputation on purpose... A silly joke, or something much more serious?-

Started: 4/18/2024

Updated: 5/3/2024

CHAPTER 1

The start (PART 1)

Brother..? (PART 2)

Flirting with the crush¿? (BONUS)

Dream (PART 3)

The creation (PART 4)

Loyal...? (PART 5)

Suspicious.. (PART 6)

The creation - aftermath (PART 7)

The purpose (PART 8)

A change of mind? (PART 9)

A different form? (PART 10)

CHAPTER 2

MTT.. (PART 11)

The confrontation

The realization

The incident

FUN ASKS

Better than him?

Passive form

Discord and Chaos friendship

Chaos doodles

Jealous Nightmare

Deal pt1

Deal pt2

Deal pt3

Chaos taking a selfie with Nightmare standing behind him, set on fire, that's totally not Chaos' doing.

A copy of shattered

SQUEEZE

Kisses for Chaos

Head pats for Chaos

Cuddles for Chaos

A hug for Chaos

Smooches for the bad sanses

Purring..?

The ultimate group

Salty Nightmare

Loving him

Kissing Nightmare on the cheek

Hugs and kisses for Nightmare!

Smooching Nightmare

Cookies

MLP?!

Nightmare's "wrath"

Hand holding with Nightmare

Hugging Chaos (again lmao)

Caged

Frog

Nightmare thinking about someone? 🤔

Not alone..

A spray bottle

Lmao

Little meowmeow

Stuffed animal

Stuffed animal 2

Fist-bumb with Nightmare

Nightmares favorite flower

Bbg's

Stressed Nightmare

THE RIZZLER

Flustered Chaos

Dream and Chaos hanging out

Words

Nightmares coat

Music preference

FUN ASKS 2

Forehead kisses for Nightmare

Nightmare acting like a jerk

Shocked and appalled

More plushies

More plushies 2

Handshake

Devious thoughts

Childhood photo

EVERYONE GETS A HUG!!

Chaos And Nightmare meeting Strawberry Nightmare

This is so them lmao

Cross

The two Aces

Crazy

Stuffed animal for Chaos

Squishing Nightmares cheeks (gone wrong)

Why 'Ace'?

Playing UNO with Chaos and Nightmare

"Ew water"

What Is Chaos really?

Nervous Ace

ART

Chaos vs. Nightmare

The BOTH of them?

Cuddling?

The chart

Updated art style!!

Seduction

FACTS (Talk)

FACTS 1#

Sassy Chaos

Not having a soul

Funny Comparison

A FANFIC?!

Chaos dadmare?

Chaos being unaware

Chaos' duty

DUST SANS FACTS

KILLER SANS FACTS

IMPORTANT

Fanart

[opal-kitty333]

Thinking about Dreamtale and how the "negative au" vs. "positive au" territories work. Like always, lots of ramblings under the read more

Like I feel when things are in balance, no au is inherently positive or negative. With resets, any timeline is capable of moments of great happiness but also great tragedy. The thing is, they're fluid and ever changing. Even if you do the genocide route, it only mucks up the happy ending. But that's just the ending, which is never permanent anyway.

I feel like the only way for an au to become truly positive or negative, even the rough and tumble aus like fells, is if you forcibly give them an ending or actively alter something so you can't "play" anymore.

Imagine Nightmare cultivating entire timelines to do this. Horror timelines could be a great example. A perminant ending to the original that spirals on so much longer than it should with EVERYONE being as miserable as possible and often doing things against their own best interest because they're reaching a breaking point. Imagine corrupting timelines, forcing more and more negative emotions into a Sans until he snaps and becomes Dust.

Hell, it could be part of the reason Nightmare is so particular with any Killers he has. Because it's such a specific thing of having his soul twisted by a player/creator, Nightmare can’t influence or force that to happen. He needs to have a tighter leash on him because he's so much harder to replace. It doesn’t matter how much he alters a timeline, a home grown Killer is impossible.

It also adds more into what "missions" can be. It's not just going in and killing a bunch of people at random. Dead people don't feel emotions, positive or negative. But remove the possibility of a happy ending? Remove just the right person so the dominos in the background don't fall or make someone snap, so they never trust the human no matter what they do, all so that a true pacifistending would be impossible no matter what you did. Maybe even somehow softlocking the human so everyone is stuck in a permanent miserable limbo no matter how often they reset to try and fix it.

And then you have Dream and his "positive aus". These are obviously the ones that get happy endings, the post pacifist where Frisk promises to never reset and everyone lives their days out on the surface in harmony. The ones where everyone is happy and healing and okay.

This can be part of why Ink helps him at first. Creators like making these happy ending aus and Nightmare, of course, would want to sow seeds of political discourse to turn the surface into hell. Dreams stops that, forcing things to turn out fine again and with Ink's help, ensure the happy aus stay on track.

But that's also where Ink and Dream clash. Dream sees a Horrortale and wants to attempt to fix it, but the thing is people love making horror aus. Maybe the first few Ink is fine with fixing up because these one were MEANT to be those softer interpretations that you see floating around. But then Dream comes across one that is truly rotten, something that's more canon compliant to the original horrortale comic, maybe even worse, and Ink stops him from doing anything. such a thing would go against what the creator wants the world to be. Sure, Nightmare is the one who got the ball rolling and sunk it deeper, but these monsters in the underground were never supposed to be saved.

[lisa972kdlz]

Je n'ai pas pu résister xD

Petit montage wtf qui vient de la BD juste en dessous quand vous scrollez 👇(je vous promets que j'adore Nightmare, hein... C'est juste que j'aime encore plus lui rabaisser le caquet-)

Ah que c'est jouissif

Je suis sûre qu'il m'en voudra pas

VOUS AUSSI RENDEZ KILLER BADASS !! ✨ 🤟

I couldn't resist xD

Wtf edit from the comic right below when you scroll down 👇(I promise I love Nightmare, eh…. It's just that I love bring him down a peg or two even more-)

Ah, how enjoyable

I'm sure he won't mind

MAKE KILLER BADASS TOO !! 🤟✨

[pigeonstab]

College AU MasterPost

What is college AU? -> it's a collection of art, writing and rambles! It's a college Au as much as it is a werewolf/supernatural creatures AU and centers around Cross and his meeting with Killer.

College au Art ↓

-> Reference sheets : 1 2 teef

Sketches for Killer and Cross

Sketches for Horror and dust

Sketches for nightmare

College moment

Nightmare doodle

First meeting Vs now -Somegrumpynerd

reunion -Somegrumpynerd

College au Info -> fancy link

College au rambles -> cute link

College au writing ↓

A painful shift

Growing pains

Character exclusive tags ↓

Werewolf Cross Sans

Vampire Killer Sans

Vampire Nightmare Sans

Werewolf Horror Sans

Vampire Dust Sans

Vampire Dream Sans

Cryptid Ink Sans

Last updated nov 17th

[howlsofbloodhounds]

I love it when I see hints of chara’s influence on killer. like yes bbg use your crocodile tears and cry like a deeply hurt and wounded child to gain enough sympathy to gouge someone’s eye out.

[lovestuckstarz]

🎯Something Blue: Where it began + HCs🫐

I made this originally on twitter but due to post limitations I wanted to rant here! :D In this, I will be describing where I found Something New, why I ship Killer with Blue but not 100% as big a fan as other ships, and so on and so forth. At the very end I will list my headcanons with them :)

In 2018 on July 25th (my birthday) is the first evidence I have of ever liking this ship. The reason I know of this date is due the the image below made by @/jamesjp-things-blog and how I had a cropped version on roblox (I roleplayed shush) and it was a RP of them LOL

I believe sometime after, I found the swap vs killer animation and believed that was all and shipped them and RPed them with my ex n roblox because yeah cringe! Here is the old Killerberry ship kid I made for archive purposes (shes so ugly) + the where it started wall

Moving on! I don't exactly remember where my ideas for the ship went as in 2018 is when I left the fandom space of undertale and bullied myself out of it since Underswap was my favorite and I love all versions of swap and that was around the time the fandom hated those people

In april of 2024 (hey this year!) I decided that hating something I love with every fiber in my being was dumb so gradually came back. I started off embracing my old love for Nightberry (fan since 2016) and Horrorberry (I do not remember), two other ships i loved in the old days

Thats when I became good friends with Mae (hi) and they started talking about their AU and story and my little worm self talked about Horrorberry, Dustberry, and Nightberry but just ignored Killerberry as I forgot my love for it. IDRM what exactly was said but yeah

THE RAHAF JUICY BITS

Then Mae showed me something. The start of the Killer VS Swap comic. I only knew the animation and NONE of this was in it. (Credit to rahaf) Seeing this changed my whole view on them, but it continues.

The part the hit me the most was when Blue was upset he couldn't save Killer despite the fact he nearly killed the guy which opened me to the world of toxic yaoi /silly. Jokes aside, it showed me how well and under looked these characters are together.

But why them? Well answer is: Every instance of them together while negative is only negative on Killer's behalf. Color had negative moments with Killer even if it got positive could end up being a nightingale syndrome scenario and how I see Blue and Killer strays far from this, NM is NM and Dream while he did feel positivity from Killer, Dreams motives just makes the ship feel icky to me but no hate! Outer is just a crack ship and I can't see it at all LOL (Dust and Horror I only ship for toxic yaoi I'll just out that here)

Blue on the other hand's motive is to help him, to change him to for the better even if he nearly died trying. He isn't degrading Killer, he isn't doing it for a questionably moral motive, he KNOWS if Killer tries he can be good. I believe if he learned what will be talked about below, he'd stop trying to """fix""" him but more so help him understand himself and his stages to be able to have a healthy relationship with himself.

Do I think Killer can be good? Not really, he doesn't concider himself a sans anymore so if he were to become fully himself again, I don't think that would do him good mentally. His soul is at a ever constant war with chara as shown here.

I think Killer is appreciates Blue trying to help and more upset by means and the fact it didn't work. In the comics, Blue tried the hardest but also the most back to back to help Killer which just annoyed him most likely but despite him causing the pain to himself, he hates it. I feel like this is further proven on how Blue is one of the people he mentions when talking to Nightmare and how you can still see Blue smile.

Also, it could be argued that Killer only really escalated things because Blue took him to see the stars, one thing Killer doesn't like nor feel comfortable around them. The one they're looking at doesn't help either.

Heres some more little things Rahaf has done with the two that fuel my love for them and their relationship!

For the name: Just something new + blue's name LOL also a wedding term so its even gayer

Now for the headcanons!

☆ Killer found a new appreciation for the stars because of Blue loving space

𖣠 Killer was forced to apologize for escalating fights (NM had made Killer stop similar in Killer VS the Star Sans' and didn't have him kill Dream)

☆ Killer got blue a new scarf

𖣠 Killer thinks Blue is the strongest Star Sans due to surviving him, having to get rid of Blue's magic to even win

☆ Paps and Chara don't like Killer so they keep it hidden, also to protect Blue from NM

𖣠 Killer keeps Blue's old one because hes weird and its like a trophy

☆ Killer thought being mean would get blue to leave and stop so kept being a jerk

𖣠 Killer didn't trust Blue around his cats bc trauma but when he caught wind Killer had cats absolutely spoiled them with treats and toys

☆ They have a lot of "Why do you care" talks

𖣠 Killer has said "You're my favorite star out of all the ones you've shown me"

☆ Blue 100% got giddy from that

𖣠 Killer is very touchy physically to make sure Blue is real + just a flirt

☆ Blue isn't use to it but makes him smile

𖣠 Blue confessed first on accident

☆ Said something like "I wish you could fully feel so you could love me too" and then was like "Oh stars I'm sorry!"

𖣠 Killer probably just laughed and said something like "I wouldn't mind that being my first feeling if we can get this solved."

☆ Killer made the first move

𖣠 Killer has bought him awful aprons saying stuff like "Spooning leads to forking"

☆ Killer likes testing Blue's alcohol tolerance

𖣠 Due to Killer trying to maintain his soul around Blue, hes actually more dangerous due to repression so if NM finds out about them, makes them not allowed to be alone for Blue's safety

☆ "If I ever get to stage three or four around you, please kill me." "You know I can't do that."

𖣠 Blue gets super happy everytime he sees killer's soul in stage 1 especially when more frequent because that means improvement

☆ Blue plans dates every weekend

𖣠 Oh yah why NM doesn't kill Blue is bc I HC them as friends since they both deal with idiots plus errormare LOL

☆ He also plans relaxation time after hard mission Killer has to do

𖣠 Had a "I'm... not a real person. I thought... haven't we... is this not how it works?" talk (I love SU referencing them)

☆ Since my blue is a mixture of all swap versions, when Blue has a bit of a ""yanberry"" moment Killers just like "Oh thats hot"

𖣠 If Blues universe were to reset Killer might have a Dust moment with Chara

☆ Blue rambles a lot to Killer

𖣠 He doesn't mind since it keeps him knowing Blue is real and distracts him from Chara ghosty

☆ If Killer were to "die", everyone would reassure Blue he'd just reset and come back SU style

𖣠 If he doesn't, Blue would talk to Reaper asking when Killer would be back and alive who'd say "It doesnt work that way, kid" if Killer chose to actually rest (I forgot what comic I saw that gave this idea)

☆ Blue still has PTSD from their fight so hates knives if held by Killer

𖣠 Blue goes to Killer when its storming

☆ Blue teaches Killer how to dance

𖣠 Killer's hallucination of Blue consists of a bloody eye powerless eye, tear eyed, and bloody in general

☆ Killer was Blue's first partner and kiss

𖣠 Same cannot be said for Killer but def is most healthy

☆ No one on really supports their relationship but thats because of Killer

𖣠 Blue will standup for Killer but no one really is scared of him, more so of killer whos behind him

☆ Blue has patched up Killer's jacket / sweater many times

𖣠 Just doomed yaoi by definition sorry

☆ Blue goes to Killer if dealing with Dream and Ink has gotten too much and vise versa with the three idiots (cross being the third) and NM

𖣠 Sit in comfortable silence together, occasionally checking in on one another

☆ Killer took Blue to see the stars despite his distaste since he felt bad for beating his ass after that

𖣠 "If you ever miss me, just look at the stars. Only a universe away" - Killer

☆ If they were to have a kid, Killer would be an amazing dad but think he's terrible

𖣠 I like to think that even after Blue and Killer's fight that even if Blue's magic is okay in his eye, his rib is still missing and unhealed and he's partially blind in that eye causing the magic to be a lighter blue

☆ This started from my Dustberry headcanons that sort of just trickled but I feel like he shows care about things Dust and Killer see, AKA Paps and Chara and often ask if they would like anything specific for dinner and try to converse with them even if he cant see or hear them

𖣠 Killer would probably think its super weird but probably get jealous if he lets Dust get that treatment (I needed to add my badsans poly + swap (and saejun + epic but thats a rant for another day) some where)

☆ I don't think they'd be the perfect relationship don't get me wrong, I feel like Killer would constantly try to break it off in some way for some normalcy but I feel like Blue is grounded enough to know this and understand this and knows if he just ups and walks he'd only be hurting Killer more

𖣠 Now this doesn't mean he is a doormat, he'll scold Killer but thats for after

☆ For angst purposes, I like the thought that Killer got hurt because of Blue trying to get Nightmare to ease the work load and what not and since he's NM's right hand man that didn't really fly by

𖣠 Despite Blue's positivity and how he views himself, because I HC him with HPD or histrionic personality disorder, he has a low view on himself away from others and I feel like Killer would try to help him during all those times as a way to pay Blue back for all the effort he has given to help Killer

☆ Since I HC Blue doesn't remember resets and the younger brother, I like to think that Killer introduced him fully to this talk, Stretch probably tried before but just thought it was nightmares

𖣠 I feel like Blue would try and make Killer sweets only to find out he doesn't really like em due to everything LOL

☆ I also HC Killer to cough DT a lot so Blue keeps a spare little handkerchief on him to wipe Killer's mouth

𖣠 I like to think Blue really looks up to Dream and Ink but they semi push him away as he's a mortal so Killer has those "Who needs em" talks and probably realizes he's semi codependent on them as he is to Nightmare but not in the same life depends on it way

☆ Also when theyre hiding their relationship I like to think that they'd run off during battles like the freaks they are

𖣠 Soley based on a RP with Mae but Blue calling Killer, Kiki and Killer calling Blue, Iris is my ride or die oh my stars

☆ Because Killer doesn't talk too much in the canon events of Something New, I feel as if the more Killer talks to Blue is another indicator to Blue about change and that makes me smile (Ignore how Killer talked a bit in their fight it just proves Killer fought him out of love /silly)

𖣠 I feel as if my Blue had a Blueberror moment, Killer and him would bond a lot due to similar feelings of not being good enough + both kinda chill in an antivoid space and yeah I probably have a ton more I can pull out of my ass but I am tired sooooooooo

Heres their playlist I update religiously:

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SANS AU TUMBLR SEXYMAN REMATCH [MASTERPOST]

(Updates every day)

Each poll has its own post. After Round 1 all matchups will be randomized. One round = 24 hours. In the masterpost above you’ll find all the polls

ROUND ONE:

Swap (UnderSwap by p0pcornPr1nce) vs Outer (OuterTale by 2mi127) WINNER: Swap

Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) vs Fresh!Ink by Comyet WINNER: Ink

Fell (UnderFell by Fella/Vic) vs BlueBerror by CrayonQueen WINNER: Fell

G!Sans (EchoTale by Borurou) vs Lust (UnderLust by NSFWshamecave) WINNER: Lust

FellSwap (FellSwap Gold by Blackgum) vs SwapFell by Nishimori38 WINNER: FellSwap

BirdTale Sans by Greyscales vs Science (ScienceTale by TalkingSoup) WINNER: Science

Seraphim Sans (The Thought by TratserEnoyreve) vs Insans (Alive by tatatale) WINNER: Seraphim Sans

Color (OtherTale by Super Youmna) vs Fatal!Error by Xedramon WINNER: Fatal!Error

Ganz (GZTale by NixenSiBrat) vs Dream (DreamTale by Jokublog) WINNER: Dream

Horror (HorrorTale by Sour-Apple-Studios) vs Nightmare (DreamTale by Jokublog) WINNER: Nightmare

Cross (XTale by Jael Peñaloza) vs Epic (EpicTale by yugogeer12) WINNER: Cross

Killer by Rahafwabas vs Murder Sans (DustTale by ask-dusttale) WINNER: Killer

Error by CrayonQueen vs Fresh by CrayonQueen WINNER: Error

Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen) vs Reaper (ReaperTale by Ren) WINNER: Geno

Wiki Sans by paintedhen vs Last Breath Sans by Zerjox WINNER: Wiki Sans

MafiaFell Sans (Sooner or Later You're Gonna be Mine by Melikas) vs DanceTale Sans by Teandstars WINNER: DanceTale Sans

ROUND 2:

All matchups are randomized.

Swap (UnderSwap by p0pcornPr1nce) vs Lust (UnderLust by NSFWshamecave) WINNER: Swap

Dream (DreamTale by Jokublog) vs Killer by Rahafwabas WINNER: Killer

FellSwap (FellSwap Gold by Blackgum) vs Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) WINNER: Ink

Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen) vs Fatal!Error by Xedramon WINNER: Geno

DanceTale Sans by Teandstars vs Nightmare (DreamTale by Jokublog) WINNER: Nightmare

Fell (UnderFell by Fella/Vic) vs Cross (XTale by Jael Peñaloza) WINNER: Cross

Error by CrayonQueen vs Science (ScienceTale by TalkingSoup) WINNER: Error

Wiki Sans by paintedhen vs Seraphim Sans (The Thought by TratserEnoyreve) WINNER: Seraphim

ROUND 3:

Swap (UnderSwap by p0pcornPr1nce) vs Killer by Rahafwabas WINNER: Killer

Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) vs Geno (AfterTale by CrayonQueen) WINNER: Ink

Nightmare (DreamTale by Jokublog) vs Cross (XTale by Jael Peñaloza) WINNER: Nightmare

Error by CrayonQueen vs Seraphim Sans (The Thought by TratserEnoyreve) WINNER: Error

SEMIFINAL:

Killer by Rahafwabas vs Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) WINNER: Ink

Nightmare (DreamTale by Jokublog) vs Error by CrayonQueen WINNER: Error

FINALE:

Ink (_____Tale by Comyet) vs Error by CrayonQueen WINNER: Error