#Jews are not the problem. Never was.
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I see people opposing palestine by saying that Jews in Isra*l have a right to exist. Yes. Of course they do have a right to exist. As if THATS the issue that this is about. The holy land is for everyone. Everyone has a right to exist there, regardless of faith, and that includes Palestinians.
Israel tho?? As a country that is destroying people’s houses while they are living in it, telling people they have an impossibly short amount of time to evacuate before they bomb the hell out of them so they can take all the land ???? That is not ‘right to exist’ that is manifest destiny my friends. fueled by a superiority complex.
Jews ALWAYS have a right to exist and they have always existed and lived in Palestine. You can’t want to rid a land of its inhabitants in cruel ways (like using white phosphorous, bulldozing homes) and then complain that people are mad that you’re there and be like ‘oh gee how could these people be so hateful toward Me??’ 💀💀 like do u have no shame
#and by you I mean the Isra*li govt and settler colonists#if it’s not clear#Jews are not the problem. Never was.#it’s not that difficult#my friend explained it to me in literally 3rd grade#💭.txt#Palestine genocide
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Big reminder that your country is not immune to bigotry. I've seen so many people, for example, pretend like antisemitism doesn't exist in the USA because we were part of the allied forces in WWII (of course, they conveniently don't remember that we rejected jewish refugees when WWII broke out and we only really joined because Pearl Harbor was bombed, but I digress).
If you think your country is immune from antisemitism, racism (including anti-Indigenous racism), class issues, ableism, whatever else it may be, look deeper because you will find it.
#politics#antisemitism#antisemitism tw#i think if pearl harbor wasn't bombed we would have potentially never declared war#like yes it was better for us to have joined but realistically it wasn't to 'save the jews' like many USamericans think#we did NOT in fact 'save the jews' and we still have huge antisemitism problems ALONG WITH so /so/ much other shit#i can't understate that america isn't so far removed from the world that we just magically don't have problems#ANYway. tangent aside. it just.... annoys me whenever i see usamericans doing this#not because i think they're always malicious but it's a reminder that people aren't truly taught accurate us history#look if american history was taught to you in such a way you only felt warm fuzzy feelings you were FAILED...#...you were *failed* by an education system that was more interested in american exceptionalism than actual factual history#and i don't think america is the only culprit in national exceptionalism but i have the most experience as a usamerican#quick amendment that many jewish refugees were fleeing in the very beginning before war broke out *officially*#but we still rejected them sanctuary from nazi germany as a country (AND ofc america wasn't the only country to have done this!)
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Genuine question: if the phrase “never again” referred to genocide on the scale of the Holocaust, why WOULDN’T you apply it to everyone? How does restricting its application to the Jewish people not imply a willingness to allow other groups to be targeted for extermination?
That's not what the phrase means. The phrase doesn't mean "never again will we let a genocide happen", it means "never again will we (Jews) let ourselves be slaughtered". Goyische leftists decided it means the former because they're jealous that we "get to have" the Holocaust, which to them isn't a generational trauma but rather the most important sport in the oppression olympics, and they feel the need to A. center themselves in it and B. compare everything else to it for shock value. "Never again means never again for anyone" is appropriating and generalising Jewish culture and trauma, which the goyische left has done time and time again because it makes them feel special. Fucking stop.
#goyim are just jealous that we get to have THINGS#they simply have to make everything about themselves because how come the jews get to have this and we don't!!!#really cultural appropriation is a hige problem among the left but as long as it's done in a “progressive” way “as solidarity” it's fine#except they don't even bother pretending to do that with us#they aren't showing solidarity by using our fucking phrase about the holocaust (never mind AGAINST US)#“we took your phrase and now it's for everybody because you have to share :)”#like idk man. never again is pretty much the philosophy behind the creation of a jewish state.#and now people are using it against said jewish state.#a bit silly and i don't know... maybe a tiny bit holocaust inversion-y#never again#leftist antisemitism#antisemitism#jumblr#hila answers asks
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i don't feel comfortable saying this on my own blog bc it makes me sound like a fucking idiot but people explaining why they're calling israel "colonialist" has made me finally realize why people talk about colonialism like it's bad in and of itself, like i mostly heard people talk about "colonialism" like it meant "migrating while privileged" but no the ethnic cleansing of the existing inhabitants is actually a crucial part, huh
I mean the crucial part of colonialism from a leftist perspective is the resource extraction to fuel capitalism, and the creation of captive markets. British colonialism in India for instance was never aimed at wiping out the Indians; they hoped to make money extracting value from them! And, importantly, it was the extraction of value for enriching private interests—colonialism is frequently very expensive for the colonizing state with little direct return. Sometimes colonialism involves genocide, but it’s not a definitional feature.
I think Israel is a bad example of colonialism in this sense. The British abandoned Mandatory Palestine as not worth the headache; it was never a major military or economic outpost for them. Zionism was overwhelmingly a non-state enterprise, and AFAICT only got as popular as it did bc Jews felt like they didn’t have anywhere else to go. The US didn’t really become a major ally of Israel until the 60s, and certainly wasn’t instrumental in its establishment. Israel may now be politically useful to the US, but I think it’s an awkward fit to call it a “colony.”
Now, Israel is a colony in the broader, older sense of “a place people have moved to from somewhere else,” and you could make a stronger argument it is colonizing (in the more narrow sense) the occupied territories. But not every bad thing is isomorphic to every other bad thing, and I think it’s important both to keep terminology straight and to be able to call out atrocities even when there’s not a preexisting ideological framework of Badness that easily applies. Like it’s just straight up bad to kill massive numbers of civilians; you don’t need an elaborate explanation of why!
#jews moving to Palestine was never the problem#borders are fake and ppl should be able to live where they want
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Listening to westerners is becoming increasingly like listening to vatniks and it's frightening and depressing
#I remember when they laughed at ruscists for falling for the most basic absurd propaganda#but how is what they're saying now any different?#find the difference between “they bombed donbas for 8 years” and “75 year old occupation” I dare you#or putin standing in front of a map and pretending there's no ukraine when it's right in front of his eyes#and hamasniks pulling up maps depicting the 12 tribes of israel and going “see!!! no israel!!!”#i swear you all sound and behave just like braindead pro putinists and I never want to hear a word from you ever again#in your idiocy you empower putin#you empower the islamic regime in iran#you empower china and north korea#you are all pawns in the game of these terrorist regimes and people with imperial ambitions and I am so done with you#i have family in Odesa Ukraine#i have relatives in Israel#i grew up in russia and know this regime intimately because I GREW UP HERE#it's infuriating watching you privileged dumbasses empower terrorists#oh and don't even bring up the fucking UN the UN is a fucking useless corrupt organization I've been done with the UN for years#and I've especially been done with the UN ever since they didn’t expel Russia and Russia was allowed to keep vetoing any resolutions#UN is more interested railing against a tiny country in the middle east than an empire the size of Africa that's trying to conquer Ukraine#when was the last the icj ruled against Russia btw?!#they have all the time for Israel but not Russia?! are you fucking kidding me?!?#how does Israel have more resolutions against it than the world combined which includes RUSSIA#Russia has always been an expansionist empire and it expanded in 2008 and 2014 and now in 2022#but no the jews are your main fucking problem#i am disgusted#rant over#antisemitism#fuck russia#fuck the un#fuck the icj#russian war crimes
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saw a post saying “the only reason Israel exists is because of western oil interests” - and my thoughts here aren’t specific to that one post but a similar Sentiment I feel like I’ve seen a bunch… it feels… off to me when I see ppl on the left express this notion that Israel is wrong and evil BUT NOT Jewish!!! They don’t want to be antisemitic and they know that Israel does not represent all Jews, and they also want to call out other factors that ARE very significant factors in the past & present of Israel’s militarized existence, but they go so hard in that direction that like… it gives me the Bad Vibes in a different way. Different example that gave me a similar feeling - couple weeks back I remember seeing several friends shared an insta post that was all about Christian Zionism with stats and graphs showing the numbers of Christian zionists, how way more zionists are Christians than Jews, like a 9:1 ratio, and it also said something like “ZIONISM IS ANTISEMITISM”. Which - I wanna be clear, I do think raising awareness of that info is helpful, and I do personally feel that Zionism is harmful to everyone including Jews (but I wouldn’t call it ‘antisemitic’ bc I feel that’s deliberately pushing the limits of words in a way that less clear and more inflammatory than it should be).
But anyway both of these examples feel that common thread to me of like - calling out REAL factors that are at play in Israel’s creation, continued existence, relationship with US (and other) imperialism, but also… like… trying so hard to say “it’s not about Jews, it’s not about Jews at alllllllll!” When like. IT IS A LITTLE ABOUT JEWS, PAL? and it’s okay to acknowledge that?? And honestly I think trying that hard to ignore or talk around the notion of Israel as a Jewish homeland EVEN IF YOU DO NOT PERSONALLY AGREE WITH THAT NOTION OR THE WAY ZIONISM HAS USED VIOLENCE AND COLONIALISM TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, just makes it harder to contend w the reality of the situation. let alone communicate w people who aren’t already on the same exact page about this issue as you are. Like this attempt to try to critique Israel while so desperately talking around the Jewish part is well-meaning, I know, and probably in part a practical defense/response against those who continue to lob accusations of antisemitism against any critique of Israel, but at some point you sound ridiculous
#literally you have to contend with the fact that there are many people#who believe in Zionism bc either they are Jewish and see it as a Just Cause for their homeland#or who aren’t Jewish but support it for that same reason and think it’s supporting Jews#imperialism is ALSO a big factor#as is Christian Zionism#but you will never understand this issue as well as how to talk abo it it without being antisemitic#if you refuse to engage with the nuanced and often troubling parts of it!!!#like tbh imperialism and Christian Zionism are EASIER to talk about#bc (from a left perspective at least) those are Acceptable Targets/punching up#I feel like this is also connected to the times when ppl say Zionist but u feel like they mean Jew lol#bc if they refuse to engage with actually thinking about when they mean which word…#but they only think ‘Jews aren’t the problem zionists are the problem’…#and won’t dig into the thorny ways Zionism and the Jewish community are entangled#then like. it’s no wonder ppl use it in a way that feels like a stand in#wow this got away from me#politics#jewblogging#d
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jewish shower thoughts
A Reddit comment I can't stop thinking about: "If you think whiteness is bad, Jews are white to you. If you think whiteness is good, Jews aren't white to you."
#Assorted context:#the belief that Israel is white people colonizing and stealing the land of indigenous people of color#“Jewish supremacy”#“Israel supremacy”#“nobody can tell you're Jewish unless you say something therefore antisemitism is not a problem and it's [only] our hijabis who are at risk#if you're confused about the first example:#Jews are an ethnicity and are the indigenous people of the region under the UN's definition of indigineity#nobody is stealing the Gaza Strip#Israel pulled out of it in 2005 and made all Israeli citizens move too#nobody stole land from Palestinians to create Israel#if a two-state solution is stealing land from Palestinians then it should be even worse that Britain gave 3/4 of the land up to Jordan#literally the entire state of Jordan was originally part of the 'Mandate for Palestine'#I've never even heard people mention that; I found it out by accident while digging into the history here
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While growing up in Pittsburgh in the 50s, my grandmother would walk to school with her two sisters. When they passed the Catholic school that stood between their Jewish neighborhood and the public elementary school, the Catholic kids would shout slurs and throw rocks at them. Every. Single. Day.
I remember her telling me this, and shrugging like it was just a fact of life. Not a big deal. What you expect when you’re a Jew.
I don’t want my kids to grow up thinking antisemitism is expected.
#there’s no real point to this post#i just think about that sometimes#america may have been a haven for jews but it was never free of antisemitism#antisemitism#not just a far off problem!!
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ok ive had enough of queering judaism. can we start judaizing queerness now. or something
#like. it feels like so much of this queering judaism shtus just layers an american/secular queer identity over judaism#which i guess is fine for certain communities. but it's only going to push you away from orthodoxy#and if as queer jews we already feel like our queerness makes us into secularized outsiders in our own communities#how does this help? is trying to get our communities to embrace an essentially secular american iteration of queer identity supposed to mak#us feel LESS like outsiders? it's not quite doing it for me#we need a queerness that comes from within judaism that is essentially jewish#ive seen a couple of articles recently from ppl talking abt how word/concept of butch doesnt exist in their language & culture#but they use it anyway#& like. i love being butch. it's important to me ill never give it up#& i am american too. but my whole identity as a butch he/him lesbian is exclusively secular american it came from the outsifr#which is definitely due in large part to the fact that my Gender Problems were really tied up w orthodox jewish gender roles#so naturally to get out of that i'd pull on something not jewish. but i wish there was another option? idk if that's possible#or how it would look#maybe that's why im obsessed w the idea of a butch w long curly payos.... 😦#i forgot where i was going w this but yeah it's frustrating#this is a large part of why im wary of starting a queer Jewish club on campus bc the people who would wanna start it w mr#well no offense but they are insufferable about this#(incidentally they're also insufferable about chanukah. no surprises there)#op#jew blogging#others have Actually written abt all this tho
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trying to decipher if the overwhelming dread & Thoughts are cause of the state of the world or cause i need a shower.
vent post in the tags. idk. do whatever 👍
#sorry bros im about to ventpost in these mf tags 👍#im so fucking tired man. im already suicidal to begin with but the Everything happening is making it Worse. Yippe Yahoo Hooray.#therapy in a week though so ive got that at least.#this is the worst time of year for shit to go south.but Uh Oh saying that makes me feel like a selfish fuckass because other people -#- have it worse. like. god fucking damn. i get Extra suicidal around september -> march range sure. but other people are literally suffering#like as we fucking speak. and ive done fuckall to help cause i dont know HOW to help. but thats not a fucking excuse#im just being comfortable in my lazy ass depression spiral cause im a selfish fucking prick. “i cant spare the energy to vett things”#other people are fucking dying and im over here like “noo im too tiwed :( i cant do anyfing so im not gona do anyfing cuz im wazy and tiwed”#what the fuck is wrong with me lmao. knowing me im not gona change shit anyway despite fucking complaining about it cause im just. fucking#Like That.#idk. i was reblogging some of those “hold in there dont kill yourselves” posts cause like. yk. suicide bad or fucking whatever. but someone#on this site said something along the lines of “ok but how many people reblogging/posting these told jews to kill themselves” and like.#i dont know. i dont fucking know dude. so i guess im not reblogging Those anymore.#theres bigger issues out there and here i am focusing on some queer people who might kill themselves. idk. i should just join them yk#cause i never fucking focus on the bigger shit cause “i dont know how” and “i dont want to make things worse so i just wont do anything” so#im not doing fuckall other than just being part of the fucking problem here.#i should probably just delete social media for a while and see from there.#or just fucking drink about it thats the other option. its worked for me before (lie) so i may as well do it again am i right#im sorry i never like. boost gofundmes or fundraisers and shit i just.#i dont have a fucking excuse. im just a lazy fucking bastard in my own stupid fucking comfort circle.#“oh no seeing that people are dying makes me uncomforyable :(” ok well people are fucking dying you self absorbed douchebag. why cant you#get off your stupid fucking ass and do something. get a job so you can fucking help people or *something#its not like you have to pay rent and shit.#<- all about myself. cause yk. self centered douchbag. hooray.#i dont pay rent and i dont have to pay for my own food. i still live with my parents. im fucking useless to society so i may as well get a#job and send the money i dont fucking need to somrone who DOES need it. but here i am.#in.my stupid fucking bed til noon cause “the world is scary and jobs are hard :(”#its fucking retail. retail isnt as fucking hard as like. construction and shit but here i am anyway “unable” to do shit.#i fucking could if i just fucking ballsed up and put up with shit. but no. here i fucking am going “nooo i should just kill myself instead”#vent post
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Friendly reminder that being queer/LGBT ally/jewish/pro-semitism isn't, can't and shouldn't be used to justify and support ethnic cleansing, colonization and genocide. If you do think so then I don't want you to talk to me ever again 👉🚪
#from the river to the sea palestine will be free#free palestine#“BUT IF YOU LIVED THERE THEY'D KILL YOU” bitch people from my own country would rather see me dead for existing too#just because minorities are oppressed by their governments doesn't mean the citizens deserve to die#they're just weaponizing people sexualities and you are buying into their “noble” reasoning#“it is a war not a genocide” isn't it weird that the only side that is being censored for speaking about what's happening to them#are the Palestinians?#in pro palestine protests people don't yell death to Israel they yell they want freedom and ceasefire#if you think “from the river to the sea palestine will be free” is somehow the same as a (death) threat the problem is on you#and yes you can question Israel without being antisemitic. People can be jew and/or queer and be against them#this dehumanization shouldn't be answered with indifference or “they deserved it lol” BIG FUCK YOU#not sorry if this is how you find out what side I'm with. If talking about this makes you uncomfortable or offended feel free to unfollow m#tener que decir algo que debería ser universal y de sentido común me toca mucho los huevos#when I say I prefer to be drama free I mean about fandom discourse. Never about war crimes and violation of human rights#“if they don't want to get bombed just leave” THAT'S NOT THE SOLUTION THEY DESERVE TO LIVE IN THEIR LAND WITHOUT GETTING ATTACKED FOR IT#god dammit#I'll be back to being silly later but first I wanted to get this out of my chest#🍉
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thinking more,,
#i cant help but feel horribly heartbroken every time i hear whats happening in gaza as well as so many other places#it feels like-- like none of this had to happen#i guess ive never even been in the same universe as someone who even sees one death as a solution#let alone thousands#as a jew especially it feels horrible#like this happened to us. and we're just doing it to someone else??? why??????#because if you walk into someones home kindly they will take you in. walk in with a gun and theres gonna be tension#i dont understand at all#and like maybe im naive. maybe im just young and my brain hasnt developed yet#and when im an adult ill understand how people could ever think war solves any problem#but. i just think its literally never fixed anything#sometimes people suck. should NOT kill them over it#and thats not even true in this situation!!! israel fucking sucks and theyre the ones commiting a genocide here!!!!!!!#if you walked in peacefully none of this wouldve happened#pass over is soon. and we'll say prayers and eat matza and have lots of food#and those across the globe will do the same. and yet they are murdering people#and we'll be in our safe warm houses and they will be dying#shouldnt there be some way to help them all???? america is one of the richest countries in the world and we're actively hurting them..#i genuinely cant fathom how people could ever think like that#i dont think evil exists but then i look at the world and i realize weve gotten pretty damn close#and yet i still have to wake up tomorrow#and i still have my own life to live#and the world doesnt stop for me to mourn strangers#i hate all of it. why cant we just be nice to people#anyways. ive just been trying mostly to avoid this topic esp online#this is my little safety zone and ive never really been one for politics; esp things that i dont understand#yknow i dont wanna spread misinfo; and at the same time i dont have the energy or knowledge to fact check#plus the whole emotional toll in a place that i just wanna unwind in#idk. i think im starting to feel like i cant just ignore all these posts anymore. im kinda starting to feel like i wanna scream#all of this really fucking sucks. this shouldnt be happening
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honestly, the most obnoxious response to people finding out I'm vegetarian and kosher-style (or just in response to like, the general principle of kosher or whatever) is the "oh that's so hard I can't imagine not eating normal foods." like bruh. normal foods are relative. There's not One True Food Lifestyle from which all others deviate - there are cultures where it's normal to consume insects and there are cultures where it's not, there are people for whom dairy is a nonstarter and others where it's needed to start a proper meals, there are places alcohol isn't okay and there are places it's more than alright.
"But don't you miss bacon?"
"You've never had bacon? OMG that's so sad."
No, I haven't, and I don't miss it. Do you miss fermented shark? Bugs? Larval cheese? Century eggs? Marmite? Fish eyeballs? Blood pudding? Rocky mountain oysters? The infinity of jello stuff from the 1950s? Maybe there's something I've listed that's a normative part of your diet, but it's unlikely that all of them are. All of these are edible, but what is culturally acceptable and gastronomically desired vary from decade to decade and place to place.
like, no, being vegan/vegetarian/plant-based/whatever is DEFINITELY not for everyone. but there's not some universal neutral diet that the rest of us are veering from.
#the other day one of my coworkers asked me A LOT of jew questions#which is something I'm used to whatever#but he got caught on kosher and how he “could never do that”#dude it's literally not for everybody#but literally no food lifestyle is#kosher#jumblr#vegetarian problems
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not me seeing the same discourse the land back movement got being repeated for Palestine. 🤨 y'all aren't even trying to think critically.
#specifically i was seeing ppl claim from the river to the sea Palestine will be free as antisemitic#now can ppl be antisemitic under the guise of supporting Palestine? yes i have seen this blatantly#but to act like this slogan is somehow equating the destruction of the Israeli state ( i.e.) govt. with all jewish ppl is disingenuous#I've said it once I'll say it again i do not trust anyone who conflates Israel with all Jewish people#you cannot view israel as 'bad jews'. that black white morality is blatantly antisemitic#it is an unjust state. in the same way many other states are. including the U.S.#in the same way land back never was about kicking out all non indigenous ppl#from the river to the sea palestine will be free is not about the removal of jewish ppl#is the about the removal of an unjust state#problems that happen when non anarchists try to think lol#y'all see yourselves as part of the/a state so much you conflate the two#free palestine#no joke when i saw that post some of the reblogs had tagged israeli palestinian conflict. n had ppl admotting they coulfnt ever say#free palestine cause some ppl have been anti semetic with it 🤨🤨🤨 so you agree grouping large amounts of ppl together for the crimes of a#few is bad??? inchresting you sre doing that same thing
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Internet Archive just sent me an email reminding me they have tons of free audiobooks and uh I figured I should pass the message along.
The Internet Archive has tons of free audiobooks
Universal Access to All Knowledge for the win!
#I freaking love these guys#God's work honestly#Most noble causes are like 1 gettin people water 2 gettin people food 3 gettin people clothes and shelter 4 gettin people healthcare#5 gettin people time off work and 6 gettin people knowledge#So like 6th most moral thing a person could possibly do#Internet Archive and Wikipedia people are True Heroes fr#🐸#Although I guess as a Christian gettin people Salvation is pretty important too#But like... The truth of Christianity is highly debatable how important is it really to convince people of your own religion?#Besides who's right on the what happens to ppl who've never heard the gospel and ppl who've heard incomplete or erroneous versions#And how Salvation worked for Jews before Jesus like Abraham and all that?#There's so much disagreement and everyone's answer has problems!#Surely a person who looked at all the arguments and reasoned logically that Christianity is not true won't go to Hell?#Ah well one theological/philosophical topic at a time I'm still figuring out the deal with the garden of Eden & the fossil record#If humanity & the Universe wasn't actually originally perfect before a human-triggered fall from perfection that cursed the Universe#Then that's a big problem#Well I'm off topic#Does anybody even read this far into the tags?#Human posting
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Liberals will deadass be like "ah yes the three great evils: the British Empire, America, and Jews" and then wonder why Jews don't feel safe lol
#solitaretalk#this isn't an exaggeration#hell it's not even paraphrasing#hmmm I think about this a lot#when I was studying early on my rabbi explained why and how conservatism got so popular in Israel#esp when Jewish ppl are statistically more likely to be liberal#and he explained it well but honestly I'm embarrassed I didn't get it right away#most of the organizations spending money to help Jews are right wing evangelical ones#and yes their reasons are insane but does that matter to you when you grandma needs to flee her home?#when you have a lot of groups trying to kill you and one says 'what if we give you all the guns so you're not the ones getting murdered'#you can see why that would be tempting#and if you can't you've simply never been in enough danger to get it#us vs them is very easy when you've been the them for thousands of years worth of discrimination and genocide#idk man it's long and complicated but I'm so tired#I don't think the American left has ever had my interests in mind#and as they get increasingly violent towards Jews alongside increased violence from fascists#I feel like at that point you should stop wondering how it got here#and start realizing ur part of the problem
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