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potential spoilers; the flash
Maturing is realising that Eddie Thawne was nothing more than the pretty boy detective who fell in love with his partner's daughter. Maturing is realising that Linda Park was being gaslit into thinking her boyfriend was in love with someone just to keep her away from him. Maturing is realising Barry Allen was just trying to get over an unrequited love and deserved to be happy with someone that could actually admit they loved him. Maturing is realising that Iris West is a bit manipulative and should not have been Barry Allen's endgame.
#the flash#flash#barry allen#iris west#eddie thawne#linda park#iris west hater#eddie thawne apologist#rewatching the flash and i hate eddie a lot less than i used to#and hating iris a lot more#and kind of liking linda this time#barry deserves better#props to joe for seeing that barry was a catch though#he knew barry was a good man for any woman he dated
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thinking abt how rudy only had wally cause a cult told him that his kid would be powerful.
he never cared about his son or his wife- his family was just another one of his schemes.
the panels before the scene that he tells wally that is literally him complaining that the kid he tried to mold and control wouldn't obey him as he wanted him to, and then siccing a group of people on him to beat his ass and abduct him.
a lot of fanon things interpret rudy as this stupid bumbling alchoholic who beats his wife and his kid when he's drunk, but he's FAR from that. he's cruel and cold to pursue his own goals and has never once loved the family he wants to control.
#dc#wally west#rudy west#tbh im shitting on rudy here a lot (which he deserves)#but honestly mary isnt that much better. just worse in different ways#anyway tune in next time where i explain why iris west was the first person to unconditionally love wally
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My heart breaks for Eddie so much, you can see how much he’s trying to be okay, to do the right thing, how he doesn’t want to hurt anyone but he’s also so confused and hurt and alone and scared and in pain and the negative speed force is twisting his love into something negative and evil
This man just woke up from a fake life and basically only found out he died and his life isn’t his own and everyone and everything is coming at him at 200x speed and he’s just desperately trying to hold on
I need him to be okay, he doesn’t deserve all of this pain. He doesn’t deserve to be used and abused by the negative speed force. He deserves to be safe and happy 🥲
Team Flash better save him, they better not give up on him, please show him through actions that he’s not a forgotten nobody, please remind him of all the good that he is and have done and how much he is loved
I don’t want to see Eddie remain evil or dead in the end, he has earned the right to live and make a happy and good life of his own
Barry or Iris needs to play him that video he made for Iris’ birthday, there is goodness in him that can still be reached, please don’t give up on him
This show better not keep him a villain, ruin the core of his character, and fall into that silly banal trope of “the other guy is the bad person” — they did so good originally by not having him be that trope, please don’t fuck it up
#my sweet bby deserves so much better#please save him#eddie thawne#barry allen#iris west#the flash#the flash spoilers#the flash season 9
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That Rare Arctic Thunderstorm: Ch17 (on AO3)
FULL FIC LINK HERE
It took all of Eddie’s self-control not to touch his left jacket pocket as he and Iris stepped onto the walkway at the waterfront park. His hand kept twitching towards it, trying to check that the small square box was still where he’d put it. Iris hugged his right arm, and a light breeze wafted her jasmine perfume up to his nose. Despite that, he felt like throwing up. That, or he was about to have a heart attack. He’d faced down dangerous criminals, gang members, and even a few metahumans, but all of that paled in comparison to the terror that seized him tonight. “That restaurant was so worth the week and a half it took to get a new reservation,” Iris was saying. “Barry and Len needed us last time, but…” “It was an emergency.” Eddie smiled down at her again. “It’s okay.” “Still, I haven’t been home enough lately.” Iris tucked a lock of hair behind her ear. “I’m trying to persuade Eric to take Linda off the sports beat so she and I can share features work more.” “I know what it’s like, having a demanding boss.” Eddie squeezed her hand, pulling her closer to the riverside, to a spot where the lights from Keystone twinkled the brightest across the water. “With Joe away until Saturday, Captain Singh’s been harder on me than usual.” “So, Dad didn’t tell you why he took a few personal days off either.” Iris pursed her lips. “He’s been struggling with something he won’t talk about, so I hope this trip helps. Even though he wouldn’t tell me where he went.” “He’s a tough guy. He’ll be fine.” Truth be told, Eddie was glad that Joe had gone out of town. (And that he’d taken Len’s advice not to tell his girlfriend’s father what he was planning.) He was anxious enough as it was without dreading walking into the station in the morning. He took a deep breath, steeling himself when they got to the edge of the railing. There were a few other people walking in the park, but they were far enough away for the illusion of privacy. He’d been wanting to do this for several months, and now—now he couldn’t afford to get cold feet. “I don’t want to talk about Joe—or Barry and Len—anymore,” he said softly, stopping by one of the streetlamps. “I want tonight to be about you. About us.”
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#iris west#eddie thawne#side character love#they deserved better dammit#coldflash fanfiction#wip update#fanfiction update#coldflash#leonard snart#barry allen#captain cold#the flash#cw the flash#the author regrets nothing
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On a more positive note, this is gonna be Westallen and Kamisco fans when the series ends, and all the racists who needlessly hate on our girls have to sit with the fact that neither guy was ever gonna leave the actual love of his life for any version of Caitlin or a long gone ex:
#by gosh at least this show got one thing right in the end#THAT SAID what happened to Caitlin was bullshit and she deserved better than that#The Flash#Westallen#Kamisco#Barry Allen#Cisco Ramon#Iris West#Kamilla Hwang
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@solembum22
favorite character from any media BUT it has to be a woman. in the tags now go (pls talk to me about your favorite fictional women pls pls pls pls)
#martha jones#I could write a whole essay on why her season was one big giant microaggression#but that is a task for another day#Belle#Tiana#my pansexual Disney princesses#love them both#kagome higurashi#usagi tsukino#lavender brown#WHO DID NOTHING WRONG#cho chang#WHO DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER#luna lovegood#WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN HARRY’S ENDGAME LOVE INTEREST#iris west#felicity smoak#keyleth
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I first got a bit annoyed about it in the show and this is…. Extremely nitpicky. But I feel like Barry and Iris would either both change their name to West-Allen because they’re dorks and in love, or they would both keep their last name as is for professional/career reasons. Particularly Iris who’s a journalist and whose name is you know… very much attached to her work.
The kids though, would all be West-Allen. Like hahah look… we made these together. I think they would be delighted if Bart’s last name was ‘West-Allen.’
#barry allen#iris west#idk maybe I’m just weird about last names#but it’s canon in my heart only unfortunately#It’s a also motivated in part by the ‘Iris West deserves better’ agenda#Also Barry would smile every time he has to write ‘Barry West-Allen’ anywhere#I don’t remember Barry changing his last name to West-Allen in the comics but If I’m wrong please let me know#I would be very happy to be wrong in this case
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Please can the male character of a fantasy show/shonen anime not end with a female character for once? Stop with the heteronormativity dear God.
Give the main male character more female friends instead of giving him female love interests. Male characters deserve to have female friends. They don't have to be always romantically involved! I'm tired of people always wanting to ship a girl and a boy without any other option. They could be just friends! (and this feels very close to me because I had a best male friend in high school and people ALWAYS saw us as lovers and it WASN'T true at all! It was so irritating I swear. "You look good together" "You are a good couple" "Are you two together?" Why can't you leave us alone??? He was just my friend). Because YES, a girl and a boy can be friends without feeling romantic love for each other.
Annabeth could have been Percy Jackson's first female friend and she could have been the first girl who cared about him, just like a "female version of Grover" and just a friend- but no, they had to end up together because God forbid a main male character not being the boyfriend of a girl (and the same happens with Hiccstrid, Jlaire and Anidala, they could also just have been friends)
Naruto and Hinata could have been besties instead of lovers but no- they had to make Hinata a girl whose life was only centered in "How do I make Naruto-kun love me?" (and the same happened to Iris West. She could have been more important to the plot and Barry's best female friend- but instead she was just his love interests and her development was null. And the same happened with Allura. At first she was a good character, but then she was only there to be Lance love interest, what he should have been overcome. And btw Allura's romantic love towards Lance felt very rushed. As well as Hinny was so bad developed in the movies and Ginny's development didn't exist).
Seriously people stop with these things. Stop reducing a female character to a love interest. Don't make the main male character end up with a female character because that "it's better for the plot" "it's better for the world" "people won't accept the male character dating another male character" "people won't accept the male character not dating anyone". Not everything has to be a straight couple. Actually, not everything has to be a couple! All relationships in the book/show/movie/anime could be platonic and it wouldn't be a big deal! (Although personally I like romance, but aroace people also exist and they deserve to be represented in media).
#anti hiccstrid#anti percabeth#anti jlaire#anti allurance#anti anidala#anti hinny#anti westallen#anti naruhina#tuffcup#pernico#jercy#hammerhunter#klance#drarry#ronarry#harmione#snowbarry#barrisco#coldflash#olivarry#sasunaru#shikanaru#gaanaru#sakuhina
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Red Hood and The Outlaws rewrite
The original post of this didn't show up in the tags but that turned out to be lucky for me as two major changes happened in mine @insomniac-jay @mayameanderings @refrigeratedboombursts @theautisticcentre @moonage-gaydream and Amrit's(sadly no longer on tumblr but still on discord)Rhato fixit we made because we love Jason and he deserves better!!Cw for super long and heavy post
It starts in 2010 and ends in 2020,runs for 120 issues and happens in-universe over 3 years
The lineup is in order of joining:Jason Todd(Red Hood and briefly a Star Sapphire),Eddie Bloomberg(Red Devil),Rose Wilson(Ravager and later Willow),Summer Kent(Ignite and briefly a Black Lantern),Thaddeus Thawne(Inertia),Pepper Jackson(Star Sapphire),Raveena 'Raven' Rothra(Blackbird),Duke Thomas(Robin),Kahali Roy(Blood Maker),Imani Javiera(Pantheress),Kyle Rayner(Green Lantern and later White Lantern),Artemis Grace(Artemis of Bana-Mighdall),Venus Parks(Star Sapphire),Mathew Kent(Superguy and briefly a Green Lanterm),Daisy Hilliard and Lilith Morningstar(Paradisia and Hex),Jennifer Williams(Batika)and Azriel Morningstar(Ghoul)
Jason,Eddie and Rose are the 'Original Outlaws Trinity' and them and Summer are the 'Dark Core Four'.Jason is the founder and leader and Summer his right hand man who takes over when he can't
Almost all of them are trans and audhd with Mathew as the token cis and Pepper as the token allistic.Jason is monoracial afro-dominican,Rose and Artemis are brownskin and browneyed,Summer is a half white afro-dominicana/afro-mejicana,Thaddeus is black/white mixed because Candice Patton is the only Iris West,Kahali and Raven are indian(tamil and sindi-bengali respectively),Imani is afro-puerto rican and Venus,Daisy,Jennifer and Lilith and Azriel are black.Jason,Summer,Pepper,Imani and Lilith are also fat and Jaysumm is tank4tank
Sometimes a found family can be 18 crazy ass vigilantes some of who weren't even vigilantes at first
The series is very goofy and silly often and in it's fundamental spirit but equally dark and layered in the same sense and is heavy on gags,jokes,violence and social talk.Putting the radicalism and intersectionalism back in comics
The canon couples are Jason/Summer,Eddie/Lilith,Rose/Pepper,Thad/Azriel,Duke/Luna Vásquez,Kahali/Tim Drake,Imani/Vicia López,Kyle/Venus,Artemis/Daisy and Mathew/Jennifer and Raven is aroace.The other adult Outlaws view eachother with very strong platonic love that can be taken as polyamorous love except Summer and Imani who are sisterly and Jason and Raven who are queerplatonic partners and the Kid Outlaws are seen as younger siblings by them with Thad also being considered their adoptive son-By Summer especially and he straight up views him as his mom
Jason is goth punk,Eddie is a metalhead,Rose is goth butch,Summer is pastel punk,Thad is skapunk,Pepper is y2k,Raven is pastel goth,Duke is a solarpunk fashionista,Kahali is whimsigoth,Imani is Aliyahcore,Kyle is losercore-i mean distinct,Artemis is a jock,Venus is ghetto fabulous,Mathew is weirdcore,Daisy is a softgirl,Lilith is scenemo,Jennifer is a prep and Azriel is kidcore
Summer is the Team Mom and Jason is the Team Dad and they're nicknamed 'Supermom and Dadhood' as a teasing joke that they only embrace post getting together(And yet somehow this dosen't stop Jason from saying Summer is a milf with complete honesty and zero hesitation).Raven is the boba aunt
Their base is called The Fortress-named by Summer obviously-and it's an old abandoned huge residence that they started living in after exorsicing it due to investigation leading them there and the moving in decision was made because the beings in it agreed to bless it with eternal running water and electricity as a thank you for helping them move onto the afterlife at last.Everyone has their own room with their own tricked out aesthetic but it's common for them to share their beds and Imani refuses to actually sleep alone,not that any of them mind after a while despite her unconventional sleeping habits
Small note:Kyle is in the same age group as Jason but because i feel he's even more interesting if he starts out being a power ring holder as a teenager and it adds extra tragedy and opportunities to his plots.And they don't actually meet until adulthood-Their mutual connection is Kyle and Summer having been a thing for a short time when they were both teens and Jason being Summer's childhood best friend since they were 11.This notion also applies to Artemis,she gets introduced as a teen hero too instead of that oversexualization bs and keeps her history but just adjusted so she's still Artemis Grace!!
As stated,Jason,Eddie and Rose were the original trio and Jason got them to become Outlaws pretty easily thanks to Eddie having been sidekick besties with him and Summer too and Rose is always up for moral grayness(and is coincedentally another one of Summer's exes-His first ever girlfriend in fact!)and Summer joined post Ember/Red Hood thanks to him and Jason reuniting in Utrh and the series being about them reconnecting as he unintentionally influenced him to become more sardonic and brutal like they were as a kid so the Metropolis media framed them as 'evil all along' and that hurt them so much combined with smear campaign Lex did against them as a kid he worked so hard to disprove for so long that they finally ran away from home and joined The Outlaws like Jason wanted him to so they'd be a team again.He gifted him a black domino mask as 'giving him a piece of himself' to finish off the new costume Summer made.After a decent while of just The Dark Four Core,Pepper came along as the fifth member because of her crush on Summer she'd gained due to their flirtatiouns back in Metropolis that he still returned and they accidentally rescued Thad from dying in a chaotic and quick incident and took him in since he had literally nowhere to go
And the Raven lore by Amrit:Her second ressurection takes place right before Under The Red Hood and the cult that did the ritual chose an indian girl's body because Azarath and Indian are closely linked.She dosen't rejoin the Teen Titans as she feels infantalized at the idea so she takes a year off but once it passes her life is still in shambles-She barely talks to any of her friends,most of her loved ones are dead and so many people are scared of her.Dick hires her to track down Jason and she loves and misses him so much she says yes so she's introduced as the first big Rhato villain but we actually don't know it's her at first and it's a grand reveal.Eddie is the only one who dosen't know who she is as Jason and Summer recognize her from their Robin and Sparks/sidekick days and her and Rose were actually friends during The Titans and the Dark Core Four help her accept her rage in a really cool fight scene,then she calls a truce with them and basically becomes their field medic 2 issues later and teaches them meditation and such practices.She starts patching things up with the other people in her life but her and Dick still argue a lot and when he finds out about her teaming up with The Outlaws,they have a huge fight that ironically makes her decide to officially join them and change her codename but they do eventually repair their relathionship
Pepperose was just a natural thing that happened-They flirted on first meeting mutually and Rose was shellshocked Pepper actually hit on her back and then kinda became obsessed with in a non-creepy way her LMFAO She acts like a booktok bf💀Peps is very happy about it though and they're 'gal pals' for about 50 issues before sealing the deal and doing the official girlfriends thing.Rose calls her Pinkie Pie and Pepper calls her 'my favorite rose'.Pepper dosen't really change all that much other than improved self-eestem and getting stronger(and bustier and curvier as her hrt really hits)but she also kills Slade for good out of love for Rose and that's when Rose kisses her,no holding back anymore and they're married by the 2nd to last issue and Rose's 'Willow' mantle comes in at issue 91 and her arc is a heavy but good one that's all about her being human despite what others say
Kahali was gruesomely murdered by The Joker as he filmed the whole thing and sent a physical copy to Summer with a note that said 'history repeats are as sweet as you are,Dearie Em' because of them being intergenerational best friends and partners on the hero field as Ember and Bloody Mary and he'd even taken on the parental role in his life,not just a mentor anymore after his mom's death and his birth dad being an abusive shitstain and they kept in touch which is how The Joker found Kahali.Summer was catatonic but also stuck in his dragon/Kryptofang form and when he snapped back to conciousness,he flew to Gotham before his cremation ceremony to dunk him in the Lazarus Pit,knowing it's exact location thanks to Talia helping out The Outlaws now and then as Jason's adoptive mom and lead of Taliacorp,the reworked ex-Lexcorp she took over in her run of the same name.Kahali came back with Pit Powers much stronger than Jason's and he rubs it in his face,along with it turning his hair completely white but he still dyes it red and Summer mother hen's him more than ever for obvious reasons(well those and the additional one is Summer also got killed and ressurected by a Gotham Rogue as a sidekick)and Kahali updated himself from Bloody Mary to his current moniker.Tim and him were a very atypical couple on every level but that only made them happier with and better for eachother and Tim entered his villain era as 'Dove' over what happened because he believed Kahali was his soulmate and saviour and even had plans to marry him despite not asking him out yet and ironically enough they reunited on the battlefield without recognizing eachother at first until Tim did first and unmasked himself in shock just like Jason did to Summer in Utrh.Time stood still until they rushed up to kiss in relief and disbelief in Tim's case and they started a secret long distance relathionship after that
Artemis joined for reasons that're a bit complicated to match her origin story but the jist of it is she was living in the normal world and deemed them worthy of her companionhood despite how annoying she found them(especially Jason)and they helped her out with her emotions and better translating her mannerisms and she technically turned into a goddess permanently(and willingly)and Kyle had a lot of crazy ass Lanterns shit happen that had him be forced by his mentors to take a breather and he choose a crosscountry roadtrip and he met his teammates by almost running Eddie over because he was trying to eat freshly made ramen and it got in his eyes.He had a bit of a morals trip with his new friends and old ex boygirlfriend he's still mutually flirty with sometimes to say the least(and ends the run thee White Lantern).There's heavy featuring of his parents and past in this because hooooooo boy,he is a character of all time!!
Duke is the 5th Robin because of Summer's involvement and he got a year in pretty good but then him and Bruce nearly broke apart over a fight and he got so scared of being fired as Robin because of being only a 12 year old technical orphan(jokerized parents and Gnonom for a biodad)he followed Summer's footsteps by ditching Gotham and that was how he meet Jason,who introduced himself as his true identity to him because of Summer's positive talk of him and accepted Duke's ask for shelter and so Duke was now an Outlaw.He wasn't forced to kill but he did become pretty harsh in fights and this caused him angst only for a bit as he was reassured by the older members.In Issue 39,Jason snarks he was just 'The Replacement Robin' and Duke defensively says 'You were always my favorite Robin when i was little!I never even got to see you in action but you're my favorite for good now!' and Jason is taken back and stunned,completely clueless on how to process it and in issue 110,Duke says to Jason '.....I was never a real Robin.I've been with you guys way longer than i ever was with Bruce-' and Jason cuts him off with 'Yeah,no shit you were never Batman's Robin.You're The Outlaws' Robin-You're my Robin and you always have been and you always will be' and Duke breaks down so Jason comforts him and that's when Summer walks in with their Dairy Super and Batburger double flight orders and asks what happened but helps in further comforting him before either even get to explain with Duke thanking him for being the reason he got to take the first step to heroism to which he gets platonically bubbly and flattered and tells him he's the perfect Robin and Duke does a toothy happy grin that takes up most of the last panel in that issue.A text box reads 'Duke Thomas is happy.Jason Todd is happy again,thanks to him.They're eachother's Robin,on purpose and by choice'
All the direct longlasting exposure to so much super science-y and magic jazz and trazz made his power system escelarate and he went from light and darkness powers to straight up reality warping.He gets stuck in a pocket dimension for a hot sec but Summer and Jason pull him out with Thad's help as an expert on that situation.The universe is trying to create the N52 but Duke's Robinhood is stopping it and in an arc of 18 issues to symbolize the 18 core Outlaws,Duke,Summer,Jason,Thad,Kahali,Jennifer,Mathew,Imani,Kyle,Venus,Raven,Eddie,Rose and Pepper get the headfirst headons into helping completely erase even the slimest posibility of the N52 canonizing but ALL The Outlaws are in on it,including an unfringed Tam as our Batgyal and honorary Outlaw for two and a half months at the time!!Duke as our Robin deserves that dramatic ahh 'We love you and always want you with us,nobody else could be our Robin' storyline.Our Sunspot has earned it
Imani gets hired because of her reputation as a leathily effecient spy and she fits right in,crying herself to sleep a few times after they'd been together long enough to call eachother family.She's a gremlin from the start and influences Mathew to be the same and she's close to everybody but Summer and her are interdimensional sisters soulmates a la Percy Jackson and Hazel Levesque and he was the first one to break down her walls and they go out of their way to defend the other nonstop and this helps Summer's eldest daughter syndrome trauma.Catblooded/Vimani starts in a remastered Gotham War which is about them and The Watchers and lest to say they're perfect together and Jason,Kyle,Mathew,Lilith and Jennifer NEVER let them live it down.Lilith's intro is a parody of Batman 357-Instead of stealing his tires,she hacked Jason's computer to leak his old Undertale chats and he begged her to join in humiliating ways only for it to be revealed she only did it for fun and came to join because Summer and him were close friends in their teen years but got seperated due to Hell bussiness.She made sure to take pictures 'to send to Summie of his cringelord ass hubbie'.None of these words are denied by anyone at all
At the same time this was happening,Artemis,Azriel,Thad,Pepper and Duke were on a mission and Artemis was almost fatally wounded but Daisy came in as her angel with healing oitments made with her chlorokinesis and Artemis saw her with a glowing pink halo around her head,too enchanted by her to care about almost dying.Daisy was a duo with Lilith and had the same reasoning as her for being there but they got seperated thanks to a villain attack and they're the team hacker and team botanist.They picked Venus up at a party she was DJ'ing and she started as only an ally but joined them officially in a parallel to Teen Titans 2003!Tara Markov after an angst arc and it actually took her and Kyle a hot sec to get officially together due thinking their attraction was purely physical and her and Pepper did a toon girlypop squee sequence after she got the official Outlaw title as Star Sapphire solidarity.Mathew was having insecurities over not being as good as Summer because he's not as Clark-esque as him
This leads into 'Superguy's Breaking Out' arc,when Lor-Zod infects him with black kryptonite and it functions as an angstified mythology gag to the widely beloved Multicolor Raven Emotions from the Teen Titans cartoon as we get Superguy,Negasuper,Supernega and Guysuper in manifistations of Mat's kindness,anger,envy and creativity and a Krypton heavy arc follows as it leads to the dual swords Kaliodoton and Kryptoscade,the legendary kryptonian swords that were wielded by various kryptonian and kryptofang duos throught Krypton's history and now Mathew Kent and Summer Kent to complete their journey to fix Mat's self-eestem and uncover even more of Fantasma's backstory,the ghost of the last surviving Kryptofang that lives in Summer's head as a DID metaphor(with the following symptoms and required trauma to turn him into a system!).Their quest lasts three weeks and they return to The Fortress to the world's biggest group hug with Mathew especially misty eyed but in a happy way and have a huge cultural fusion dinner they all made together that includes previously lost kryptonian recipes
Jennifer was missing from Gotham because she'd been given Lian's teleported across time and space multiple times storyline due to an accident that happened while on a quest for Solana Banks to restore her lost home dimension Helioas because she thought she'd found an articifact that would but misenterpreted it's powers.Lucky for her,her journey only lasted 1 year instead of multiple and she crashlanded inside The Fortress literally in the middle of The Outlaws video game night.She wasn't ready to live normally again just yet so she stayed and became an official member as a result,from Batgal to Batika.And to complete our family,Azriel had the easiest and most simplistic one-Lilith asked Jason to let her join them because of how strong she is and not having many friends so he accepted and she's actually the goriest of the Outlaws beating even Thee Red Hood in it and this is part of her demonic nature and carries no secret undertones to it.Like Flowergrace,Thadzriel was love at first newbie sight and they have such a sweet middle school dating dynamic
Raven and Kahali take a trip to India to rediscover and reclaim their respective cultures and bond in the process,becoming siblings almost as close as Kahali and Summer.They get matching jhumkas while they're there!!The other ooc(Outlaws of color)all get to visit their motherlands too at some point in the story and Pepper gets a bonus with the Pepperose wedding taking place in Italy
Luna appears in a significant amount of issues but since she's Aquafam she sticks to her own territory most of the time and her and Duke are purely platonic,having met in Robin 2007,with love not blooming until Duke becomes The Signal and leads a new team he made called The Lights with Luna joining as 'Moonguide' and they have a slowburn that spans until their adults years as Eris(Duke)and Selene(Luna).Like Summer to Jason,Luna is the Starfire to Duke's Robin and an honorary Kid Outlaw
Jaysumm's dynamic is childhood best friends and sidekick partners > Enemies only in the technical sense > Best friends again but Jason flirting with Summer constantly and Summer not buying Jason isn't joking because of their history together > Being insuferably obviously in love and Summer's literally the ONLY one who dosen't know > Fwb who act like a couple already with Jason still only knowing it on his side and angst for him as a result > Sneaking off to take Jon off trick or treating in opposite costumes(fairy goddess princess and blood moon werewolf)and Summer's epiphany finally happens so he confesses when they make it home and Jason confesses back so they make out and sleep together literally > Official couple when exactly 11 issues remaining in a 120 part series LMFAO
🎶They don't give a damn about their reputation🎶 < Had to make that joke,mb kings.But yeah they generally don't care about perception from normies and ARE here to unteach propaganda as they fuck around and make people find out the systems are fucked.It's very embarrasing for certain superheroes that the eco-terrorists without the no kill code are better parents to their kids than they are to theirs and their legacy stays even post quasi-disbanment(They keep in contact forever ofc,it's just the plot needed them elsewheres and there's common reunions and video calls)
Culturally fused team,both race and species.Afrolatino and brown latino,kryptonian and amazonian,speedster abonimation and macabita demon,human and meta and so forth.Subculture fused too as they frequently participate in eachother's aesthetics and interests and they're all multilingual.Clashes between them occasionally but never too bad
The genre is like.Superhero comedy but also horror but also fantasy but also sci-fi but also urban fantasy but also surrealism but also romance drama but also psychological thriller????????It's the Homestuck of DC,everything ever happens in Red Hood and The Outlaws 2010-2020.This includes the catgirls and the hyperspecific lore and the weird ass art that's somehow good and the-
The covers always fuck NO exceptions,Summer does meta commentary telling fans to not buy their merch officially and to instead get it secondhand or they'll be dissapointing him but Pepper full on breaks the fourth wall and Jennifer gained the same power from the No N52 Mission and Lilith can too,it has it's own official opening on the official DCAU channel and a few shorts and this includes a pride video like the Bubbline one by Cartoon Network and it stars Jaysumm,Pepper is the most well-known and beloved trans DC character,they're SUPER popular in in Latin America and with latino-americans,it has multiple lego sets and The Outlaws Girls even got their own doll line and they have crossover mini series with Young Justice that's 24 issues and called 'Just Us,No Laws'
Live action cast:Aubrey Joseph as Jason,Booboo Stewart as Eddie,Chelsea Zhang as Rose,Amandla Stenberg as Summer,Lonnie Chavis as Thad,Nicole Maines as Pepper,Avantika Vandanapu as Raven,Jenna Qureshi as Kahali,Issac Ryan Brown as Duke,Trina Mcgee as Imani,Diego Tinocco as Kyle,Imaan Hammam as Artemis,Halle Bailey as Venus,Walker Scobell as Mathew,Teyonah Harris as Daisy,Ruby Baker for Lilith,Riele Dowds as Jennifer,Priah Ferguson as Azriel,Coco Jones as Tam and Shanina Shaik as Talia
The arcs names' in order:Ignite arc,In This City arc,Blood Maker arc,Cat got your tongue? arc,Man's World arc,Superguy! arc,Motherland arc,Speak of the Devil arc,StarWillow arc,Gotham-Hoods arc,Outlawed Robin arc and In with the Outs arc(finale)
There's a Scooby Doo crossover event since it's confirmed DC is canon to the Scoobertverse and it's 27 issues and titled 'Scooby Doo and The Outlaws',a graphic novel by Bryan O'Malley in the Scott Pilgrim artstyle and storytelling font called 'Jason Todd's After Afterlife' and multiple Rhato x Atsv official arts because of Summer inspiring Hobie Brown's recreation as Spiderpunk in the 2010s with Superpunk in the 1990s as a butterfly effect ala Donald Grover and Miles Morakes(and there's even one of Gayatri meeting Kahali and Jaysumm meeting Punkflower)
#rhato#the outlaws#jason todd#summer kent#eddie bloomberg#rose wilson#thaddeus thawne#pepper jackson#raven tt#duke thomas#kahali roy#imani javiera#kyle rayner#artemis grace#venus park#mathew kent#daisy hilliard#lilith morningstar#jennifer williams#azriel morningstar#tam fox#talia al-ghul#afrolatino jason supremacy#latino superfam tag#trans superfam tag#black flashfam#indian raven supremacy#egyptian artemis grace#jaysumm#summerposting
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Iris totally owed Oliver an apology. Iris needs a dose of reality.
#arrow#crossover#oliver queen deserves better#oliver queen#flarrowverse#flarrow#cw flash#the flash#flash cw#the flash cw#barry allen#iris west#iris west allen#barry x iris#elseworlds#arrowverse#cw arrow#green arrow
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It makes me so upset that both the marvels and blue beetle has been treated like shit by their studios and by the fandoms that the studio have created . Like both did poorly in box office but that was not the fault of the movies itt was the fault of the studios absolutely doing nothing to premote the movies during the strikes and also the fandom (white af) being Jackasses about the films.
Brie iman teyonah and xolo deserve so much better and a fucking major apology for what happened by the studio 😔😔😔😔
racism and sexism totally have a part to play in it too though. like yes the studios are shit for not properly advertising it but like theres this deep set hatred of people of color in the comics fandom. like Monica Rambeau has always been Black, Jaime Reyes has always been a brown Latino, Kamala Khan has always been Desi and muslim. white people are constantly saying they don't want white characters racebent anymore (Iris West Allen, Ariel from the Little mermaid etc). but when presented with actual characters of color white people claim its a woke agenda thats them.
Like its just really frustrating superhero movies are finally super inclusive (racially at least) and now the whites are nowhere to be found.
and before anyone comes into our inbox to complain about this just look at how well Barbie did in theaters.
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Round 2
Propaganda Under Cut
Iris West
Treated terribly by fandom because of racism and misogyny
Iris is one of the oldest Flash characters (well, oldest by measure of the Silver Age Flash) and despite the show's problems she was adapted pretty well. Her being pushed aside 100% has to do with her being Black in the adaptation. The most popular ship on Ao3 for that show is her white husband x a white passing supervillain clearly intended to be read as actually white who has been in LITERALLY ~SIX EPISODES. He DIED IN 2016. THEY ARE STILL DOING THIS
Gets mom friended like you wouldn't BELIEVE. People hate her because she was childhood best friends with The Flash and has chemistry with him :( like it's her fault she's sweet and smart and not the male blue coded villain to the red hero. I am so tired
Stephanie Brown
Literally my best friend ever!!! Every time she shows up in a comic I point at her and smile!!! She’s the vigilante known as spoiler & batgirl & was a robin before getting fridged because of editorial mandate and misogyny she deserves so much better @_@. The m/m that some people hate her for is timkon; like they ARE very gay but people are genuinely insane about hating her instead of also realizing that she too is gay (insane amount of subtext w her bff cass). Basically she was Tim’s girlfriend for a long time on and off. People will literally call her abusive for no reason they’ll be like oh but she didn’t apologize for starting a gang war accidentally and faced no consequences for it :/ as if she wasn’t literally KILLED OFF BRUTALLY. And although hate is rarer for her nowadays from what I’ve seen she’s also a victim of Background Lesbian Syndrome. And also a victim of Woman Not Allowed To Have Ocmplex Feelings in the source material itself (tim is canonically bi now yay but like steph wasn’t allowed to have any complicated feelings at all at her on again off again ex breaking up with her for good???). Anyways she’s the light of my life.
she’s the light of my life my baby girl my everything. she canonically dated tim drake, but people love to ship tim with his male friend kon or his male brothers (🤢🤮) and so they constantly sideline her, making her the quirky wingwoman or sometimes even villainizing her by trying to claim she was abusive to tim. i don’t know why so many people hate her my girl will literally just be standing there and people will hate on her.
Stephanie was first introduced in the 1994 Robin series as a side love interest for Robin, but when she turned out to be really popular she became the main love interest. Because of this, she was fully fleshed out as a vigilante calling herself Spoiler to try and take down her villainous father, the Cluemaster. She later grew a lot closer to other cast members, such as Batgirl and Oracle, to get herself a firmly established place among the bats. Then, she dies in a gang war after taking up the Robin mantle. Eventually, in 2009, she was brought back from the dead and took on the Batgirl mantle. Her and Robin get back together sometime around ~2010 and they are solidly together until 2021. Then, Robin breaks up with her off panel for zero reason in canon, only to date some really boring guy named Bernard. By fanon, she's often demonized and turned into an abuser to make either this ship, or a lot of other mlm ships happen. Either that or things are mysteriously set in the time she's dead despite characters who were not yet introduced until she returned appearing. strange.
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37 + Iris for angsty writing prompts.
This takes place during s3...and aside from the major divergence featured here, it's canon-compliant, so you can interpret Caitlin and KF as separate people or the same person. Also, this could be considered a mini follow-up to this, though it can also stand on its own:
Iris had failed.
She’d really thought she could get through to Savitar, touch at the heart of Barry inside him and pull the darkness out…she’d gotten so close—
But she’d failed, and off he’d gone, and she was going to die in a few hours’ time.
And by the hand of an evil version of her fiancé. And only to hurt Barry. It was just about the most devastating thing ever. Iris barely held it together until he left before finally breaking down sobbing.
What kind of fiancée—what kind of best friend—was she, that she couldn’t save him even when her own life was at stake?
What happened to you, Barry? What did this to you? Who did?
Iris wasn’t sure how long she spent crying before someone shook her sharply. “Come on, West. Dry your eyes. We don’t have time for that.”
“Wh…?” She startled backwards upon seeing Killer Frost approaching. “What are you doing here?”
The other woman arched an eyebrow and held up a gleaming knife. “I could just leave you bound up here to die, if you’d prefer.”
Iris pursed her lips, locked in a stalemate with her former friend, before nodded—Killer Frost knelt down to cut her bindings.
“Why?”
“Why what?”
“Why are you helping me?”
Killer Frost pursed her lips but didn’t speak for a while. Finally, she said, “What you said, before. If Savitar gets his memory back, what’s in it for you?”
Iris scoffed. “Took you that long to decide you deserved better?”
Killer Frost scowled. “Someone’s being awfully testy to her rescuer.”
“Trying to get my bearings,” Iris replied tightly, “that’s all. I can’t make my situation any worse, anyway.”
Caitlin pursed her lips, speaking again when one wrist was free. “Well, it wasn’t just you. It was Cisco too. Never wanting to hurt me, even at my worst…reminding me that Savitar was only using me.”
“That was Barry.”
“Cisco too,” Killer Frost retorted sharply, “and I wasn’t gonna take any guidance from the man who couldn’t be bothered about me once your life was on the line.”
Iris frowned. “That’s not—”
“Fair? Oh yes it is.” Killer Frost sighed. “But that’s not your fault. From what Cisco says…you were the person most worried about me. Well…second-most. And you don’t deserve to die over all this. Not for Barry’s sake…or for anyone’s. I realized I deserve better…and so do you. Better than these roles Savitar has shoved us in.”
“And yet you stay with him.”
“Not anymore. Pull your left wrist.” Iris did so, finding it free to move. “You’re free now, so take my advice, Iris: run on back home to your knight in shining armor, leave me be. I have my own destination in mind.”
Iris frowned.
Killer Frost scoffed. “If I wanted to kill you myself, I’d do it right here and now.”
“That’s not what I’m worried about.”
“Then what are you worried about?”
“You.” Iris stood up, grabbing the other woman’s hands and squeezing. “Are you gonna be okay?”
Killer Frost hesitated. For a moment, Iris could swear her eyes turned brown.
But only for a moment, and Killer Frost yanked her hands away. “Worry about yourself, West.”
Iris’s heart sank. “Caitlin—”
“Frost,” came the sharp correction. “If you ever speak of me again, if we ever meet again, call me that. Until then…Savitar won’t be gone long. You should hurry. This place isn’t too far from STAR if you head east.”
“You should hurry too,” Iris said softly. K—Frost didn’t respond, though, so Iris sighed, slowly walking towards the exit. At the last moment, though, she turned. “Frost?”
“…yes?” Came the hesitant reply, though Frost didn’t look at her
“I forgive you. Please take care of yourself.”
Iris could swear Frost’s shoulders tensed at that, but she didn’t wait to be sure—Frost was right about the time limit, and Iris didn’t have much time.
As she ran out the door, though, stealthily making her way back—it was sunset, thank God, so she headed away from the sun…and sure enough, she was back at STAR Labs before long.
Barry was the first to see her, the first to sweep her up in a hug and whisper a shaky “Thank God,” and Iris kissed him soundly and nestled into his hug with an overwhelming sense of relief.
All the while, though…she kept thinking of Frost. Of Caitlin, though evidently her friend had shed that name.
Iris knew how to read people—she’d taken classes on it, to boot, and being a journalist had given her much more practice—and she knew one thing for certain:
Frost had the same look in her eyes that Caitlin got when she was scared.
And Iris could almost weep for how helpless she was in the face of that.
prompt list!
#lavi’s prompt fills#iris west#iris west allen#killer frost#caitlin snow#(she's there in spirit. and possibly present for a couple seconds)#the flash#takes place during 3x22
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since the flash is over, I’d like to say that candice patton deserved a better fandom and I hope she gets every role she dreams of and the ones y’alls problematic faves are up for cause a vast majority of yall treated candice patton and the character of iris west allen like hot garbage
she deserves a fabulous career after all the heavy lifting she had to do and all the nastiness she had to endure.
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5+ headcanons for an AU where Barry tells Iris about his powers in episode 1 instead of telling Joe?
I do indeed have so many ideas and opinions here. :D
So Barry realizes he can run super fast and accidentally face plants in a laundry truck (isn't that lucky???) and the first person he wants to tell is Iris. She's the one who has always believed in him about weird and impossible things, so he goes to her first and shows her what he can do. With a soft landing spot since he's still working on stopping.
Iris encourages Barry to go to Dr. Wells, Cisco, and Caitlin for help figuring out his powers. She's perhaps a bit iffy on Wells, but Cisco and Caitlin were nice people who she got to know fairly well with all the visiting STAR Labs. Barry wasn't exactly talkative during that time, after all, so Iris ended up slowly befriending Cisco and Caitlin and she trusts them even if their boss is kinda a dick.
Joe would probably find out as per canon and then immediately go into the doghouse by trying to exclude Iris. Iris would not take that well and it'd be a West feud in Episode 2. With Barry, perhaps, pointing out that Iris hasn't told Joe about dating Eddie and that while she deserves to be angry about Joe attempting to keep secrets from her... she's already keeping secrets from him.
I think not telling Eddie would be a point of contention for them early on. Iris loves Eddie, of course she thinks he's trustworthy. But Barry doesn't know Eddie and is jealous of him for being Iris' boyfriend. Barry would likely make the (very valid) point that it's his secret, not Iris', and he doesn't actually know Eddie well at all yet. Iris would thus push Barry and Eddie to hang out together so that they will know each other better.
Thus, a Barry & Eddie bonding episode! Maybe after the Rainbow Raider episode, though, so that there's tension over Eddie understandably not being thrilled about the Flash hurting him and Barry coming to like Eddie despite himself, but not feeling he can tell Eddie about being the Flash. Because Eddie doesn't like the Flash right now and if he knew Barry was the Flash then he wouldn't like Barry anymore.
That said, with Iris read in she'd blog about how the Flash's actions were a result of being affected by the Rainbow Raider, so the Flash's reputation would take less of a hit after that incident.
There'd be a lot more Barry/Iris/Eddie moments and Barry would realize that he's got feelings for Eddie too at some point, making dating Linda an attempt to get over not just Iris, but Eddie too, which Linda figures out very quickly at the bowling double date.
Linda - Hey, Iris, I'm gonna break up with Barry because you and your boyfriend are pretty clearly in love with him and it's reciprocated. Iris - O_O what???
Now Joe would be against telling Eddie that Barry's the Flash, but I think with Iris encouraging Barry to do so and Barry liking Eddie so much, that it would eventually happen. Though when it happens determines whether Eddie is upset over having secrets kept from him.
Earliest point would probably be when Eddie steps in to save Barry from Mick & Len using one of the shields Cisco made. Barry realizes that Eddie doesn't hate the Flash after all and might be willing to hear Barry out over the Rainbow Raider debacle and comes clean. Eddie probably still wouldn't be thrilled to have had this secret kept from him for the last few months but he'd understand that Barry didn't know him until the last few months so building up that trust had to take some time first.
Later it goes, however, more likely that Eddie needs an episode or two to get over the betrayed feeling and maybe it becomes a sore spot that Eobard can hammer at later on.
Eobard probably would be of two minds about looping Iris in. It's annoying because Barry is more likely to argue against EoWells when they disagree with Iris supporting him. But Iris is dating his ancestor while not also being his ancestor, so Eobard is eager for ways to break that couple up before wedding bells destroy his very existence. And then Barry catches feelings for Eddie too and Eobard is just kinda going 'well fuck' and whining to Gideon about 'why does everyone like my useless ancestor anyway???'
(Gideon - maybe it's because he's not a dick like you are? Eobard - What was that? Gideon - Nothing.)
Eddie getting a secondary exposure to dark energy during the Flash vs Reverse Flash fight triggers his Cobalt Blue powers. So while shooting himself doesn't kill him (healing powers, though he still needs the bullet removed later, Caitlin muttering rude words while the blue flames keep trying to heal Eddie mid-surgery, this is a pain in the butt) it does alter Eddie's future significantly enough that there's no chance of Eobard's specific ancestral line happening anymore. So Eobard still paradoxes out of existence right before Eddie spontaneously heals via flame.
Anyway, this is obviously endgame westhallen because I cannot resist throwing in a westhallen agenda here.
#kitkatt0430 answers#the flash#au headcanon game#thank you for asking#fic ideas#barry allen#iris west#eddie thawne
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Idk if this is a hot take or anything, but for the Flash and Arrow, I ship Barry and Oliver with literally anyone else other than Iris and Felicity. When I first started watching the shows a few years ago, I was hard-core West-Allen and Olicity but now that I want back and rewatched the shows...I fucking cringe.
I loved Barry and Patty together. They were literal perfection for each other, and I loved that Patty could defend herself. She had all the makings to become a bad ass in her own right. Other than Patty, I don't think Barry had that much of a connection with anyone other than Snart and trust me...I'm a huge fan of BarryxSnart. Love everything about them.
As for Oliver, I couldn't really get behind any ship for him, not even Laurel. Idk, but I think he did best when he didn't have a romantic love interest. Now don't get me wrong, I love Laurel, love her to pieces BUT I simply loved Laurel and Tommy way too much to see her with anyone else. I just think they deserved better. Anywho, if I did have to decide on the perfect person for Oliver, it would either be Sara or Nyssa and yes i know Nyssa is gay but I loved their platonic relationship even when they were married.
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