#iris west hater

[rosescxrner]

potential spoilers; the flash

Maturing is realising that Eddie Thawne was nothing more than the pretty boy detective who fell in love with his partner's daughter. Maturing is realising that Linda Park was being gaslit into thinking her boyfriend was in love with someone just to keep her away from him. Maturing is realising Barry Allen was just trying to get over an unrequited love and deserved to be happy with someone that could actually admit they loved him. Maturing is realising that Iris West is a bit manipulative and should not have been Barry Allen's endgame.

[zeroducks-2]

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anon I'm sorry I don't see the red heart in the list D: Maybe I'm blind. I'm gonna have to skip it.

💛: What is a popular ship you just can't get behind, and why?

Since I already talked about Dickbabs I'm gonna go with DickTim. I do see where it comes from, but it's one of those rare cases where I prefer their relationship to be a platonic friendship with familial feelings rather than romantic and/or sexual. ALSO THEY ARE BOTH BOTTOMS AHEM

💚: What does everyone else get wrong about your favorite character?

"Eobard Thawne is Barry Allen's Number One Hater and the pettiest person to have ever lived!" makes me wonder if ppl have actually read the same comics as me.

🖤: Which character is not as morally good as everyone else seems to think?

I've mentioned Bruce, now I'll raise you Alfred Pennyworth, Bruce Wayne's Number One Enabler and most dryass cunt you can meet in the DC character ensemble, but somehow gets treated like the perfect sweet and affectionate granpa you could ever wish for.

❤: Which character do you think is the most egregiously mischaracterized by the fandom?

There isn't just one but the first that comes to mind is Wally West. Wally has a very dark side which is a delight to explore, especially as it comes out mostly when he's around Barry, but almost everyone seems hell bent on pretending that he's some sort of perfect baby who could never do wrong.

🏳️‍🌈: Which character who is commonly headcanoned as queer doesn't seem queer to you?

Unfortunately I have this condition which is called "Everyone is queer because I said so", so it's really hard to answer this question. I guess I've seen people arguing that Iris is actually a lesbian and Barry is her beard, but while I'm not a fan of modern Newsflash, I really don't think Iris likes women, that is not the point of their problem. But I don't think this could be considered an unpopular opinion anyway.

ask game here

[blackgirlsuperherorants]

Tbh I'm Black and I thought people shipping Namor and Shuri were just a bunch of cidhet White reylos. And from what I'm seeing it is the same for a lot of us. It's time to accept that Black people are going to be divided in this matter, and that's okay we don't all think the same. But we aren't getting anywhere assuming the haters are just white by default

I used to live on tumblr more but now I live on TikTok more and I've seen nothing but Black women discussing this ship and I didn't even know there was controversy around it until I got literally attacked lol. It's also weird to assume someone is white, period. I usually only assume someone is white when they're, like, on Twitter saying some outrageous Far Right political shit but preface it with "As a Black man,". (Or I assume they're a bot.)

Like, it's out of left field, to me. Idk how other Black women are taking it, but it's crazy, like literally delusional and insane, to me, to assume that I would make this blog years and years and years ago and just elect to be one of the most underrepresented and disrespected demographics of comics fans and superhero movie fans for fun so that I could... disagree with the fans of a movie that wasn't even in the realm of existing, yet. Like, I'm a white Reylo (I don't even like Reylo, or Star Wars fans at all tbh). I played the long game, pretending to like Iris West and Misty Knight and Valkyrie and defending Anna Diop and all of that... just so I could sneak my white ass in to ship Shuri with a character y'all find distasteful? I remember a few years back when people were shipping Shuri with Bucky and a lot of people objected, but I don't remember this level of vitriol and I don't recall anyone just trying to strip long-standing blogs of their identity over it. Marvel fans have always had disagreements and shipping has always been one of the biggest ones, but I've never, in my life, felt so attacked over an opinion that I don't even hold that strongly. Like I said, I don't care about the ship that much. I only said it was fun. I don't see how shipping 2 fictional people, even lightly, even in passing, is antiblack. Antiblackness is such a bigger thing than "you shipped characters I don't like".

Usually, we're fighting the opposite, which is nobody shipping the Black characters at all, or not liking any ships with Black characters, or treating the Black characters in the ship like the psychologist for the non-Black characters in the ship. I ain't never seen no shit like this. I didn't know y'all didn't like antagonist/protagonist ships that hard. I didn't come on here to convince anyone of anything, I just came here because it's usually a fun place to geek out about these movies and things. But, no, it's not fun. Y'all are on here making huge judgements of people over shipping... like Ryan Coogler wrote it that way. Talk to him, if it bothers you that much.

But to question my entire identity, my family, my political leanings, my loyalty to my community? It's sick. Like, I can't even defend myself. If I start saying, like, I was literally getting tear gassed at BLM protests in 2020, I sound ridiculous. If I say ACAB, I sound like I'm trying too hard to convince y'all I'm Black. If I talk about actual Black American issues I care about, like the school to prison pipeline, I sound like I'm just bringing up talking points. But you guys get to decide I hate myself and other Black women because of Shuri and Namor, a fictional African princess and a fish man who were written into a screenplay. Like, what fucking sense does that make?

Like, none of this is real, but I am a real person behind this account. Y'all are making me physically ill over this.

[wisconsin2002]

It's been two seasons now.

Yep I still don't understand the point of her character at all.

Honestly the more time goes by the more I'm starting to realise Zoe is the Iris West of miraculous. A character introduced into the the story that you can just tell from the get go that the writers had no idea wtf to do with her.

Which sucks because unlike some people. I actually think Zoe was a great character to introduce into miraculous. The opposite of chloe and she's got her own story to tell. The platonic chemistry she creates with Plagg as well is so sweet and great.

(Hot take: Honestly they should have just let Zoe keep Plagg for a bit longer because I can't express how sick and tired I am of fucking Adrien and Marinette giving up their miraculous when they feel defeated. It was fine in the New York special but it quickly overstayed it's welcome and it holds no sentimental value at all to me anymore cause I know this shows writing and I know they will get it back in the same episode or an episode later. 😮‍💨 So if Zoe actually has chemistry and wants to fight side by side with Plagg and Scarabella to feel safe and wanted. MOTHERFUCKER LET HER! Let her do different shit and explore more with that! God knows the actual héros will just abandone their responsibility anyway and make their Kwamis hit the dusty trail to find a new holder all because of their fucking telenovela dramatic romantic depression or whatever the fuck.

(I cannot be bothered with the way the show is acting like Marinette and Adrien were always so in love with eachother even tho Adrien didn't feel that way about Marinette until season five. THE DAMN SEASON WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW! He literally simps so hard for ladybug in season 4 and not once had any romantic feelings for Marinette in the entirety of 4 seasons and two specials! But nah now he wants Marinette all of a sudden so badly. This is good development to people? Are you shitting me?💀

"she's just a friend", "She's just a friend", "She's just a friend", "she's just a friend" "she's just a friend", "I like you now😍"

😮‍💨Anyways

Just allow Zoe to be the badass for a while. Going back to what I was saying. )

Her romantic feelings on Marinette, she's Chloé's sister who still loves and believes in Chloe despite their differences. I mean dude the possibilities are endless.

But no instead they sideline her in her own focus episodes for no reason or only bring her out to be Visperia and barely do jackshit in the background.

God knows what happened to this. (The missed potential here will always annoy me so much.) This could have brought Chloe back to the light and made Zoe a much more interesting character to connect with at the same time. Chloe Exploring a secret nice bond with her sister to give her character layers (AGAIN) while still being consistent with her hatred for Ladybug after the events of seasons 3 while Zoe starts to notice Chloe's obsessiveness with Ladybug and what that's turning her sister into and that causes some distance between her and Zoe which starts to make Chloe truly think and realize how much more important Zoe is to her than the grudge she holds against ladybug that has only dragged her down deeper and made her lose herself and those close to her.

(put me in the writers room bro I gotchu😎)

Instead they just make her another Chloe hater cause god knows we haven't had enough of those characters already.

Anyways what else? Oh yeah.

She's lesbian.

Cool. We... gonna... do anything.. with that.. or?

Nah? We're just going toss it in with no payoff? Alrighty.

Don't get me wrong. I knew Zoe and Marinette were never going to be a thing. I never expected that at all. But I did expect for us to atleast explore something with Zoe's sexuality instead of just dropping it on her like a dead gold fish in a tank as the fish sinks to the bottom of the tank cause we didn't feed it and did fuck all with it. Basically got the Julerose treatment. Like every other lgbtq+ MLB character who's not a milf or over the age of 30.

You know what? Chloe and Zoe actually do have something in common.

They're both characters with so many interesting pathways to be explored and taken in but the writers said "fuck that" and took them fucking knowhere even remotely interesting or memorable.

In conclusion. Zoe deserved better. She is a character that could have worked if the people behind this fucking show cared to make anything work. But no. Characters continue to be assassinated and/or sidelined and written out of the story.

But that's okay cause Marinette and Adrien go Smooch Smooch this season😘 and nothing else matters. Fuck the characters, fuck actual development with payoff. Nope. Kissy kissy and hand holding is all that matters.

[woonova]

Iris West hater 4 life 🔥🔥💯

[tana-draws]

honestly my playlist is slightly weird genre wise. No specific genre qualifications. The main qualifications (with three exceptions) are that they go hard, fit the theme, and fit the vibes (theme and vibes are very different. 33 West and The Killers (killers my beloved <3) both have songs that fit vibe-wise, but don’t fit the theme for one reason or another.

anyway here are some songs/bands/artists that, although good on their own, are a bit odd on the same playlist (the three exceptions I mentioned are bolded:)

A club edit of an Ed Sheeran song (specifically a club edit cause the song was a must but I’m not a huge fan of his. Not a hater either he’s just ok.)

Dropkick Murphy’s (my dad introduced me to them and one song. Man. Dang. That song.)

Slipknot and TWO Mother Mother songs (these two I think are vaugely similar to both eachother and Broken Iris, idk I don’t know shit about genres, hence why they were put together.)

A specific version of some random Italian opera song (I’m not even a fan of opera in general. As of now my bio says “unhealthy commitment to the bit��� or something of that nature. This is a incredibly morbid/unfortunate example of that. If I could I would make it so this song is on the playlist but it’s not listed so if someone goes through the songs and is like “nice” and play it and this song comes up they’ll just go “….0-0 :////“ I crave violence. Iykyk)

Madonna? (Honestly I don’t know much about her but True Blue fit so…)

ABBA (abba my beloved <333)

Broken by lovelytheband (I specified broken cause it has this weird form of “not reallt a popular song when I was kid but I associated it with my childhood cause my parents like it” nostalgia that is it’s own genre of songs that exists to me and only me and maybe my brother so…)

This Side of Paradise by Coyote Theory (specified this side of paradise cause it’s well known and I feel people would be more likely to recognize it than the band itself)

A Sixties Love song that induces mild impatience in me? (Also Mouse Rat, thst parks and rec band, did a cover of it, which is neat)

How to save a life by The Fray (again, like Broken, i consider this song part of a genre I made up that’s just “songs that give the same energy to me and me alone cause my parents liked them”)

some other songs but I’m lazy.

smash or pass (but for keeping a song on a playlist

I’m making a playlist (what’s it based off of? Don’t worry about it) but I’m bad at making decisions. I’m not sure if I should keep A New Hope by Broken Iris. Cause it goes hard and fits but also can be repetitive and also somewhat impatience inducing to an annoying extent. Depends on my mood So you, yes you dear viewer, can decide wether or not this song slaps.

Feel free to listen to the full thing before voting

[notyetbulletproof]

Honestly I was full on expecting them to get Bart to sing the Westallen song. Then Jordan Fisher opens his beautiful mouth and reminds us he’s practically perfect in every way and sings that???

Also why they didn’t do this part of the song I will never understand. Criminal! Honestly release the whole clip so we can see Jordan sing the whole song please.

Here it is:

Walk straight into the fire

I'd bet anything on my love

We'll be lost in time, love

…

You can't count on timing

Or just wait and see

Also, side note—-singing a song about settling down and making the moment last with the person you love is so perfect for Westallen? Especially followed by Barry bringing Iris with him into Flashtime (the only non speedster he can do this with because he is so deeply in love with her and she’s his lightning rod)?? “I want this moment to last forever”!!

The symbolism of “waiting for the other person” for “settling” in a relationship between a speedster (always in movement) and his lightning rod (his tether and support), of Barry who is always running but is also always running home to Iris. The symbolism of being at “a state of rest” and finding peace is just awesome and I am here for it.

Thanks Bart and thanks Eric for making sure we didn’t miss out on Jordan just being his usual epic self.

[zayray030]

I was watching a clip on YouTube for when Iris confronts Barry about being the flash and I saw a lot of hate comments towards her so I just need to make it clear on why Iris should have been told first.

This girl was the first and only person to believe him when he said that his dad hadn't killed his mom.

This girl stuck with him through thick and thin when he was getting bullied and was going through serious depression and people not believing him about his mom and his dad being unfairly locked up.

Iris was the one who wrote the blog about the flash because she wanted people to acknowledge the fact that the impossible existed and to help Barry and to find a way to help his dad.

But instead he told Eddie, the guy who tried to get him arrested.

This show treats Iris like shit but the viewers treat her even shittier.

[centaurs-arejerks]

Times like these are when i want a twitter because i really want to ask candice patton how she gets her pretty eyes to be so sparkly????? Like????? They are literally sparkling in every scene and they are so huge and expressive? If she wanted something and she batted her sparkly anime eyes at me, i would start a nuclear winter to get her what she wanted. And your honor, that's why i move to officially classify candice patton's eyes as wmd's

[irl]

but more than me bein a halbarry hater, im an iris west lover

before im human, im an iris west fan

im not a halbarry hater i jus think its v funny n silly

alexa pls send my tweet im beggng u

[iriswestaf]

IRIS. WEST-ALLEN. REALLY. THREW. HERSELF. OFF. A. BUILDING. TO. SAVE. HER. HUSBAND.

[sophisticatedloserchick]

Me laughing at the racist misogynist part of the Flash fandom who thought Iris would be a horrible Mom based on the previews for tonight’s episode

[purplecyborgnewt]

Note: it’s a slideshow, not an article. I don’t like slideshows all that much. But linking to this anyway, because Iris and Eobard and Cisco are deservedly on the list! (And also some non-Flash characters I care about who could’ve been higher-ranked than they are tbh.)

[iammarkisha]

I find it funny when you reply to a Iris hater, who shows up in the tag, with facts and they block you and remove ur reply. oh well. I guess they don't want to believe, and let others who irrationally hate iris, believe that the character they constantly hate isn't the reason for the ratings drop. Which isn't even that significant.

[radiatehate]

Wassup with all you anti iris dick eaters?

It doesn't take a genius to remember some shit and apply logic. Stfu, eat your dick, and leave iris alone.

[chocolateisgreatandlifeisboring]

I see some people ignoring Iris’ pain because Barry had to go save the world, but he still basically died. Does she not get to be upset about that? She does, okay.