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miss mitternacht fucking balling
she's bawling?? oh, no no. she's Ballin'
#i still need to figure out how i want mitternacht's body to look since i dont draw her Nearly enough as i should#tried giving her this sorta Mechanical look with her arms n legs#she's also (supposed) to have some anthro avian legs but they didn't work well for the Actual basketball poses lol whoops#god game#askums 2#my dear im Fucking Balling#great god grove#this is also allowed in the tags I've Decided
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"It would be my pleasure to give you a proper tour and introduce you to everyone."
Here is my full illustration for @svsssbigbang for the fanfiction Night at Cang Qiong Museum by @adventure-waffles! An incredible Night at the Museum x Scum Villain AU! Don't hesitate to also check out the other two artists incredible pieces for this fanfiction: dustmeadowx and qiye!
And since I know that tumblr tends to destroy the quality of my illustrations, here are some close-ups under the cut:



#svsss#scum villain's self saving system#ren zha fanpai zijiu xitong#bingqiu#liu qingge#luo binghe#shen yuan#bingyuan#yue qingyuan#e-ming#making a cameo because idk I thought it'd fit#night at the museum au#svsss au#fanfiction fanart#fanfic fanart#svsssbigbang#myart#“I'll make paintings in the backgroud it'll be easier!” little did I know... I would have to learn chinese inking techniques for this#I've visited a lot of museums while working on this illustration and it helped greatly#in my top museums? Kanagawa's history museum and the Cluny Museum in Paris first got great exhibits second great lighting#seen lots of buddhist art too in japan so that inspired me to draw yqy as a statue#I tried to imitate the cloth folds and the way they sculpted the hair on those buddhas while also keep it different enough#anyway look at sy why is he so short he's so cute I could carry him in my pocket#he looks like a twelve year old boy that got lost in the museum aaaaw (that's a grown man)#go read the fic now what are you still in the tags for go go
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I've been messaging with a 17yo kid from Gaza, named Nader.
When I asked what he wanted people to know about his family's situation, he immediately answered "the bitter cold".
His other answer was about how incredibly expensive everything is in Gaza right now. Here's context: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/16/how-much-does-food-cost-in-gaza
Can you imagine being in this situation? Made homeless where the stores are no longer getting consistent deliveries and might be bombed, the government is barely operating cuz it keeps getting bombed, there's not even charity getting into your besieged area, and most people's jobs—including your big brother's—have been bombed beyond repair?
Where it's getting so cold and you CAN'T get warm because you're relying on strangers to help you get that coat or blanket, or bc you need the little money that trickles in to just survive??
And can you imagine living this way for OVER A YEAR as a normal teenager who has a little brother and a baby niece with malnutrition to stress about too?
I know people are tired of hearing about Gaza. It's upsetting that this genocide has continued so long with so few powerful people even trying to stop it. But we have a responsibility to our fellow humans, to help them survive persecution.
Nader is seventeen. None of this should be on his shoulders. Please help his family be safe so he can stop feeling like it's his job to make sure his family has what they need.
This campaign was verified as authentic by gazavetters (#4 on this spreadsheet), which I have seen Palestinians I trust cite as a trusted source.
Can you give up one treat this week to help Nader's family have the basics?
If you donate at least $10 and comment on this post with proof, I'll record a silly voice message for you or draw you a post it note doodle!
Please also consider following @abdalsalam1990, the tumblr account this family is using to try to raise funds, as a reminder to yourself to share the campaign or contribute in the future.
Tagging usernames off the top of my head in hopes you'll share this fundraiser; please message me if you don't want to be tagged in things like this, or if I didn't tag you but you DO want to be tagged in posts like this.
Edit edit: thank you @transmutationisms for teaching me how tagging works 😅 i've only been on this site 10 years lmao
@wizardarchetypes @herpsandbirds @brattylikestoeat @tearsofrefugees @milf--adjacent
@vampiricvenus @mostly-funnytwittertweets @sweatermuppet @mostlysignssomeportents @probablyasocialecologist
@timequangle @repotting @robertreich @antifainternational @dlxxv-vetted-donations
#how to help#abdalsalam1990#i think i've just never tried to tag more than 5 ppl before now on here somehow in the 10 years i've been on here
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You're Going Into Orbit
#I wrote this out in the tags of a post ages ago#And found it again today when I was looking through old posts. And the mental image was just as good the second time around#I might make some more silly doodles referencing the Garfielf video at some point#Aizawa is only pretending to care so he doesn't get in trouble with Nezu#'Yes I tried to stop him.... no yeah I just couldn't reason with him...'#Mic being a menace to his students is one of my favourite headcanons#I guess canon...#its been a while since I actually watched the anime but I remember him being a nuisance to Bakugo as he Should be#bnha#hizashi yamada#present mic#mha#bnha fanart#shota aizawa#eraserhead#(not the movie)#minoru mineta#can you tell i didnt want to draw mineta#i think this is the second time I've drawn Mic kicking Mineta into space but thats because its funny
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˖ . ݁⋆.˚✮ HAPPY BIRTHDAY HOBI! ✮˚.⋆. ݁₊
#btsgif#btsedit#dailybts#userdimple#raplineuser#rjshope#userkelli#usersky#userpat#annietrack#hobi#hoseok#my gifs#tried something simpler for the bday gifs this time idk not the most creative thing i've ever done but i had fun#idk if anyone will appreciate it bc its not the best but its something#happy bday to the light of my life i'd write a whole sappy tag but we'd be here all day#my safety zone and all that is good and holy to me the one person i can always look to for comfort my emergency contatct in my delulu world
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Hee hee hee... it has been finally done
Not the first to be inspired by this fic (and definitely not the last, especially once it continues) by @wakebymoonsleepbysun, but I just had to sketch some of the moments in it
Don't mind the fact that he looks different on every one of these... I was still uh... figuring him out ^^"
I could just envision every scene so clearly, no doubt thanks to the vivid writing!! I was very charmed!! And I love AUs where we get to save him in some way, he (they) deserved so much better. Doey being so small is of course adorable, 10/10 would store him in my shirt pocket and feed him whatever he'd like
Though I saw he'll return to big boy size eventually... ah well
And oh yeah here are the paragraphs these are referencing, in order:
#✏️ rory draws#him wiggling his little leggies........ that was the part that made me go “I HAVE TO draw fanart of this”#well that one in particular didn't turn out how I wanted#but nonetheless I tried :")#figured I should show all these here anyway since they might not be up to my standards but they still could make someone smile#doey the doughman#poppy playtime#poppy playtime x reader#poppy playtime & reader#<<< the tag I would preferably use if it were even half as popular as the other one#it should be tbh#I've been dwelling around in the x reader tag. y'all really love that Doctor#he's disgusting as a person but I can understand the appeal#how much you can love a good voice#...looks at all my Michael Kovach blorbos. yeah. yeah I getcha
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it's that time of year again...
#persona 3#minato arisato#makoto yuki#lizzy does art#hello tumblr dot com!!! i forgor to log in here. again :beh:#one of these days i'll remember to queue the art that i've been drawing in the past 3-6 months i've been logged out of here haha#but for now have this minato i drew for march 5th!!! <3#i was originally planning on skipping march 5th this year cause i have a lot going on but.#big longing for minato hit me in the head and boom. drew him#i've been taking a class on color and light recently! so i tried to use some techniques from that here...#p3's messages are so very meaningful to me so i hope the colors and warmth can get that across!!!#have a lovely day everyone!!! if you want to keep up to date with me im on the butterfly site... (bsky)#but i do miss the structure of tags and archives on tumblr so i will still be here just a lot more sporadically compared to before 👍
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hey there!! i'd been checking this blog for a while, and I really wanted to say you're a great source of inspiration haha! I really love your dog characters and your lore! The amount of research and dedication is really amazing!! about ludovica's gf, do you mind if I come in with my vision as well? I think she'd be a really fluffy dog, maybe with curly hair. so my mind went to the portuguese water dog; but then i thought of two versions: long hair and short hair. so i drew both (tried my best to make her look like a lady and not a grandpa haha)
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#I'm so sorry this ask is almost a year old at this point and I'm only now responding to it auh#but I keep thinking about this version of the mystery girlfriend habitually I think this is the first headcanon design anyone came up with#I absolutely adore that she's a fluffy curly dog it's such a bold and distinct choice#I don't have any ocs with this specific fur type so it would be a new and interesting challenge trying to get used to drawing her#and I totally get the struggle about the unintentional grandpa look heh it's the same thing with wirehaired dogs#the portuguese water dog is a fitting breed to pick considering the setting imo#I previously tried to make a lagotto romagnolo version of her but the curly face fur was really muddling her expressions#the white eyebrows are a clever move they're pretty and make her face so much more readable than a solid black would#the white streaks on her ears are a wonderful detail too they kind of remind me of frankenstein's bride haha#and I appreciate the fact you drew her in a period accurate dress! the rosy pink goes really nicely with her stark black and white fur#the sketches are so sweet their chemistry comes through so clearly#thank you so much for putting this much thought and effort into her! again I'm sorry I kept you waiting#I truly hope you didn't think I disliked your concept although I wouldn't blame you at all if that's the impression you got#I think I have another ask of yours somewhere in my inbox I'll try to find it#gift art#pouletpourrisoldblog#Ludovica#own characters#I'll come back to give the gf her own tag once I've decided on the name
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posting this with absolutely no context
#am i a cryptid now? i log on like once in a blue moon to post cringe and then leave again#ace attorney#apollo justice#tikki#random stuff#my stuff#ooookay okay okay okay. anyone reading the tags can have a LITTLE context‚ as a treat#so. sitting on my ao3 currently is an unfinished fic with exactly this premise#i want to finish it so bad. it haunts me every day. people leave such nice comments and everything#but i just have no motivation. trust me i've tried#i thought that perhaps drawing it might finally kick my brain back into gear#i'm so sorry readers i'm sorry i WILL finish it i promise it's not abandoned#it was so much fuuuuun#tikki are you seeing this. cringefail author who keeps playing video games instead of writing lmao#anyway goodbye friends i am gone again. logging off once more
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Does anyone have any recs for reputable orgs for Jewish solidarity for Palestine?
#I've tried to scroll through stuff I've reblogged#but I have not had a consistent tagging system for everthing that's happened since october#and tbh the ones I have seen posted about#then the next time I see someone talking about them its to talk about how they're ~~~~not valid~~ bc whatever#I just need a starting point#until the next time I can talk to the IRL peeps in the community who I trust to be good starting points#my posts
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ITS ETHO DAY YIPPEE!!!! etho day!!!!! (redstone break)
#my friend and i recently had a conversation#about drawings which use lineart as a crutch#my friend said using shapes to portray ideas rather than lines is important#i've been thinking about that and so i tried out coloring lineless#lots fun highly recommend#but yeah experimental piece#would have more etho but alas this is barely on time and i draw etho plenty he'll be ok#etho#art#fanart#digital art#mcyt#digital drawing#hermitcraft#ethoslab#hermitcraft fanart#hermitaday#etho tag#ethos lab#ath art
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2024 art summary! it sure has been a year
#ever makes art#i bsky tweeted a bit but it feels weird talking there still so ill do my usual rambling into tags here :)c#i burned out super bad in the middle of this year for months where it felt like i couldnt draw anything good no matter how hard i tried#and the harder i tried the worst it felt - to the degree that i legitimately thought i wasnt going to be able to draw anything again#which sounds SO dramatic i know i know. but feelings arent always rational!!! and so many others things were going wrong at the same time#so it was strange putting together this year's art summary and realizing Huh. i did still have paintings to put in every space#that fear/anxiety spiral seems even sillier and more meaningless now that i have distance and proof of how irrational it was...#...but in reflection i'd like to think of it as proof that even when you feel at your worse it's worth it to keep trying...!!#after the Black Hole of Nothing i've been working every day on never ending doujin and xv anthology and orv sketchzine and merch#i can't say that i feel my artistic skills have like. improved or anything... but the passion i feel for the stories i read and#the stories i want to tell is still there!! and the happiness from getting to put form to those feelings large or small is worth it too#anyway......... lotta words to say tho i haven't posted much anymore and socmed is imploding and the world is dark#thank you very much for staying with me another year. i am - as ever - always grateful
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#im not finishing that sentence i must stop myself#the kid at the back vn#tkatb vn#the kid at the back#tkatb#tkatb fanart#solivan brugmansia#tkatb sol#ok i feel bad posting sketches bc i don't like how i make them but i know that if i don't post this now im never going to do it#also i tried this i've seen about making the nose like a triangle and somehow placed it right at first try .im never doing that again#do i need to tag this with anything if anyone knows or needs letme know i have no idea#he no babygirl that's a whole ass man and i need him crawling in four that's the last thing he can do#i should draw him cute sometime tho i have to make a creature out of him too#i wantto open him#brain do you have anything else to say? no actually im thinking weird stuff rn dont type anything else shut up forever#okback to my enclosure 🍖#also bestie if u see this i didn't make this bc of what we talked about i swear i just got possessed .worst timing of history#para cuandooooo para cuando para cuando para cuando para cuando come to the band
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Adoration 🧡💙
Pose based on Mac Conner's The Other Father (1949).
16/3/2025
#st art#art#st digital art#fire emblem#fe3h#few3h#fe leonie#fe marianne#leomari#finally finally the few3h leomari art I've been wanting to draw since their new designs were first revealed#ty leomari you've been so patient with me#tag urself I'm the stripey pillow#also I tried really hard to figure out how Marianne's dress works underneath the cape cause I wanted to dress them down a bit#couldn't find much so I just made something up teehee
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Boisterous
Summary: Arthur takes you to The Loft. Pairing: Arthur Morgan x Female!Reader Word Count: 2,095 Warnings: 18+ MDNI Tags: rough sex, unprotected p in v, overstimulation, biting
a/n: I somehow ended up spending literal hours trying to perfect this drawing. I traced a lot and freehanded a lot too, but overall, I'm happy with the final product. TYSM for taking the time to read, like, reply, and reblog; I appreciate every interaction!
Boisterous: behavior that is loud, energetic, and often unruly. It describes a person or situation that is full of noisy enthusiasm.
When Arthur found "The Loft" two nights ago, he was grateful to sleep in a bed surrounded by four sturdy walls. The accommodation would've been perfect, but you were missing from it all. Lewd images of your past escapades together infiltrated his mind as he tried to sleep, and he made his best efforts to push them aside. Your pretty face lit up his brain, and he wrapped his hand around his cock, trying his best to imitate the ecstasy only you could make him feel. No grip was as delectable as yours, though, and despite a quick release, he was more pent-up than ever. He needed you there with him and planned to sweep you up and bring you back as soon as the sun rose.
The cowboy's sonorous voice roused you from your dreams about him, the early morning sun casting a golden glow on his face as he leaned over you. His beard had grown since the few days you'd last seen him.
"Get dressed. M'taking you somewhere."
Without a second thought, you joined him on the back of his horse within the hour. Arthur spared the details of this urgent impromptu trip, keeping you in suspense for the duration of the ride.
In a few hours, you'd passed through Valentine, went by Fort Wallace, and climbed up into the mountains of the Grizzlies East. As you rode on, the clouds grew thick and gray, and the smell of petrichor filled your nostrils. Arthur caressed a hand you had wrapped around his waist, reassuring you.
"Almost there."
But you weren't close enough; the atmosphere released a torrential downpour in the last fifteen minutes of your journey, leaving you drenched. A little after noon, you reached a towering outpost that Arthur coined, The Loft. Arthur ushered you inside, futilely shielding you from the rain and promising the heat of a fireplace as he closed the door behind you.
While you stood, rubbing your arms for warmth, Arthur checked for signs of other people, climbing a ladder and peaking over the top for a second before sliding down.
You two were all alone, finally.
When he got a good look at you, he realized just how soaked you were, the layers of your clothes sticking to you and showing every curve of your body. Arthur swallowed, mouth salivating from the view of your hard nipples peeking through your blouse.
All the blood left his head and traveled south, damn near making him dizzy. Maybe he should've been embarrassed, but he was just a man, and you were the most alluring thing ever.
Two large steps were all it took to get to you. One hand found the back of your head, and the other rested on your hip as he drew your lips to his, practically swallowing you in a scalding kiss.
You could feel the groan rumbling in his chest, and you giggled against his lips. The noise crescendoed as his lips separated from yours to find your jaw and neck. He rested his forehead on your shoulder, inhaling your scent while the hand on the back of your head traveled to the small of your back.
"Mmm," he hummed, eyes nearly rolling to the back of his head. "I missed y'so much."
And he had you all alone, truly alone, for the first time in your relationship. He'd been waiting to make love to you the way he really wanted. Your previous rendezvous were hushed, whispered, and sneaky, your moans muffled by Arthur's lips or hand. Even when he whisked you away to a hotel, he was keenly aware of everybody else around who could hear the two of you. Turning you into a whimpering mess filled him with fervent pride, but he wanted those parts of you, especially the sounds you made, all to himself.
The thought of finally hearing all those pretty little noises at full volume was enough to rile him up, and his hand groped your breast, kneading with a force he hadn't used on you before. You shivered against him; some of it was from your arousal, but the other part was the cold.
"The fire, Arthur," you said, shoving him off playfully. Grunting, he tore away from you, grateful for a log near the stove.
While his back was turned, you peeled the wet clothes off your body and dropped your blouse on the floor. Arthur spun back around right as you stepped out of your skirt, leaving you clad in your bloomers and nothing else. His breath hitched in his throat as if it were the first time your body had been bestowed upon him.
"Straight outta my dreams," he declared, his blue eyes shining with pure avidity. And just like that, Arthur strode across the room, dragging a chair with him and putting it against the door nob, just in case. You were back in his arms in an instant, his kisses emphasized with unadulterated sounds of pleasure. A rough hand slid into the waistband of your bloomers and grabbed a fistful of your ass, squeezing, letting go, and repeating.
You sigh breathlessly as he feels you up, leaning into his touch. Then without warning, he tastes you hungrily, tongue fucking your mouth.
His chest vibrates with titillation again, and you're hoisted up into his arms just a beat later, his hands cupping your rear. You squeal, wrapping your legs around his waist and holding on tight as he carries you across the room and dumps you on blue cotton blankets. Breathing heavily, you watch under eyes saturated with desire as he promptly removes his own damp clothes.
You were just as taken aback by his body as he was with yours. Brown curls adorned his chest and stomach and gathered in a carnal wreath around his manhood. Touching him was like running your hands over a textured map: his scars, old and new, like rivers and valleys, while his muscles, firm and hot, were mountains and volcanoes. You could spend eternity exploring that map. Arthur would never get used to you ogling him in such a way, but now your hungry eyes lured him to you.
He climbed on top of you, pinning you under his weight. Usually, he'd ask if you were okay, but you answered the question before he'd even asked by tangling your legs around his waist and crossing your ankles to bring him closer.
His hard-on brushed against your leg, making him shudder. You helped him remove the last garment of clothes between the two of you, lifting your hips to help him pull the bloomers down your legs and off your feet.
Arthur normally took his time meticulously exploring you, leaving kisses in his wake, but damn it, the thought of the sweet grip of your pussy had been on his mind for days, and he needed it now.
His forehead leaned against yours, and he clutched your jaw, holding your face still to gawk at it. If someone saw him this way, they'd think he'd just completed a full sprint, every exhale coming out in a loud pant. Adrenaline coursed through his veins, turning him animalistic. He couldn't wait any longer.
The gunslinger dipped his head to look between you, a guttural utterance escaping him as you spread your legs, exposing your needy cunt. He held his cock, nearly discolored from being so hard, and rubbed it up and down your center, coating himself in your juices.
"Need you, woman," he bellows. The bass in his voice sends goosebumps spreading down your arms, and you nod, mouth agape, eyes staring into his. His jaw also hinges as he watches himself disappear inside you. Once wholly sheathed, he moans long and loud, a stark contrast to his regular subduedness.
You'd never seen him like this, so desperate and uninhibited. Your body responds to the unexpected but welcomed change, your pussy clenching around him, making both of you jolt. Holding himself up on his forearms, he rocks his hips into you at a steady pace, leaning down to kiss your neck.
Shy and coy Arthur had left the building, replaced by wolfish Arthur, willing to howl and snarl for what he wanted. And in the moment, he wanted to brand you with his mouth. Bruising you was defacing a masterpiece, but it was a crime he was happy to commit. He was an outlaw, after all. He nipped at your neck with his teeth, leaving a mark before moving on to another spot to do the same.
You cried out, the first orgasm of the night building within you. He knew your body well and adjusted to give you what you needed, straightening his back, digging his thumbs into your ribs, and pistoning in and out, his hand going to rub your clit. Head tipped back, he moaned, no, roared, with every thrust.
You knew this was rare: Arthur Morgan losing complete control of himself. He was lost in you, lost in your wetness, lost in your tightness, and lost in those sounds. His head snapped down, and he stared right through you, eyes wild.
"Let me hear you," he demanded, slowing his strokes to get your attention. Head spinning, you gasped, too cock drunk to pay attention to what he was saying.
Grumbling, he pulled out of you to switch positions, now standing on the side of the bed. He guided you back to him, aligning your backside with his crotch. He hugged you to his chest, your back pressed into him. Your hands instantly went to his forearm, holding onto him as he practically held you in the air.
"I said let me hear you," he growled in your ear, accenting each word of his demand with an electrifying pulse of his hips. You arched your back into him, his name coming off your lips like thunder.
"That's it, darlin’."
Perverse sounds of wet skin slapping together and boisterous cries filled the cabin.
You were starting to see stars, your vision blurring as you focused on the pressure building in your insides, wanting so desperately for it to boil over. Your toes dug into the buckskin rug at your feet, trying to keep the rest of your body upright.
Arthur was a machine, pounding into you with the goal of bringing both of you to the edge. He didn't relent—didn't show any mercy for the mess you'd become under him. It was overstimulating in the best way possible.
You just needed a second, just one, to get your barrings. Attempting to scoot forward for that break was futile. Arthur moved with you, his length plunging deeper than ever.
"C'mere," he growled as his cock grazed against that sweet spot in the depths of your core, making you holler out and lose the little balance you had left. It didn't matter, though; he held you taught against him, pinning your body between him and the bed. Keeping one arm wrapped around you, the other touched you right where you craved.
"Now," he groaned into your ear, fingers circling your clit antagonizingly slow. A chuckle exited him as you melted to his touch. "Want you to come undone right here. Can you do that for me?"
Droplets of sweat fell from his head onto your back, and you moaned out, "Y-yes, Arthur."
You didn't take long then; a wave of warmth crashed over you as your velvet walls contracted around him, making the man curse into the now-hot cabin air. His hips kept their steady rhythm as you came, Arthur chasing his own climax now.
"Good girl, good girl, good girl," He moaned with every thrust as you clenched around him. He folded himself in half, once again putting his full weight on you, his heart pounding against your back like a drum. More erratic now, his rhythm lost its steady cadence as his balls tightened, his orgasm coursing through his veins.
He pulled out of you, one hand still gripping your side as the other one pumped furiously at his cock. Moaning, whimpering, and whining, Arthur threw his head back as hot spurts of his lust splattered across your back.
Hand falling from your hip, his breath slowed as clarity flowed back into his eyes. Using his discarded bandana, he wiped his sins away from your back before gently rolling you over. He scratched the back of his neck, a sly grin making home on his face as he watched you splayed out and spent. Arthur had gotten everything he'd ever wanted: a bed, four walls, and you.
#zae tries not to say “the gunslinger” challenge: failed#all banners journal entires and photos taken/made by me#red dead redemption 2#rdr2#arthur morgan#rdr2 community#rdr2 arthur#rdr2 photography#read dead redemption 2 photography#arthur morgan fic#arthur morgan smut#arthur morgan x female reader#arthur morgan x you#arthur morgan x reader#arthur morgan fanfiction#I think I've been doing tags wrong until today#oops.#zaefic#amje
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I went on a HUGE wiki archival spree for the past 10 hours and I found two of my personal holy grail "lost flag media posts" and I feel like I just have to share these because IM SO EXCITED !!


Here are the original posts for these flags! The first one and the second one.
To my surprise these are NOT transfem / transmasc general flags. These are actually Trans girl / Trans guy flags! Both were made by the same anonymous user and submitted to pride-flags-for-us / pride-flags on the same date ( you can see this via Wayback Machine )
The meanings are also pretty close to what everyone assumed they were, with the outerstripe referencing assignment / assumption at birth and the inside stripes representing true identity. it's pretty cool to know their anniversary / birthday though! ( April 23rd, 2015 )
#iso.bug#i'm actually vibrating rn but if you want to see more older flags i'd recommend browsing my horde @/centlpede !! lots of them recently#also i got these through trawling wayback and also going through the archives of older blogs which were active in 2014/2015#transmasc#transfem#trans guy#trans girl#transmasc flag#transfem flag#mogai community#liom community#mogai friendly#liom friendly#mogai#liom#visibility tags because i've known multiple people who've tried to hunt these down over the years and i don't want them to get lost twice
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