#I'm a book worm
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When you're on the last book of a series & you're getting closer & closer to the end
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Happy TEN YEARS to thebookferret tumblr!
#thebookferret#books#booklr#book worm#book nerd#book pets#book addict#book photography#bibliophile#ferret#ferrets of tumblr#pets of tumblr#wasabi#ten years of blogging#ten years of photographs#wasabi is the third book ferret#quigley was the first#diggle was the second#angel ferret#i'm so grateful for all this account has brought me#internet friends#relationships with publishing houses#years of memories captured#and shared with so many people#thanks for hanging out in this space with me#wether its been a week or ten years
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Right! Its starfall skin time! I was thinking of doing a more arcane version of Book Worm Jr because it's such a fun idea :] Trying to figure out some good ways to differentiate them from each other, maybe no glasses, but I still want something up one their little head. Hmmmmm
#book worm jr is one of my favorite skins so of course I'm going back to it for insperation#flight rising#fr
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It's interesting to think about Master and Commander because it was clearly meant to work as a standalone book, which gives it a lot of curious little features when you compare it to later books, but none more than the fact that James Dillon was literally like a third main character there, and he brings out very specific dynamics with Jack and Stephen which none of the later books can ever quite get at. Like I genuinely believe that if there had not been a series, Dillon would have been a central character to all of our discussions, but as it is he's sort of faded into obscurity. Which is a shame, because he's really interesting, and one of the aspects of that book which is so fascinating is him and Stephen dealing with the fallout of the failed Irish Rebellion—the where-do-we-go-from-here, the fact that both of them are so completely politically incompatable in all other ways and now there's nothing to unite them, Stephen's idealism crashing into semi-ambivalence versus Dillon's fierce and continued belief (which is an interesting role reversal given their political stances otherwise), the weird camaraderie/animosity that exists between them, and so on—and I think that we never really get anyone who forces Stephen to be that politically nuanced again. Like I think Patrick O'Brian tries to nuance him but there's no character that ever really puts him through his paces in the same way, and honestly every time I think about that I get a bit sad.
#or perhaps i have spent too much time thinking about this book and the character dynamics therein#but idk man. their dynamic fascinates me there's so much there#aubreyad#perce rambles#also the brutal historical dramatic irony of the fact that we the readers know that ireland won't be free for another hundred years#but that's a whole nother can of worms which we don't have time to get into rn#this was sitting in the drafts but it's good so i'm posting it#The Creative Endeavor and other aubreyad nonsense
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something i haven't seen discussed in my limited viewing of book-fandom spaces: cahir's attitude towards women and what it says about nilfgaardian attitudes towards women, especially women's health/reproductive health.
there's a throwaway line in baptism of fire where the hansa is discussing regis' danger to them as a vampire, where regis mentions that some cultures make their women isolate during menstruation, and cahir says "only savages" or something similar (it might be "barbarians", i listen to the audiobooks so i have a hard time finding exact wording). there's also the probably more well-known statement that he makes later on in the book when the men are discussing milva's pregnancy and he alludes to women having the absolute/final decision regarding whether to continue a pregnancy or pursue an abortion in his culture.
idk i just think it's neat. and he's an early-twenties soldier, so logically he should be pretty far removed from discussions of that nature - the fact that he's willing and able to make comments like that indicates to me that southern cultures speak pretty freely about menstruation, pregnancy, etc., and of course he mentions his sisters in relation to the comment about a woman's right to choose, but his remark about only savages making their women isolate themselves struck me as really interesting - like at best you would expect a man his age and of his status to just not care or pay attention or more likely to think it's disgusting - but he specifically goes out of his way to indicate his disapproval of women being forced to isolate for something natural and he goes out of his way to express that where he's from, women make their own reproductive choices. i am probably thinking about this more than sapkowski did but daddy i love him.
#text#wiedźmin#the witcher books#cahir mawr dyffryn aep ceallach#idk what the book tag is on tumblr. pardon me i don't really go here#anyway cahir has joined like 3 other characters ever in Men I Have Severe Fucking Brain Worms About and i have. Thoughts#i'm going to post a like 35k geralt/cahir thing on ao3 that literally no one is going to read because there are like SIX WORKS in that tag
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oh yes I’m so glad you’re working in jason v bruce conflict in LaH, LaW… makes the whole thing so much more interesting. I also hope “Mother Grayson” makes an appearance in the sequel:)
Part of why the sequel is so slow-going, honestly, is that Jason really took it over in a way I didn't anticipate. One of the main things that got me to write Like a Hinge in the first place was that I was really interested in how dynamics changed if I took away Tim's main drive to enter the story - "I have to save Batman" - and replaced it with something he's arguably terrible at - "I have to save myself."
That kind of canon preservation-plus-twisting is what's interesting me in the sequel too, just with Jason. Jason didn't die here, but those tensions with Bruce from pre-Ethiopia (coughcoughGarzonascoughcough) still happened. So how can I play in this sandbox I'm in, but still ask the great ethical questions that Red Hood and Batman represent. How can I tease out those themes and vibes in a way that fits in this verse: How far is too far? Where do vigilantes draw the line, if they draw it at all?
Anyway.
The other, less pretentious answer is that Tim Drake is a Batman fan third, a Robin fan second, and a Dick Grayson fan before all things. So Jason, who has spent the summer as the Cool Older Brother(tm), suddenly has to deal with not being the default favorite now that Dick's home. Dick has to find a spot to fit when his family all trauma-bonded with the weird neighbor kid while he was gone. Meanwhile Tim finally has enough energy to go full gremlin and cause problems on purpose.
ALL THIS TO SAY. While Jason and Bruce and the both of them finding their footing are a big part, the heart of the sequel will 100% about these three dinguses figuring out how to be brothers. There is so much Mother Grayson. Don't even worry about it.
#mail#anonymous#fic stuff#ONE DAY#I'm hoping to have a draft of my original book done by october-ish#and so long as the brain worms don't turn against me#the plan is to try and churn through sequel#Batfam#Batman#Jason Todd#Dick Grayson#Bruce Wayne#Tim Drake
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Such a nice morning with the girls!
#such a good call booking it back#we are enjoying a nice sunday morning full of tasks and comforts#information withheld from the poll: It was raining and the campers across the way had a loose dog who kept wandering over#I was pretty set on heading home but felt a little dramatic#our rally runs didn't feel good#we still Q'd#but I had to ask for pig's attention way to much and it felt extra bad because people now know who we are#it absolutely should not matter#but it's a little worm in my brain now#and I really really don't want to be that person but I was not loving the venue#10/10 a training issue but I honestly don't want to work on that specific thing#I'm stressed navigating a show and trialing my own dog#having to physically navigate one 10ft wide lane that feeds into 6 active rings is a hassle just as a person#and it's an extra hassle with a dog#the waiting area for the rally ring was squished between the ring and benching#it was also the same waiting area for the obedience ring so 12/10 super crowded#pichael tried so much for me and I simply was not there to support her#turnpike#rory borealis
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Down, down, down by the river...
A stunning commission of Skaro & Xa'rok (inspired by the EA dream lover scenes) from @pickled0ctopus
#look at my babies!!!!#ugh this is so gorgeous. the lighting the colors the expressions the tenderness#bg3 tav#githyanki tav#githzerai tav#my tavs#tav: skaro#tav: xa'rok#literally looks like it could be story book artwork or art from the lorebooks#so so good I'm obsessed with this thank you so muvh#scheduling this post so it's visible at a better time#not my art#commissions#I still need a ship name for these two#un-tadpoled xa'rok for once. as I'm still in their early game story in their joint save#and I suspect they spent a lot of time together pre-xa'rok encountering the astral tadpole in their canon#*in their joint canon#make no mistake though: xa'rok's brain is still full of worms
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Worm Arc 23 thoughts:
So much happened in so few chapters, how do I even break this down?!?
First off, Colin had better stop fucking bonding with my daughter! And apologizing and making amends for past wrongs! I'm a huge fan of redemption arcs and second chances and that is being used against me! JUST LET ME HATE THIS MAN!!!!!!
My bug daughter is in prison but that's almost like, a minor side thing? It barely matters right now except that it gives some background structure. Compared to everything else the prison bit is just . . . a thing.
I'm in tears over bug horse. I'm bawling. I may never recover. RIP Atlas, you were the best of us.
TAYLOR GOES TO THERAPY!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS EVERYTHING I EVER WANTED!!!!!!
I love Jessica so much! She does such a good job. I want to bake her cookies as thanks but I'm not sure if that would trigger some type of conflict of interest.
Fucking Glenn. I want to hate him and love him all at the same time.
Is he an artist? Absolutely! He has a vision and it is beautiful.
But also if it comes down to "letting the world end or compromising said vision" he might be the kind of person who would watch the world burn with a tear running down his cheek, because at least it was beautiful.
Look I get it. My daughter is terrifying. But that isn't because bugs are scary. It's cause my daughter is terrifying. Making her use butterflies just means a bunch of people are gonna start having butterfly phobias.
Like come on, Clockblocker gets to break fundamental forces of the universe and cause people to question their very existence!
Do not try to tell me that someone getting time frozen and just . . . skipping a chunk of time because their mind is not part of the time stream for a few minutes would not provoke some deep thoughts of existential dread! Sure not in everyone, but not everyone is scared of bugs either! I just think it's very unfair.
The Adepts are fun. Sure powers aren't "magic" but might as well have fun with the idea! Besides it seems to be working and if I had powers I'd absolutely love to lean into a magical focus idea.
I am quite upset about the fact that during the whole Thirteenth Hour thing Weaver didn't get to shove bugs down Clockblocker's throat to save him. It would have been so poetic. Saving the day by shoving bugs down throats was still super amazing, I just wanted it to be Clockblocker.
It was the most extreme level of active awareness and minor "control" while being disabled that we've seen from Taylor so far though! Really curious to get more into that, the nature of passengers/shards, and all those things. I have so many thoughts, but they're all just speculation right now (I don't think writing 75 pages of theories that all end up being wrong is really gonna be very helpful).
“If anyone asks, you kicked their asses with butterflies.” Clockblocker gets it!
It was really cool to get more into different vibes of the world with the Vegas section! I love me some thinkers and strangers.
I'm very glad The Number Man used a sniper rifle. I would have been a little disappointed if he didn't after getting into his head in his interlude - it is just the perfect weapon for him. Motherfucker over here just bouncing bullets.
Finally got to see more Bambina after the little bit in arc 8. Her power is wild, I love it! Also Bambina's mom just shot right into the top contenders for "worst parent in Worm". Like, WTF lady.
August Prince is wild. Sucks when the most effective use of your power is "human shield" though.
Considering she had an interaction with The Number Man and Contessa, Taylor actually came out of it pretty good! Sure they lost the target they were trying to bring in, but I don't know that they really had a chance of keeping Pretender. Contessa isn't easy to stop.
The only problem I have with the Las Vegas Wards actions is hiring Bambina to break Pretender free. Otherwise ya, fucking ditch the Protectorate. Given the information they have it makes sense.
TAYLOR HAS FAN MAIL!!!!!!!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Grue's letter was way to heartfelt. Tattletale clearly wrote most of it.
Like come on: "I could hit you, hug you, yell at you and hold onto you for hours all at the same time. It’s fitting that I want to kiss you and throttle you at the same time because that’s what you were to me for a long time. You drive me crazy and I can never understand what’s going through your head." This is totally Tattletale! She couldn't flirt with Taylor in her own letter, she had to be sneaky about it!
"You’re an idiot. I want you to know that. You’re an idiot, Skitter. You’re brilliant and reckless and I’m betting it makes sense to you to do this but you’re an idiot." - also Tattletale.
LOOK I'M GONNA MAKE THIS SHIT GAY AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!!!!!!
Imp's letter might be my favorite.
Tattletale's actual letter ends with "See you there, hun?" Just. So fucking gay. Sorry I don't make the rules.
Speaking of gay, Rachel's letter!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wolfspider wolfspider wolfspider!
Like I mean come on
"Being around you wasn’t simple or quiet but things made more sense. Your minion with dark hair said we need to be around people but I’m around people and still feel somethings missing." GAY
"Going to take puppies to your place again soon. Show the kids to them. Might help." SO GAY
"You have plan, okay. But if your plan means you’re thinking about fighting us you should know I am getting very good at hunting and skinning things." HOLY SHIT IT'S THE MOST LESBIAN THING EVER
"We both stay alive. Try hard." TOP-TIER GAY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
GGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY
AND THE SCENE WITH THE CHILDREN!!! AND THE BUTTERFLIES! AND THE DICE!!!!!!!!!!!
dies of joy
Seriously, 23.4 is the most beautiful chapter in Worm so far and it'll be very hard for it to be outdone.
I could talk about just that chapter for pages. It was perfect in every way. Even if I knew it had to end with Behemoth pretty early on. There was too much hope in that chapter for it to end any other way.
But in the middle of all that downward "oh fuck it's Behemoth" stuff we got an Undersiders reunion! With so much gay!
Like - “But you guys mean a lot to me. I’m sorry I didn’t say it before, but I couldn’t without letting on that something was going on. You’re my family, in a way. As lame as it might be, I love you guys.” My head turned from Grue to Rachel to Tattletale as I said it.
SO FUCKING GAY
She starts at Grue sure but ends with Rachel and Lisa when saying "I love you". Certified gay.
So gay that even Imp agrees! Though I've been doing the long drawn out “Gaaaaaaayyyyyyy” since like arc 2. So Imp is a bit behind the curve here.
TAYLOR WANTS TO GO ON A DOG PARK DATE WITH RACHEL! IT'S THE MOST LESBIAN DATE POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
Weaver's new flight suit is pretty neat. Dragon is a pretty good big sister.
Cody Interlude thoughts:
THIS motherfucker! I was waiting for him to show up again.
I am so mad. I'm so fucking mad.
Cody is the worst. He's pathetic and dumb.
And Accord just has to go and get killed by him in the dumbest way! GOD DAMMIT ACCORD I SIMPED FOR YOU SO HARD!!! AND THEN YOU DIE TO CODY! OF ALL PEOPLE! YOU CAN'T BE COOL IF YOU DIE TO CODY!
Chevy too! I thought he was cool and all, but he had to die to Cody. God. The worst.
ALSO MY BABY GIRL HE TRIED TO HURT MY BABY! THE ONE WHO ISN'T MY DAUGHTER!
SOMEBODY HELP TATTLETALE!
I did like seeing more of the mechanics of the Yàngbǎn after getting hints about how they work in the Lung interlude.
The power sharing plus the power amplification is a pretty broken combo tbh. Feels like there is some pretty neat stuff that could be accomplished with that.
Fuck this man though. Simmy just had to whisper to him and just dove right in. Cody can't even conceptualize what fighting back means, that would require him to grow as a person in literally any way.
Sucks for the Behemoth fight though. I guess my daughters are going to have to save the day. Again.
#Worm#Worm Web Serial#Parahumans#Cairavende reads Worm#Weaver#Taylor Hebert#Dragon#Wolfspider#Chatterbug#Smugbug#I'm excited to see what super cool shit Taylor manages to do during the Behemoth fight.#And if we're lucky Cody will get stepped on#I'm happy the Chicago Wards want Weaver. I like Tecton. If she is gonna be a Ward they're the best option.#And my robot daughter can talk again! At least a tiny bit. I'm so proud of her!#I'm kinda surprised Foil wasn't already taken for cape names TBH#I'd assume at this point most short words like that would be unavailable. Like trying to make a tumblr account in 2024.#Fucking Colin#Seriously though I'm so mad at roboman over here!#He was so easy and fun to hate but he keeps actually trying to be better and I just want to hate him!#But noooooooo. Frank Miller's Armsmaster had to go and try to make amends!#Sure he still messes up a bunch so I can hang on to that for now#But he keeps improving!#I see the trajectory of his character arc. It's beautiful and I'm SO FUCKING MAD!#. . . I'm being trolled in real time by a 13 year old book. 5/5 stars.
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I could have gone my whole life without knowing that apparently a large portion of the fandom hates Mabel Pines. And god I wish I did.
But that's fandom misogyny for you.
Any way it's lookign like a Gravity Falls' Fall so sign me up!
#which is even funnier cause I think I watched the “Mabel is terrible” part 2 video years ago but then completely forgot about#it cause honetsly felt like a cinema sins video just weirdly nitpicky and intent on misunderstanding the context and the character#But yeah with this new book might get back into gravity falls again#Should I read the book and then rewatch or rewatch then read the book? what order is the most cohesive#Last time I rewatched I didnt watch the finale cause I am a maniac and I watched it all on my phone because I was a laptop denialist#but this time I'm going to do it right won't even skip the pilot or nothing no matter how much the worms rebel#gravity falls#mabel pines#gravity falls mabel#gf mabel#gf#may mabel pines forgive you all#fandom misogny#fandom#fandom things#fandom hate#alex hirsch#book of bill
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lil gryphon insurrection doodles as i reread these books
#starting out book 6 and it's already making me feel so many emotions about these birds#i'm really loving Nighteyes' perspective chapters and i cant wait to learn more about the starling prides#reading these books also made me realize how much i love Piprik.... fucked up peepaw my beloved#his interactions with Lei are very sweet#mally is also there. worm.#bird books#was that my tag??? hm??
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Victory at Prescott High Book #5
Bernadette: If you can find beauty in decay, then you've just learned what it means to be human.
#I'm a book worm#Victory at Prescott High#Havoc#Books#booklr#books#book quotes#quotes#rh books#RH#reverse harem
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your favorite of my favorites: A Book Poll
okay, i have now officially seen Just Enough open tags to override my vampiric need to be explicitly invited into things, so! here are my (current) Five Favorite Books for y'all to vote on, in order of Publication Date (and incidentally the order in which i read them)
shout out to @e-b-reads and @beardedbookdragon for the recent open tags! i am inflicting this on paying this forward to @asexualbookbird and @alloreli (who i warned), and to @sixofravens-reads (who i did not).
#poll#book polls#favorite books#animorphs#ka applegate#ve schwab#vicious#this is how you lose the time war#Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone#network effect#martha wells#murderbot#leech#hiron ennes#dear ezloved and lizloved: >:D#dear steph: don't feel obligated lol#ABOUT THE BOOKS:#this was the second (2nd) animorphs book i ever read because they had it and no.2 at the used book store on LBI in NJ#but gosh it's just. so funny. and so memorable.#i love them all but this hit a bunch of buttons and i think most fondly of it#VICIOUS WRECKED ME I LOVE IT IT'S A PERFECT BOOK#(vengeful DNI but vicious is just. masterfully executed. holds up so well on a reread)#gosh what a great weaving of timelines and threading of backstory and history#10/10 no notes (except all the notes i took on dissecting the book itself)#gonna be real i'm surprised TIME WAR made the list but. i've reread it a shocking number of times too. AND it's one of the only books in--#--recent memory that licherally Inspired Me To Write My Own Book (affectionate). so on the list it goes#NETWORK EFFECT FUCKS ME UP EVERY TIME ALSO PERFECT AND I LOVE IT AND SO MANY HEART CRIMES#i've stayed up past my bedtime not just reading it for the first time but. rereading it the first AND second times after that. bot and ART<#and then leech wormed into my brain (ahahaha) and i'm SO excited to reread it#it does a ton of cool shit with POV and agency and gothic horror and it's horrifying and fucked up and i love it
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"Rachel is the compatible character that's written in relationships with Taylor the least despite their canon interactions even in fics about Taylor x many girls because she's butch and not conventionally pretty so people are superficial and ignore her" send post like throwing a rock at a crowd
#half joking#but also not really#because this is an actual phenomenon#virtually everyone in the fandom with a brain agrees that they have some of the most chemistry in the book#and their interactions are some of the most romantic#yet they're never fucking written together?#like you can count the number of multichapter wolfspider fics that have been published since Worm started in two hands#(and I have written two of those)#which compared to like smugbug and pillbug is#nothing#like it's nothing#write more wolfspider please#I'm on my knees begging you#parahumans#rachel lindt#taylor hebert
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Fandoms come and go but The Hunger Games is forever
#[long suffering sigh]#amazing how fast whatever i'm doing gets derailed by having a single thg thought#worms so deep into my brain just call me rfk jr#what if i reread all the books again right now#i'm gwen and i approve this message
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Genuine question, not trying to start a fight, why do you get so upset about gods and churches being presented in a negative light in fictional works?
No pbs!
I guess it's a mix of being too common, too forced and having, in general, the cast use common tropish arguments to fight /defeat them.
I rant a lot about this game, but take TS where we have three sort of factions opposing each other, and each are supposed to suck. Who is the faction who never receives any "positive traits" or "pet the dog" moment?
The game force fed us a scene where an Aesfroti soldier - when Aesfrost is depicted as a highly militarised nation with a cult of personality towards their current ruler, that invaded the protag's home and slaughtered several civilians and NPCs in the process - say goodbye to his wife and kids before going to "war" to defend his land against, well, the protags who are invading it to kill their warmongering leader.
As force-fed as this scene was, it, I believe at least, tried to tell us that even the Aesfrosti who pillaged villages and killed their inhabitants are humans, and care about their loved ones, sure it's corny, but it's all about not deshumanising any party.
When we attack Hyzante? Niet, zilch, nothing. No similar scene where random soldiers, or NPCs, worry about what is going on and if they're going to die when their wall has been breached. They just, don't exist in this context.
I think the cherry on the cake is the Golden Route scene, where, apparently, nationalists Aesfrosti decide to turn back against their ultra charismatic leader because, uh, he "lied" when he declared the war and used a false pretense, so the soldiers and people who were butchering babies and invading a city where people were preparing a marriage apparently now have morals and rebel.
There's no similar scene for Hyzante when the cast reveals that the teachings of their Goddess were made up and salt wasn't exclusively given to them by divine intervention, because rock salt exists everywhere. Sure it would be a bit weird and forced that people thinking they're chosen ones and looking down on everyone else suddenly, hm, don't break down when their entire system of belief is shattered, but hey, if the Aesfrostian Gregor can have morals after washing his hands of all this Glenbrookian blood, why shouldn't religious npc #55 not make the same heel face turn?
And then, we have the slavery/human experimentation plot - in general, when TS tries to give nuance, they more or less explain/justify why something that "sucks" is done, it's basically Silvio's character.
Aesfrost' Gustadolph manages to push his "freedom" mentality because his land is a harsh place where people are desperate to survive, salt smuggling is reprehensible, but it's the only way to give some to the ones who cannot afford it. Of course is everyone is free, no one is because, as Gustadolph puts it, they're basically free to die for his ambitions.
Hyzante? Follows a racist creed where Rozellians have to pay for some great sin, and are slaved away in a lake to recover salt until they die. It's, later, justified by Hyzante wanting to keep its salt monopoly else they don't have anything, and wanting to curb down the Rozelle people because they know about the exitence of rock salt (and I guess getting free workers to harvest salt from the lake + having state enemies make his own population docile/not willing to rebel ?).
And then, we have the human experimentations, that are just done for, uhh, Idore's lol. When Hyzante is known for its "advanced medicine" and we could have had the usual dilemna of, idk, having those humans experimentations used to develop this medicine that is reknown in the world (idk, sacrificing a Rozellian to save someone else's life?) - it's not the angle the devs picked. Rozellians are sacrificed to power up an idol, Idore wants to control the world through his idol and soft power (compared to Gustadolph's hard power) and manipulates his people (just like Gustadolph) to do so.
The two are very similar, but who is the final boss? Complete with a transformation in an eldritch monster? The war-mongering imperialist or the jaded old man who is leading de facto a religion?
Hopefully there's the entire "human experimentations for no other purpose than the lols" to settle them apart.
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I recently watched Dune, and even if I have some issues with the adaptation, the Bene Gesserit isn't portrayed as "comically" evil-er than the Harkonen Empire, I reckon the comparison isn't adequate, because Dune is multi book series when I'm mostly talking about video games.
Symphonia's church of Martel is a font for the Big Bad (tm) to put in motion his nefarious plans, and yet, through the game, we see how random clergymen use their, uh, religious buildings to help people around. Ultimately Martel herself is reincarnated through plot device and tells the big bad to stop being an ass and the story is less about "church and gods evil" but "big bad distorts Martel/church's teachings and role for his plans because he has a tragic backstory"
(but then Symphonia ends with the biggest whitewashing from every Tales I've played for its big bad so I'll stop talking about it because otherwise I'm going to be salty).
Abyss' church is more or less the same thing - the Church is supposed to help people deal with the fact their verse has "predestination stones" where the future is already written, and in the course of the game, we see how it has several factions and one opposes the group (who has the pope as a NPC!) - but it's not a story about "gods bad church BaD".
I remember playing Suikoden Tierkreis a long time ago, and while the game seemed to go through familiar "church bad gods bad" route and we end with defeating a god-like entity... I pretty much loved the twist that, in a game that relied on alternate dimensions/universe, the god-like entity was actually the protag if he made different choices!
In those games, if you fight a religious body and someone pretending to be a God or what not - it's not because people fight against an eldritch creature who wants world domination and to erase puny insects, or is the reason why everything goes wrong, but because, at the end, the conflict/fight is ultimately caused by someone, generally a human or at least a non "god like" entity, wanting to destroy the world.
I don't remember if FE was my first JRPG series or not, but I always liked the idea that if the world is doomed in those games and the heroes must prevent said doom, it's not because a god-like being wants to destroy the world, but because people, humans/randoms are the most shitty ones out there.
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As for the "tropes" often used to deride fictional churchs and religious people, well, I will again point to TS - which did a splendid job in the Benedict Route where you smash Hyzante after allying with Aesfrost.
There's one battle where out protags diss Hyzantese because they worship a goddess and have no free will, listening to Her teachings and Her says (the traditional "religious people have no free will and listen to their churches who tell them how to think!") - which is immediately countered by one of those Hyzantese characters asking Serenor if he's not the same, but instead of blindly listening to a Goddess, blindly follows Benedict. And it ends with the final chapter title referencing automatons/puppets : who is that title talking about ? The fake "idol" Idore created, or the fake "king" Benedict created?
Anyways, the usual "religions people have no free will because their church/religion tells them how to think" trope reeks of r/atheism and the double standard - bar in this route of TS, but I guess, in TS itself in the Roland route! - is never called out, blindly following a charismatic leader is okay, as long as charismatic leader isn't religious?
Regardless of my IRL thoughts about religion, usually those tropes are presented as a "gotcha!" when they are... not at all, but the games/books leave it at that and we're supposed to roll with it.
I'd say it's lazy writing or, as we saw in Naruto, a quick way to end a story without having to dwelve in characters and their motivations : "you're a god/alien/other being and you're bad, so let us do what we want!" - end of the story.
Hopefully some fillers and to an extent, Boruto gave her more meat bar being the 11 hour villain we had to defeat quick and who manipulated the previous sad'n'lonely antagonists - but it still felt rich from Naruto, known for his famous "talk no jutsu" and trying to understand people he's fighting against, to drop the ball with Kaguya, calling her pure malice and ending with some "let us live the way we want" to wrap up the plot so he can wrestle with his boyfriend later on.
In the end, we often end up with "religion bad bcs the big bad manipulates people through it", as if those mangas/animes/vg never have other examples of charismatic people not using religion to manipulate their randoms/people or "gods bad they should let humans do what they want" when we've read/seen/played through various, uh, really fucked-up shit humans did - but on their own! and ultimately, but it's more in fandom spaces, with have Projection 101.
TLDR : church/religion/gods are too often used in those works as the ultimate scapegoat to either wrap up a story in a rushed ending or to pretend to have "nuance" but still have a common enemy where all the "nuanced" characters can grow/be whitewashed and side together against that "common enemy".
Just like in all things I guess, I prefer when something isn't painted as purely negative and all of the positive traits are erased because there is a need for a perfect scapegoat - sure, bring out too much "nuance" and writing/designing a game/manga/anime becomes harder because there's no "clear cut" antagonist, and yet, the one who always gets fucked in this scenario is the religious/church side.
Want a generic stock villain who will destroy the world so the heroes have to fight against them? Just create a "religion" in your setting, and have the big bad either hell bent on resurrecting Chtullu to destroy the world because Chtullu BaD, or have them be the most corrupt piece of shit who manipulate everything in the shadows, so the rest of the world, even the ones who slaughter others bcs they feel like they must start a war, can be whitewashed at the end.
I mean, there's a saying about diverting attention from a fire by starting a bigger one near, or a trope of "aliens made them do it" : who cares if Madara started a continental war and targeted a village full of random civilians he swore to protect because he lost the elections? Did y'know he was manipulated by a woman, I mean, an eldritch thing created by a woman, regarded as a God, who ultimately wanted to get out of her fridge to kill everyone?
Roland must get over his hatred for Aesfrost for barging in his kindgom and killing hundred of his people while they were preparing for a wedding, because hey, Idore is evil and plans on ruling the world through his sham religion!
I'll forever be salty at TS for not giving Kamsell the occasion to rise against Idore, or not even have minor NPCs get the same treatment as Sycras suddenly going all "u lied to me gustadolph so i won't listen to u anymore + sad goodbyes to my wife'n'kids".
Extremism of all kinds can lead to wars/tragedy/fucked up shit - Sure I don't want to get my History lessons in video game medium when I play lol, but what I really don't like is how it feels like depicting "they're extremists because they're religious" feels like the default/easy answer : want a bunch of brainwashed people the heroes must fight against and can't talk no justu their way out of this fight/will fight without looking too BaD? Depict those people as "misguided" members of a corrupt church/believers of a religion, no one will givea fig. If they are instead supporters of a charismatic leader who throws them through the meatgrinder to further their goals? Well, there's no automatic loyalty so either you have to show/depict it on screen, else it can be challenged at key points to demonstrate how those people - who follow the charismatic leader - aren't completely "mindlessly listening to their leader" or how their leader "isn't that bad after all".
#idk if it makes sense anon#replies#anon#i'm not tackling the fandom projected takes anon this is another can of worms#I'm not immune to it far from that#Having grown up in a post 2000s world with some people lit being asked how dare they be religious and all#'religion is the only reason why people do those horrible things' dude are you serious? Did you open a book recently?#TS was really mind boggling about the duality between 'regular' imperialism and 'religious' one#and how one faction got way more care than the other to make a clear cut villain#Also blaming everything on Gods/evil cults etc etc imo is often used to remove agency from people X or Y who start shit#That's why I really liked Fe Jugdral#sure we have nutjobs going to say everything BaD happens because of Loptyr#But DiMaggio seducing Aidean? Danan turning Isaach in a giant brothel? Slavery in the Thracian peninsula?#Dragons in this opus are sitting on the sidelines and only itnervening when one of them starts shit#but otherwise? Humans are allowed to be shitty without blaming 'Gods' for behaving like they did#and they receive their due#From the Tales I've played they mostly avoid this general religion BaD#even if iirc it's one of the plot points in Berseria? who would have guessed lol#I guess I'd say I'm not seriously upset whenever a game/manga ends up with 'akshually the religious faction was the big BaD'#it's just the same canned ravioli again and again#but whenever games/manga/anime try to give some grey morality to antagonists#the ones who always are wrecked are the religious/god-like entities#Is there any room for nuance when one faction has no other reason for doing the things they do bar 'for the lols/bcs i was told to?'#fandom woes
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