#I’m not ashamed of tumblr I just know to many haters

[hummus-draws]

“I read somewhere”. But it’s actually just a tumblr post that ate and I had to tell someone without telling them I have tumblr.

[landoom]

(I’m the anon who brought up people not liking Oscar for off track stuff)

Yeah, I agree with all of that, I think. I try really hard to check my biases while also reserving my right to have an opinion. And just to clarify- I absolutely don’t think Oscar is nearly as much of an asshole as some drivers! It’s just his particular brand of PR that irks me… and some other things… anyways, not your problem. lol

I may not like Oscar much, not hate, and I actually feel kinda bad about not liking him, but I’m not out shouting hate against him for unfair reasons.

That’s the thing, right? We don’t have to agree, but it’s not cool to spread hate or wish ill upon someone for being a bit of a dick as a racing driver, on or off.

But to be fair, a lot of blogs are a “what you see is what you get” so we can block each other. And people should be allowed to vent… hmm.

McLaren has handled things poorly (race strategy and PR) in my opinion, and so many fans are vocally toxic that it exacerbates every tiny thing.

Some Hardcore Lando fans (kinda somewhat myself included) are so used to him being attacked for anything and everything he does that we’re super defensive of him, sometimes in unhealthy ways. Lando gets A LOT of hate. Way more than Oscar has. Way more. I always have to give myself a day after a race to let my emotions cool down. Just like some of the drivers have to! 😂😛 But I am very defensive of Lando, sometimes to my own detriment, I get so angry at people. I recognize that.

And McLaren has done exactly nothing to defend him, which I find distasteful.

Anyways, this turned into a tangent. 🤦‍♀️ I am so sorry. Ahhhh

(I’m so glad you didn’t take that ask poorly and it came across how I meant it, I do appreciate that we can have a calm discussion without either of us trying to change the others opinion ❤️)

Once again I agree with mostly everything.

Just the part about being able to block Tumblr means people can vent here... Yes but then they need to tag accordingly.

If you really want to hate on a driver, then tag it. That means realising you're perhaps going over the limit and that your words can be read as disrespectful or hurtful.

Because there is something I really despise in this fandom at the moment and on social media in general: how hate is becoming accepted, seen as normal or even glorified (through likes and views, etc...). It shouldn't! People should feel ashamed of hating or wishing harm to other people, especially ones who they don't even know, that aren't hurting them in any way! You can have an outburst brought out by your passion for F1 and adrenalin and acknowledge (like your doing) that you went over the limit. But some people are creating their whole online persona over being a hater!

Also, as a Lando fan too, I can completely understand the part about Lando being hated for nothing or never doing the "right" thing whatever he does. And I agree it makes us a bit defensive.

But we won't fight hate with hate! Some Lando fans are treating Oscar exactly like they are complaining other people treat Lando! I'm sorry but I can't understand that...

[june-julie]

you know for awhile personally for me when i told others that i chose to give atticus the benefit of the doubt once the allegations came out a year ago since i chose to believe that he did nothing wrong since the 'proof' was just of the young girl and him video chatting texting and dancing at a club it started making me feel ashamed/sad for choosing to like atticus still as a fan cause other people on tumblr and other social sites have just been nothing but awful rude hurtful mean and nasty to me and telling me to go to hell for continuing to be a fan of an actor/musician who they think is a toxic vile manipulator and a disgusting predator groomer/abuser but i know now to not let the haters bring me down especially since the times when he talked to me on social media he was nothing but nice kind and sweet to me

Man I’m not getting over the fact that he messaged you

😭con😭grat😭ulations😭

Okay all jokes aside I’ve seen many other actor and actresses get brought down and all the people who so called loved and adored them immediately was posting the most god awful things about them it’s sickening really to see ‘fans’ switch up that fast. And I must admit all that toxicity got to me for a moment I actually started to believe them and feel ashamed much like yourself for being in denial but now I see they were wrong.

I’m not saying I know him but I know they definitely don’t to say something so out of pocket and image cracking so fast without a second thought.

I HAVE HAVE AN E.G THIS IS BS TOO !

Allegedly Percy hynes white was meant to do some very inappropriate stuff to girls at his school and everyone got so bad they had him kicked off the show, now apparently said person is confessing they faked the messages and is Findling the whole situation funny.

So now Percy is innocent. I’m not a Wednesday fan but I had to laugh at all that drama going on people are so quick to Turn and maybe this isn’t the best comparison but people don’t give a fu€k when they’re getting enough attention for their lies.

[sunbeamsoup]

3, 6, 9, 11, 16, 19, 22, 25!!! (sorry if that’s too many just do which ones speak to u most. also HI)

3. Screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr 

I have an entire folder I could send you…

I think the cool thing about BOTH the mdzs and atla fandoms is that they are constantly elevating my expectations <3 Just when I thought I’d seen the worst take in existence someone pops up to prove we can always sink lower <333

6. Which ship fans are the most annoying?

Shipping in and of itself is consistently very annoying. (Wangxian). (do i contradict myself very well etc).

9. Worst part of canon

Well since we’re being bitter!

Most of my grievances or criticisms of mdzs are more reflective of trends I see across literature so they aren’t specific to the canon of mdzs. Prominently, the preoccupation with the physical attractiveness of every single character and the exclusive parameters of that attractiveness. Usually I’d caveat with how I’m not talking down to attractive people but fuck ‘em.

Plot elements that suck? Sadly, the Yi City arc weakens the story more than it adds and some of the flashbacks are atrociously paced but I FORGIVE THEM because I was buying every single second.

11. Number of fandom-related words you've filtered

Four: mdzs, cql, atla, zuko

16. You can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

Arranged marriage. Like I’ve done the thinking I know why people enjoy it I just came out the other side of that thinking and decided it still sucks. I also despise most Lan Wangji headcanons because I am a bitch who doesn’t enjoy fun. Or something. 

You know I really don’t understand the adoration for basically every side ship in mdzs the characters in that novel are pretty isolated from one another generally speaking. I've never been convinced by any of them. Even Xiyao is like yeah ig Lan Xichen was feeling something, but Jin Guangyao is deeply heterosexual (derogatory) to me. He married his own sister 🤨. 

19. You're mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like…

I can’t think of anything and if I did I wouldn’t just share it lmao. Mostly if I like something I’ve overthought it a thousand times so I tend to be fairly certain. 

22. Your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores

Its themes about choice and justice. Well, the latter one does get discussed just not in any way I’ve found myself agreeing with 100%.

25. Common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing

Anything about the “”slippery slope”” of censorship or “purity culture.”

apply here to enable my hater tendencies

[padawanlost]

not rlly here to ask anything, but i just wanted to confess -- i just feel so ashamed and guilty that i didn't realize the GAR was essentially a slave army, and it wasn't until i had jumped onto tumblr to search for cw meta that i learned that . i don't know why i didn't pick it up any sooner, but i didn't, and i just, feel so guilty abt it. i've since tried learning more abt slavery, but how do you reconcile/enjoy learning abt the jedi & sw when you know that they're unrepentant slave owners?

I think the important thing now is that you noticed it. and, to be fair, the movies don’t make that too obvious either. Other than the EU, The Clone Wars was the first mainstream star wars media that explored that side of the clone wars and somehow people still defend their enslavement and the Jedi role in it.  and, imo, that’s worse than not realizing they were slaves sooner. ‘I didn’t know’ is better than ‘I know but I don’t care’ because it shows you’re at least willing to recognize they were the real victims of the situation.

That’s something not all Jedi fans are willing to make. You’ll find a group of Jedi stans who associate acknowledging the clones enslavement with hating the jedi and wanting them to die. Their main argument is that those who support the system (the Jedi) aren’t part of the problem (slavery), the same way that people who kept slaves but were ‘kind’ to them aren’t guilty of supporting slavery. They are big fans of the myth of the good slaver, as if the fact the jedi accepted, trained and used a slave army somehow makes them exempt of moral judgment because they were also the good guys and a handful of times were even shown being kind to them.

There’s also the issue of racism because when fan favorite white characters are enslaved they are the first ones to cry over their pain and suffering. But when clones are enslaved and people talk about it they immediately become defensive calling these fans haters of their faves (usually, white Jedi). The zygerrians are evil for enslaving Obi-wan but the Jedi aren’t wrong for participating in the clones enslavement.

As for how I reconcile it, it’s easy. I don’t need fictional characters to be perfect for me to love them. I love Anakin Skywalker and I KNOW he cruelly committed countless crimes. I don’t need to pretend he didn’t kill anyone for me to love him. the same goes for the Jedi. I love them. I love them all with all my heart but I don’t need them to be perfect. I can recognize their mistakes and still love them. to be honest, the fact they made mistakes endear them to me because it humanizes them. Characters that make no mistakes are flawless characters and flawless characters aren’t human characters. If the Jedi never did anything wrong ever than they aren’t very complex characters, therefore not very interesting characters. And I like my characters interesting.

You know, when I say hey the jedi made mistakes, I’m not saying ‘I hate the jedi’. I’m simply talking about one of their many sides, I’m talking about the mistakes that make them so interesting. It’s amazing how people label me anti-jedi because I enjoy talking about politics and social issues, when I spend most of my free time thinking and writing about the Jedi order and their role in the galaxy. if I hated them as much as people pretend I do, this would be a *very* different blog lol

I’ll be real with you, I’m getting kind of done with it. people are free to love and hate whatever fictional character they want. but I’m tired of getting attacked for talking about very real social issues. I’m tired of seeing people who want to discuss racism, slavery, poverty, crime, prejudice on a fictional environment being labeled as haters because some folks cannot accept fictional characters are flawed. 

Nothing turns my stomach quite as much as people defending slavery, poverty, child labor and war crimes as ‘not that big deal’ or ‘someone else’s problem’ because it’s easier than to accept your fave made mistakes (at the same time they turn characters like Anakin, Barriss, Padmé and even Ahsoka into punching bags).

Look, I’m not one of those people who think the fictional you enjoy says anything about who you are as a person but I’m not gonna lie, lately it’s been raising alarms in my head to see how defensive some fans become when confronted with certain social/political issues.

[im-the-punk-who]

Idk if ur the right person to send this to so feel free to ignore if you aren't but I'm beginning to realize that I might be a trans guy after years of thinking I'm enby and I'm really struggling with that? I've received a lot of the messages over the years about how men are bad and violent and I've also experienced a lot of gender based violence before I was out. I know intellectually that there's nothing wrong with manhood and yet I'm still really struggling. Idk do you have any thoughts on learning to accept your own manhood

Okay! Sorry this took a few days to answer but this is...definitely still a complicated thing for me, too.

First off I wanna say that whether you end up identifying as a binary trans man or somewhere in between that and nonbinary, that is very cool and valid and all of this can apply no matter where on the spectrum of masculinity you ultimately end up falling.

I saw a post which explains the basic thesis of what I'm gonna say, which is that your gender does not equal your morality. 

Tumblr in particular really likes to go hard on the misandry and it can be really hard not to internalize that. Especially when it comes in the form of so many jokes, and especially especially when some of it does line up with experiences you’ve had. The biggest thing to realize, is that just *being a man* doesn't make you inherently violent or toxic or bad. All of the things that Tumblr and feminism in general tends to equate to “being a man = bad” are things that are learned or encouraged over time, no matter how much terfs like to insist they are traits inherent in being born with a y chromosome. 

(And yes, these misandry arguments ALL have their basis in gender essentialism and in arguing why trans people can’t exist.)

As this relates to trans men, it becomes akin to walking a tightrope our entire lives. In both society at large and LGBT spaces we're made to fit as close as possible into gender norms to avoid violence or oppression(or the insistence we’re really just lesbians or self-hating cishets). But we also have first hand experience of the ways in which men are *socialized* to behave being harmful and don’t want to perpetuate them and be labeled a ‘bad person’. So we have to constantly walk this line of, I suppose trying to act manly enough while also trying not to cause waves (And, AS A NOTE, does that sound eerily similar to the argument most feminists say is purely a feminine experience? Is it almost like the very system that seeks to free cis women through hatred of men perpetrates those exact same systems onto other marginalized communities?)

And I will say, this is something I still struggle with. A lot. It's not going to be something you can take a magic pill for and never have to worry about again. I started transitioning almost a decade ago and I'm still trying to find the balance. Cis men can spend their *whole lives* trying to find that balance. I know quite a few - in case it feels like this is a purely trans experience. Reckoning with the way that male privilege has socialized men to harm at the same time radical feminism has socialized everyone it can that all men intentionally cause harm is a universal experience among men who are aware of it. 

It's not easy, and I guess just...if you feel like you're struggling on that front as you continue your gender journey(Laynie i hate you i hate you i hate you) try to remind yourself that you're not alone. And that what you’re fighting against is a systemic socialization, not something inherent in yourself. You’re going to screw up - that doesn't make you a bad person or a bad man.

I listen a lot to Brene Brown. 

I know people are probably sick of hearing me talk about her, but she is a shame researcher who honestly helped me a LOT in realizing why I was feeling so bad about parts of my personality or my gender expression. She’s excellent. If you find you’re having a lot of trouble reckoning with being this thing you have perceived as bad for a very long time, I highly recommend listening to some of her ted talks and other speeches. Most of them are on youtube. 

For a long time I was trying to base my gender off of what I thought people would love. I went over the top, dressed in popular styles, was WAY more feminine than I actually feel, and tried to make myself as unassuming as possible - in part because of childhood trauma but also because I was genuinely ashamed to be a man(particularly a gay man) because I had internalized the idea that men - especially gay men - were woman-haters. (And, because I hated *myself* as a woman, I thought that I also hated women, and I thought that I must be one of those Bad Gays.)

But once I stopped trying to do that? Once I was like ‘no I’m actually a gay-up man’ and stopped berating myself for not liking my feminie body and hating the parts of myself that I didn’t identify with but felt forced to perform? Once I started looking at what made *me* happy and not other people? It became so much easier to not feel those things. 

SO I guess, what I’m saying is that the best way to deal with internalized misandry is to try to forgive yourself, and recognize that the things that men perpetrated against you and that people say are ‘toxic male traits’ are not *inherent* to being a man. They are things that are taught to men(both cis and trans) by society. And also that like, these are also things that are not just inherent to men. Any toxic trait that a man exhibits a woman can too - and yeah there’s a discussion about how the general power imbalance between men and women makes it less likely a woman would cause as much damage but honestly? If you’re on tumblr you’re most likely in female dominated spaces where arguably that isn’t true, especially with the number of fucking TERFS on this website. 

Also....you do not inherit cismale privilege just by identifying as a man. No matter how far you take your transition, you are *always* going to be at a different level of privilege from a cisman. Even if you transition as far as you are able to right now and live and pass as a cisman for the rest of your life, you are not a cisman and that is going to affect how you move through the world.

(That doesn’t mean you are not a *man* because you are not cis, btw. Just that there are things that cismen don’t have to worry about that are going to affect your life - things like ovarian cancer, breast cancer, hormonal dependence, corrective abuse, medical shortages, physical differences that out transpeople - there are a hundred things that trans men have to experience throughout their lives that cismen are never, ever going to deal with. And yes, this goes for transwomen / cis women as well.)

Something that helped me become comfortable living as a man was to look at specific traits of the men in my life. Why did I feel comfortable around this man, but not others, what red flags physically or emotionally did this behavior set off in me? And then focusing on those specific *behaviors* rather than the men themselves. If you can separate the individual traits from an overarching idea of 'manhood' that might be helpful in feeling like you can inhabit manhood without being toxic. 

Basically, my best advice is to tell yourself that what makes you a man does not make you inherently toxic. In fact what makes *all* men, men, does not make them inherently toxic. Men are not trash just because they’re men, and the fight against misandry *is* a fight for marginalized people. It hurts transmasculine people in exactly the ways you are hurting. No matter what TERFs say - no matter what male-critical or whatever they’re calling themselves to not have to call themselves TERFs say - men are not born evil, or bad, or trash. 

Toxic masculinity is a learned behavior. It is not something you are given the day you start identifying as a man, and it is not something you have to perpetuate. 

Calling it anything else does a disservice to everyone who identifies as masculine of center but especially trans men, who have to reckon with this exact knowledge that in affirming who they are, certain people are going to hate them and call them monsters and tell them they are trash and unworthy of loving without hurting. 

And that shit just isn’t true. It isn’t fucking true! Men are not toxic just because they are men, and you are not a bad person just because you are a transman. That’s, I suppose, the best advice I can offer you. I hope it helps, and I also just want to reiterate that I hope you find affirmation in whatever you end up deciding. <3 <3 <3

[slytherflynn]

The Return of Slytherflynn | Witch Weekly No. 1

Salutations, witches and wizards! Slytherflynn here. I haven’t posted on this account in a long time. My reason? Actually, there are a few. I’ll get to those soon. Today I’m going to give you an introduction to me, discuss why my exodus happened, and what this blog will consist of moving forward. Let’s jump right in!

Who Is Slytherflynn? Who else? My name’s Eden, but my last name is Flynn, hence the username. I am a Slytherin primary, Hufflepuff secondary. My patronus is a dolphin, so that’s pretty cool. I’m mixed, but live the life of a white girl because I look white and don’t care to argue with people about my DNA. I enjoy elevating underrepresented voices, and will go to any length to protect the unprotected. I’d consider myself to be a humanitarian. I know people despise labels, but I believe choosing labels wisely can give others a great insight into who you are as a person, so here are some labels I identify with: Bisexual, Androgynous, BLM Ally, Liberal, Socialist, University Student, Abuse Survivor, ADHD, Excoriation Disorder, OCD, Depression, PTSD, [an] Attachment Disorder, Social Anxiety Disorder, Tacoman, Creator. There are plenty more I could throw out there, but those in particular are important to me. Make of them what you will, but know that I am not ashamed of any of those. I am going to open a nonprofit center supporting POC Youth and connected communities in art and education, but I also want to do everything. Now that you know about me...

Who Are You? Yes, you, reading this paper! What do we have in common? Different? What makes you special, and what makes you the same? What communities are you tied to? Tell me in the replies!

My Magical Journey I grew up in a dreadfully muggle world. My mother, also a muggle, delighted in Harry Potter, as did my brothers. I was resolutely a Harry Potter hater, and thought they were too fangirly, but when Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince came out and I saw Louis Cordice portray Blaise Zabini, everything changed. I may or may not have gone off the deep end and started fangirling over him - what? He’s attractive, okay? But I did end up reeling myself in, as having unrealistic fictional crush is one thing, but thirsting for an unattainable person who probably is married with a kid by now is another, and I didn’t want to get to a point where I was fetishizing someone rather than admiring them for their skills and unique perspective on the world. He did notice my thirsting though, and thought it was funny! So no harm, no foul as far as I’m concerned. Absolute win! Anyways, after becoming a fan of him, Tumblr let me know that there was more content about Blaise Zabini in the books than the movies, so what did I do? Commit to reading all seven, because my ADHD said so and would rather do that than homework. Eventually, I started up this side blog so my main blog wouldn’t be so flooded with hp content. I have written quite a few fics, all appropriate, all probably trash because most of them were written in my junior year of high school, all available for you to read. I ought to make a masterlist for my work, now that I think about it. Anyways, you can find that content and other fun stuff under the tag #slytherflynn so check that out for some light, probably shitty reading!

Why I Left At some point, I decided not to post as much, and went from 100 to 0, real quick. I have a bunch of unfinished writing in my drafts, and I’m not really sure how to start up everything again, but I know I want to, because writing and creating is such a passion of mine, and so is Harry Potter. Part of the reason I left was because I’m a perfectionist and felt this need to make every post perfect, my feed perfectly curated, everything perfectly on time, and I ended up holding myself to a standard that I just can’t meet - no human could, not even Hermione Granger, as evidenced in Prisoner of Azkaban. It took a long time to come back to this blog because I burnt myself out, truth be told. That perfectionism carries over into every aspect of my life - I did mention I want to do everything, after all - and I ended up piling so much up that I couldn’t get all of it done. I felt guilty every time I thought about this blog, because I had so many faithful followers that I essentially abandoned without warning, and I know feeling abandoned isn’t a good feeling. That, and I still couldn’t shake the shame surrounding the fact that I wasn’t posting content every week despite my want to. I even considered deleting this blog! Sorry to anyone who was waiting for me to post hp content on my main account ( @id-rather-be-an-outsider ), I got too anxious to do that, even.

Seeing the Future I’m not skilled at Divination, but I can confirm that I will be making an official return to this blog - complete with Witch Weekly articles whenever I have updates to give! I have at least one short fic finished that I’d like to create a moodboard for and post on here sometime soon. This time around, I’m only going to be posting when I really want to so I’m not putting any pressure on myself, and I’m going to open up asks for you guys to request writing for pairings (note that I do not write smut), as well as giving you guys the opportunity to submit stories - my goal for submissions is to elevate PoC and other voices the masses don’t usually hear, and I encourage those who do submit to always self-promote in their author’s note! You can find the guidelines for post submissions on my submission section :)

Goodbyes Since we are reaching the end of this article, I’m going to be officially saying goodbye to: negativity, destructively high and unrealistic expectations, anxiety, writer’s block, artist’s block, fear of under 10 notes (notes shouldn’t matter, but yakno, there’s still gonna be that part of me that knows bad writing probably won’t be getting 10 notes so it’s still... scary), fear of unfair criticisms, defensiveness... and hello to: creativity, letting our hair down, wearing our glasses, posts on the witching hour, going to bed early instead of staying up late to force out a piece, perfectly imperfect writing, pretty moodboards, and making mistakes! Hope to see you all soon with a post, and Happy Pride! My city’s official Pride month is July so I get to celebrate Pride twice, lucky me!

be loving <3 - slytherflynn

[eyecicles]

About the trend of L being a gross frog, it makes sense to me that L haters call him disgusting toadman and tag every frog photo as L lawliet, but why do L fans do it too? Isn't it just gross? sorry maybe I'm too squeamish

Interesting question. Of course there’s no easy answer, and I can’t possibly know what everyone who’s doing this is thinking. But I indeed don’t think that this is often deeper than people simply having fun with a well-known meme. Sometimes it’s just about preference… Some people like to playfully bash their favourite characters, others don’t. I can understand why some find this sort of thing distasteful; I’m a bit sensitive about certain aspects of this trend as well.

Frog comparisons don’t have to be inherently mean though - I know that any similarities I see between frogs and L aren’t at all things I find gross about him. Also because I rather like frogs.

If you’re interested in a longer explanation/some more thoughts on this topic:

No idea how much you already know about this, but for a long time, a popular fandom trend was to associate L with pandas. (I believe even Obata compared at least his eyes to pandas.) This was when probably the largest, or at least the loudest, part of the fandom thought of L as genuinely adorable, innocent and… nice. The hype died down, lots of people in the fandom grew up and the way people see him now changed a lot. At least on some websites - definitely on tumblr though.

And a couple of years back, we were basically flooded with L hate. It was plain, boring character bashing but, I’m assuming because of his still rather stable popularity, it wasn’t something many people objected to. Often this even came from people who allegedly liked him? It was a confusing time.

And, well, I think there’s a link between how the fandom perception of L changed over the years and how now even a lot of people who do like him directly or indirectly insult him.

Of course there are a lot of things you can criticise L for. I’m in fact in love with both his assets and flaws, so I’m not at all blind to what makes him a morally grey character. I love pointing out his darker sides.

And there’s also the fact to consider that L is intentionally depicted a bit gross sometimes (the “ewww” in the background really sells this, lol):

Both Ohba and Obata said they tried to make him unattractive/unappealing. …Which is another thing I personally love about him. Because his supposedly unattractive appearance and behaviour is, in essence, just him not giving a single fuck about what other people think of him. And that’s hot.

And I think calling L “gross” and insulting him in other ways, can also serve the purpose of showing how you aren’t like L fans who think of him as divine perfection. These days, a lot of his fans seem to be ashamed of their love for him (which is obviously ridiculous).

But again, I think how you engage in fandoms, how you view and like a fictional character, is a pretty personal thing and I certainly don’t always understand what other people are doing either… I’ve made some observations, but I have no interest in psychoanalysing everyone in this fandom.

Controversial opinion, but I’m in general not at all a fan of this intense focus on L’s looks and mannerisms. It makes me uncomfortable how some people act as if it’s only “valid” to like characters we can all agree are conventionally attractive. And it’s even worse when they actively bash completely harmless behaviour, mannerisms you can find in real people, who are mostly autistic… I don’t take fiction as seriously as it probably sounds, but that’s still something I find gross (ha!) too.

Like, I’ve had someone compare L to frogs in a degrading manner under a post I wrote about how I relate to him as an autistic person. And that’s, hm, not great.

Still, I think this meme is mostly not as mean-spirited as it comes across at first, so it doesn’t inherently bother me. Even though L is among my all-time favourite characters.

[avenpt]

I saw some exclusionary content the other day that was so bad I took my flag down and put it back in the closet in shame. I get so much flak for my identity that I don't want it anymore. I end up encountering so many shitty people and posts on here, I'm not sure I can face the burden of being ace, at least for now. I know it's pride month and it should all be good and fun, but it isn't. Do you have any tips to get around these feelings?

Hi there! Oh dear, I’m so sorry that you encountered such exclusionary content! That’s awful. :/ It’s really not fair to anyone…please do not feel ashamed. There’s nothing wrong with you, ok? And you’re not alone. There are a ton of positive ace pride posts and accounts here on Tumblr and elsewhere. It’s always difficult to face the ones that are exclusionists and jerks in general…it’s not up to them to judge others, and it’s not up to them to say who is or isn’t allowed at Pride.

My best advice is to get your flag back out of that closet and cherish it, feel pride in it. People on the internet enjoy the anonymity. They feel powerful, being able to put down others that they don’t think are “right” or “belong.” But guess what? They’re the insecure ones. They’re the ones that are afraid of having their importance swept away, which is not what ace/aro pride is about at all. You are you, and you are awesome. There’s nothing wrong with being ace, ok? Asexuals belong at Pride. We deserve to celebrate during pride month…so please do your best to ignore the haters. If you need a break from social media for a bit, how about trying that? But just know you’re not alone. *huuuuuuugs* We are here for you!! @fuckyeahasexual is an account I greatly recommend to follow, too. I wish you the best, and HAPPY PRIDE!!! *hugs*

[pikaflute]

Being wrong is hard work. We as people like to be right and correct all the time. Being wrong feels....well wrong. You feel ashamed for your mistakes and like total shit when you’re wrong. We strive to always be correct and right all the time, but you’re never going to be right all the time. Hell, even as I’m typing this I know I’ve been wrong and time to time I fuck up. 

But see, I and many other people change frequently. I am not the same person i was when I started this blog back in 2014. I’m much more aware of the consequences of my actions as I’ve grown up and matured and am more aware of fuck ups I make. Changing and growing up is hard, and many people are stubborn and don’t want to do it. Taking accountability has to put them in this awkward confrontational spot that makes them actually take responsibility and they don’t want to do it.

With that in mind, I’m here to say shut the fuck up. So what? You’re wrong. Admit that you fucked up. Apologize. Take responsibility for what you did an become a better person.

The elephant in the room is obviously Gaud. This is not their first time up to the tumblr discourse bat, and while, yes, sending death threats is a little extreme, fans of Gaud seem to think that’s all that is happening. But it’s not. People just want accountability. They want Gaud to just apologize cleanly for lesbophobia and saying the nword while Gaud is not black.

But Gaud either refuses to apologize cleanly or just, dismisses all criticism as angry trolls who are TERFs (their fans did this more than Gaud themself did) or not really black ("Due to the details of call out culture, it’s difficult for me to ascertain if any of the criticism I’ve begun receiving is from actual black voices, or if (as I suspect) it is almost entirely from the group of trolls who have been targeting my blog over the last few months, and appropriating minority voices as an excuse. I am very ready to listen to feedback and criticism about the post in question, but from black voices specifically. If I was disrespectful, I want to fix that. But I’m damn tired of trolls speaking for (and erasing) minority voices as an excuse to harass people online.“).

The first apology regarding the lesbophobia was okay in theory. However, their tags say and I quote “#the only purpose of these dumbass shitposts is to make people laugh #while also feeling the need to check under the bed for monsters” which seems a little disingenuous, as if to say “i don’t know why everyone is so mad, these were just jokes”

No you may be wondering why I said in theory this apology was good. Well this reply popped up calling angry and upset lesbians abusive shitheads and Gaud basically agreeing with what they said. Yeah real fucking sorry huh. Not to mention basically pubically posting the urls of angry lesbians who were rightly felt mad at their lesbophobia as “hatemail”.

Their second more recent apology was even worse. If we’re not counting how they basically don’t believe many people criticizing them were not black they don’t even apologize for using it. They say “I chose not to censor the word when copying the quote b/c Sam purposely uses it as a powerful final note to her speech, and at the time I was concerned that censoring it would be dishonest, and catering to white discomfort.” This is excusing it, it’s not even an apology. They even start the post with “ I’ve been accused of using the N word.“ as if they don’t even know what the problem is. And they use it again in that “apology post! They basically learnt nothing!

This is also not addressing the female socialization comment they made which is transmisogynistic. Specifically in the tags of this post (now deleted) said “ #i’m nonbinary but i’ve been socialized and perceived female my whole life which means there is a huge overlap bt the female experience and my experiences.” Whether Gaud meant to or not, this in itself is transmisogynistic, as TERFs use it to say trans women are not real women since they have been “male socialized” instead of female socialized. I am not a trans woman myself, so my knowledge is pretty limited, however the callout I have linked in the bottom of this post does go into it in more detail in the transmisogynist section

So why did they delete the tags? Well, they made this post after deleting said tags. You may notice that isn’t apology, this is an attempt to garner sympathy.  And before you say it, yes Gaud made an apology in the replies of the original post they made. But why only in the replies? Just posting a really shitty post that is like “well these meanies don’t like me because I can’t apologize correct!” just makes people like you even less.

Finally, in this post they admit they cannot take criticism. But this reply sucks. They say they’ve never learned how to process criticism from their parents/adults (ignoring the fact that responding to criticism depends on you specifically and also they literally just shifted the blame of them no being able to do as their parent’s fault what???). They also say they can’t reply correctly to criticism because of “angry scrutiny & criticism from anonymous internet users who may or may not already have decided I’m irredeemably”. Which is like...huh? You can’t reply to criticism because people don’t like you for the thing that they’re criticizing you for? What are they supposed to do then? Gaud also employed self-deprecation “Or I’m a shitty garbage person who should delete their blog." and specific tags such as “im sorry for bumming ya’ll out” which is more of a cry for sympathy than an actual apology.

In conclusion, Gaud needs to learn how to apologize and handle criticism. They need to realize that people who is criticizing them is not a hater out to get them, and have valid critiques. Sometimes people are going to be angry, but you can’t dismiss someone because they’re angry at you. As someone who is autistic as well, I understand that communication can be difficult but you need to take responsibility regardless. As I said earlier, just admit that you fucked up. These wishy washy and sympathy grabbing replies aren’t going to cut it.

Not everyone is going to like you Gaud. Not everyone is going to forgive you. And that’s okay! I think personally if you apologized without trying to make yourself seem like the person who’s been wronged more people would see that as a step in the right direction. It’s just so far, every attempt Gaud has made has not done that as I’ve explained.

And to Gaud’s fans, wanting Gaud to properly apologize is not callout culture. It’s wanting an adult to take responsibility for their actions.

Here’s a more in depth callout post for gaud to read at your leisure as well. TW: for rape, pedophilia, antisemitism, incest, anti black racism and lesbophobia.

[migleefulmoments]

Anonymous Submitted:

I received a terrific submission but they asked me to remove their name. So here it is sans username;

I’ve been thinking a lot about this, and came to the conclusion that there is a really toxic behaviour fans (in general) tend to have. And that is not letting your favourite grow and change.

You start to like someone in their early 20s, and by the time they are nearly 40, you are still clinging to the image they presented when they just started out. You started to like them for certain roles and qualities, or a music genre they perform in, and you are looking for that in their upcoming works too. But clearly as life goes on, we all change, and our experiences or new goals change how we present ourselves or how we act.

Or they simply won’t cast you as a teenager anymore, because clearly you don’t look like one - and maybe you don’t want to play one anymore. I can’t imagine Brad Pitt or Julia Roberts begging casting directors for teen roles. Sure they could pull it off because they are great actors, but they are more than that, right?

People want to challenge themselves, they choose roles they haven’t done before. In this case, I can totally see Darren wanting to choose straight roles (or roles where your sexuality is not important, because that is not what your character is about). He clearly played enough LGBTQ+ roles for now, let’s give him something else if that is what he wants.

The other thing fans can’t let go of, regarding changing and growing, is the ‘facts’ (as we know so well).

Since this is the age of the internet, you can easily find any tweet, video, interview, anything that is related to you favourite. They say something about their love life or how they look at fame at 22, and then 26, and then 30 - and those lines either stay the same during the years, or dramatically change, it all depends on what happened during those years.

Many fans will look at these interviews and tweets like they are some kind of Holy Script - if he said this, it must be the truth from now on, nothing will change it. If a later interview or action doesn’t sync up with it, then it must be fake, they must be fake, they are liars, etc.

“It’s a FACT that he is a private person, look at this interview from 1898 and then 1903! Surely he won’t parade his wedding around town in 1910, even though 12 years went by!” Bringing up old Darren interviews and claiming he wouldn’t do this to his wedding just shows to me, that they don’t want to accept the FACT, that he MIGHT be changing some of his ways. He is a better known actor now, it’s kind of “must to do” thing to show your wedding pictures to the public. And if he doesn’t “have to” show them around, he can still choose to do so - it’s his wedding. All of the married Glee cast members posted a few handful of wedding pictures during the years. It’s clearly no big deal.

So Darren can’t change during the years, grow up and become a person with different thoughts and priorities than when we was 23 and starting out on Glee. Which means that also Mia couldn’t change during all these years.

Mia, who probably really didn’t expect in the beginning that she will be famous enough to have haters, tweeted about stuff she wanted to tweet about - just like any one of us would do. She probably made some questionable tweets, sure (I’m not familiar with all her tweets, because I clearly don’t care enough). But did she think at 24 or 26 that in a few years some people will go after her old tweets and like a Holy Script, will think these are the actual truths about her and will hold them against her? Come on now.

Acting like 26 year old Mia is the same person who she is at 33 is the stupidest thing ever. They pretty much claim she hasn’t changed a bit since then. They are dragging younger Mia for her behaviour when their present selves are doing the exact same thing, which shows they are definitely not changing for better or worse.

Non of us are saints, we all made comments before or had actions we are ashamed of now - which just shows we are capable of changing.

My favourite example is Nicole Richie. Look at where she started, with Paris Hilton, going from one party to the other, drinking, using drugs, sometimes showing off different bodyparts too. She also went to prison for a really short time for DUI, because she was already pregnant with her first child. From that moment she really tried to change her ways. She is a happy, beautiful mom of 2, has a good and loving marriage, her work in fashion and TV is going great.

If she was capable of changing and making a successful life for herself, don’t tell me Mia is still stuck at her younger self. Or Darren, for the matter.

All in all - I think it’s really toxic that fans (in general, in any fandom, in our fandom) look at what their favourites says as the Gospel Truth, the Holy Script, and with that make them into a cardboard cut that is incapable of change or new experiences and goals, because they are stuck in that same one age, pose and state of mind. (This was really long, sorry. XD If you want to post it, could you leave my name out? Not because they would find anything on my Tumblr, but I guess my name and work was known enough to maybe stir some emotions…? LOL Thank you! :))

[hedgehog-goulash7]

It’s hard to even begin to comprehend the sheer ugliness of the anti-Tony Stark clique. I mean, there are a lot of fictional characters in the movie pantheon that I dislike and even, on occasion, can’t stand. (Including some of the Avengers, sadly.) I’m sure a lot of us have our non-favorites or characters that just rub us the wrong way.

But normally people don’t go waaaay out of their way to write unhinged rants and lengthy screeds on how much they hate a character, launch attacks on their fellow fans, and disrupt and upset people by leaving hateful comments on posts created by fellow fans who are just having fun and appreciating their favorite character (like “we can’t stand you being happy, so let’s lob some hate in here”). Normally, people don’t build blogs devoted simply to hating a character (and if you think that’s “normal,” you must have a LOT more free time than most of us, who would prefer to spend our precious free time being positive and having fun...). Normally, fellow fans don’t leave reprehensible comments and outright death threats in inboxes. All over a fictional character.

I know this is probably immature people with no grasp of literature or character development simply trying to parse a character at his most basic level, and then acting out in childish ways under cover of their pseudonyms. (And if it IS adults, you should be ashamed of yourselves -- and please learn to spell...) And the threats (including the one I got today, which prompted this post) don’t bother me at all, because what are you going to do, lol, crawl through my computer? It’s just stupidity; I report you, and hopefully Tumblr will shut you down. (And it’s Tumblr, which means none of this really means anything to the outside world, where Tony Stark continues to be the most popular and beloved MCU character.)  And someday probably haters will look back on this and be regretful that you tried to hurt and insult fellow fans -- who are PEOPLE that you don’t know and you’d probably never insult in person -- over a character.

Note that I’m using the term “fellow fans” a lot because that’s what we’re all supposed to be. The MCU fandom was pretty together until some people fell for the marketing ploy of “Civil War” and decided there were “teams,” and then some were butthurt because Tony Stark was even IN the movie, which, by the way, is “Civil War” and Tony is pretty integral to that plotline. Then THAT started the whole idiotic meme of “RDJ forces his way into movies” and “Marvel kisses RDJ’s ass” and “RDJ eats up everybody else’s screentime” - when in reality RDJ has been onscreen a total of about 27 minutes over the past two years. He’s the Rare Bird of the Galaxy -- you almost NEVER see him on screen. That’s why his fans are so delighted and happy when he finally appears. 

The little clique of haters are so base and ugly and repugnant, and while I can take it and just shake my head, I worry about other fans -- and younger fans -- who are also on the receiving end of this and might take it seriously.  If ANY of you are getting this hateful treatment and it’s annoying or upsetting you, just know that there are many, many of us out here that you can talk to who ARE fans in the most positive way. None of this hate can hurt you and they can’t threaten you -- if they do, REPORT them to Tumblr. Tumblr can find out who they are even if they think they’re anon.

Also, it’s been wonderful to see that the advent of the little group of haters has caused the Tony Stark fandom to unite and become even larger and stronger now than it ever has been. It used to be that there was a huge MCU fandom and then we sort of posted about our favorites now and then. But now the pro-Tonys have united -- and we’re also welcoming a ton of new fans (and those who have finally had their eyes opened...and that’s OK!) to the Tony Stark club because of “Infinity War.”

And things will be even better after “Avengers 4,” mark my words, because there are only a couple of ways story-wise that this can go, and they’re all good.  The dwindling haters can wallow in their bitterness and negativity, while we celebrate. 

[areluctantsblog]

About hate

Let this post be a note of the first time hate for starker has really hurt me on a personal level. And I didn't even receive it personally, "just" in general. Still, I've been feeling like a freak all day long. I was thinking that maybe I should leave this fandom, abandon my works in progress and be quietly ashamed of myself (more than I usually am). I mean, I know that my reasons for shipping starker are pretty fucked up. But, for me, reading and writing starker is just as much an attempt to cope as it is - for want of a better word - a symptom of those fucked up things. And as far as I know there are far worse things that can come out of people's messed up psyche and socially unacceptable desires than a few fictional stories or artworks.

And also, if a writer is upset that starker shippers read and share their stories, then I really think they should make good use of those haters’ lists and block us. I get their feelings, though, because it took me like 5 seconds to imagine a situation in which I'd be freaked out about someone reading and sharing my stories. But I accept that risk when posting online and hell, Tumblr actually offers the possibility of blocking people who are unacceptable for us. I'm still sad though, that in certain people's eyes I can be reduced to a ship I like among many others and that it makes my appreciation for someone's work worthless.

Bottom line is: hate the sin, not the sinner, please. And let me add, that most of us are very aware - even without all the hate - that this ship can be problematic. And while self-awareness doesn't necessarily make problematic things less problematic, I truly believe that it reduces the risk of the person mindlessly hurting others.

[musicofthenightphantomoftheopera]

Dear Voltron Fandom (an open letter)

Dear Voltron Fandom,

You don’t know me, but I know you. Before I get into this, allow me to introduce myself so I’m not a stranger. My name is Paiton. I’m 19 years old, and I have high functioning autism, and the character I relate to and love the most is Pidge. I have traversed through many a fandom in my life so far. From Avatar:The Last Airbender, to Sailor Moon, Steven Universe, Disney, you name it! All of these fandoms are loving and wonderful in their own way. However, every fandom has a dark side; It’s just the nature of fandoms, unfortunately. Despite that, I was able to look past that, and be proud to be a part of them! But NEVER have I EVER been more ashamed of being in a fandom when I got dragged into Voltron. Before that, I heard rumors of how toxic the fandom was and all of the crazy stunts some fans tried to pull in order to get what they wanted into the show. So, I tried to avoid the show and its fandom like the plague at all costs.Two months went by and my curiosity got the best of me and I decided to check out the show just to see what all the fuss was about. Turns out I really liked the show and Pidge quickly became my favorite! Hell, I even started a Pidge Ita Bag; just added the first charm to it a couple of days ago! I started out just keeping to myself on my quiet little tumblr blog just reblogging fan art and fics as well as interesting theories and talking to my friends about it. And I can’t forget about buying Voltron fan swag! All was well, despite the occasional bits popping up about the latest fandom disasters. That is up until quite recently. I thought I had seen it all when I had to fight to defend Sailor Moon fans that were being bashed for liking Sailor Moon Crystal or for getting into Sailor Moon in general because of Crystal. I thought I had seen it all when I saw SOULESS Steven Universe “fans” telling an artist to kill herself for drawing Rose Quartz skinny. I thought I had seen it all when I saw the Brony fandom in general. But this....sending death threats to the voice actors and their families, blackmailing the creators in order yo make Klance canon, and a rumor that some antis were burning fanart?! This is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE! To those who participated in ANY of these horrible actions or any other crimes against the fandom, you ought to be ASHAMED of yourselves! Your actions are SHAMEFUL and you should /feel/ ASHAMED. People like you are a disgrace to this and every other fandom out there. You are the reason why the Voltron fandom has such a bad reputation. Now for the sake of this not being me dragging the voltron fandom for the entirety of however long this is going to be, I’m going to play devil’s advocate for a minute or two. I know that not everyone in the Voltron fandom is bad. Hell, my best friend is a Klance shipper and a Lance fangirl and she’s one of the chillest Voltron fans I know! And you want your ships to be canon, I get it. Every fan wants their ship to be canon, weather its a strait, or LGBTQ+ ship. We need more LGBTQ+ representation in...well, pretty much everything really. And it is coming. Its getting there, but  its gradual and you have to be patient! “Patience yields focus” , in the immortal words of our beloved Space Dad. But I also understand that fandoms can change things as well. The first example that comes to mind is Kim Possible if any of you reading this are old enough to remember. When Kim and Ron finally got together in the movie that was supposed to be the series finale, the fans flipped every last crumb of their shit and wrote in, demanding another season. And another season they got, ending with Kim and Ron graduating high school. So fandoms /can/ change things, but this.... Blackmail, death threats, is NOT the way to do it! If anything, stuff like that will steer people away from creating representation just because of the sheer mass hysteria it causes within fandoms! Its the toxic people in the Voltron fandom that pull this sort of stuff that steered me away from the show in the first place. To the toxic people in the Voltron fandom who call themselves proud members of the community. You know who you are. I am calling all of you out. You are not fans. You are bullies. Plain and simple. The kind that beat up the little kid with glasses and stuff them in a locker for being a nerd. The kind that steals lunch money in the cafeteria when the teacher isn’t looking. The kind that spread awful rumors about that shy little girl that likes anime, telling her that nobody would care if she died, only worse. You are the very same kind of bullies that I tried to get away from by joining fandoms (supposedly an accepting environment for people who are different and like the same stuff) in the first place. Now I am the kind of person that doesn’t have a temper. However, stuff like this is one of the very few things that get me righteously pissed off. But I don’t yell, or scream, or punch a wall. Instead, I channel that anger into fuel I can use for something else. Which is what made me write this open letter to you, the Voltron fandom. Like I said earlier, not everyone in the Voltron fandom is bad. To all of those that just enjoy the show and respect other people’s ships, or don’t give a dam about ships at all. thank you for being decent human beings and trying to clean up the mess these toxic, souless antis made of our fandom. After seeing all of this I can tell you that I am officially 1000% DONE with this bull. So I am calling the antis out. Consider this a reality check for ALL of you. This is a fucking CARTOON. The people you are shipping so feverishly together are fictional characters. Underline the word “Fictional” as in “not real”. At the end of the day, they are just a bunch of lines and colors moving frame by frame and voiced by real human beings with feelings. They are not above emotions like some of you idiots think they are. When are you going to get it through your tiny brain cases you call heads that how you are acting is childish, immature, and just plain sadistic?! I want to get something strait right now. I do not hate the voltron fandom, not at all. I hate what its become. These horrible antis and haters and toxic people are infecting the fandom like a deadly disease; like a fast spreading plague that causes the slow and painful death of its victum. However, unlike the real Black Plague, there is a cure! And a contagious one at that! So I’m sending out a call to action to every decent human being in the fandom! Those who are here just to enjoy the show for what it is with other people and have a good time, the older fans who got into Voltron: Legendary Defenders because they grew up with the older versions, the Multishippers, those who are respectful of other people’s ships,, or don’t give a dam about shipping at all, as well as those who keep their accounts as safe spaces for all fans. Do your girl a solid and help make the Voltron fandom a better place. Please, be a voice for good. If you see a fan getting harassed by an anti, just politely shut them down. Don’t go full on Leroy Jenkins and fight back, don’t feed the trolls, guys! Just politely tell them to back off and ignore them after that. Then, turn around and try to cheer up the person who got harassed! Share your favorite fan art pieces with them or give them fic recommendations! Who knows, you just might make a new friend! If you see someone you follow on any social media platform doing any of the bullshit I’ve previously mentioned earlier, unfollow them immediately. You don’t need that kind of negativity in your life and neither does anybody else. Let your followers know that your account is a safe space for all decent Voltron fans to geek out and that there is a ZERO TOLERANCE policy for antis. If someone disagrees with you on your ship or theory, politely ask them to explain their reasoning in a civil manner. Get a dialogue going so the whole thing doesn’t turn into an all out screaming match. It can be done, people! It is possible! It just takes a little effort. It may take some time, hard work, blood, sweat, and tears, but I beleive we can fix the fandom if we all work together.  Now I also want to take a moment to send a message. To the voice actors of Voltron; Bex taylor Klaus (My Queen), Jeremy Shada, Steven Yeun, Josh Keiton, Kimberly Brooks, Tyler Labine, Rhys Darby, and A.J. Locascio. To the Co-Creators of Voltron; Joaquim Dos Santos and Lauren Montgomery. I am not apologizing for the actions of the toxic part of the fandom (that’s a mess they gotta clean up themselves), but I am speaking for the good part of the fandom and myself when I say that we apologize for what these souless people have put you through. Nobody should ever have to go through that just some people want a small sense of validation in their ship being canon. We love all of you and we hope that you can find it in your hearts to give the fandom a chance to redeem itself. I wrote this in hopes of waking some people up and start to to change things for the better. At least that’s what I hope will come of this rant that I wrote all in one sitting at 4 am. Just know that we all love and respect you and I am going to try my hardest to help change this fandom for the better with the help of my friends and followers, as well as the rest of the fandom that actually has a soul and a conscience. We are going to try and remind everyone that we are all on the same side. We all love the same show and the same characters and the same story. After all, we’re all made up of the same cosmic dust.

signed,

Paiton

[facepalming-since-chernobyl]

(part 1) I noticed ur anti supercorp fandom posts and I'm in tears. You take the action of a few assholes and use it to represent our whole fandom. Every fandom has assholes and sadly people in other fandoms only see the assholes. You can hate a ship but hating on real people will NEVER be okay. I am a sc shipper and karolsen shipper a cser. I am anti slave owners replacing a black love interest and not respecting kara. That has nothing to do with ships and it never will.

I’m sorry but you are an idiot. First of all, if you go to the ao3 where I post it clearly says anti FANATIC side of the sc fandom. 

Secondly, it’s tagged correctly - as anti crack fic. I didn’t even tagged Lena there. Or used “Supercoorp” word. So my question is WHY DID YOU READ IT if you obviously knew it was going tp upset you? Sorry, I’m not sorry but I am NOT responsible of your happiness here if don’t even know how to protect yourself. Don’t like don’t read. How hard it is? Did you send anons to people from your fandom who tag their abusive, gross fics as karamel where they kill Mon, make fun of karamel and make it supercoorp fics? :)

Next. Few idiots? Don’t make me laugh. You need to block more than 300 blogs that are usually SC to scroll karamel tag without seeing hate. Do you want me to post all shit I gathered so far from your fandom that I found in our pro tags? I have hundreds of screen shots. Hating on real people? Go and say that to people from Sc fandom who attack Chris, Melissa and other cast members constantly on social media, on THEIR official accounts. Also, if you call my fic “hating on real people” then wow, you have seen nothing, kid.

First you say: “ I am anti slave owners replacing a black love interest “ and then you say: “That has nothing to do with ships“ :)))))

(part 2) I have NEVER harassed one of the actors. Most of us haven’t. The majority of us were disgusted by the people (who were apparently proven to be trolls but idk the whole story there) who harassed Rahul. The lack of queer representation in the media is no joke. When you turn on the tv you see representation it doesn’t matter the channel or time. It is so easy for you to find a couple that represents you. For me, I have to search so hard. I have yet to find a canon couple that i relate to

Cool for you. A funny story - I haven’t harrassed a soul too. And yeah, you didn’t harass but you also did nothing to stop the haters. The biggest anti accounts still are high and mighty, followed by enormous group of people, their posts have hundreds of notes. Proven to be trolls - lol. Do you tell yourself that before sleep? You have your queer representationm in the show, it was called Sanvers and AgentCanary. CANON. But you decided to ignore that for a CRACK ship. Suit yourself. 

(part 3) so I am stuck with relationships that I don’t really relate to but at least the genders are right. Supercorp is that ship I really relate to. I relate to Kara so much and Lena is exactly my type. It is that one time where I say hey that is like me. I know it won’t happen and that isn’t the problem. Karolsen is also a non-canon ship that people want why wasn’t karolsen made fun of? Before you say it is the fandom I urge you to remember that isn’t most of us.

…you can’t find a ship you can relate along a lot LGBT ships to, but you relate to a ship made by an ALIEN superhero and a super rich genius? It sounds like you need to have some super high standards to relate to a ship. It’s like, you are a blonde, so you can relate to Kara. It sounds like that. And oh boi, my asexual ass can relate so much to the characters in the tv shows - so many characters. TONS. Not that like every of them always just has to end with a romantic interest *sarcasm* Also, I don’t get why you even start to talk about it - ship whatever shit you want and relate to any shit you want - did I say you can’t or something?

And wow, you can’t relate to a lot of ships, just to that ONE, but you can relate to WHOLE SC fandom, made by different people and whatever. Yay.

Karolsen was canon, what show you watch for god’s sake? And Jesus, Karolsen was thrashed in s1 by people. Hello?

(part 4) It left me feeling bad and guilty about who I ship & that the people I look up to hate me. I have something called Borderline Personality Disorder & often think I am worthless & am terrified of abandonment. When the cast said that stuff at SDCC I felt abandoned by people who have never even met me. It made me feel so worthless & awful that these people who I love and support who don’t even know who I am hate me. But please, go on about how awful the sc fandom is and deserved it.

And sorry, but you totally MISSED the point of my fic. it is a satire. It points flaws and problems that run in your precious oh so no abusive and toxic fandom. There is not a SINGLE line that says you should feel ashamed of shipping it. All thing I put there were created by your fandom. YOUR fandom created these things. YOUR fandom started putting abusive not karamel fics in karamel tags. I wrote that fic because of abusive assholes from your fandom. 

I’m sorry you have to deal with your problems and health issues but I ask you again - WHY you read stuff that is CLEARLY not for you and WHY you don’t protect yourself? You want me to make me feel guilty or something? Sorry, but I don’t feel this way, abusive assholes FROM SC FANDOM who told me I should kill myself or sent me gross shit right after my mother died and I was super depressed made my skin thick. But ok, I only have anxiety now, so my problems are not as valid as yours, I guess? Becasue I ship a former slave owner with your precious Kara, huh? Hot damn, life is brutal. Also, I guess people who ship only becasue it makes them happy and they don’t have problems in life are not important and their opinions are not valid. Only people who deal with shit can talk and ship. And their ships are valid. LOL

I think you didn’t realize, but the cast members don’t hate anyone. It’s horrible you felt that way, but they don’t hate you. But you, who deal with your mental problems should understand that they were harassed by fanatic shippers for months and have had enough. And they sang a song about two women being friends. Did they say sc sucks? No. Did they say you should not ship them? No. Did they say you suck? No. Think about it. If you feel hurt by my fic, then think about the cast members that had to read gross shit that was post about them and if you really loved them, think about how they felt.

And seriously - I kind of get what you wanted to say, I kind of know what you feel but I don’t give a CRAP. Why? Because the amount of shit I see from your fandom makes me want to throw up, makes my anxiety worse, wants me to put bleach into my eyes. I understand that you want to be a part of cute, amazing fandom that is nice and cool and wahtever, but it isn’t. Your fandom is a home for some of the worst abusive people I have met on tumblr. And no, not FEW. I guess, I should just ignore the haters, cheer for SC fandom and shut up, huh? Sorry, maybe in a different life.

But seriously, protect yourself, no one is going to do it for you. You mental health  is more important than reading a dumb crack fic and sending long ass message to a person you don’t even know.

[kittymaverick]

...I’m going to go on a very long spiel about societal sexual attitudes, communication and discussion thereof (or lack thereof), and fandom history and how that results in problematic ships and themes in fandom as well as the war against it currently in some fandoms, so buckle up. Now, historically, and by that I mean about a decade and a half ago when I was a wee preteen and was just joining fandom, in DMC fandom, spardacest or shipping of canonical characters were the ONLY ships that were acceptable, because back in those days, self-inserts and ocs were very, very frowned upon. The excuse haters used back in the day was that projecting yourself into a fictional universe was unhealthy and egocentric, and therefore every mary-sue should be shamed off the internet and seek psychological help. We’ve obviously stopped doing that in the English fandom sphere, in part because the old fandom hubs died while new ones established itself. Tumblr’s social justice leanings is in part how fandom in general started moving away from ships that portray unhealthy dynamics. Now here’s a thing I’ve observed: Tumblr and newer fandom hubs allowed for a lot of conversation surrounding what sexual or romantic or platonic relations and dynamics are unhealthy, particularly from survivor stories or cautionary tales. They’ve also grew up watching people teach others to fight back. And so the younger generation of fandom (I would say young millennial and younger) grew up reading these empowering stories WHILE participating and building their own fandom circle.

And thus, these younger fandom folks went into fandom knowing “some shit’s not okay irl, nope. In fact, we should fight those crappy things and make sure they never happen again”. In addition, since the boundary the self and the fictional universe have been permitted to blur with oc and self-insert fics... Well, this is where the push back is coming from, because there’s a demand now for fiction to reflect reality on a whole other level in comparison to before. And this is also where I observe a really, really strange phenomenon: Those of us who do a lot of R-18 oc/reader/self-insert fics, and several of whom are anti-incest, are very, VERY comfortable talking about our own sexuality and sexual desires.

As for spardacest shippers? I generally don’t hear a PEEP about sexual fantasies they have that involve themselves, and a large portion of that is because in the cultures that many of the spardacest shippers are coming from, sexual fantasies is a TABOO. And I mean taboo as in “you should be ashamed for even FEELING like you want sex” taboo, not “you can’t talk about it” taboo.

And so that’s the appeal of spardacest for some folks, because it’s within the “comfortable” option their society and environment has limited them to. 1. There is a sexual relationship involved 2. The sex act does not involve the person imagining it, and often have gender roles allows that person to distance themselves from the fictional folks involved 3. The sexual relation contains an element that would be universally wrong from a moral stand point, so the sex act would make one feel guilty, which is the emotion that sex SHOULD evoke (at least according to the shipper’s upbringing). Rewording into less words: It’s wrong, and that’s the point, because sex needs to feel wrong. (This is probably the psychological basis on which the fujoshi culture came about, maybe...) You could probably apply this to a lot of sexual fantasies that are problematic and need warning tags. For decades, and still happening in many parts of the world, sex and sexual pleasure is something that many assigned female at birth folks have been taught to shun and reject from their person. And that’s something younger fandom folks need to be aware of: y’all are living in a very, very lucky part of the internet and social environment where you can explore your sexual desires freely, while learning what should and shouldn’t be acceptable in relationships on the basis of respect and consent. Many people, some of them who might be the same age or younger, don’t and likely won’t anytime soon due to cultural reasons. So if anyone honestly wants to have less incest going on in fandom, you can try and give fandom folks an environment to explore and learn to be comfortable about having a sexuality. Be warned that their real life circumstances can dictate a lot what’s going on in people’s heads though, which isn’t something we can control.

Can i ask the dmc fandom this question please.

Why do half of you ship incest, like ive seen enough spardacest to make me sick, like why its disgusting and wrong, fictional or no you should never glorify incest and make it seem ok to do.

Ships for example. Also kind of spoilers for anyone who hasnt play the game (just incase)

Nero x v

Dante x vergil

Vergil x nero

Dante x nero

Dante x v

Like no, just fucking no. I know the saying is you can ship who ever you like but there has to be a fine line to who you can ship. This also goes to other fandoms ive seen do this type of weird crap.