#I wanted to add Kipps lucy or skull too

[monsterbananatv]

Which of my top four favourite characters am I the most like

Thanks for the tag @twinkle-toph ❤️

This was so hard wtf. Look I have so many faves and to first remember them all and then pick only four??? So hard. Also why are they all men? I clearly have a type lol

Anyways tagging @sexy-raccoons @hailqiqi @menina89 @poly-mechanisms and whoever else wants to join :)

[worldofkaeos]

Show versus books preferences:

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Warning: spoilers!!

Book preferences:

- Fairfax asking them for help. In the books, fairfax was the one who went to Lockwood and co about the Combe Carey Hall. This was due to his ulterior motive of wanting them killed so that they wouldn't expose him as the murderer of Annabel Ward. He knew that Lockwood and Co needed the money really badly, and would do anything to do get it, even if its a really dangerous task that had agents dying when doing the job before, and no canisters allowed. In the show, Lockwood and Co went to fairfax instead, which made the fairfax wanting to kill them thing seem a bit illogical, as anyone could have applied for that job.

- Lockwood and Lucy dressing up as tourists to infiltrate Winkman's! The show was just a last-minute thing with no solid plan, it just made them seem ridiculously stupid and reckless, considering how Winkman is like a killer.

- Skull's comment about Lockwood being Lucy's master haha

- In the show, Lucy made Lockwood apologise too much. And she didn't even apologise when she brought Annabel Ward's ghost back into their house by taking her necklace. It made their dynamic seem a bit one-sided.

- Lockwood visiting the village around Combe Carey Hall with the accent, and him being a detective about Fairfax. It showed that he was actually smart and was competent despite his recklessness. While in the show he just seemed like he never knew what he was doing and wasn't capable of making sound decisions.

- The screaming staircase part on the books were better, the screaming could kill, or it could disrupt your senses and brain enough that all you wanted to do was jump into the well and die. In the show, this part was rushed over very quickly, the screaming staircase didn't even seem threatening.

- Lockwood using his iron toy mobile on Annabel Ward

- All the other type ones in the combe carey house! made a perfect build-up for the main event, and also made it seem far scarier cos u can see the number of deaths that the ghosts of the Monks had caused

- George's power move at the catacomb in kensal green cemetry, where he faked death then wrestled with Joplin!

- the skull!! His sarcastic remarks are so funny, its a pity we didnt get to see it

- Lockwood and his sunglasses!

- Kipps being aged up. I didn't think the love triangle was necessary, it would make the later books seem a little weird.

- Joplin. Show joplin was almost like a pedophile

Show preferences:

- Lockwood with PINK socks!!

- I really like the bickerstaff house for this one, it was really scary, though i do like the book's one too.

- Lucy's more grounded. Her anger doesn't just dissolve when Lockwood smiles at her, like in the books, she gets won over so easily. She actually dared challenge some of his reckless behaviours, and I'm all in for married couple fighting vibe!!

- Lockwood cutting toast for Lucy

- Cameron's microexpressions really brought out Lockwood's character. In the books, everything was from Lucy's pov, and we couldn't read much into Lockwood cos all she notices is his smile and charm and what not. In the show, we can actually see him waver at times (at Winkman's, when Fairfax points a gun at him, there's more but I can't remember) , and him being really uncomfortable when Lucy tries to ask him why he wanted to sacrifice his life to let her live. And also the part where he broke down during the raid of the auction.

- Lockwood and Lucy's chemistry, would be perfect for the later books but still 🤌

- Lucy's backstory!

- The golden blade was cooler and more mysterious in the show!!

- omg, i really liked the fight scene in kensal green cemetery where Lockwood and Kipps' team fought the relicmen. It was so cool, the action and all, and them thinking that Lockwood had abandoned and tricked them only to see Lockwood open a crypt for ghosts to come out to kill the relicmen. It was such a cool scene that wasnt shown in the books!!

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That's it for now, folks. I'm pretty sure there's more, but it's late and my brain's not working so I'll add on when I think of more!

[delicatebluebirdruins]

the empty grave reread

Saturday 2nd Nov 2024

I love this opening line and the dread is still there about the Anthony Lockwood gallery

7 the Skull hated being called tame and for good reason

3rd Nov 2024

9 Marissa's funeral proceeding treating her as a queen (they mention it on page 32 lying in state for the 3 days?)

27 "lockwood's presence game me courage"

43 the group commiting the three sins of ghost hunting

47 hello Revenent

50 birds of a feather

60 ghost client whoop (I hope I am always this excited about it)

81 "I think, that we found greater peace and pleasure in each other than in anyone. That was the good news. The bad news? I wasn't quite sure why" hmmm I wonder you were already close already emotionally. Lockwood can be a bit emotionally blind but him icing you out in THB did play a role in your leaving a small one but still. You also walked through the realm of the dead together your bond was fractured many, many times in THB for so many reasons and it was reforged throughout TCS and now of course.

86 and 103 is just me finding new things to add to my revision cards

111 the epitaph on the Lockwood's grave "knowledge sets us free" meaning so many things like the ghosts trapped in the living realm and limbo. the parents in general being killed to prevent knowledge being set free. them revealing the truth to the world about Fittes and Rotwell

114 Hey it's the second empty grave! and this one will stay empty for a long, long time

116 Lockwood telling Lucy about his parents dying will be something Cameron Chapman would shine in

121 "In my experience, graveyards can be used for lots of activities, not just ghost-hunting" what is your experience Skull? (thought when writing this up 10/11/24 calm down Mary Shelly)

130 the history of the ghost they're dealing with is great "Or possibly Luton"

134 Lockwood saying they aren't weak is so funny

138 I love this description for Flo "She liked liquorice, George and Lockwood in a somewhat unclear order"

141 bless Holly's existence "she remained impeccably polite"

142 "if you hung a uniform on a section of concrete pipe leaning against an outhouse wall the result would have possessed more intellectual zip"

157 Lucy mistakenly going after Sarah is so funny because she is the reason the Belle Dame is loose

169 Sweet sister Mary

173 bi Lucy? going with it

186 jealous Lucy protecting Lockwood

189 "It had tried to take Lockwood from me"

+ 190 "intelligience and recognition - and something more than that" i wonder what that is? Lockwood POV please and thank you

+ 199 "I hate trapezes" is there a deleted scene somewhere in Strouds notes of Lucy learning how to use a trapeze?

196 What were his thoughts with who did this? intitally I mean?

205 Poor Adam Bunchurch

209 Barnes I love you very much

214 Barnes warning them is so nice

220 we have a name for our ghost client Dr Neil Clarke

225 I want a jammie dodger now

230 I love the Skull

4th November

245 Possessive Skull "hey, fish-face find your own human"

250 Lockwood wanting to kill Sir Rupert Gale... I'd help. Also I hate how he kind of hinted at something happening to George "not off being naughty in some library again?"

253 God bless Jake the cabbie

266 Lucy is small and full of rage

269 I love Kipps "we might have to duff up a few pensioners" and Holly "there'll be some duffing up going on right now if you don't start filling us in"

282 "We could feel an abyss opening beneath ou feet"

284 I wonder what Dark London is?

296 Lavender acid? at least it smells nice

303 the idea that we may never get this scene Lockwood frozen in the midst of chaos is a crime I may never recover from

307 and there it is the truth of the Problem

317 this world has bazookas?

331 "They're here to be used. And I believe my sister would want use to use her room too. She'd want to help us escape"

335 Ezekiel is a prat

345 Lucy being miffed at Lockwood seemingly enjoying this chaos but the chaos is exposing the truth... Winkman we were so close to a moment here

353 Holly is gay

361 Good Old Esmeralda

363 What was the message George

364 Middle names are fun

372 vengeful chicken lmao but also poor Kipps

385 Oh Skull really? Lucy where would someone who works for Fittes take a Source?

389 Seriously who are you hat man?

391 Why are you doing so well Kipps?

398 Flo backstory! imagine how upset Lucy would be if she learned this in the run to Aickmeres? because Flo was part of a three person agency and she was the last one standing?

409 first sighting of Marissa and Ezekiel

415 the conversation with the Skull is great

420 Poor Kipps (Jack would kill this scene so would Ruby and the others when they go back to our world)

430 Lockwood sacrificing his coat :(

433 sticky fingers George and wolf like smile from Lockwood (in AU we could have these two meet as George is a pickpocket/thief and Lockwood sees him in the act)

437 "they were all stocky and muscular, their shaven heads like small boulders on which rudimentary faces had been drawn" this happens a few times with Lucy the way she see's large groups of "others". (And it will be something I pay attention to next time I reread as I know I am missing some) She describes them as all being from the same mould stripping them of their personhood as they are all caught up in the machine of Fittes (and Rotwell her description of the group selling hot chestnuts in the first book) in this case it works because this group is not a group made up of people it's a group like Winkman's thugs because all they know is following orders without question and I don't know where I'm going with this but something something dehumanisation I guess?

438 "That bloodthirsty young harpy" compliments!

457 Marissa being similar to Belle Dame

466 This is so spooky like the body of Penelope Fittes, her face but also the face of Marissa

474 killing the tension here Skull

Final Day 5th November 2024

480 that was a good summary Lucy

487 I love the Skull protecting them

489 Suck it Ezekiel

490 cat behaviour for sure

501 Lockwood and Lucy going downstairs arm in arm

519 healing Portland Row and themselves

525 what was the doodle

529 a glimmer of green from the Skull and of course the necklace

and there we have it the final book reread I love this book (the ranking would look like TEG/THB closely followed by TCS and then the first two way down in the rankings... I will die on the hill of them being combined was the best thing they could do in a adaptation)

[brainrotallthewaydown1312]

I've just finished The Whispering Skull and I have feelings

I'm going to put a spoiler cut here for anyone who hasn't read the books yet, fair warning this will probably get a bit long

I have very complex feelings about the way the end came together.

I stand by what I said before. Pamela Joplin was worlds more developed than Albert Joplin. the way things fell together at the end, largely being BBC sherlock-ed together felt very flat compared to the way it snapped into place in the show.

I also like the final fight for the glass better in the show. I like Lucy using the skull and I like where that could have gone for the skulls development. I also like the Lucy and George moments during the bone glass scene in the show better. there was still a sense in the book that they were really coming together in this scene, but that part of it didn't hit as hard and I really like that aspect of it.

I did, however love how George beat the glass. as a fellow blind as a bat bitch I love a solid use of glasses like that. it's definitely something that George would have thought of and definitely something that could have worked. it has less narrative weight moving forward but I do love it. i also liked his fake out death. it really hit me in the gut.

Kipps role in the ending of the book strikes me as odd. he was more present for the whole scene, and both heard Lucy confessing about the skull and he also would have heard Lucy's side of the conversation she had with it during the fight. he also has no reason to keep his lack of talent a secret because it's already known. he just fully knows about Lucy and the only thing keeping him from mentioning it is the thin thread of mutual respect from surviving the bone glass together. I see how this leads into the development I've been told about where he joins the team, but it feels more like a loose end than it should. I like in the way the show did that better. it also builds towards him joining, but it brings in a more emotionally complex aspect to the start of that arc. and I like the fact that it consequently makes them closer in age. I think aging Lockwood's team up a little and Kipps down a little was a very good decision. it puts them on a more even playing field that fits them better in my opinion.

my broadest conclusion at the end of book 2 (and I'm guessing my hottest take) is that I have found the biggest weakness in the writing of this story. it's that we are limited to Lucy's pov. these books would have been much better in third person. don't get me wrong, I love Lucy (most of the time) but she is only rarely the most narratively interesting character, and too much is happening without us. I get what Stroud is going for with it. and I think he succeeded at what he was going for. I just have so many things I want to have seen that Lucy would have simply not been there for. not even just things from the show like Lockwood's cemetary fight or flo and George on the boat, but things about what Lockwood is doing literally ever or details about kipps' team watching them. and I think some of them being missing add to the mystery of the series, but plenty of these things would have added to it. and i almost always prefer first person. I just think that this story choosing it with Lucy specifically has taken away some potential narrative value from things

it may not sound it from my thoughts I've been posting, but I am loving these books. i am still creating my own franken canon in my head as I go like I was before, but the books are growing on me. I just show my literary love through intense analysis and critique. can you guess which character I'm most like?

I can't wait to start the next book

[neufer]

My thoughts after rereading TWS

Currently on a reread and just finished The Whispering Skull! Once again, here are my many, many thoughts + just stuff that stuck out to me (another long post, of course). PS - I love this book a lot more than I thought I did.

1. Right away, this book is chuck full of humor, sass, snide remarks, and sarcasm -even more so than TSS and I absolutely love it.

- “Fittes agents,” I said. “Oh great,” George growled. “I think I preferred the Wraiths.”

- Lockwood shook his head. “No, I’d always be tripping over him, or losing him down the back of the sofa.” (In regards to Bobby Vernon).

- “I had to speak out,” George said. “Sorry. It was either that or punch him, and I’ve got sensitive hands.”

- ‘George groaned audibly. “We’ve had near-death experiences,” he muttered, “we’ve had domestic fights, we’ve had a pitiful amount of sleep. But this is going to drive me over the edge. If I leap on the table and start shrieking, don’t try to stop me. Just let me howl.”’

- “Sorry, can you repeat that? It’s those shorts. I couldn’t concentrate on what you were saying.” (Might I add, this was George’s response to Lockwood being mad at him).

- “If there’s one thing more stressful than being attacked by ravenous ghost-rats, it’s finding that you’re going to a fancy party and you haven’t got a thing to wear.” Lucy only speaks the truth.

- “Sure you’ve got your shirt tucked in, George?” “Quit worrying. I even brushed my teeth as well.” “My God, you have made an effort.”

2. Speaking of humor, sarcasm, etc., we get the Skull and Flo in this book!! They’re both such great additions, and I had a lovely time picking out some of their best moments/mentions.

- First, I love how after not saying anything for seven months, the Skull leads with, “Feeling rough?. . . Because you sure as hell look it.”

- He is SO dramatic too. “Bickerstaff? No. That wasn’t the way it happened at all.” “How can you know?” “Very simple. I was there.” 

- “I saw [Flo] chuck an agent into the river once. Just lifted her up by the leg and tossed her in. Flo was in a good mood that day too, as it happens. But she’ll like you, I’m almost sure. Just don’t say too much, and stay out of stabbing distance.” Flo❤️.

3. Lucy’s clear (even though not to her) attraction to Lockwood is definitely more noticeable, to us and to other characters as well.

- ‘I stole a quick sidelong glance at him now. He was standing with his sword held ready: tall, slim, as nonchalant as ever, watching the slow approach of the second Visitor. The lantern light played on his thin, pale face, catching the elegant outline of his nose, and his flop of ruffled hair. He wore that slight half-smile he reserved for dangerous situations: the kind of smile that suggests complete command. His coat flapped slightly in the night breeze. As usual, just looking at him gave me confidence.’ Lucy, honey, come on. This is like, 3 pages in btw.

- ‘His face was serene, his hair glistened; his eyes shone with dark intent. I watched him from the door. “Yes, I’ll have a slice, thanks,” George said. “If you can tear yourself away.”’

- ‘I had a fluttery feeling in my tummy and my legs felt weak. It was probably the late night catching up with me.’ Haha. Hahaha.

- ‘George gave a skeptical snort. “Oh, come on. You love all that mystery about him. Just like you love that pensive, far-off look he does sometimes, as if he’s brooding about important matters, or contemplating a tricky bowel movement. Don’t try to deny it. I know.”’

- The whole necklace for the Fittes party is so them just being cute little teenagers and I love it. Lockwood being so casual about it (“Just something I had” my ass) and Lucy not even comprehending what’s happening? And then not wanting to take it off later when they crash the auction? Beautiful.

- And of course, them holding hands as they jump into the Thames🥰.

4. Once again, the side characters fall victim to Lucy’s brutal/outrageous descriptions.

- ‘Being diplomatic, I’d say Kipps was a slightly built young man in his early twenties, with close-cut reddish hair and a narrow, freckled face. Being undiplomatic (but more precise), I’d say he’s a pint-sized, pug-nosed, carrot-topped inadequate with a chip the size of Big Ben on his weedy shoulder. A sneer on legs. A malevolent buffoon.’

- [Kat Godwin] was good-looking, though her jaw was a bit too sharp. If she’d repeatedly fallen over while crossing soft ground, you could have sown a crop of beans in the chin holes she left behind.’

- ‘[Barnes’s] face was as lived-in as ever, his pouchy eyes still sharply appraising. As usual, though, it was his impressive mustache that attracted my attention. To me, Barnes’s mustache closely resembled some kind of hairy exotic caterpillar, probably from the forests of Sumatra, and certainly previously unknown to science. It had a life of its own, rippling and ruffling in accordance with its owner’s mood.’

5. Jack Carver dying on their entryway floor is truly the kind of thing that could only happen to Lockwood & Co. We get so many good lines from that one scene, but the best has to be ‘George sat back with a cry. “Juice! He wants juice! Can we give him that? Are we allowed to give him juice?” He hesitated, frowning. “Have we actually got any?”’ (And of course the one about the dodgy tattoos).

6. I can’t think of a good word to describe Lockwood as a preface for these quotes, but I think you’ll get the idea.

-  ‘“Who knows? Maybe it’s my natural style he envies, maybe my boyish charm. Perhaps it’s my setup here -having my own agency, no one to answer to, with fine companions at my side.” He caught my eye and smiled.’

- “Well, it’s that time of the afternoon. I’m going to stick a sword into a straw woman.”

- “Hardly. It was only because I could already see that you saw who I was that I stopped myself driving the pommel of your own sword sharply back into your abdomen using the Baedecker-Flynn reverse-strike maneuver. Lucky for you that I did, and so didn’t.” 🤦‍♀️

- “Just a quick look, and then we’re done. Burglary’s more fun than socializing, I always say.”

- “Well, if you judge success by the number of enemies you make, that was a highly successful evening.” One of my all time favorite lines.

7. On the other hand, Lockwood is also just such a good leader/hero character. It’s called balance, okay? I love him.

- The first time I noted this was when he sticks up for the annoying night-watch kid. This moment also proves what a badass he is (and Lucy). “Then [Shaw] turned and punched Lockwood hard in the side of the face -or tried to, because Lockwood swayed back and dodged the blow. Shaw’s momentum carried him forward; Lockwood took hold of his flailing arm and twisted it sharply to the side and back. At the same time he stuck his boot behind one of Shaw’s ankles. Shaw cried out, lost his balance, tripped over his own feet and fell. . . Shaw’s face flushed purple; he instantly sought to rise, but he found the point of my rapier gently resting against his chest.”

- And of course we have to talk about the whole, ‘“The entrance stairs are locked, and I’ve shut off the catafalque mechanism from below. No one can get down, unless they want to jump twenty feet into a pitch-black hole. And who would be prepared to do that?” There was one person I knew who might.’ Because yeah. Lockwood IS that person. This isn’t him being reckless and throwing himself into danger for unhealthy reasons, this is him being prepared to do whatever it takes to help his friends.

- Furthermore: “[Joplin] pointed the gun at me. A polite cough sounded beside us. I looked up; Joplin turned. Anthony Lockwood stood there. He was covered in grave dust, and there were cobwebs on his collar and in his hair. His trousers were torn at the knees, his fingers bleeding. He’d looked neater in his time, but I can’t say he’d ever looked better to me.”

8. On a similar note, it’s time to examine just a couple of the Lucy Carlyle Badass Moments in this book.

- First up is throwing her rapier like a javelin to save George and Joplin from Bickerstaff’s ghost. Iconic, certified Badass moment.

- And then there’s of course fighting off Bickerstaff’s ghost AGAIN, this time by swinging an iron chain. Listen, when the chips are down and I’ve got my back against the wall, I want Lucy on my team because she’ll for sure get me out of it. “I ran toward Kipps, toward the ghost. As I did so, I bent down and grabbed one of the lengths of iron chain that had been scattered by Joplins fall. I picked it up, went on without breaking stride. Even as I reached the chair, I was already swinging it in front of me. I met the ghost of Dr. Bickerstaff head on.” Um? Hell yeah. If you look up the word ‘badass’ in the dictionary you’ll see a picture of Lucy fucking Carlyle.

9. Don’t think I’m leaving George out of this conversation. George really is That Bitch there at the end, pretending to die and then ‘coming back’ with the element of surprise. Truly one of his more iconic moments. And I LOVE “At that distance, I’m totally blind. I couldn’t see a thing.”

10. This book has more hurt/angst than I remembered. A lot of it stems from George fighting the influence of the bone-glass, and then the subsequent tension between him and Lockwood whenever Lockwood blames him for not prioritizing the right things. The tension between Lucy and Lockwood in terms of Lockwood being too secretive is also very real. I wanted to highlight a few excerpts that I think show the angst very well.

- “George had been very subdued for the past few minutes. He had barely spoken, and there was an odd expression on his face. His eyes showed numb distress, but they also held a yearning, far-off look; he kept gazing back toward the pit as if he thought he had left something there. It worried me.”

- ‘“All I’m saying,” I said, “is that it’s not right the way he keeps everything to himself. I mean, we’re his friends, aren’t we? He should open up to us. It makes me think that-” “Think what, Lucy?” I spun around. Lockwood was at the door.’ I swear my heart drops every time I read this.

- “Sometimes, George, we have to act on the spur of the moment. Life’s not all fiddling around with ghost-jars and paperwork.” “Listen, I’m in the front line too,” George growled. “Who was it that got a face full of that haunted mirror the other night? I can still feel the effects now. It’s like something’s tugging on my mind, calling to me. I reckon I wasn’t far from meeting the same end as that relic-man we found, and that’s not a nice sensation.” 💔

- “Funny how an actual death always hits you so hard. Visitors are scarier, sure, but they don’t have quite that power to shock. Lockwood seemed as cool and in control as ever, though. Maybe deaths didn’t have the same effect on him.” Gee, Stroud. I wonder if you could be alluding to something there. Ouch.

11. This is angst too, but I wanted to talk about it by itself: “Always, when you’re alone and vulnerable, emotions seek to undermine you. Mine went haywire now. I thought of Lockwood, fighting for his life upstairs. I thought of George -and the haunted, yearning expression on his face after glancing at the mirror five nights before. I thought about how easily everything I cared about could be destroyed.” Talk about heartbreaking. This one sentence speaks volumes when you think of what happens in THB and just hits so much harder when rereading the series. 

12. And to remedy the hurt/angst, here is the trio being their own little found family and some moments that may be a little sad but at the same time sweet😭.

- The moment when Lucy talks about her and Lockwood protecting George in the Bickerstaff house always gets me. “George had become subdued. He moved slowly and spoke little, passing up several cast-iron opportunities for sarcastic or insulting remarks, which, frankly, was unlike him. . . Subtly, without drawing attention to ourselves, Lockwood and I moved so that George was between us. We protected him on both sides.” I know they’re also just being good agents here but, ugh❤️.

- Something else that always gets me is Lucy and George at the end. They really went from not being able to stand each other to being loyal friends. And when George comes to after being knocked out? And then it’s “I’m so angry with you I could burst.” “I know. I’m really sorry.” and “If you do this George Cubbins, I’m going to be so mad.”?? Yeah, that did me in. 

13. A few other things that I noticed that didn’t really relate to anything else:

- “[The Winkmans] had owned the place for twenty years, since their predecessor had been accidentally crushed beneath a piece of Indian erotic statuary.” I truly had never noticed this tidbit of backstory before. I’ve been enlightened. 

- Whoever designed the Black Library did a great job because it sounds like that room absolutely fucks. “The Black Library of Fittes House proved to be a vast octagonal room, rising the height of two full floors toward a glass dome in the roof. . . The walls were bookshelves, tier upon tier, with a metal balcony running around them at first-floor height. In two places, spiral staircases descended from this to the ground level, where we stood. The floor was made of wooden tiles, mostly of dark mahogany; but in the center, a design in paler woods depicted a rearing silver unicorn.”

- I know he probably only had it because it was the only drink being served at the Fittes party, but I will forever think of Barnes as a cocktail man from now on.

14. Lastly, Stroud really loves a cliffhanger, doesn’t he? I will give credit where credit is due. Revealing the Skull can talk to Lucy was pretty good, but he really stepped it up with the dead sister reveal.

Onto THB❤️.

[carlyleandco]

Things I still ponder

- Skull’s backstory and name

- Is the Problem dwindling and can it really ever be solved? Lucy does imply in the Screaming Staircase that ghostly encounters existed well before the Problem so perhaps agencies will never stop being used

- Kent, which is continually throughout the series stated where the Problem began and therefore, where Marissa first most likely made a gate to the Other Side. Will that need to be investigated?

- Response of British public to the events that transpired at Fittes House and effect on society, particularly on the lives of children

- Future of agencies and Lockwood and Co specifically 

- Lucy’s implied continual journeying to the Other Side with Barnes’ team

- Is the Skull really still around or has he permanently departed?

- Holly’s girlfriend and their relationship/past

- Gravedigger Sykes

- Fate of Kate Godwin and Bobby Vernon (I really miss them, okay?)

-The Fetch. This ghost just freaked me out and I really wanted closure as to what it truly was. Obviously, we know it’s a categorised as a ‘Fetch’, but it held a full conversation with Lucy, does that mean it is a Type Three?

-When someone travels to the Other Side, ghostly mimics of oneself manifest in the real world. Did anyone see Lucy, Lockwood, George, Holly and Kipps as they journeyed to Fittes House?

-Was the ‘gift’ Marissa mentioned regarding Lucy something more than simply her incredible and uncontested Listening skills? Idk, maybe I read too much into that scene

Anyone have anything else to add?

[ada17h]

*deep breath*

you are in my brain, apperently. but you are much better with words. skull is super relatable, at least for me, cuz there was a time where i just didnt talk because people didnt like it. but thats not the point. the point is that skull has additude with lucy because he can finally act like himself. when they are in the catacombs in the second book and hes trying to get bickerstaffs attention, that was really sad to me because he admired him so much and did so much for him but got nothing from it. it was a completely one sided relationship. and i think lucy understands this. i think she knows what its like to be shut down. i know what its like, i understand it completely even though stroud isnt specific about things. thats one reason i love these book so much is because its just feelings that are hard to describe. ok ive gone away from my point. point is, skull was just excited to finally be able to be himself and talk and voice his opinions but everyone (but lucy, i think) hated him still. like, him saying he wants to kill lockwood or holly or george or kipps because after all this time people still dont like the kind of person he is. he never says he wants to kill lucy. he saves her quite a few times too. because he can talk to her. because while everyone says hes horrible and evil and stuff its kinda clear that him and lucy being mean to each other is more in a sarcastic way than actually being hurtful. i will probobly add more, i just love this skull boy so much

Since the Skull is one of those characters whose past we never found out. I decided to come up with a few theories myself. 💀💀💀

We know that he was a servant of the Bikerstaff and lived in the 19th century. From Lucy's description, we also understand how he looked as a thin and rangy youth with spiky hair and he wore a shirt and short trousers. Since at that time in England there were workhouses where the lowest strata of society lived. I can assume that before meeting with Bikerstaff, he was an orphan and was there. Since in one of the conversations with Lucy, he mentioned that no one loved him, this means that he did not have a family. I also believe that was thin because he ate very little, which is typical for workhouses. And finally, I think that in the workhouse he said that he saw ghosts because I think he had the same strong gift as Marissa and Lucy, so the people considered him a psycho and sent him to the hospital where he met a doctor or Bikerstaff just heard rumors about a boy who sees ghosts and decided to pick him up.

by the way, perhaps that is why he doesn't like Lockwood so much, because it reminds him of those gentlemen who had absolutely everything and attended various balls and events while he had to fight for his life, because there was hunger, illness and greedy people all around who were looking for profit in everything. he also suffered from severe loneliness, he never knew true friendship when he was alive.

[monsterbananatv]

Things from Lockwood and co because I can part 4:

Episode 7

“Oh, Jesus. Look at the smile on him”

George being left out again

Flo telling Lucy to be careful cause there is a lot worse then ghosts

The other agent trying to help them

The barrels…

Lockwood, back again with his death wish

The scene in the warehouse. Damn the emotions in there…

“Nothing good comes from letting people in. Everything ends and everyone leaves.”

Georgie

The horrid buzzing noise

Those poor children

Oh no Lockwood!

Lockwood grabbing Lucy’s hand as they run away

The agents helping them in exchange for his life

Lockwood’s panic attack

Lucy taking charge and pulling Lockwood around

“What did he die for?” “It’s because they’re bastards.” “It’s because I am”

The whole scene where Lucy’s trying to snap Lockwood out of it. He’s holding onto her for dear life but he’s also holding her so gently too

Flo being the only one who sees something is wrong with George

George drawing his rapier on Flo, and the birds snapping him out of it

The fight with the Golden Blade

What does he know???

The fact that Winkman already knew the guy was an agent, so it wasn’t Lockwood’s fault

Get him Lucy!

Its like a bad game of football they’re playing tossing the bone glass around

The fact that pink socks wearing Lockwood is wearing blue socks. We all know whose colour blue is…

Them jumping off the roof into the Thames

Flo inviting George to go bird watching

George calling out to her to say that he wants to do it

Lockwood and Lucy crawling out of the water and you think they might have a moment, but Lucy just shoves Lockwood away (on beat with the song I might add) and storms off

George being mesmerized by the mirror and not giving it to DEPRAC

Episode 8

Lucy being mad at Lockwood because his suicidal tendencies put all of them in danger again

The scene where she’s yelling at him and he just stands there

The scene of both of them after, Lucy looking at the necklace and Lockwood getting dressed. I like that because Lucy looks at the necklace but doesn’t put it on because she’s mad at Lockwood, but she doesn’t throw it away either, and instead of putting on comfy clothes, we see Lockwood putting on his regular get up, his armour, because he’s not sure how Lucy’s gonna react to him

Lockwood apologizing

“I just wanted to say, don’t give up on us. Please. Or what I really should say is don’t give up on me”

“To be honest the bottom of the Thames used to be a far more appealing place to be. And really no one would have cared, but now…”

Now he has something, someone to live for. People who care (I’m fine I’m fine totally fine)

The two of them finally realizing that something is wrong with George and finding all the spirals

George feeling left out by being left behind to do the dorky stuff

Joplin weirding me out

The skull calling Lockwood and Lucy a happy couple

Lucy and Lockwood both blaming themselves for what’s happening

Both doing anything they can to save George, even if it means going in with some measly salt bombs

“but if anything’s worth dying for…” (George. George is worth dying for)

Them realizing how wrapped up they were in each other that they didn’t stop to help George

Kipps is losing his talent

Joplin basically kidnapping Kipps

“You couldn’t resist. Nor could he. Who knows what he might see. Mummy and daddy maybe” SKULL WHAT DO YOU KNOW

“I need you to be the right amount of reckless”

“Let’s draw our swords and kick in the doors like we’re cool and really know what we’re doing”

Lockwood and Lucy working with Kipps crew

“Just reckless enough, okay”

“What’s the secret weapon?” “She is”

Lockwood complimenting Kipps crew

“And I’m Anthony bloody Lockwood”

“This isn’t a park, it’s a graveyard” “Then let’s bury them.”

The fight between them and the relic-men

George figuring out that Joplin isn’t what she seems and what she’s planning to do

The fact that Joplin was gonna use George to look in the mirror

The knife being the twin to the one in Carvers back

Personal space Joplin, jeez

“That bastard had a plan” “A suicidal one” “That tends to be a feature of all my best plans”

“To save my friends… and Kipps”

Oh George… (My heart… they care about you George, I swear. They need you)

“You’re not a third wheel or an oddball or whatever it is that you think you are. You’re the best of us”

“We are not losing you Georgie” He’s their family. Hers and Lockwoods (I’m fine. Totally fine)

Lucy sacrificing herself to save George

The golden blade. WHO IS HE. WHAT DOES HE KNOW.

Pfffft the blade pulling out a gun (this is just so funny to me)

(Twice I’ve shouted at the screen when he pulled out a gun “you don’t bring a gun to a knife fight!”)

“And whatever happens, this wasn’t your fault” She doesn’t George to blame himself like she blames herself for what happened to Norrie and the others

Lucy using the skull to look in the mirror instead of herself

The images before Lucy passed out. One of them was Lockwood… why?

The glass being a trap. A trap for what????

George breaking the mirror (Go my boy!)

The mirror vaporizing Joplin and the ghosts trapped in it finally being set free

“I’m sorry about everything Luce” “So am I”

Get him Lockwood

“Fought off a load of thugs, fell down a catafalque hole, battles a bunch of ghosts. You know usual sort of thing. Oh, and I got shot”

The way they both run to Lockwood to support him, because he’s not dying on their watch

“You’re not done. Don’t say that. This is t how you die. “How do you know? “Because we won’t let you”

How gently Lucy is holding Lockwood on the way back up

Kipps being a wonderful optimist and great bringer of encouraging speeches (/s)

“Just reckless enough”

Lockwood not holding Kipps to the bet because it was the right thing to do

Both of them supporting Lockwood as they walk away (Family <3)

“Ugh this is so touchy feely”

I was right to not trust Penelope

Lucy saying she thinks she’s starting to heal now

Just them as a family getting food and living life :)

“I was wrong about George. He didn’t hate my guts. He actually turned out to be a bit of a hero”

“Lockwood almost died a thousand times but I think he’s decided he’s better off alive” (My heart)

“Cause it’s incredibly rare. Both of you are”

Lockwood and Lucy’s smiles when they look at each other

Lockwood opening up

Lucy shoving a donut in George’s mouth to shut him up

Lockwood wanting to show them what’s in the room

“No more secrets”

THE MOST VILE CLIFFHANGER EVER

I needed a season 2 a week ago

Please Netflix