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artist-issues Ā· 9 months ago
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Hi! I've seen you comment a bit here and there about Pocahontas. This movie has had this quite messy reputation attached to it since it came out and hasn't been able to escape from it since then. Personally, I've always liked Pocahontas, but I do acknowledge that it has its glaring issues, especially when it comes to the context of what actually went down and Pocahontas's true story. I'm interested in reading your thoughts on the movie and what Disney could have done better regarding the whole "diversity" and historical accuracy thing. I genuinely believe Disney had the best of intentions when it came to the themes, message and depiction of Native American culture, but the execution unfortunately did not seem the most appropriate at times. What do you think?
I donā€™t know. I donā€™t have a settled opinion on Pocahontas. I will say I really enjoy it, and I think maybe the aesthetics of the movie are what appeal to me the most because itā€™s the one I want to have on in the background most often.
When you say ā€œwhat Disney couldā€™ve done better regarding the whole ā€˜diversityā€™ and historical accuracy thingā€ and ā€œdid not seem the most appropriate at times,ā€ I donā€™t know if I understand what you mean. I donā€™t know if I understand what anyone means when they say that.
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There are almost zero cold hard facts about the historical Pocahontas that EXPERTS agree on. Almost zero. So when people say ā€œoh no, it wasnā€™t historically accurate,ā€ itā€™s like, ā€œno, of course itā€™s not. Itā€™s a fairy tale based on a historical person that we know very little about to begin with.ā€ Seems like what theyā€™re mainly mad about is that Historical John Smithā€™s version of Historical Pocahontas saving him is the framework for the animated film, and we all generally agree that his version was fake. And people are mad about that?
Butā€¦why? If itā€™s already supposed to be a fairy tale loosely inspired by a historical person we know very little aboutā€¦I mean, nobody is furious with the Robin Hood stories and going ā€œhow dare you misrepresent Robin of Lockersley, 1160, and King Richard I!!ā€ Because we all know that theyā€™re stories loosely based onā€”anyway. You get my point. Why would you have beef about a fairy tale being based loosely? Moving on.
You can say ā€œbecause now generations of kids are growing up thinking thatā€™s the real story of Pocahontas!! What an outrage!ā€
ā€¦All right, well, then youā€™re doing a terrible job teaching your kids discernment as a parent. When kids Iā€™m responsible for watch a movie, I tell them ā€œitā€™s a movie. Itā€™s not real.ā€ If itā€™s a movie about historical events, I tell them, ā€œIf you want to know more about the real story, letā€™s learn about the real story.ā€ Itā€™s not on Disney to teach your kids that a fairy tale is a fairy tale, itā€™s on you.
Anyway, you get it. Moving on.
Thing is, the Pocahontas movieā€™s message is ā€œLove tries to understand, not to possess.ā€ Great message. Especially good when applied to the problem of prejudice.
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So then, they just shift the events, the character motivations, and the depictions around as needed, like they would any fairy tale in order to send that message in the best way. And because it is a fairy tale, not a documentary, great. Do it.
If Historical John Smithā€™s fake story makes that message more compelling, great. Use pieces of it. Why not? After all, they never claimed that this was the true, accurate history of colonization, the Anglo-Powhatan war, or John Smithā€™s interactions with Pocahontas. If they had made that claim, sure, letā€™s talk about historical accuracy. But they didnā€™t, so letā€™s not.
Thatā€™s all I had to say about the ā€œhistorical inaccuraciesā€ thing. Now letā€™s talk about ā€œrepresentation.ā€
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What is it that people have an issue with here? Did they really want Disney to animate hundreds of Powhatanā€™s people dying of disease? Did they want Disney to animate heads getting chopped off and women getting raped? Whatā€™s the argument? That Disney shouldā€™ve made the colonists the clear and undeniable villains, the monsters of history, and the Native Americans 100% pure and innocent, wronged victims?
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Theyā€™re not mad that Disney did a bad job representing Native Americans in a movie that was supposed to be a fairy tale. Theyā€™re mad that Disney didnā€™t represent Native Americans the way they wouldā€™ve.
Far as my eyes can see, people who call Pocahontas racist or misrepresentative just donā€™t want the story to be ā€œLove tries to understand, not to possess.ā€ They want the story to be ā€œWhite colonists were unredeemable racist monsters and sub-human tyrants who deserved to rot in hell, while the Native American people were entirely innocent victims who did nothing wrong.ā€™
The problem is thatā€™s just not a true, or even helpful message for any movie to have. Sorry. The statement I just typed out up there in bold is not a true or helpful statement. And thank God the Pocahontas movie didnā€™t make it.
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Thereā€™s nothing racist being said in the Pocahontas movie. There are depictions of the sin of racism in the Pocahontas movie. There is a difference. Characters in the Pocahontas movie talk and sing about each other as if the other people group is sub-human. That is a depiction of racism. But the message of the movie, and the way it treats Native Americans, is to treat them like human beings. Therefore, the message is not racist.
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In terms of who is good and who is bad, who is right and who is wrong, the movie very clearly shows that the Native American characters did not start the violence. The Native American characters did not want war. The Native American characters were willing to be friendly and willing to defend their land and each other. The Native American characters were the first to try and make peace with the colonist characters. And they were all (Kocoum included) entirely human characters. They were even the good-guy-coded characters, in the movieā€™s conflict. All of the Native American side characters are noticeably smarter, kinder, drawn more carefully, and are more heroic than the white characters. (When Thomas is thrown overboard the other white side characters leave him behind. In contrast, when Namonteck is shot the other Native American side characters rescue him immediately and fall back.) And, not a caricature among them. Meanwhile, Wiggins, Ben, and Lion are all drawn with exaggerated characteristics. The heroine is Pocahontas the Character, not John Smith the Character. So what is the issue you have?
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What people think is racist is the ā€œidealizationā€ of a Native American woman falling in loveā€”or, as they like to say nowā€”ā€œcommitting herself to a white colonist.ā€ But thatā€™s likeā€¦a gross oversimplification of the movie. John Smith (the character) committed himself right back to her, nobody wants to talk about that? Also, they low key didnā€™t commit themselves to each other at all costsā€”he tries to, at the end of the movie, stay with her or have her come with him, and she wonā€™t leave her home and her people?? So whatā€™s the argument?
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Not to mention, why is anyone even upset that the character Pocahontas falls in love with a white colonist character? Are you saying that this sort of thing would never happen? That a young woman whoā€™s people are embattled with and mistreated by invaders would never find one invader who comes to an understanding with her, and then they fall in love? Youā€™re mad because that would never happen? Incorrect. It happened all the time in history. It happens all the time in other stories you love, like West Side Story.
Who the heck cares if it didnā€™t happen exactly that way (even though maybe it did) with the historical Pocahontas? We already established that this wasnā€™t supposed to be a historically accurate retelling, it was supposed to be a loosely-based fairy tale. And the message ā€œLove tries to understand, not to possess,ā€ works perfectly with a fairy tale where the girl from one side of a racially-charged hate war understands and falls in love with a guy from the other side.
I mean people who talk about Pocahontas, the historical figure, with reverence and respect, all usually agree on one thing: she did help maintain some kind of peace between colonists and Native Americans. Whether or not you think the colonists shouldā€™ve even been there in the first place is beside the pointā€”sorry, but it is; they were there, now letā€™s deal with the reality.
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So when Disney makes a movie where the goal is to tell the message ā€œLove tries to understand, not to possess,ā€ and they have to be true to the universally-agreed-upon ā€œPocahontas probably helped bring some peaceā€¦ā€ in their fairy taleā€¦why on earth do you have a problem with Pocahontas the Character falling in love as a reason for bringing about that peace?
Itā€™s because you donā€™t find ā€œfalling in loveā€ to be anything other than demeaning for a woman. And itā€™s because you donā€™t want John Smith, or any white colonist character, to be depicted as human. You want them all to be unredeemable racist monsters.
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The goal is no longer to have movies that say what Pocahontas said. We donā€™t want movies where thereā€™s messy racism, but then it ends with attempts at peace and understanding. We want movies where thereā€™s entirely one-sided racism, and then revenge for that racism. Thatā€™s what we want. We want endless apologies and zero forgiveness.
And for better or worse, Pocahontas is not a movie about endless apologies and zero forgiveness.
IN CONCLUSION: 1. None of the ā€œyouā€ statements were directed at you, idiosyncraticrednebula. šŸ«”
2. Anyone who wants to teach me where Iā€™m wrong is welcome to, but you have to show your work, and you have to be consistent, you canā€™t just say ā€œlol imagine thinking Pocahontas isnā€™t racist. You are the problem.ā€ and then block me. šŸ™„ all right, well, you can, but all youā€™ll get out of it is an echo chamber.
3. If you want me to talk about the art, the storytelling, the quality of the movie outside of all this (and it should be outside of all this, because this was a fairy tale, not a historically accurate documentary) itā€™ll have to be in a different ask, and Iā€™m happy to.
4. Should Disney have made it more clear that this was a fairy tale, a stylized story based only loosely on historical events? ā€¦Yeah. Definitely shouldā€™ve done a Prince of Egypt-style title card or something. But they didnā€™tā€”so now show me why itā€™s racist or misrepresentative.
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gildeddlily Ā· 2 years ago
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talking ab old and new hyperfixations is why I'm here on this earth
so alr I'm always joking around ab how some shows and books and things changed me as a person since I was a kid and I thought why not? so yeah
1- first of all, the animated Robin Hood with the animales my sister always says that it was what made her a communist, and I can't stop myself from feeling the same. no alr if I have to be serious it probably is what made me hate rich people
2-then, the lord of the rings this is where I've become who I am. I used to watch it when I was sick (the fellowship of the ring part 2, always, cause the khazad dum scene was majestic and my favourite) but it was a tradition of my family to watch the whole triology every two or three months a(nd I was one of those annoying kids who learn the dialogues and talks with the characters). and it kind of set off my standards for films in the future (and ppl too, since I grew up having aragorn as an example of what a man should be so yeah kiss another man's head and cry ab his death and kill strange disgusting things the minute after like the alpha male you are)
3-mamma mia there's a reason why I listen to abba today, and it's because of my mother making me watch this film when I was like seven and rewatching it with me more than two times a year. i absolutely loved it even if I didn't understand some things, but singing those songs was my favourite hobby
4-wild child at the start of our mamma mia's dvd there was the advertisement of this film, and i secretly watched it (since my mom always talked bad ab it saying it was stupid) when I got a computer at like ten and and let's not talk ab how emma roberts was my second woman crush and it was awkward BUT I LOVED THAT FILM SO MUCH since my parents were sweet but a little old on this type of things it was refreshing to watch it
5-achilles crying on patroclus' body my parents bought me the Iliad when I was a kid (in Italy we start to study it in sixth grade so reading its general culture), it was prose but I absolutely loved it. there where draws of what it said, but maybe a little bit too realistic for a six years old- but the one page where there was Achilles trashing on the ground and pulling at his hair and hugging Patroclus' body was rude
6-reading harry potter's books my aunt gifted me the whole series (like a book every month) and I absolutely loved it. the reason why still today after years I remember everything is because I probably read every book at least five times. I didn't have a phone and I was like seven, so I didn't get any spoilers, and I straight up cried so many times (sirius's death, remus and dora's death, harry's death, the flashback of lily and james' death, fred's death and so many things) and I loved it. now it's rare for me to watch something without spoilers.
7-david bowie my first real queer representation my father is a little homophobic, the it's-ok-not-in-front-of-me kind but he absolutely loved david bowie. he made me listen to Hunky Dory when I was like five, and I was the kid in school that singed Changes and got bad looks but I really loved his voice. after years, in seventh grade I think, I rediscovered him and as confirmed queer person I quite obsessed on him. still thanking you dad!
8-avril lavigne ok this is alr still my father made me randomly listen to sk8er boy and I kind of obsessed on her? when I was like nine? it lasted a year or so, and I only listened to her but I loved Complicated's music video. I kinda hated Girlfriend since I was on my "i'm different from other girls" period, while I absolutely love it now that I'm a little older (and it shouldn't make sense but it does)
9-Bring Me to Life's music video and everything else still my dad. telling me it was a good one. I obsessed on the song, and the album, and Evanescence. stopped listening to them when my mother told me I was like my cousin (my millenial cousin that I hated and that loved evanescence as a teen) so I had to rediscover them at fourteen as a real angsty teen!! but still I was like ten and singing screaming wake me up inside in my room in my italian-ten-ys-english
10-kill bill still a kid, still traumatized, still loving it after almost ten years. I absolutely loved the first volume cause I liked the yellow outfit and the japanese school-girl and Uma Thurman is still today my love and O-Ren was so pretty. yeah the blood and the missing limbs but the women and the plot was so good. rewatching it after years made me realized how it influenced me and how I saw things and thought ab topics connected to violence
alr I'm done
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mariana-oconnor Ā· 3 years ago
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Movie star Bucky Barnes falls in love with his bodyguard, Clint Barton. ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
This one took me a while because, while I love the prompt, this isn't a dynamic I've ever really worked with before, so it took a while to wrangle my ideas into something I could actually write.
Also, although I kept it pretty lighthearted (I think), this one comes with some warnings:
Homophobia
Non-consensual outing as gay (prior to fic)
Homophobic hate crime
Canon-typical violence
Slight mention of extreme dieting and impossible body standards
If any of that stuff might cause you problems, you should probably avoid this fic.
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Buckyā€™s never going to get used to seeing twenty foot posters of himself, abs out and glistening, glaring at the camera like it slept with his boyfriend. It doesnā€™t help that the pictures are photoshopped to hell and back. His abs have never been that defined in his life, even after three months of steamed chicken and workouts. Heā€™s not sure that abs can be that defined without some sort of surgery.
The film isnā€™t asā€¦ gratuitous as the posters make it seem. Compared to the last few blockbusters heā€™s been involved in - there is no comparison. This film has heart, and he just hopes that it doesnā€™t flop like heā€™s afraid it will. It feels like a turning point, and not just because this is the first premiere heā€™s been to since the world found out heā€™s gay.
Itā€™s hard to be a leading man in Hollywood if youā€™re out. Itā€™s even harder when what youā€™re known for is playing action heroes who punch first, ask questions later.
He smiles for the cameras, answers a few questions with his best smile and optimistic look, but heā€™s always aware of the steady presence just at the edge of his vision. Clint has his serious face on today, aware that bodyguards are supposed to look the part. He says he channels Buckyā€™s trademark scowl, and he laughs when Bucky rolls his eyes. Itā€™s good to know that someone here is on his side, though. Especially after the threats.
ā€œWhat appealed to you about playing Robin Hood?ā€ the interviewer asks and Bucky rolls out his usual response. ā€œAnd how has coming out as gay affected your work?ā€
Bucky smiles through the urge to beat him to death with his own microphone. Itā€™s not a question he hasnā€™t heard before. Itā€™s been the main question on everyoneā€™s lips in every interview since the pictures surfaced online the day before the biggest convention in the country.
ā€œItā€™s been wild,ā€ he says, smiling as carefree a smile as he can. ā€œThe response from the fans has just been overwhelming. Iā€™ve had so much support. Iā€™m so grateful that my fans are so amazing and that theyā€™ve made this a positive experience for me. I canā€™t thank them enough and I want them to know that I love all of them.ā€
ā€œAnd are there any prospective love interests on the horizon? Weā€™ve heard that you and your co-star Brock Rumlow were getting pretty close on set.ā€
ā€œBrockā€™s a great guy,ā€ Bucky lies through his teeth. ā€œWorking with him on this film - he makes a great Prince John - has just been great. And Iā€™m glad for the opportunity to meet him. But I hate to disappoint, thereā€™s nothing romantic there.ā€ No chance for any friendship, either, after Bucky found out exactly who leaked those photographs. ā€œHeā€™s happy in his current relationship, and Iā€™m just happy to be living my life openly and with no more secrets.ā€
She says something more and then reels off into her outro for the interview, letting Bucky shuffle off to the next in line and more of the same questions.
There are kids with rainbow pins stretching out their notebooks for autographs and he signs them all, smiles and tries to say something to as many as he can. He never asked to be a role model to queer youth, but thatā€™s where he is.
His fingers and his cheeks ache by the time Clint rests a firm hand on his shoulder and starts to guide him further along again.
ā€œThat went pretty well,ā€ Bucky mutters to him, although he feels drained.
ā€œYouā€™re doing great,ā€ Clint tells him and gives a double thumbs up. ā€œAnd you look way hotter than Rumlow.ā€ He winks.
Sometimes Clint says something like that and Buckyā€™s mind takes a detour down roads he should have blocked off years ago.
ā€œBarnes!ā€ Rumlow calls out, and Bucky canā€™t let the spike of annoyance show on his face, not with the camera flashes and camera phones all around him.
ā€œBrock,ā€ he says with the broadest smile he can manage.
ā€œLetā€™s get a few of us together,ā€ Brock says, and steps towards Bucky, stopped only by Clint turning into the way, a bland smile. He looks Clint up and down. ā€œYour guard dogā€™s a bit eager today. Call him off.ā€
ā€œItā€™s fine, Clint,ā€ Bucky says. He knew this was coming anyway. Brockā€™s a jackass, but heā€™s a fan favourite. Photos of the two of them together, pretending to like each other, will be great for the film. So Bucky swings an arm around Brockā€™s neck before Brock can take control of the pose, and turns to the cameras with his best smile.
ā€œHowā€™ve you been?ā€ Brock asks. ā€œI heard you missed out on a spot in that new spy thriller going around.ā€
Bucky knows the film Brockā€™s talking about, he wouldnā€™t exactly call it a spy thriller. More a desperate love song to American firearms. Brockā€™s right, though, itā€™s exactly the kind of role that they usually tap him for and he hasnā€™t heard a thing. Bucky doesnā€™t know whether to be grateful or concerned.
ā€œIā€™m thinking I might go back to my roots,ā€ Bucky says, remembering the Best Supporting Actor Oscar that sits in his trophy cabinet. Everything had seemed so full of possibility back then, before heā€™d ended up in the action movie factory and scripts had slowly dwindled down to one liners between punching people in the face.
Robin Hood had been an attempt to move away from that. A costume drama, a script that was more than just fight scenes and explosions, an actual political statement. Now even thatā€™s a minefield.
ā€œYeah, probably best to stick to the roles youā€™re more suited for,ā€ Brock says, the smile never dropping from his face.
And there it is, the sting in the tail. People are going to say he shouldnā€™t be an action hero because heā€™s gay, because heā€™s not ā€˜manly enoughā€™ and theyā€™ll claim he canā€™t play straight enough with the lead actresses - that the romance canā€™t be believable - and he feels like he should prove them wrong. But heā€™s been trying to get out of that rut for years, but if he makes it out - he feels like heā€™ll be betraying everything by agreeing with the stereotypes.
ā€œMr Barnes,ā€ Clint says, ā€œWe should keep moving.ā€ his voice remarkably professional if you didnā€™t know it was his best impression of Buckyā€™s voice from The Final Death. He especially likes to quote Buckyā€™s most famous lines. Itā€™s very annoying.
But today it feels like a life raft in the middle of an ocean swarming with sharks, and Bucky takes it gratefully, letting Clint guide him out of the mess of people who all want their pound of flesh.
ā€œYouā€™re doing great,ā€ Clint mutters, in his own voice again. ā€œJust remember - No one can stop the Winter Soldier.ā€
Bucky glares at him, but mostly because thatā€™s what he does when Clint echoes his stupidest lines. It had used to feel like mockery, now it feels like friendship, like the two of them are in on some stupid joke together.
Bucky wants to walk right through and out the other side, but heā€™s not going to. His sister Beccaā€™s inside, waiting for him and-
The sound of smashing glass hits at the same time Clint slams into him. He knocks Bucky to the ground. Heā€™s saying something that Bucky canā€™t make out, and grabbing Bucky, half pushing, half pulling him over to the side - to cover, Bucky thinks numbly - staying between Bucky and the window, gun drawn.
ā€œIā€™ve got Barnes. I can only see one shooter. Can anyone confirm?ā€
Someone beyond the window is shouting slurs. Bucky catches a glimpse of a man being tacked to the ground by security guards before Clint pushes him back against the wall.
ā€œStay down!ā€ he hisses. Bucky tries to catch his breath. His brain still a mess, trying to piece things together because it doesnā€™t make sense. Heā€™s had death threats, but they werenā€™tā€¦ No one was going to pick up a gun and try to kill him. Heā€™s just an actor. He punches out stunt guys and makes terrible faces and says dumb one-liners in a voice that makes him sound like heā€™s been chewing gravel. Heā€™s not the kind of person someone shoots down in the street. And there are people out there - kids, who came here for him, and they're out there being shot at and-
ā€œIs everyone okay?ā€ he asks. Clint turns to him. ā€œIs everyone okay out there? Did anyone get hit?ā€ He twists and tries to look out of the window again, but Clint shoves him back.
ā€œStay down,ā€ Clint tells him. He looks more serious than Buckyā€™s ever seen him before, and thereā€™sā€¦ thereā€™s blood on his hand where itā€™s pinning Bucky against the wall. Bucky thinks itā€™s his for a second before he realises that thereā€™s no pain.
ā€œYouā€™re shot,ā€ he says.
ā€œIā€™m fine,ā€ Clint tells him.
ā€œYouā€™re bleeding,ā€ Bucky says, reaching for Clintā€™s jacket.
ā€œStop moving,ā€ Clint tells him. ā€œSeriously. Iā€™m fine. We need to wait for the all clear.ā€
ā€œWe need to stop you bleeding,ā€ Bucky counters, pulling back Clintā€™s jacket and wincing at the red spreading over the crisp white shirt. ā€œShit.ā€
ā€œItā€™s a graze,ā€ Clint says.
ā€œYou are not a medical professional.ā€
ā€œIā€™m wearing kevlar. Iā€™m fine. It didnā€™t hit anything important,ā€ Clint says.
ā€œYouā€™re important,ā€ Bucky points out and Clint blinks, staring at him like Buckyā€™s speaking in a different language.
ā€œLook, when we get the all clear, weā€™ll both get checked out by the paramedics, okay?ā€ Clint says, slowly.
Bucky lets out a long breath and nods.
ā€œFuck, Barnes. I know your careerā€™s in the toilet, but this is some fucking stunt,ā€ Rumlowā€™s voice bursts out.
Bucky pushes to his feet as Rumlow stalks across the atrium towards him, but Clintā€™s already there - then thereā€™s a blur of movement as Rumlow stumbles and twists, crashing headfirst into the wall.
ā€œYou need to be more careful, Mr Rumlow,ā€ Clint says. ā€œI mistook you for a second assailant.ā€
Rumlowā€™s nose is pouring blood, and probably broken and heā€™s swearing at Clint.
ā€œJust doing my job, Mr Rumlow,ā€ Clint says. ā€œSorry.ā€
Rumlow is pulled away by his own security team, who give Clint unpleasant glares, and Bucky steadies himself. His hands are shaking. Clint turns to reach for him.
ā€œNo one in the crowd seems to have been hurt,ā€ he says, and Bucky breathes a sigh of relief. He never wanted to put anyone in danger. ā€œAnd it looks like there was just one idiot with a gun out there, so weā€™re good.ā€
ā€œYouā€™re still bleeding,ā€ Bucky points out and Clint sighs, as though being reminded of the fact that heā€™s been shot is somehow tiresome.
ā€œI know, I know. Youā€™re a mother hen. Iā€™ll get it checked out. But you need to be, too. Youā€™re probably in shock.ā€
The EMTs find them and are very amused by the way they keep shoving each other forwards to be checked over.
Bucky tries not to stare as Clint strips off his jacket, shirt, kevlar vest, and undershirt so the EMTs can see the bullet wound. He seems unconcerned by the partial nudity as the nurse pronounces it a graze, more interested in giving Bucky a triumphant look.
Bucky tries to respond in as normal a manner as he can.
His phone is blowing up - his sister, his ma, Steve, Natasha. As soon as heā€™s sure that Clintā€™s not going to die and the EMT has pronounced him understandably shaken, but otherwise perfectly healthy, he steps to one side to call them back - his sister first, as sheā€™s around here somewhere - but he doesnā€™t let Clint out of his sight.
ā€œI donā€™t need hospital,ā€ Clint is protesting as Bucky's talking to Steve.
ā€œHang on a second,ā€ Bucky tells Steve, striding over. ā€œIf they say you should go to hospital, youā€™re going to the damn hospital.ā€ Clint looks at him.
ā€œItā€™s barely a scratch.ā€
ā€œItā€™s a bullet wound,ā€ Bucky tells him.
ā€œItā€™s a little bullet wound,ā€ Clint argues.
ā€œCan I come with him?ā€ Bucky asks, bypassing Clint altogether to speak to the EMT, who nods. He turns back to Clint.
ā€œWeā€™re going to the hospital,ā€ he says. He puts the phone back to his ear. ā€œSteve, Iā€™m gonna have to-ā€
ā€œI heard,ā€ Steve says. He sounds amused.
ā€œIs Clint being shot funny to you?ā€ Bucky asks.
ā€œNo,ā€ Steve says. ā€œJust the way you two bicker like an old married couple. You should offer to kiss it better, Buck.ā€
ā€œSteve-ā€ Bucky says.
ā€œJust go and hold his hand, you know you want to,ā€ Steve says, talking over Buckyā€™s protests. ā€œI'm just glad you're okay. Tell him I say thanks for saving your dumb ass.ā€ Bucky says something that makes the EMTā€™s eyebrows fly up their forehead and Clint laugh brightly, until he clutches his side in pain.
ā€œOkay, laughing is bad,ā€ Clint says, his face crumpling.
ā€œIdiot,ā€ Bucky mutters, slipping his phone back into his pocket. ā€œStop hurting yourself.ā€
ā€œIā€™m fine,ā€ Clint repeats. ā€œThis is nothing.ā€ He stretches out his torso and points to a puckered scar on his abs and Bucky tries valiantly to pay attention to what Clintā€™s saying and not the way every breath he takes makes his abs flex slightly. They look better than Bucky's ever do. ā€œThis one,ā€ Clint says, tapping the scar. ā€œI got stabbed by this woman with a crazy-ass curved knife. I was in surgery for three hours after she tried to rearrange my insides.ā€
ā€œHow is that supposed to make me feel better?ā€ Bucky asks. The EMTs start to lead them over to the ambulance.
ā€œIā€™m just telling you how hard it is to kill me,ā€ Clint says. ā€œSo you can stop worrying.ā€
ā€œIā€™m not worried,ā€ Bucky denies automatically. The EMT hides a cough behind her hand as she closes the ambulance doors behind them.
ā€œSure you arenā€™t,ā€ Clint tells him with a wink. ā€œI knew you liked me really.ā€
ā€œDo you know how much work it is to find a new bodyguard?ā€ Bucky asks. ā€œIf you get yourself killed there are all sorts of forms I have to fill out.ā€
ā€œYou have people to do that for you,ā€ Clint says. A smile is spreading across his face, which seems highly inappropriate to Bucky, although when has Clint ever been appropriate. ā€œYouā€™re worried. Because I got shot.ā€
ā€œMost people would consider that a reasonable response,ā€ Bucky points out, crossing his arms over his chest. ā€œSteve says thank you, Becca says you should ask for a raise, and my ma wants to hold a parade in your honour.ā€ Clint beams even more broadly.
ā€œI love parades,ā€ he says. ā€œCan there be fireworks?ā€ he looks a little spacey and Bucky turns to the EMT in the back with them.
ā€œI gave him some painkillers,ā€ he says, looking between them with poorly concealed amusement. ā€œHeā€™s probably going to be out of it for a while.ā€ Bucky breathes a sigh and feels the adrenaline draining away from him.
ā€œAw, you shouldnā€™t look sad,ā€ Clint tells him, reaching out a hand to pat him. ā€œYouā€™re awesome. Rumlowā€™s a dick. I canā€™t believe you ever fucked that guy.ā€
ā€œI-ā€ Bucky looks at the EMT who mimes locking their mouth and throwing away the key. His publicist is going to have a field day with the NDAs. ā€œClint.ā€
ā€œI mean, sure heā€™s hot, but heā€™s the worst,ā€ Clint says. ā€œAnd youā€™re Bucky Fucking Barnes, you could have anyone.ā€
ā€œClint,ā€ Bucky repeats. His head is starting to ache and he doesnā€™t have the energy for this right now.
ā€œYouā€™re awesome,ā€ Clint says again, with a slight urgency to it, like itā€™s important Bucky knows this.
ā€œIā€™m awesome,ā€ Bucky repeats, and Clint smiles bright and sunny, and then his head falls back and he lets out a massive snore. Bucky looks over at the EMT who gives a slightly helpless smile.
ā€œUhā€¦ā€ Bucky says.
ā€œNot going to say a word,ā€ the EMT says. ā€œMe and Stacey already had to sign NDAs to work the premiere tonight. We wonā€™t tell anyone about Brock Rumlow - or about you two.ā€ He waves a hand between Bucky and Clint. ā€œItā€™s cute.ā€
ā€œWeā€™re not-ā€ Bucky starts, and the guy grins.
ā€œHey, Iā€™m bi,ā€ he says. ā€œYou have any idea how cool it was when you came out. I meanā€¦ it was shitty that someone posted those pictures without your permission, but the fact you just owned it?ā€ Bucky feels uncomfortable at the sheer emotion on the guyā€™s face. He hadnā€™t ever meant to be that. Not to anyone. Heā€™s a shitty role model. He does dumb things like sleep with Brock Rumlow, and then get photographed with some guy hired by Brock Rumlow and plastered all over the news. He makes stupid films and never calls his ma andā€¦ Now thereā€™s some guy looking at him like he means something and Bucky doesnā€™t know what to say.
ā€œIā€™m glad I helped,ā€ he says. It feels insipid.
ā€œYou more than helped, and Iā€™m sorry some jackass tried to shoot you and shot your friend instead. Just because you were brave enough to be who you are.ā€
ā€œThanks,ā€ Bucky says.
ā€œSo Iā€™m not going to say a thing about you or your boyfriend,ā€ the guy says. ā€œYou deserve nice things, and he-ā€ the EMT points at Clint, who is still shirtless- ā€œis a nice thing.ā€
ā€œYeah,ā€ Bucky says, ā€œhe is.ā€
*
By the time the police are done with him, Steve and Becca have converged on the hospital like wolves and they are forced out of Clintā€™s room by the nurses who donā€™t care that two of them are movie stars, the patient needs to rest.
Beccaā€™s still in her premiere outfit, and Bucky feels horrible that she got all dressed up just to come to a hospital and sit on the uncomfortable plastic seats and drink terrible hospital coffee. But on the other hand, heā€™s glad sheā€™s here.
ā€œI canā€™t believe someone managed to get that close to you with a gun,ā€ Steveā€™s saying. ā€œThere are supposed to be security measures in place to stop that happening.ā€ Bucky pinches at his nose, trying to will away the headache thatā€™s still growing behind his eyes. He doesnā€™t want to think about that right now. He just wants to sleep, but he canā€™t sleep while Clintā€™s in the hospital and-
ā€œHow do you sack a guy who saved your life?ā€ he asks.
ā€œWhat?ā€ Steve says, his footsteps faltering.
ā€œHow do you sack a guy who saved your life?ā€ Bucky repeats.
ā€œWhy do you want to sack him?ā€ Becca asks. ā€œYou should be promoting him.ā€
ā€œBecause he wants to sleep with him,ā€ Steve says. Beccaā€™s eyes go wide.
ā€œYou are not allowed to break his heart,ā€ she says, glaring at him. ā€œDonā€™t you dare, James Barnes. Ma will kill you. If you sack him just so you can sleep with him after he saved your stupid life, I swear James Barnes-ā€
ā€œIā€™m not going to-ā€ Bucky draws in a breath. ā€œItā€™s justā€¦ I-ā€
ā€œHuh,ā€ Steve pulls out his phone.
ā€œWhat are you doing?ā€ Bucky asks.
ā€œTexting Sam, I owe him a hundred bucks. He said youā€™d figure it out this year.ā€
ā€œWere you betting on me and Clint?ā€ Bucky asks.
ā€œTechnically, I was betting against you,ā€ Steve says, not looking up from his phone. ā€œI didnā€™t think either of you would make a move.ā€
ā€œI canā€™t believe you,ā€ Bucky says, shaking his head. ā€œSo how do I do this?ā€
ā€œStart with the part where you want to bang him like a gong,ā€ Becca says.
ā€œThat would be sexual harassment,ā€ Steve interjects and Bucky takes a deep breath. ā€œHe canā€™t say that until after he sacks him.ā€
ā€œTrue,ā€ Becca says, tapping one finger against her lips. ā€œYou could always try a line from one of your movies.ā€ Bucky and Steve both look at her, incredulous. ā€œRight, too cheesy. You could-ā€
ā€œYou know what?ā€ Bucky says, cutting her off. ā€œIā€™m going to figure this out on my own.ā€
*
In the end, it isnā€™t Bucky who brings it up. He goes to visit Clint the next morning, coffee in hand and is greeted by a tense look and words that make him freeze in place.
ā€œIā€™m resigning,ā€ Clint says.
ā€œWhat?ā€ Bucky asks. ā€œWhy? You-ā€
ā€œIt has been brought to my attention that my behaviour yesterday was a littleā€¦ā€ Clint scratches at his head, avoiding Buckyā€™s gaze. ā€œUnprofessional.ā€
ā€œYou saved my life, thatā€™s literally what youā€™re paid to do,ā€ Bucky says. ā€œHow is that unprofessional.ā€
ā€œNot that,ā€ Clint says his face screwing up a little. ā€œWhat I did to Rumlow. Unprofessional. Youā€™re really not supposed to assault people, even if they are dicks.ā€
ā€œDid you get in trouble?ā€ Bucky asks. ā€œI can have a word with-ā€
ā€œItā€™s not that made him headbutt a wall,ā€ Clint says, sounding tired. ā€œItā€™s why I made him headbutt a wall. Iā€¦ā€ he pauses. ā€œOh fuck, Iā€™m a bad lifetime movie. Except queer.ā€
ā€œWhat are you talking about?ā€
ā€œI broke Brock Rumlowā€™s nose because he was mean to you,ā€ Clint says, the words bursting out of him in a sudden unstoppable stream. ā€œI was kind of mad because someone shot at you, and then he comes in and accuses you of being responsible for the whole thing and I justā€¦ā€ He shrugs helplessly. ā€œSo I have to resign because Iā€™m supposed to be protecting you from guns, not from getting your feelings hurt, and I thought I was doing pretty good at not being distracted by your ass, but apparently Iā€¦ uhā€¦ get a little carried away.ā€
ā€œYou get distracted by my ass,ā€ Bucky says slowly. Clintā€™s eyes open wide and thereā€™s red blooming over his cheeks.
ā€œCan you forget I said that? Iā€™m still on the good drugs.ā€
ā€œThey took you off them last night,ā€ Bucky says. ā€œIā€¦ Youā€™re resigning because-ā€
ā€œBecause I like you too much to be objective,ā€ Clint says, sagging into the bed. He looks awful, like heā€™s barely slept and so utterly dejected. Bucky looks at him speculatively.
ā€œI offer a very generous severance package,ā€ Bucky says. Clint stares at him, looking even worse, if anything. ā€œAndā€¦ now that youā€™ve resigned.ā€ He swallows and nods to himself. He can do this. ā€œIf you wanted to go out sometime, to dinner maybe?ā€ Clint blinks again.
ā€œLike a date?ā€
ā€œYeah. If you want,ā€ Bucky says, shrugging.
Clint grabs his hand and pulls, yanking Bucky half off his feet and onto the bed. Itā€™s more of a headbutt than a kiss - at first - but Bucky takes it as a yes. A very enthusiastic yes.
If his publicist has to send out a few more NDAs to the nursing staff, as far as Buckyā€™s concerned, itā€™s absolutely worth it.
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just-an-aussie-fandom-hermit Ā· 4 years ago
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Some #Only in Gotham posts because Iā€™m stressed and this is my coping mechanism
Guys guys guys
So I was in Central City today visiting some friends earlier this morning, and then the city gets attacked by these... aliens? Weird reptillian cryptids?? Who knows, but they were not happy nor friendly. We were all at this nice cafe just vibing in the outdoor area when this bipedal, green-gray reptile thing pops out of the manhole outside the cafe and goes absolutely feral. He was super close to my group so I grab my croc repellant (for non gothamites, itsā€™ basically pepper spray but really bad-smelling to ward off croc if he ever shows up) out in an instant and I sprayed it right in the face.
Then I grabbed the nearest thingā€”some poor old guyā€™s metal walking frameā€”and whacked the reptile in the back of the head and it crumpled basically instantly.
And after the JL had stepped in to deal with the rest of them (not many, from what Iā€™ve heard, but better safe than sorry I guess), heaps of people were freaking out about it because, well, this is Central City, they donā€™t get this kind of crime, theyā€™re not prepared for this, yada yada.
Then that manhole pops up and everyone freaks out again because ā€œoh god theyā€™re backā€ but itā€™s just Batman dragging a bunch of tied up reptiles out of the sewers using some kind of winch set-up. It was almost comicalā€”a daisy chain of reptiles being lifted out of this manhole in Central City by our favourite Goth Cryptid.
The cops were completely floored. The civilians didnā€™t know whether to be more scared of Bats or the reptiles. I mean, it was literally the middle of the day, and itā€™s rare to see Batman in daytime in Gotham but I guess this was an extenuating circumstance, so I guess I see why they were scared.
Batman just looks down at me standing over an unconscious reptilian holding the can of croc repellant and heā€™s just like ā€œIā€™m guessing youā€™re from Gotham.ā€
I was like ā€œyeah. Canā€™t escape the damn cryptids wherever I am.ā€
And tHEN he LAUGHS. Like, it was a small and quiet snort but it happened and Iā€™m still shook. I have officially joined the ā€œI made Batman laughā€ squad. I can ascend peacefully now.
He seemed super embarrassed but asked if my friends and I were okay before he turned on his heel and stalked over to Flash and Woner Woman, a daisy-chain of reptiles in tow.
#lmao #onlyingotham #Batman #IMadeBatmanLaugh #ITookDownAReptileCryptid #GothamIsWeirdOkay #WeGottaBePreparedForAnything
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I just heard this Metropolis guy try and trash Bruce Wayne to his friend at this diner and like five seperate people (myself included) turned around to roast the hell outta him. Like, yeah, heā€™s a billionaire, which is a whole can of worms I donā€™t wanna open right now, but heā€™s basically the only reason this cityā€™s still standing and functioning (especially after the quakes and the no-manā€™s-land bs). His kidsā€”most are poc and would not have thrived in the systemā€”are all successful and work with their communities to better other peopleā€™s lives. Bruce Wayne is basically the only reason I got through high school (and am now in college); a scholarship is the only reason most of my friends have enough money to make rent. He ā€œaccidentallyā€ spilled wine on Lex Luthor when he made a sexist remark. Also, didnā€™t it come out recently that heā€™s basically been funding the JL o at least is a major financial backer? An icon. You can shut your mouth, Jeremy.
One girl Instagram lived the whole exchange (she was filming beforehand I think) and it was magical.
Later on, Robin (the newest one, with the swords) shows up and heā€™s like ā€œthank you for defending the honour of Mr Wayneā€. I was like ā€œkid,,,, you donā€™t need to thank me but youā€™re welcomeā€. he just kinda looks at me for a second and says ā€œyou eat free tonightā€ and chucks a bunch of dollar notes at me and disappears into the wilderness (ie. an alleyway). It was so surreal.
#GiveWayneABreak #BruceWayne #LetTheManLiveHisLife #GothamitesProtectTheirOwn #EvenTheBatkidsAreProtectiveOfHim
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Yeah so....... I just saw some of Two-Faceā€™s goons about to enter a bank, weapons drawn, and Iā€™m scared because their boss is in Arkham, and the Roguesā€™ most loyal people always get antsy and trigger-happy when their bosses are off the board. Iā€™d dialed 911 when I first saw them and ducked into an alley.
But then I see one of them stop dead in their tracksā€”Goon A weā€™ll call himā€”and says ā€œhey, Wayneā€™s in thereā€.
Goon B: ā€œOh, weā€™re not meant to go after Wayne. Pack it in fellas.ā€
Goon C: ā€œHuh? why not?ā€
Goon A: ā€œBoss-man said so. Wayne used to be his best bud. Helped him campaign to be DA and stuff. Went to college together. Nice man.ā€
Goon B: ā€œGot no problem wth that. Wayneā€™s the only reason my boys got through school. Besides, we mess with Wayne, the boss and Harley will be on our asses.ā€
Goon C: ā€œHuh. Fair enough. Weā€™ll go to the other location then.ā€
And then they just,,,, left.
#EvenTheRoguesWannaProtectHim #BruceWayne #HarveyDent #TheGuysGotCaughtAfter #IToldDetectiveMontoya #AndSheJustSighedForAReallyLongTime #OnlyInGotham #GothamIsWeird
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Today I was in a Zoom call with some of my coworkers on the other side of the world, sitting in the kitchen facing the living room, when Red Robin comes crashing through my window. I just kinda turned around to see if he was badly injured (he wasnā€™t, couldnā€™t even see any blood) so I just continued on with what I was saying and he sheepishly left through the same window.
My coworkers are looking at me like ā€œJacob are you okay??ā€ And Iā€™m like, ā€œyeah man, that was just Red Robin, he has unfortunate luck with windows. Soon enough one of the other Bats will come knocking with a replacement or a cash refund. Though, I should probably just invest in plexi-glass.ā€
One of my coworkers went on a bit of a rant about ā€œvigilantes causing property damage and disrupting the peaceā€ and iā€™m like ā€œMark Iā€™d rather Batman crashing through my door or window once a month to getting buried in my twenties in his abscence,ā€ and he was like ā€œyeah, fair enoughā€ so we just continued with our call.
After my call, Blonde Batgirl shows up and apologises for the window. I ask about plexi-glass and if Red Robin is alright.
Sheā€™s like ā€œyeah heā€™s fine but heā€™s getting Bat-Lectured for being reckless which is why Iā€™m here. Also from what Oracle can tell you should be able to get plex-glass installed within the week.ā€
#OnlyInGotham #GettingBatLecturedDoesNotSoundFun #ThanksOracle #BatmanDontBeTooHardOnTheKid #Gothamite #MeanwhileInGothamCity #GothamCity #RedRobin
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So, Red Hood piggy-backed me up to my apartment yesterday because my heel broke when I was fleeing from these guys trying to mug me (or worse) and I sprained my ankle. He carried me up four flights of stairs and helped me get into my apartment and wrap my foot properly.
I told him to take some of my nanaā€™s lasagna (because our local vigilante needs to keep his strength up! Manā€™s gotta eat, and from what I hear heā€™s not swimming in cash) and he got real quiet for a while before saying ā€œyeah, sureā€.
So he ate some lasagna while I called in sick to work (who were very understanding, surprisingly).
Then after a little while heā€™s like ā€œbyeā€ and jumps outta my window.
An icon.
#RedHood #OnyInGotham #WeStanALegend #IHopeYouLikedTheLasagna #MyNanaSaysSheWillMakeMoreForYou #GrowingUpInCrimeAlley
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olivia-anderson-fanfic Ā· 3 years ago
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Canary, Part 1
It was a good day. Why did stuff always have to go wrong on ā€˜good daysā€™, Marinette thought bitterly as she rushed through the city, the rough edges of her phone digging into her palm. The message sheā€™d been sent was burned into her eyelids.
She pushed the spiraling thoughts from her mind as she stared at the street sign nearest her. Only a minute and sheā€™d be there and her fears would be either confirmed or denied.
She leaned against the wall to gather her thoughts. If she had messed up it had to have been today because, otherwise, he would have done something earlier. Did she mess up? She allowed her eyes to flutter closed as she thought back.
~
Sheā€™d woken up on an uncomfortable mattress on the floor and rolled off of it, the sheets sticking to her sweaty skin. It had been a particularly hot day for Gotham and she had been too concentrated on typing up a report for work to turn up the AC before her impromptu nap (translation: sheā€™d passed out).
She rubbed her eyes until she managed to get her brown contacts out and set them in the weird not-quite-water that she had never bothered to learn the name for so her eyes could rest while she took a quick shower and changed.
Then, sheā€™d waited. She sat in the window, eyes barely poking over the sill as she watched the building across the street. She didnā€™t feel like moving for a long while but, alas, the meeting was supposed to be that day and she was running out of time for that thing with Calendar Man andā€¦ yeah. Unfortunately, Marinette had to be productive that day unless she wanted more enemies.
She saw movement and her face lit up. She might get everything done soon, at least, and then she could pass out for a hundred years like she oh-so-desperately wanted to.
She checked that her gloves were firmly in place, pulled on the plague doctor (gas) mask that had accidentally become her trademark, and toed on her boots.
Then, she made her way up to the alleyway next to the building she had been watching. Sheā€™d been lucky enough to have a job right next to one of her safe houses and she kinda wished that it would happen again. It was nice to not have to travel a half-hour or more just to listen in on one boring conversation.
She pulled out her knives and, after testing to make sure they were still strong enough to hold her weight, began picking her way up to the roof.
She set everything up for the thing with Calendar Man. It took approximately five seconds. Yay her.
Alright, next thing: listening in on a boring conversation that, if she was lucky, would end in someone getting shot so it wouldnā€™t last too long. It was going to be even hotter inside the vent and she did not want to end up cooked. That would be embarrassing.
She crawled into the vents and dutifully wrote down everything they said on a notepad. They were negotiating a drug deal and her client wanted to intercept it to try and get both the money and the (ā€¦ Big D? What the fuck is Big D?) drugs. From the sounds of it, it wasnā€™t possible but, hey, her job wasnā€™t anything more than gathering intel. If her clients wanted to die stupidly that was on them.
ā€¦ maybe sheā€™d kill her client herself, she thought angrily as she readjusted in the vent in hopes of not getting stuck to the metal. It was easy money but wow was it awful.
Or, at least, it was awful until a hand grabbed her by the hood of her leather jacket and started dragging her out. She tipped her head back, grin on her face in seconds.
ā€œSignal. Hi.ā€
He sighed and pulled her the rest of the way out. She let herself hang from his grip like a reprimanded cat.
ā€œSo, whatā€™s up?ā€ She asked brightly, as if hadnā€™t just caught her listening in on a private conversation.
ā€œGreat, thanks for asking,ā€ he said. ā€œEven better now that Iā€™m taking the famed Canary to Arkham.ā€
ā€œWe both know thatā€™s not going to happen.ā€
He leveled her with a cold look for a few more seconds before splitting into a grin. ā€œYeah. Probably not. Got a backup plan?ā€
ā€œOf course.ā€
ā€œIs it even worth trying?ā€
ā€œProbably not. But who knows? You could get lucky.ā€
She waited for a minute as he mulled over the idea in his head before he sighed. ā€œI gotta ask: whatā€™s with the egg?ā€
She swatted at his hand until he let her down and then led him over to her science experiment. ā€œKnow how thereā€™s that expression that says ā€˜itā€™s so hot out you could make eggs on the sidewalkā€™ or something?ā€
ā€œYeahā€¦?ā€
ā€œWell, the pavement physically canā€™t get hot enough to do that and also weā€™re up north so: aluminum foil to try and get the process to work a little better.ā€
He stared at her for a while before snickering. ā€œNeed a magnifying glass? We can ā€˜kid with an anthillā€™ this.ā€
ā€œSure.ā€
He reached into his tool belt and started looking for his spare. Unfortunately for him, it seemed to be gone.
She could feel his sharp gaze turn on her even if she couldnā€™t see his eyes behind his helmet. He wasnā€™t stupid and magnifying glasses donā€™t usually just disappear into thin air unless theyā€™re Plastic Man in disguise. She held up her hands for a quick search but, when he couldnā€™t find it on her, he just sighed and looked down at the science experiment. It didnā€™t seem to be going well. The egg was still distinctly not cooked.
Eventually, he groaned and sat down. The light around him flickered and started to move at his will. Marinette watched intently.
Ten minutes later, they had a cooked egg. They high-fived, delighted. They werenā€™t going to taste it, obviously, it had been out for a while without supervision and who knows what could have happened to itā€¦ but it was an egg! Yay them!
ā€œMy old science teacher would be so proud of me,ā€ Marinette joked.
ā€œMy current science teacher would be proud of me.ā€
ā€œOooooh, going back to school?ā€
He smiled. ā€œYep! Robin is finally in college and Red Hood convinced me to go with him. You should, too, itā€™s actually not that bad.ā€
ā€œPlease. If I was going to do that Iā€™d go back to my home country. American school is expensive and not all of us are sponsored by billionaires.ā€
ā€œ... arenā€™t you a millionaire?ā€
She grinned. ā€œOf course. But why would I want to spend that much of my own money?ā€
He hummed his understanding. Then, she pushed herself up with a groan. ā€œRight, we both have jobs. See you later.ā€
He hesitated and then held a hand out for her notepad. ā€œIs it bad?ā€
She held it out of reach with ease. ā€œNah, just drugs. Unless someone got shot while I was gone but I doubt it. Theyā€™d been almost as bored as me last I heard.ā€
ā€œIf itā€™s nothing then let me see.ā€
ā€œUgh, do you really want to fight? Itā€™s too hot for that,ā€ Marinette complained. He started to square up and she, after a secondā€™s thought, added a little something to convince him: ā€œAlso, thereā€™s going to be a breakout today so you should really save your energy.ā€
ā€œ... really think Iā€™m going to fall for that?ā€
There was an explosion in the distance.
ā€œYeah. Iā€™d hurry. Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s Jokerā€™s turn to get out.ā€
She waved him off with a smileā€¦ only for her smile to drop when she remembered her other job. She groaned again and stretched out while she still could.
Tikki floated over the side of the building, a magnifying glass as big as her head in her tiny paws.
Marinette rubbed the kwamiā€™s head. ā€œYouā€™re the best.ā€
Her kwami sighed. ā€œThat I am,ā€ she said.
Marinette grinned and sent the film of Signal using his powers to her computer so she could give it to Calendar Man when it was due.
People were always so predictable in Gotham.
~
She supposed she really had been tempting fate when sheā€™d thought that. Still, that didnā€™t mean she liked it that Fate had called her bluff.
But, actually, it seemed that Fate was the one that was bluffing. That had been her entire day. She had finished up her work and then went to one of her more stocked safehouses for a nap. Sheā€™d woken up to the buzzing of her phone when sheā€™d gotten the message. She didnā€™t think she had messed up anywhereā€¦
Her shoulders relaxed. She was probably fine. Which meant it was just Oswald Cobblepot being annoying. As usual.
Marinette flung the doors to the Iceberg Lounge open. Every eye in the room fell on her, but she only cared about the eyes of one person.
She stalked through the lounge, pulling one of her twin karambits from its sheath and pointing the curved blade towards him.
ā€œWhat the fuck do you want? You really think that, after almost seven whole years of rejecting your wrinkly ass, Iā€™m suddenly going to say ā€˜oh, yeah, I guess Iā€™ll work for him nowā€™? Leave me alone!ā€
Cobblepot wasnā€™t concerned even as her knife came to rest under his chin.
ā€œCanary,ā€ he greeted, regarding her cooly through his monocle.
Guards surrounded them. Marinette somehow managed to look unimpressed without anyone being able to see her face.
Everyone present held their breathā€¦ except for the two with weapons pointed at themselves. They knew that they would never follow through with it, especially not in a place as public as this. It was little more than a warning, a reminder, that either of them could kill each other at any given moment and chose not to.
For now, at least.
Cobblepot dismissed the guards with a wave of a gloved hand and she, after a few seconds, lowered her knife.
ā€œWhat do you want?ā€
ā€œCurrently? For you to get off my table,ā€ said Cobblepot.
She snorted but hopped down with ease. ā€œI meant: why did you call me here?ā€
ā€œ... we should go somewhere else to discuss this. I assume you donā€™t do all of your business meetings in public?ā€
ā€œOnly if I know ahead of time that Iā€™m going to say no,ā€ she said.
He motioned for her to walk with him to a private room and, reluctantly, she followed. He had to think he had something on her, otherwise he wouldnā€™t have tried calling her there. She was curious.
They came to a room with a metal door and she cringed a little. Fun.
She dropped eight knives down into a tray and Cobblepot put down a gun, a knife, and his umbrella. She let a female goon pat her down and then checked Cobblepot over herself. Nothing she could find, but she was sure he had found some way to hide one somewhere.
They stepped inside as a pair and each took a seat on opposing ends of the wooden table stationed awkwardly in the middle of the room. She leaned back in her chair and propped her feet up.
ā€œSo, whatā€™s the job?ā€
ā€œIā€™m surprised youā€™re even going to hear it.ā€
She shrugged. ā€œIā€™m curious.ā€
He nodded slowly before leaning forward to rest his elbows on the table, steepling his fingers in front of his face.
ā€œPower poses donā€™t actually work, you know, thatā€™s just lies so companies donā€™t actually have to deal with all the discrimination.ā€
ā€œIs that true?ā€ He asked.
She shrugged again. ā€œProbably. Iā€™ve never worked for anyone, soā€¦ā€
He chuckled. She didnā€™t like that.
But he didnā€™t say anything on that subject. Instead, he just smiled a smile that looked weird on his face and gave her her mission briefing: ā€œI want you to figure out the batsā€™ identities for me.ā€
Marinette stared at him for a minute before breaking out into laughter. She couldnā€™t seem to stop. She stood up to leave, still giggling. Really? Did he really think that would work? People had asked many times, of course, and the batsā€™ identities werenā€™t common knowledge so she had to have said no. Why would she suddenly do it for him? She didnā€™t even like him.
She rested her hand on the knob but held off on leaving for just a second. She flashed a grin at Cobblepot. ā€œInteresting offer. Bold. But no. Couldnā€™t pay me enough to do that.ā€
ā€œGood thing I have no intentions of paying you, Marinette.ā€
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And behold a new section I call ā€˜Marinette is a menace to society why would anyone let her on twitterā€™
(ā€¦ the name may need a little work)
OliverQueenOfficial: Why does that one Gotham villain go by Canary? Black Canary already exists.
TheBetterCanary: if youre gonna vague tweet maybe dont put my name in it
TheBetterCanary: but anyways someone else named me that and it stuck before i could think of something to change it to
ScareCrane:ā€¦ @/RiddleMeThis sheā€™s dissing you
RiddleMeThis: LISTEN UP. IT WAS THEMATIC. DONā€™T ANY OF YOU KNOW ANYTHING OF DRAMA? EVER HEAR ABOUT CANARIES IN COAL MINES? FUCK ALL OF YOU AND YOUR UNCULTURED, UNEDUCATED ASSES. NOT TO MENTION IT WAS MAKING FUN OF THE BIRD THEME ALL THE VIGILANTES HER AGE SEEM TO HAVE. (1/14)
TheBetterCanary: @/ScareCrane why would you do that you knew he was going to do this
ScareCrane: Joker just broke out so Arkham is boringā€¦ needed to entertain myself somehow
TheBetterCanary: fuck you im not visiting this weekend
OliverQueenOfficial: Wow do I regret asking. I didnā€™t need all this family drama in my comments.
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Written for Maribat March Day 30 - Goodbye
Bruce picked up his phone on the second ring. It wasn't unusual for him to get phone calls at eleven o'clock at night - he was a busy man, after all. What was unusual was the fact that the call was from an unknown number. Bruce very rarely gave out his personal number. "Hello?"
"Bruce?" a tiny voice questioned through the phone.
"Emilie?" Bruce recognized her voice, even though it had been ten years since the last time he spoke to Emilie Graham de Vanily (now Emilie Agreste). He never knew what had happened to her, just that one day she stopped answering his emails and her phone number was disconnected. Bruce wanted to reconnect with her, but at the time it seemed like Emilie chose not to speak to him on purpose.
"I'm sorry for calling so late at night. I know we haven't spoken in a long time, but I'm in Gotham and I need your help."
Bruce didn't hesitate for even a moment. "What do you need?"
Twenty minutes later, Bruce pulled up in front of Gotham International Airport. He didn't recognize Emilie at first, not until he got out of the car and she called his name.
"Bruce!" Emilie had changed. What surprised Bruce was that the first thing he noticed was not the black eye that marred her face, but the little blonde boy who stood at her side.
"Hello, Emilie," said Bruce, pointedly ignoring the fact that she hadn't told him about her son.
"Hello, Bruce. This is Adrien," she introduced.
"Hello." Adrien greeted Bruce quietly, his eyes trained at the ground. The white cast on his arm was decorated with little doodles. Bruce assumed that Emilie had drawn them with the pen she tucked behind her ear.
They all got into Bruce's car with little fanfare. Emilie sat in the passenger seat. Adrien sat in the back and was asleep before they left the parking lot.
"Did your husband give you that black eye?"
Emilie didn't waste words explaining the situation. "Yes."
"What about Adrien's arm?"
"I told Gabriel a long time ago that if he ever touched Adrien, I would leave him. Either he forgot or didn't believe me. I'm keeping true to my word. In the morning I'm going to a lawyer to file for divorce papers and a restraining order, and to press charges for Adrien's arm."
Bruce nodded, "I have a whole team of lawyers that you can use." He kept his eyes fixed on the road even though all he wanted to do was stare at her. It had been ten long years since he had seen her face to face.
Bruce first met Emilie during his junior year at Gotham University. He'd been a mess before that. He could barely stay sober long enough to go to class, and his grades were a testament to that fact. Emilie Graham de Vanily came to Gotham University as part of her study abroad program, in which she would spend two semesters at an American university, then return to Paris to finish her degree. She was Bruce's exact opposite: no-nonsense and dedicated to her studies.
The first time Bruce met Emilie, she slapped him in the face. It was the first day of the semester, and he was incredibly hungover. He only showed up to get the syllabus so he knew what the best days to skip were. Bruce sat down next to Emilie Agreste and started flirting with her, an action he had gotten very good at over his years at Gotham University. Emilie told him three times to knock it off, getting increasingly less polite until she eventually slapped him across the face and stormed out of the classroom.
Emilie must have slapped some sense back into Bruce because decided to apologize. She didn't forgive him immediately, but after a few weeks of sitting together in class, they decided to study together. By the end of the semester, they were meeting up every weekend to hang out. Bruce stopped drinking so much, started going back to Wayne Manor on the weekends, started talking to Alfred again.
Bruce asked Emilie out at the beginning of her second semester. To Bruce's disappointment, Emilie declined, but with a gleam in her eye that let Bruce know that there was a chance that their relationship could become more than platonic. They spent the semester together, sharing meals and inside jokes, study rooms and secrets. Bruce was certain that when he asked her out a second time, as they both stood in the airport, waiting for Emilie's flight to Paris to board, she would say yes. Instead, Emilie pressed a kiss to his cheek and told him, "Third time's the charm, Bruce." Then she got on her flight and they never spoke again.
Bruce found out three months later that she was recently engaged. He was never sent a wedding invitation. He tried his best to forget her entirely, after that.
"We're here," Bruce broke the silence as he parked the car in front of Wayne Manor.
From the backseat, Adrien rubbed the sleep from his eyes. "Maman?" he mumbled.
Emilie got out of the car and opened up the backseat, helping Adrien to his feet. "Tu es en sƩcuritƩ, mon fils," she whispered to him, assuring her that he was safe here.
Alfred opened up the front door and welcomed Emilie and Adrien into the house, offering to escort them to their rooms. Bruce was suddenly reminded of the time difference between Paris and Gotham. 1 AM in Gotham was 7 AM in Paris - early morning. It had been at least 24 hours since Emilie and Adrien last slept.
"Are you sure we should go?" asked Emilie, yawning through her sentence.
"Of course. I'll get everything for the lawyers taken care of by morning."
Emilie nodded. "Thank you, Bruce."
Emilie and Adrien left the foyer, following Alfred. Bruce made his way to his office and got to work.
Some time later, Alfred entered the room. ā€œMiss Graham de Vanily and her son have just gone to bed.ā€
ā€œThank you, Alfred.ā€
ā€œYou should go too."
Bruce shook his head. "I have too much work to do. I need this paperwork ready for my lawyers in the morning." At the top of his desk were divorce papers for Emilie, papers for the termination of parental rights, and two restraining orders, one for Adrien and one for Emilie, both against Gabriel Agreste.
"What you need, is some sleep. You'll be no use to Emilie and Adrien if you're dead on your feet tomorrow morning."
Bruce sighed, casting one last glance at the half-filled forms. "Alright."
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At the breakfast table the next morning, Adrien and Dick had become fast friends.
ā€œIf you were a superhero, what would your name be?ā€ Dick quizzed the younger boy.
ā€œThat depends on what my powers are.ā€
Dick wrinkled his nose in objection. ā€œYou donā€™t need powers to be a superhero, you just need training.ā€
Bruce was certain that he had said the same thing to Dick at one point. Dick heeded the words like gospel - now he spent most of his free time training to be Batman's partner. Though Bruce had already told Dick that he wasn't allowed to fight crime until he was thirteen, Dick seemed to think that enough skill might make up for the two-year difference.
"Okay. What would your superhero name be?" asked Adrien
ā€œI would be called Robin, after Robin Hood.ā€
ā€œIā€™ll be called Peregrine. Did you know that the peregrine falcon is the fastest type of bird? They can reach speeds of up to 240 miles per hour. I learned that from one of Mom's movies."
Bruce could recall that Emilie narrated a few nature documentaries in her rather brief film career.
Emilie walked into the kitchen, her black eye hidden by a thick layer of concealer. "Good morning, boys." She looked a bit startled, and Bruce realized that he hadn't told her about Dick.
"Emilie, could I talk to you in my office?"
"Sure."
As they made their way down the hall, Emilie remarked to Bruce, "You didn't tell me you had a son."
"I was.... distracted, last night. I adopted Richard a few months back. I was there when his parents died and he reminded me of myself when I was his age."
Emilie nodded. "I'm glad Adrien has someone to talk to here."
They continued down the hall, stopping at the door to Bruce's office.
"So what is it that you wanted to talk about?" asked Emilie as she entered his office.
Bruce held up the forms on his desk. "Divorce papers, restraining orders, termination of parental rights, and a police report for the injuries he caused. I wanted to know which papers you wanted to be filed and when. "
"I want them all filed, as soon as possible." Emilie's voice was hard.
"Are you sure?" Bruce didn't want to ask, but he felt the need to double-check.
"Bruce, I spent ten years of my life with Gabriel. I let him manipulate me into thinking that he was a good man. And he had his good days. There were days when I remembered why I fell in love with him in the first place. He was so passionate..." Emilie's wistful voice turned cold. "But passion turned to obsession, love turned to hate, and he couldn't stand me but he couldn't let me go either. I was willing to give him second chances when I was his only victim, but I can't let him get away with hurting Adrien. If I don't leave now, if I let him get away with even one of the bruises he's given me, then Adrien and I will never be free of him."
Bruce nodded. "We can get to work on these after breakfast."
"Wait." Emilie gently grabbed his elbow. Bruce turned to face her. "Once the divorce is finalized..." Emilie paused and took a deep breath. "Remember what I said at the airport, when we were both young?"
Bruce nodded and quoted her, "You told me: 'Third time's the charm, Bruce.'"
Emilie gave him a small smile. "Third time's the charm. If you still want me, ask me again."
Bruce knew that Emilie had been through a lot these past few days. He didn't want her to make a decision she would later regret. "Are you sure?"
"I've said goodbye to you one too many times, Bruce. I never want to say goodbye to you again."
There was a deep, earnest honesty in her eyes. Bruce knew that there was no longer anything holding her back. There wasn't anything holding him back, either. "Whatever you need, Emilie, I'll give it to you."
Emilie smiled, a hopeful look on her face. "Tell me I can stay."
"Forever."
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blackswaneuroparedux Ā· 4 years ago
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Anonymous asked: Have you watched Lupin? What did you think? (And are you a fan of the books or other adaptations of the character?)
The short answer is yes, I have seen Lupin on Netflix. Overall I enjoyed it so long as I suspended my disbelief at certain things.
Unfortunately it took being struck down by Covid and being bedridden for me to actually to binge watch the whole series. So I was behind the curve when my friends, French and those outside of France, started to talk about it around me. I had to beg them not to give away spoilers until I had seen it all.
It did surprise me that it won rave widespread reviews outside France because usually French drama series donā€™t travel very well outside of France. Iā€™m sure even Netflix had no idea how successful it would be for them. Iā€™m sure being in Covid lockdown had something to do with it. In any case I donā€™t begrudge its success as itā€™s well earned.
However I wasnā€™t too surprised that within France itself the French reviews were decidely mixed and divisive. The critic at Le Point painfully hit the nail on the head when he wrote, ā€œLe plus gros dĆ©faut de l'ensemble reste la pauvretĆ© des personnages, tous unidimensionnels, caricaturaux et aussi Ć©pais que du papier Ć  cigarette.ā€œ - loosely translated as, ā€˜the biggest flaw of the whole thing remains the poverty of the characters, all one-dimensional, cartoonish and as thick as cigarette paperā€™.
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Thereā€™s a growing amount of good French stuff on TV and streaming services but a non-French audience will not have had the chance to have seen all of it yet. I can think of any number of French television drama/dramedy/cmedy series that are much better than Lupin with better plots, characters, and even a truer perspective of French society and even modern day France (Dix pour cent (Call My Agent!), Le Bureau des LĆ©gendes, Engrenages, Baron Noir, and Paris Police 1900). But you would be hard pressed to find anything that comes close to Lupin just for the sake of something fun to watch during the Covid lockdown.
What makes the current generation of home made French television series so interesting is how much of it is a reflection of Franceā€™s own anxieities about itself and its role in a increasingly English speaking dominating world. In a funny way it sees itself as defiant plucky Asterix fighting off the Roman American cultural hordes from totally invading their Francophone culture.
For sure, it has societal and racial issues stemming from its colonial legacy and issues of immigration and integration (France has the largest Muslim population in Europe). However it seems to want to ā€˜resolveā€™ these issues through the almost sacramental adherence to French secularist ideals rather than American inspired ideas of social justice and equity. Thereā€™s always been something very admirable about the French - from the time of General de Gaulle and perhaps before - always swinging from snooty ambivalence to outright antipathy towards the influence of American culture ā€˜americanisingā€™ French culture (no to Walmarts or fast food chains for example).
Is it any wonder then that Netflixā€™s ill-conceived American seriesĀ ā€˜Emily in Parisā€™ was widely hated and mocked within France for just perpetuating those lazy American tropes of Paris and French culture?
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Personally I know Francophile Americans, long resident in Paris, who were frankly embarrassed and spent a lot of time apologising to their French friends. I have one American friend who has told me that she was so mad that she would have blind folded Emily and shoved her hard in the car boot and drive her all the way to the poorest of the banlieues in the grimey crime saturated suburbs of Paris - Seine-Saint-Denis came to mind - and dump her preening arse there. She would slap her and tell the spoilt entitied brat to make her own way back home - you know, to her spacious apartment in one of the most expensive arrondissements of Paris that of course(!) any American intern working for French marketing firms can afford.
I digress. My apologies. Watching this God awful show gives me PTSD.
Onto Lupin.
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Thankfully Lupin doesnā€™t try to play to non-French tropes of what Paris is or isnā€™t. It does skim the surface of current discontents within French culture and society (race, class, power, and money) but ever so lightly so as to not get in the way of just spinning a good crowd pleasing yarn. It invites you to have fun and not to think too much. I have to be honest and say I enjoyed it as long as I suspended my disbelief here and there.
Lupin refers of course to the character ArsĆØne Lupin, the French gentleman thief who stole jewellery from Parisian haute bourgeois and aristocracy at the turn of the century. Lupin, as written in the novels and short stories by Maurice Leblanc between 1905 and his death in 1941, was the archetypical anti-hero, a Robin Hood who stole from those who deserved it but kept the loot himself. He was often portrayed often a force for good, while operating on the wrong side of the law.
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Lupin never really made much of an impact outside of France as he had within France where is revered with many French film and television adaptations. In England, we already had a Lupin type character in the form of A.J. Raffles, a cricket playing gentleman thief with his aristocratic side kick, Bunny. E.W. Horningā€™s stories of Rafflesā€™ daring heists proved to be quite popular with the British public when Raffles first appeared on the scene in 1898. And even later Leslie Charterisā€™ The Saint took over the mantle from Raffles as the gentleman thief/adventuring Robin Hood.
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I think Hollywood tried to introduce him to an English speaking audience (legendary actor John Barrymore even played him) but he didnā€™t really take off and eventually they found their gentleman thief archetype in Sir Charles Lytton aka The Phantom (played by David Niven and Christopher Plummer) in the Pink Panther movies. So Lupin never got the English audience he deserved.
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I first got wind of who ArsĆØne Lupin was when I was growing up in Japan as a child. As strange as it sounds Lupin was big in Japan especially after World War Two. The Japanese did their own take on the Lupin character using Japanese actors and plot lines but it was Lupin.
I donā€™t know how exactly but I remember watching these scratchy DVDs of these Lupin inspired films. I think it was one of my parentsā€™ Japanese friends who was mad for all things Lupin and he had studied French literature in France. Jogging my memory I now recall these black & white films were done in the 1950s. One starred Keiji Sada and the other version I remember was with Eija Okada (he was in Resnaisā€™ classic film, Hiroshima Mon Amour) as Arsene Lupin called (I think) Kao-no Nai Otoko. I didnā€™t understand most of it at the time because it was all in Japanese and my Japanese (at the time) was pitiful, but it looked fun.
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There was even a Japanese manga version of Lupin which was called Lupin III, - so named because he was the grandson of the real ArsĆØne Lupin.
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The 1960s manga series spawned generations of TV series which I do remember watching and finding it terribly exciting if somewhat confusing.
It was French expatriate friends whom my family knew that introduced me to the real ArsĆØne Lupin. They had a few of the books authored by Maurice Leblanc. It was in French so I read them to improve my French but enjoyed the story along the way.
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I also remember them showing me scratchy episodes of the 1970s Franco-German TV series ā€˜ArsĆØne Lupinā€™ with the monocle wearing Georges DescriĆØres in the lead role. It was a classical re-telling of the adventures of the aristocratic gentleman-burglar and very family friendly viewing. I donā€™t really remember much of it to be honest.
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It was some years before I actually started to read more of the Maurice Leblancā€™s novels and short stories collection. I have them all now. I was a teen and I remember being stuck in a snowed in a Swiss Alpine chalet and with nothing else to do but pull out a few dog eared books from the bookshelves belonging to our French host and read to pass the time.
I read Les Dents du tigre, ArsĆØne Lupin vs Herlock Sholmes, and Les Huit Coups de l'horloge and thoroughly enjoyed them in the original French. I was already reading classic detective and mystery novels (Sherlock Holmes, Poirot etc) so it was natural to read the adventures of ArsĆØne Lupin.
I havenā€™t got around to reading all the novels and short stories but I have read most of them and I enjoyed them all immensely. In the same way Conan Doyle, through Holmes and Watson, manages to conjure a convincing picture of late Victorian and early Edwardian England, so Leblanc manages to give us a taste of Belle Epoque France through the eyes of his suave gentleman-thief, ArsĆØne Lupin.
Indeed it's a lot like reading Sherlock Holmes in that you're always trying to figure out how he did it, but the difference is that you are rooting for the bad guy. You canā€™t help but be drawn to this gentleman thief who is charming, comic, playful, and romantic and generous. Lupin is not an intellectual puzzle-solver but first a master criminal, later a detective helper, who maintains his curious ethics throughout his adventures. In this regard he is very much the anti-Sherlock Holmes; and I wasnā€™t disappointed when I actually read the story where Lupin faces off with Holmes himself. Brilliant!
Iā€™ve also seen the 2004 French movie with Romain Duris in the Lupin lead role and it also starred the majestic Kristin Scott Thomas and the sexy Eva Green.
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It was a decent adventure flick and it was a clear confluence of different Lupin novels (The Queen's Necklace (introducing Lupin's childhood), The Hollow Needle (where the treasure is the macguffin of the story), The Arrest of ArsĆØne Lupin (the gala on the ship as a backdrop) and Josephine Balsamo, (one of Lupinā€™s most memorable opponents in the The Countess Of Cagliostro).
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Romaine Duris, a fine classical actor, was I felt miscast because he didnā€™t have Lupinā€™s levity of wit and be at ease within himself. I love Duris in his other films but in ArsĆØne Lupin and even in his other film, Moliere, he seemed ill at ease with the role. Perhaps thatā€™s just me.
The latest Netflix adaptation (or reimagining to be more precise) is a welcome addition to the world of ArsĆØne Lupin.If you donā€™t over-think it, itā€™s bags of fun.
Omar Sy is immensely likeable. Sy is a deservedly a big star in France - he won the best actor CĆ©sar for ā€œThe Intouchables,ā€ an international hit - and has played forgettable secondary characters in big-budget American special effects movies (he was Chris Prattā€™s assistant in ā€œJurassic Worldā€ and a minor mutant in ā€œX-Men: Days of Future Pastā€). It was reportedly his desire to play ArsĆØne Lupin, whom heā€™s compared to James Bond (ā€œfun, funny, elegantā€), that led to the series, created by British writer George Kay. And it is on his charm that the series largely, though not entirely, rests.
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So the basic story revolves around a jewellery heist. Sy plays Assane Diop, a first-generation French-Senegalese man in contemporary Paris. A collection of Lupin stories, a gift from his father - whose undeserved fate Assane set himself to avenge in long-delayed, Count of Monte Cristo style upon a criminal tycoon - has made the actual Lupin books a foundation of his life and profitably illicit career. This fan-ship goes as far as borrowing practical ideas from the stories and constructing aliases out of anagrams of ā€œArsene Lupin,ā€ a habit that will attract the interest of a low-level police detective (Soufiane Guerrab as Youssef Guedira) who shares Assaneā€™s love of the books. (That the detective also shares an initial with Lupinā€™s own adversary, Inspector Ganimard, is possibly not a coincidence.)
Among the many comic delights of Lupin, is an unspoken one. Time and again, the showā€™s hero, master thief Assane Diop is able to slip into a place unnoticed, or by assuming a minor disguise that prevents witnesses from providing an accurate description of him to law enforcement.
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Why is this funny?
Because Omar Sy is six feet three (and, since most actors are short, seems even taller), is roughly as wide as soccer pitch, and is memorable even before he flashes his infectious million-Euro smile. This is not a man for whom anonymity should be possible - even allowing for racial bias in a majority-white country, Assane would be memorable and distinctive - and Lupin seems cheekily aware of this. Like the various incredible sleights of hand Assane deploys to pull off his thefts and escapes, his ability to be anyone, anywhere, is treated more as a superpower than as something even the worldā€™s greatest criminal would be able to pull off.
At one point, when heā€™s slated for a cable news appearance as a much older man, we learn that Assane is also a master of disguise. The revelation of this skill arrives with a wink in the show, and it feels pointless to ask where he learned it, or how he affords movie-quality latex and makeup. Or rather, asking the question feels wrong.
We know this is impossible, the show seems to be asking its viewers again and again, but isnā€™t it so much fun?
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The performances and the production - it has that particularly European filmic quality of feeling natural even when it gets stylish - keep the series warm even as the plot is made up of incredulous contraptions that require everything to go right at just the right time and for human psychology to be 100% predictable. Its physics are classical rather than quantum, one might say, and like the world itself, which becomes more curious the deeper you peer into things, it is best handled along the surface. You do not want to take too much time working out the likelihood of any of this happening. Just go along for the ride.
Somehow, though, it all works because Sy is so magnetic and charming that questioning plot logic feels wildly besides the point. Though he never looks appreciably different in his various aliases (including one ill-conceived live-TV appearance done under old-man makeup and a thick beard), he changes his posture and voice ( if you watch it in French that is) enough to allow for the willing suspension of disbelief, in the same way that any lead actor as Superman has to do when playing Clark Kent. But Sy and the show are at their strongest when Assane is just being his own Superman self, utterly relaxed and confident in his own skin, and so captivating that his ex-partner, Claire, canā€™t really resist him despite ample reason to.
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If Assane seems practically perfect in every way, he is not perfectly perfect. His most obvious failing is that his criminal shenanigans and revenging make him less than reliable in his daily life, affecting his relationships with ex-partner Claire (Ludivine Sagnier, whom non-French audiences might recognise from ā€œThe Young Popeā€ and ā€œThe New Popeā€), who despairs of his inability to show up on time to see his son Raoul (Etan Simon). Like Sy, Sagnier brings a lot of soul to her part - though onscreen far less, sheā€™s as important as Sy to the seriesā€™ success - and the two actors have great chemistry. Also impressive and key to creating sympathy are the actors who play their flashback teenage selves, Mamadou Haidara and Ludmilla Makowski. Really, you could do away with action elements and build a series around them.
This is a pity because Lupin often fumbles its emotional reveals in other parts - the story of Diop being torn between his job and his family feels like wheel-spinning, rather than genuine emotional intrigue.
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Soufiane Guerrab is wasted in the Young Detective Consumed by the Case role and spends most of this season pinning colour printouts of book covers to cork boards and getting waved off by his colleagues, who are all blinded or otherwise hampered by careerism.
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But to my mind the weakest link is the villain himself and his daughter. Veteran actor HervƩ Pierre hams it up as Hubert Pellegrini, a business tycoon who is the patriarch of the Pellegrini family. He just comes across as animated cartoon villain with no character depth (think moustache twirling Russian villain, Boris Badenov, in the Rocky & Bullwinkle cartoon shows). He just emotes anger a lot without any nuance or hint of complexity.
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Even Clotilde Hesme who plays the daughter who is unaware of her fatherā€™s criminal tendencies is miscast. For the record I adore Clotilde Hesme as she one of Franceā€™s most talented classical actresses (that non-French outsiders will not have heard of). She is a classically theatre trained actress and is one of the best stage actresses of her generation that I have ever seen. Iā€™ve seen her in plays where she is just mesmerising. She has said before that sheā€™s more comfortable on the stage than she is on the screen. And when she has been on screen she still has been a powerful presence. Sheā€™s actually won a CĆ©sar too. Here in Lupin, she seems to have no agency and looks bored with nothing really to do.I really hope they give her more scenes in the next part of Lupin.
The series is at its best when following Diop enacting his plans, and when revealing each one from a different vantage, making us privy to every moving part like a magician revealing his secrets. The show captures the momentum of a clockwork heist, the tension of sudden obstacles and the ingenuity of improvised responses, with thrilling precision (especially in ā€œChapter 1 - Le Collier de la reine,ā€ directed by Now You See Meā€™s Louis Leterrier).
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Lupin is also politically incisive when it wants to be; it brings to mind Ladj Lyā€™s Oscar-nominated 2019 film Les MisĆ©rables, which adapted the broad strokes of Victor Hugoā€™s novel about the 1832 Paris Rebellion, and modernised the story by focusing on the police brutality faced by non-white Parisians.
Lupin opens with Diop disguised as cleaning staff and entering the Louvre after-hours, alongside dozens of forgotten, anonymous non-white workers as they pass by ā€œLa LibertĆ© guidant le people,ā€ EugĆØne Delacroixā€™s famous painting of the July Revolution of 1830 which replaced Franceā€™s hereditary rule with popular sovereignty.
Before any semblance of plot or character, Lupin centres broken ideals and promises unkept (without giving too much away, the showā€™s primary villain has much more nationalistic view of French culture and history which merely adds to a cartoonish caricature than a complex character). The rest of the episode is about valuable jewels once owned by Marie Antionette - one of the most recognisable symbols of wealth and extravagance in times of extreme poverty - which are put up for auction by the Pelligrini family, and bid on by other wealthy collectors with bottomless purses and no sense of irony.
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Granted, beyond this auction subplot, explorations of race and class are largely limited to individual interactions, but the show continues to refer back to (and implicitly comment on) its source material in ways that wink at the audience. An elderly, unassuming target of Diopā€™s schemes seems like an unlikely victim at first - Diop, though he acts in his own self-interest, usually displays a moral compass - until this victim reveals the colonial origins of her wealth, immediately re-contextualising the ethics of the situation, in a manner that Leblancā€™s stories did not. (The show is yet to apply this lens to ArsĆØne Lupin himself, who Diop treats with reverence, but thatā€™s a secondary concern since Lupin is entirely fictional in-world).
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Barring some nagging structural problems - like cutting to flashbacks when things are getting exciting, or epilogues that feel ten minutes too long - Lupin mostly works. It plants a few personal seeds early on, which it keeps hinting at without fully addressing, but by the time its scattered elements come into focus, the show finally figures out how to weave them together, and delivers a mid-season cliffhanger that renders many of these flaws irrelevant.
Lupin manages to have fun even with an antiquated premise - the story of a suave con-man who charms his way through high-profile robberies - while adding just enough new spin on the concept to feel refreshing. Omar Sy may not have much to work with, but his alluring presence makes Assane Diop feel like a worthy successor to ArsĆØne Lupin.
Lupin isnā€™t going to win CĆ©sar, BAFTA, or Emmy awards, or even turn heads for its ability to develop tertiary or even secondary plots or characters - that doesnā€™t really matter. Youā€™re there to see a difficult hero be difficult and heroic - everyone else is there to be charmed, vexed, or eluded by them. Syā€™s performance bounds off the screen, and is almost musical. He floats through scenes like he glides over the roofs and through the back alleys of Paris; he outmanoeuvres his foes with superior literary references and sheer athleticism. He is irresistible and also good at everything he tries, even kidnapping.
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I would encourage anyone to watch Lupin for a fun care free ride. But the only caveat I would make is watch it in the original French.
If you donā€™t know French then put on the subtitles to understand (thatā€™s what they are there for). The real crime is to watch this (or any film or television series) dubbed in a foreign language. Itā€™s disrespectful to the actors and film makers and itā€™s silly because itā€™s comical to watch something dubbed over.
Please watch it in the original French.
Then go and read the books. You wonā€™t regret it.
Thanks for your question.
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southfarthing Ā· 3 years ago
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hey!! 6, 8, 18 & 30 for the behind the scenes ask thing? :D
hellooo!! thank you!
6. If youā€™re really concentrating, how many words can you write in a day?
I think my record was 2.4k, but I'd say 1k is a good day. I remember managing only 500 words a day back when I was at uni, even if I had the whole dady to just write, so it's nice to see some progress! I'm a lot slower these days because my brain is slow and I'm having to handwrite (and later type with the screen down lmao which is then riddled with typos) so right now a good day is like 6 days of my notebook (so roughly 600 words)
8. Do you listen to music while you write? If so, share a song thatā€™s been inspiring you lately.
Yes!! I have writing playlists depending on the mood of the scene I'm writing. They're mostly made of film/tv scores and other instrumental pieces. I've recently been listening to the Ophelia film title track on repeat
here are my playlists if anyone wants to try them?
tracks that make me think there IS some good in this world mr frodo
tracks that make me want to float down avalon in a burning boat
tracks that make me want to walk through the woods barefoot
tracks that should theoretically make me work harder
18. What is a line/scene youā€™re really proud of? Give us the DVD commentary for that scene.
Hmm.. just anything particularly angsty tbh. I like the part in chp 3 of scorch marks and embers when Arthur tries to fix things with Merlin because it mirrors the end of chp 1 (and all in Merlinā€™s space instead of Arthurā€™s!!) I just get really excited writing anything painful lmaooooo
Merlin stared at him; his eyes were wide, vulnerable. ā€˜Youā€™re the King.ā€™
ā€˜I know that.ā€™
ā€˜Iā€™m your servantā€“ā€™
ā€˜Youā€™re my friend.ā€™
His closest, truest friend.
Arthurā€™s face burned. Battling in tournaments in front of his people and fighting for his life against mercenaries and beasts was all well and easy, but this ā€“ looking Merlin in the eye and trying to get across his care and remorse and tentative hope for a renewed bond ā€“ took a different kind of bravery. He felt like was baring his soul, sitting here on a patient bed in the quiet workshop with Merlin, hoping that those meagre three words, whose truth was established years ago, would be enough to express his gratitude.
30.Ā Tell us an idea for a longfic you want to write in the future.
OK OK OKOK !!!!!! I canā€™t get this planned robin hood au out of my head! Iā€™m desperately trying to finish SMAE so I can get on with this!!!! Loosely: Uther is even Worse, Morgana is rightfully angry and a little evil, Arthur is kinda caught in the middle. Gwen & Merlin are banished or leave and thus begins the vigilante work ;) I still havenā€™t decided on how I want Gwenā€™s story to go or Morganaā€™s, or Arthurā€™s tbh, but I am very excited to get my teeth into it!! my friend says I need to stop making arthur suffer but i think it is very funny and good for character building lmao. also just love to see feral merlin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i canā€™t wait to actually write about a living, not-dead lancelot!!!!!!!
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lady-plantagenet Ā· 4 years ago
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What hasnā€™t already been said: The Spanish Princess 2
Episode 1: CamelNOT
[Lively Music Plays]
I shit you not... thatā€™s what it said in the CCs.
Tower of London (?)
*Catherine looks at the array of crowns like a museum curator and the proceeds to strut down the halls*
Wolsey: *gives her this strange look which is a mixture between damn girl and the eagle is my spirit animal.
Then Catherine gets fake detained and taken to Henry in what must be a strange variation of the whole Robin Hood/Maid Marian roleplay they historically engaged in.
... did she just call his erhm manhood his kingship? Well thatā€™s original, Iā€™ll give them that. Also funny how Bessie Blount initially looks on in fright... donā€™t worry girl that will be you soon.
ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€”
*the four ladies have a brunch friendship moment together*
I see Blount is among them... I see they are setting her up as Catherineā€™s friend in order to play up the whole betrayal.
Alright. Jokes aside, I realised how much Iā€™ve played myself. I was inspired by @melusineloriginale ā€˜s sporks (which if all this TSP episode posts got you in the mood for PG show mockery I urge you to check out here - youā€™ll thank me later). In truth, Henry VIIIā€™s early reign is a bit too late from my main area of focus for me to make intelligent jokes.
Iā€™ll content myself with just bullet-pointing random thoughts that came into my head, and if some intelligent thought gets through, well that would be the pinnacle. In any case Iā€™ll aim to not parrot some of the stuff thatā€™s already been said, repetition can get annoying.
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This image embodies this post, but maybe not the show. Iā€™ve noticed those Starz productions get better by the end.
First Scenes:
- The recap just reminded me how much I will miss Margaret Beaufort in the coming episodes. I know her portrayal was innacurate but Harriet Walter just made everything better.
- They are making such a big deal out of this whole ā€˜we were crowned together, we rule togetherā€™ thing in this episode - it makes no sense. Catherine was an influential Queen but she was definitely no more than a consort and never saw herself as more.
- Ruairiā€™s new haircut is pleasing to my eyes.
- When she says ā€˜Abueloā€™ itā€™s super adorable awww
The Ferdinand and Charles V scene:
- Bessie Blount looks so much like Ursula Pole lmao. Also they totally got the Pole childrenā€™s birth order wrong and UGH WHERE IS GEOFFREY POLE???
- I like Mary Tudorā€™s actress and her facial expressions. However, this whole polyglot image they are representing is innacurate. I am fairly certain she knew no spanish and I recall reading a contemporary account which said that she was not very learned.
- Iā€™m pretty sure it would be considered bad luck to prematurely crown your son ā€˜Henry IXā€™ while youā€™re still alive.
- I actually like the whole Grape motif in this episode. Itā€™s probably the smartest thing theyā€™ve come up with so far for this episode. I know a lot of you will be all like ā€˜thereā€™s no record of Ferdinand being abusiveā€™ but this choice sort of makes sense when you recall Joannaā€™s treatment. Also I appreciate them for not being tacky and showing flashbacks of more overt abuse eg physical. The sugared grape is also fairly symbolic (the sugar is like a gilding, the grape easily crushable)
- OMG the guy from Garrowā€™s law is playing Thomas More!
- AND PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME IM NOT SEEING THINGS? Margaret Pole x Thomas More is happening?? Please god that is a historical crackship I am getting behind. Yes. This is what Iā€™m most invested about.
Margaret Tudor and Scotland Scene:
- The whole ironic cutaway to Margaret being all depressed after Charles Brandonā€™s statement about her charming Scottish king is such a clichĆ© movie technique.
- If this were a more artsy film I would think the whole setup resembling a stereotypical middle-class family breakfast was done on purpose for humorous effects or to create a link with the past. But here I donā€™t have as much trust in the producers. I think they just failed to capture the time period accurately.
- The modernisms continue: ā€˜Negassi please stop playingā€™ idk, there just something so modern about this for some reason ahaha
- Also again, Iā€™m getting tired of all this ā€˜Catherine is basically queen herselfā€™, ā€˜Catherine is a political geniusā€™, ā€˜Catherine Catherine Catherineā€™ ugh. I donā€™t think the producers understand that Henry VIII was a very autocratic and traditional ruler. He didnā€™t make any show of joint-rulership (correct me if Iā€™m wrong).
- The teeth thing is funny, smart and I liked it.
Back to Westminster:
- I like Ferdinandā€™s actor!
- Also Catherineā€™s response to ā€˜who are you loyal to?ā€™ was not that smart. I feel like the producers wanted us to be impressed. What if Spain and Englandā€™s interests conflict, ey??
The Joust:
- I care too much for the whole Margaret Pole plotline. Iā€™m so invested.
- I could watch a series of More and Pole just exchanging lines. I love the actors too and this is my hope for this series. The whole frustrated parents is SO CUTE.
- I didnā€™t know More tutored Reggie, I would be curious to know more.
- The way compton says groom to queenā€™s stool is freaking hilarious. He looks like a pervert.
- Henry Pole is a darling and must be protected at all costs.
- Oh Christ oh Christ that eyeball shot was just... good job on the special effects guys. Donā€™t know what the point of that choice was.
- I found the whole armour mentions after interesting, it looked so set up as a PR campaign because Stafford speaking about the armour just sounded like a statement agreed on beforehand ā€˜should have worn the sameā€™ and the Catherine with ā€˜steel in the bonesā€™ and Ferdinandā€™s impressed face (it was him playing them?)
- Am I giving this show too much credit?
- Also whats up with ā€œGod save the Queen?ā€
War Counsel:
- Henry VIIIā€™s actor is quite charismatic in this scene. Itā€™s almost as if Catherine is the hothead and Henry the wise one that speaks less but more significantly. It almost feels like they gender-swapped them.
The Bedchamber:
- Did Catherine breastfeed the baby? I thought it was Anne Boleyn. Doubtful... Iā€™m tired of the trope of ā€˜youā€™re a good woman if you insist on breastfeeding the child yourself despite social conventionsā€™. For a feminist show, the writers seem very attached to some 1950s perceptions of motherhood.
- I feel like the age difference between Catherine and Henry is well conveyed.
Scotland Again:
- ā€˜All the sheep were pregnantā€™ šŸ‘€ oh touchĆ© Margaret. oh my. Did she just?
- I know they are playing out this disenfranchised Margaret arc to reinforce how great Catherine and Henry are (cheap technique) and to build up to her involvement in Flodden (innacurate historically but I know what the show will do). But I will say this: the humour is pretty good in the Scottish scenes! But I know itā€™s unintentionally so... (I highly doubt they wanted us to laugh at Margaret hitting James or calling Alexander a pig).
Westminster and the baby chamber:
- Whatā€™s are those red splotches on the babies face??
- Oh that shot of Margaret and silent Reginald :((( it makes me sad.
- And now the Poles are at church! I just love the look of them.
- That scene of Maggie and Catherine was needed, as we didnā€™t get the best friends vibe much in this episode. The whole thing looked a bit pagan though, but it was nice :)
The whole Ferdinandā€™s betrayal segment:
- The grape motif again was fitting, him snapping the fruit right before she gets to it even despite her knowing what heā€™s like and what heā€™ll do, was a good parrallel.
- Iā€™m tired of hearing of this ā€˜Camelotā€™. Even in the novel, Camelot was Catherine and Arthurā€™s dream and... can we just live it up with Arthur?
- Ursula Poleā€™s, Bessie Blountā€™s and Mary Boleynā€™s actresses look way too similar.
- I fail to see why Catherine thinks sheā€™s turning into her father... she doesnā€™t strike me as much of a game-player or subtle two-facer.
- Iā€™m intrigued what will happen with Oviedo and Lina... I feel like they wonā€™t stay in England long.
- He was made knight bannaret... nice... but why does he thank Catherine publicly for this? It was in Henryā€™s gift that he was made a commoner Knight.. if this transpired irl Henry would have been gravely insulter.
Catherineā€™s Dead Baby and thereafter:
- Guys. In all seriousness, I donā€™t think the TV series is trying to imply that Catherine killed the baby with her negligence. I mean, they are so bent on us liking her they wouldnā€™t do that. It would be a bit too ballsy anyway. Remember the red splotches I mentioned earlier? Could those have been a sign that he was already ill but no one noticed/was in denial?
- The pebbles in hands would have had more emotional payoff if it had been established earlier if you know what I mean. Basically, this episode is too fast and entire arcs begin and end within it which extinguished any build-up.
- Oh man Henry is so sweet in this, how will they build him up as the tyrant he was historically if they keep this up?
Scotland Again:
- I must admit, I donā€™t like all those nicknames they keep using. But somehow James calling Margaret ā€˜Megā€™ is nice and seems fitting.
- Whatā€™s a hermana sister?
England Last Mourning Scenes:
- YOU DID NOT BUILD CAMELOT ughhh
- Why is Catherine giving the speech and not Henry?? It turns out Catherine was more emotional historically then the whole perception of ā€˜perfect queen of stoneā€™ to which some people hold her. However, I doubt it would have been proper of her to give a speech in such a emotional manner.
Conclusion:
6.5/10
Some of the dialogue was stilted, the costumes are confused as to which era theyā€™re supposed to be (aesthetically distracting) and many other characterisation issues.
I donā€™t have high hopes for this series in terms of cinematography or art but I sure as hell expect it will be entertaining. So far, everything is just getting set up and I find some aspects promising. As you can tell I am truly excited over how the Margaret Pole plotline. I am also interested in how Henry will be portrayed, with Catherine being so OTT and pushy this episode Im starting to Stan him more. In this show he appears sensitive and serene and kinda... adorable. Kind of like a little brother hanging onto his sisterā€™s skirts.
But in a way that is a disservice to the real historical figure which would not tolerate such a representation. I am very irritated by this whole ā€˜joint-rulersā€™ thing which is just sooo innacurate. These STARZ shows have an obsession with showing women turn into men for the purposes of feminism - I see.
Catherine overpowers Henry too often and it sometimes feels like heā€™s HER consort. Of course, the feminism in this show is schizophrenic as we get the overemphasis of Catherine as a 1950s motherly ideal with the whole breastfeeding angle (ā€œyouā€™re better than other noble woman who would find this beneath themā€, ā€œtheyā€™re not as motherly as youā€).
So the relationship dynamic between Henry and Catherine is a bit off at the moment, but oh well.
Mary Tudor is a bit distracting with her dark hair but I find the actress extremely endearing and promising. I know there will be emphasis on her storyline too and I hope theyā€™ll not be clichĆ©d with it.
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calliecat93 Ā· 4 years ago
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Callieā€™s Disney Princess Retrospective: The Little Mermaid
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By the time of 1989, The Walt Disney Company was in itā€™s Dark Age. Walt had passed, the Nine Old Men were retiring, and their films were viewed as jokes. The Dark Age tends to get what I feel is an overly harsh reputation, but thatā€™s not what weā€™re here for. The cold hard truth is Disney was a shadow of its former self. Their films just werenā€™t getting the same praise as they once did, and now with Don Bluth gaining success, with films like An American TaleĀ and The Land Before Time, they werenā€™t even the top studio anymore. Their lowest point was the colossal failure of The Black CauldronĀ and while films like The Great Mouse DetectiveĀ earned some praise, it was just never enough. Theyā€™d start getting some steam with Who Framed Roger Rabbit?Ā but considering that they commissioned Richard Williamā€™s studio in England over Disneyā€™s own animation studio, it seemed that even the company itself was losing faith in their own talents.
That all changed, however, with the release of their 28th animated feature. This would be the film that changed everything. It brought Disney back into prominence after years of being laughing stocks. It would enter the animation medium into its Renaissance, a time still fondly remembered by many. And for the purposes of this series, it is the film that both resurrected and revitalized the Disney Princess franchise. All of this would be due to 1989ā€™s The Little Mermaid.
Overview
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Ariel is a mermaid, but she dreams of one day being able to be part of the human world. Always collecting whatever surface world treasures she can find, to her fatherā€™s disapproval, Ariel one day stumbles upon a ship celebrating the birthday of the handsome Prince Eric. Itā€™s love at first sight, but as he is a human, her father King Triton reacts negatively. Hurt, Ariel goes to the sea witch Ursula, who grants her human legs at the cost of her voice. To remain human, Ariel has three days to get Eric to fall in love with her and kiss her. But Ursula has her own wicked plans for Ariel, plans that will endanger both land and sea. Will Ariel be able to get Eric to fall in love with her and become part of his world? Or will Ursula triumph?
Review
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I have been waiting for this day for SO LONG. Do you want to know why I decided to do this series, to begin with? Aside from 2020 driving me to insanity? Itā€™s because while the complaints against the Disney Princesses in general have frustrated me for as long as I can remember, there were two in particular that alwaysĀ made my blood boil because they made no sense. Cinderella was the first one, which I already covered. The other? Ariel. I think you all know what Iā€™m referring to here, but letā€™s put a pin in it for now. We have a LOT to discuss before we get to analyzing Ariel herself. First, let's go over the film.
The film is based on the story of the same name by Hans Christian Anderson. Walt himself had actually planned it long before, but sadly was never able to make it a reality. When the directors pitched it, at first it was denied due to Disney having already releasing a mermaid film called Splash not too long ago. But it was allowed to continue to be worked on as a future project and after a great deal of tweaking, expansion, and reworking, it was approved as a feature film to come out after Oliver and Company. There were a LOT of changes from the original story. The sea witch went from neutral to the villain, characters were expanded and added, and of course the story of unrequited love that ended with the little mermaid committing suicide was thrown out all together. A lot of the story basis was still there, but Disney was taking it and making it their own arguably even moreso than with the Classic Three.
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The animation is fantastic. Many of the films prior like The Rescuers and Oliver and Company, while they looked nice, had thisā€¦ roughness to it. I mean they were outright recycling animation for a good while, with Robin HoodĀ being the biggest example. But the animation here is some of the nicest, most fluid that theyā€™ve had in quite a long time. Itā€™s colorful, expressive, and grand in feel. This is especially true with the musical numbers. I mean Under the SeaĀ has SO much going on, and it is a true spectacle! Itā€™s especially prominent when Ariel is mute. Since she canā€™t express herself with words, the animation hadĀ to be on point so that we could still understand her thoughts and feelings. They did an amazing job. From things like her visual glee at being human when going to bed the first night, to her annoyingly blowing her bangs during the canoe ride, turning into excited glee when Eric guesses her name. It helps Ariel feel more like a three-dimensional character and illustrates everything to us that words couldnā€™t at that point.
The biggest animation challenge for this film would be to convincingly portray the illusion of being under water. They had to convince us that Ariel was living under the sea, and Iā€™d say they did a pretty good job. It is no easy task and trying to describe it isā€¦ hard. But I never had any doubt that they were underwater, especially compared to the scenes that wereĀ on the surface/ just look at how Ariel's hair is constantly flowing compared to how it sits when on the surface. Itā€™s that attention to detail that I always appreciate. The opening especially, seeing the underwater landscape thriving as we see the silhouetted merpeople until the grand reveal of King Tritonā€™s castle. Not to mention the seashore setting of Ericā€™s own castle and kingdom, a perfect match for this sort of movie. As someone who loves water/seaside settings, itā€™s always a joy to see!
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While several of these people worked on the Dark Age films, this is really the first film that allows the then-new talent of Disney to shine. The directors were John Musker and Ron Clements, who are VERY important names to the Princess line. They not only gave us Ariel but also Jasmine, Tiana, and Moana. Theyā€™ve been attached to many of Disneyā€™s most beloved films and event cult classics like The Great Mouse DetectiveĀ and Treasure PlanetĀ (both of which you should watch). You also have animators such as Glen Keane, who would go on to animate Pocahontas and Rapunzel and work on some of the future princes (The Beast and Aladdin), and Mark Henn who would animate Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas (alongside Keane), Mulan, and Tiana. They both would be the supervising animators for Ariel, and go on to have veryĀ successful careers in future productions.Ā 
But this film also gave us what may have been the best decision that the new management ever made. For the music, they hired lyricist Howard Ashman, who chose composer Alan Menken to collaborate with him. I cannot stress enough how important these twoā€™s contributions were for this (and the next film weā€™ll be discussing) production, especially the former. Ashman became very passionate about this project and was very influential on itā€™s direction to the point of being credited as a producer. Menken of course would go on to have a LONG, successful career as a composer on many of the Renaissance films. Many of which weā€™ll be touching on in this retrospective. These guys won two Oscars for The Little MermaidĀ for a reason.
I havenā€™t talked a whole lot about the music in these films outside a little bit about the main song. Thatā€™s because while not unimportant, the music didnā€™t really move the story along. Like Someday My Prince Will Come/ is cute, but does it really drive anything forward? Or tell us anything about Snow White that we didnā€™t already know from Iā€™m Wishing? Not really. Ashman, using his stage musical experience, wanted to use that kind of styling with The Little Mermaid. To use music to add depth to both the characters and to the story. Weā€™re all used to most Disney films being this Broadway-esque spectacle nowadays, but this film was the first to truly do so. Considering how this formula is still being used to this day, I think itā€™s safe to say that it was VERY successful. Again, the music won two Oscars for a reason. Heck for a LONG time, the music was all that Disney was able to win from The Academy, so that says a LOT as to how good this was.
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So now that weā€™ve made it here, Iā€™m going to discuss the vocal tracks individually and give my thoughts on each of the major ones:
Fathoms Below: Might be the most underrated song of the bunch. Itā€™s in the style of a sea-shanty discussing the legends of what is below the sea. Itā€™s a great intro to the film, letting us know right off the bat what kind of movie we are in for. I know that it sure had me invested~
Part of Your World/Reprise: Iā€™m gonna go more into depth on the songā€™s meanings when we analyze Ariel, but this song is perfect. Itā€™s the song that tells us Arielā€™s wants and dreams and Jodi Benson does such a great job putting so many different emotions into it. The animators also did a fantastic job with the expressions, fully showcasing Arielā€™s longing, sadness, and desperation to be part of a world that she cannot. The reprise equally does a great job showcasing her evolving revolve, going from ā€˜longingā€™ to ā€˜determinedā€™. The song is fondly remembered for a reasonā€¦ and it almost didnā€™t make it into the film. During screen testings, Jeffrey Katzenberg (the studio head at the time) wanted the sequence cut as the kid audience was ā€˜boredā€™ and ā€˜restlessā€™. The directors and Ashman HEAVILY disagreed and argued back, with Glen Keane ultimately being the one to convince Katzenberg to keep the scene. Thank God for it because this adds such a strong, emotional core to both the story and to Arielā€™s character and it would have taken so much away if removed. I love it~
Under the Sea: This was the number that won the Oscar. Iā€¦ find it the most overrated track tbh. Not that itā€™s bad, FAR from it. Itā€™s probably the best animation-wise with how much is going on. Sebastian somehow managed to conductā€¦ all the sea life into a mass spectacle that certainly had me convinced to living under the sea. The calypso style is very fitting and fun, and Samuel E Wright sings it with so much passion. I guess that I find it overrated because I just like other songs more, but this is still a true showstopper thatā€™s worth revisiting.
Poor Unfortunate Souls: Aside from I think Cruella DeVille (and even then Rogerā€™s the one singing it), I think that this is the first true villain song in a Disney film. If so, then they started on a GLORIOUS note. I love this song! It was THE perfect song for Ursula. The first half with her fake reformed villain act but with this condescending air to it (Pat Carrollā€™s delivery with theĀ  ā€˜Patheticā€™ line is perfection) was already grand, but the second half? Pat Carroll just lets loose and goes utterly insane. It is AMAZING and has so much charisma to it that you canā€™t help but be invested. Itā€™s also very creepy, especially in the end with Ursula's cauldron bubbling and especially how she takes Arielā€™s voice. This would inspire many great villain songs in the future and to this day remains one of the all-time greats.
Les Poissons: I never thought that seeing a chef cook would be so horrifyingā€¦ the song is fine. Itā€™s a silly sequence, albeit morbid from poor Sebastianā€™s perspective, and Rene Auberjonois did a fantastic job despite the song being pretty short. Itā€™s my least favorite track, mainly because it doesnā€™t really add or enhance anything. But it was funā€¦ poor Senastian though XD
Kiss the Girl: The love song of the film. I love the animation for this one. I mean whatā€™s more romantic than taking a canoe out on the lake? Thatā€™s where Iā€™d want my first date to end! The mood is set so well with the use of shadows and once more, Sebastian is able to conduct a spectacle effortlessly. Once more Samuel E Wright does a fabulous job singing, this time with a serenade style. Even if poor Scuttle didnā€™t get the appreciation that he deserved. Let the seagull sing, dang it! The only thing that ruins it is the eels capsizing the canoe, jerks! But yeah a beautiful serenade that is bound to convince anyone toā€¦ well, kiss the girl XD
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And thatā€™s not even getting into Alan Menkenā€™s score! Alan Menken is my favorite composer of all time, so I love everything that he has ever done. I still remember the opening, hearing the instrumental of Part of Your World and immediately became invested in this film. The man is an EGOT for a reason, and this is only one of the many fantastic soundtracks that weā€™ll be discussing in this review. He also did some additional music for the Broadway version of the film, and thereā€™s a whole body of demo work that he and Ashman did that you can probably find on Youtube, Spotify, or whatever music streaming service you use. Listen to Ashmanā€™s rendition of Part of Your World, you WILL be driven to tears.
So now we get to charactersā€¦ and HO BOY do we have a lot. For the sake of this review we will be going over King Triton, Sebastian, Flounder, Scuttle, Ursula, Prince Eric, and as per usual Ariel will have her own section at the end.
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King Triton, while not evil, serves as an antagonist early on in the film. By all appearances, Triton is a capable ruler who wields a great deal of power due to his triton. He appears just, and for the most part he is as well as a caring father. The only problem isā€¦ well, his anger issues. Triton HATES humans and the surface world. Weā€™re never told why aside from him calling them ā€˜fish-eatersā€™ (the DTV prequel suggests itā€™s due to the death of his wife, but the canonicity is debatable), but considering that his youngest daughterā€™s greatest passion is learning about the surface worldā€¦ yeah. Needless to say, they have issues between them. But he is otherwise loving and was even excited that Ariel may have found love until he found out about their species. With how overprotective he is, that was a nice subversion despite how brief it was.
Triton often gets the ā€˜abusiveā€™ label thrown against him and while I do think that thatā€™s a littleĀ too strong, there is no denying that his hatred and anger affects Ariel emotionally. He may have seen destroying Arielā€™s grotto as for her own good and is likely the culmination of however long Arielā€™s been going to the surface finally boiling over. But to do this right in front of her when she is begging him to stop and outright ridiculing her for saving Ericā€™s lifeā€¦ yeah. Itā€™sā€¦ itā€™s a horrifying scene that does NOT make Triton look good and is what pushes Ariel into seeing Ursula. It doesnā€™t matter the reason, destroying your childrenā€™s things is something that WILL scar them emotionally. To be far, the moment Ariel breaks down Triton clearly realizes that he crossed the line, but he just leaves becauseā€¦ yeah there was NO WAY that they were reaching a reconciliation at that moment.
Triton has a lot of issues, but the reason I donā€™t call him abusive and like him as a character is because after the grotto scene, he was clearly remorseful. After Ariel goes missing, he outright says ā€˜What have I done?ā€ and his demeanor expresses a lot of remorse. If that wasnā€™t enough, I think that him both selling his soul to free Ariel AND turning her human after realizing how much she loved Eric more than showed that he has learned his lesson. Triton had to learn to allow Ariel to grow up and choose her own direction in life, even if he didnā€™t like said direction. Itā€™s very relatable to how some parents struggle to let go of their children as they grow up. My only real complaint is, as I said, we donā€™t know whyĀ Triton hates humans so much. If we did and saw him work through it, it may have helped us understand why he was so against Arielā€™s passions and not come off as needlessly cruel as he did. Nevertheless, he realized his wrongs and made it right. His hug with Ariel at the end is one that gets me every time.
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The sidekicks of the film are Flounder, Scuttle, and Sebastian. IDK why they named Flounder Flounder because he isnā€™tā€¦ well, a flounder. He looks like some kind of tropical fish. Flounder is kind of the kid appeal character, even being voiced by a child in all incarnations except Return to the SeaĀ since he had grown up. He is Arielā€™s best friend who goes with her on her adventures, despite almost always being easily frightened. Heā€™s well-meaning, but can cause more trouble like when he accidentally exposed Arielā€™s excursion during the concert. But heā€™s also a sweet little guy and very loyal to Ariel. The kid outright went out of his way to somehow recover the Eric statue, which is ten times his size, and deliver it to her grotto to make her happy. That is friendship. He doesnā€™t really develop, but heā€™s a nice supporting character.
Scuttle isā€¦ well, dumb. But a fun dumb. Heā€™s a surface creature and thus has more knowledge about surface world items than Ariel doesā€¦ except he doesnā€™t. Heā€™s not smart, but they manage to keep him entertaining because heā€™s so sure that he knows what heā€™s talking about. Imo, dinglehoppers are a MUCH better name for forks than forks, dang it! He tries to help, like it wasĀ his idea to try the serenade during the canoe rideā€¦ too bad that he canā€™t hold a note. Poor bird tried. They also DO allow him to be useful at the end, discovering that Ursula had tricked Eric and he amassed one heck of an army to humiliate her long enough for Ariel to reach the ship. It is one of the funniest AND most awesome moments in the whole film. Scuttle is just fun comedic relief who doesnā€™t overstay his welcome and his VA Buddy Hackett did such a great job~
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But if thereā€™s any character aside from Ariel that we remember from this film, itā€™s Sebastian. This Jamaican crab is the royal musical conductor and Tritonā€™s advisor. Heā€™s often the one who has to watch over Ariel, which clearly frustrates him on multiple occasions. Tbh, Sebastian probably has the most character development in the film. In the beginning, while understandably upset that Ariel being a no-show ruined his conducting debut (though tbfā€¦ NO ONE bothered to make sure she was in place? Really?), heā€™s mainly upset that /he/ looked bad. After the storm, heā€™s more concerned about getting into trouble with Triton than about Ariel herself. He knows how much the human world means to her, and while one can argue that Ariel /should/ be more aware of how her actions affect others, Sebastian isnā€™t much better. He only discourages her to save his own shell, not for her own good. Which eventually leads to him breaking and exposing what happened during the storm when he should know damn well that Triton will explode. Yeah it was because he misunderstood, but still.
However, Sebastian isnā€™t a bad crab. After the grotto's destruction, he immediately feels guilty and tries to apologize to Ariel, but she angrily dismisses him. He tries to convince Ariel to not go to Ursula, but as sheā€™s still upset she bitterly brushes him off and tells him to get her father since heā€™s good at that. He therefore follows with only Flounder and at first, panics after Ariel is human. Itā€™s understandable becauseā€¦ yeah, thatā€™s bad. His first reaction is to get Triton to fix this, with Ariel trying to stop him. Once he sees the heartbroken look on her face, Sebastian realizes just how miserable Ariel would be back home. At this point, it's reasonable to assume that Triton will only be stricter about letting her have her ventures, and thus sheā€™d be stuck in an unhappy life. This, along with the situation at least being partially his fault, convinces Sebastian to hold off and help Ariel win Eric over. Which he certainly tries his best.Ā 
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One of my favorite scenes is Ariel going to bed and being so excited to experience these new things as Sebastian tries to advise her on getting Eric to kiss her. But he stops when he sees that Ariel has fallen asleep with the biggest smile on her face, and he just affectionately calls her a ā€˜hopeless childā€™. The affection in his expressions and Samuel E Wrightā€™s delivery is just so sincere and it really shows that for all his bluster, Sebastian does care for Ariel. The crab is also a seriously talented conductor. Like I said, he put together both Under the SeaĀ AND Kiss the GirlĀ in zero time and theyā€™re both amazing numbers because of it. He really tries hard to help Ariel and once Ursula strikes again, he decides itā€™s finally been long enough and gets King Triton. Sure that doesnā€™t go well, but at that point it was absolutely the right call. He also helps fight off Flotsam and Jetsam, willing to put himself in harmā€™s way to help both Ariel and Eric.Ā 
Sebastian became a much more understanding, more selfless crab over the course of the film, realizing that he needs to care less about saving his own skin and to understand why Ariel does what she does. Itā€™s especially notable at the end. In the beginning, he advised Triton to keep a firm grip on Ariel when he asks if he was too harsh. At the end? He advises him that children have to be free to lead their own lives, which is what convinces Triton to grant Ariel legs. Itā€™s a really nice character arc and this along with Sebastianā€™s two spectacular musical numbers leaves no question as to why heā€™s so beloved.
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But whatā€™s a great film without a great villain? For that we get one of the best, Ursula the Sea Witch. She is a fantasticĀ villainess. Sheā€™s a large octopus woman who used to work in the palace, but for reasons unknown got banished. In early versions, she was going to be Tritonā€™s sister which would have added a VERY twisted dynamic to the whole thing. Maybe thatā€™s where they got the idea for Scar in The Lion Kingā€¦ anyways! Her design was based on Drag Queen Divine who was also going to be the VA for Ursula, but she sadly passed away of an enlarged heart before any recording to be done. After going through various performers, the production staff settled on actress Pat Carroll, who did a spectacularĀ job. You can just tell that she is loving every single second of this role, and she has alwaysĀ happily returned whenever they need new Ursula material like in House of MouseĀ or in the parks. Just listen as she goes off the chain in Poor Unfortunate SoulsĀ that is some amazing acting.
Ursula is confident, manipulative, and a true actress. Her entire gimmick is manipulating vulnerable, insecure people into making deals with her. Deals that are pretty much impossible to keep and thus, she claims them as hers and adds them to her ā€˜gardenā€™. She targets Ariel specifically because of her passion for the surface world and since she likely knows of Tritonā€™s hatred for it AND of his anger problems, sheā€™s just waiting for the day he screws up and Ariel is vulnerable. Iā€™m gonna go MUCH more in depth with this when we get to Ariel, but this is SO important to note. Ursula struck when Ariel was hurt, emotional, and not thinking straight. It shows just how manipulative she can be. This is who she preys on. She knowsĀ how to sway them to act how she wants them to. Sheā€™s a saleswoman, and BOY does she sell it. It doesn't help that she gives Ariel very little personal space and manipulates her feelings for Eric to be further swayed. Yet Ariel is the stupid one because she was manipulated by a master manipulatorā€¦ patience Callie, youā€™re gonna be able to let it out soon enoughā€¦
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Ursula works so well as a villain because of how smart and manipulative she is. Like I said, she knows how to prey on the vulnerable and insecure. But she also knows when to get herself involved. After Ariel almost kisses Eric on the second day, Ursula disguises herself and uses Arielā€™s voice to hypnotize Eric. And even though Scuttle and his undersea army humiliate her and Ariel gets her voice back, she bought just enough time for the sun to set and the spell breaks. Ursula won. She captured Ariel, forced Triton to sell himself to save his daughter, and claimed ultimate power. It was a truly methodical plan that ultimately succeeded. You gotta give her props for that.
Donā€™t make any mistakes though. While Ursula is intelligent and confident, she /is/ still evil. Iā€™ve seen people say that she should have won just because they donā€™t like the ā€˜abusive tyrantā€™ Triton. Aside from what I already said about Triton above, Ursula is shown to be far, FAR worse. I meanā€¦ I hate to use the term, but she essentially s***-shames Ariel throughout Poor Unfortunate Souls. I mean she outright calls her a ā€˜little trampā€™ after the canoe scene, which in this context is a G-Rated way of calling her a s***. To a sixteen year old. Yeahā€¦ plus we saw how power-mad she went once she got the triton, and it didnā€™t bode well for either land or sea. Tritonā€™s temperamental, but he isnā€™t a tyrant. Ursulaā€™s only redeeming trait is that she DOES care for her henchmen Flotsam and Jetsam, and their death at Arielā€™s hand is what provoked her to go mad with power. This was ultimately her undoing as she was so focused on tormenting Ariel that it allowed Eric to take his ship and kill her. Itā€™s a pretty gruesome Disney Villain Death (we outright see her SKELETON FLASHING at one point), but she brought it upon herself.
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If you asked me what villain helped shape many of the ones we got during the Renaissanceā€¦ Iā€™d say Professor Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective. But Ursula was the first Renaissance villain, and she started it off right. Sheā€™s enjoyable enough that we love it when sheā€™s on screen, but still detestable enough that we want her to lose. Many complain about doing ā€˜purely evilā€™ villains. That villains HAVE to be sympathetic or nuanced, otherwise they are poorly written. While thereā€™s nothing wrong with sympathetic, or even redeemable villains, having a purely evil one is also perfectly fine. Disney is the master of this. Ursulaā€™s motivation is strictly to gain power, but it works because they give her character so much personality and charisma. Petty motivation, but excellent character writing that makes us not mind. Iā€™d say if you want to learn how to do a Pure Evil character right, study Ursula in particular along with Jafar and Hades. Theyā€™re all great examples of how to do it right.
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Finally we come to our leading man, Prince Eric. So far the Disney Princes have acted more as a necessity than anything. Itā€™s as I said in the Sleeping Beauty Review, Florian and Charming fill out a plot point and while he was more proactive in comparison, Phillip fell into the same trap. Did Eric finally break the curse? Wellā€¦ yes and no. He's a firm middle ground between ā€˜necessityā€™ and ā€˜actual characterā€™. Heā€™s allowed FAR more than any of the other princes thus far. Eric is a seasman, he loves going out on the ocean in his ships. Heā€™s adventurous, good-looking, and an overall nice guy. We see that he isnā€™t really into fancy stuff, outright cringing when Grimsby unveils the statue. He also isnā€™t interested in Grimsby trying to set him up with various noble women. Like Jasmine and to a degree Prince Charming, he wants to find love for love, but on his own time. These are the traits that attract Ariel to him. Plus heā€™s also heroic, going back to a BURNING SHIP in order to save his dog Maxā€¦ yeah Iā€™d fall in love with him too.
After Ariel saves him, Eric becomes determined to find her. But he only briefly saw her face and heard her voice. Funny how NO ONE gets on Eric for this while hating on Ariel, but again weā€™ll get to that soon enough. When he meets Ariel he recognizes her faceā€¦ but since she canā€™t talk, assumes that she canā€™t be the mystery girl. Still, being a good person, he takes her back to the palace to give her shelter. Itā€™s not long before he becomes endeared by her though. Sheā€™s pretty, sweet, and even though she canā€™t talk he has a good time showing her around the kingdom. It's so clear by /Kiss the Girl/ that he has fallen for her, to the point that even Grimsby points it out to him. It gets him to give up on the mystery girl which is VERY important. It shows us that Eric didnā€™t fall for Ariel because she happened to be the girl he was looking for, but because of who she is as a person. It shows the audience that his feelings are genuine which makes us further root for him and Arielā€¦ too bad that Ursula goes and ruins it.
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As far as personality goes, Eric is more fun than his predecessors, but heā€™s still stuck with the standard prince-like personality. Heā€™s given more lines than all of them combined and has a real charm to him. You can see whyĀ Ariel would like a guy like him. Heā€™s kind, fun, adventurous, and even a little rebellious. He is her ideal vision of what humans are like. The end of the film lets him prove himself as well, going out to help Ariel despite the danger and of course using his own ship to kill Ursula. It does cause Ariel to be a bit of a Damsel in Distress, but she DID save him much earlier and she stops Ursula from blasting him to smithereens, so it balances out. It was enough to prove himself to Triton, at least. So Eric is a nice step up as far as princes go, but weā€™re not quite out of the well with them yet. But it wonā€™t be much longer, heehee XD
Thereā€™s other supporting characters that I really don't have much to say about. Arielā€™s sisters are nicely designed, but ultimately bland. I think the series and Arielā€™s BeginningĀ did more with them, but otherwise thereā€™s not anything to discuss. Grimsby is fine enough, being the closest thing that Eric has to a parental figure (where ARE Ericā€™s parents in all of this anyways?) and is stuffy, but otherwise a decent guy. Chef Louie isā€¦ crazy. Thatā€™s all that I can say. This film has a lot of characters, letā€™s put it that way. But of course, we have one more to go over. The titular little mermaid herself. Iā€™ve been hinting at this throughout the review, so I think you all know exactly how this will goā€¦
Ariel Analysis
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I cannot stress enough how massive a step Ariel was for the Disney Princess line. As much as I have defended the Classic Three and standby all of that, there is certainly some repetition going one with them. All three are beautiful, passive, and canā€™t directly do much to accomplish their dreams. And at least two of them are dreaming mainly about a man, which is NOT a bad thing, but it was certainly getting old. Feminism has also been evolving since 1959, the last time a Disney Princess film came out. A lot had changed in those thirty years. Women in media could now be more proactive, take matters into their own hands, and have their own hopes and dreams that werenā€™t just about love while still being allowed to find love. Simply put, as much as I love Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora, the times had changed and it was time for Disney to get with those times. Thus we got Ariel, and she was exactly the right princess to take the line into a whole new direction.
The beginning of the film is a pretty clever way to set her up. The Classic Three are known for being angelic singers, and for good reason. Itā€™s pretty much the first thing they do when we meet them (well, as an adult in Auroraā€™s case) so the concert sets this up. Itā€™s Arielā€™s ā€˜debutā€ and her sisters all have the looks and angelic voices that fit the archetypal Disney Princess. But then the shell opens upā€¦ and is empty. Then we cut to Ariel, who is about to go inside a sunken ship to look for surface world artifacts. It is an excellent subversion, setting up a Classic Princess move and flipping it on itā€™s head. Itā€™s shown very quickly that Ariel is adventurous and actively seeking out her dreams despite her situation instead of trying to just make do with the way things were and hoping for the best. We also get a fun sequence of her and Flounder escaping a shark, so first time a Princess got an action scene as well.
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The film very quickly establishes Arielā€™s love and fascination with the surface world. Exploring sunken ships, going to Scuttle to get more information, later we see her grotto that is filled with so many items that we would consider standard, but that she considers treasures. These mean so much to her. She finds the surface world ā€˜wonderfulā€™. But there are setbacks and consequences for her actions, in this case her forgetting about the concert. She didn't mean to and feels bad about it, and Flounder mentioning the reason why didnā€™t help. Itā€™s clear that Ariel and Triton have been arguing about this for a long time, the latter failing to understand how much this means to Ariel and is at his witā€™s end. His demands for her to stop upset her, causing her to storm out of the throne room and head for her grotto.
This leads to Part of Your World. This song/sequence is vitalĀ to understand Arielā€™s character. This is the song where she expresses all her hopes and dreams. How she wants to be human. How she wants to learn more about the surface world. How she wants to experience things like walking down a street or finding out how a fire can burn. Throughout the film, we never learn how Ariel got so interested in human culture and just why sheā€™s so passionate about it. But we really donā€™t need an in-depth explanation because this song conveys so much sincerity and emotion that it makes us believe in her passion. We understand how much this matters to her, and in turn it makes it matter to us. Itā€™s why if it had gotten removed, it would have robbed Ariel of this depth and in turn, rob the film of something essential to its story. Thank God it remained intact.
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This is a good time to talk about Arielā€™s voice actress, Jodi Benson. Having originally been in Howard Ashmanā€™s failed musical Smile, she was brought in originally as Arielā€™s singing voice before being promoted to also doing the speaking the lines. This was not only her voice acting debut, but as far as I can tell her film debut as well. She did such a lovely job in the role. She perfectly conveys Arielā€™s passion, drive, and sincerity while still coming off as a sixteen year old girl. Her singing voice has been rightfully praised, and to this day Ariel is often considered the best singer among the princesses. Benson has gone on to do other voice roles such as Barbie in the Toy Story films, Patsy and Ms. Doe in Camp Lazlo, and Aquagirl in Batman Beyond. She has continued to reprise Ariel to this day when needed and has always expressed so much love and gratitude for the film and her part in it, Sheā€™s also supported others who have done the role like Auliā€™i Cravallho (aka Moana) for the ABC Musical and Halle Bailey for the upcoming live-action remake. Sheā€™s a lovely woman and may she continue to do well~
Going back to the film, Ariel finds herself at a ship and this is where she sees Eric for the first time. Itā€™s love at first sight. Of the Renaissance Era Princesses, Ariel is the one who gets the ā€˜love at first sightā€™ critique levied at her the most. Belle and Mulan of course didnā€™t have that issue and I usually see Jasmine and Pocahontas be given a free pass in this regard. Now of the five, The Little Mermaid IS the most blatant with the trope, but letā€™s look at it through Arielā€™s POV. This is the first time that sheā€™s seen so many humans up close. Eric is around her age (to my knowledge, at least. His VA was 16 at the time IIRC). It is very quickly established that Eric is jovial, uninterested in things like statues in his image, rebellious as he has rejected all the women Grimsby has arranged him with, and wants to find love for himself. He has many of the traits that Ariel herself has, being a rebellious, free-spirit teen herself. But most of all he is heroic, as demonstrated when he goes back to his burning ship to save his dog.
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In other words, Eric is Arielā€™s ideal vision of what people are like. She saves him from drowning, the first time that a Princess has saved her Prince, and is able to look at him more closely. She is clearly infatuated and seeing this man, this good-hearted, handsome young man who is everything that she ever dreamed of. This is what pushes her from just dreaming about being human to swearing that somehow she /will/ be human. Yes, she gets motivated by love, but the goal was there before this moment. It just became a solidified goal. One that she is going to make a reality someway, somehow. She even notes in the Part of Your World Reprise that she doesnā€™t know when or how, but it doesnā€™t matter. Compared to how fleeting her hopes were in the main song, the reprise is so much more triumphant and determined and continues to show just how important this truly is to Ariel.
Sadly however she still has one obstacle in between her and her dream; her father. The next day she is so happy and lovesick and itā€™s really cute, but Sebastian knows that this is going to cause major issues with her father. His big Under the Sea plea goes ignored, and Ariel is led to her grotto by Flounder, who has brought her the Eric statue. Sheā€™s so happy and acting likeā€¦ well, a teenager in love. But unfortunately due to Sebastian jumping the gun, Triton finds out and he is enraged. Not only is he angry that Ariel again went to the surface, but she both saved and fell in loveĀ with a human. Thus we get the dark scene of Triton, in his rage, destroying the grotto. Every item, treasure, and relic that Ariel has gathered for who knows how long has become nothing but a pile of dust. Including the statue of the man she loves.Ā 
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Say what you want about ā€˜love at first sightā€™ or Ariel being a lovesick dummy, but this is outright traumatizing. This sixteen year old girl, a girl who aside from forgetting a few engagements has done nothing wrong, had all of her hopes and dreams shattered by her own father all because of his own blind hatred. Imagine being a teenager and your parents destroying everything you love all because they hated something that you loved. Even if Triton regretted it, it doesnā€™t change the pain that he inflicted upon his own daughter as she breaks down. Sheā€™s so upset that she rejects Sebastian trying to apologize and just tells him and Flounder to go away. They comply, leaving Ariel to cry in her now bare grottoā€¦ that is, until Flotsam and Jetsam appear.
So.. letā€™s now talk about Ariel going to Ursula and accepting the deal. First, her going in the first place. When Flotsam and Jetsam bring Ursula up, Arielā€¦ /refuses/ to go. She is aware that Ursula is bad news. She had no intention of going to her at first and outright tells the eels to leave. What makes her agree? The two knocking the remains of the Eric statue in front of her. At this point, Arielā€™s pretty much been rejected by her father and all of her treasures that kept her seabound are gone, soā€¦ whatā€™s she got left to lose? She follows and naturally Sebastian tries to stop her, but she just angrily tells him to get her father since heā€™s good at that.
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Ariel enters Ursulaā€™s domain, and we come to theĀ scene. Ursula declares to have changed, demonstrates her power, and offers Ariel the deal to become human for three days and itā€™ll be permanent if Eric kisses her. If Ariel fails, she not only becomes a mermaid again, but she belongs to Ursula. She also has to give up her voice as payment. Now we all know the big criticism against this, that being Ariel selling her voice and leaving behind her family and all that she ever knew and lovedā€¦ for some prince that she hasnā€™t even really met yet, let alone spoken to. Now do I see why people dislike this? Yes. Itā€™s a very rash, very stupid decision not just for those factors, but the fact that Ariel is essentially selling herself to the devil for this one thing. None of this is a good thingā€¦ but here is the big question, does the film do enough that this makes sense for Arielā€™s character? Is this something that I can see her doing?
Yes, yes I can.
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Letā€™s look at this piece by piece. First, Ariel is clearly uncomfortable the entire time that she is in Ursulaā€™s lair. Ursula continuously gets into her personal space, laying on the manipulation at every step. When she lays out the deal, Ariel is at first hesitant. She herself brings up that if she takes it, sheā€™ll likely never see her family again. Sheā€™s also hesitant when Ursula lays out the terms of payment, not just because she has no idea how sheā€™d woo Eric without it, but just the concept of losing her voice clearly unnerves her. Look at her face when she grabs at her own throat, she is NOT okay with this. Even when Ursula begins to create the brew and poof sup the contract, Ariel isnā€™t excited or just jumps to it without thinking. She is VERY CLEARLY hesitant and unnerved about everything.Ā 
Soā€¦ why does she do it then? Well remember, sheā€™s still emotional after her confrontation with her father. Her father has rejected her in her eyes and destroyed everything that she had worked for. At this point, her dreams and feelings for Eric are all that she has. She is hurt, emotional, and desperate and when we are hurt, emotional, and desperate we tend to make rash, even outright stupid decisions. Especially when weā€™re teenagers. Ursula waited to strike at this very moment for this exact reason; so that Ariel wouldnā€™t be thinking rationally.Ā  These are the exact kind of people that Ursula preys on, and as I said above, she knowsĀ how to manipulate them to act how she wants. She gives Ariel the offer of her dreams, assures her that she can woo Eric without talking, poofs Ericā€™s image up at one point, and makes it clear that sheā€™s giving her very little time to think it over.Ā 
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With absolutely nothing left to lose and it being clear that her father will never support her dreams, Ariel reluctantly signs the contract. She outright turns her head away when she signs. She KNOWS that sheā€™s making a big choice and she isnā€™t 100% okay with it. She didnā€™t just give up her life callously for a man like some like to make out. It was a rash choice, but she had reluctance and fears about it. But itā€™s the only chance sheā€™ll get to get her dream of being human and being happy, which is what ultimately drives her to make her choice. Given how she risked her life already against a shark, this is in-character for her and shows how far sheā€™ll go for her dreams. And as weā€™ll see, this is going to have consequences as we near the end of the film.
So the deal is made. Ariel loses her voice and is transformed into a human. Once she makes it to shore, she gets to see her new legs, and for the first time since the confrontation, is happy. She has legs. She is human. The one thing that she had wanted for so, soĀ long has finally come true. Naturally Sebastian wants to get Triton, but she stops him and gives him the saddest, most pleading look that I think Iā€™ve ever seen. This is Arielā€™s one and only chance to get what she dreamed of. Triton would not only stop her, but considering what happened before, who knows what else heā€™d do if he saw her as a human. It is 10% understandable why Ariel doesn't want him involved, especially once it would just lead her back to a life of misery. Sebastian realizes this and agrees to help her, which pretty much gets her to forgive him for what happened before.
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Thus, we get to the first true meeting between Ariel and Eric. Of course, Ariel canā€™t explain who she is because of her voice being gone, so Eric assumes that she canā€™t be the same girl he saw despite her looking like her. But he sees her in the makeshift dress that Scuttle got her into and assumes that sheā€™s shipwrecked, especially since she canā€™t walk well. So he takes her to the palace, and Ariel is able to get refreshed and get used to walking on legs. She is clearly delighted by everything. She is now part of the world that she longed for,, and she is loving every second of it. Sure she quickly finds out that forks arenā€™t combs, but hey sheā€™s learning exactly what she wanted to learn. She is in utter bliss throughout the two days that sheā€™s on the surface, doing thinks like learn to dance and ride a horse-drawn carriage. Itā€™s all she ever hopes it would be.
But of course, Ariel still needs to get Eric to kiss her, or all of her dreams will end. She almost makes it with Kiss the Girl, which despite not being able to talk she made it pretty clear that she was willing and ready for Eric to kiss her. Ursula ruins that, but Ariel HAS endeared herself to Eric and he even prepares to go to her after giving up on the mystery mermaid. But of course, Ursula disguises herself as Vanessa via Arielā€™s voice and hypnotizes Eric into marrying her. Itā€™s sad because when Scuttle informs her of the proposal, Ariel is elated. She runs down the stairs, excited and gleefulā€¦ then she sees Eric and Vanessa, and you can see her heart break in two. It especially hits hard as she watches the ship take off, broken-hearted. Sheā€™s lost the man she loves, in moments she will be a mermaid again, and she will belong to Ursula fair and square. She pursued her dream, and it all seemed for naught.
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But once Scuttle finds out about Ursula, Ariel quickly springs into action. With her friend's help, she reaches the ship just as Ursulaā€™s necklace gets broken. This is a nitpick but I donā€™t like how Ariel ultimately wasnā€™t very active in helping rescuer Eric. Tbf IDK what she could have done, but Iā€™d have liked to see her stand against Ursula before things go downhill. Otherwise it feels like this and the other events afterā€¦ kind if feel handed to her by convenience and luck. But regardless she gets her voice backā€¦ but she fails to kiss Eric before the sun sets. Thatā€™s right folks, the so-called selfish, stupid deal that Ariel made? She failed to uphold it. She reverts to a Mermaid and now belongs to Ursula, and Triton canā€™t break it as itā€™s legally binding. So even if you DO think that Ariel made a bad choice, the film shows that yes, it WAS bad and she is now paying the consequences. Sure Triton sacrifices himself to take her place, but that still means that Ursula not only gets power, but her father is now a husk.
Ariel is enraged at this. Despite everything, I donā€™t think thereā€™s any doubt that Ariel still loves her daddy. She was reluctant about never seeing him again before, and now seeing how her deal has lead to his fate upsets her. One big issue with Ariel is howā€¦ well, the film doesnā€™t make it clear that Ariel grew or learned anything. Sure there are consequences to her actions, but we donā€™t see her ponder over them. This is the closest we get to her showing regret as she tries to apologize to Triton and outright attacks Ursula for what she did to him. But she doesnā€™t express true regret for her actions. She doesnā€™t have a true reconciliation with her father so that the two can reach a resolution. I guess we can blame timing since weā€™re in the final ten or so minutes here, but it makes the end feelā€¦ convenient.
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Eric saves Ariel from getting blasted by Ursula, and she manages to save him from Flotst and Jetsam. How? Bu yanking Ursula back and causing her to kill her own minions. Sure itā€™s not the Big Bad, but again Ariel marks a First in Disney Princess History by indirectly killing a villain. This provokes Ursula to go kaiju and essentially torment Ariel, who is unable to do anything at this point as sheā€™s caught in a raging whirlpool. While one CAN say sheā€™s a Damsel-in-Distress here (hence why I suggested Ariel should have gotten to do more in the wedding crash), she HAS saved Eric twice now. Plus by allowing Eric to kill Ursula, he essentially proves his worth by saving both the ocean AND the surface, and it contributes to Tritonā€™s ultimate decision.
So yeah, Ursula dies, Triton corrects his wrongs by making Ariel human, and Ariel and Eric can live happily ever after. As I said, it /does/ kind of hurt Arielā€™s character as she doesnā€™t really learn a lesson and it feels like she got incredibly lucky at the end. But at the same time Ariel is still a good character, and she marks a LOT of progression for the Disney Princess line. Sure she is a little selfish (though she usually means no harm), but sheā€™s also someone who actively goes after her dreams. She doesnā€™t have to wait for it, nor does it center on love. Sure Eric is the catalyst, but thatā€™s it. A catalyst. Sheā€™s allowed to rescue her prince. Sheā€™s allowed to fight against the villain. Sure sheā€™s still emotional, falls in love, and needs her friends help. But she is also a very proactive, curious, and ambitious girl. Her dream was by far the most impossible of the Princesses thus far, but she still managed to achieve it.
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Ariel is divisive, and I get why. The film DOES have some narrative problems (minor, but still) and I get why Ariel may rub some the wrong way. Me personally? I love her. She was a refreshing breath of air in the Princess line. Sheā€™s different from the Classic Three. Sheā€™s a bit more bratty and far less classy, but she also feels the most like a teenager and she follows her dreams in a very different manner. Sheā€™s still a good-hearted person, but sheā€™s a flawed person. Thatā€™s what I love about her, sheā€™s imperfect. Could more have been done to develop her? Maybe. But her flaws arenā€™t so bad that sheā€™s a bad character or unlikeable. Her actions make sense and stay true to her character. I understand why she does what she does. I care for her because I see the sincerity in her. I relate to her longing for something that seems out of reach. And while it was nowhere near as conflicted, I know what itā€™s like to be in conflict with my father who loved me, but never truly understood who I was. But I loved him, he loved me, he ultimately would have let me lead the life I wanted, and in the end thatā€™s what matters. Itā€™s why Ariel and Triton at the wedding always makes me cry. Yeah, watching this two years after my dad passedā€¦ really hit hard.
The point is, I cared about Ariel. I related to Ariel. I did when I was a child, and I still do as an adult. Anyone who loves something or someone despite everyone around you not understanding or being against it I think can relate to Ariel and her position. Plus again, she set forward a new direction for the Disney Princesses. Itā€™s a precedent that stands strong to this day. Iā€™ve done my best to shed light onto Ariel, but it wonā€™t convince everyone. If you hate her, fine. I canā€™t change your mind and tour free to make all the arguments you want. But Iā€™m allowed to stand by my argument, and I am. Ariel is one of my favorites. She inspires kids to follow their curiosity and their ambitions. It teachers parents to accept their children and who/what they love, and to let them go forward in their lives. One can even argue that her film teaches kids to be careful when emotional to avoid the mistakes that she made, but still achieve a happy ending as well. Either way, I think that the hate against this little mermaid is far too harsh and it ALWAYS centers on the deal without taking anything else into account. Itā€™s time we change that.
Final Thoughts
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I love this film. The animation is lovely, the music fantastic, and despite a few issues here and there the story is sound. I donā€™t remember when I first saw it (it came out four years before I was born so not then), but Iā€™ve loved it since that first time. Iā€™m pretty sure I love the ocean and mermaids in general because of this film. Sure it diverts a good deal from the original Hans Christian Anderson story, but honestly? As someone who found that story unnecessarily cruel? I will take this version any day (no offense to those who like the original story, this is just me talking). It is a masterpiece that changed the game for Disney, for animation, and for the Disney Princesses. Ariel was very much a huge inspiration for many of her successors, and I am grateful for all that this little mermaid did.
Upon its release, Disney was FINALLY able to step into the light after spending over 20 years stuck in the dark. The film was a monumental success. The biggest success that Feature Animation had had since Waltā€™s days. They also finally beat Don Bluth, winning in the box office over All Dogs Go to Heaven, and returned to the top of the animation world. The Disney Renaissance had officially begun, and it wasnā€™t even close to slowing down. Just two years later, another Disney Princess film would be released. One that would achieve greatness, but also face great tragedy. So come and be our guest as when we return, we discuss a tale as old as time with 1991ā€™s Beauty and the Beast.
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Image Sources: Disney Wiki, Animation Screencaps Other Sources: The Making of The Little Mermaid: Treasures Untold
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nightcoremoon Ā· 4 years ago
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so for the first time I saw batman: the killing joke.
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it was okay I guess. but massively overrated. I expected some fucking masterpiece of cinema but instead it was just two unrelated short films that were more style and flash than substance.
so first off, barbara's storyline was mediocre. franz wasn't a compelling villain; just a creep, and a trust fund brat. oh wow he's a mafia kid who stole his family's fortune by hacking. if it was the falcone family I'd have cared more but it wasn't so it's just some faceless deathfodder rando. who gives a shit. the whole situation was just a vehicle to shove batman's dick into babs. which kinda fucks over bruce's character here and judging by the timeline kinda makes him a bit of a groomer, yikes. bruce and gordon have known each other since bruce was a young boy and we know that bruce is way older than babs so yeah bruce totally knew her from birth until present day, he literally utilized an active power dynamic to police her crimefighting activities, and he should have fucking known better and stopped her when she kissed him because it would (and did) compromise their professional dynamic, but hey, batdick. and at least barbara recognized that she was behaving emotionally rather than logically when it came to bruce and paris and took the high road out. that would be a serviceable standalone episode to write her on a bus in a serialization but THIS IS A MOVIE. so for a waste of an already short runtime it's like having an appetizer before your meal but instead of something like a crab cake before stuffed flounder, you get greasy onion petals that are more fried batter than onion before getting a well done cheeseburger that's just a glorified hockey puck on a sponge with a kraft single on top. the animation and vocal delivery were excellent of course, not gonna disparage that aspect, so it was well made, but the writing was just not very good. a polished turd. quantic dream must have developed it then because it feels like I watched a david cage production.
so in a 78 minute movie, five of which were the credits, we had a half hour Disney/Pixar short except those bring joy and this brought boring. also there were a lot of shots of her ass tits and underwear that were obnoxiously male-gazey and there was a token gay for the sole purpose of dangling a carrot on a stick for the queers. look kids, warner brothers and dc comics cares about the lgbts! give us money! a waste of time before the real reason why anyone came to see the movie that literally only exists to pad out the runtime to make it a feature length (even though paying a full ticket would've been a total ripoff because, again, IT WAS ONLY 78. even 9 was 81 minutes long and that had an amazing storyline so I forgave it, but 78 minutes? ugh.
also, GOTHAM RAGE??? CRINGE. SO CRINGE.
alright now for the joker segment.
*ahem*
what the fuck? that sucked! *throws tomato*
mark hamill and the joker's lines and the art and the cinematography and the choreography was all good and the plot was cohesive. I get it.
but holy shit was the writing weak as fuck.
okay so some rando breaks the J-ster out of Arkham (already unlikely but ugh whatever), he didn't turn a trick or recruit or anything, he just went to purchase a carnival. or, steal one. but wait, he DID recruit, but he went to get all of the stereotypical Circus Freakā„¢ stereotypes. little people, fat lady, bearded lady, wolf man, strongman, diaper man (wait, what?), and the two headed woman. I guess if you don't really think about why all of them were super readily available in the outskirts between arkham and gotham [i just realized they both end with -am] then it makes enough sense. and then literally right after that HE RECRUITS SOME GUYS TO HELP HIM KIDNAP GORDON. and then strips and photographs barbara. um. ew. you can tell the writer and director were men. Alan Moore is constantly molesting women in his comics and this one trick pony should be put down already. but whatever. the plot is weak and it only gets saved by the flashback sequences.
oh.
oh no.
they're not that great.
he's a failed unfunny comedian who just wants some money to move his wife to a better house so he turns to thievery with the mob. OR YOU COULD JUST STOP GOING TO THE BAR AND BLOWING IT ALL ON BOOZE. I mean the cops knew where to find him after all so clearly he's a repeat customer (or moore is a bad plot writer who relies on convenience and shut the fuck up and don't critically analyze it). alright so he gets wrapped up in the mob to perform a heist on a playing card factory. GET IT, BECAUSE HE'S THE JOKER??? and he uses the moniker of the red hood to retain his anonymity. I expected the mobsters to be working for francisco but no the paris storyline was only cooked up screenplay for passing the runtime so why would they do something clever and interesting and make the film cohesive? that'd be really stupid to make the movie feel more like one movie and not two short films. at least when grindhouse & planet terror did it they advertised themselves as an anthology film. whatever. he falls in the vat of acid which melts the red hood to his face and I gotta say that's actually a pretty good idea to get his face white and his hair green and his lips red. I like that part. oh wait I forgot about the most important part! his wife gets shoved in the refrigerator. OH WOW THAT'S JUST SO COMPELLING AND ORIGINAL, TOTALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT ALREADY HAPPENED TO GREEN LANTERN. TWICE. although she wasn't literally shoved into a literal refrigerator like alex was. rip in frozen pieces you absolute legend of a trope namer. alright, so... so the joker is sad because his wife died. you know, the wife we saw for two minutes and knew the moment we saw her drenched in sepia she was gonna die. and she died offscreen. kyle's gf died and he was fine. gordon's wife died and he was fine. batman's parents both died and he was fine. oh boo hoo someone I love died! fuck off. I am so goddamn sick of people trying to justify their evil with "I was sad once". it's a stupid trope and it's not compelling. the only valid version is doctor doofenshmirtz' evil(er) version in the PF movie because it's hilarious that it's because of a toy train because that's the emotional depth that fridgewomen is treated with in all of these storylines. but at least batman said so. oh yeah, I almost totally forgot, batman's in this movie.
batman punches people and nonlethally takes them out. by suffocating them and letting them get stabbed and throwing them into pits of spikes and HEY WAIT A GODDAMN SECOND! okay let's just ignore that bit and hope that the little people squeezed between the gaps in the spikes and the strongman could breathe in the face mask and the two headed women had KO gas and the fat lady was fat enough that the knives only stabbed her cellulite. it wouldn't be the biggest reach one would have to make in watching this fucking disaster of a plot mess.
now I did like that it was actually batman, and by that I mean he gave a shit about the insane because he recognizes that mental illness is not a cause of dangerous or criminal behavior, just a potential exacerbating factor if it wasn't treated. yeah he brutalized mobsters and crime lords but they were mostly in self defense while gathering intel. he politely asked sal maroni and the sex workers for information and they gave it to him without violence- he manhandled maroni but only after he reached into his pocket for a cigar which could've been a gun. also batman says sex work should be decriminalized if only by not ratting them out to the cops. he was a genuinely good person in the second half of the movie. too bad it was ruined by the shitty first half that made him a borderline groomer.
joker's song was... bad. mark hamill performed his ass off but the song wasn't that good. it just tried to be willy wonka if he was a voyeuristic monster. oh yeah have the only girl character be paralyzed stripped and photographed only to give her father ManPainā„¢. again... the fuck? joker and batman were both gross but, again. male writers. if it was a one-off I could drop a thermian argument because, alright one and done makes sense, especially 1988 standards. but it saturated and soured the entire goddamn movie because of abhorrent pacing decisions. so you're goddamn right I'm gonna bring it up twice! joker was a creep, his plan was dumb, nolan and burton and lord/miller and even ayer had better motivations. YES I AM SAYING THAT JARED LETO'S JOKER HAD BETTER WRITING THAN MARK HAMILL'S JOKER. not nearly to the level of ledger nicholson or galifanakis but hamill didn't have a lot to work with here and I maintain that his performance was amazing; honestly I like his the best out of all of them but just... not here. but I think I can cut some slack to firelord ozai and luke skywalker even if he just phoned it in here which he didn't. writing was just weak. and that's all there is to it. don't anon me and threaten to remove my bones ok?
alright so batman and joker fought and joker got the upper hand and was gonna kill him but it was a prop gun. haha. they had a heart to heart and batman tells joker that he wants to help him get better, even after joker killed robin and molested barbara and traumatized gordon and did countless other travesties, he still said he would help. but joker said no, and told a joke that was good enough to make batman laugh. and then the credits rolled.
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what a completely pointless and empty ending. oh it's deep and meaningful and poignant? ok sure, I guess, movie, but you didn't earn that. shyamalan did the same thing a dozen times. that doesn't make him any less of a shit writer.
I can understand the concept of batman laughing at joker's joke, humanizing him.
I get it. I see what they tried to do. I respect it.
but this movie was massively overhyped and overrated and I expected it to be so much better than it was. but overall to me it was just another batman cartoon to throw on top of the pile. maybe it was influential to graphic novels. maybe it shaped batman into what he is today. it published right as tim burton's movie and I can respect its place in the pantheon of comic history. but sometimes things that are classic...
aren't that great.
citizen kane, casablanca, the maltese falcon, the treasure of the sierra madre, gone with the wind, singing in the rain, all of them are classic and legendary pieces of art. but they're just not that good, interesting, appealing, watchable, or FUN. they were good at the time- I mean come on we all know them today- but on going back you'd have to really appreciate the finer details to still love the movies today. and this belongs there, in the vault, to be appreciated from afar. influential if dated.
but god am I still disappointed nonetheless.
TL;DR
it was just okay. had some good ideas, had some really bad ideas, had some ugly stuff. overall mediocre. first half 5/10, second half 7/10, overall 6/10.
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popculturebuffet Ā· 4 years ago
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Mission Hill Review: Plan 9 From Mission Hill or I Married a Gay Man From Outer Space!
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Commission for @weirdkev27ā€‹. Hallowen Havoc marches on! For my first commission ever, I take a look at the cult classic mission hillā€™s final produced episode and one of itā€™s most loved. Kevinā€™s visit to an x rated movie pays off less with boobs and more with a friendship with his elderly gay neighbor and film buff wally and a new appreciation for cinema, only for this new friendship to nearly end over Kevinā€™s good natured attempt to spotlight Wallyā€™s only film, the man from pluto. Gay spaceman, a touching gay love story, and a surprisingly likeable guy with a neckbeard insue. Spoilers and full recap FROM PLUTO, under the cut.Ā 
Well this was a nice suprise. After the utterly draining process of my review ofĀ ā€œLetā€™s Get Dangerousā€, it was a nice suprise to find out one of my handful of fans had tried to comission me a while back and I hadnā€™t realized it, and I was happy to oblige him. I was even happier when I found out what his commission was: Plan 9 From Mission HIll, an episode iā€™d planned to cover for pride but got squeezed out due to how little iā€™d planned the month out in advance, a lesson I still REALLY need to learn. Regardless not only was it a nice, funny, and heartwarming ep to cover after the sheer amount of analysis and recapping the last one took, I realized it ended up fitting the spooky season, as thereā€™s just as much fun to be had in truly fantastic horror movies likeĀ ā€œNightmare on Elm Streetā€,Ā ā€œGet Outā€,Ā ā€œChildā€™s Playā€,Ā ā€œTales from the Hoodā€ andĀ ā€œThe Thingā€ as there is from so bad itā€™s great horror films likeĀ ā€œHouse (The Japanese one), C.H.U.D. II: Bud The Chud, Terror Toons and House Shark. Seriously watch House Shark iā€™ts hilarious. Hell I fully plan on watching the Gary Busey film Hider in the House tomorrow. I mean itā€™s a film about hollywoodā€™s favorite nutballĀ  living in the walls and attic of someoneā€™s house. Whatā€™s not to love? Maybe it might be entirely boring but thatā€™s the risk you sometimes take to find so bad itā€™s gold filmaking. Plus cheeestastic films like these are the reason we have the classsic and incomprable mystery science theater 3000 and itā€™s succesor rifftrax. So while I need to watch more of them, I have a spot in my likely overtaxed heart for this kind of film, and as a result this episode resonated with me on rewatch in a way it didnā€™t the first time around, even if it was still my faviorite.Ā 
Backing up a bit as usual I like to give my history with a show first time covering it: Mission HIll was one of a handful of shows picked up by Adult Swim in itā€™s early days. Since most of Adult Swimā€™s early originals were 11 minutes at a time when this was still a new and radical thing they were doing having 11 minute shows that werenā€™t sold as half hour pairs of 11 minute episodes, they likely needed more shows to fill up the air and clevelry simply bought the rights to several shows that had only had one season, along with Family Guy and Futurama which as history would bear out both made the shows into huge names in the animation industry but brought both back.. though in Family Guyā€™s case sometimes dead is better. Point is, several shows got a second life thanks to Cartoon Network if sadly not more seasons, with the sole exception of the utter classic Home Movies which I really need to talk about at some point, and thus are really more associated with Adult Swim than their original networks. Hell before doing this review I genuinely didnā€™t know what Mission HIllā€™s original networks. But now you know the framework this show came out in what IS Mission Hill anyway?Ā 
MIssion Hill was a cartoon from the wonderful brains of Bill Oakely and Josh Weinstein, no relation to the MST3K one who due to this confusion now goes by J. Elvis Weinstein instead, who showran the simpsons and did some great episodes, my faviorte of thereā€™s being $pringfield, aka the casino one.Ā 
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The show was about Andy, a 24 year old slacker whose happily lazing about after college in his loft with his friends Jim, a stoic but friendly stoner played by Brian Posehn, and Posey, a sensitive hippie. However when he goes to pickup his childhood dog he ends up with an unexpected roomate: His nerdy, sheltered and neurotic brother Kevin, who has a love of sci fi, a type a personality and a habit of going bling blong to focus when studying or just whenever. Heā€™s also voiced by future robin and future psychopath claming to be robin Scott Mellinville. Also in the building are Carlos and Natalie, an unemployed artist and college professor and their baby Nameless.Ā  I forgot they existed.Ā  And of course saving the best for last we have the brotherā€™s neighbors, and a very early gay couple for animated television Wally and Gus, played by the legendary Tom Kenny and Nick Jameson who hasnā€™t done much of note but does a great job anyway. Wally is a fastudious, Gus is angry and very brooklyn, but the two genuinely love each other, makeout frequently, with their first showing off the two as a gay couple, and are an adorable but very beliviable couple. Itā€™s part of WHY I wanted to spotlight them. The late 90ā€²s/early 2000ā€²s, the show originally aired in 99 and into 2000 and aired on adult swim in the early 2000 for the curious, were not a great time to be gay in animation with most gay characters used as punchlines and hardly any queer stories. Not only that but just a year earlier will and grace had to have one overly camp chracter and oneĀ ā€œregularā€ gay character in order to get made. Granted that show has itā€™s issues but still, the point stands having a gay couple that plays fairly realistically, is shown to both be sexually active and love each other and whoā€™ve been together for decades was a hell of a step for a medium where Family Guy around the same time had a joke with the punchlineĀ ā€œWhoa transvestite back off!ā€ Granted Family Guy would do far worse to both the gay and trans communities, but weā€™ll get to that someday. Or sooner if you commission me, but I swear if you do I will pull a gary busey on your house. Point is not only is it INCREIDBLY forward for itā€™s time but it holds up even now. Thereā€™s a reason the creators are working on a spinoff/revivial focused on the two and a reason these two tend to be one of the most talked about elements of the show. That and frankly their hilarious having realistic banter.. and also having one episode where Gus has a knife in his head for a whole episode. It helps that this episode, their spotlight one and the last one produced, is also one fo the series best. So with all that build up letā€™s take a look shall we?Ā 
We open with Kevin passing a theater showing x rated movies and are shown, over a bunch of times of him passing it him condeming it publicly but his tone clearly telegraphing the classic battle between a teenage boy and his dick. Dick wins and Kevin heads inside and gives us... this.Ā 
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.... If you will excuse me, please enjoy the musical stylings of the late great Zorak while I go shower theĀ ā€œEeEEEEEEUUUUGGggggggHHHhhuuuuuuggghhhhhhhhewwwwuuuuugggghhhhggooooodddddddwwwyyyyyyā€ off me.Ā 
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God rest his soul. Okay iā€™m good now. Thankfully this isnā€™t an episode about Kevin getting addicted to x-rated theater, and they already did an episode about him masturbating. No really it actually had a good message as Kevin was so embarassed about the incident, he nearly let two other guys, granted not remotley good people who were stealing from there anyway, take the fall. Andy even ends up giving a great speech coming to his defense
ā€œPeople, you mock this boy, but it's your fault he's here today. Your hypocrisy has made this boy a prisoner, terrified of his own sexuality. So much so that he'd rather send two relatively-innocent men to prison than admit he looks at pornography! He thinks his natural urges are filthy and perverted, and why? Because of your conspiracy of silence! Nobody dares admit the truth - that you're all just like him!ā€
ITā€™s a damn good moment and a good message. That sadly is still relevant as America still views sex as worse than violence for some weird reason. At least he has the internet now. Anywho when Kevin goes to see whatā€™s up he runs into Wally who explains the confusion: Heā€™s just showing oldĀ ā€œX-Rated filmsā€. Now some of you are probably wonderingĀ ā€œWait non-porn films used to use that?ā€ OrĀ ā€œWait whatā€™s an x-rating?ā€ Well while I knew some films did used to do that I was honestly curious myself as to why it was retired and why porn films got to use it and took a quick hop to google to find out reading both the wikipedia article for the rating and this vulture article on the subject to get a slightly deeper look at it.Ā 
Itā€™s actually quite intresting as I genuinelly also didnā€™t know when the MPAA ratings started for films: When the ratingā€™s board started in 1968 there were four raitings: G, GP (Later flipped to PG), R and X. X was the modern equivlent of todayā€™s R really, and films like Last Tango in Paris, Midnight Cowboy and a Clockwork Orange, with Orange even having a poster up at the cinema in this episode and Midnight Cowboy being part of the plot very soon. Weā€™ll get to that in the moment. Point is it allowed filmakers to push the envelope break barriers all that good stuff and makes me curious about those very films, which is a good thing as iā€™ll admit to not being exactly a film buff.Ā  But as Kevinā€™s confusion here shows, eventually the porn industry took a hold of it, using the X as a way to get sex movies into regular cinemas and have an air of legitimacy, hence why Debbie Does Dallas was a mainstream hit.. and yes thatā€™s an actual film that I only know about thanks to I Love the 70ā€²s. If your wondering why the MPAA just couldnā€™t you know, tell them to know or why they didnā€™t take over other ratings it turns out for some weird reason why the G and R ratings were owned by them, and later PG , they forgot to trademark X and by the time they even thought of it it was too late. Hence terms like XXX rated and what not or the ungodly stupid XXX porn parodies. Just.. just give them actual names and slapĀ ā€œA porn parodyā€ ont he end if you want to avoid a lawsuit.Ā  Naturally the film industry struck back and X soon went from a way to have daring, interesting films.. to basically a threat by the MPAA that your film wouldnā€™t be carried by any major distributors if it had one, with Dawn of the Dead having to just go unrated just to get distributed. The 80ā€²s brought the killing stroke: With the rise of big theater chains, mall theaters with restrictions I wasnā€™t aware of, and big home video outlets like blockbuster that didnā€™t carry porn, the x rating was well and truly dead and the MPAA lukewarmly added NC-17 which serves the same bullshit purpose as theaters still refuse to carry them and the MPAA still uses it for essenitally the same reason. Nothing changed! If your wondering why people sometimes have problems with the MPAA, yeah thereā€™s your answer, as they couldā€™ve campaigned harder for NC-17 but clearly enjoyed having a raiting to hold over films heads.Ā 
So yeah if you donā€™t know, know you know bud, letā€™s move on. So yeah Wally explains the confusion and decides to educate Kevin on film by showing him Midnight Cowboy, with John VoightĀ ā€œBefore his head looked like a radishā€ and Dustin Hoffman. Also Andy brings up Sphere.. a film I also know nothing about. Hang on... checking Letterboxd and okay. Itā€™s a Dustin Hoffman starring Sci-Fi film about a research team investigating a mysterious sphere at the bottom of the sea. Huh.. I prefer Cube myself but to each his own.Ā  But once Kevin clams up he really enjoys it. Will grant the episode lays it on a tad thick, with Kevin comparing the film to , of all things, Armageddon. I mean I get MIcheal Bay is a good metric for crowd pleasing schlock but still, even nerds have standards. My standards arenā€™t very high at times mind as I still want to watch this sometime today.Ā 
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But I still think even awkward teens have better standards. Then again one of my faviorite films at the time was Saving Silverman which while I canā€™t hate it due to nostalgia , having watched it from 5th grade well into my teens, I can see was not very good. Though it did have R. Lee Ermy being both really funny and turning out to be gay so that was awesome.Ā 
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And he does make a good point that heroes like Ratzzo Rizzo donā€™t go well on Taco Bell cups.. though it also feels weird to me in 2020 where while not big sellers films with deep stories and unlikeable heroes are some of the biggest on tv and one of them was one of the greatest animated series of the last decade, so things mustā€™ve been pretty damn bleak in 1999. The two also run into Gus who wants dinner and a fight ensues between the couple about the fact Gus owns a restraunt, could just bring his lunch etc. Itā€™s hilarious and as I said I like how they feel like a couple youā€™d meet in real life. Sadly I donā€™t have an elderly gay couple in my neighborhood but hereā€™s hoping. Or maybe iā€™ll be the neighborhoods wally when I grow up who knows. Also Tom Kennyā€™s delivery is great.Ā 
Kevin later relays his fun day to his loftmates, with Andy expressing genuine suprise at Wallyā€™s job and love of art house cinema, as none of them knew what he actually did. Andyā€™s genuinely shocked and mildly appalled theyā€™ve lived near Wally for so long but having no idea what he does.. but really I had a sweet old lady, Delores who lived next to me for almost my entire life before she moved to be closer to her family, visited her house frequently pet her cats, went to her house after school at one point.. and I cannot tell you what he did, so itā€™s incredibly relatable. However in a scene thatā€™s both hilarious but also really, really sweet, the three relate that they do know him well and due to being neighbors after all and know Gus and Wallyā€™s morning routine: They wake up at 8, Wally brews the Coffee, Gus reads him the funnies, then they shower together while singing college fight songs, and then, with Jim saying this part so picture it in Brian Posehnā€™s voice please you wonā€™t regret it, argue or have gay sex and then itā€™s off to work. Itā€™s really sweet, both in showing off their well worn dynamic with each other, and the fact that the loftmates really DO know these two even if they dontā€™ know everything and they are close in their own way. Kevin can only give out aĀ ā€œHmā€ in response... which is probably the closest he can get to saying touche without breaking into nerdy giggles.Ā 
Cue the good times montage as Wally introduces Kevin to Ingmar Bergman, who I have heard of even if iā€™ve never seen any of them, and some director I never heard of who made old timey comedies apparently. ITā€™s a really nice sequence. Kevin also shows 2001: A Space Oddesy to his friends, who are bored to tears by it while Kevinā€™s enraptured. Which I would say was another heavy-handed swipe at late 90ā€²s cinema but being a teen myself who had mostly watched things like Star Wars, I did not gel with 2001 and need to rematch it at some point, so I totally relate to his friends utter boredom and confusion with it given itā€™s rep. Itā€™s a visually stunning film. I will however stand by not liking Star Trek: The Motion Picture, as that film TRIES to be 2001 but is instead just really, REALLY boring.Ā 
But naturally things can be entirely good natured bonding between an elderly gay man and , as Wally puts it in the best line of the episodeĀ ā€œThe son god never wanted me to haveā€, as Kevin notices a film coming up that Wally apparently made, and looks to star gus. Wally panics and shoos his young protĆ©gĆ© away... which yeah he couldā€™ve just you know told him he doesnā€™t like the film or anything else and prevented this episode but then we wouldnā€™t of seen the gay equilvent of plan 9 from outer space so fair enough.Ā 
At the Gusā€™ Diner, the loftmates and their neighbors I mentioned earlier look over the poster, and we find out from Gus that that is him, and he starred in a movie.. and naturally Wally explained never showing it to his husband in the simplest way possible: By claming a shark ate it. You know while I watched the show I didnā€™t quite get it when I was younger and itā€™s probably why it took me decades to revisit it.. but I wish I had sooner this show is REALLY damn funny and iā€™m really looking forward to that spinoff with Wally and Gus.Ā 
Wally continues to dodge Kevin, so Kevin, trying to find info about the film and it being lost, goes to the video store.. back when those existed. Something I have to give the show is honestly the use of vhs, visits to video stores, and the movies Kevin mentions are the only things that really date this film. While swapping another Dustin Hoffman film in proved impossible, it is plausible Kevin would see it streaming somewhere. and itā€™s easy enough to swap Armageddon for Rise of Skywalker given that filmā€™s just as good.. Last Jedi was excellent though. Point is this story REALLY holds up, which is the sign of a good story: where even if some elements are stamped to the time, the story itself could easily be told again with few changes. Itā€™s also why iā€™m not AGAINST Reboots, as my coverage of ducktales makes obvious: As long as stories can still be told or you can retell a story in a unique and intresting way, itā€™s fine to reuse something. I do think hollywood overdoes it, but Iā€™ve never thought there was genuine harm in it or reviving old franchises. Itā€™s all in how you do it.Ā  But yeah while the local video store dosenā€™t help at all, Andy happens to know just the man for the job, though Jim and Posey nope out of going with them. Also something to note is the series animation: Itā€™s animated like an old 30ā€²s cartoon or a comic strip, modernized a bit in color and realisim, but still having comic strip stuff like shaking head lines, heat lines coming off coffee that sort of thing.Ā  I really love it.Ā 
Anyways the brothers head off to a funky out of the way video store, I wish there were more hole in the wall used media stores where I lived. We mostly have chains like Vintage Stock and Half-Priced Books, though I genuinely love both of those stores and VIntage Stock is the modern equilvent of places like blockbuster honestly. Anyway after Beardo confuses Kevin for an Employee kevin asks him about the man from pluto which Beardo reveals he knows about but is very rare and has few prints. I like Beardo.. heā€™s a neckbeard who seems more liable to complain abotu some reboot on the fact their rebooting it again rather thanĀ ā€œgaspā€ women are involved. I prefer my neckbeards just a tad pretentious rather than you know, sexist, homophobic, deranged assholes with nothing better to do. I mean iā€™m still living at home and didnā€™t get out much before the pandemic either but you dontā€™ see me bitching every time a franchise gets a female lead.Ā 
Anyway, Kevin is inspired by that and with help from everyone gets the word out about the film. As youā€™d expect though this canā€™t end well, as Wally tries avoiding the premire entirely (And we get a great bit where Jim happens to see him trying to flee down the fire escape and Wallyā€™s expression is priceless)Ā 
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Huh.. I bet thatā€™s what Rob Reiner when North had itā€™s premire. As you can probably guess the showing dosenā€™t go well: The film itself is a hilarious combination of the day the earth stood still (the general plot as weā€™ll find out more in a second) and Plan 9 From Outer Space (A cheestatic no budget film with a hulking man brute who canā€™t act as the lead), and in catching the feel of a b-movie itā€™s utterly perfectly done. This film would go perfect on MST3K and the audienceā€™s howls of laughter agrees with me.Ā 
Wally however is utterly humiliated and doesnā€™t want to speak to Kevin which.. yeah is about the only issue I have with an otherwise marvelous episode. While I get Wallyā€™s humiliation was Kevinā€™s fault.. Kevin GENUINELY meant well. While Kevin is book smart at his core heā€™s a dumb kid who didnā€™t know any better and didnā€™t realize Wally hated his film and itā€™s Wallyā€™s own damn fault for not telling him.Ā  Sure Kevin shouldā€™ve picked up the hint, but given the kid is oblivious and didnā€™t even know what an x raiting is itā€™s clear heā€™s not the sharpest crayon in the box when it comes to life experince. Wally had every opportunity to just explain his story but didnā€™t. And I put most of the blame on Wally when heā€™s you know, the adult. Heā€™s a 60 or so year old man. He should know better. But it really doesnā€™t take away from the episode entirely.Ā  But the loftmates clearly love the film and are quoting bits from it, with jim having a fishbowl on his head, when they run into Wally, though Wally is fine with them admitting itā€™s crap and he knows it is. We then get what REALLY makes the episode and really makes me primed for a spinoff: Wally and Gusā€™ backstory, which also makes it obvious the crew was probably going to use the two more had the series got another season.Ā 
Anyways it was the 50ā€²s, Archie Andrews was an average teen and not shredded both in muscle and by a bear that one time, Fonzie was out and about and eyying, and Wally was a first unit director given a shot as the studio asked him for a script having utter faith in him. HIs script was a day the earth stood still esque parable on the Cold War.. until he met Gus who, naturally for Gus, was outrunning a ton of police having stumbled on set and likely defeated them all bare handed because Gus is as incredible as the hulk and likely also comes back through a glowing green door when he dies.Ā  So Wally made the tragic mistake of mixing his love life with his career, and lost both Kurt Douglas, who he bumped down from lead for Gus, and Charleton Hesston who just walked off and they got a dinkier stage and worse actors as a result. The resulting film ended Wallyā€™s career but he was able to sell the rights to cinemas to make enough for them to start over in mission hill and buy the diner.. and at least they had each other. Itā€™s a really great story that explains why it upsets Wally so much: This was his baby and while he dosenā€™t even for one second regret meeting gus or the life theyā€™ve had, he regrets that his one film was a total trainwreck and goes off to the theater to mope as he plays his film for laughing crowds, as it was naturally held over. I mean when you get the next plan 9 from outer space, this was a bit before the room mind you, you hold onto that shit.Ā 
Kevin, who heard the whole thing, goes to mope by watching what is likely a MIcheal Bay film, who was a target even then folks. Oh you poor poor fools you knew not how much worse it could get... i.e. robot testicles. Just.. robot testicles. And their MAKING A DELUXE MOVIE DEVISTATOR. Why. Just.. why who wanted this after that scene. Heā€™s sworn off good movies as he feels he no longer deserves them. Andy however bluntly tells him to cut the pity party, while heā€™s moping his friend really needs him and when you love somebody, you put your pants on for them. When you love somebody you see it to the end, when you love somebody the conclusions forgone when you love somebody you put your big boy pants right onnnnn! ... Iā€™ll put the song at the end. Point is Kevin goes to help his friend, and as Wally is moping in the projection booth and wonders what he was thinking Kevin tells him the obvious truth: He was thinking of how far heā€™d go.Ā  ā€œYou taught me the best films are personal stories.. and this film is your valentine to Gusā€ While Wally starts to break a little, he does point out it doesnā€™t make it good.. but Kevin rightly counters that heā€™s not so sure of it. Wally sees the audience enjoying the film and goes down, with all of them carrying red light bulbs like the one gus has to show when heā€™s mad in the film. And Wally finally realizes waht I got to in the beginning: It doesnā€™t matter if a filmā€™s good or bad, what matters is someone enjoys it. A film can be utterly terrible, and still be good. It can be a mess and still have merit. And Wally finally realizes it doesnā€™t matter if itā€™s the film he wanted, itā€™s the film he made for his future husband, itā€™s a film that brings laughter and sticks in peopleā€™s heads and reallyĀ  brings them a godo time. Itā€™s a film worth remembering and Wally finally accepts that and his film as his own.Ā  Later that night Kevin and Wally exit the theater, with Wally no longer mad at him and the two still friends or as Wally puts it in the second best line of the episodeĀ ā€œAs close as an elderly gay man and a straight boy can beā€ Awwww. The two depart and we get a touching final scene as Wally comes home and finds a bottle of wine and a note from gus saying he has a suprise for him> Turns out Gus put on his old space helmet.. but fell asleep in it. So we get a really nice tender moment as Gus takes theĀ  helmet off, smooches his husband on his bald head and smiles brightly as the episode ends.
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Final Thoughts on The Man From Pluto or I Married a Gay Man From Outer Space: Before you ask each episode had two titles for funzies, the first one to get past the censors and the second for fun and likely what they wouldā€™ve gone with if they could. As for this episode.. itā€™s spectacular. It holds up well even 20 years later, itā€™s touching, sweet and really damn funny and makes me want to rewatch the show as a whole again. I highly recommend seeking it out and hope mission hill is eventually made officially available somewhere. Till then you can find the whole series including this episode on YouTube and despite being the last one you could easily watch this one first if you want and itā€™s a decent enough intro to the show as a whole. I highly recommend it, an utter pleasure to watch.Ā  If you liked this review, you can comission your own by PMing me on this very blog, just mention you want to do a comission and we can talk it out. As this review proves, it dosenā€™t have to be a show iā€™ve done before or even one thatā€™s remotely recent. Hell iā€™d gladly do Fonz and The Happy Days gang, the animated happy days spinoff thatā€™s like dr. who but with the Fonz. Yes really. Whatever you want iā€™ll do it as long as itā€™s not porn for just 5 bucks an episode and 10 for a movie. YOu can also join my patreon, and for 2 dollars a month get acess to my discord (that iā€™ll start once I get patreons) and once I get enough patreons exclusive polls or 10 bucks for all of that and a review of your choice each month. You can find said patreon right here. And even 1 buck a month would be apricated if you can spare it and if not simply reblog this and share it around.Ā Ā You can also follow this blog for weekly ducktales, loud house and amphibia coverage as they come out.Ā  Iā€™d also personally thank WeirdKev27 for both being a long time fan of this blog and for the comission.Ā 
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Robin and Gale Hood; Ben Hardy x reader Chap. 7
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Another short and sweet chapter for you all and just one more to go so I hope you all will also watch the video I provide cause itā€™s also the song from the Disney film and if you know the words or want to follow along with the lyrics, sing along! Enjoy my loveies!
Chapter 7,
Phony King of England
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Popping out from the bushes was Friar Tuck. Ā Soon enough coming out from the bushes and trees surrounding the camp were the rest of the people of Nottingham.
ā€œLong live Robin and Gale Hood!ļæ½ļæ½ļæ½ cheered Friar Tuck. Ā Soon coming from either side of the Friar were two of his helpers of the church, Father Jim and Sister Anita.
ā€œAnd long live Prince James and Maid Marian!ā€ proclaimed father Jim.
ā€œBravo! Bravo!ā€ soon all the people of Nottingham began to cheer. Ā The four young heroes smiled as they looked at the people of Nottingham.
ā€œAnd damned to hell with that scoundrel Prince John!ā€ a familiar Welsh to the two young rouges called out. Ā They soon saw standing between Kit and David was a now healed Gilbert.
ā€œGilbert!ā€ the siblings proclaimed happily before racing over to him and embraced him tightly.
ā€œTakes more than a knife to kill me. But you both are squeezing the bandages area.ā€
ā€œSorry, sorry.ā€ The siblings apologized as they released him.
ā€œWeā€™re just so glad to see youā€™re alright. You had us worried.ā€ Gale said.
ā€œHey I couldnā€™t leave you lot behind. Especially you Gale. Who else is gonna keep your brother in check.ā€ He cheekily winked at her. She softly giggled.
ā€œI think Iā€™d be more worried about you Gilbert. Youā€™re even cockier than Robin is at times.ā€
ā€œHey!ā€ Robin exclaimed.
ā€œSheā€™s got you there Rob.ā€ Little John nodded.
ā€œAgreed.ā€ Said Kit shrugging.
ā€œFraid thatā€™s true Robin. I did warn you that the tournament was a trap but did you listen to me? No.ā€ David said.
ā€œOkay, Okay I get it! I deserve the insults.ā€
ā€œAlright now my darlings enough of teasing the fox brother. Iā€™d say in light of this glorious occasion a celebration is in order.ā€ I said to them.
The people all applauded and thatā€™s when the beautiful Gale told me.
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ā€œTake it away then Alan!ā€ I turned to the rest of the band and gave them a nod as I began to play my lute and they joined up behind me in a merry tune. Ā People then began to dance about as I sang a song about our Phony king of England.
Oh, the world will sing of an English King A thousand years from now And not because he passed some laws Or had that lofty brow While bonny good King Richard leads The great crusade he's on We'll all have to slave away For that good-for-nothin' John Incredible as he is inept Whenever the history books are kept They'll call him the phony king of England *All* A pox on the phony king of England! Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā ā€œCare to take the next verse Little John?ā€ I asked Robinā€™s second in command.
ā€œCertainly.ā€ Little John said in a posh tone. Ā As Little John sung the next verse, behind the camp a little puppet show was being put on. Ā Friar Tuck had made with a small bag of empty grain and old rags a stick puppet of Prince John.
As he made the puppet of our ā€˜goodā€™ Prince John prance around (the crown slipping off his head of course), the Blacksmith Adam Sharpe raised his arm up wearing a yellow sock, representing his snake counselor Sir Heston.
The two of them acted out their ā€˜old married coupleā€™ arguments with Heston nagging into the Princeā€™s ear before the friar peeked his hand through the shirt of his puppet to choke Sir Heston. Ā As well as beating him on the head.
Adam Sharpe then shook his hand and took the stick back and began to hit the Prince John puppet back twice as hard over the head sending him down. Ā Then the good ol Friar proceeded to mimic our Prince John sucking his thumb with the puppet, all pouty faced and everything.
It got the whole crowd laughing and rolling on their side right before Adam hit the puppet over the head once again, this time obliterating it to pieces. Ā As Adam and the Friar peeked up and looked at the puppet, they merely shrugged and turned to their audience and bowed their heads.
*Little John*
He sits alone on the giant throne Pretendin' he's the king A little tyke who's rather like A puppet on a string And he throws an angry tantrum If he cannot have his way And then he calls for Mom
While he's suckin' his thumb You see, he doesn't want to play Too late to be known as John the First He's sure to be known as John the Worst A pox on that phony king of England! Lay that country on me, babe! Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā As the band and I kept playing our merry tune, the people proceeded to dance.
It was like the festivals of old that Nottingham was once famous for. Ā Yeah you wouldnā€™t believe it if I hadnā€™t told you but Nottingham is best known for all of itā€™s fabulous festivals. Ā We had parties that even made the people in London tremble with envy.
I saw Robin and Marian dancing together, spinning around one another and never once releasing each otherā€™s hands. Ā Arthur and the Merry Men doing a little jig together, then my eyes turned to James and Gale (whom I would say were the most passionate dancers).
Doing spins, tricks, and him raising her up in the air before setting her back down. Ā Never have I seen the village so happy since King Richard left for the crusades. Ā It was like things were going back to normal.
But enough of that, I got back to the final verse of my song as the villagers clapped along and our two lovely ladies Gale and Marian began to dance with each other. Ā The two ladies joined hands before spinning away from each other to go to their next partners.
Marian went with the Bucher while Gale went to Adam Sharpe. The two ladies joined hands with their male partners and spun around before Gale moved onto Arthur. Ā She and the future Count joined hands with each other and spun around each other, while next to them Marian now danced with Adam and the Bucher clapped along to the beat.
After a few more spins, Gale went to the Bucher while Marian went over to Arthur and Adam now clapped to the beat. Ā After that the men now clapped as our two ladies rejoined hands and danced around each other, all smiles and laughing joyously.
Almost close to the end of my song, I leaned down towards young Michael Sharpe and pointed out and soon sticking himself through the once Prince John puppet was the scoundrel Robin Hood. Ā The crown sliding down perfectly onto his head.
As the crowd began to laugh, Gale soon attacked her brother in a hug from behind. Ā She leaned against her brother while Robin playfully ruffled his little sisterā€™s hair. She pushed her brotherā€™s hand off her hair and took the crown and placed it on her head as the two fox siblings stuck their tongues out cheekily. While he taxes us to pieces And he robs us of our bread King Richard's crown keeps slippin' down Around that pointed head Ah! But while there is a merry man In the foxes wily pack We'll find a way to make him pay And steal our money back A minute before he knows we're there Ol' Rob and Gale'll snatch his underwear The breezy and uneasy king of England The snivellin', grovellin' Measly, weasely Blabberin', jabberin' Gibberin', jabberin' Plunderin', plottin' Wheelin', dealin' Prince John, that phony king of England Yeah!
Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā Yes my darling we partied in Sherwood forest till the sun began to rise in the sky. It warmed my heart so much having that little party, like I told you itā€™s the most fun weā€™ve had in years.
Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā After everyone left Sherwood forest to return to their homes, all that left was the royal trio, Robin, Gale and the rest of the Merry Men. Ā Now I should mention this in advance, they probably wouldnā€™t want me telling this part but Iā€™m a nosy person so I couldnā€™t help myself.
Prince James and Gale excused themselves to have a little privacy. Ā So the two of them ended up deeper into the woods where a romantic cliffside stood. You can see the sunrise so clearly without any hindrance of trees, bushes, or even the mountains.
James and Gale cuddled close together as the night became the dawn. Ā Gale resting her head against Jamesā€™ shoulder and James having his arm wrapped around her waist, his head resting on top of hers.
ā€œIā€™ve always loved the sunrise. I always found it to be the most beautiful sight in the world.ā€ Gale said.
ā€œYeah. Beautiful.ā€ James whispered in awe looking down at her, completely ignoring the sunrise. Ā She looked up to see him looking down at her. Ā She shyly blushed before turning her head away but James tipped her chin back up to look at him. ā€œGaleā€¦ā€¦meeting you has probably been the best thing that ever happened to me.ā€
ā€œEven given the circumstance?ā€ she said as she fingered the scar under his chin from where she had hit him with the rock.
ā€œI let you take that hit.ā€
ā€œSure, sure keep telling yourself that.ā€ She hummed.
ā€œI wouldnā€™t go insulting me.ā€ He warned.
ā€œOh yeah? Whyā€™s that?ā€ she challenged.
ā€œBecause.ā€ He gave her a kiss. ā€œI seem to recall that you.ā€ he kissed her cheek before growling in her ear. ā€œAre ticklish.ā€ He then attacked her sides with tickles and Gale began laughing. Ā James kept a tight grip onto her sides as he growled an evil chuckle as she kept laughing.
ā€œOKAY! OKAY STOP! Stop! Stohahahp!ā€ he ceased his attacks and the two continued to stare at each other.
ā€œThereā€™sā€¦ā€¦another reason why I wanted you alone.ā€
ā€œAnd what was that reason Charming?ā€ he took a deep breath before exhaling out and he said as he took her left hand and stared deeply into her eyes.
ā€œGale, meeting you has been the best thing that ever happened to meā€¦.ā€
ā€œYou said that already.ā€
ā€œWill you let me finish?ā€ he laughed.
ā€œSorry, go head. Go ahead.ā€
ā€œYouā€™re not like most girls. Youā€™re strong, independent, a skilled fighter, a wild spirit. But you also have a kind soul, a heart of gold, and are loyal to your cause. The people of Nottingham are in your debt. Noā€”all of England is in your debt.ā€
ā€œWell I wouldnā€™t go that far.ā€
ā€œModesty. Thatā€™s another thing that Iā€™ve always loved about you. You think you deserve nothing when you deserve the entire world. You care not for gold or riches in return for your services. But Iā€”I hope that my love andā€¦ā€¦.ā€
ā€œJames.ā€ She interrupted him. ā€œYour love is all Iā€™ve ever needed. In fact all I ever need in this world to be happy is you.ā€
ā€œAnd you will. You will always have me my love, but Iā€”I hope I can also have this.ā€ He stood up till he was on one knee and he took something out of his pocket.
A small blood red ring box.
He opened it and inside was a beautiful engagement ring. A small diamond stood at the center while emerald and blue jewels surrounded the golden band. Ā Gale gasped and looked up at James.
ā€œIt was my motherā€™s engagement ring. Before I left for London, my father gave it to me and told me to give this ring to the one woman whom would make my life worth wild. Worth fighting for, worth living for. And Galeā€”you are that woman. Soā€¦ā€¦will you Gale Hood, like to spend an eternity by my side as my wife?ā€
Gale was speechless. Ā Helpless as she stared into those eyes of his. Ā Her breathing slightly increased as she choked out.
ā€œBut youā€”you know I am of not royal blood. What would thatā€¦..ā€
ā€œTo hell with those ol farts! Or anyone else who deems it wrong. All I know is that a world without you by my side is a world not worth living. As long as Iā€™m alive Gale I swear to the mighty Father above youā€™ll never feel alone again.ā€
A smile spread across Galeā€™s face as she finally told him the two words that would forever seal their fate together.
ā€œI do.ā€ Jamesā€™ face lightened up with a smile as he placed the ring on her finger and the two young lovers kissed each other lovingly. Their faces being cupped by the other person before they embraced one another.
After releasing from their embrace, James wrapped his arms around his future wife and held her left hand, the two of them admiring his motherā€™s ring on her finger.
ā€œI know you said you werenā€™t the jewelry type. But this ring suits you.ā€
ā€œI think Iā€™m starting to agree with you. I love you, Charming.ā€
ā€œAnd I you, my sly vixen.ā€ They kissed each other softly before turning back to see the sun now up in the sky.
As the day went on, the townā€™s folk would secretly sing my song to themselves, like it was their own secret little code. Ā And I wouldnā€™t believe it for myself but even ol ā€˜stick up his arseā€™ Sheriff of Nottingham heard of the song and couldnā€™t help but sing it to himself.
He came into the palace to deliver his daily tax fees that he had collected. Ā And he was singing the song to himself while at the desk, Sir Heston was looking down at the records and heard the Sheriff singing.
He throws an angry tantrum If he cannot have his way He calls for Mom and sucks his thumb And doesn't want to play Too late to be known as John the First He's sure to be known as John the Worst
Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā The two of them laughed about it as the Sheriff said.
Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā ā€œHow about that huh?ā€
ā€œThatā€™s PJ to a T. Let me try, let me try.ā€ Heston laughed. He then began to clear his throat trying to find the right key as he began to sing, unaware that just behind the Sheriff with a wine bottle in his hand, was Prince John himself.
To late to be known as John the first
Heā€™s sure to be known as John the worsā€”
When Heston saw Prince John standing behind him, the snake stammered as he began to quickly change the insults to praises.
ā€œThe fabulous. Marvelous, merciful. Sheerā€”ā€
ā€œNo, no, no, no, no! You got it all wrong Heston. The Snivellin, grovellin, measly, weaslinā€¦..ā€
ā€œENOUGH!!!!ā€ Prince John roared. Ā He threw the wine bottle over the Sheriffā€™s head. Ā The glass shattered to pieces as he was now drenched in wine.
ā€œNo, no, no sire I would never personally call you that. Itā€™s just the whole village has been singing it. All day in fact.ā€
ā€œOh they have, have they? Wellā€¦..theyā€™ll be singing a different tune.ā€ The arrogant prince threatened as he got up in the Sheriffā€™s face. ā€œDouble the taxes! Triple the taxes! SQUEEZE EVERY LAST DROP OUT OF THOSE INSOLENTā€¦ā€¦musical peasants.ā€
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Movie Review: Pirates of the Caribbean:Ā Dead Manā€™s Chest (POTC #2) (2006)
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Genre: Action/Adventure/Fantasy
Rating: 10/10
Movie Review:Ā 
Here we are, with the second POTC movie. One I clearly havenā€™t seen in years because there were parts I couldnā€™t remember. Which makes me glad that I am bingeing through the movies close together so I can see how the storylines sweep together.Ā 
The opening image of Elizabeth Swann on the ground, in her wedding dress, in the pouring rain is one of the best openers I have ever seen. It immediately starts the mood of this story. Within that first scene (by the way, Will was HOT AS SHIT in his wedding suit, can we bring that please????), we know everyoneā€™s goals, their drives. We see how theyā€™re willing to fight for each other. Itā€™s showing their love. Will makes a deal, Elizabeth saves herself with a pistol to a manā€™s head. They are using theirĀ ā€œstreet smartsā€ from being amongst the pirates to save themselves and each other.Ā 
Iā€™ll talk about things in whole, instead of breaking it down like I did with the first movie review. Because at this point, we know everyone-- we know where they stand, what they want, who they love, itā€™s just more added into the storyline for these characters.Ā 
Davy Fucking Jones is so damn terrifying and cool. Let me be frank for a moment: Davy Jones had never been a person in folklore (at least that I have found-- they canā€™t confirm if it was a real person or someone like Robin Hood who couldā€™ve existed but thereā€™s no proof), so I donā€™t know why itā€™s called Davy Jonesā€™s Locker. Who is Davy Jones? The term of the Locker just meant shipwrecks. And then The Flying Dutchman ship was a separate sailing folklore, about a ghost ship people would see before they die, like as an omen. These are real stories, ones even my grandfather knew when he was in the Navy (guys! Whenever they crossed the equator, they would play a game across the ship in honor of Neptune to protect them while sailing-- HOW COOL IS SAILING FOLKLORE???). But I LOOOOOOVE how these screenwriters combined to the two. They seamed the stories so flawlessly that I kind of want the two of them to exist with one another forever now. IT IS PERFECT. Davy Jonesā€™s Locker is the Flying Dutchman, that heĀ ā€œprotectsā€ the dead sailors, and that they are still seeing the Flying Dutchman before they die, still as an omen. What a fantastic way to put two stories together. And the twist that Davy Jones is horrible andĀ ā€œevilā€ because he has no heart. A story as old as time, but hey, it works. It makes SENSE. I remember thinking that stories are all about love, arenā€™t they? Itā€™s always about love, whether you have it or not. And Bill Nighy does such a wonderful job at this role. If you look up the actor, you would never, ever suspect him being able to play one of the best villains in film history. But this actor does it all with voice and HIS EYES. Look at his eyes, constantly. I found myself staring into his eyes more than at his tentacles. Because Nighy told the story of Davy Jones through his eyes, and my god, heā€™s a master.Ā 
Bootstrap Bill Turner is everything we needed, donā€™t you agree? We finally get to meet Willā€™s father! And heā€™s incredibly heartbreaking. This is a man trapped in this hell, and yet, heā€™s still willing to protect his son through this world that he knows so well. LOVE. Didnā€™t I say love is at the heart of these stories? I only wish we had learned more of Willā€™s mother and family life-- was his father always a pirate? How long had been one? And did Willā€™s mother know? Because Will sure didnā€™t. And he went searching for his father. (*wink wink* think of POTC #5 foreshadowing *wink wink*). But seeing their relationship unfold her was incredible. We watched a father meet his adult son, and a son meet his father again as an adult. In some ways, they werenā€™t exactly Father and Son, they were friends. (I can see this, because my grandfather didnā€™t meet his father until he was 13, and he says he saw his dad more as a friend than a father). We saw a father have hope after finding love for his son once again (he was no longer stagnant, he had something to fight for), and a son finding more of himself with his father. Another love story.Ā 
Tia Dalma is freaking incredible. Her magic, her wisdom (while being vague) creates a new atmosphere that just ADDS to the story. They brought in a new magic system that is similar to voodoo/hoodoo (I think it is supposed to be heavily based off of it), and I adored it. I craved it. Sheā€™s one of my motherā€™s favorites and my oldest friend whoā€™s like my sister said she always remembered Tia Dalma from the movies. She leaves an impression, because she creates something to the stories that is new for us.Ā 
Norringtonā€™s return can be expected, but how he returns is rather unexpected. We see a man broken by a decision he made, suffering consequences that he doesnā€™t like. At the end of POTC #1, we saw a man, a soldier, knowing that maybe the system heā€™s in isnā€™t all itā€™s cracked up to be. But when he decided to set Jack Sparrow and Will Turner free, that system tossed him away. Now, a man so lost in what he should do, not knowing who he should become, he takes advantage and steals (PIRATE!) papers so he can go back to the system he thinks he belongs. He wants to be a Commander again. He wants to be a part of the world he only knows. Heā€™s afraid of change. He doesnā€™t know what to do.Ā 
Honestly, this entire film series is about everyone finding themselves, discovering who they want to be. Facing change in the face and what they will do because of it. Even some of these sides characters.Ā 
I forgot how creepy Beckett is. Heā€™s the true villain of the story. Heā€™s a man in power who takes advantage of that power to do things that are despicable and terrible. Heā€™s someone without a heart. Did you catch that? Beckett and Davy Jones are doubles. They are used to show two different sides-- Davy Jones had his heart broken, so he cut out his heart and became heartless. Beckett has his heart, but heā€™s still heartless. Interesting how the living human is somehow worse than theĀ ā€œcreature,ā€ isnā€™t it? I hate Beckett and donā€™t want to talk about him anymore. Because I know you all hate him just as much as me. He sucks, heā€™s vicious, and thatā€™s all we need to know.Ā 
Now, to me, this movie, at the core, feels like the first one. But it also feels different. I think itā€™s because we are more in this world, we understand it more, and itā€™s not so mysterious. But itā€™s really dark in the sense that we see the more viciousness of the world (the crow taking out the guyā€™s eye out at the prison is disgusting, lord).Ā 
Jack Sparrow is now the captain of his ship again. But heā€™s also hiding away from Davy Jones, from the deal he made with theĀ ā€œDevil.ā€ Like I said in the first movie review for this series, we know Jack will do whatever he can to protect himself, and this movie truly shows that. But I think heā€™s also learning more in this movie-- especially when he sees more of how Davy Jones treats his men. Heā€™s scared, he doesn't know what to do-- much like Norrington. Now, saying this, I thought it was horrible that he willingly tricked Will to leave him in his place aboard the Flying Dutchman. Like, huh? I know Jack Sparrow always has a plan, but this one didnā€™t feel like that. But it was a learning point for him, I think, and that was the point of this movie for him. Heā€™s making mistakes, heā€™s learning.Ā 
Elizabeth dressing as a boy and reentering this world of pirates is absolutely wonderful. Seeing her in the clothes (after sheā€™s out as herself) and fighting with swords is what I adore about her. Sheā€™s easily the one who can transform into what she needs to protect herself, rather adaptable, and sheā€™s doing it find Will and save him. Her entire scene with Norrington, Jack, and Will fighting for the chest is such a great scene. Her yelling at them and then fainting just shows her willingness to try different things. Sheā€™s intelligent, thatā€™s for damn sure. Sheā€™s trying different tactics to get menā€™s attention-- knowing and understanding her place as a woman and hilariously using them to her advantage-- even though it doesnā€™t work. But her sheer strength and will to protect herself and her love shows and breathes more life into her. My only complaint is, Elizabeth, why the hell didnā€™t you tell Will that the kiss with Jack was a trick? I get why she didnā€™t, okay, but it didnā€™t help anyone. Communication is key in a relationship! But itā€™s fine, I suppose. Sheā€™s figuring things out herself.Ā 
I must say, Barbossa coming back is WONDERFUL. Heā€™s such a fan favorite I think, and of course they have to bring him back. I will fight anyone who doesnā€™t want him back. Heā€™s the perfect, hilarious tension with Jack.Ā 
I may be forgetting some other comments I wanted to make, but if I am, I will add more as a thread on here. But I think I have mentioned all my main thoughts of this movie. Itā€™s wonderful, itā€™s a joy, and just a great adventure.Ā 
And also, I wanted to add, at the end, this is my favorite part of the whole series, quite honestly. Right when they see the native peoples on the island chasing after Jack when they are trying to escape.Ā 
The best.Ā 
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smoliboops Ā· 5 years ago
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the egos as different (new who) incarnations of the Doctor: revisted
(havent written an analysis type of thing in a while, miss sharing ideas with people in general aha :ā€™D)
originally 2am thoughts/concepts that i might draw aka revisiting the concept of the egos as different regenerations of the doctor (debate and additions are welcome):
schneeplestein- nine
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(first regeneration after the time war and as such major guilt and lonliness from being the sole survivor who also had to be the one to end it. this paralleling to schneepā€™s 9 month disappearance and his possible guilt resulting from the events of say goodbye and moreso kill jse (as well as schneep probably doing risky things in the name of stopping anti). other things including, sass, calling humansĀ ā€œstupid apesā€, rational, angry sometimes, but can appreciate the ancient human music that is tainted love, saving their friend/companion and telling them to live a good life as they head off to face their longtime enemy,the pain you see on his face when he gets compared to said enemy (ā€you would make a good puppet dalek), bananas being good source of potassium)
chase- ten
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(is kind of a mess but a cool mess, generally the most emotional/human of the incarnations, starts off as a cool, charismatic type of guy but slowly goes downward into a spiral of sadness and lonliness as everyone he loved leaves (ya see the connection im getting at?), loses the girl he loved and missing the chance to tell her he loved her,Ā ā€im fineā€ he says as he just lost his best friend and is now alone standing in the pouring rain, accidentally quoting the lion king and harry potter but also ā€œno second chances im that kind of man,ā€ loves little shops and making things that go ding and silly made up words like ā€œwibbly wobbly timey wimeyā€, literally Human Nature/Family of Blood shows how much he wanted a human life with a wife and kids and the episode "the doctor's daughter" where he finally gets a kid and loses her, the hero who goes from saving the universe with all his friends around him to him dying alone not wanting to go, literally called ā€œthe man that regretsā€ in dotd, listen to love don't roam on YouTube)
jj- eleven
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(the doctor with the most confusing timeline, child-like wonder and the look of a young lad hiding the tired eyes of an old man who has seen and gone through so much, very protective of his fond family/people he loves, he literally snuck into a charlie chaplin film in s6ā€²s immpossible astronaut, also stayed in Victorian london for a time which would be jj's aesthetic tbh, can be silly and clumsy and starry-eyed while also being capable of becoming the oncoming storm, ā€œ Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why i have so many.ā€, great with kids, like weird/unique hatwear, b o w t i e s, g o g g l e s, just wants to go home even if itā€™s the long way round, ā€œevery lonely monster needs a companionā€ (you canā€™t tell me jj probably would still feel like a monster cos of how closely related he is to anti), and also theres puppets in two episodes of his, despite the darkness and loneliness it just made him kind, the optimist, the hoper of far flung hopes and the dreamer of improbable dreams )
marvin- twelve
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(recognizing gender as a concept far beyond them obvs, heā€™s literally called a magician half the time lol, avoiding death by rocking out in the 1500s with an electric guitar on top of an army tank,Ā ā€œcan you hurry up before i hit you with my shoeā€, as a morally gray character that many theorize whether heā€™s good/bad, marvin relates well to twelveā€™s whole journey of questioning if he was a good man and willing to learn the extents of what that means, tried his best to not only do right but to try to help those who werenā€™t good people who he knew needed help, would fight robin hood irl with a spoon and have a sign sayingĀ ā€œgo away humansā€, not totally great with social cues but he tries and thatā€™s what counts, seemingly cold and harsh and grump but take time to know him and heā€™s actually warm deep down, "do you think i care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?", wiliing to "go to hell" for their friend, not only protective of the people he loves but is also willing to to things like repeatedly die over 8 billion years and almost cause the destruction of the universe for the sake of saving his friend, would sacrifice himself recklessly in the name of standing up for what he believed in)
jackieboy man-thirteen
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(total ray of sunshine who also recognizes the dangers of being close to them (i.e. dying, forgetting, getting trapped in another time or parallel world, getting converted and dying, etc) and as such keeps those they love at a distance, literally not talking about who they truly were for a whole series cos they didn't want to wrap their family up into their own troubles they faced, adorably socially awkward/anxious but still perseveres in the face of danger and certain doom, "darkness never sustains, even though sometimes it feels like it might," would build their own gadgets, g o g g l e s, would eat dirt and bone dust for analysis, would save the day by becoming best friends with a sentient universe in the form of a frog, always tries to have a flat team structure but in reality "this team structure...it isn't flat. It's mountainous, with me, in the stratosphere, alone, left to choose. Save jack the poet, save the universe. Sometimes, even i can't win.", P U N S)
Bonus content: anti as sacha Dawhan's master
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like *chefs kiss* (LITERALLY pretended to be the doctor's friend for years until revealing he actually killed him before she met him and took his place (that gif is him just throwing away that dude's minituraized dead body btw), the kneel scene, his s m i l e, maniacal g l e e as he destroys everything and kills people all to cover up the pain and sadness and anger he feels inside because of her *cough a piece of SPOILER being inside him and him not being able to stand it is definitely anti/jack vibes cough*, also imagine this small exchange but between jackieboy man and anti:
The doctor: "proud of yourself?"
The master: "Definitely."
The doctor: "all this death...Finally made you happy?"
The Master, smiling: "Ecstatic."
The doctor, closer to his face: "And has it calmed all the rage?"
The master, pausing and looking away: "...I don't think anything will ever do that."
Also pls watch that spyfall pt1 reveal scene (basically the whole ending tbh), again it's just *chef's kiss*
Ok that's enough blabbering from me. Still debating on drawing the egos as the doctor (ooh maybe a screen cap redraw would be fun if some people have suggestions for an ep to ref for each one (granted who knows if I'd have time to draw them all but I'm curious anyway lol)) ok time to head out *yeets*.
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2k18leo Ā· 5 years ago
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TMNT 2007 talk
Okie dokie since weā€™ve been on hiatus for a long long time, but I still want to talk turtles, I figured Iā€™d talk about the TMNT 2007 film again. If youā€™ve been with my account for a while you may know what a huge fan I am of this particular movie (of course I love the other films and may talk about them at a later date, but this one just hits differently for me mainly because itā€™s what got me into the Ninja Turtles in the first place)Ā 
So, I have already briefly covered my take on the 2007 film as a whole.Ā  Aaaand, @my-sai-and-i _and_i wrote a post that goes in depth about the emotional scarring that the fight had on Leo and Raph. Itā€™s a wonderful post and you should def check it out šŸ‘ŒšŸ¼
I am currently watching the 2007 film (yet again (HA what is my count up to now? Canā€™t keep track. Lol moving onā€”)) and once again I am breathless at the climactic fight BATTLE that Leo and Raph have. Every single time I watch it, my love for the franchise grows even more. I think this may be because Iā€™m actually such a fan of the TMNT trope that is the constant butting heads of the two oldest brothers (oof sorry not sorry šŸ¤­). Iā€™m also going to talk mainly about this fight scene because itā€™s literally the EXACT scene that I started watching when I was first introduced to tmnt. That is already talked about in another post, however šŸ˜‚
Okaaay, letā€™s get into this thing. First off, the score for this chase scene is already making you very anxious for some sort of confrontation between the two boys. It gives you chills right off the back. Whenever Nightwatcher accidentally cornered himself I got to thinking what it would have been like if we had seen Leo and his trip out into the city instead of the diner scene with the 12th monster. Like, was he just out looking for Raph and heard police scanners saying there was an issue with the diner? Then he headed over to possibly help, but ran into the vigilante Nightwatcher. I can only assume he was already looking for Raph since Splinter right beforehand advised Leo that he needed to get off his high horse and work things out with Raph. Since April and Casey were in the lair, Iā€™m sure Leo didnā€™t expect Raph to go back to their apartment. He probably went around to their old hangout places in the city (before Leo was sent to South America) but since he had been gone so long, maybe he figured his brothers didnā€™t hang out anymore since it wasnā€™t all four of them. Sure, Caseyā€™s a great friend, but never a replacement for one of the turtles. Leo could have also gone back to the construction site that they had partly demolished with that first monster a couple nights prior. Raph did make a point in saying that they needed to find out who was responsible for the sudden burst of creatures in New York. Donā€™t get me wrong, learning where the 12th monster was when Raph fought it was important I guess? I mean, it made the stone generals stationed in the area, but still not THAT close to where Raph and Leo ended up (they ran quite a ways. A mile at least.)
Okay, back to the rooftop scene. The setting was beautiful and I justā€” *chefā€™s kiss* love it. The rain. The red glow of the Red Eye Club sign. Which, Iā€™m just now thinking about this but if an English teacher was asking you what the red sign symbolized I do believe that that could be some sort of symbol/foreshadow that Raph will be the one who comes out victorious in the upcoming brawl. In case Iā€™m not completely giving that a whole-ass stretch, I looked up the Red Eye Club to see if it was a real place but all I got were a bunch of pictures of marijuana so Iā€™m gonna assume NOPE. It could be a minor detail or it could just be aĀ coincidence šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø I mean the neon sign did not have to be red specifically. Lol donā€™t @ me šŸ˜‚
Anyway, I love the way the rain falls on the metal of Raphā€™s armor. I can only imagine how much of a BITCH that rain was to animate.Ā 
Leo starting off with the good cop persona is very in touch with his character and I like. Heā€™s still the ā€œtalk first, shoot laterā€ wise character we LOVE, while Raph is so much the opposite (which we LOVE JUST AS MUCH (ugh sorry im gushing again)). I like how Raph stayed silent. He didnā€™t give his identity up. He didnā€™t try to stop Leo from starting a fight. He WANTED to fight Leo. And this was the perfect opportunity without Leo holding back by being aware of his own brother under the suit. Itā€™s sort of like a Red Hood/Batman type scene. And, itā€™s hardly audible but, Leo then continues to try and calm down the vigilante by saying ā€œThe road youā€™re on is a dead-end. Believe me, Iā€™ve tried it.ā€ He has no idea who is behind the mask. For all he knows, heā€™s talking to a complete stranger, yet he is still trying to be the voice of reason. The Nightwatcher could be a deranged murderer for all he knows. He is only aware of what the News has been recently saying. You can tell he doesnā€™t know everything about this vigilante (which, side note but, this all seems a bit hypocritical if Iā€™m honest. Up until Donnie and Mikey got jobs, all the turtles/Casey/possibly April did was vigilantism. I mean, does Leo think that the Nightwatcher is correlated with the monster sightings? Is that his main reason for being a vigilante to stop a vigilante??) ALSO when Leo said ā€œā€¦believe me, Iā€™ve tried itā€ is that referencing his time in South America? I know he ā€œgot caught up in his own worldā€ and ā€œforgot about everyone elseā€ but does that necessarily correlate with what heā€™s talking about? Did something really bad happen in South America that we didnā€™t see? Did he become like Hawkeye (cough* Ronin) in Endgame?Ā 
This also makes me wonder what would have happened if Donnie and Mikey had gone out to help Leo search for Raph. It could have been like a Teen Titans scene where Robin was posing as Red X and the rest of the titans unknowingly fought their ally because he was seemingly just another villain. If things played out that way, Iā€™m not even sure that Raph would have put up much of a fight. He didnā€™t have any major beef with his younger brothers. The scene would have probably been way less emotional as well. Plus, Leo probs wouldnā€™t have been captured.Ā 
Whenever Raph first wields his weapons, signifying heā€™s ready to fight, Leo gives a very small smirk. He wants to fight as much as Raph does. But for different reasons. Raph knows his opponent and is angry with himā€” furious even. Leoā€¦ I think deep down he loves to fight. He knows heā€™s good at it. He knows heā€™s going to win. But itā€™s probably been a long time since heā€™s actually felt that great adrenaline rush of a fight (yes, Iā€™m aware he was in the fight with the first monster but thatā€™s not a one-on-one duel) Which is why when he says ā€œTrust me when I tell you. You donā€™t want to do thisā€ he says it in a way that heā€™s still trying to be the voice of reasonā€¦ BUT itā€™s also very much a threat. Heā€™s been wanting a proper fight for a while. Thereā€™s a certain thrill Iā€™m sure he gets when heā€™s faced with someone who is probably an even match for him. Even with the threat he gives, heā€™s fully aware that his opponent will strike.Ā 
COCKY LEO.Ā 
Iā€™m not going to even try to get into the subject as to why on earth Leo cannot recognize his own brother under the suit because @my-sai-and-i already explained that WAY better.Ā 
I mean, Leo is chuckling as the Nightwatcher does his second swing. Itā€™s funny to him because he still knows heā€™s going to win this fight. There is no doubt in his mind that he will defeat this amateur clown in a costume. But this is the way, Iā€™m absolutely positive, Leo acted as a teenager to common criminals on the streets.Ā  Heā€™s always known how good he was at fighting, so I can bet money he was cocky growing up. And yeah, itā€™s way different than how he was fighting the raiders in the beginning of the film. Back in South America he acted all dark and silent, more than likely trying to keep up the persona of the Ghost of the Jungle. If he acted all cocky and obnoxious to the raiders, Iā€™m sure word would get out, which might frighten the villagers even more. Being his sneaky stealthy self, he was less likely to scare the villagers, and probably able to keep up the thought that he was just a peaceful legend (kind of like Katara as the Painted Lady in Avatar (Iā€™m referencing soooo many other things, but it makes sense to me šŸ˜‚)) So, now that Leoā€™s back in the place where he grew up, of course, his old cocky tendencies would come back. Itā€™s almost nostalgic for him.Ā 
Another thing. Leo is completely defensive for the majority of this fight. He hardly ever throws an actual blow. He jumps back out of the way when the Nightwatcher swings his chain at him again. Which is a completely smart move. Another reason to note that he KNOWS WHAT HEā€™S DOING. Heā€™s fought for about 20 years (we donā€™t actually know their ages in this movie (or do we ?) but I would guess around 18-20 ??) so heā€™s fully aware of the fact that one of the best fighting techniques is letting your opponent tire themselves out so you can then finish them off and become victorious. But Raphā€™s temper has always led him to go guns blazing. Shoot first, questions later.Ā 
Leo continues to mock the Nightwatcher because he knows heā€™s going to get a rouse out of him. He spent a good enough time sparring with Raph to figure out how to egg on that temper. A temper that would then make Raph angry and thoughtless, thus becoming rash with his fighting technique. Ultimately becoming careless and in total defeat. Again, donā€™t get me started on how Leo has NOT recognized his brother yet. Even after Leo has eluded yet another strike from the chains and the Nightwatcher turns around, Leo still gives a CHUCKLE to his face. Heā€™s begging for that temper to be released. Heā€™s ready for a real fight. And Raphā€™s more than ready to finally kick his big brotherā€™s ass.Ā 
Raph absolutely takes on the offense with a full charge to Leo as he does three heavy swings. Leo eludes all three until coming back with a counter-attack on the third. Leo does a fair job of holding his defense until Raph throws a huge right hook to the side of Leoā€™s head. I mean, itā€™s enough to knock him back a few paces and shake it off. This is when his face really goes completely serious. Heā€™s just been caught off guard. Thereā€™s something in him thatā€™s telling him to quit the wise-guy act. I mean, it was a simple punch, something Iā€™m sure he is mentally beating himself up for misreading. Yet, he doesnā€™t charge back. He stands his ground while Raph is still the offender.Ā 
Then Leo tries to continue to coach this dude by telling him how anger is destructive. This is probably something Splinter did as they were growing up. Also, Leo never once unsheathes his weapons on the Nightwatcher (yes, he ultimately does with Raph, but thatā€™s later on. Hold tight, my dude). Even when the Nightwatcher drew out his chains, Leo didnā€™t react by drawing his own blades. I feel like being able to hold your own during hand-to-hand shows power/strength, while fighting with weapons shows skill. Which is another reason why I think Leo teased him at the beginning of the fight; he didnā€™t really expect this vigilante to have had any actual training with these weapons. Heā€™s probably just some punk who thinks itā€™s cool. Another Casey Jones or Purple Dragon that could probably be knocked on his ass in 3 hits max.Ā 
Leoā€™s uppercut is powerful as hell. He shot Raph like 6 feet in the air. And that canā€™t be easy. I canā€™t imagine how much these boys weigh. Theyā€™ve got the mass of a typical bodybuilder + the weight of their shell + the weight of their weapons PLUS Raphā€™s entire armor. Thatā€™s heavy as hell.Ā 
Okay. The ā€œGoodnight, Dark Princeā€ line. I donā€™t like it. It doesnā€™t seem to fit. When has this character ever been referred to as the Dark Prince? The only other thing Leo has referred to this vigilante is Nightwatchmen. Though, I get that it would be kinda redundant to say ā€œGoodnight, Nightwatcher.ā€Ā 
Thatā€™s another thing. Leo never meant to kill this dude. Just knock him out to drop him off at the police station later. Leo doesnā€™t kill. I mean, the very beginning of the film where he had his one-on-one with the raider leader almost implied that he killed him. Because the shot changed as soon as Leo made contact with the guy and all you hear is a loud scream making a flock of birds fly away in fright. If he was dark enough to kill these types of men (because IF he killed him, that probably wasnā€™t the first guy he had killed) in South America, thatā€™s most likely the ā€œdark pathā€ / ā€œdead-endā€ that he was referring to earlier. But I guess being back in the city does make him revert back to his old tendencies (but it shouldnā€™t completely disregard whatever messed up shit he had done in South America. That stuff should still be carried with him). Not even Raph is low enough to kill criminals. In his first scene in the film all Raph does is knock out some burglars and chain them up for the cops to find later on. It makes me wonder what would it have been like if Raph had gone to South America instead of Leo, while Leo stayed in the city. Would Leo have taken on his role of his own Nightwatcher? In the 2012 series, we see him become some sort of vigilante but heā€™s got Karai and Shinigami with him. It doesnā€™t seem very in character for Leo to go solo like Raph did. Of course, Leo would still miss the fight, but Iā€™m sure heā€™d wise up and get a job just like his younger brothers.Ā 
Okay, here we go. Hereā€™s that brother angst weā€™ve been waiting for. When Leo first realizes whoā€™s actually behind the mask, heā€™s not angry. Heā€™s not mad. Not even disappointed. Heā€™s really just shocked out of his mind. Complete disbelief. He just walks closer to Raph in hopes to talk to him. Perhaps apologize for fighting him just moments before, that he truly had no idea. But Raph doesnā€™t even turn to face his brother before doing a powerful back kick to Leoā€™s chest. Which, of course, takes Leo by surprise. Sure they had had a couple arguments since heā€™s been back but honestly thatā€™s how Leo remembered things being with Raph. He remembered small quarrels. Nothing serious. They had always butted heads. Even though Splinter warned Leo that Raph had taken Leoā€™s absence pretty hard, he didnā€™t really know what that meant until now. He didnā€™t understand why his brother had so much pent up rage toward him.Ā 
And Raph is throwing all these words at Leo. Calling him out by saying that he believes the world revolves around him. That they couldnā€™t possibly survive without him. Iā€™m sure these words sting a bit to Leo but thatā€™s not what heā€™s focused on. Heā€™s starting to register everything. THIS is why Raph has always had an issue with him. THIS is the reason for his younger brotherā€™s constant attitude. And when Raph says that they got along just fine without Leo, for a split second, you can totally see the pain that causes Leo. Like, that shit hurted. But he raises his voice and retaliates by calling him out on his bullshit. Heā€™s telling Raph how immature it is that heā€™s taken up this new persona (*cough* still a tad hypocritical since he did basically the same thing as Ghost of the Jungle) because itā€™s causing danger to their family. I mean, at least the villagers were never truly afraid of Ghost, but the citizens of New York are terrified at what the Nightwatcher is and his motives. Itā€™s all theyā€™re talking about on the News lately. Raph has been causing a panic without even realizing it because heā€™s been too blinded by his own good intentions.Ā 
But Raph doesnā€™t want to hear it. Leo hasnā€™t been around. He left. He wasnā€™t there when the turtles were just sitting by without a leader while criminals still ran amok. I mean, Raph has been angry at the thought ā€œwhy does Leo get to go?ā€ ā€œWhat are we supposed to do now?ā€ And with Donnie and Mikey being too passive to stop Raph, there really isnā€™t anyone around to keep Raph from straying from this road. How can Leo honestly expect things to go back to normal?? How can this big shot waltz back into our lives after heā€™s missed the last year and a half? And how the hell does he think heā€™s still the boss of me?Ā 
And now Leo is trying to explain to him that the reason for being gone so long was to better himself for Raph and the boys. It wasnā€™t up to him to go to South America and be gone for so long. He didnā€™t ask for it. Just like Raph never asked to be second best. He didnā€™t want someone to lead him. This is just how things turned out. Neither of them can help what they went through in the past. Itā€™s just a recipe for disaster when one party is trying to be the best they can be for the other partyĀ and positively beats themselves up if they let the second party down. Aaand when the second party is completely resentful of the first party because they were chosen for the role the second party wanted. Leo canā€™t get over the fact that no matter what he does to better himself for Raph, Raph will still disregard it. And Raph canā€™t get over the thought of the living embodiment of perfection that is his older brother, so heā€™s angry with himself for not being as perfect and takes it out on Leo.Ā 
And Raph has become his own leader. Heā€™s become a lone-wolf that doesnā€™t need a leader anymore. He has good intentions (even though they are not being followed through quite right) and Leo is just coming back and messing everything up. Things have changed and Leo needs to realize this. But Raph also needs to take into consideration that Leo is trying to realize this. Heā€™s been trying to reconnect with his brother. But Raph has put up such a strong wall around everyone that he thinksĀ talking isnā€™t going to help.
Leo telling Raph that he isnā€™t ready to become his own leader is a tiny bit selfish in my opinion? I mean, I agree, but still. Like Leo sees that Raph never went on a hardcore training period off in some jungle halfway across the world. So, he thinks, how CAN Raph be ready if he hasnā€™t done that? But thatā€™s the thing. Leo and Raph have their own way of doing things. Leo, in multiple iterations, tries so hard to have his brothers be exactly like him. If he achieves something a certain way, he expects his brothers to reach their achievements by doing it the exact same way. But Raph is fully capable of reaching his achievements his own way (same with Donnie and Mikey). Thatā€™s something that Leo has had a difficult time wrapping his head around.Ā 
I also donā€™t feel like Leo outwardly staying that heā€™s better than Raph is true to his character. Thereā€™s no doubt in my mind that Leo believes that and has thought it on SEVERAL occasions. But with his ā€œgotta be the bigger manā€ personality, itā€™s hard to believe he would stoop so low as to actually say it to Raphā€™s face.Ā 
Now Raph laughs at this. And I feel like most of it is a fake laugh, but thereā€™s still a part of it thatā€™s real because heā€™s finally ready to show Leo that heā€™s better than him. This is the real fight that RAPH has been waiting for. The perfect match. The leader and the lone wolf. The Ghost of the Jungle and the Nightwatcher. Leo and Raph.Ā 
Leo still tries to have him call off this fight. Heā€™s confident in himself that he will win. Both parties are, in fact. Theyā€™ve both developed such different fighting styles since the time theyā€™ve sparred together, that theyā€™re basically strangers to each other now. They both know this isnā€™t going to end well. That things will be different after the dust (rain?) settles. Leo has a negative outlook on it. He doesnā€™t think that Raph will ever be happy towards him again. If anything, Raph will probably shun him. This defeat could push Raph over the edge. This could make Raph leave for real. He doesnā€™t want that. It pains him that he has to fight his little brother. But Raph? Raph has a positive outlook. He believes that after he defeats Leo, Leo will then see Raphā€™s true potential. Heā€™ll be recognized as the best, no longer second-best. He finally gets to prove to Leo that things are different.Ā 
Leo visibly sighs and shakes his head knowing thereā€™s no getting out of this fight. His stubborn little brother wonā€™t back down. It wouldnā€™t be honorable for Leo to stand down and admit defeat. It also wouldnā€™t be honorable to disgrace Raph by completely disregarding that heā€™s his brother and just going for the kill. Heā€™s at a complete crossroads here. So, ultimately, he draws his swords.Ā 
The shot of the two boys staring at each other from across the roof ā€” I want that as a poster !! Itā€™s so gorgeous. Iā€™m just noticing this now but itā€™s split JUST down the middle in terms of color. It gives a very yin and yang type picture. Leo is on the side where the red neon sign is glowing bright, thus making him glow a faint red color. Raph, on the opposite end, is on the side where the shine of the moon is hitting down, making his armor almost glow a pale blue. Ugh so much symbolism I may cry.Ā  Right off the bat you can tell the differences in the two boys. Raph has been in his ready-stance for a while. Heā€™s been waiting for this. Leo stands tall with blades in hand but not in an attack stance. Thereā€™s still that sliver of hope that Raph will back down. Itā€™s still early enough to put this behind them, but that window is fading fast. As the rain beats down around them, Leo realizes that the window is closed. Nothing will stop this fight. Itā€™s happening. There is no going back.Ā 
Per the theme this rainy evening, Raph is the first one to charge. He runs like the brute he has become, fists clenched around his sai so heā€™s ready to stab or punch. Leo charges in a very graceful samurai run. Also the music. The thundering drums that beat so deep and so fast. Itā€™s such a powerful scene.Ā 
The shot of the tip of Leoā€™s blade grazing the water on the roof is STUNNING. Honestly, who thinks of these details because I hope they got a RAISE back in 2007 šŸ˜‚ itā€™s beautifulĀ 
I also love how they both jumped toward each other as their first move. This shows that they are now both on the offense. Something snapped inside Leo to make him change up his tactics a bit. Almost to throw off Raph, who has never been the best at a defensive position. His strong suit is in the offense.Ā 
Still the differences between their fighting styles after the jump. Leo did a beautiful forward shoulder roll, which is a proper technique of coming out of a forward jump. It keeps your momentum going into your next attack. Raph landed on his feet which, may not be ideal, but gave him a split-second advantage to be on the offense for the next attack. Leo then had to block with his sword. This fight goes FAST. Iā€™m watching it so carefully and Iā€™m sure there are things that Iā€™m missing. I love how Leo does a roll over Raphā€™s shell, and up until now I figured he had made contact with his shell, but he actually didnā€™t because just as Leo started his roll, Raph ducked forward out of the way. Then Raph does a couple kicks towards Leoā€™s head, which cause water to sprinkle EVERYWHERE and itā€™s gorgeous. Raph is just going ham and not letting up on Leo as heā€™s still going for those strikes. (Lol I took a stage combat course over the summer so I know a little bit of the lingo (but good god I am no expert so please call me out if you know Iā€™m using improper terms)) Watching this scene makes me want to do a move chart with a list of moves they are doing and in the order theyā€™re doing it haha. Finally, Leo is able to squeeze in two strikes towards Raph, both of which he ducks and then blocks.Ā 
The camera angles are wonderful. Have I talked about that yet? I mean the shot of the two of them squaring off. The little shot of the two of them fighting between the E and the D in the neon sign. And even the upcoming shot from below when theyā€™ve got their weapons locked together. So beautiful.Ā 
This scene also really shows the details of the Nightwatcher suit.Ā 
And when Leo is able to do an X cross block with his swords at the downward blow Raph is throwing with his sai, and the camera angles are just moving with the characters. UGH. Here you can see that Leo really is mad. The fury of the fight is showing through his eyes as he watches his brother with a predator-like stare. *frantically looks up synonyms for furious* and boy oh boy, Raph is just seething as he twirls his blades. This small segment of them circling each other (sort of like a Spaghetti western style) is a fighting trope that I really dig. Sais are actually a lot larger than I gave them credit for. Those sharp boys are HUGE.Ā 
The way they have their teeth bared as they circle each other reminds me so much of two very dominate male animals fighting. Like two lions fighting for the pride. When Leo finally comes to a stop his eyebrows furrow just a tad bit more, almost impatiently waiting for Raph to make another offending move. Or possibly giving thought as if the fight was coming to its end. And Raphā€™s pupils are crazy dilated as he charges yet again. Itā€™s like a sickness that has infested his mind, this constant need to one-up his older brother. Itā€™s making him crazy. And the heaviness of that armor is making Raph charge like a rhino or something. And the shot of Leo tightening his grip on his blade gives the implication that there may have been a split second where he believed Raph was ready to be done with the fight.Ā 
Their eye contact hardly ever breaks during this scene. Raph is wanting to see that split second of worry in his brotherā€™s eyes. Heā€™s wanting to see that hesitation.Ā 
Now Leo charges and he has taken full offense. He strikes at Raph many times, closing him into the wall under one of the two signs. He throws seven blows before doing a jumping spin kick to Raphā€™s abdomen. You can tell that blow sent Raph back a ways, maybe even farther if that wall wasnā€™t there to stop him. He probably has some form of whiplash. And even as heā€™s starting to lock eyes with his opponent again, Leoā€™s sword comes RIGHT BY HIS NECK. Leo literally got so close to making a fatal would for Raph. And no, Leo had no intention of killing Raph. He was probably aiming to give Raph a nasty slash on his cheek. Just a warning. Something that would remind Raph to stay in his place.Ā 
Now here it is. The locking of their weapons. The climax of the fight. Raph is enraged and is gritting his teeth so hard that heā€™s shaking. In the shot from below, you can see the absolute force that they are using to one-up the strength of the other as their muscles are just quivering. And Raph tries to make himself become larger to push Leo back. Leo gives a quick glance down to his weapon in fear that the thin blade will give out. Swords arenā€™t meant to withstand this kind of pressure.Ā 
And when they do break. b o i. The shock and pain that sweeps through Leo is heartbreaking. He just lost. Even before Raph throws the final blow. Leoā€™s swords are finished, just as he is. His swords. The weapons heā€™s most likely had since he became leader all those years ago. A literal extension of his body. Taken away from him in an unforgivable instant. And right as Leo is taking a glance back up to Raph, Raph is already coming up to powerfully kick him straight through the jaw. Through his kick, Raph is still in his jump twirling around to deliver the fatal blow to his brotherā€™s head. The spear of his sai is centimeters away from Leoā€™s head as he falls back and hits the concrete behind him. As soon as his eyes open after being knocked back, he registers how close that blade was to piercing his skull. Heā€™s been around long enough to recognize a deadly shot. You can tell his mind is racing in that fraction of a second as he sees the blade and looks back up to Raph to question why on earth he would throw such a potentially devastating blow. And just like that, Raph standing above with Leo pinned to the ground, he has won. He has defeated Leo. Even still, you can see their expressions change numerous times as they process what has just happened. Raph still bares his teeth in anger/triumph. Heā€™s finally showing Leo what he thinks of his ā€œplaceā€. Finally showing him that he is a worthy opponent to Leo.Ā 
Again, Leo is in shock. All heā€™s thinking is ā€œwhyā€ and ā€œwhatā€ and many other synonyms for said terms. You can see his eyes flit between Raphā€™s own as he continuously tries to read what his brother is thinking. Then his brows furrow once more as it finally sinks in. Raph hated Leo for so long. Up until the point where he came close enough to kill him. It didnā€™t matter how much Leo trained to be better for Raph. Raph still hated him. Every fiber of his being. Heā€™s confused and frightened still as to why. Just because they fought doesnā€™t mean there was any resolution. Leo is still left in the dark as to WHY his brother actually despises him.Ā 
Raph, still seething, is beginning to shake all the way up to his face. Then it hits him. What heā€™s done. His pupils widen as his eyebrows slowly shift up. Thatā€™s Leo. Thatā€™s his older brother. Thatā€™s his family. Thatā€™s who heā€™s got pinned down. Who he nearly sent a sharp blade through the skull. Who he nearly murdered. Leo is still staring up at him, Iā€™m sure wondering how someone could be filled with so much hate. Maybe for a split second, if the Ghost of the Jungle actually did kill those raiders in South America, Leo saw himself in Raph. Perhaps that scared him. This could have been the path Leo was headed down if it wasnā€™t for April coming and pleading for Leo to return home. No one was able to help Raph. No one tried to stop him from going too far down this path. Was it because he had been absent? Was this all because he left? This is what Raph really thinks of Leo, huh?Ā 
I love how no words are spoken here, yet again. Itā€™s brilliant what can be said without any actual words. Thereā€™s so much emotion between the boys after what just happened.Ā 
And hereā€™s Raph again. Still processing. He tries to shake it away as if itā€™s just a bad thought or a nightmare. Heā€™s in disbelief of his own actions. He then starts to shy away from Leo as if in apology but honestly whatā€™s to be said after that that will make everything better? He also looks a little to the right of Leo, but we donā€™t get to see what heā€™s looking at. Up until this point,Ā Iā€™ve always just figured he was just looking away in thought, not on anything in particular. But now, I feel like he could possibly be looking at the rain falling on the concrete roofĀ as if to help him figure out that this is reality. That heā€™s actually here in this moment. And so is Leo. OR, he could be looking at Leoā€™s broken swords, which is also bringing him back to reality. He destroyed a part of his brother. He could have done so much more destruction. He gets up ever so gentlyĀ as if Leo is a paper doll that will break under his weight or a sudden shift of movement.Ā 
Leo still clutching onto his sword handles is probably subconscious instinct, like when something suddenly scares you and your muscles clench up and you hold tighter onto whatever. And here you can see that heā€™s actually showing that heā€™s in pain. His adrenaline is wearing off so the blows from just moments before are actually beginning to enflame his body. Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a part of him thatā€™s scared of Raph now. Like thereā€™s no more teasing or mocking. If he were to try it again, Iā€™m sure he believes things could spiral out of control again. Something neither of them wanted anytime soon. His face is a little hard to read when he stands up, but mostly because heā€™s in pain and is showing that in his gestures and expression. Knowing Leo, heā€™s probably mentally asking so many questions. Iā€™m sure he wants to talk. Iā€™m sure he wants Raph to talk. But what on earth are either of them to say?Ā 
Theyā€™re exhausted from the fight. Leo is visibly heaving his body. Raph is still stunned as ever as his eyes are fixed on his brother who is SOMEHOW ALIVE ?? He shakes his head slightly as the thought creeps through his mind again. As the more devastating idea enters. He doesnā€™t even want to consider what the aftermath would have been like. What if it actually happened. What if Leo wasnā€™t standing right in front of him? What if he was still on the concrete ground, covered in rain pellets, immovable. Justā€¦ still. With a single sai protruding from his head. No. He messed up. How could things ever be the same again? How could he move on from this? How could he go home and face his family? His brothers? Splinter? He feels like such a little kid. A scared child whoā€™s worried about the consequences of his actions. He would be disowned. He would be shunned. He would be hated. What was he to do? He glances down at his weapons, still in hand, and gives a tiny gasp. These were almost murder weapons. Of his own brotherā€™s death. So, he runs. Any specific destination, probably not. He just needed to be away from Leo. He has no idea if heā€™ll ever see him again. Or his family. He just messed up way too horribly. How would anyone be able to forgive him? How could Leo even be facing him?
As he turns away to disappear into the night, Leo inaudibly tries to call him back. Even after all that, Leoā€™s still trying to reach out to him. He doesnā€™t want Raph to leave. This is something they NEED to discuss. Heā€™s not mad or angry at his brother. Heā€™s confused. He could see it in Raphā€™s eyes that Raph was guilty about what he almost did. Iā€™m sure he doesnā€™t audibly call out to Raph because heā€™s partially too exhausted to do so. Plus, Iā€™m sure thereā€™s still a bit of fear right on the surface.Ā 
As Raph runs, he is most definitely ugly crying. But we canā€™t see that because of the pouring rain :ā€™D so. And then Leo gets captured and yadayada. Wow. I think I may be FINALLY done talking about this šŸ˜‚ Iā€™m exhausted. If you read this much Iā€™m honestly super proud of you and I appreciate you haha youā€™re amazing. If you have anything you want to talk about concerning the ninja turtles (preferably the 2007 film because itā€™s fresh on my mind, but Iā€™m also down to talk about the other movies or the tv shows) donā€™t even hesitate to ask. I love talking about the turtles. We can debate certain topics, gush about OTPs, talk about issues we had with certain things. I love all that.Ā 
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