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What do you think of The Owl House? Like, I liked and respect Dana a lot for what she's accomplished, but I also feel like everyone is just pretending that the show doesn't have any problems, as I felt that the cast was always very poorly developed from the beginning.
I like the show, I don't love it, but i think it's pretty good. TOH has a lot of really cool world building and lore, but I also found a lot of the characters really lacking. Three of my biggest annoyances were Luz, the characters having altered personalities after one episode and the underutilization of Luz's friends.
I think Luz is actually a great protagonist, my issue is when the show really loves to tease her as this flawed and morally complicated protagonist when... she isn't? any time she does something bad, its completely accidental. It's funny when the show first came out and people negatively compared her to Mabel because Mabel actually did make a lot of selfish and careless decisions that she had to grow from.
The show also had a bizarre habit of giving characters new personalities after their first appearance, and I think Amity is the worst offender of this. Her first appearance she's the generic mean girl bully, and this is used to create conflict and for Luz to befriend Willow. But then after that, all of a sudden she's super "cold" and keeps to herself, and the characters act like she's just the popular quiet girl? and then the show has the audacity to blame a lot of the bullying Amity did on her friends and parents. I have no clue why the flashback episodes portrayed it like Amity just watched as her friends bullied Willow, SHE was a part of that! Similar issue with Hunter. Introduced as a snarky brat, and then his next appearance he's incredibly angsty and depressed so the audience could sympathize with him. Willow and the Collector were also ones that stuck out to me, but it was a change that was subtle enough that I didn't notice.
I don't know why writers do this. I like it when your characters are messy and flawed, give them unlikable traits so we can watch them slowly be better people. Don't tell me someone is flawed and then don't give them flaws and don't tell me to sympathize with a character by just giving them a new personality.
I think everyone is pretty aware of how poorly utilized Luz's friends are but there are seriously so many episodes where I was like "why aren't Willow and Guz taking Amity's place". They really feel like a studio mandate.
Also Lumity is kind of boring but honestly, I don't really think its as big of a deal as some fans think it is. Lots of cartoons have straight couples that quarrel, get together and their relationship isn't the most compelling in the world, but its still pretty cute. If anything I do wish Amity would work through her issues more than have what little personality she had disappear when she dated Luz.
With your point about how fans handle criticism, admittedly I think part of the reason why people don't want to admit the show's problem is because Disney fucked it over MASSIVELY and it feels like punching down (at least to them). I think there's a very common mentality of "is it fair to criticize a show that never really got a chance to fully find its stride?"
But I also know this is just a massive problem with shows that have queer characters in general. There's just this prevalent attitude that if you have a problem with a piece of media that also happens to have queer characters, it means you're "ungrateful" or trying to insult it on purpose. Though personally, I think TOH fans are a lot better at handling and giving criticism.
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I used to be part of the TOH fandom but left after the finale - I felt it was very lacking and was a huge letdown for all the reasons you said. Patting itself on the back and lore erasure. But I'd like to ask about something different.
It's no secret Dana hates Disney. But saying it everywhere, the jabs at Disney in the actual show, the attitude of fans parroting her, especially when the news of the shortening was first out - it was legitimately intense. Disney the company has done bad things. But there was a period where I felt like a bad person for even remotely enjoying Disney movies and Disney-published books. I hated myself and felt I was 'betraying' the show, because I had been told Disney was the enemy and nothing more. Disney shortening the show was not a good decision. But it also provided fans with a convenient scapegoat to put every bit of blame on when the show had the tiniest flaw. Comics of beating up Mickey Mouse, 'Disney' being treated like a swear word, praising TOH as the holy grail of animation and saying Disney hated gay people - it made me feel I was a traitor to the show and to myself. (I'm still figuring out my sexuality, but I know I'm not straight.)
Do you think the Disney blame game was too much?
The toh fandom has this incredibly binary way of thinking; the show is the greatest thing in animation and if you don't agree then you're a bigot. Lumity is the best sapphic ship ever and if you don't think so then you're lesbophobic. Shipping non canon ships is tantamount to a war crime. And of course, any criticism of the show has the convenient Disney defense. Any and all flaws of the show is because Disney is evil for not letting the show reach its full potential.
Listen, getting your show cancelled or shortened sucks. But, unfortunately, it's not unique and writers need to prepare for that because it seems to be an occupational hazard in the entertainment industry. A lot of shows get cancelled without even having a conclusion (thank you Netflix for ending the Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance on a cliffhanger! even after the show won a got dang Emmy! 😤) so people should be thankful that at least the toh crew were allowed to finish the story.
I can give grace when analyzing a show's elements knowing what the writers had to deal with. But if they make decisions knowing ahead of time that they only have half a season and 3 specials left, and proceed to add more characters and plot lines that would require a longer season, then those are all fair game.
Dana knew of the Shortening around the production of Eda's Requiem, yet decided to add the Collector, because screw it! We like this little guy and want to see where it goes! They had Hunter get possessed and kill his best friend, yet barely any time is given to him to process that trauma. In the penultimate episode, Boscha, of all people, gets a mini sub plot despite not being relevant for a full season. Luz's angst arc gets 4. separate. resolutions.
None of this is Disney's fault. This all on the crew for not using their precious time wisely and tossing whatever they can to the wall to see what sticks.
So yeah, the Disney blame game is too much but it's also a blessing in disguise because now it's a convenient shield for whoever doesn't want to hear criticism about the show.
As for feeling guilty about liking Disney; listen, Disney has been foundational for literally millions of people for decades. Its presence and influence is seemingly inescapable. And the company has done some awful things in the name of corporate greed and profit.
But you should never feel guilty for liking something that brings you joy.
Remember that writers and artists are responsible for the shows you love. Many queer folks have seen themselves in Disney movies for a variety of reasons and there are many queer artists that have worked for Disney (hi Howard Ashman and Andreas Deja!)
So no, you're not a traitor for liking Disney.
The toh fandom has a very reactionary, us-vs-them attitude and it's incredibly toxic. So don't let the haters get you down!
I wish you well on your journey and hope you're in a better place.
Thank you for the ask!
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On relationships: what are your thoughts on Lumity? Do you think Amity's character after her redemption felt a bit more washed out?
Also for Amphibia: what do you think of the fandom trend to ship the three girls together?
First question: Lumity
Lumity is nice. It's good for what it is, and I know that a lot of people love it for being a central, unproblematic, canonical, sapphic ship in a mainstream cartoon, and it's really good at being that. And I like it--they're cute together, and their dynamic is fun. Sure, they're uncomplicated, but uncomplicated is okay.
As for Amity's character--yes, some of her more interesting personality did wash out with her green hair dye. Because TOH doesn't tend to let good characters have 'bad' flaws--that is, flaws that genuinely hurt other people for reasons other than 'i want to protect you' (and yes, there are exceptions to this), Amity's redemption meant that a lot of her rough edges disappeared, or were minimised. Much like every other member of her family, the episode where Amity was best and most perfectly written was Escaping Expulsion. Amity showed all her good qualities there--her strength, her resolve, her iron will, and her loyalty--but she also makes a big mistake, and not an easily excused one. When her mother expels her friends, Amity does exactly what pre-redemption Amity would have done--she lets her fear of her mother override her moral compass or her love for her friends, and it's not until Luz's life is on the line that Amity is able to stand up to her parents, and do the right thing. It would have been nice if as the show went on, she occasionally continued to slip into her old ways--perhaps if she responds too harshly to something, or acts overly haughty at times. But she's still a good character, she's just a bit...smooth.
Second Question:
I'm not going to tell people not to ship, and I hate getting involved in fandom politics. BUT.
You know the classic 'there is more to fandom than shipping' thing? I've never felt that more strongly in a fandom than Amphibia. Shipping is fun, and if you're a big Sashannarcy fan, I'm not going to be the one to say 'how could you ruin the fandom' or something. All I'm saying is that Amphibia is a beautiful, stunning, poignant story which does heaps of fleshing out of non-romantic relationships, and I think that a lot of dynamics and thematic elements in the story fall by the wayside in fanworks in lieu of a non-canon ship. But that said, ship and let ship is the policy of fanworks, y'all do y'all.
the one thing I will say is that the ship should be called Marshanne. it flows so much better than Sashannarcy
#ask answered#the owl house#very very light#toh critical#(like VERY light)#amity blight#amphibia#extremely miniscule#anti sashannarcy
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Fight me all you want but huntlow/lumity antis are the weakest links in the toh community,
HEAR ME OUT...
...unless you don't have ears idk block the haters
SKIP IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN SHIPS WARS IT'S HONESTLY EMBARRASSING I HAVE TO SAY THIS!!
All this slander is coming from the goldric/huntmira/lunter/guster/amiter shippers, yes that's a mouthful, and yes I'll be blocking you if you're a toxic shipper, if your not, good! except if you ship amiter, fuck off you lesbianphobic bitch, anyways back to my rant, also sorry if this comes out as insensitive, rude, or if I sound over dramatic I just really hate these types of people
If I had a dime for every toxic shipper I've encountered since I first came into the toh community...BITCH ID BE RICH CAUSE SOME OF Y'ALL ARE WILD ASF 😭🙏, this is based off of a rant I got below this post so yeah credits to anon it was very helpful pookie
Y'all toxic ass shippers will go FUCKING PARAGRAPH LENGTHS TO DEFEND YOUR SHITTY SHIPS, and this is targated twords lunter and goldric, again, if you're not toxic this ain't for you I don't mean to offend anyone, cause tell me why there is this account on Pinterest, I ain't afraid to say their name it's something like TheGoldenCoven, or some shit like that, BROS A LUNTER FAN ACCOUNT 💀, and a toxic one too, dw I got some proof
How the fuck do you normalize the TWO MAIN COUPLE OF A SERIES??? Hunter was never intentioned to date Luz and vice versa, this is a perfect example of toxic a lunter shipper, and not only are they toxic they're...LESBIANPHOBIC!! I know it was probably from 2021 and they've moved on buuuut they did post amiter art, and they're not even a nice person although having in their bio "I'm nice you if you're nice to me" or some bullshit idk
As for toxic goldric shipper accounts I haven't seen any Pinterest or Tumblr accounts so that's good! But majority of the shippers are the most insufferable human beings on earth, their only excuse for shipping them is "they want a mlm couple and they're the same age" noting against wanting a mlm couple it'd be super nice...buy may I remind you this is post early season two...HUNTERS NAME WASN'T EVEN CONFIRMED YET 😭🙏, And let alone having only two or three minutes of screen time makes the ship have an even worse reputation, and the shippers are just bitchy and biphobic, always complaining that Hunter should be canonically gay instead of literally anything else so he can be shipped with only Edric, and I know huntmira shippers exist but I've actually never had an interaction with one, hopefully they aren't too bad
Y'all will come out withe the stupidest excuses not to ship huntlow/lumity, also sorry I got off track 😭😭, for lumity, don't know how it exists, but it's either "it's abusive" or "it's toxic" brother ew 💀, name one way Luz or Amity have hurt each other and DO NOT say it's by how Luz always makes stuff mess even though it's literally apart of her personality or by how she didn't wanna tell her about the portal door in S2 or how she accidentally helped Philip/Belos, I'll wait 😊, and I see the point of how Amity's personality downgraded to only being Luz's gf but she still did have her family problems but I guess they just didn't wanna make it an episode, I mean we got Clouds on the horizon that counts ig?
And for huntlow I keep hearing the same shit "I-Its a crack ship, I-Its forced, t-they have no chemistry 🥺🥺🥺" yeah I can see your toxic ass shipping a 12 and 16 year old together don't think you're slick bitch, and just because huntlow was rushed doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, you don't know if Dana had intentions on it but because of the cancellation it was forced to be rush, and I'm sorry to y'all hearing the shortened s3 excuse but it's true since there's literally no other explanation, also don't come into the comments saying "B-But you don't know that!!🥺🥺" it's just speculation my brother in Christ 😭🙏, merely a theory put together with brain cells which almost everyone in this community doesn't have, another weird double standard is how everyone ships gustholomule and veesha even though there's very little evidence it'll be canon was supposed to be canon but since it's a more noticeable and popular ship no one bats an eye for some reasons even though huntlow is too a popular ship, but these are the more bigger ones so I'll more obscure like cameda or aladarius which where probably never meant to happen and totally fandom operated
Anyways that's all, I'll block haters/toxic shippers in the comments so don't think you'll get a reaction outta me with some half baked and barely thought through argument you found in a Reddit post
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I don't trust Ragatha
"Why not?"
Good question. Because I don't know.
Yeah, this is more of a gut feeling, if anything else. It's just that something about her and how the show writes her tells me that I should expect a big twist about her true self. In fact, Episode Four gave us some "Mask off" moments with her, showing us Ragatha unfiltered in how she thinks of the others and Gangle, someone who knew Ragatha longer, admitting that it's hard to tell when Ragatha's being genuine or not, perhaps hinting that she's not as nice as she appears.
Now, do I think she's going to be this big, twist antagonist that will make the lives of others a living hell? F[OOPS]k no. But I at least think we're going to get some big reveal at some point that shows us that Ragatha's kindness is more of a front than she puts on. But, I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong about this. Again, this is a gut feeling at most, and my gut once told me that Lumity would have kissed in "Reaching Out" of The Owl House (Which would have been right if that wasn't deleted from the episode!). And I'm actually hoping that I'm wrong. I like Ragatha, I like the cute fan art that fans make of her. I may not trust her, but I still like her.
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The Lumity Kiss is Bad
Which is really weird when the actual, physical kiss is pretty much textbook perfect. However, this isn't a quick kiss or a throwaway one. It's the BIG kiss in a romantic subplot. The second half of the resolution we got in Knock Knock Knocking with the confession and the show frames it that way. As such... The kiss is more than just the kiss and it's every element around the physical action that ruins it, making even the textbook nature of it somehow flawed.
Let's start with the positive though. Now I've actually said I don't like how the kiss is animated and I do kind of stick to that. If you go to the 57 mark of this clip of the kiss, you can literally watch as Amity's face slides back to being on model.
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And kind of like a lot of moments in the show with big budget animation, that's not a HUGE issue but it is deciding that frame rate and smoothness is king for good animation without considering how jarring it is to watch in the show and if it actually fits within the style of the show. I find TOH fights WAY more enjoyable to watch when isolated by themselves because of this because they aren't in an uncanny valley where they feel like a well produced fan animation than something official and I do still hold to that with the kiss itself. I just wish I could better describe why.
BUT! I said I had a positive to talk about and I do. For three seconds, the scene is just right. Luz says the date will be perfect before then Amity, looking at Luz, the person who the mere thought of was comforting her and who she's been worried about for a week, decides to go in and kiss her. Her hands are gentle as they take Luz's face and she leans in. Luz is shocked that this is happening but then quickly gives into the bliss and holds Amity's hand in her own. It is sweet, quick but incredibly impactful. It is a textbook example of how to do a kiss that one half of the pair didn't see coming and the couple are meant to be deeply in love. It's nothing new but doing the classic spot on is never a bad thing.
Those three seconds die the second Luz says, "Crikey," let alone the fact that it's in an Australian accent. And don't get me wrong: You do not have to make a kiss like this sappy. I Was A Teenage Exocolonist has a romance route with a very clinical, scientific person and when you two get together, she snarks at you if you ask what next. That I should know her well enough to know she has a logical decision deduced from what is correct for the situation.
"So are you going to kiss me or am I going to kiss you?"
Great. Amazing. Silly and not taking itself too seriously but above all else IN. CHARACTER.
I'm sorry to break it to you all but Luz is NOWHERE NEAR "Lol, random" enough for this. Hell, in both this scene and Looking Glass Ruins, the writers point out how Amity is driven to act on emotion and on what her brain pulls her towards more than Luz, especially on this topic. It's why Amity is ALWAYS the one to do the firsts in their relationship. Meanwhile, Luz's only times where she blurts out something random is "Snorses" which had a clear correlation to what was happening and "You damn rat!" which also was explicitly tied to the stimuli causing it.
What stimuli here makes her go "Crikey" and turn FUCKING AUSTRALIAN!? The only reasonable excuse I could even think of is to say she's a huge Crocodile Dundee fan but Luz was born theoretically somewhere around 2006, literally TWENTY YEARS after that movie came out and I don't feel like Camila would push something like that for her to watch or really fits in with most of what else Luz seems to enjoy.
Fucking BAZINGA would have been more in character because at least nerds still mock Big Bang Theory. Other options for a random word or reference would have been "Excelsior!" or "Wahoo!" as she jumps into the air like the hyperactive gremlin she's supposed to be.
Neither one would work though in general because the tone and framing of the scene isn't right for a joke, let alone this sort of joke. Part of what makes the kiss feel so justified in this moment is the setup... Though only on Amity's side. I'll get to the problems with Luz's setup for the kiss in a bit.
Amity has thought Luz might be dead for a week. She hasn't heard back from her, she's scared, distressed and strung out. She wants things to go back to simpler times like in Season 1 when things weren't so scary. She's emotional and is actively using the thought of Luz as a way to comfort herself. Then, out of nowhere, Luz comes in, promising romance, better times and safety, all while proving she herself is safe.
It is perfect setup in a story like this for the first kiss. Honestly, they could have gone one step farther and mentioned that they haven't even had a big kiss but they went with the missing out on the date element, which works just as well. It's nothing new but it's correct. It's good. However... It's also genuinely serious. Like this is effectively Amity laying out exactly why she likes Luz. The strength she gets from Luz. Why this relationship is important to her. It is great setup for an "I love you," or a first kiss.
It is a REALLY bad setup for a joke. However... as bad Luz's joke is... Amity's is actually worse.
"I can't believe I just did that!"
Yeah and I can't believe that in this moment that should show how far Luz and Amity have come as a couple, the strength and joy they've gained after being a couple for half a season, you're literally reacting the EXACT same way as you did when you kissed her on the cheek back in Looking Glass Ruins. It doesn't matter that you have nicknames now. That you two keep twirling each other about. Have had deep conversations about Luz's pain while Luz ignored yours. *eye twitch at Reaching Out* And it doesn't matter that in this moment, you have EVERY justification to be confident in this choice. To simply happy and overcome with emotion that your partner is simply ALIVE.
Her response should have been, "I'm so happy to see you," not literally going back an entire half a season for a cheap, repeat gag.
To be fair though, while this entire scene, from the moment it cuts to Amity talking to Emira and Edric, is obviously paying reverence to how big of a deal this is and trying to make the kiss be correct... The jokes are in keeping with how quite literally the rest of the episode treats Lumity. Remember, this episode starts with Luz claiming she'd like to pull a romantic rescue but deciding to opt out because despite having literally nothing to do with the plan, and likely being detrimental to how stealthy they need to be because fewer numbers are better here, she would rather be prepared to help Eda and King than actually break her girlfriend out from being grounded by the EC. This is despite, in Luz's own words, "You know me. I'll always choose the chaotic option." That... Isn't a good starting point.
Then the rescue is comically easy and Luz doesn't actually do any of it. It's all Gus, Willow and Hunter. Luz just gets to take the credit and get the big hero kiss, which this ABSOLUTELY IS. Amity was a damsel in distress for Luz to save, complete with a kiss for doing so. That's also without getting into how pathetically easy the save is. Like Willow doesn't even have to try to bury one dude and an abomaton ALIVE under ground. Frankly, I'm amazed that guard is still alive.
It's just a lot of stuff way too easy to be leading into what is the final payoff for your romantic subplot, let alone one that has taken up a THIRD of your story so far.
The rest of the episode isn't any better though. This should be an episode about Lumity. It starts with talking about Amity in trouble. Then it saves Amity and does the big, climactic kiss... But we haven't gotten Luz's side of the relationship yet, have we? We haven't gotten her speech like we did Amity's. We haven't gotten anything to show her deeper care for Amity and while Amity is talking about Luz's quirks and her kindness and the strength she gets from her, Knock Knock Knocking is really the closest we've gotten with "Awesome and pretty" which is vague and shallow. This is your chance to fix that.
There's even a perfect moment. Odalia threatens their relationship and says Luz isn't worthy. Have Luz agree... But then say it doesn't matter what her or Odalia think. That she is lucky to have someone as smart, dedicated, and passionate while having a sweet center that despite all her fears, anytime she's with Amity, she knows Amity is going to give her the chances she needs. Is going to understand what she's trying to say instead of looking at how weird she is and rejecting her. Take ten, twenty seconds to do that... While in the background, we can see Gus obviously thinking about something, glance at Luz, and then start working on a spell circle.
The shield comes down, get the dramatic reveal of Alador and then cut back to where Hunter is holding Amity's hand. Same effect as the show but allow Gus to make the plan of his own volition because he wants to protect his bro and this was the best he could think of. He thought Luz would be more capable of defending herself due to glyphs and that Belos was less likely to kill her than Hunter. Also, it was in a panic and the best he could think of.
INSTEAD, we get Luz ignoring Amity's problems with her parents for the THIRD FUCKING TIME and focusing on the white boy in the cast instead. In fact, I don't think Lumity talk to each other ONCE after the kiss scene. The focus is too much on the plot and Amity's angst and I could do an entire blog about how little Luz actually engages with Amity's character arc and plot elements. It makes it real rough analyzing old episodes for Amity's arc when you realize how much Amity jumps in her arc without almost any input from Luz on elements that are suddenly gone.
And this would be OKAY... But it makes the kiss feel like... Well, honestly like a gag. We're at a point in the show after all where very little of it is trying to be funny. Even Gus and King are being taken seriously now and Amity will be a joke for most of S3, especially in Thanks to Them. Even her standing up to her mother is lightly mocked by Alador sounding like he's just saying sweet lies in telling Amity that she was close to breaking the barrier. It's WEIRD the treatment of it when it has consumed so much time and the framing of the actual moment is so serious.
And I want to be clear: I am happy they kissed. I am not against this because it's two girls or anything like that. I'd criticize this no matter the gender, race, etc. of any element here because it is just flatly bad romance writing. The only parts that function are either cut off at the knees or the one part that has the characters too silent to actually harm the moment.
And I think the last thing any of us wanted for Lumity was for it to be treated like a joke.
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AU lore dump!
In this AU, grim walkers are kinda like a Alterhuman/wolfwalker/werewolf mix. After Hollow Mind ,Hunter runs off into the woods,(goes on all fours!) (edit: he trips like the idiot he is, and shifts then.) and shifts into his wolf form, (which I have dubbed Phantom, hence the name of the AU) and instead of going to hexside, he finds a cave where he hides out for a while (4/5 weeks), stealing food and blankets, and transforming the cave into his den
While this is happening luz is freaking out,due to no one having glimpsed hunter in weeks.And on top of that, there is a strange wolf( in this AU, Wild Canines are from the demon realm,so not that weird) haunting (see what I did there?) the streets, stealing food and other things. She things it looks familiar,but she cannot place her finger on in. Phantom becomes a celebrity, and befriends luz (I sort of call Phantom and Hunter to separate entities, even tho they’re the same person, System style) then Hunter builds up confidence to reappear, and starts making small appearances, like a ghost (Hahah. maybe one of them should be a bus disappearance thingy) and luz is less scared that he got caught. Finally, hunter appears on the owl houses door step, and gets melded with the owl fam. The time frame for this part of it is 1-2 months. To make it less suspicious that right when he vanished that phantom appeared, and vice versa, he sneaks out at night and makes appearances, and sometimes during the day. He lies that he “is just a fan” of phantom (kinda selfish bro)( to be extra sneaky, he draws phantom [he’s good at drawing] and fakes being a bad lier.) and keeps tabs on his image. Luz starts to get suspicious(“he says he is a fan of phantom, and phantom is a friendly boy, but Hunter never is to bet found when phantom is around and vice versa. Also, phantom appeared right after he went missing, and Hunter never talks about were he was/is during is absence. Also. Fangs, he is crepuscular, he is very defensive of his stuff/friends,his eyes glow, he has strange abilities , he is mostly carnivorous, his hair grows fast, also, they two look smiliar.they have to be the same person!”) and tries to prove her suspicions. This doesn’t go well.
Orrrrrrrr they (hexsquad- hunter) get kidnapped and Hunter saves them using his wolfie powers, but then has to explain why he has them. Only Luz knows till human realm. They are stuck there for a year.
Canon deviations
day of bs is in 10-11 months
Hexsquad is in HR for a year
Labyrinth runners is changed and later
Hunter has enhanced abilities after the first shift
Edge of the world is FAR later than canon
Wild Canines(coyotes, wolves, foxes,hyenas,exc) are from the BI
My HC of him being coy-wolf coping link is changed (wolf therian, both psychologically and spiritually)
Hunter lives with the owl fam after the first part.
Luz is otter-link
Amity is cat-hearted
Lumity is a4a (alterhuman 4 alterhuman)
Belos is not actively after the owl fam. Also he does not quite learn Hunter has unlocked his wolf form until abt a month or two before the day of unity
Luz still knows that hunter is a grimwalker, but doesn’t know what it is, and there isn’t anything really on them.(she also forgets Abt it cause she’s bad at remembering stuff){as we see in canon}
Hunter goes to hexside, but besides the EEs, no one knows that he was the gg. (IT RHYMES)(He takes the potion track[most fanfics],Beast-keeping[wolfyness] and bard[vocal mess of wolves]bump allows him to use flapjack as an aid.)
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Hunters style is alterhuman grunge .
Flapjack knew most of the previous Golden Guards. HE DOES NOT CUT HIS HAIR IT LOOKS DUMB. Luz and the hex squad are suffering from adrien agrest syndrome( means they are oblivious) hunter uses he/it/they pronouns.( “hunter here with he/it pronouns and a wish to he/it [hit] Belos”) when hunter has been in his witch form for too long,his chest starts to ache/hurt, and he can be annoyed easier. he has three different forms, witch( canon, but with fluffy hair that looks like a mix of his hair and the hair eda had when she first meet king, sharper and longer teeth, what could be classified as claws, a stronger that the “normal” of smell; sight; bite force, can jump higher, is supernaturally fast and agile ,at least by non-magically enhanced standards, especially high stamina and a alter human grudge style), semi witch ( wolf form teeth, kinda claws, harpy eda hair, wolf form ears and tail, extra sharp smell; eye-site; strong bite force and can jump really freaking high, and is fast,agile, and durable ) and wolf (literally a wolf hunter with enhanced wolf abilities) Hunter has more self-esteem than canon.He’s still kinda a bad boy.
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possible AU Of this AU where Hunter unlocked his wolf form at about 4-5 ish. Belos has used in as an Attack/guard dog. hunters wolf form has a cream collar with a gold emperors coven sigil as the tag, gold cuff thingys on his paws, sharpening his claws. Belos told him it was a curse, and gives him a tonic to “keep the wolf under control” (this is obviously a lie, this is a domestication potion which is used in feral animals, basically making hunter way more submissive, laid back[when applicable, it sometimes makes him far more aggressive] and more dog like than canon)two variations are possible : Luz knows, changing the plot drastically, and Luz is oblivious, having little to no effect on plot.
great huh!?
#toh#therian#the owl house#hunter toh#toh hunter#therian community#alterhuman#Toh au#the owl house au#PoBb au#aspen squeals#aspen barks#phantom posting
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Lumity Week Day 1: Azura Bookclub
CW for talks of death and sacrifice
Last week, the final book in the Good Witch Azura series was released. And frankly, Amity was rather anxious to get her hands on it. Luckily, when Luz visited last time, she was able to snag her a copy. She was filled to the brim with excitement, so much so that she couldn't help but take Luz by the face and kiss her over and over again. Today, she finally put the book down. Because today, they were going to talk about how it ended.
It was strange to think that the series would end at all, much less the way that it did. Amity, quite frankly, didn't know what to feel. She and Luz shared their love for the series when they were just fourteen. Amity herself has been reading them since she was eleven. And now they're both sixteen. The series that brought them closer together had been brought to a close. It was over, just like that.
Amity set her reading glasses down on the end table along with her book, and she rubbed at the corners of her eyes with her thumb and forefinger. She was just about to get up from her seat when she heard a knock at the door.
Weird, Amity thought, I wasn't expecting her until four. It was then that her gaze drifted over to the demon clock that hung on the wall in her room, which read: four-fifteen. Oh! Dear Titan!
"Psst," Luz hissed through the door, "sweet potato, it's me."
"Be there in a minute," Amity called back to her as she quickly set a table up in the middle of the room with a few chairs tucked away neatly underneath. She breathed deeply before turning to open the door for her.
"Hey."
"Que tal, hermosa," Luz greeted her girlfriend, kissing her on the cheek.
Amity flushed, "oh, I was just finishing up --"
"The book? Emira told me you were still reading it when I got here."
Amity rubbed at the back of her neck, her face growing hotter. "How's school going for you?" She deflected.
Luz pulled up one of the chairs Amity set up and sat down, folding her hands into one another and resting her chin. "It's been alright," she sighed, "it's definitely better than before I came to the Isles, but I still prefer it here, you know?"
"That’s not an excuse for you not to do your work, is it?" Amity said sternly, leaning her hand on one hip.
"No, absolutely not," Luz smiled at her, "I just like being here. I like being with you."
Amity nodded and pulled out the other chair to sit across from Luz. "I like you here too," she said softly, kissing her cheek, "now, do you want me to get any snacks or drinks for you, mi batata?"
This time Luz flushed, "Yes, please."
Once they prepared the snacks and some tea, Luz set her copy of the book down on the table. Her eyes gleamed with anticipation.
“Sooo,” she mused, “what did you think?”
Amity was caught off guard. She only just finished the book and barely had time to think. The first time Luz asked her this, she had recently finished the fifth book, Turn of the Tides, and was giving her back the copy she borrowed. Back then, she had so much on her mind: school, pressure from her mother, and her crush on Luz. All of it swam through her head that it made her practically dizzy.
In retrospect, Amity enjoyed the book. She especially enjoyed the new character that was introduced; Lucy’s sibling, Mica Malingale. Luz found a fan drawing of her with Mica, and she was so embarrassed that she immediately burned the drawing.
“Do you mind starting?” She asked, “I still need time to think.”
Luz made a mock bow in response, at least the best interpretation of one while sitting down. “It would be my absolute pleasure,” she said in her most exaggerated posh Erynian accent. Amity couldn’t help but laugh at how cute she was.
The young witch took a sip of her warm tea and watched lovingly as Luz went on about the story. What she liked, what she didn’t like, and what she thought was great in concept but needed better execution. And then she stopped suddenly. Luz had tears rolling down her cheeks.
“Amity,” Luz said meditatively, “have you heard about what happened when I faced Belos? What really happened?”
“Eda told me a few things,” Amity answered worriedly, “Why? What’s going on?”
“You know how Azura died?”
Amity paused. She knew exactly what Luz was saying. Reaching over to touch her hand, she spoke to her calmly.
“But she came back, didn’t she?” Amity said, “And even if she stayed dead, she sacrificed herself for Hecate. Azura always thought she was an awful person for falling for Menos’ tricks. But that’s what he does; he tricks people. He tricked all of Eryon. He used the Desolation to lie to and manipulate the people. But just because she fell for it doesn’t make her a bad person. It made her a victim. But Azura saw Menos for what he really was. He labeled everyone who defied him as a witch. She rose and called him out for his abuse and claimed the title of The Good Witch not just for her, but for everyone he mistreated.”
Amity rose out of her chair now, “And she never had to sacrifice herself to prove that she was good, even if she had no choice. All she had to do was be there for the people; for everyone that she came across on her adventures; Malingale, Eila, Aithlin, even Hecate,” tears started rolling down Amity’s cheeks, “Hecate, while she was a childhood friend, she became an enemy, another victim of Menos. But Azura made her see that she was wrong. And eventually, Hecate grew to love her.”
Amity now knelt before Luz and put her hands on her shoulders, “and with that love, she brought her back. Despite everything they’ve been through, she loved her. And you can’t take loved away.”
Luz wept into Amity’s shoulder. It was everything that Luz needed to hear. She never completely processed what happened back then. And when the hero that she looked up to suffered nearly the same fate, it brought everything back.
It brought back all the hardships and all the struggles she faced. All the mistakes that she made. But in the end, she had love, just like Azura.
Luz wiped the tears away from her eyes and withdrew her breath. Then she smiled at Amity, the Hecate to her Azura, her cotton candy goddess. She was so lucky to have someone like her by her side. Luz leaned in to kiss Amity, and she returned the favor. They stayed that way for a while until they eventually pulled away. Luz then started to laugh.
“What’s so funny?”
“So, I see you liked the book.”
Amity’s face grew hot, and joined in her girlfriend’s laughter, “You’re such a dork.”
“You know it.”
Amity leaned into Luz’s shoulder, kissing her cheek, “I love you.”
Luz’s smile softened as she rested her cheek against Amity’s head.
“I love you too.”
#LumityWeek2023#Day One#Azura Bookclub#the owl house#toh#toh lumity#fanfic#fanfiction#f1uffyturtle fanfic#lumity#the official name for this fic would be “The Final Book”#luz noceda#amity blight#hurt/comfort#hurt/comfort fluff
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I know a few people who dislike huntlow and say stuff like:"this ship is super rushed, hunter has to work on himself, he doesn't understand romance and it is the last thing he needs" but they ship huntric and lumity🥴like you dislike huntlow for being rushed and hunter not being able to understand romance but you ship hunter and edric who interacted only once 🤡 something tells me those are not the reasons why those people dislike this ship, but completely for different ones🫣 and they are afraid to admit. Again i don't have problem with people who dislike huntlow but i have problem with people who drag huntlow down meanwhile shipping edric and lumity. Again every person has a right to dislike or like a ship. And what is so interesting that the majority of people never brought these excuses for amity when they shipped so much lumity and attacked everybody who wasn't a fan of this ship. And also unlike amity hunter didn't have that much problems with morality, didn't harm intentionally willow and gus, even when he got them captured he still tried to fix mistake. He actually owned up to his mistakes and had to learn it the hard way. Meanwhile amity wasnt addressed for her awful behaviour and shifted the responsibility of her actions on to her parents. And she didnt even try to reconcile with willow. She suddenly became a "sofgtie" out of nowhere without getting called out and only around luz. I am sorry folks but this is not a proper redemption. People also dislike willow and gus for not being plot relevant when its clearly writers fault for not giving them episodes to shine, and it is not as infuriating as amity who got a lot of episodes dedicated to her but still ending as a "girlfriend" who doesnt do much. No offense to amity stans and they literally whine all the effing time like why people dont talk about amitys trauma, when it was the only thing discussed during s1-s2, as if all these talks and fanarts about amity wasnt enough. They always bring up amity literally all the time.
I agree and I’ve discussed this before. I recently haven’t said anything because I want the whole show to be over before rewatching it and having a retrospective to see if anything changes. I have talked about this before though.
I adore Huntlow/Winter and I love that they are still separate and unique characters while being together. I hate the stupid excuse that Hunter isn’t “ready for a relationship” because it makes no sense. A traumatized kid just found people who makes him feel seen, heard, and loved. He also got a crush on someone who ALSO experienced mistreatment and cares so much about him. I can see why Hunter would like Willow and vice versa. I CAN’T see how Luz would like Amity since she’s BEEN bullied and she SAW Amity bully Willow. I have no idea why Luz was all in Amity’s face.
The popular fanon ships are so frustrating because they’ll just ship Hunter w a yt person with the same logic he got with Willow for.
I haven’t seen any Willow and Gus hate but they were literally sidelined to make Amity look good because they know that she didn’t have a real redemption. It makes no sense that Amity got so much screentime just to keep reiterating herself as Luz’s gf but never have Willow and Gus be there for Luz to reiterate their friendship. Hell, even in s1 and Amity was barely there, the fans literally favored her and made so much fanart of her replacing Willow and Gus/ making them background support to lumity. It was literally just “tomato Amity” and “idiot Luz” fanart flooding my feeds. At least Huntlow art has character. Amity needs nothing else.
Then the show damn near goes out the way to have Lumity on one side and Emerald Trio on the other with sprinkles of Amillow interactions to be like “See? They’re all friends 😇”. It’s getting tired fr.
#long post#the owl house#toh#toh critical#toh criticism#toh opinion#hunter deamonne#gus porter#willow park#luz noceda#toh hunter#amity blight#huntlow#toh winter#lumity critical#anti lumity#ask#long ask#toh 2#toh 3
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I write about a character per day
Day 20: Viney (Finale)
Healer. Beastkeeper. Anarchist.
How many things I can say about a character who had her fair share of 2 episodes with 4 more in the background. Oh boy let's go.
Alright getting this out of the way, and the only time I do this because it's Viney. As my favourite character of the show and 2nd favourite of all time (behind a water witch), I want to headcanon so many things for Viney. She's aroace, because everyone is aroace until proven otherwise :P. My favourite ship to Viney is Luney, in a platonic way, that I would like it even more if I didn't know about Lumity too early. She's an engineer in both biology and chemistry. She opens a veterinarian clinic for mythical pets, while also studies medicine and other methods of healing.
Okay, I gotta admit I like Luney more because of Viney being too awesome and their first interaction were pretty cool. Viney has healing and beastkeeping, two of the most underrated coven of the show. Healing potential looked quite awesome, as she even used a shield made out of the coven sigil. As a diehard fan of Steven Universe, I loved that moment so much.
(yes this is the only writing post I will put images on, screw me)
Beastkeeping may have destroyed the class and got her in detention, but who cares, Puddles is the coolest friend a veterinarian can have. And it is so nice that she chose Healing with Beastkeeping, specifically to heal all the pets she got.
I'm going on a limb and say this. Viney is the perfect successor of Eda, maybe with less rebellious intent than her last generation. The tunnel she used? Eda used it before. The Troublemakers Wall? Eda is the Queen. Viney looks up to Eda, as the pioneer of anarchism in the school. Baby Anarchist Viney is so incredible and I love it.
Viney's outfit is also torn like Eda, in fact her uniform is actually more unique than any other students. Her shirt pin points out, unlike other students, her shirt was torn in a way no one does that. And of course the hook earring. My baby anarchist is so determined to rebel.
Side note: I can take a whole day just talking about her hook earring.
The hate between Viney and Jerbo really is incredibly funny tbh. She just decided to hate him. And when Jerbo joined the other time, she just saw all hell broke loose, gave him that death stare in the eyes. That's just awesome lol.
The First Day is her debut, and also her best episodes (so much injustice for my baby). The idea of using a griffin as an assistance is cool enough, but property damage and multi-track studying got her into trouble. Oh hey, just like Luz heh. One day in and Luz already was in detention with the troublemakers.
Having to live in the shadow for a while, with not many companies on her side, she developed a lot of skepticism. Which is why she was so mad at Luz when she saw Luz's friend coming, thinking Luz is above the troublemakers, or that interaction with Jerbo. But when Luz was in need for help, she and the students that the school deemed as troublemakers have saved the school, and forced Bump to change the law for multi-track studying. Eda might be the pioneer, but Viney and co are the revolutionists.
Her next appearance is in Hunting Palisman. No comments here, I just want to appreciate this moment. Very mystical manticore for a very mystical girl.
Any Sport in a Storm is the episode with her iconic "Now I'm only scarred emotionally". Despite having more screen time, she still doesn't have that much more lines, she was outshined by Hunter and Willow. She's now a member of Emerald Entrails, she got along well with the team, and her powers got stronger. Good for her, good for her.
And of course the group selfie.
Labyrinth Runners is when we see a bit more of her. And Puddles' second battle. Not as successful as the first, but it's precious enough for me.
The last episode she had a line in was For The Future. Again, very brief moments. Although she got a new drip with the scarf. It's a scarf, alright girl. A moment when my kin (Willow) met my favourite (Viney), it's so incredibly precious.
Her finale design is so cool. She got long hair, cool outfit, but the hook earring must stay. And she was helping in erasing the sigils.
Puddles say bye.
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Have you gotten into other series.since the owl house ended?
hey anon.
to be honest im all over the place, i really havent gone far from being still into toh- and mainly thats because im afraid of losing inspiration for writing toh fics if i dont keep some sort of grasp on it.
i have gotten and dabbled in other series but not really any that id want to write or read for. least not at this time. its like im consuming the media as it is and am not wanting to go deeper to create things for said media pieces.
recently- well.. not super recently i did watch arcane, and of course im really into scream, as well as both fight club and im sort of getting into mha.
however, i will say bloom into you ive taken a good interest in and while i havent read the manga fully yet- ive watched the anime like three times. i did start a fic that i didnt actually get far on but yeah.
really want to buy more of dorohedoro whenever possible too.
im just here idk. i hope i dont seem annoying or childish by still being in this fandom :(. i really just love the owl house, and growing up, it was really hard for me to find wlw representation that wasnt sexualized or like there was some sort of double standard of a male gaze with it. i kinda just found toh and have stuck by it. especially with the canon nonbinary they/them characters. lumity isnt a speculative ship either- we arent left in lesbian yearning. its an actual ship. for the first time in my fandom life i am able to experience a romantic relationship in a series that isnt purely derived from fanfiction and fan content. its real, and i love them. i love that theyre real and canon.
theres so much to think and talk about with the world too that leaves me to want to write about- especially BECAUSE its over. i can analyze canon as a whole and look at it like a salad bar of toppings for a fic.
i know its kind of childish, but i genuinely just love lumity. i love seeing them be happy. and im not gonna push myself if i dont feel up to parting with the series just yet. usually, my fandom eras last for a couple of years anyway. nothing just has roped me in just yet. i suppose when the fandom starts dying out, ill leave then, but it's pretty healthy still, and it's good. especially here on tumblr. very much so good people here.
i hope you have a good rest of your day. :)
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i don’t know about u but i relate to each and every one of the owl house characters so much. and they make me feel safe on a different level. and it’s not like id ever type a 15 page long essay about it what do you mea
thinking about when Amity stopped herself from watching Luz’s video without her permission despite being immensely worried. thinking about when she confronted Luz and made sure to communicate first and comforted her instead of accusing her of stuff and how Healing it was for me to watch that. thinking of Lumity’s enemies to lovers and how obsessed i was and how completed i felt. this ship meant so much to me no one will ever know. forever the kiss scene the animation the dialogue everything i will cry thinking about it Every Time
thinking about Willow and Gus’s friendship. thinking about them so hard. i personally relate to both Willow and Gus soooo strongly. Willow is me in so many aspects: the therapist friend, kind of underestimated, sort of the mom but also cradled as the child and Gus is just a silly guy as well as the smallest one in the friend group which i highly relate to. strangers tell me and my twin sister apart by me being smaller than her and my friends call me short and small on a daily basis. okay and them together is Crazy. i loved the way they met and Willow’s tactic to calm down ive been using for a few months now whenever i have a really bad day. and it genuinely helps so Fucking much so i will forever owe that to TOH. i think my dream will always be to have friends like the two of them
don’t Even fucking get me started on King and Eda and Hooty and Luz and the actual owl house. my home actually. they mean the absolute most to me out of the whole show. when they reunited in s3 i cried for a good hour. im shedding a tear writing this. oh my fucking god i don’t know what it is about them but their found family thing they have going on is insane. they will honestly forever mean more to me than the hexsquad. no words will explain how much like home they feel to me. on my worst days i imagine being there. oh MY GOSH OH MY GOD AND WHEN EDA SAID “alright, kid. listen to me. im going away, and i don't know if i can bounce back this time. watch over King, remember to feed Hooty. and Luz, thank you for being in my life”. top 10 hardest times i cried. I sobbed so hard my chest hurt.
ok next Hunter. to be honest i was never the biggest fan of him merely because of how over hyped he was by the fandom just because they all had crushes on him but he’s genuinely such a cool guy. he was such fucking good representation and idk but the way we got to watch him form relationships with everyone. it was beautiful. and i heavily relate to him despite him being a sort of grouchy dude and me being an overexcited puppy. he’s got this gifted kid burnout and obsession with validation vibe that is identical to mine and it means a lot to me to see my weirdest most annoying toxic traits seen in him
okay as you can tell im unhealthily attached to this show. these paragraphs are kind of silly but i don’t think anyone will Ever Ever understand no matter how many words i write . i remember starting the show in quarantine and being so obsessed with it and staying in bed all day. i had to hold in my smiles all the time it was exhausting. one time i tried to explain the show to my sister and i cried and couldn’t stop. it’s been a while since it’s ended but i still think about it on a weekly basis.
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The Owl House Effect
(SPOILERS AHEAD FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT WATCHED THE FINALE FULLY YET!)
The Owl House finale premiered on April 9, 2023 on Disney Channel and Disney Channel’s YouTube channel, officially bringing the beloved animation to a close. Titled “Watching and Dreaming”, the creators (and the characters) bid farewell to fans with a heartwarming ending. We all definitely sobbed at the end.
In the finale, we got answers to the Collector’s past, revealing that they’re just a kid who was sent down to the Boiling Isles by their brothers and befriended Titans, but once the race began dying, the Collector was then seen as an enemy, but it was all just a big misunderstanding. Luz, who reunites with Eda and King, helps the Collector understand how to be kind and make friends. Belos, who continued to posess Raine (who eventually broke out of their trance and got Belos out of them), tries to stop Belos from possessing a giant TITAN’S HEART, but it’s too late. Once Belos takes over the Titan, the Boiling Isles starts to become covered by him. Amity, Gus, Willow, Hunter, and Camila eventually get themselves out of their puppet trances and work to stop whatever Belos was doing to the Isles from spreading, and with Luz nearly dying and meeting the Titan-King’s dad-himself, she gets powerful magic flowing inside her, leading her to beat Belos for good. As years pass, the Boiling Isles has rebuilt itself, and before Luz heads off to the University of Wild Magic, everyone spends a good time together to celebrate Luz’s very late quinceañera.
Back in 2020, fans were introduced to the magical and haunting world of the Boiling Isles, following a young teenage Latina protagonist and human, Luz Noceda. Meeting Eda Clawthorne, the Owl Lady, and living in the Owl House with her, Luz learns many things along the journey-how to perform magic with glyphs, how to maintain her friendships, and discovering who she wants to truly be. The show was a success to many fans, as the characters were completely relatable and worthy of admiration.
When Season 3 was getting announced, fans were pissed to the bone when it was discovered that Season 3 was only going to be 3 episodes, cutting off so many details that could have been further explored if a whole season was done (giving a big side eye to you, Disney). The show’s creator, Dana Terrace, continued to let fans know that all their love is appreciated, and fans promoted the show as much as they could, making fanart, writing fanfics, and so much more.
As the years pass, many of the characters get new looks, but are still the same people. Vee got a nose ring, Willow cut her hair shorter, Eda grew her hair out again, Gus got a new hair look (and I love it!), and King got a bit taller. Since he’s a Titan, there’s a long way of growing for this little guy.
Also, Hunter has a new palisman, and it’s named Waffles! How adorable is that! I love how Willow and Hunter made a grave for Flapjack, *sobs harder*.
There are many theories that surrounded the show, and the number drastically increased when it came to the short Season 3. Fans began to think about the story surrounding Caleb Wittebane, Belo’s (Phillip’s) brother, and a witch named Evelyn. Fans believe that she was a Clawthorne like Eda and Lillith (and King, even though he is adopted), and there are clues that match every character’s design, as fans continue to try and connect the dots. We only know the story Masha had told the crew during “Thanks to Them”, but there was certainly more to be discovered. Regarding the theory that the entire show was just a dream Luz was having, we’re thankful that this was truly all real.
This was also a good ending for all Lumity and Huntlow shippers. We got to see Amity and Luz share a kiss, and another on the cheek towards the ending, and we love to see the representation. Hunter and Willow meet and hold hands, which implies that they are most likely together now (hopefully).
As a bisexual myself, I admired the representation this show gave to all the LGBTQ+ fans out there. When Luz came out to her mom, I was so proud of her. Many unfortunately do not have that much support that Camila gave Luz, but this show is there for LGBTQ+ fans to be welcome and appreciated.
Now, fans will continue to display The Owl House in their own ways on social media and everywhere else, letting the show live on. It’s crazy how the show is officially over, but it is never over in our hearts. Keep on rewatching it as many times as you want, and show others that The Owl House was worthy of it’s success!
#the owl house#owl house#owl house finale#toh#toh watching and dreaming#toh thanks to them#luz noceda#hunter noceda#toh hunter#willow park#gus porter#amity blight#eda clawthorne#eda the owl lady#king clawthorne#toh king#philip wittebane#belos wittebane#toh vee#toh waffles#lgbtq#lumity#huntlow#camila noceda#lilith clawthorne#toh season 3#evelyn clawthorne#caleb wittebane#the collector#toh the collector
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ok its been literally 15 minutes since the finale ended and im getting off the TOH tag.
I am SO DISAPPOINTED in a certain side of this fandom.
it took less than FIFTEEN MINUTES to see enough "lollllll lumity went canon and huntlow didn't, get WRECKED YOU STINKY STRAIGHTS LOL BURY UR GAYS UNO REVERSE LMAOOOOO HOW DOES IT FEEL NASTY ICKY BAD STRAIGHT SHIPPERS" posts to make me actually consider whether I'd rather the show have had a sad ending.
not bc of huntlow, i ship it but never put any hope or weight on it going canon. I'm not "anti-lumity" or whateverthefuck, I don't really think about ships that much in 99.9% of fandoms.
...yall are just extremely fucking
IMMATURE.
I'm queer. I understand how much pain we've dealt with even SOLELY in terms of media rep. I even understand the glee at the concept of "straightbaiting" actually being a thing that happened here.
I also understand the EXTREMELY JUSTIFIED concern and anger around some parts of the fandom seeming to abandon the BIPOC WLW main character/main ship in favor of the Sad Greasy White Boy Of The Week And His White Straight Girlfriend.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND why so many "fans" are taking this EXTREMELY POSITIVE, LITERALLY GROUNDBREAKING and immediately turning it against their fellow fans. All this amazing rep, characterization, EVERYTHING and you still find a way to be cruel to your fellow fans.
this isn't a contest.
Lumity is canon.
Huntlow is not.
Huntlow was not a focus of the finale.
I can guarantee you that after that finale, NOBODY was thinking about Huntlow until yall started being fucking mean about it.
YOU brought up the thing you claimed to want the fandom to stop focusing on, for the SINGULAR PURPOSE of enacting some sort of "revenge" on shippers that you projected a whoooole lot of Racism, Homophobia, and Evil onto, despite:
Bi Hunter, Transmasc Hunter, Transfemme Willow, and T4T Huntlow all being EXTREMELY popular hcs/themes in and out of shipping context
A fair chunk of the fandom seeing Willow as BIPOC/East Asian -coded
ALL of the masc presenting queers w parental and/or religious trauma who have spoken out about how seen they feel bc of Hunter
I'm not saying Hunter was a perfect character. He definitely wasn't the main character, or even close.
I'm saying that yall have demonized this part of the fandom SO MUCH that after THAT FINALE.
*THAT. FINALE.*
your FIRST INSTINCT was to ATTACK THEM
over the SHIP (I REPEAT MYSELF) THAT YOU SAID YOU WANTED PPL TO STOP TALKING ABOUT.
I was having a really fun, good, genuine amazing time freaking my shit over Titan!Luz, and Lumity, and Raeda, and King and The Collector and TITAN LUZ!!!!!
yknow. all the stuff the finale was actually about.
and now I'm thinking mainly of huntlow (or at least the discourse around it), angry, and extremely sad that my experience of this finale has been ruined
and that this fandom is the latest to fall into the trap of "blame other fans for actual systemic oppression, regardless of whether or not they are actually upholding it."
I don't know how to get it through your heads that a heavily T4T-headcanoned, likely biracial-coded ship that is CANONICALLY a healing narrative for trauma survivors
is not fucking reylo.
this Evil In Fandom you're angry at 1000% exists but it sure as fuck isn't here.
unless there's a Secret Second Huntlow Fandom That Is Evil And Racist And Hates Lumity that idk abt, this is just a group of sad queer kids sitting next to your own group of sad queer kids
and despite me seeing ZERO ACTUAL HUNTLOW COMMENTS ABOUT THE FINALE * AT ALL *
you, whatever side of the fandom is doing this (I honestly don't know who is making these posts) aren't proving, winning, fixing or righting anything
you're going over to another side of the fandom whose ship didnt go canon
and with ZERO PROVOKATION
you're making them feel like shit for it.
why???
WHY??????
yall "won". you won as much as you can possibly win here. everybody loves the finale. nobody is giving anything but overwhelming love, happy tears, joy and awe to "your" win.
but you still felt the need to make sure someone, somewhere, knew that they "lost".
sry im just so angry at this rn. i was having so much fun. what the fuck is this kind of behavior supposed to prove?
also btw to be clear this is NOT DIRECTED AT ALL OR MOST LUMITY SHIPPERS, LUZ STANS, ETC. ITS NOT EVEN DIRECTED AT "HUNTLOW-ANTIS" EXCEPT THE *SPECIFIC PEOPLE* WHO CHOSE TO USE THE FINALE TO BASH ON OTHERS.
AS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PEOPLE:
YOU SUCK!!!!!! Thanks for ruining this fantastic experience for me by being a piece of shit on main over some "shipper" crap im not even in.
#toh spoilers#the owl house spoilers#vent#rant#fandom wank#discourse#Literally What The Fuck#shit like this makes it so much easier for ACTUAL PEOPLE IN POWER to write off queer narratives and fanbases#theres also legit no point#nobody is attacking yall in the toh fandom ok????#i was having FUN#AND NOW I WANT TO CRY#NOT BC OF SHIPS#BUT BC PPL ARE BEING SO MEAN LITERALLY JUST TO BE MEAN#im blocking ship tags from now on methinkd#Grow. Up.#angry post#long post#longpost
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I was writing a longer vent piece about this but since it was taking way longer then I liked to make and I wasn’t happy with most of it, I’ll just try to be brief:
A lot of the reason I’m not as active is because of adult responsibilities and a lack of engagement, but another part of it is because of a bitterness that’s stuck with me since watching Any Sport. Not a hatred or disgust that ruins my enjoyment of the whole show, but a bitterness I can’t stop feeling.
On top of a bunch of glaring writing mistakes that make me think the entire episode was a first draft:
It reduced Skara from an intriguing side character with depth to any other minor background character, not at all explaining why one of Willow’s former bullies is now her friend and instead just not caring about it.
Hunter goes from knowing he’s on the wrong side but not thinking he can’t escape it to being a complete dolt who genuinely believes the Emperors Coven is this wonderful place to be, all while never explaining why anyone in the Hexsquad would trust him after Eclipse Lake.
And despite the episode seeming like it wants to be about Willow in the first half, and making her the adorable badass we all know she is, it nosedives directly into the Mariana’s Trench after Hunter’s reveal, with pretty much everything feeling completely out of character and only done because it needed to further Huntlow and Hunter’s development, essentially making her the trophy Hunter gets for being The Good Boy rather then a compelling and mutually beneficial ship like Lumity.
And yes, the show was screwed by Disney, I know that. But what’s frustrating is that, even in season 2B and beyond, the show is still so damn high quality, with episodes like Them’s The Breaks, Kid and Watching and Dreaming standing out as some of the best episodes of the series, while Reaching Out is probably amongst the most emotionally impactful episodes of any kids show in the past decade. Any Sport is the outlier here, an episode that’s so frustrating and poorly done, and with such frustrating consequences for the characters I liked after, that I can’t help but feel jaded towards the whole show.
But I don’t want to feel like that. I like being critical and analytical, but I didn’t get into TOH so I could rant about how bad it is. I don’t want to be a TOH Critical account, but often it seems like that’s what I talk about. And honestly, even when interacting with some other Skarlow fans, it feels like they’re less happy to talk about Skarlow as a ship and more bitter about Huntlow. And I’ve felt that way before. And I don’t want to feel that way again.
I want to rewatch the series sometime soon. Again, with adult responsibilities idk when I can, but hopefully soon. And I hope that doing that might remind, me of the stuff I loved for the show, enough to find time to write about it here again with all the love and admiration I had for it before Any Sport. Till then, I’ll be sure to answer questions when I can, and just want to thank everyone who interacts with my posts and my silly little ship at all.
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You Are My Sunshine The Owl House Lumity Fan Fic
Finally! After writing for a few years on and off, I've decided to post this! This is my first uploaded fan fic! Feel free to give constructive criticism! I hope you enjoy! Fluffy one-shot (maybe I'll expans it to have multiple chapters in the near future)! Our wittle gay babies!!! Lumity are/is relationship goals! I'm manifesting that everyone find someone like them! Consider it done for all of us! Have an awesome day! ❤️ xo
You Are My Sunshine (Fan Fic Title currently or first chapter for untitled Lumity fan fic series)
"And another kiss!" Amity said in a bubbly voice that she finds again after letting Luz in and changing her life. Amity was sat up in bed, while her sweetheart was still sleeping. It was dark but daylight was slowly peeking in through the windows of their bedroom. Amity placed a soft smooch on Luz's left cheek.
Luz, giggled, eyes still closed. Amity swore her heart just skipped a beat at the sound of Luz's adorable laugh. Heck, everything Luz was cute but this? This, and many other things still got her even after years of being together.
"Stop!"
"What? I can't peck my wife on the cheek? You want me to stop?" Amity questioned, voice dripping with mock offense.
"Is it time for the cheesy, playful banter again? I thought that was my thing." Luz asked cracking a grin so wide it stretched her entire 'cute wittle face' as Amity loved to call it.
"You know it, dork." Amity replied in a voice that was barely a whisper. "Besides, if you want the title, you'll have to earn it." she scoffed. Amity had left her perfectionism behind however she loved a challenge and was super competitive.
"But I am the Master Dork." Luz said groggily yet raising her fist in the air, eyes shut.
Amity gave a tinkly laugh. "Yes, but you're my Master Dork."
Luz heart hammered. Titan, she sounds so pretty!
"That I am!" Luz said, chest swelling with pride.
"I'll say, batata." Amity flirted.
"And you are my dork too, sweet potato!" Luz gushed.
Amity smiled softly, leaning in and kissing Luz's other cheek. Before Luz could say anything, Amity peppered her wife with more kisses. Luz grunted and Amity melted.
"Five more minutes, mi hermosa."
Amity's heart fluttered.
"Awwww, are you still sleepy, mi amor?"
"Si." Luz answered, not having opened her eyes.
"Can you wake up for me, please? I miss you."
"Awww, I miss you too. But, sorry, I'm too sleepy right now, mi princessa."
"Your princessa will then shower you with smooches." Amity did just that, kissing her more with Luz now returning the affection.
They continued for a while, giggling then laughing hysterically. Despite this, they kept cuddling even though Amity realized she hovered over Luz and blushed.
The kisses were small yet soft, tender, and deep each one with more feeling. They both wanted to convey without words how much they adored each other, affection pouring out.
The effect they had on one another, Luz reflected, was indescribable. Words could never do justice to it and she knew Amity felt the same way too. All was so calm. It was just the two of them. Luz reluctantly, pulled away gently - at the same time that Amity did.
Luz now fluttered her eyes open. Luz and Amity looked at each other - chocolate brown meeting sparkling gold - losing themselves or rather finding themselves in each other'.
"Good morning, mi luz."
"Good morning, amor de mi vida." Luz said breathlessly. Amity wasn't ready yet but she looked amazing. The way she greeted her made Luz so grateful to have Amity in her life, for her to be the first thing she sees and hears every day. Amity's eyes were the sparkliest melted gold.
"Did my kisses work?"
"What do you think?" Luz waggled her eyebrows.
Amity's ears reddened and flapped but she managed to chuckle and cleared her throat.
"Yes. Is that the only way to wake you?" she teased.
"I don't know. You'll have to work that out but your won't have trouble with it because my wife is stunning and a genius." she crowed.
This made Amity's face and ears crimson. Luz had to admit, she also felt flustered. They gazed at one another, becoming one with their eyes: the irises, every little speck. There was always something new to discover and they never got tired of it.
"How did I get so lucky?" Luz said so quietly anyone else would have missed it.
Amity reddened again. "You're the best thing that has ever happened to me!"
"You're gorgeous!" Luz held Amity's hands and kissed them.
"You're more breathtaking than anything I've ever seen." Amity said. Beaming with love, she kissed Luz's hands back.
Luz sighed, content. "My wife is always the best alarm clock."
Amity snickered.
"And your hands. I will never stop marveling at how small and soft they are." Gazing at Amity, she stated. "How they fit perfectly in mine.
"Okay! You win the title!" Amity laughed, blushing. Luz cheered. "Thank you! Thank you!" to a pretend crowd with Amity clapping.
Hermosa (beautiful)
Amor (love)
Princessa (princess)
Si (Yes)
amor de mi vida (love of my life)
luz (light)
I think these are the rough translations for the Spanish words, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm still learning. :D
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