#I don't support proshippers
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WHY DO PROSHIPPERS EXIST. LIKE BRO I JUST SAW SOMEONE MAKE HCS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC 💔
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meme aside, if you like to go into the tags of characters just to harass and attack people who actually like said character, you disgust me. there is something called the block button and filtering. there are anti tags made for a reason, holy shit. literally no one wants to hear that. they are trying to have a good afternoon and you're fucking it all up. some people find comfort in the characters, and when you openly decide to go out and scream at them for liking them, you're just raising the chances of them being afraid to come back to fandom. if you really want to talk about how bad you think a character is, make a damn post and ONLY tag it with the anti tags. yes, that will not stop pro character's from finding you, but it's much better than going after people i agree that people are entitled to say that they dislike a character just as much as someone is entitled to say they like a character. the only problem is when it's blown way out of proportion
#genuinely. im anti proshipper but i've filtered the proship tag and don't interact with anyone who supports it#its actually very easy. just click on their icon and press the block button#pro annabeth chase#annabeth chase pro#percy jackson#pjo hoo toa#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo series#hoo#pjo#frank zhang#hazel levesque#reyna avila ramirez arellano#piper mclean#jason grace#thalia grace#leo valdez#heroes of olympus#rrverse#heros of olympus#octavian#octavian pjo#percy jackson fandom#pjo headcanon#in all honesty i just think people like this are immature and just looking for a fight#ignore them it's better for you both (they dont get their ego stroked and you dont stress yourself out)
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About my little ROTTMNT borrower AU
For those who are interested in the rottmnt borrower AU story I'm working on (which I'm calling Rise Borrowers for simplicity's sake), you can see some more of it over on my Instagram (I go by plaidartist on there), including a comic featuring April first meeting Raph, Leo, and Donnie. :)
Story summary: The tmnt bros are borrowers who live with Splinter (who's still a rat except now he's the size of an actual rat) in the walls of April's apartment. April, Raph, Leo, and Donnie are in their 20s and Mikey is 17ish. April lives there alone (perhaps maybe with Casey Sr. and Sunita as roommates, but that wouldn't happen until after she befriends the bros). Splinter teaches the bros to avoid larger creatures like humans and yokai, and they accidentally shelter Mikey to the point he has no idea what a real human looks like face-to-face and assumes they're smaller than they really are. Mikey goes on a solo mission (maybe Raph lets him do it as a 17th bday present) and accidentally tangles himself in a rope he uses to climb up April's fridge. She finds him and saves him. The two slowly build a bond, but Mikey doesn't realize she's a human until 3ish months down the road when the older 3 bros meet her. They're all wary but slowly trust her, though Donnie takes the longest to come around for several reasons, one of which is because he doesn't want to admit he's grown romantic feelings for her. They eventually become a couple. When Casey Sr. comes into the picture, she and Raph fall in love, too.
Additional note (mostly for anyone who's curious about my views on Apritello, cuz I've seen some unnecessary drama in regard to that): Because the canonical relationship between April and the turtles is ambiguous, some hc them as siblings, and some hc them as just friends. Personally, I don't see them as siblings and I ship Apritello (if I suspected they were siblings--adopted, step, biological, etc.--I would not ship them), but I have no hate towards fans who see them as siblings.
#plaid rise borrowers#rottmnt#rottmnt au#I put the Additional note there for a couple of reasons#One reason is bc you might be like I was when I first watched Rise#I was confused why some fans were calling April big sister and thought I was missing smth cuz I couldn't see it#again no hate to those who see them as siblings#Another reason is bc I've seen online drama about Apritello and wanted to be clear I want no part in any drama#the drama I've seen often includes some fans of the siblings hc accusing Apritello shippers of being proshippers#maybe this is bc they assume Apritello shippers also see the characters as siblings?#I don't support proshipping and I don't know any Apritello shippers who are proshippers#maybe some are idk but none I know#also I'm still getting the hang of tumblr#so hopefully I'm doing tags right haha
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#I say this with no irony or spite:#One of the most baffling recurring experiences in three years of bsd fandom is people who keep following this blog with#“proship don't interact”. Or ss/kk blogs with “proship” listed in their dni.#I don't have anything against anti-proshippers. I think the debate is intellectually interesting.#I think fiction having a negative influence on reality is a valid concern to have.#But that said... How can you stand by that AND support ss/kk? Like in any form??????????#Because to me it can be either 1) They don't know what “proship” means#or 2) they think dismemberment and psychological torment and insults and repeated killing attempts are okay in a relationship#Which. They aren't. Girl if someone treats you like either Akutagawa and Atsushi treat each other dump them immediately. Seriously.#Never talk to them ever again. Even if it doesn't include the dismemberment part the rest is bad enough!#I don't know why I'm saying this.#The thought of someone at any point thinking ss/kk isn't a proship (and thus something acceptable in real life) is quite distressing for me#random rambles
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Send this ask to 3 other blogs: What’s the top 3 reasons you think the average tumblr user would block you?
anon you need to know i let out the ugliest laugh at this ask. let me just skim through the hate i've got in my askbox recently.
i'm vocal about being supportive of sex workers and former sex workers as a former sex worker myself.
i'm transmasc/non-binary and i write female!reader fics.
i read, reblog and support dark fic writers.
how's that? good enough to make a call out post?
#pfh answers#i'm not mad at you anon it's just VERY funny that you've asked me this#as a former sex worker apparently i'm contributing to misogyny and rape culture by vocally supporting sex workers#apparently if you're transmasc/non-binary you shouldn't write for any gender except your own#and finally because i reblog dark fics and enjoy them i'm morally bankrupt and a proshipper - whatever that means#i don't know what proship or antiship means and honestly i couldn't get a fresh wet fuck about it so don't tell me
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by definition, I am a proshipper.
I do not care what you do within fiction whatsoever, only how it bleeds into reality.
that being said? I would be caught dead before calling myself a proshipper like it's some key part of my existence.
#proshipper#op is a proshipper#have fun with your life#do things that interest you#let limitation fall away to reveal boundless interest & creativity#lest you live forever a shell of who you may be if you didn't restrict yourself from fiction because of moral qualms.#this is different from not supporting harry potter btw#don't interact with harry potter stuff#that's a completely different issue however#this is about having fun writing shit no matter the implications or qualms.#I now have the intense urge to write the most fucked up shit possible with the hands I possess!
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What's wrong with being neutral? Your post has a neutral DNI is why I'm asking.
Being neutral is just a middle ground that means they're not taking a stance against pro/comshippers. Which seems harmless, but if the topic at hand is people who support pedophilia, incest, abusive relationships, and more, then going 'eehhh' isn't really a good thing, at least in my opinion. I'm just not comfortable having people interact with me or my posts who would even vaguely consider giving people like proshippers a platform or interact with them in any way. They're a hard DNI for a reason.
#not a confession#🦷 mod#proship dni#dni proshitters#dni proship#fuck proshippers#fuck proshitters#dni comship#comship dni#anti darkship#yes it is necessary to add all these tags#when I say I don't want pro/comshippers interacting with me I mean it very seriously#people who think it's okay to hang around pedo/incest supporters can do that ig. it's their choice not mine#but I don't want anyone who would associate with people like that anywhere near me
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“it’s glorification not exploration” OKAY. PERFECT EXPLANATION OF MY OPINION ON IT TOO. IVE ALWAYS FELT LIKE I COULDNT PICK A “”SIDE”” BUT THATS HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT TOO. PROSHIPPERS ARE GROSS BECAUSE THEYRE TRYING TO MAKE IT FUN AND GOOD. WHEN THATS NOT WHAT IT IS AT ALL. idk sorry for the yelling just. i agree so much.
I'm sorry for making a little stink on my blog but it's my blog and I get to have opinions sometimes. And yeah, that's my general thoughts on it??? Sorry for the cut but now I gotta talk. Also probably just. Trigger/Content Warning in general
I think it becomes dangerous when proshippers make content without meaningfully engaging all aspects of the content or they actively just. Glorify it. The content itself isn't critically thought about and it shows and then it loses me. And again, like I spat about, I support dark fiction and themes and ideas!! Extreme violence and all it's forms do exist in the real world. But to fetishize that violence against people is like being spit on.
And I understand that trauma is a difficult thing to handle and it can play a role in creation/consumption of certain media but not everything is a healthy coping mechanism, nor are you freed from responsibility because of trauma.
I'm thinking I'm especially pissy about this bc I used to be friends with people who made proship content and celebrated it. I was friends with them before they started to do this but I just watched them devolve. I saw how they treated subject matter and joked about it and didn't care about who got exposed to it. They actively relished in the fact they were making things that were upsetting or triggering. And a lot of proshippers have this attitude and victim complex while also straight up just posting child or rape porn.
It's a thin line to walk and there's nuances to how to ethically and thoughtfully engage with dark/taboo stuff. I don't think people are bad people if they like murder in tv shows or how a relationship depicting abuse was written in a book. It's bad when you sit there and get off on someone else's traumas without giving it a second thought.
#Brucey Answers!#wow. sorry about this one. idk if i even made sense#tw proship mention#tw rape mention#tw csa mention#idk. im not anybody's boss. I'll usually just block and move on if it's gross#unless its anything relating to children then i hope you off yourself.#And yeah i guess its another reminder. proshippers or proship supporters!! don't interact. i actively hate you#i DON'T. hate people who like dark content and are normal about it. i also don't agree with censorship just bc things are uncomfy#THERES NUANCE. i also think the entire debate with antis vs proship is kind of fucking stupid#but its way easier to tell proshippers to fuck off rather than give them the benefit of the doubt#im a normal adult person who thinks rape and CSA and abuse is Bad and shouldn't be attractive to people
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Forget proshippers, people like you who equate real-life pedophilia abuse/CSA/CSEM to things people read and write is fucking disgusting. You are downplaying survivors' experiences by acting like drawings and stories are just as bad. If you want to help anybody at all, face the problem head-on and spread awareness about actual abuse instead of wasting energy that could be used to help IRL victims on fictional characters. People like you make me sick.
If the abuse in a story is used to instill emotions of pain/hurt in the audience (like in horror), I have no issue. But if it's done for sexual gratification (like in porn), I'm gonna say something about it if I see it. And I don't go actively searching for this stuff to begin with, I just came across it because I was 'following' two Pro Shippers art the time and didn't even realize it.
Pro Shippers are disgusting. It is just as morally wrong as actual pedophelia, because it can lead ACTUAL PEDOPHILES to harm children. And there was a case of a pedo drawing an actual child in a very sexual way (like actual CP of the poor kid), are you gonna defend them for doing that because it was 'just a drawing'? It was still a FUCKING KID, I bet pedos imagine they're doing it with a real kid when they see Pro Shippers supporting their disgusting fetishes.
Neither are people to me. They can both fucking die for all I care, better to get rid of them for good because that means kids will be no longer sexually harmed by these fuckers. Fictional or not, they are still KIDS.
And I DO talk about this stuff, just not on here. I post about it on my TikTok, where I can actually shine light on these things because people will fucking see it and do something about it. Again, I do not actively seek out this stuff (my already severely damaged mental health could not handle seeing it 24/7) but when I see it pop up I'll say my piece and go on with my day.
Don't like it? Then fucking block me. Because it sounds like you already want to.
#anti proshipper#YOU are the one downplaying the situation here#I don't care what anyone says about it either#THESE ARE STILL KIDS YOU SICK FUCKS#it is still so morally wrong#I will never support Pro Shippers#you can all kiss my ass
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"they're just pixels on a screen" when i see a picture of a cute puppy i do not think "oh cute pixels", i think "oh cute puppy"
those "pixels" are depictions of children being raped, they are depictions of siblings dating, they are depictions of serious fucking crimes portrayed positively.
stay away from kids, if you told someone who has never been in any fandom you liked fanfiction where kids are raped they would want to stay the fuck away from you
Is it really that hard for you to accept that there are people who aren't proshippers for the sake of porn? Because if you can't grasp that from me quite literally telling you last night that I am a sex repulsed ace, you are proving exactly what's wrong with the anti community; the assumption that fans can't consume fictional content for non-sexual reasons and/or believing that proshippers condone what they consume in fiction in real life.
Fiction is fantasy for a reason. So if you ship all of your ships sexually and purely for the sake of reading smut about them or seeing sexy pics of them, that is a you problem, not a me problem.
#ambers.ask#proship safe#paraphile safe#anti censorship#anti harassment#I also told you I that I fully support people engaging with content as they see fit#which means I respectfully support your right to block me if you think I'm dangerous. which I've already stated.#but here you are still harassing me for some reason.#like I've targeted *you* and not the other way around.#you're not protecting anyone but your own fragile ego because you're not getting the reaction you want from me.#you came to me on anon saying 'proshippers send death threats too!!' and I'm telling you if you blocked me right now#I'd fully support you and I'd never even think of you again because you're anonymous. lmao#you can't hate me nearly as much as I don't care because you're literally anonymous and I'm the one posting on my own blog.
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I am not going to name names, I am not going to put any one specific person on blast, nor should anyone else.
But PLEASE, TAG YOUR SHIP CONTENT PROPERLY!
What may be your OTP may make someone else very uncomfortable. You are fully within your right to post about that ship if you want to, I am not in any way trying to police the content other people choose to make on this site(within the boundaries of both the law and of Tumblr's community guidelines).
I only ask that you tag the ship so that the people who don't want to see said content can filter the tag and avoid it.
We are all here to have fun, so we should all be looking out for each other and properly tagging the content we make so that we don't have to resort to blocking each other.
Please and thank you.
#i also want to note that i am NOT a proshipper#proshippers are WAY too lenient in the types of content they encourage#i am not a proshipper OR an anti. BOTH of those groups fall into extremes. NEITHER of which i agree with or wish to support#hollow knight#this applies to every fandom of course but it was a post in this one that caused me to make this in the first place#I'm not going to be any more specific beyond that because I don't want people to start harrasing one another#that will get us nowhere#I just hope the person who made that post will see this and fix their mistake because I don't think they had any harmful intentions#they probably just wanted to share art of a ship they like and i can respect that. it would be hypocritical of me to say otherwise
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also I turned off anon because the other day someone called me close-minded for...idk, not liking incest or rape porn fanfiction, probably, and the ten seconds I took to block them was a waste of my time. but if you send a message just lmk and I can answer it privately
#this is the only series I've ever gotten mad anons for#anons mad that I don't act like the book is the epitome of gay literature....anons mad that I have 'boring' taste...#anons mad that I don't tolerate proshippers...man shut UP#wish they'd save me the time and just block me#and they look like jackasses too! what are they trying to accomplish?#I don't give a shit about the opinions of an anonymous stranger on the internet#and obviously they're wrong so it's not like im going to start supporting that shit just because they send me a meanie anon#cor.txt
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Why are people so mean to you? You are genuinely funny and doing any harm. You don't like some things, yes, what is the problem? Damm, is like they want to control what other people think. To all of them: get over it! People do actually think individually. Not everyone will be a variation of what YOU think is morally right.
Oh it's because I have some opinions that tumblr wants me dead for
#I've been labeled a proshipper by tumblr so I guess that's what I am.#In reality I'm just supportive of proshippers. I don't personally have any problematic ships but theres no reason to get mad at people who#Do
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I feel like I should add some things:
I understand that children have sexual feelings too, but that doesn't mean they need to be able to access every porn site. They will survive just fine without porn. They don't need it.
Helicopter parents are bad and overprotection is bad, but not all protection is overprotection. Children, generally, will seek out things that they know are bad, such as porn. If you don't stop them they are going to continue to seek out more bad things that could harm them mentally.
Yes, parents can be abusers too and use internet restriction against their child, I understand that. Obviously, it's bad, but people misusing a good thing in a bad way shouldn't mean people stop using the good thing. (Does that make sense?)
I had unrestricted internet access starting at age 3. I found cartoon gore (Happy Tree Friends!) at age 3, porn at age 7, then found real life gore and hardcore porn starting at age 8, some of which traumatized me. I spoke sexually with adults at age 8-12 too. These experiences caused me to develop my paraphilias (pedophilia and more) and hypersexuality. As much as I support paraphilias and people who have them, I don't want children to develop them! Not when everyone hates us and it's something that we're made to be ashamed of.
If my parents had monitored or restricted my internet, I wouldn't be a pedophile (which I'm sure many people would prefer ;3), I wouldn't be hypersexual, I wouldn't have been traumatized by gore and murder, etc.
Yes, children deserve freedom and they should be able to learn about "mature" things, like being taught about rape and sexual education so they can keep themselves safe and healthy, but do they need unrestricted internet access? No. They don't need it. They can have Wattpad, they don't need PornHub.
Basically, I support children having some internet freedom at certain ages, but children cannot be expected to protect themselves from danger on the internet. Danger doesn't just include predators, it also includes images and videos that will mentally harm them, whether they know it or not.
Maybe none of this makes sense because it's me rambling my thoughts but I hope someone understands my point here
I'm not responsible for children on the internet. I'm not responsible for children coming into adult spaces, children finding proship content, children with unsupervised internet access, misinformed children, children who don't yet know what sex is, or any other children.
It is YOUR job as a parent to make sure your kids are safe, NOT MINE. I do what I can, but ultimately it's you who needs to protect your kids.
#also i'm not gonna say that if you want children to have unsupervised/unrestricted internet access you're a predator or groomer#because i understand why people believe that and that it's not always for bad reasons#but do you believe predators just aren't going to take advantage of that?#do you believe that children will be able to always tell when someone is trying to hurt them?#do you believe children will be able to protect themselves on the internet? even if they're told how to?#children break rules on purpose even when they're made to protect them#i'm sorry children but i don't believe you can protect yourselves lol#and by children i mean like 12 and under (depending on maturity)#don't take any of this as me saying all minors are incapable of being intelligent#i think teenagers can generally understand what is bad and what not to do so i don't really think they need protection on the internet#this post was originally about proship communities and now i feel like it's turned into child protection and debating child freedom#also i wanna say by “proship content” i didn't really mean darkships i meant proship ideas like supporting all fiction#since i've seen antishippers complain about children finding proship communities and becoming proshippers#am i a hypocrite for being anti censorship but thinking children shouldn't have unrestricted internet access?#proship#paraphilia#pro fiction#long post#pro paraphilia#i honestly might delete this post
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I love finding moodboards and then not being able to reblog them because they're made by shit people
#feel like i've made this point before but like.#okay so I was going through the claypollo tag right and someone made a moodboard for them through a request#and I was like#“oh that's so cool I'm gonna reblog it”#and then I fucking scrolled down and there was this huge image that was like#“HEY I'M A PROSHIPPER THIS IS FOR PROSHIPPERS LOVE YOU GUYS”#like.#okay bro#claypollo you don't deserve people like this being. these people. who make this cool shit but support bad things#//#eteled's randomized thoughts
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im picking up some followers recently from both this post and the recent Zodiac illustration so uh
hi! call me lapis or alice, idr care which. for now i mostly rb shitposts, Actual Posts that i like, and am (slowly) trying to be more consistent at Doing Art
speaking of art. as said in my description, i like problematic shit. there isn't much on here for now, so i didn't think it too important to draw attention to until now. but esp as i keep going with drawing (among other things) that's gonna be changing. starting with a link to my carrd, both here and in the sidebar as fair warning for the kind of shit i'm into.
now. i bring this up becaus i'm 👁️👁️ at y'all, and some of you (you know who you are) seem to have followed without knowing what you're getting yourself into. so uh. yeah you might want to either keep that in mind or block me now and save yourself the heartbreak for when i start drawing/posting a bunch of incest and other problematic shit. properly tagged of course, but still. like, i have a fucking felicia x flora pic in the works (might scrap it and start over on it, i'm not vibing with how it's turning out atm), and a bunch of other stuff planned. spare yourself the shock when i inevitably post that kind of shit.
yeah idk i'm just rambling at this point. the point of this post is 1) y'all need some Awareness for how i am, and 2) please curate your online experience and remove me from it if necessary
#i literally have 'i like problematic shit' in my blog description#i don't know how to put this in plainer words tbh#i literally got someone following me whose DNI includes 'proshippers' and my friend.#i do not think you went through enough of my post history before clicking follow.#i also literally have Mahiro from Onimai as my icon lmao#but yeah for real tho absolutely no shame if you see anything here and are like#actually i'm leaving#you gotta make your online space comfortable for yourself and i support that 100%#(this does not mean harassing people for creating media you find gross seriously what the fuck)
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