#I also love JL John Stewart so

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(Person running the superfamilyweek here, I'm so glad you are enjoying my ask game! I love your art ❤️)

🐕, 👽and ✨️?

Oh, awesome! Thanks so much for putting it together, the questions are great! Having a lot of fun answering them. :)

Speaking of!

✨ : What was the first superfam-related media you consumed?

A literal and figurative square (affectionate)

👽 : Favourite villain

Answered!

Don't have art prepared for the third one yet, hopefully I can get to it later!

[comradekarin]

Never shutting up about the flash and gl dynamic I’m seeing (and will continue to see as I watch) in jl/jlu. It’s the annoying gen z younger brother/perpetually tired and serious older brother dynamic y’all. It’s gl thinking wally is annoying and unserious and immature but he’s also regularly amused and indulging in wally and all of his wallyism. It’s gl wanting to dump wally somewhere in a desert but would also be sad if he left for like more than 48 hours. It’s gl wanting to bash his skull in by the sheer brilliance and stupidity wally exemplifies almost simultaneously (john watching wally deconstruct and reassemble alien technology for funsies !! vs watching wally eat twenty hot dogs in thirty seconds bc hawkgirl said he couldn’t). It’s gl being embarrassed by flash but also finding him super funny ,, but it’s even funnier to pretend he doesn’t because then you get your cringe best friend/little brother that’s either on child genius or dumber than a brick wall defending you from getting a death penalty sentence at a public intergalactic space trial where you are being accused of abusing authority and executing a mass genocide. And then y’all go to a baseball game that same day.

[wonderjanga]

JL meets C.C.

So, the Justice League goes back in time to 1957 because some villain, let’s say Lex Luthor travelled to back then too for whatever reason. So now they have to stop him. Cue shenanigans and then while they’re trying to find Lex, John (I think this is my first post with John Stewart as GL) sees a newspaper that has C.C. and Marilyn on it. The newspaper talks about an Incan artifact they found. As they have literally nowhere to go, they go to see if C.C. can help them as they could use the extra firepower. (They think he’s Marvel and also literally everyone is against them, Lex turned the government against them by calling them foreign invaders. Remember this is both less than 15 years after WW2, and this is also two years into Vietnam.) C.C. would get dragged along because Lex thinks he’s Marvel so he’d also get shot at and all that. Here’s some interactions I think would happen:

Batman: *Takes off cowl because there’s no way Marvel should know him, and future Marvel already knows his identity*

C.C.: *stares at Bruce for a bit and thinks he’s Thomas Wayne* “Hey… you’re Patrick’s boy, right? Why’re you running around in a bat costume? Also how did you age thirty years in the two months since I last saw you?”

(Let’s say this is the same universe as the Great Grandpa Wayne and C.C. post)

Batman: *Gets flashbacks*

or

*Under heavy fire from robots because Lex teamed up with the government to mass produce robots for the war effort, money and so he could kill them. C.C., Flash, and GL are all kinda laying on the floor while bullets rain above them*

C.C.: (By the way, all of them are yelling over the sound of the bullets, cause bullets are really loud) “Can we wrap this up? I want to get back to my wife.”

Flash: “You have a wife?!” *completely shocked and betrayed one of his best buddies didn’t tell him this*

C.C.: *grabs some stuff from around them and starts making something* “Yeah.” *pauses his making his thing and sighs dreamily* “Marilyn.” (Bro really loves his wife) *goes back to making whatever he’s making*

GL: “What’re making?”

C.C.: “What?”

(Again, they’re yelling over a bunch of bullets)

GL: “What are you making?”

C.C.: “Oh! A shrapnel grenade!” *Finishes and throws it out of one of the many holes made by the bullets*

*loud explosion, guns stop. The three lay on their stomachs on the ground in silence*

GL: “Why do you know how to make that?”

C.C.: “I wasn’t able to dodge the draft.”

or

C.C.: “You’re an Atlantean?” *Slowly looks over to Arthur* “Tell me everything.” *pulls out pocket notebook that’s decorated with stickers, courtesy of a seven year old Mary*

Aquaman: *Happy to share anything about his culture and people* “I can tell you anything but its location.”

C.C.: “Fine by me! I just want to know everything.” *suddenly gets super intense*

*League looks at each other cause this is a rare time Marvel is actually actually serious*

[romancomicsblog]

Who should play Hal Jordan in the DCU's Lanterns?

With the upcoming DCU's Superman introducing Guy Gardner, it was only a matter of time until we got more Green Lantern.

Variety has reported that "Lanterns" is officially moving forward at HBO, with the characters of Hal Jordan and John Stewart taking center stage in the eight episode miniseries.

The synopsis reads, "new recruit John Stewart and Lantern legend Hal Jordan are two intergalactic cops drawn into a dark, earth-based mystery as they investigate a murder in the American heartland.”

This synopsis doesn't tell us much, but does hint at a few things. It is assumed Hal will be the older, secondary character to Stewart's, playing a more mentor role as an established hero. This leads me to believe Jordan won't be the main Green Lantern in the Justice League, and instead will play more of a background character, such as Michael Douglas in Ant-Man, although maybe not that old.

Although I'm a fan of Jordan, I think this is a smart move. John being our main Lantern is something fans of JL and JLU cartoons have been itching for. Plus it can give this show some good distance from the awful film where Hal Jordan is the protagonist.

Even if he isn't the main character, the casting of Hal Jordan is an important one. This will not only be the secondary protagonist of the show, but one of the DCU's legendary staple heroes. Whether he turn to evil, stay around as a hero or die, this character needs to be casted appropriately. So let's look into it and ask the question, who should play Hal Jordan?

Before we do that, we need to answer some questions:

Characteristics: What makes a good Hal jordan?

To me, Hal Jordan has a very specific mix of asshole, confidence and charm that makes us want to route for him. He sucks, but we love him anyway. Very few actors have this charisma, which makes him a very hard character to cast right.

Even an actor with these attributes if leaning into any of these too hard can feel wrong. Case and point: Ryan Reynolds.

I often think of Chris Pine's Captain Kirk from the Star Trek films as a perfect young Hal Jordan.

However this is a Hal Jordan who has been through it, knows what the job is and has wisdom to show for it. So we're adding that new layer in, not just cocky and confident, but wise and maybe even kinder.

Fancasts worth noting:

There are a few people I wanted to bring up who have frequently been fancast as Green Lantern who I think may be good but probably shouldn't. The first big one is the biggest short guy in Hollywood, Tom Cruise.

Now do I think he has the stuff? Absolutely. I also think he's a bit too big of a name that he may overshadow the performance. Plus he's a tad older than I would like and I don't see him consistently coming back to this franchise.

Next we got the Rookie Nathan Fillion. He has been a long time first choice for Hal Jordan, even voicing him in some animated films. He's in the age range, and I love him, but he's Guy Gardner, so he can't unfortunately.

Finally, a few names that have also come up are Patrick Schwarzenegger, Glenn Powell and Jake Gyllenhaal. While I think these three are incredible actors, the first two are a bit too young now for the role, and Gyllenhaal has played a green mentor to a hero already recently, so I don't think it's very interesting.

But seriously watch out for Patrick, after the Boys spin-off Gen-V, I can definitely see him playing a great hero or villain role. He would've made a great young Hal Jordan.

Other Stipulations

We want an actor who can make the fantastical feel real and grounded. It needs to be someone fun to play off of Stewart's serious military sternness.

I'm looking for actor around 50. He needs to feel old enough to be wise and experienced but young and spry enough to be a serious threat.

This is HBO, so we need a name. Not someone who is gonna outshine our lead but someone with some star power.

Green Lantern's must be fearless, so there needs to be the energy of someone who can hold their own.

As usual I'm looking for someone not already known for being in a superhero role. So actors like Jake Gyllenhaal or Chris Evans are off the table.

3. Edward Norton

This may be the biggest name in my top 3.

Although he has had a brief stint as the Hulk, Norton I think is much better suited to play this green hero.

Norton has a great voice for an older Hal, calm and steady, with enough charm and weariness to feel like he's seen somethings. Norton is also very funny. He knows how to play heroes, villains, and anything in between. I can see his Jordan turning, or sacrificing himself heroically.

My main concerns are his name being too big, and more importantly, his tendency to take over projects creatively. If this was already an established universe, I'd let it slide. But, we need to think of team players.

2. Jason Sudeikis

If I had to go with a safe pick all around, Sudeikis is kind of made for the role.

Few people have that asshole energy like Sudeikis in his past comedy work that feels so inherently Jordan. He's funny, he can shoot the shit, but at the end of the day, he's still the protagonist that you love.

What really gives him the edge over the others is his stint as Ted Lasso. The wisdom and kindness I'm looking for in a mentor Green Lantern. Not to mention he can lead a show so popular, he'd be a big get for DC.

My main concern is, does he feel like he can hold his own? Does he feel as fearless as a Green Lantern should be?

I don't think so. I'm not saying he can't get there or he wouldn't be great, but he just misses out on this one.

1. Timothy Olyphant

I nearly made him my second pick, but when writing this, I convinced myself he was number one.

Timothy Olyphant was, fun fact, actually another choice to be 2008's Iron Man. He's got charisma to boot, charm, I mean, look at him!

Tell me that's not him in the photo!

Known for roles in Justified, Fargo, and The Mandalorian, Olyphant has the perfect presence as a Green Lantern. He looks older and wise but full of life and fight in him. He looks like the best of the Norton and Sudeikis, both fearless, wise and kind.

Olyphant also has an energy that feels right at home in a mystery and in space. He's been in crime stories like Fargo and space stories like the Mandalorian, and has been everything Hal needs: a leading man, a U.S. Marshall, a Space Cop, and a ladies man.

If we wanna start the DCU right, Olyphant is my Hal Jordan. Plain and simple.

Thank you so much for reading! Please consider following, and check out my socials and other sites here! And let me know: Who do you want to play Hal Jordan in the DCU?

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Justice League Fancast

Ok besties now that David Corenswet has been cast as Superman it’s time to start manifesting the other Justice League members. I’m so excited for David! I think he can play into the warmth, determination, and confidence that Superman shows as well as the more himbo aspects of the character. I love Superman having this innocent himbo energy to him that has people totally convinced he’s an idiot. In the Superman animated series the only way Clark defeated this villain was by allowing him to think Clark was an idiot. Superman is one of the most powerful heroes in DC, but seeing him best his opponents through kindness or his own intelligence is wonderful. Plus David is a Jewish actor, which is exciting because Superman’s creators were both Jewish and drew inspiration from their experiences as Jewish men in a time when Nazis were on the rise globally. Superman was created in 1938 and in 1939 there was a massive Nazi rally at Madison Square with 20 thousand people attending. Though it was a rally in support of Hitler and fascism, people called it the “Pro American Rally.” During this time people did need hope. Superman originally saved the people from the violent cops and women from their abusive husbands and people from the corrupt banks. Superman was someone who would do good simply because it was the right thing to do and that gave people hope. This love of people is an aspect of Superman which is super important. Sorry for the tangent…

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Anyways, onto fancasting the best boy ever… Flash!! Though both Kyle Allen and Mike Faist are dancers, Kyle Allen has been training in acrobatics from a young age. In The In Between Kyle captures a awkward and kind energy that I think would really work for Barry. I would also like for Barry to be the youngest member of the JL. I want a Barry that is late to everything because he just can’t help but stop to help everyone on the way to places. I want this more quiet “actions speak louder than words” kind of Flash. Here are some comic quotes to show what I’d want from Barry:

“Hal Jordan- AKA Green Lantern- was uncle Barry’s best friend. They had a lot in common. They were both noble… brave and hopelessly tragically unhip” -Wally West

“Bruce was the only person who would listen to me ramble about evidence techniques and crime scene investigations. I’m still in awe of how his mind works.” -Barry. I love that Barry rambles about his interests

“Mom, if it was me I’d stop and help.” -Barry

“He might be quiet or distant or awkward, but he’s never mean” -Bart Allen

Either Kyle Allen(28) or Mike Faist(31) as Barry Allen

John Boyega has range. In Star Wars he plays this energetic character who has no idea what he’s doing and in the Woman King he plays a serious king who commands attention. I think he can play John Stewart as this stoic person who has set morals and will stand his ground. I also think that Boyega can also pull off John Stewart’s dry sense of humor. John Stewart was one of the first black superheroes, so in his comics he is outspoken against racism and doesn’t put up with anyone’s bs. I think it’s also important to note that he refused to hide his face.

There’s this comic panel where he and Hal run into this racist politician and have a bit of a kerfuffle. John “accidentally” gets black gunk on his face and says, “…haven’t I seen you picking cotton someplace?” Hal then reprimands him for being rude and John is quick to defend himself. He then says, “so I missed my aim with the power beam, and the senator got a little blackened. What’s to worry about? I’ve been dark all my life and I’m surviving!” When Hal says he doesn’t believe that he missed John responds, “okay, I didn’t! Listen, whitey, that windbag wants to be president! He’s a racist… and he figures on climbing to the White House in the backs of my people.”

Likewise, Boyega has been open about the racial discrimination he received from Disney and fans when playing Finn in Star Wars. During he spoke out during many BLM protests and has been open in interviews as well. He’s said: “I feel like, especially as celebrities, we have to talk through this filter of professionalism and emotional intelligence. Sometimes you just need to be mad. You need to lay down what it is that’s on your mind. Sometimes you don’t have enough time to play the game.”

Here are some quotes that represent John Stewart:

“John Stewart was patient. Meticulous. Makes a plan and waits until the best possible moment to strike. His will is all about restraint. I don’t get that guy at all.” -Hal

“We have too much power to not be (held accountable)” -John

I also love this interaction with his eventual best friend, Guy. Where John is building a bridge out of toothpicks and Guy says to him: "Do you have any idea what it costs me to ship toothpick to OA?" "A lot, huh?"- John "Nah, I know a guy who knows a guy."- Guy "with the food you serve in this place you should probably use switchblades."- John "Nobody uses the picks for their teeth-- they're for keeping the club sandwiches together." -Guy "Right, what's a good sandwich without a splinter?" "Cool... sometimes I forget you like to build things more than you like to blow things up." -Guy "That's me, a walking contradiction."-John

John Boyega(31) as John Stewart

I absolutely love Jaime Alexander(39) or Elodie Yung(42) for the the part, but Diana is basically an eternal being, so I think they should go for a younger actress. Anya Charlotra has done the whole fantasy thing with the Witcher and is going to be in an upcoming action series called Army of the Dead: Lost Vegas. I think that she is someone who could capture Diana’s wisdom well. She is someone who can command attention in a room. I would want Diana to have been with people since the 40s that gives her a distinct perspective from the rest of the Justice League. She has seen history repeat itself time and time again and has had people close to her age and die.

Diana Prince quotes:

A little girl she meets says she wants to be a hero and is surprised when Diana doesn't tell her that she is too young to be a hero. Diana responds with: "Heroism is not a function of calendar, sister. It's your life to live."

After the little girl vows to protect innocent people Diana says, "then I says this, princess bouquet. It is not for me to say how one life serves others. I place my trust in your heart. And your wisdom."

"Don't kill, if you can wound. Don't wound, if you can subdue. Don't subdue, if you can pacify. And don't raise your hand at all, until you've first extended it." -Diana

"I can lead the way, but I can't make anyone follow. Friends, rivals... I owe them all a great debt. I wouldn't be who I am today without all of them." -Diana

Diana to Cathy who's using magic she shouldn't: "Outside of Themyscira shores, this may be my favorite place on earth. Nature's magic.. something I only stopped to notice when I'd been stripped of my powers and lived as a mortal."- Diana "Damn it, Di. I'm kind of past the 'life is beautiful' speech here." -Cathy "I only want you to see what I see. One of the things I learned during my time as a mortal is that time is commerce. Hours can be spent, or hours can be burnt. That pendant's spell gives you the fatal gift- time. I question the gift's value when you're confined within its walls, unable to be a part of the world whose wonders you still crave." -Diana "I just want to live, Diana."-Cathy "Then don't cling to a tomb." -Diana

Diana to Poison Ivy: "You think you can hold me? I am Diana. Daughter of the Amazonia. You cannot hold me. I do not want violence, but I can crush your face if this attack continues."

Diana encouraging Donna: "It's always been like that , huh? Everything seems to work out when you're around. Meanwhile I work twice as hard with half the results..." -Donna "Donna... your work has never gone unnoticed. When I look at you, I see one of the most capable women I have ever known. through you... I see the future." -Diana "it means a lot to hear you say that." -Donna "It's the truth. You'll always be a beacon." -Diana

Interaction between Diana and Nubia: "It's a comfort to know we all still have the ability to grow." -Nubia "Sometimes change is the only constant." -Diana

Diana encouraging Jessica Cruz: "thank you. For that, and for training us today."-Jessica "Training you? I was training with you. Steel sharpens steel. You were worthy opponents."-Diana

Bonus: Diana about Bruce: "I think standing in the darkest part of the room doesn't make you cool."

Bonus #2: "We should have brought a psychologist."- Batman while in J'onn J'onnz mind "We'd have him start with you, Batman."- Diana

Anya Charlotra(26) as Diana Prince

Seasoned Batman for the win, so that we can already have nightwing and the teen titans. Karl Urban has some roles that are reminiscent of Batman, but he doesn’t play one-note stoic characters. There’s so much depth to his characters-something that I think Batman needs. After the Supernatural meme where we all get our news from, I didn’t get the Jensen hype. But after seeing him in the Boys and Under the Redhood I get it. And he just really loves Red Hood and Batman. But at the end of the day I would want someone who understands Batman the way that Kevin Conroy did.

My favorite Batman moments are when he comforts others. I love the episode in Justice League Unlimited when Amanda Waller says that Batman’s greatest strength is his compassion. Bruce is bad at communicating and hard to get to know, but he has this determination to never let anyone go through what he went through. His devotion to the mission and his set ideological views can sometimes push people away, but those that get to know him do end up really loving him. His family and close friends like Clark and Diana poke fun at him, while showing him love. Dick Grayson and him, though they have had conflicts and misunderstandings they both are quick to defend one another and eventually reconcile. Dick and Clark are both people who come to understand Bruce and influence him to make changes. Hal Jordan could not be more different from him and yet they still developed a strong friendship as well.

I love how when he went up against Babydoll and she began sobbing he simply went up to her and placed his hand on her head.

And when Mr. Freeze escaped prison and makes it snow in Gotham. Batman finds him at his wife’s grave and just listens to what he has to say. He gives him a moment and then takes him back to prison.

In the comics he sits and holds the hand of the man who murdered his parents in his last moments, so that he wouldn’t be alone. That act to me is the most impactful. His parents death influences every decision he makes and yet he still chose compassion when confronted with his parents killer.

Also I want a Batman who is hyper fixated with dinosaurs. It’s also cannon that the cape is really heavy. I’d like to think he likes the feel of his weighted cape.

Favorite Batman Quotes:

“Why’d you stay with me all day? Risking your butt for someone who’s never given you anything but trouble?” -Harley Quinn “I know what it’s like to try and rebuild a life.”-Bruce he then hands her the dress she was going to buy, but the store owner assumed she was stealing. “I had a bad day, too, once.”-Bruce “Nice guys like you shouldn’t have bad days.”-Harley

“Master Bruce was the most selfless individual I ever met. He never wanted any credit for the work he did when he put on that cape. But now that he’s gone, I want people to know the truth. Those who thought Bruce Wayne was merely an idle playboy should know he really was, everything sacrificed to protect this city he loved so much. The world should know… the world should know what my son did.” -Alfred

“Bruce was the only person who would listen to me ramble about evidence techniques and crime scene investigations. I’m still in awe of how his mind works.” -Barry (me citing this for different reasons than before)

Example of Bruce listening to the person ramble to being the one to ramble. “No dinosaur fights?”-Hal “they’re just animals. If we can avoid it…”-Bruce “Gorgeous creatures.”-Hal “it’s fascinating, actually. The island was first discovered in the year 1927 when German World War I pilot Hans Avon Hammer-” -Bruce “you know, you have never been to my house.”-Hal

I love when Bruce is sassy. Exhibit A. Bruce is in his house going up the stairs when he sees Damian hanging out the window. “Hello.”-Damian “Hnn. 'Morning.”-Bruce “there’s a problem father.” “Obviously.”-Bruce

Even better when Superman is poking fun at him. Exhibit 2.A. “There’s a whole desert to choose from. You can pick anywhere else but here to wait and watch.” -Bruce “yeah, but that’d be lonely.” -Clark “I don’t get lonely.” -Bruce “of course you don’t. Mind if I keep you company?” -Clark “Yes.” “Perfect. I’ll stay right here, then.” -Clark

Karl Urban(51) or Jensen Ackles(45) as Bruce Wayne

Mari McCabe is this free spirit. She is someone who shows to be intuitive and calls people out with ease and gentleness. She is someone who is fun to be around and aims to bring people together, that’s why her and Roy Harper got along really well.

At one point in comics Mari took two months to plan Christmas party for the JLA and they were all being lame. So she called Roy to come save the party. I love that she wanted all these heroes to just have fun for once.

When she was new to being a hero she began working alongside the Justice League she called Batman out for something he did. Eventually it led to him opening up to her about things. She comforting and understanding. Then she invites to have a night off. They go out and have dinner, but then their date is interrupted by an explosion. She then says to him “this was supposed to be your night to relax.” I like that she aims to help the people around her enjoy themselves.

Mari McCabe quotes:

“You can do this, Mari. When I was, briefly, in the JLA- they talked about you like you were… well, not like me. Like you were something special. Batman even said you had a rare elegance and grace.” -Helena

“Of course I’ll help. I never turn my back on those in need, despite my own needs.” -Mari

First interaction between Mari and J'onn: “Now, female, explain yourself.”- J'onn “ ‘female, explain yourself’ —I’m gonna choke, you guys are so funny. *snort* haha.” -Mari “she’s laughing at us?” -J'onn

Kiki Layne(31) or Jodie Turner-Smith(36) as Mari McCabe

[byfulcrums]

I think your so on the money on ur thoughts on how would a “YJWally is JLU!Wally” would handle Clark is like the ultimate “oh no this authority figure who seemed unreachable is now a person who is my peer” feeling because yes, I totally agree with your assessment that the OG team would have mixed feelings on superman (pre season 2) and Wally would look at this Clark like hmm…but I think that’s what this idea is missing in the grand scheme of things seeing that shift for Wally internally, seeing him changing his thoughts on these people he used to know in another context become something different. Like I for one, would love to see a fic dedicated to Wally and the JL show league original seven building their bond that it almost makes him forget what the others were like we cannot forget that for instance, JLU superman really wanted to kill lex (and did in one universe) for seemingly killing Wally and Wally broke into tears when Clark showed up again after HE thought was to have died. He also told Clark to smile more sweetie and stop being an ass during the whole brainiac/Cadmus arc. The relationships between the JLU original seven make me so feral

What you said! Yes!!!

Tbh I personally think that the team is still somewhat bitter about Clark's relationship with Conner, including Wally. But bitter as in “Will make fun of you and mention it all the time to annoy you”, not “I'm actually angry about this”

Wally knows that Conner and Clark are in good terms now and while he's spent a lot of time shitting on Clark with the rest of the team because that's what friends do when they find out you have a complicated relationship with your parents, he still accepts it and is totally supportive of them

However, this doesn't mean that he won't be salty with Supes over it. The whole team is

And also yeah, I would pay to see Wally's view on the JL after the dimension travel

He first viewed them as heroes. So high and unreachable; he basically worshipped them, as any other little kid did

Then, he thought of them as celebrities. Famous people with money that can be assholes but can also be the kindest people in the world

And when he discovered Barry was the Flash, some of them even became family! But only some, because after forming the team, most of the members became his friends' parents or relatives

But then he ‘died’ and appeared in another whole universe where not only did the Justice League not even exist, both his uncle and him were dead and Hal, not having Barry, wasn't even living in earth anymore!

And that's when things start to get complicated. Because he takes his dad uncle's name, wears his suit and becomes him, in a way. He takes the name of Flash and starts going out to be a superhero because Central City needs a speedster there

So when he, along with the others, forms the Justice League... well. Things are awkward

He can no longer view them as his friends's relatives. He can't even think of them as heroes. Now, they're actual people to him. They aren't celebrities anymore, they're friends. He's watched them doubt themselves, cry, laugh, get angry just like how he did with his old team and he just can't not view them as people now

And I personally believe that he avoids thinking about it as much as he can, but when he's left alone with his thoughts he can't help but remember that he used to call some of them aunt and uncle and now he's calling them coworker or sister or brother or friend

And he tries to remember what the old versions of them he used to know were like only to find that he can't remember them. Like, can't remember them at all

Now, when he thinks of Green Lantern, he doesn't think of Uncle Hal anymore, he thinks of John Stewart. The versions of them he used to know were slowly replaced by his now coworkers and friends

He can't remember. And now he's worrying that he might forget his old family friends too

[canonrpfinder]

hello hello! I’ve been on an absolute binge rewatching Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, and I am again reminded of how absolutely devastated I was that we didn’t get more interactions between Shayera and John Stewart, or more of Shayera struggling to reconcile with herself as a person after the events of the end of JL. I’m just dying for interactions between John and Shayera about things like their current relationship and how she perceives herself as unforgivable. I would just love to write Shayera, but seeing as this fandom is pretty small, I miiiiight be able to try my hand at writing John. In the same vein, I’m also willing to be super flexible with who I write Shayera against. Hell, I can even swing crossovers as I’m sure a Spiderverse crossover could very well work but I’m mainly itching for some John and Shayera. Maybe they get back together, maybe they don’t. I just wanna have some fun with it.

A little bit about me: I’m 22 years old and female. Will not write with anyone under 18 as I don’t feel comfortable doing so. I’m very literate (the amount I write often requires me splitting up my responses into two Discord messages’ worth), and I write in 3rd person past-tense. Speaking of Discord, I ONLY rp there. It should also be noted that I’m here to make friends. I have autism and adhd, and can be rather chatty and hyperactive about the things I love. You may ask me to tone it down, but please, please be patient with me! I’m just very excitable. I’m very high-energy at times, and also have a lot of anxiety about how I’m perceived by others. Also, I take writing SUPER seriously. Like I’m kind of a stickler for proper grammar, sentence syntax, and the like. Obviously I can’t force anyone to conform to this, but it’s a huge plus if your writing style is like this as well.

I think that about does it! Just interact with this post and I’ll reach out to you.

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[findroleplay]

hello hello! I finished watching Justice League Unlimited recently and I was absolutely devastated that we didn’t get more interactions between Shayera and John Stewart, or more of Shayera struggling to reconcile with herself as a person after the events of the end of JL. I’m just dying for interactions between John and Shayera about things like their current relationship and how she perceives herself as unforgivable. I would just love to write Shayera, but seeing as this fandom is pretty small, I miiiiight be able to try my hand at writing John. In the same vein, I’m also willing to be super flexible with who I write Shayera against. Hell, I can even swing crossovers as I’m sure a Spiderverse crossover could very well work but I’m mainly itching for some John and Shayera. Maybe they get back together, maybe they don’t. I just wanna have some fun with it.

A little bit about me: I’m 22 years old and female. Will not write with anyone under 18 as I don’t feel comfortable doing so. I’m very literate (the amount I write often requires me splitting up my responses into two Discord messages’ worth), and I write in 3rd person past-tense. Speaking of Discord, I only rp there. It should also be noted that I’m here to make friends. I have autism and adhd, and can be rather chatty and hyperactive about the things I love. You may ask me to tone it down, but please, please be patient with me! I’m just very excitable. I’m very high-energy at times, and also have a lot of anxiety about how I’m perceived by others.

I think that should do it! Please interact with this post and I’ll reach out with my Discord username!

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[yetanotherrpfinder]

hello hello! I’ve been on an absolute binge rewatching Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, and I am again reminded of how absolutely devastated I was that we didn’t get more interactions between Shayera and John Stewart, or more of Shayera struggling to reconcile with herself as a person after the events of the end of JL. I’m just dying for interactions between John and Shayera about things like their current relationship and how she perceives herself as unforgivable. I would just love to write Shayera, but seeing as this fandom is pretty small, I miiiiight be able to try my hand at writing John. In the same vein, I’m also willing to be super flexible with who I write Shayera against. Hell, I can even swing crossovers as I’m sure a Spiderverse crossover could very well work but I’m mainly itching for some John and Shayera. Maybe they get back together, maybe they don’t. I just wanna have some fun with it.

A little bit about me: I’m 22 years old and female. Will not write with anyone under 18 as I don’t feel comfortable doing so. I’m very literate (the amount I write often requires me splitting up my responses into two Discord messages’ worth), and I write in 3rd person past-tense. Speaking of Discord, I ONLY rp there. It should also be noted that I’m here to make friends. I have autism and adhd, and can be rather chatty and hyperactive about the things I love. You may ask me to tone it down, but please, please be patient with me! I’m just very excitable. I’m very high-energy at times, and also have a lot of anxiety about how I’m perceived by others. Also, I take writing SUPER seriously. Like I’m kind of a stickler for proper grammar, sentence syntax, and the like. Obviously I can’t force anyone to conform to this, but it’s a huge plus if your writing style is like this as well. Replies are often fairly slow, as my ability to write is heavily influenced by my mood.

I think that’s about it! Like this and I’ll reach out to you.

Like if interested!

[findyourrp]

I may have previously submitted something but I’m like 99% sure I forgot the emoji like a doofus 😭

hello hello! I’ve been on an absolute binge rewatching Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, and I am again reminded of how absolutely devastated I was that we didn’t get more interactions between Shayera and John Stewart, or more of Shayera struggling to reconcile with herself as a person after the events of the end of JL. I’m just dying for interactions between John and Shayera about things like their current relationship and how she perceives herself as unforgivable. I would just love to write Shayera, but seeing as this fandom is pretty small, I miiiiight be able to try my hand at writing John. In the same vein, I’m also willing to be super flexible with who I write Shayera against. Hell, I can even swing crossovers as I’m sure a Spiderverse crossover could very well work but I’m mainly itching for some John and Shayera. Maybe they get back together, maybe they don’t. I just wanna have some fun with it.

A little bit about me: I’m 22 years old and female. Will not write with anyone under 18 as I don’t feel comfortable doing so. I’m very literate (the amount I write often requires me splitting up my responses into two Discord messages’ worth), and I write in 3rd person past-tense. Speaking of Discord, I ONLY rp there. It should also be noted that I’m here to make friends. I have autism and adhd, and can be rather chatty and hyperactive about the things I love. You may ask me to tone it down, but please, please be patient with me! I’m just very excitable. I’m very high-energy at times, and also have a lot of anxiety about how I’m perceived by others. Also, I take writing SUPER seriously. Like I’m kind of a stickler for proper grammar, sentence syntax, and the like. Obviously I can’t force anyone to conform to this, but it’s a huge plus if your writing style is like this as well. Replies may be slow as my ability to write is heavily affected by my mood.

That should be it! Like and I’ll reach out ✨

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[sil-and-seals-blog-something]

I just imagine that, on day, Danny comes in with a food container before presenting it the J’onn. It’s a Earth equivalent to a Martian meal that Danny made with Alfred’s help after figuring out which ingredients would be similar enough to work. The onlooking heroes can’t bring themselves to even attempt to interrupt the moment in anyway. J’onn is likely very touched by the effort that went in, especially when Danny starts listing off possible alternative ingredients just in case they were better.

Also, yes, Danny just hunting the GLs down and writing notes on all of their similarities and differences to Earth cops. Just trying to figure out if he should be ACAB towards them or not. He’s got a whole list. I imagine that the GLs are actually pretty decent since, well that Justice League cartoon on Netflix with episodes 4 and 5 where John Stewart was on trial for a crime that even he thought he committed (later revealed to have been an illusion). The other GLs present at the trial were angry at John Stewart and were very honest in their disappointment (although, they were already condemning him despite not having all the facts, which they show remorse for later), and John was full on ready to face execution, emphasizing that he’ll set an example that not even the powerful can escape the consequences. (The corruption was, in fact, only on the space court present, like you’d have to watch it to see what I mean, but that court was messed up. Quote “Flash: Don't you have any lawyers here?

Chief Judge: We solved our lawyer problem a long time ago.

Third Judge: However, you could speak for him if you wish.

Second Judge: But be aware: If you lose, you will share the same penalty as the accused.

Flash: The same penalty? You mean...That's crazy!

Chief Judge: No, that's how we solved our lawyer problem.”) So, I’d say that GLs are at least decent space cops from my experiences in seeing them so far.

Also, yes, I adore Petty Bitch Batman. Most of the JL don’t even realize that he’s being petty until far later down the line. I love that Superman just accepts that his friend is petty as fuck.

Y’know what is one of my favorite things with batman, base or crossover? The mans has no idea how a ‘normal’ child is and just. Thinks all kids are Like That.  You have to remember that he’s not actively going out and searching for these kids, like 90% of them were already out as vigilantes or in Dick’s case sneaking out to try and commit a murder.  Literally all of his kids are like that and he just, does Not know what a normal child is supposed to act like. Has absolutely no idea that most kids do not gleefully beat the stuffing out of criminals for fun.  Which means it’s hilarious when the rest of his friends try to tell him that kids Aren’t Supposed To Do That

[mattzerella-sticks]

DC and Warner Bros KNOW what they're getting into with their latest DC animated project!!

Not only are they giving us more content for a Lantern people have been wanting to see (especially since news of his presence in the JL movie was leaked), but they're also throwing it back to one of thee most popular DC medias of all time - I'm talking bout the og Justice League/Justice League Unlimited cartoon series!

Like I cannot believe we are seeing John Stewart and Shayera on our screens again 😍

[hawkgirlz]

honestly been wanting to rant about this for a while but I truly do think the john stewart/shayera hol ship ended up damaging their characters rather than helping them.

to start, john was originally an architect before the justice league show gave him the military background. since geoff johns worked on one of the episodes in jlu, it was clear he was a jlu fan & basically incorporated that into comic john. by doing so, we ended up with one of the worst written john stewarts in history, a john that was so patriotic and explicitly said that he was willing to kill people for america. while gj does get backlash for how he was written from john fans, I do think jl + jlu should be incorporated in that too as it was what started the military origin in the first place. it's true that the show led to john's popularity but outside of that, it didn't really benefit him in the comics. plus the main reason the origin was given was because they wanted him & shayera to have something to relate to in the show which was very stupid considering john was already apart of the glc. but apparently that wasn't enough? and then there's bruce timm being the weirdo that he is, he apparently didn't like john's origin in the comics cause it addressed racism like one time. as if anyone was even asking him to do that???

despite her rising popularity from the shows, dc instead decided to kill shayera off while jlu was airing during pre-n52. I do think this also links to jl + jlu having shayera go by hawkgirl instead of her comic alias, hawkwoman. i was actually surprised when I first read that comic shayera despised being called hawkgirl & I will never understand why the show proceeded to call her that. all it did was confuse people since kendra had arrived to comics two years before the show aired. it was clear that kendra had taken all the hawkgirl hype as she was the person who actually went by that alias in the comics.

now I'll actually dissect the ship. for the record, I am well aware that this is an alternate universe, but despite this, I still think the ship did more damage than good to the gp's perception of these characters.

like I said, the build up towards john/shayera was genuinely good. it was the classic slowburn between partners, then friends, to lovers. but the problem is, they had to retcon a lot of shayera's background in order to make the relationship actually work. you see, the jl crew was originally planning on making katar hol (hawkman) the villain who initiates the invasion & physically abuses shayera. anyone who has read hawkworld + any comic of katar/shayera altogether would know how insanely out of character this would have been for him, and for the sake of this post, I'll be referring to his hawkworld characterization. the crew ended up pushing the idea back not because of how ooc it was, but because they were scared of the backlash from comic fans. in the comics, shayera was assigned as katar's partner in the thanagarian force, except that the thanagarian government wanted shayera to specifically spy on katar prior to their plans for an invasion. the thanagarian government knew katar would most likely resist their ideas & wanted shayera to tell them everything she finds out about him. when the betrayal was revealed, this obviously hurt katar. shayera ended up disobeying due to her developing feelings for katar & together, they stopped the invasion. the invasion in question was also being initiated by shayera's corrupt father and when you look back at it, the show was kind of bland in comparison. the show CONSTANTLY reduced shayera's character in regards to her being a love interest, not once did we ever get a moment where we actually discovered what her life on thanagar was like. which is what the hawkworld comics did. my point is: if you have to ruin a character to make a relationship work, then maybe the ship just isn't good.

and honestly this is me being nice in my analysis because nothing about john/shayera was even original writing wise. most if not all aspects of their relationship were stolen from katar/shayera relationship in the hawkworld comics and anyone who actually read them would agree with me on this.

one key point that bothered me in regards to jlu was the origin they had given shayera regarding her reincarnations. while dwayne mcduffie revealed that bashari doesn't actually exist & that it was john/shayera's feelings messing with the asbsorbacron, it's obviously not the case for the eyes of the gp. the irony is that jlu stans tend to complain about hawkman/shayera, talking about how boring it is since they're reincarnations when jlu ended up doing the same thing for john/shayera, by having chay-ara cheat on katar with bashari. this + their son, rex stewart, was jlu's way of saying john/shayera were always destined for each other. this isn't any different from the reincarnation cycle regarding the hawks, but for some reason, it is to some. what I find funny is that people genuinely believe that john/shayera pushes shayera in a 'solo spotlight' by keeping her away from the reincarnation process. when all it did was tie her down to it again but with a different man. the inclusion of bashari + rex stewart basically got rid of what could've made john/shayera's relationship interesting for shayera as a character. john's motivations to possibly get back with shayera suddenly weren't his own, which was why he stayed with vixen. it's also ironic that shayera was upset about this because like I said, jlu stans were saying that john/shayera pushed her in a solo spotlight despite the show tying her down to another reincarnation cycle.

i don't know if I can even stomach what they did to katma, that's literally his WIFE in the comics but the gp just considers her a fling now.

what's frustrating to me about john/shayera as a ship is that the ship altogether was done for nothing in the end. people might be wondering why john/shayera are never included for comics in main continuity. the answer is simple. dc editorial doesn't allow comic writers to include them. the irony is john/shayera was the only couple on the show that had the crew arguing with each other because not even they knew what to do with them lol. it was actually confirmed that a lot of the crew turned their back on the ship after the ancient history episode was revealed and that was when they began to despise the couple because they believed the comic reincarnation backstory being massacred was unnecessary (which is completely valid tbh).

comic writers have spoken about their love for the couple but being unable to write stories for them. wonderbat gets some content in main continuity so it's clear that dc editorial specifically has beef with john/shayera, which is why I think the ship was such a waste in the end. the ship is clearly popular with the gp but what was the point of pushing aside their canon love interests to the point where the gp's perception of their love lives is also skewed if the editorial in question doesn't even want to acknowledge them? as a comic fan, I'm simply annoyed that they couldn't have just been with their canon love interests instead of this mess.

*also i was confused in where people had gotten the idea that hawkman himself is egyptian (as aldis hodge was receiving backlash for being casted as carter hall) & it turns out that jlu was also responsible for this lol. I want to add that comic katar hol post-crisis was not egyptian, he had a native american mother & a thanagarian father. he wasn't even egyptian in the show, jlu had given the hawks an extremely racist/orientalist background where they were white passing thanagarians who crashed into earth and had taken over an Egyptian civilization of Black & brown people. and yes i say white passing cause they were still a different skin tone from the actual Egyptians and not even Bruce Timm's art style could hide that. just so many unnecessary changes when the comics were never like that.

this video also perfectly explains why their relationship went downhill: https://youtu.be/LgCjhZfJ704

[all-0f-the-above]

JUSTICE LEAGUE INFINITY #3 / Cover art by Dan Mora

I'M GOING TO LOSE MY SHIT IS THAT CALVIN ELLIS MY FAVORITE SUPERMAN EVER

background: he's a your kryptonian named Kal El who crash landed on Earth as a baby (this time with even mildly realistic skin color because if you need to absorb sunlight you're going to have a dark complexion!) styles his fighting based on the boxing training he had as a kid, became the president of the US, and runs literally his own JL, the multiverse JL (usually comprised of the most powerful iterations of leaguers throughout the DC multiverse), and also makes time to be the president-

I just can't with him he's so ridiculously op in time management of all things

by the way have you seen his costume? coolest shit. I get that the trunks are traditional but m8 the golden belt is sooo good. with the house of El silhouette in the middle? aspirational! and that modernized S? beautiful! so clean! the one shoulder cape that kind of reminds me of old medieval knights? dashing! the high collar? are you trying to kill me? phenomonal!

fun fact! inspiration for his design came from Barack Obama and Muhammad Ali, the creators from him are Grant Morrison and Doug Mahnk

i love that J'onn and Bruce look incredibly similar. oh you guys

I can't get over the fact that this Bruce has a more tacky color scheme (showing approachability?)

and this J'onn is just... a different shade of green? please never change your JL outfit in the DCAU, J'onn. I can't say it's my favorite outfit of all time (because it's not) but it's perfect for you in this universe- please don't get rid of it.

absolutely adoring the Nubia Wonder Woman

with more gold accents like a necklace and more gold on the tunic and skirt. looks very purposeful and more warrior-esque rather than trying to stay close to the traditional Ms. America thing from the first WW origins.

ngl i really prefer this outfit because having silver bracelets with other golden accessories always bothered me so Nubia Absolutely Got It Right

then Arthur has his chest covered! oh what a day!

the close cropped hair and lack of a hook says quite a lot about his character differences already.

also is that the Sydney Opera House behind him? is this Aquaman from the southern hemisphere? oh my god please tell me he has an aussie accent that'd be amazing. (if we get Aussie Aquaman can we please have Actual Southerner Calvin Ellis, too? please that'd be amazing. and New Jersey Man Bruce. and Actually Greek Nubia. and Midwestern (Detriot, duh) American J'onn. and Place He Was Raised Carter Hall.

oh hey Flash has a new outfit! pretty minimal but also similar to Bart's? I'll decide if I like it when I see the whole thing.

hey look it's *squints* Hal?

OKAY so I Googled to see which GL is on Earth 23 and got this from Fandom.com: "John Stewart is the Green Lantern of Earth 23." then I realized that they've already changed some other Earth 23 canon already by including Aquaman and J'onn so I give up.

if you were looking for commentary on his clothing then i think yes he looks cool I just am so confused why he's wearing white?? that's usually a parallax thing? is this Hal and he's in his Not Parallax Anymore aftermath? I give up

then... oh Carter Hall, never change. I love that the big yellow "X" covers his nipples of all things. this mans.

the obvious difference between cooler tones for the OG league vs. warmer tones for the alt team is great I just want them to make J'onn less lime green.

I'll probably review JLI #1 finally like in a week? I just keep forgetting to get around to it. by then it'll already be JLI #2 time and goodness knows I've already bought that because I preordered it hell yeah

[dorizardthewizard]

Misconception: Hal Jordan is an idiot

Okay this might be part of a series of Green Lantern posts I’ve been writing when bored, because hey you read some youtube comments and suddenly you’re an essay writer. It’s just gonna be me rambling about Hal’s character lol

So we’ve all made dumbass jokes, me included, but honestly? Hal’s not stupid, he can’t be. It takes a lot to be a test pilot, including a degree in the engineering/physics field, and most likely military service. He wouldn’t have gotten as far as he did if he wasn’t smart enough.

It might not always seem that way though, but that’s because he excels in thinking on the fly, which is so important when you’re dealing with intergalactic crises springing up every Tuesday. He’s the guy who will jump right into danger and trust that he can get himself out afterwards. We’ve seen him think his way out of tricky situations before, even if in his own crazy style like jumping out of a plane to recharge his ring from the head of a Manhunter. In some circles he’s kind of gotten the reputation of being the lame one in the Justice League, which can’t possibly be true when he has a ton of amazing feats to him like defeating Sinestro multiple times, killing Krona despite the fact that a GL ring shouldn’t be able to kill a Guardian, controlling the death entity Nekron to defeat the reality-bending First Lantern, making a ring out of his own willpower… etc.

So if he isn’t actually an idiot, where did this reputation come from? The ring chooses according to willpower and technically, not being bright shouldn’t make anyone less worthy, but this trait has kind of been blown up over the years to the point where some people are getting “dumbass energy” mixed with “actual dumbass”. Going back to the silver age, Hal definitely had a clumsy streak – we’ve all laughed at the panels like him slipping over in the shower and knocking himself out. It was pretty endearing though, watching this walking disaster still manage to save the day.

I feel like some of that was lost in later comics as he grew up, and when Johns brought him back even later, he was more like the cool, cocky pilot type (although still a disaster in other areas lol). The thing is, because of his nature of jumping into danger it sometimes seems like he really can’t think for himself, but that’s not the case. It’s just his style to go in guns blazing, shining bright and attracting all the attention away from whoever’s he’s saving and onto him. It’s true that it doesn’t always work out as well as he hopes, and that makes for some fun stories, but other times his quick instincts are lifesaving.

It wasn’t until the New 52 where this really got blown up though – while the GL comics continued mostly the same as before, other characters got rebooted so we got a whole new Justice League dynamic. A lot of people unfamiliar with GL know his New 52 version through the animated movies, and booooy…. this guy is basically Guy Gardner but less lovable, more insufferable and way less competent.

Of course this isn’t just limited to him, a lot of the Justice League members seem to be caricatures of themselves in this movie but I feel like he’s gotten it the worst. The Batman Syndrome doesn’t help either, where everyone’s dumbed down and nerfed to make him look like the biggest BAMF on the League. You have a guy who literally works with aliens everyday but of course only Batman’s tech can identify an alien device as a bomb! There’s also the ring-stealing gimmick, which is stupid because a Green Lantern is always bound to their ring through concentration – to remove it they literally have to disengage their minds from it first. I don’t know, maybe there’s a retcon or something but it’s still dumb. He even does this to John Stewart in JL Dark – that’s crossing the line :’P

Of course you could say JL War was early days and he hadn’t been a GL that long, but it doesn’t get much better in the other films and it’s no excuse for crossing into annoying asshole territory. It’s a difficult balance to strike and boy can you tell when a writer only has surface-level knowledge of his character...

Yikes. Sure he can be a cocky flirt – so was Han Solo – but he was actually likable!!

Sadly this trend of making Hal more and more of a comic relief man-child outside of comics continues, you’ve got kids watching him in DC Superhero Girls thinking that’s the definitive take on him, and we’re not getting a new GL movie any time soon to really delve into the character, whether animated or live action. Thankfully the animated series portrays him in a more positive light (although maybe they went a bit too far in flattening out his flaws, but that’s a post for another time) but that got cancelled so :/ Again I’m not well-versed in New 52 and Rebirth comics outside of GL yet but I have seen snippets of Justice League comics where it seems like he’s grown more into his old self, my favourite being his Darkseid War tie-in, which I really hope to see animated someday. Speaking of movies, the 2011 one certainly didn’t do him any favours – I actually think Reynolds did okay as Hal but when people look back on it, all they see is the Deadpool guy.

Anyway this is kind of going off on a tangent but still, it’s sad seeing so many comments joking about him being dumb and incompetent and that they should have used another lantern instead (I agree we need more of the other lanterns but not because Hal sucks), just because bad writing made him a caricature of his worst traits. When this happens to characters like Batman, tons of fans complain and come to his defence by calling out the writing, yet for Hal many just assume this is how he always is. In a world where Aquaman is actually getting some love, I really hope we can get a good adaptation for Hal soon.

TLDR;

Me: Oh Hal you dumbass

Someone: Ikr he’s such an idiot and a jerk I hate him

Me:

Me: What the fuck did you just say

[mighty-ant]

Justice league/jlu! Nice, love that show and still rewatch it nowadays when I want a cheer up. Who was your fav? Also did you have a fav ep? The Question is my fav but J’onn is also dear to my heart.

The DCAU shows continue to exemplify my favorite characterizations for DC hero and villain alike! 

It’s hard for me to narrow down a fave, but I guess if I were to narrow it down for Justice League and JLU respectively. 

For JL, it would probably have to be Wally West (though John Stewart is a close second!)

He’s my number one Flash to this day, goofy enough to be regular comic relief but never allowing that to detract from his humility and empathy. 

That’s probably why one of my favorite episodes is Flash and Substance from JLU

My favorite JLU character would probably have to be the Question too! I love me some Jeffrey Combs, and the Question is just so much fun to watch.