#I DO NOT SUPPORT IRL CONSANG

[doesyourshipmakeyouabadperson]

even if I'm a DID system with sibling/sibling and parent/child relationships internally? (feel free to not post this if it doesn't count)

No.

While idk if this really counts as a ship, this doesn't make you a bad person! For some systems, this could be disastrous. For others, this may be what helps them heal and function. It is important not to judge without knowing context, and I for one trust systems when they say what is and isn't healthy for them! I wish you all much love!

[proshipconfessions]

I get really uncomfortable and frankly scared when people invade proship tags/spaces to talk about reality. I don't have an issue with (fictional) incest, underage, feral/yiff, abuse, whatever, but I've seen way too many people bragging about being or supporting MAPs/pedos, zoophiles, consangs, and "radqueers" and "irl yandere" and stuff in our tags. Not only is it unrelated, but they're talking about real-life abusive things in spaces that have always been about ONLY fiction. Proship spaces are starting to feel really unsafe because of it. I wish paraphiles, consangs, etc. would stop using the proFICTION tags to talk about their fantasies about raping REAL kids/animals/family/etc or stalking/abusing REAL people. Same with "AAM" and "icky kiddo" accounts run by minors posting inappropriate sexual things about themselves and trying to coerce adults, in our profiction tags, too (which is dangerous no matter where they do it obviously, but why HERE?)

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[euniexenoblade]

do you support irl consang couples or does your support end at siscon kinks and calling women mommy? do some actual activism

It's really funny to have someone call kink "activism," if your kink scenes don't change the fucking world what the fuck are you doing.

Also "actual activism" is crazy "going to protests against police violence and rallies about trans women getting murdered in the street and literally feeding the homeless aren't actual activism! You know what is? Incestuous relationships!"

Like I know this is likely a troll but to get the shit I do irl belittled in comparison to that, come on anon lol.

[ghoulspawns]

um you know pro-ship endorses pedophilia right? even if it is just in fiction its really....interesting that you could see a father/mother character and their child and think "yeah, they're romantically involved". Not only that but the whole concept of pro-shipping is really harmful especially to people who have been groomed or kids that have been in relations with their parents like what was mentioned above. Im genuinely not trying to hate but do you not see whats wrong with that? Just because its fiction doesnt mean its not hurtful....

heavily sighs.

we really have to have this talk... AGAIN? I feel like proshippers and antishippers have this stupid debate every 5 seconds.

it is FICTION. fiction can affect reality, yes, but it does NOT affect it 24/7. someone can view a fictional parent and child in a romantic way and can enjoy that relationship without supporting or condoning it irl. fiction is not reality. it's like how some minors feel attraction to fictional adults, but not real adults, our attractions and our preferences can be different in fiction than they are irl (for example; lesbians liking fictional men.), you can enjoy things in fiction and not like/support them irl. you can like horror games/movies without condoning the crimes in said horror, right? so why can't you enjoy other forms of dark fiction like consang relationships and adult x minor relationships without supporting it irl? why is that the moment you're a comshipper, you can't separate fiction from reality?

the whole concept of proshipping is being anti-harassment and minding your own business. that is hurting absolutely NOBODY. even if it was, strangers on the internet aren't responsible to keep you safe.

[familyromantic]

I will never stop saying that we (as society) desperately need to UNlink fiction and real world. As of now people who DO want to write dark fiction/comship stories sympathetically/with happy endings are just afraid that it would be seen as an endorsement. We need authors who openly don't support irl incest and still write fictional incest stories. I need it, because if we're not seen, then people will just continue to assume that all of us incest shippers are pro-consang. And it's just not true. That's why I highly encourage you to be open that fiction is not reality.

[chiwhorei]

do you support irl consang? ive seen people write about it but then suddenly act disgusted by consenting adults irl :(

TL;DR- maybe don’t ask weird hypothetical shit to a dc writer unprompted about dark kink acted out irl. This is all about 2D peen y’all, please keep it that way.

I— I don’t know how to answer this. Do I support incest irl? Do I support the in-real-life act of fornicating with blood relatives? I do not support the in real life fucking of your brothers or dad. I am sure there’s plenty of “what-if” reasons this type of situation is seen as safe, sane, and consensual— but I am sure there are plenty of other places to talk about that then a smut writers ask box.

The aspects I am most drawn to in this genre of fantasy is the depiction of forbidden want and, a lot of times, egregious power imbalances. Aka older brothers, fathers, and uncles. Most of my writing to do with incest will also include at least dubious consent, but usually is non-consensual scenarios.

Just like anything on this blog, this is fantasy— nothing I write about is taken outside of the safety of tumblr/archive to face the consequences of the real world. There’s plenty of reasons people are drawn to dc, to taboo fantasies, to all kinds of kink, and I am not going to postulate on anyone else’s reasons. But my desire to talk about rape/incest/dc in general extends only to each end of my url.

I do understand why someone would be uncomfortable about incest irl even though they write about it on tumblr. We are all here to write fiction, after all. My PTSD response to these topics irl is quite severe and I imagine other ppl might be in the same boat. So maybe next time just like.. don’t…

[justanimp]

me when my mutuals are reblogging proship posts :[

makes me feel very...uncomfy

but alas, their opinion is theirs, and my opinion is mine, and as long as they're not causing harm (which proshippers do when they ship incestuous or abusive or grooming stuff, as they normalize it and romanticize it), i'll let 'em be

if you wanna write fanfic or draw fanart of something that could be hazardous to someone else, go ahead. just PLEASE keep it to yourself

if you're writing it to cope, great!! but please don't give fuel to others who may cause the same trauma you experienced to others. trust me, seeing art about whatever bad thing they wish to do, will make them more likely to do it as it'll be on their minds more.

and if you write that stuff because you think its cute??? politely get the fuck away from me, and stop romanticizing abuse i've been through. thanks

before y'all say that 'you're not romantizing [insert bad thing here]', shush. i've seen so many consang folks (people who support irl incest) who also are proship (and then ship incestuous ships)

anyways yeah. i think its okay to write whatever you wanna write if a) it doesn't harm anyone or if it can harm someone then

b) it isn't shared publicly.

yeah anyways. antis please don't fuckin' send death threats to proshippers. that's just an asshole move.

sorry for the rant just...grah. lotta thoughts on my mind.

proshippers can interact on this post, i guess, if you wish to have a conversation.

[paras-doxical]

Hi! I'm Vash, and this is my para blog. I use any neos along with they/it. I am an adult.

I am the creator of the term paraqueer.

I am strictly anti-contact for any paras that would nonconsensual if acted upon. Children and animals can never consent.

I have multiple paras, and I am neurodivergent.

My 'DNI'/stances explanation

Pro-contact, contact neutral, or contact complex - children and animals cannot consent.

I consider myself a radinclu and am a mspec gay. If you exclude mspec lesbians/gays or lesboys/turigirls, you probably won't like my account. I also include all aspecs, not limited to: aromantics, asexuals, folks who don't use the split attraction model, loveless folks, aplatonics, alloaros, aroaces, alloaces, oriented and angled aroaces, aspec paras, and any others I may have forgotten.

I am anti harassment. If you harass people for their ships or believe it's okay to do so, you will get blocked.

If you are anti kink or kink critical—why are you interacting with this blog? You can't support paraphiles but not kinksters.

If you are a radqueer, I would feel more comfortable if you didn't interact. Not every radqueer is a bad person, but so many of them are and do not respect boundaries or excuse others who are doing bad things. If you are willing to learn, you may interact with this account.

TransID skeptical—I am willing to talk about TransID alternatives, but please don't bring discourse about TransIDs onto this account.

If you are pro-IRL consang (consensual incest), please do not interact with me for my own comfort

'Narcissistic abuse' does not exist. PwNPD are not secretly abusers and do not have a special way of abusing others that cannot be described in other terms, such as emotional abuse.

[softenedh00ves]

Introduction post

My name is Jimmy, I’m a member of a system (that will not be discussed much here, as I don’t find it all too important)

I post therian experiences, drawings, and anything else I want to (it is my blog :3)

Theriotypes & kintypes

- maned wolf

- deer/horse (specifics unknown, still questioning)

- unicorn

Some important boundaries

- basic dni, I’m bodily a minor so mdni and nsfw blogs stay away

- no one reads dni much these days, but people I don’t really like and will get blocked are

- endogenic and supporters

- terfs & others similar

- proship and comship

- promoting anything irl, like pro consang and map stuff

I think that’s the basic outline of who I do not want in my space, I think most other things it comes down to different opinions are okay.

I use she/they pronouns

I will post on here about being a little critter :3

Apologies for bad English, grammar, or spelling, it is a struggle sometimes because I suffer from being a dog 😔

Bonus song about the transfem experience that has become very popular with therians haha

[neurotheascars]

TRIGGER WARNING-

this blog has lots of unpleasant imagery on it and I'm too cognitively handicapped to tag reliably. This is my uncensored safe space.

I complain here so I don't complain out loud too much. I'm a reformed persecutor alter from a mixed origin system. Happy to explain to you how we exist if you think we don't.

18+ please.

Scroll at your risk.

I follow from my hosts account @polychaeteworm

My name is pronounced "Sara". I'm not a girl, not a boy, not a man, not a woman. I'm a tall alien. Femme like an elf, masc like a vampire. I'm mostly autoromantic and objectum for large bongs and blades.

I don't care what pronouns you use on me. My host defaults to he/him but I do not mind she/her or shee/hir. My species only has one sex, but an individualistic gender system, so I am Xenogender and genderflux in every sense of the words. I don't human gender concepts.

I love swords and smoking weed and I have a strong desire to run into the woods/onto a highway/into the ocean when I'm upset because I get weird alien homesickness. I talk about that here a lot, but don't worry, I am safe and supervised.

Really into Saltburn right now, so that shows up here too. Felix Catton is my Tumblr blorbo. I also just really really like dark royalty/vampire and academia in general as well as sick little freaks.

Kinks that might appear here- smoking/intox, blood/blades, shibari, parasitism/corruption, and maybe sometimes consang.

Discourse positions-

I'm anti misinfo and support all forms of plurality. My system is traumagenic but I do not like associating my existence with a mental disorder because of my origin within my paracosm. I respectfully don't like being referred to as having "come from trauma". My origin is complex and unrelated to any trauma. Do not call me an "apparently normal part" I'm not a part, I'm a complete entity and there is literally nothing normal about me.

I don't have a DNI, I just block if I don't want to interact. Just be nice and don't violate your own DNI to speak to me.

I'm a survivor of complex abuse (not quite RAMCOA but damn close) who writes and reads nasty things to cope and I'm not interested in hearing why you think I'm a freak for my kinks or the stuff I reblog. I'm pro-recovery and pro fiction. I do not support irl harm. I don't think of what I write as "shipping" because my system only reads and writes OC and we associate the term shipping with fandom. We don't mind fanfics, we just favor focusing on OC content.

Send all complaints to my host and steward, Orn (@polycheateworm) he is better articulate and I'm not nice to have an argument with because of my language challenges so please be patient. He also is better equipped to answer most questions you might have about me. Most of what I say here is dictated within the system so I'm actually less articulate as an altar than I appear on average so if I get upset and don't have an alter to dictate to, my language might decline.

What does your username mean?

My system has maladaptive daydreaming and I am an introject of an extremely developed OC from a paracosm.

Because I spent most of my life living inside an inner world that is as complex as the real one, my personal history and memories are not fully Earth Related.

Neurothea is an illness on the planet I come from. It hurts your brain in a lot of ways, you catch it from parasites and it can kill you. If you survive it you will have large scars from it. it's an exotrauma embodiment of complex abuse my human body has suffered. Its a fictional way that I as an alter interface with the difficulty my body has.

[cynicalundead]

DNI & BYF

We're the Horizon, a dissociative system. We don't have a set host and Fronters generally cycle unpredictably. We tag sign-offs when relevant. Our trauma and diagnoses are not your business 💕

We're collectively genderfluid & bisexual, and the host is a cisgender lesbian. The body is AFAB, and our alters range through most identities. We're introject heavy but most of them don't identify with/as their sources.

We are endo-neutral. Very very heavily critical of the Endo/Inclusive Plural community, and we will frequently post about the ways that the organized community is toxic or dangerous. Don't follow if that makes you uncomfortable.

Most of us believe that the word system is inherently in reference to dissociative systems, and, by definition, Endo plurals are not dissociative. We believe that the communities could be healthily cooperative, but even more firmly believe that there needs to be some significant degree of seperation between endogenic plurals and dissociative systems, as the experiences are inherently different.

That being said, any system post not specifying otherwise is intended specifically for dissociative systems. Posts for plurals in general will specify such. Endos, please do not derail posts that aren't about you, and please follow with caution, as we are very loudly critical of inclusys ideology.

DNI:

- supporters/followers of @/queerautism. No exceptions

- maps, zoos, consang, etc

- transid (excluding BIID/BIID adjacent body dysmorphia & age regressors)

- proship, pro-ana, or s/h blogs

- LGBT exclus, in any capacity. we support mspec lesbians/gays, xenos, neos, contradictory identities and everything along those lines

- radfems, terfs, gender crit, anti-men/mlm "all men are trash" mfers, or think that white women are an oppressed minority. /srs

- ableists, critical of educated self-dx, narc abuse truthers, sys fakeclaimers, etc

- anti-homestuck or dsmp

- anti-kins/IRLs in any capacity

- if you're the kind of person to send anon hate asks. Leave me alone LMAO

- anti-kink/bdsm

Important Tags:

#sth vent / #vent tw - venting, dark stuff

#Alter Intros - just posting intros

We're gonna at least try to use these, though a fair disclaimer, most of our posts are reblogs

#sth rambles - how I tag meaningless bullshit

#sth asks - answering asks :)

[doesyourshipmakeyouabadperson]

hi, twitter refugee here and i love this blog. it's a breath of fresh air compared to the "proship" side of one of my previous main fandoms. i feel like both "sides" on twitter generally just use the other stance to mean "anyone i don't like." the big "proship" people in that fandom were hypocrits who would call me anti for having a popular ship as a trigger (even tho i don't care who shipped it) while also calling me a "freak" for (properly tagged) caregiver/little and abdl content. i ended up receiving harassment from them at the same time as harassment from antis for being openly proship and shipping teacher x student, large age gaps and incest. it was just so confusing and frustrating because it was like "whatever happened to ignoring content you don't like? what proship literally means???" as people openly into shotacon would shittalk me over abdl like it doesn't make them sound hypocritical and then it felt so much like you were expected to like the most popular ship in the fandom (which was deemed as problematic by a lot of people) to be "proship" even tho a lot of antis like that ship too. it's just great to see that proship tumblr seems to be actually proship and anti-harassment rather than whatever weirdness twitter was

Oh my god, I am so sorry you've dealt with people like that. Those people sound insufferable, and that means a lot coming from me because I myself am very insufferable ❤️ /hj

Tbh it reminds me of when i saw some so-called "proshippers" (reminder: you can't be proship if you harass people over their shipping tastes!) call people "anti-lite" simply because they didn't support radqueer things like consang.

Consanguinamory is about IRL people! Shipping shipcest is fiction! Anti is not just a label you use for people who don't like the things you like or disagree with you about serious topics like IRL incest, wtf? I know this isn't specifically what this ask is about, but it's something I've actually seen with my own two eyeballs that blows my mind.

You are very welcome here, as are your boundaries. Unfortunately, we do have some of those types of people using the proship label here on tumblr, but thankfully, they aren't common. At least not in my experience. I hope you have a much better time here! ❤️

[antiradqueer]

TL;DR I don't think I'm a pr*shipper but a lot of people seem to think I am, and it makes it confusing when I see that stuff under a DNI because I don't know if it's okay to interact. where is the line drawn?

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genuine question, and if possible I'd like an answer? it's so that I can respect DNIs I come across

where is the line drawn between pr*ship and antiship, or just. anyone who doesn't think they fit into pr*ship?

I don't consider myself a pr*shipper because I despise any kind of pedo content (lolisho/fictional characters included) and agree that it shouldn't be drawn/written/shared, especially for sexual purposes. same with zoo/bestiality and similar stuff.

but a lot of people DO consider me a pr*shipper because when it comes to other stuff like incest, which I'm SUPER uncomfortable with, especially IRL, I just want people to tag it properly so people who don't want to see it for any reason can avoid it. same with like, abusive ships or taboo kinks or whatever. I just want it properly tagged so people don't get exposed to it against their will.

where is the line drawn? I can't stand anyone who identifies as a pr*shipper but supports pedo/zoo art or pro-c posts for any other paraphilia (consang, necro, etc). but I'm constantly lumped in with them because of my other opinion ("write/draw whatever else but fucking TAG it").

DOES that make me a pr*shipper? if it does I'll avoid "pr*shipper DNI" pages but I genuinely don't see myself as one and it's confusing when trying to interact with other anti-rqs

i wouldnt know but yeah absolutely regardless you should tag that shit

[dvaliciious]

Any proshippers out there that support irl consensual incest? Because I personally do. And I would love to meet more people that are proship and support irl CONSENTUAL incest. If you’re pro-irl incent or support consang, please HMU! 

[teddybear-kiddo]

⋙ hello! i'm glad you stopped by! here is a little about me! (o^▽^o)

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⋙ ¡basics!

🧸 i'm Esther, you can also call me Teddy

☁ i go by a lot of pronouns, list down in

the link section!

🧸 my little age is 2-7

☁ i regress as a coping mechanism

🧸 i'm a 110% sfw little

☁ i have a cg but not a community

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⋙ ¡likes!(little space)

🐮 90s cartoons (and older)

🍃 barbie, disney and ghibli movies

🐮 naps

🍃 baths

🐮 read-aloud stories

🍃 sweet things

🐮 hugs and cuddles

🍃 stuffies, squishies, dolls and figures

🐮 lofi, oldies music and kyary pamyu

🍃 all animals that don't stab (i fear)

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⋙ ¡extra!

🍯 i'm neurodivergent!

🐻 i really want more little friends

🍯 i like to rp! we can rp if you want to!

🐻 i use a lot of baby talk in typing

🍯 i'm nonverbal irl (when smol)

🐻 you are beautiful and i love you

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⋙ ¡links!

🌼 my pronouns

💛 my labels

🌼 meet my stuffies

💛 what makes me feel little

🌼 nicknames i like

💛 my cg! (my big brother! nya doesn't

run a cg blog and is mostly inactive)

🌼 aesthetic name list i made

💛 cute names for a cg!

🌼 fave things to do when i'm baby

💛 explaining my age

🌼 important tag to block

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⋙ ¡disclaimer!

🍓 no pictures i post are mine unless

explicitly stated otherwise

🛸 userboxes by the very lovely

@sweetpeauserboxes

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⋙ ¡DNI!

🌞 NSFW, kink, abdl/cgl/ageplay/ddlg,

bdsm or variants

🍄 MAP/NOMAP/PEAR/VIRPED/pedo,

AAM, pro-MAP, pro-AAM or their ally

🌞 anti-anti/pro-ship, "consang"/

consensual incest

🍄 anti-LGBTQ+, anti-MOGAI, TERF/

TWERF/SWERF/TEHM/radfem,

mspec/aspec/arospec exclusionist,

against the use of neopronouns,

anti-mspec gays/lesbians

🌞 anti-kin/gatekeep kin (including

choicekin), a therian elitist

🍄 anti-endo/gatekeep plurality

🌞 racist, anti-BLM, anti-ACAB,

conservative, trump supporter

🍄 you support Autism Speaks or PETA

🌞 thinspo/meanspo, pro-ana/pro-mia

🍄 anti-agere, anti-agedre, anti-petre,

anti-petdre or don't support any of

them for whatever reason

🌞 if you gatekeep ANYTHING or

participate in cringe culture

🍄 if you use slurs you cannot reclaim

🌞 if you participate in discourse on the

blog you are interacting from or want

to drag me into discourse

🍄 superstraight/supergay/

superanything/transphobic or ally

🌞 if you wouldn't let a child in the 2-7

age range see your blog

🍄 if your blog contaims mentions of

any abrahamic religions

🌞 if majority of your posts are not in

english (i have very bad anxiety and

not knowing what kind of person is

interacting with me makes me

very uncomfortable)

🍄 blank blogs, blogs without a DNI or

if you allow any of the above to

interact

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i am okay with you interacting from a different blog if your blog contains mentions of abrahamic religions, traumacore/ventcore, if you run an ED coping blog or if you participate in kink other than ageplay - I do not want to see these things when I check who interacted with my regression blog, but I have nothing against them

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[familyromantic]

I suppose a "controversial" opinion of mine would be that I ultimately do support irl consang relationships that are mutual and consenting. Adults should be free to decide their own lives and relationships, regardless of whether others personally understand them or not, and certainly shouldn't be criminalised for such.

On a personal note, I have some cousins who got together and had kids. We would go visit them all the time growing up, and it was always a cool time. They had pet snakes, we would bake and they had a massive DVD collection. Their kids were fine and they're still together today. So I've seen first-hand that these types of dynamics can be not only healthy but happy and long-lasting. That's not the case for every situation, of course, but it still exists.

And that's what it's all about in the end. Sadly, the world can be a pretty dark and depressing place a lot of the time, and if people can find happiness somehow, then fair play to them. I'd rather people be happy in an unconventional way than existing in misery.

I believe your story and that your cousins were a normal couple and their kids were fine!