#How to train your dragon 3 the hidden world

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Light Fury Design Rant Part 1

So I wanted to ramble about the odd design choice of the Light Fury from How To Train Your Dragon 3: The Hidden World. It comes off as the basic stereotypical making the female different from the males, and imposing human characteristics to animals.

So first off while the HTTYD series is fictional, especially with hexapod reptiles not existing in reality. But the series still tries to ground it's dragons by giving them shot limits and treating as well animals. Only needing you to suspend your disbelief a bit with size and behavior at times.

Continuing on just like birds and most notably reptiles, dragons throughout this series from the movies to the shows the dragons remained identical whether male or female. With no problem calling the Nadders, Gronkles, and the Red Death female dragons or ever needing to resort to changing their designs to be more stereotypically feminine. Dragons in the series don't really have a spectrum of dimorphic traits between male and female dragons like many actual reptiles. The only one that could exist based on birds and reptiles is sometimes the females are bigger than the males, or males having traits meant to attract mates such as color, though not exclusive to males and females.

So the Light Fury has shorter antenna which is what I'm calling it, less obvious scales, has rounder features, and is smaller than Toothless. This also isn't Night vs Light Fury adaptations because we see a male and female Light Fury in the movie with the male being larger, having longer antennae, and a less round appearance from what we can see. So the difference is definitely based on the fact they are a female dragon, which is disappointing since the series never did such things with any of the other dragons like Meatlug.

Continuing on it has been pointed out by others that the Light Fury's design has a while not obvious pink pattern on her, and in the center of her head it makes the shape of a pink heart. This alongside the sparkly looking skin and the rest of her design is meant to signify she's the girl dragon, while ignoring what has already been established in this world. All while playing into old and the best way to put sexist stereotypes.

Part 2

[classy-disaster]

This puts it into words!! I was so blindsided when the dragons left, it felt like the whole series just built up to nothing. And honestly, the light fury just seemed like such a half-hearted plot. Like, 'yay! Toothless got a girlfriend!' But why does he need one? None of the other dragons--to my recollection--had love stories, so why? It just seemed so pointless to me. It was as if they were like 'oh well, Hiccup is in a relationship, he's gonna be married at the end of the movie, that's gonna change their dynamic. How do we fix this? ...I've got it! obviously Toothless should be in one, too!' It feels so unnecessary.

Not to mention that literally everyone else was forced to say goodbye to their dragons. My heart broke watching Astrid take off Stormfly's saddle. Because she's always been the kind of person to do what needs to be done, so she said goodbye to her best friend, too. She and Stormfly had some of my favorite interactions throughout the series, from the scene in the second movie when they dropped Eret, to how they fought together in rtte 'blindsided'. Stormfly was the perfect match for Astrid. Watching them fight together, protect one another--Astrid taking a dragon root arrow to the leg so it wouldn't hit Stormfly, Stormfly's refusals to come after Astrid was blinded, etc.--was one of the best things about httyd for me.

And while I won't write a huge thing for each of the other riders, they were all helped by their dragons: Meatlug gave Fishlegs confidence, fighting with Barf and Belch gave Ruff and Tuff something to channel their chaos into, Hookfang gave Snotlout a sense of purpose. And they just took that all away, every single Berkian had to say goodbye to their best friend, and for what?

Aesthetically, I really did like the movie; the trilogy's animation never ceases to take my breath away, and I loved the musical scores, but when I think about httyd 3 the only thing I can really say I loved is the wedding, and I'm still disappointed that we only got like three minutes for it. I know it wasn't the point of the movie, but come on, it's Hiccup and Astrid! We watched them grow together through six movies and TV shows for a three minute wedding? They set the standard for so many kids as what to look for in a healthy relationship, including myself, they are iconic to this day, more than thirteen years after we first watched them soar on Toothless with romantic flight playing. For a three minute wedding? I understand animators and screenwriters only have a certain amount of time, but I would have loved to see more of a celebration.

I’m going to say it.

I don’t think How to Train Your Dragon 3 was good.

Not when you compare it to literally either of the other movies. Certainly not as a conclusion.

I mean, the first movie was about a boy who manages to understand a hostile dragon species and bring peace to two warring factions, which is a parallel for his relationship with his father. The second film was about how sometimes, peace has to be fought for, and Hiccup’s whole identity was in contrast with that—because while his mother ran from conflict and his father leapt at it too eagerly, he had always been the one to stop the fighting. Then he has to learn that the things we love are worth protecting. 

And after he learns that humans and dragons can learn to understand each other and coexist—after he learns that it isn’t enough to run and hide or fight out of fear, but instead you must protect the things you care about—

After those two natural, powerful progressions are clearly worked for in the first two movies—

How to Train Your Dragon 3 comes along and says “‘No actually, sometimes all it takes is one madman whom you defeated with no loss of life to convince you that the things you care about should just crawl into a very pretty hiding hole, because you don’t feel like spending the rest of your life fighting for them.”

And I can say more. Below the break. 

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[flufflyskrill]

the twitter art meme 🛸🐉

[shellysketches]

Toothless vs Skrill

[norvyarts]

I think she's neat

[psychicpinenut]

How To Train Your Dragon (2010) dir. Dean DeBlois How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (2019) dir. Dean DeBlois

[thesillay]

expert baker v2!!!!!!! the bakery has a new hire ^_^

[autumndragon]

just found out dreamworks did barf and belch's gas and spark ability the wrong way around in httyd 3. ruffnut sits on barf who breathes gas, left to the audience, but in the hidden world, barf is the one sparking

barf and belch in how to train your dragon

and here in the hidden world

(in case you think it's flipped, no, ruffnut comes out on the left, with barf, and tuffnut on the right with belch)

[thereweredragonshere]

Hi, sorry to bother you, I’m just curious why you dislike the light fury? /genuine question please i’m so curious I saw quite a bit of hate for the light fury that I just don’t quite understand

Thanks for the question! :D

I won’t go too in depth about why I dislike her, because I’d be here typing for hours, but,

I have several reasons for my dislike of the light fury, the main one being that she is a plot device.

Being a plot device on its own isn’t necessarily bad, but it’s the fact that she has no character at all other than ‘Grr I hate human, human bad I’m a female.’ This is the character I’m supposed to believe Toothless up and left Hiccup for and i can’t tell you anything about her other than she’s wild, hates humans and it’s kind of an ass.

The other main reason is her design. Bland, looks like a Pokémon and is unbearably feminine. Tiny feet that at some points are literally smaller than her pupils, smoothed out scales with little to no defined edges, smooth wing membranes (what the fuck??? Why are the parts of her that are meant to move the most so stiff???) no spikes because she’s a female!!! Can’t possibly have any sharp edges because woman!!!

Her entire character is being a girly dragon and her only purpose is to be Toothless’ girlfriend. It was a cheap ending to an amazing franchise and I will FOREVER be salty.

But I do like drawing light furies because I like making them look like they’d actually fit in universe

(And- no disrespect intended! If you like the light fury that’s great! I’m glad you do :)

[autisticfanperson]

I HATE THE FACT THAT TECHNICALLY GRIMMEL FUCKING WON. HE FUCKING WON. HE DIDNT WANT THE HUMANS AND DRAGONS TO BE TOGETHER. THE ONLY REASON ITS A TECHNICALITY IS BECAUSE GRIMMEL WANTED THEM DEAD NOT JUST GONE FOR GOOD. BUT HE STILL WON GAHHHH I AHVEJTORKAKWKAKFKSK

[countlessofvoids]

Hiccup was a runt, the most awkward, frailest guy around. He was created with the intent of being someone who's different from everyone else; both in his design and story. Someone who's weak around people who value strenght, someone who befriends dragons while others want to kill them. Hiccup makes up for his physical weakness with compassion and trying to bring peace to both sides.

Which is why in his every iteration after the first movie (+ ROB); Hiccup is a 6'1, modern beauty standart who can easily beat everyone in combat no matter how more build or/and experienced they are, unless the writers decide they need to higher the stakes, or they have other characters fight the enemy for him.

[domesticatedpigeonsoup]

WHY DID THEY GIVE TOOTHLESS A BROW LIFT LIKE-

first movie:

cute reptile, peak creature design

THIRD MOVIE AND HIS HEAD IS A CUBE, THEY MINECRAFTIFIED MY BOY

HIS EYES ARE ABOUT TO CONSUME HIS ENTIRE FACE

he looks like he uses his forehead to traffic cocaine bricks allover the archipelago

[howtowhumpyourhiccup]

Missed opportunity to have Toothless not return from his date with the Light Fury be a point of angst and the "confirmation" Hiccup needs to believe that his bond with Toothless really wasn't that special after all, so how can his other relationships be any different especially if even his own mother didn't come back for him until he went to her by accident because realistically Hiccup should be in a really bad place in THW after losing his father, his freedom, any dreams he might've had and his home in a single year.

He must feel so unloved. 3 good years don't erase potentially 15 years of bad prior to meeting Toothless. Like, he makes a joke in RoB of his dad being angry since the day he was born but that he's sure there's no correlation. Like, Hiccup genuinely makes a joke of not remembering things being any different for him as a child than they were for him when he was 15.

[flufflyskrill]

give meatlug her edgy punk bf <3

context:

[shellysketches]

Toothless sketch