#How to Train Your Dragon 3 The Hidden World

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[the-book-of-dragons]

Light Fury Design Rant Part 1

So I wanted to ramble about the odd design choice of the Light Fury from How To Train Your Dragon 3: The Hidden World. It comes off as the basic stereotypical making the female different from the males, and imposing human characteristics to animals.

So first off while the HTTYD series is fictional, especially with hexapod reptiles not existing in reality. But the series still tries to ground it's dragons by giving them shot limits and treating as well animals. Only needing you to suspend your disbelief a bit with size and behavior at times.

Continuing on just like birds and most notably reptiles, dragons throughout this series from the movies to the shows the dragons remained identical whether male or female. With no problem calling the Nadders, Gronkles, and the Red Death female dragons or ever needing to resort to changing their designs to be more stereotypically feminine. Dragons in the series don't really have a spectrum of dimorphic traits between male and female dragons like many actual reptiles. The only one that could exist based on birds and reptiles is sometimes the females are bigger than the males, or males having traits meant to attract mates such as color, though not exclusive to males and females.

So the Light Fury has shorter antenna which is what I'm calling it, less obvious scales, has rounder features, and is smaller than Toothless. This also isn't Night vs Light Fury adaptations because we see a male and female Light Fury in the movie with the male being larger, having longer antennae, and a less round appearance from what we can see. So the difference is definitely based on the fact they are a female dragon, which is disappointing since the series never did such things with any of the other dragons like Meatlug.

Continuing on it has been pointed out by others that the Light Fury's design has a while not obvious pink pattern on her, and in the center of her head it makes the shape of a pink heart. This alongside the sparkly looking skin and the rest of her design is meant to signify she's the girl dragon, while ignoring what has already been established in this world. All while playing into old and the best way to put sexist stereotypes.

Part 2

[flufflyskrill]

the twitter art meme 🛸🐉

[classy-disaster]

This puts it into words!! I was so blindsided when the dragons left, it felt like the whole series just built up to nothing. And honestly, the light fury just seemed like such a half-hearted plot. Like, 'yay! Toothless got a girlfriend!' But why does he need one? None of the other dragons--to my recollection--had love stories, so why? It just seemed so pointless to me. It was as if they were like 'oh well, Hiccup is in a relationship, he's gonna be married at the end of the movie, that's gonna change their dynamic. How do we fix this? ...I've got it! obviously Toothless should be in one, too!' It feels so unnecessary.

Not to mention that literally everyone else was forced to say goodbye to their dragons. My heart broke watching Astrid take off Stormfly's saddle. Because she's always been the kind of person to do what needs to be done, so she said goodbye to her best friend, too. She and Stormfly had some of my favorite interactions throughout the series, from the scene in the second movie when they dropped Eret, to how they fought together in rtte 'blindsided'. Stormfly was the perfect match for Astrid. Watching them fight together, protect one another--Astrid taking a dragon root arrow to the leg so it wouldn't hit Stormfly, Stormfly's refusals to come after Astrid was blinded, etc.--was one of the best things about httyd for me.

And while I won't write a huge thing for each of the other riders, they were all helped by their dragons: Meatlug gave Fishlegs confidence, fighting with Barf and Belch gave Ruff and Tuff something to channel their chaos into, Hookfang gave Snotlout a sense of purpose. And they just took that all away, every single Berkian had to say goodbye to their best friend, and for what?

Aesthetically, I really did like the movie; the trilogy's animation never ceases to take my breath away, and I loved the musical scores, but when I think about httyd 3 the only thing I can really say I loved is the wedding, and I'm still disappointed that we only got like three minutes for it. I know it wasn't the point of the movie, but come on, it's Hiccup and Astrid! We watched them grow together through six movies and TV shows for a three minute wedding? They set the standard for so many kids as what to look for in a healthy relationship, including myself, they are iconic to this day, more than thirteen years after we first watched them soar on Toothless with romantic flight playing. For a three minute wedding? I understand animators and screenwriters only have a certain amount of time, but I would have loved to see more of a celebration.

I’m going to say it.

I don’t think How to Train Your Dragon 3 was good.

Not when you compare it to literally either of the other movies. Certainly not as a conclusion.

I mean, the first movie was about a boy who manages to understand a hostile dragon species and bring peace to two warring factions, which is a parallel for his relationship with his father. The second film was about how sometimes, peace has to be fought for, and Hiccup’s whole identity was in contrast with that—because while his mother ran from conflict and his father leapt at it too eagerly, he had always been the one to stop the fighting. Then he has to learn that the things we love are worth protecting. 

And after he learns that humans and dragons can learn to understand each other and coexist—after he learns that it isn’t enough to run and hide or fight out of fear, but instead you must protect the things you care about—

After those two natural, powerful progressions are clearly worked for in the first two movies—

How to Train Your Dragon 3 comes along and says “‘No actually, sometimes all it takes is one madman whom you defeated with no loss of life to convince you that the things you care about should just crawl into a very pretty hiding hole, because you don’t feel like spending the rest of your life fighting for them.”

And I can say more. Below the break. 

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[justsomeimbicel]

The HTTYD universe's ecosystem must've been so damaged when all the dragons dissappeared.

"but people wanted to hurt them!" people want to hurt wolves to, but we don't send them all to an isolated cave because it would destroy the ecosystem.

In fact, "dragon" is just a collective word for multiple species so they really fucked themselves with that one.

In conclusion, the third movie was stupid.

[shellysketches]

The Night Lights! :D

[psychicpinenut]

How To Train Your Dragon (2010) dir. Dean DeBlois How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (2019) dir. Dean DeBlois

[norvyarts]

I think she's neat

[thesillay]

expert baker v2!!!!!!! the bakery has a new hire ^_^

[bluejulius]

petition to draw them more in their dragon armour??

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trying out a new technique, hope y’all like <33 bonus;

[toothlesstism]

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[autumndragon]

just found out dreamworks did barf and belch's gas and spark ability the wrong way around in httyd 3. ruffnut sits on barf who breathes gas, left to the audience, but in the hidden world, barf is the one sparking

barf and belch in how to train your dragon

and here in the hidden world

(in case you think it's flipped, no, ruffnut comes out on the left, with barf, and tuffnut on the right with belch)

[autisticfanperson]

I HATE THE FACT THAT TECHNICALLY GRIMMEL FUCKING WON. HE FUCKING WON. HE DIDNT WANT THE HUMANS AND DRAGONS TO BE TOGETHER. THE ONLY REASON ITS A TECHNICALITY IS BECAUSE GRIMMEL WANTED THEM DEAD NOT JUST GONE FOR GOOD. BUT HE STILL WON GAHHHH I AHVEJTORKAKWKAKFKSK

[cryptidstealingyourcreditcard]

What things in HTTYD 3 do you feel like should have been different/fixed?

OH BOY DO I HAVE SOME OPINIONS ON THIS BRACE YOURSELVES

also thank you so much for asking me

let’s start off with the characterization. first, hiccup. where did that pathetic little freakazoid from httyd 1 go??? where did his sass go?? why is he just a cookie cutter stereotypical hero now?????? and i’ll talk about the fact that he just let toothless go later.

fishlegs- it’s been a while since i watched this movie, and if im being perfectly honest i don’t remember much about him in it. but im pretty sure he was kind of just there, yk? like he wasn’t as anxious or funny or nerdy or caring or sensible as he was before. he just seemed kind of bland to me.

snotlout. this fucker. this little bitchboy. he was done so fucking dirty in this movie. why was he so pathetic???? like yeah i get making him mess up occasionally cause haha funny comedic relief. but like. he’s not helpless???? like this is the kid who was literally trained to be the perfect picture of a viking his whole life. he’s the model viking. this is the kid who single handedly took down multiple full grown outcasts on their own island with nothing but a small metal rod and spite at the age of fifteen. he won every thawfest game for years! he’s a good fighter! he’s not useless. and his personality???? GOD. WHAT THE FUCK. why is he flirting with valka, someone who is much older than him and widely viewed (out of canon) to be his aunt??? why the fuck would he say “who died and made you chief?”????? he cried at stoicks funeral! yeah, maybe he would’ve been that much of a dick in the first movie, but there have been three shows, one movie, four(?) shorts, and multiple comics since then!! he’s has so much character growth that they just threw away because haha funny. also his beef with eret was completely unnecessary like even when he was beefing with dagur at least there was some previous thing that started it. his beef with eret just came out of nowhere??

and astrid. they just turned her into the stereotypical hero’s wife. where did her personality go???? and i get the symbolization of her hair progressively getting looser as she gets less uptight and chills out and matures but like… i miss her fuckass emo bangs. give them back. her whole character isn’t supposed to exist solely to support hiccup so why is that the only thing she does in the hidden world???? justice for my girl

now. the twins. oh boy do i have some opinions here.

they were done so fuckikg dirty i’m going to crash the fuck out like why. just why.

let’s start with tuffnut.

starting strong with the fact that he loses his own twin sister who shares a whole dragon with him. then there’s his whole beard thing, which like, isn’t entirely out of character but it sure as fuck wasn’t in character either. now let’s circle back to losing ruffnut. because WHAT THE FUCK TUFF. and then when he realizes she’s gone he just says he’s more worried about her captors?????? DUDE. BRO. MY MAN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TUFFNUT WHO FAKED HIS OWN DEATH JUST SO THAT HIS SISTER WOULDNT FEEL PRESSURED TO STAY FKR HIM. WHAT HAPLENED TO THE TUFFNUT WHO, WHILE STUCK IN A DRAGON TRAP IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, HAD AN ENTIRE IMPROMPTU CONVERSATION WITH BARF ABOUT HOW RUFFNHT MAY FEEL TRAPPED AS A WOMAN IN A MANS WORLD. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE TUFFNUT WHO LOST HIS GODDAMN MIND WHEN RUFFNUT GOT CAPTURED??? WHAT HAPLENED TO THE TUFFNUT WHO HAD WHOLE ASS HUNTERS RUNNING FROM HIM SCREAMING BECAUSE THEY CAPTURED HIS SISTER???? “that’s my sister out there, astrid. and if this goes wrong, and we don’t save her, i couldn’t live with myself” MY FUCKING ASS. just like snotlout, he was so uncharacteristically insensitive it was insane.

and RUFFNUT.

MY GIRL WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU????

they literally just made her a dumb blonde. she’s not that fucking DITZY. barring httyd 2, she had never previously been boy-crazy. she’s not a flirt, she’s not thirsty, she doesn’t care about romance. and the fact that she said she “never looks back”???? WHAT???? what happened to my girl who faked a breakdown to steal a key from a guard??? what happened to the ruffnut who is constantly giving hiccup inspiration for new inventions????? the fuck do you mean you never look back???? and the fact that she thought she annoyed grimmel into letting her go?? come on ruff. you’re better than that.

and speaking of grimmel. what was that weak ass villain???? dude was just a normal guy. even johann was more intimidating than him. you will never be viggo grimborn. bitch.

and toothless. TOOTHLESS. toothless.

first of all, they flattened his nose. he’s so squished now. on top of that, they rounded his head more, gave him much more prominent brow bones, and pushed his eyes entirely too close together and made them SO square. he’s supposed to look sleek and scary, not boxy and nonthreatening.

and why is he acting like a horny dog??? he’s literally never done that before. the slobbering, and dancing with his own shadow, and ditching hiccup without a second thought was so not like him, and not in a “he’s in love” way. it was in a “the writers don’t know the character” way.

and the fact that he left hiccup once he got his tail????? there was an entire short (gift of the night fury) dedicated to hiccup giving toothless an automatic tail and toothless saying he didn’t want it, he wanted hiccup. be so fucking for real rn dreamworks.

the whole ending was just stupid asf low key

[countlessofvoids]

Hiccup was a runt, the most awkward, frailest guy around. He was created with the intent of being someone who's different from everyone else; both in his design and story. Someone who's weak around people who value strenght, someone who befriends dragons while others want to kill them. Hiccup makes up for his physical weakness with compassion and trying to bring peace to both sides.

Which is why in his every iteration after the first movie (+ ROB); Hiccup is a 6'1, modern beauty standart who can easily beat everyone in combat no matter how more build or/and experienced they are, unless the writers decide they need to higher the stakes, or they have other characters fight the enemy for him.