How people are trying to change fandom (the rise of hatred against non-canon media)
This was inspired by the rise of backlash against the "Rhysta" ship.
Traditionally throughout the history of fandom spaces on social media, a very important factor has been creativity of course. Art and Fics by fans being the backbone of a fandom. Including non-canon ships, Aus, etc. And of course there was drama (when is there not drama?) BUT there wasn't as much hate because there was an understanding that it's not REAL. People in fandoms understood creativity and thinking outside the box (canon)
But something interesting happened in 2020 with the pandemic, people who weren't apart of fandom spaces started joining cause what else were you going to do? but there started the divide. These people wouldn't have joined fandoms originally because they didn't have that sort of creativity. Which isn't a bad or negative thing, everyone is different and that what makes the world go around, but these people were not used to fandom spaces and that divergency. To them, things have to be how it was written and non-canon things, ships or au's that can't hurt you or become canon, were blasphemous. Because why change the foundation if you liked the original media? this also ties into the "why do you read or interact with this media?" questions when people engage with media in their own way even if they dislike the majority of it. which is valid to do, I do it personally with acotar. I dislike the majority of acotar from the way it's written to lots of the characters, but I interact with a certain subset of the fandom that shares a love for the same characters as I.
But these people, these mostly neurotypical, TikTok people, intrude into these safe creative spaces and cause a ruckus over non-canon Aus and ships. for no reason! Ships like Rhysta are harmless, of course people who make and consume this media don't think it's going to be real, and that's the misconception! Making and consuming non-canon media doesn't mean you think it's going to happen or want it to happen, it's just existing. existing for the sake of existing and stretching creative muscles. You can't grow as an artist if you do not break from the mold, from the restraints of canon.
What you are doing by constantly harassing and posting shit about non-canon media is showing you lack a fundamental understanding of Fandom. Policing what people do is a fruitless endeavor. of course, calling out actually problematic creators is okay, when what they're doing is actually harmful and not them being creative or God forbid, a little weird.
There has been and still needs to be respect in the places. Filtering tags for things that upset you and blocking creators you disagree with is key to being someone people will actually listen to and respect. If you refuse to do that, no one you harass, or attack will take you seriously. and maybe that's not your objective but that means you're going to be blocked on main and made fun of. And this segment is somewhat targeted at someone who has been consistently harassing my mutuals, but I've seen so many people like this and it's a real issue. And its such an issue in Booktok popular books and shows, and media that becomes popular with the masses.
Fandom spaces aren't meant to follow canon to a T. People will have non-canon ships, opinions on how they think the series should have gone, opinions on characters, etc. Constantly harassing and targeting creators won't change that.
I know this won't stop this behavior, it will continue to happen but it's been bothering me and maybe this will change some people's minds on how they interact with the media they like, and they hate.
I love rhysta, I think that the dynamic is very interesting and that people are free to explore that and say whatever they want about how it could have gone in canon. None of that means i think its going to happen or that it should. Lord, people are just having fun. Like they should in fandom places.
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im a big fan of the "dont just listen to what people online tell you, do your own research" crowd but at the same time i wish people would also advice to actually learn HOW to do research... the amount of people citing papers to justify the insane conclusions they jumped to is increasing and its soo dangerous jfc heres one of the most basic aspects of research interpretation: CORRELATION DOES NOT!!!!!!!! EQUAL CAUSATION!!!!!!!!!!! thank u
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its ok u work miracles i literally did NONE of kawakamis link in p5 because i got weird vibes about it and i did do Toirumi's in p3fes but the Goo as you said . but its ok im a kawakami truther now. my friends told me about her sl im so invested in her epic adventures with gamer girl . you can fix them and their Goo god bless
god i know... ive heard this from my friends too im like. yea Listen ... the initial buy-in is so high. you really have to cross that mental threshold of Weird. and you know its a persona game too so in the back of your mind youre like "this will nooooot be normaaaal i Just Know It". but you gotta do it...you gotta call her back...for her confidant unlocks
HRBDJBJHG no but (raised eyebrow emoji) aside, yea her story core is so good im glad your friends've been filling u in on the bits that matter 😌 it's very painful for me that she's saddled with the burden of "being an adult woman in a persona game" as if she hasnt suffered enough already. sick and twisted atlus behavior AS USUAL!!! 🗣
whatever....she's earned a gamer gf ........ their shared agonies....
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core babes i jsut got my wisdom teeth taken out today and i did like a theee day cleanse before the surgery of pineapple juice (i actually misread the label and it was pineapple AND orange juice) but it actually worked like i still look like a baddie…..TO ANYONE WHOS GETTING THEIR WISDOM TEETH OUT DRINK PINEPAPPLE JUVIE AND THANK TIK TOK🙏🙏🙏
also it hurts really bad but i’m thugging it out with my meds 🗿🗿
Damn wish I knew this when I got my wisdom teeth out when I was 16 lmfao wishing you a speedy recovery!
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okay spitting
i'm losing my mcfreaking mind why are they having the evil guy say this with the tinkly evil music. this is fucking true
"stop using my face to say such bullshit!" YOU LITERALLY AGREED WITH THIS FIVE SECONDS AGO? AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CHAPTER YOU SAID YOU STILL THOUGHT DANTE'S METHODS WERE BAD. I'M oh my god. oh my god.
eiden i love you so much but what the fuck. maybe if you grew a backbone and said this to him yourself instead of leaving your surprisingly based evil twin to do it you wouldn't have this problem.
god i am so tired of the narrative of this game repeatedly telling eiden he's stupid and wrong. especially since (besides yakumo and blade) it's always the tops that he has to "learn a lesson" from, and the lesson is always "shut up and mind your own business, you're a naive little idiot who doesn't understand how the world works and needs us to protect you" -- i don't know, that just seems incredibly gross and paternalistic and bottom-shaming-y.
eiden is fucking smart! he's smart and kind and caring and so good with people and knowing their needs, he's creative and resourceful from his time as an orphan, he's understanding and compassionate to an EXTREME fault, like a really really annoying fucking fault. any one of these assholes should count themselves lucky to get advice from him, but good GOD, especially fucking dante.
it's SO stupid. DANTE IS LITERALLY WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING. and the story just treats him as if he's just a little bit of an unconventional ruler teehee for living in luxury while providing nothing to scads of starving children roaming the streets, telling everyone who's poor that they probably deserve it for being too useless to make money, and HAVING AN ARMY OF CHILD SOLDIERS. aside from the idiocy of excusing all that it's also a bizarre disregard for the story structure of games like these. dante didn't learn fucking anything from meeting eiden. he didn't even apologize to the orphan kids, he just did the same thing he did with the butler, "well, these specific starving children have proved their worth to me, so I'll give them a good life, but the rest of them can foad i guess," which is. exactly what he would have done in that situation. if he had never met eiden in the fucking first place. what has DANTE done to prove himself to EIDEN? of course he would like eiden, eiden is bending over backwards and twisting himself into a pretzel to try to understand him, but what has dante given back? mediocre dick and authoritarianism? he's useless. by dante's own logic, eiden should leave him to die alone.
tl;dr fake eiden is based, erolabs learn to write a character arc for tops challenge (impossible)
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Actually sorry I need to bitch and moan about this. I've been reading the san.dman (do not ever do this to yourself it's a hell unimaginable by anyone) and like... I really think it's interesting how much ga/iman is praised as super progressive on Tumblr for THIS specifically when it has so so much bad in it. About 10 issues in I started a game with how many women were in the issue who survived/were raped/nearly raped and it was insane how little women did not fit into these categories. One black woman lived and the rest were all burned alive. And he then later gave an excuse that it was bc of how Dream imprisoned Nada (16 year old African queen who fell in love with him. Its a very big mess and really sucks) in Hell so of course it influenced the entire world and so every black woman but ONE (who was introduced in the second to last issue) died and died violently. Not even to get into how it plays into the really violent misogyny that he had during the short story he wrote around the end of San.dman (when he was in his mid 30s) that was literally just one graphic rape scene to a minor after another (his snow white retelling is pretty infamous bc of how bad it is just by the summary but let me tell you that it is FAR worse to read). Like there's so so much that I think people do not discuss with his writing and it honestly just is very baffling that people hype him up given well. Everything that happens in San.dman. like the endless alone has a lot of... Well let's say interesting issues. Every single woman dream comes across wants to fuck him (to the point that at his funeral, it's 90% the women he was with/wanted to be with him and then a little from his siblings????), despairs entire character is literally just that she's depressed and coincidentally the most prominent fat character (and also naked all the time. Which they did seem to fix in the show but it's baffling how it's like her, one serial killer who nearly raped a woman before dream stops him, a guy that dies and I guess Abel if you squint for the fat rep) and then desire oh my god. I wish desire was written well instead of here's our nonbinary/gender fluid/genderless rep (cool in theory!!!) and then the fact that it (in the original series, she uses he she and it pronouns) raped a woman is dropped on your head and he is not at all regretful about it and ends up like.. taunting the victims granddaughter??? And delirium my god if there was ever a representation for born sexy yesterday and also being weird as fuck about mental illness it would be her. She's barely clothed most of the time, referred to as very very young most of the time and her mental illness (vague) is just kind of used as a joke a lot of the time? Like it's a funny joke that she doesn't remember stuff or that she's overstimulated or that she's using the wrong words or talking like a child. It's really weird because all of these characters have potential but they aren't really ever treated that way. Me when I get him for every single woman treated horribly!!!!!
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every time gale is like "ohhh surely you have called out to mystra once or twice as a sorcerer--" I just picture a sort of record scratch scene where lakhesis stares at him in silence for a solid 5 minutes as he gets increasingly uncomfortable remembering that she, in fact, was raised by a cult dedicated to malyk in the underdark. lakhesis vc brother gale I dont even pray to that fucker let alone a PRISS like MYSTRA-- [instantly smited]
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