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@bladekindeyewear submitted: You've noticed something important: Everyone seems to have come down with the SAME items that John gave them on their birth meteors. That means that excluding some incredible shenanigans, the ectobiology that created the kids only happened ONCE, and we're unlikely to see some weird repeat. John did it. In his session. Before the Scratch. Have you noticed the problem yet? In the Trolls' session, all of the ectobiology was done by KARKAT. In a session we now know was a POST-SCRATCH one. p=4053:

The Pre-Scratch trolls were forced to invoke the Scratch to even be BORN. And Lord English is somehow responsible. And this is apparently Lord English's "calling card". Utterly terrifying.

Yup. English's 'already-hereness' applies to more than just his physical presence, it seems!

Anonymous asked: I believe I sent an ask some time ago, regarding my eagerness towards seeing you take on my favorite character. At the time, I noted that their introduction was still a ways off, but now the moment is just about at hand and I couldn't possibly be more thrilled. Happy blogging, and welcome to Act 6! ^u^

Thank you! You're presumably talking about one of the new Players, and their introduction has certainly been a lot of fun for me so far. For the first time in forever, we're getting a new set of protagonists!

@sanctferum asked: seems like nobody has mentioned it yet, but 10/25, the day Cascade came out (and one of Homestuck's arc numbers, with 1025 being what you get when adding 413 and 612 together), was christened "Gristmas" by the fandom. Intermission 2, meanwhile, was (very fittingly) a Halloween upd8. Act 6 started on 11/11/11, so the arc number there is various configurations of 1 or 11. Truly the most important thing to happen on 11/11/11 and let neither man nor tod say otherwise.

Gristmas is pretty great - and thank you, I'll keep an eye out for long strings of ones. I imagine that we'll be seeing one on Jane's Cruxtruder, at the very least.

Anonymous asked: I'm surprised that no one pointed out that Hussie describing the story of the Troll Ancestors as Fanfiction is actually an accurate accusation In-Universe. As after, Doc Scratch took the trolls' original story, and rewrote it into how he wanted it to go. Anonymous asked: If you think about it, since Scratch is responsible for Alternia being such a hellhole when it originally wasn't, it is technically his "troll fanfiction".

Oh, I like that. Scratch is, after all, both the instigator and the narrator of the Ancestors' fucked-up lives, which does indeed put him in a position akin to that of a fanfiction writer. This Scratch-as-author stuff has layers, huh?

@manorinthewoods asked: If it was Bec's put-Jade-to-bed instincts that caused her revival, then Vriska's abuse of Jade to practice her powers on humans was the reason Jade survived Act 5. ~LOSS (9/1/24)

Good point, actually - but fucking hell, don't tell her that. You already know how insufferable she'd be about it.

Anonymous asked: Unsure if it was simply not mentioned, but in case you missed it there are two other messages on Jane's computer: Submit and Cease Reproduction

So there are.

CEASE REPRODUCTION, in particular, makes a lot of sense, now that I think about it. After all, I doubt the Condesce actually wants to rule over humanity; instead, she probably wants to exterminate them, so that they can be replaced with a brand-new cohort of trolls.

@joyfulldreams asked: Detective Pony is absolutely a masterwork of fanfiction. It has the original version on AO3, an equally excellent podfic by NakedBee, and then the podfic was later adapted by NakedBee into a full feature-length film. It has basically Legend status and in some ways has been partially(???) canonized because of how widely regarded it is by the fandom at large to be Legit. There is also a similar fic called Theatre of Coolty, a fanfic written in the format of a play, which I believe was written by the same person who voice acted DS in the Detective Pony podfic (DuckFace, I think) which NakedBee adapted into a short film. Recommend watching Theatre of Coolty before touching Detective Pony, tbh, it's much shorter and more easily digestible. (Both are EXTREMELY DENSE TEXTS.) Also you probably shouldn't touch either until you've finished Act 6, unfortunately. Theatre of Coolty has a minor spoiler for something pretty late in Act 6, and while Detective Pony doesn't TECHNICALLY have any REAL spoilers as-is (the movie has visuals that could be considered more spoilery), the entire thing is basically a deep dive into DS's character and you really ought to understand DS better before getting into it. (You don't even know his name yet!) @creamcloud0 asked:I don't know if it's what you were implying in your tags but i would absolutely LOVE seeing your dissection of Detective Pony. @heliotropopause asked: since we're doing this, The Serendipity Gospels should now also be spoiler-free, though i haven't double-checked, nor read the unfinished act three that's only available on tumblr. and yeah, very much seconded on sonnetstuck's Detective Pony- it'd spoil DS's name if you read it right now, along with maybe one other thing that'll get revealed soon, but it should be fine to read quite soon, and is one of the absolute best fanworks i've ever read. there's also a very high quality hours-long puppet theatre video adaptation of it made by someone else, but the visuals there contain spoilers up to pretty much the very end of the comic. ben-guy asked: The detective pony fic is absolutely still full of spoilers, if only for later kid bro characterization @pechikka asked: Im gonna be real. I don't even think of Detective Pony as a fanwork. To me it's just part of Homestuck's extended quasicanon to the same degree the epilogues are, and a crucial part of how I read kid bro as a character. It's THAT spot on to the characters and themes of Homestuck itself and it's a fascinating read. For obvious reasons tho that does means I absolutely cannot recommend anyone read it until kid bro has been introduced and has had a long while to be established as a character. @publicuniversalworstie asked: Seconding the Detective Pony recommendation as hard as I can, but I'd recommend saving it for after you finish the main comic at least. It's essentially a D-Stri character study. @hussianphilosopher submitted: There's really only one Hussie quote that matters.

(Thirding or fourth-ing or fifth-ing the Detective Pony recs, though I would argue that you need to wait a while before you read it - you need to meet teen-Bro and have seen quite a bit of him to actually get what it's going for.) Hussie's commentary is really interesting and deserves to be read if you like the comic, but the most recent and (in my opinion) most enlightening parts pretty much assume that you've read the Epilogues. If and when you're ever interested it's all wrapped up in the Homestuck Unofficial Collection.

I'm moving Detective Pony up on the list, because this all sounds amazing. We already know from the Auto-Responder conversation that Kid Bro is a pretty weird dude, so a deep dive into his character via a horse girl parody sounds like a hell of a time.

As for The Serendipity Gospels, if I can vet it completely for spoilers, it might finally be time for my first fanfiction analysis. After all, I've been waiting for this one for years.

Anonymous asked: How many doomed timelines have Sally and Sahlee made from their continued insistence on trying to break the Incipisphere even after seeing how utterly fucked they'd be from attempting that?

Less than you'd think, honestly. They'd definitely make a few, especially in the first days of the session, but once they start to understand how Doomed Timelines worked, they'd probably try to ensure their experiments were less destructive.

That's not to say they'd stop trying to violate the Alpha Timeline - but it does mean they'd be smarter about it, potentially abusing systems like the Scratch to create some additional non-doomed timelines. I can't tell you where their experiments would lead, though - not until I'm more familiar with Sburb's deeplore myself.

@elkian asked: Obviously Jake types on the coat sleeves, Power Glove-style xD @thelegendofgreg-2 asked: "Jake, for god's sake. How are you typing on a coat?" I am choosing to believe right now as of this very moment that every single one of the rainbow flashing boxes on the lining of his coat is a teeny tiny computer screen, and he has a keyboard hidden under one of the arms of his coat It's very practical

I do think that the sleeves are the best choice here - but I also like the idea that his clawed slipper is an integral part of the setup, with buttons on the soles that he needs to shift his weight to press. A shift key, perhaps?

This thing's just so awesomely impractical. Grandma Jade was a real one.

@library-seraph asked: "Michael Cera's a strange choice for one of these portraits. He's neither a harlequin, nor a gentleman, and thus doesn't really fit Dad's normal aesthetic." This is a fandom injoke, actually. So many people joked that the guy wearing the groucho glasses in the egbert house's hallway looked like michael cera despite it not being him, that Hussie decided to shout out the meme

Ah, that makes sense.

Sometimes, I wonder how many of the comic's 'confusing' moments are actually fandom in-jokes that I don't have the context to understand. To get that context, I need these messages, so keep 'em coming!

Anonymous asked: it truly is like, the greatest jape of all that your blog popularity is coinciding with the tumblr fanbase popularity of homestuck

No kidding? I wasn't aware there was an uptick in the fandom's Tumblr presence, but I'm happy to hear it!

The last thing I want to do is finish the comic, stroll into the fandom, and discover that it died before I was ready to engage with it. Not that that wouldn't be kind of funny.

@elkian asked: Possibly one of the funniest things about the Alpha Reboot here is finding out Jane, of her familysquad if not the humans as a whole (depending on how sincere Rose was about her taxidermy Jaspers rage) who has a problem with embalment. Everyone else has been involved in the taxidermy or other preservation of some kind of corpse; I was gonna exclude Bro but then remembered the horsebib.

Jane, Homestuck's primary cast is all weird as fuck. You need to get with the program.

@abysswarlock asked: AR to Jake: “Here’s your problem”

Jake's response:

Anonymous asked: while not that big of a deal on the grand scheme of things, the revelation that rose gets her eloquence and wordiness from her father is perhaps my favorite revelation in all of hs.

I like it too! Based on what Bro was like with Dave, I expect his kidsona to be the strong, silent type, but - assuming he's as chatty as AR - I really like Hussie's decision to make him a yapper.

It feels right, somehow - and I hope it means that he's the one who wrote this session's GameFAQs guide.

Anonymous asked: One of my favorite bits of the Auto-responder's replys to Jake is the % of how close the responses are to Bro's goes down as Jake catches on, dude is having the time of his life messing with him

This guy really is hilarious. He's honestly going to be a pretty tough act for the real Little Bro to follow.

Anonymous asked: ive sent an ask like this in the early days. but il say i have never been so extraordinarily possessed by a 2014 era fan of homestuck in its UPD8 era than i have been waiting all these days for the D Stri inteoduction chatlog. for reasons i am almost betting many may have expressed in this inbox already Anonymous asked: Every update you post convinces me harder that you're going to absolutely love kid bro Anonymous asked: So fucking excited for you to start analyzing kid bro it has me twirling my hair. I barely even have enough hair to twirl this is a high compliment. So excited

...that said, people have pretty high hopes for the impression he's going to make!

I'm sure that whatever vibe I get from him, one thing is already clear: he's clearly recognized as the post-Scratch kid, the Vriska of his team. His introduction is getting the most hype of any character outside of Hivebent.

Anonymous asked: "Though we adore Him we shall never enjoy His beauteous croak. We spill our blood on acres of black and white so they may cross the yellow yard. At last in Skaia's reflection through broken glass He may find the pond in which he's meant to squat." - A Prospitan book in [S] Seer: Descend.

Hey, you're right - this passage does make a lot more sense in retrospect. I guess the implication here is that Jade's frog might still be the designated Genesis Frog in the post-Scratch session...

This gels well with Umbra's earlier statement implying that Jade & co. will be slotted into the new session as Players. It also means the post-Scratch humans might not need a Space Player, since Jade can still fill that role as before.

...yeah, it's looking more and more likely that Jane's team will wield completely different Aspects to their predecessors. I honestly prefer this to the alternative, since it'll allow us to get up close and personal with four Aspects that we've previously only seen in the abridged Hivebent session - or, potentially, four Aspects we've never seen at all.

Anonymous asked: "Poppop in the attic" is a reference to the TV show Arrested Development. In one episode, Michael Cera's character is harboring his fugitive grandfather in the attic of his home. He attempts to inform his dad but he misinterprets "poppop" as a euphemism for sex or masturbation. @skelekingfeddy asked: ‘the mere fact you call it that tells him youre not ready’ is just reference to arrested development lol. basically the kid michael cera plays is hiding his grandpa/‘poppop’ in the attic away from the feds. later he tries to tell his dad but due to earlier misunderstandings he thinks ‘poppop’ is actually referring to having sex with his girlfriend. and so he tells michael cera ‘the mere fact you call making love poppop tells me youre not ready’ the auto-responder's line ‘since we've already shot that wad's eventuality on so many dry runs of flustered ambivalence’ is also an arrested development reference, albeit a much more subtle one (the original line is just ‘i prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run if you will’) @random2908 asked: Maybe others mentioned this already, but the stuff about Poppop and the attic is a quote from the tv show Arrested Development. There's a bit where Poppop is hiding in the attic, only Michael Cera knows he's there, and his father is trying to give him a sex talk and misinterprets "poppop" as a euphemism. It's been a while, but IIRC Hussie makes a few Arrested Development references in early Act 6; fans speculated at the time that they must have just watched the show for the first time.

Ah. I've never seen Arrested Development myself, so it's kind of wild to see a teenage Michael Cera for the first time. People say he has a baby face now, but he actually was a baby, here.

Anonymous asked: The dads aren't clones their eyes are completely different colors :P

Turns out one of them's left-handed, and that's literally the only difference.

@wickedsick asked: RoLal my beloLal @morganwick asked: "Huh, we're approaching the halfway mark of the comic and I haven't met Roxy yet. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's Mom Lalonde's name, but it hasn't come up. How could she make such an impact that I'd have heard her name before starting Homestuck despite only really appearing in half- oh. That's how." @abundantchewtoys asked: You try to control yourself and not overhype Roxy, but the S-tier on your tierlist… it beckons. @necrowyrm asked: So hyped for you to get to know Roxy, the greatest character in homestuck by a mile @elkian asked: God I'm so excited for you to meet Roxy. I'm pretty sure you'll love her for multiple reasons.

I can't wait! Like I said, I think she's very likely to be one of my faves. Hackers play with with an unfair advantage in the Sally Sweepstakes.

@manorinthewoods submitted: https://www.tumblr.com/darks-arts/757253456235053056/got-inspired-by-this-post-n-made-a-new-troll?source=share ~LOSS (1/15/25)

Don't get it twisted - this is who the Condesce picks as her VP.

@mrjocrafter asked: Any Bro Strider (and to some extent every Strider) analysis needs to be tempered by the acknowledgement that that's just what Texas is like. Like, one time I saw someone hold up a self-driving taxi at sword point. Texas is just like that.

Apart from a three-day childhood trip to New York City, the USA is a closed book to me - but I've heard enough wild shit about Texas that I don't think you're kidding.

@carcinogeneticist-writes-fanfic submitted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuNgQEWgjwk Submitted for your approval: a full orchestra cover of Sburban Jungle. Possibly my favorite fan work of one of my favorite homestuck songs. Really captures that epic feel of the original song.

Dang. This fire burns hotter than the Green Sun.

@dedicatedfollower467 asked: i'm sure lots of people will have told you this, OR you will have figured it out yourself by the time you read this, but where DNA uses guanine, cytosine, adenine and thymine to represent information, its counterpart, RNA, actually uses a base called uracil in place of thymine. Meaning that uranianUmbra manages to both break the troll/kids naming pattern AND fit in it, in a slightly different way. UwU Anonymous asked: Concerning UU: Uracil (U) is a nucleotide that replaces Thymine (T) in RNA, which makes UU an -- at least in theory -- valid base pair. Compare this to how their chat symbol is a caduceus, and the constellation Ophiucus (traditionally, Apollo battling a pair of serpents) is sometimes considered the thirteenth Zodiacal sign. Anonymous asked: Fun Biochemistry Fact: (Almost) All the players using a combination of GCAT in their names is a reference to the 4 amino acids found in DNA (guanine, cytosine, adenine and thymine). The exception is John (EB), but who originally used GT only to change due to the trolls' interference. However, RNA, which 'reads' DNA to perform biological functions, uses Uracil (U) instead of thymine. I hope this helps your theorizing about UU! @3dgftw asked: belated congratulations on making it to act 6! from biologist to coder- the letter “U” is almost as important as GCAT in biology, and for a related reason! while G, C, A, and T are the most common nucleic acids, they’re not the only ones around! uracil (U) replaces T when RNA is transcribed, and this substitution is one of the reasons why it’s so unstable, comparatively. that, and the fact that RNA is a single stranded polymer, while DNA is double-stranded. it’s quite the headache for me- sometimes it feels like my RNA will degrade if I look at it wrong!

Huh. So the pattern arguably does still hold, for now - but since uracil is a component of RNA, rather than DNA, there's still an implication that UU is 'different' from our GCAT heroes in some fundamental way. What the hell is up with this girl?

Anonymous asked: The symbol that was similar to the Rod of Asclepius is the Caduceus, the symbol of Hermes (who I think is Asclepius' father?). Interestingly enough, the symbols are often confused with each other, which has led to medical organisations using the Caduceus instead of the Rod. I'm sure you already know, but if you don't, Hermes was the Messenger of the Gods, and patron of a lot of things, most notably travelers and thieves. Anonymous asked: Caduceus anon here. Small correction on my last ask, Asclepius was the son of Apollo, not Hermes. @likelyvampirical asked: Although both have been used in the medical profession, that symbol is actually the Caduceus, a symbol of Hermes, rather than the Rod of Asclepius. Although, the origin of the use of the Caduceus as a medical symbol is also thought to be mistaken symbology, so I suppose it's fitting.

It's possible that Hussie intended it to be the symbol for medicine, and simply got the reference wrong, but it's impossible to say for sure.

The thing certainly looks more like a caduceus to me, but I don't know what it would mean for UU to be Hermes-themed. Maybe she's a Player, and Hermes is her Denizen?

@skelekingfeddy asked: ok, some context on UU: basically, for more than a year the fandom had been theorizing about a SECRET 13TH TROLL. it started out as people pointing out that there were 4 kids and 12 trolls, so a 13th extra troll would make it so that it’s 4/13. then people realised, oh shit, there actually is a 13th extra zodiac named Ophiucus (one of the proposed symbols for which is the caduceus)! people even decided that their handle’s initials would be UU (because of Uracil, the fifth nucleotide base). the theory got so big, Toby even made a theme for UU as a bonus track in his Alternia solo album… …and now, in late 2011, here she is in the comic itself!!! she has the name, the zodiac symbol, everything. what’s her deal? you’ll just have to wait and see :)

That's good context to have, but I still have no idea what the implications are. It really doesn't feel like the trolls could have had a secret thirteenth Player stashed away somewhere, and we already know the pre-Scratch Alternian session was a twelve-Player one, too. Curiouser, curiouser and curiouser.

@aceotaku asked: random: it's only natural PM and Jack Noir were fated to be archenemies of sorts. After all, what is a dog's natural enemy according to cartoons without any real reason?

lmao, does this mean Jack's going to defeat PM by biting her ankle off?

@spiddermen asked: fun homestuck fact: shortly after homestuck ended, hussie came out as clowngender. everyone assumed this was just a bad joke for a while but it was not, hussie is nonbinary and one of the things I like about this second half of homestuck is that you can see them starting to critique the idea of gender roles a lot which I think is interesting. once they stopped working on homestuck they wrote psycholonials which explores these ideas and their thoughts on online society a lot more, it's really good

I heard about this recently, yeah! Apparently the official What Pumpkin press releases have switched to they/them for Hussie - who, if I'm not mistaken, uses any pronouns. Kind of based, honestly.

I'm surprised that this hasn't come up before, given how much the comic likes to delve into gender. I guess I just don't talk about things too much from an out-of-universe perspective, except to offer Doylist explanations for otherwise confusing plot developments.

@aceotaku asked: Your theory of Doc Scratch's Omniscience being based around meta knowledge of the author is incredibly clever and interesting and works really well especially with what we see of Scratch and Hussie after you made that theory. I also wanna bring up how he's my favourite villain in homestuck (I like his dark charisma and tendency to manipualte people while being upfront about his motives, goals and nature which i find unique) and am saddned by the many livebloggers who seem to genuinely hate him.

Oh yeah, I think Doc Scratch is great.

I kind of love to hate him, if that makes sense. He's totally awful, of course - but he's awful in a really fascinating way, that I haven't often seen in fiction. Above all, he's always entertaining to read.

@abibeur asked: One thing I like with the Betty Crocker propaganda is the obvious They Live reference, even if I didn't get it at my first reading. Jane Nada would be really funny… Even if there's another likely candidate to play a character with cool shades!

I picked up on the reference to They Live - but since I haven't seen the movie, I'm not really sure about the exact mechanics of the movie's iconic propaganda-revealing shades. One for the watch pile, for sure.

@abibeur asked: "Apparently his goofy lil' wave is a universal constant." This reminds me of another master of the wind…

Now that's a real Breath Player.

@calcamity asked: im rereading your liveblog for fun since youve reached act 6 (which features my favorite character) and i just have to say you have a great understanding of the characters. all of your pesterchum screenshot bits are (terminally funnily) in character. you could write some baller hs fanfic

Well, thank you very much!

I'm definitely going to at least write a fic involving my 'sonas, when I'm done. If I do have other ideas, though, I could easily end up writing some more canon-adjacent fiction, too. We'll see!

Anonymous asked: is jake english in the newtonverse called hass, just to tie this whole joke together? maybe the newtonverse is where the felt is the varnish instead, and hes like… hass brusher or whatever

Hass Brusher is too good. That one's 100% canon to the Newtonverse now.

@carcinogeneticist-writes-fanfic asked: New reader here who just caught up, congrats on making it to the EOA5! What was your favorite song of the four featured in Cascade? Savior of the Dreaming Dead is a top-tier personal favorite of mine, not just here or even in its album but in the entire Homestuck discography, and one of the songs I was most hoping would make it into the comic proper (not that you have to worry about that, I can def respect not wanting to hear any of the songs 'out of context' beforehand). Good luck with Act 6!

It probably was Savior of the Dreaming Dead, to be honest. It really sells how triumphant Jade's big moment was.

I also loved the section of the track that played during the Perfect Mendicant's transformation. The scene was already epic, but those chords knocked it into twelfth gear.

@krixwell asked: Curiously, as its card was stamped in the punch designix and used to alchemize a worn old hat, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias was "Oh no, not again."

Oh, that is a great pull. I need to reread the Hitchhiker's Guide series again sometime soon.

Anonymous asked: I never made the connection that Aradia's voices could have been coming from the Haidmaid before, but that fits so perfectly. I'm just imagining her summoning up a bunch of ghosts to constantly haunt Aradia and whisper exactly what she "needs" to hear.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking! I don't know if she'd have revealed herself in person, but she was absolutely behind that particular plot.

@aliceoverzero asked: I discovered this blog just before New Years and it's been an incredible binge-read. You've probably noticed by now that Homestuck is one of the most extreme cases of "you can never repeat the experience of reading it for the first time" due to the structures of its mysteries, and this was further amplified by the original reader experience including maddening wild speculation in between each wait for new pages to drop. Your deliberate pace with this liveblog and your willingness to slam the brakes to hyperfixate on details is the closest a returning reader can get to recapturing that feeling, and it's been a good reminder for me about why this comic has been so impactful to me. Thank you for doing this. Now that you've cleared Act 5, it's worth bringing up that while not present in the original panel where the declaration is made, the "most important character in homestuck" moment is expanded in Cascade to show that it includes both Lil Cal and Gamzee. This has prompted a lot of debate about which of them is actually being referred to as the most important character. Also now it's possible to talk about my favorite detail about Doc Scratch. His repeated use of the statement "I am an excellent host" has finally revealed its double-meaning. @leo60228 asked: so, what do you think about the alternate angle we saw the "The most important character in Homestuck fondly regards the miracle of a new beginning." panel from? @elkian asked: You may have received such a comment already, but during the "most important character in Homestuck" scene, Lil Cal was in Gamzee's lap. Either way you slice it, it's correct, but it's interesting to speculate which is meant. (Though ig one also requires considering Cal as a CHARACTER which is a bit unsettling…) Anonymous asked: Jade's laboratory falling seems to mirror Lord English's arrival. Also, in [S] Cascade you can see that Lil' Cal is also watching this happen. Does that make him the most important character in homestuck? @morganwick asked: In light of Cascade and Intermission 2, you might want to consider whether, now that you've seen the "miracle of a new beginning" moment in fuller context, the "most important character in Homestuck" might not have been referring to Gamzee after all…

Thank you!

And... uh, hang on a second. Do you mean what I think you mean?

...ah, fuck.

[johnegbertlover413]

Alotta peoole, especially June fans, act like homestuck is ABOUT queer people, NO. ITS NOT. It never was and it was never planned to be.

Homestuck STRICTLY and obviously about ISOLATION. It’s litterly in the god damn TITLE. And of course u can be isolated because of gay but most of the characters aren’t honestly. Saving John for last,

Rose matured quickly but superficially so she doesn’t trust anyone

Dave is a horrible person so no one wants to be around him

Jane suffers constant assassination attempts to the point she can’t leave the house and falls back into Crocker corp as something safe, ending uo very skeptical (doesn’t help that Roxy, Crocker corp hater, is one of them seriously wtf)

I don’t think I need to explain the other kids

Karkats a mutant and can’t let anyone know

Kanaya is the antithesis to troll culture

Aradia fucking died and lost all feeling then was physically separated by a metal robot

Vriska has spider mom and other influences that cause her to ruin allll her relationships

Terezi has her attachment to vriska messing with her other relationships

I don’t feel like doing all of it but Even characters that don’t matter as much to the overall story have the same fuckung themeeee

Feferi has to constantly hide as to not be culled by condy to not take tha thrown

Eridan gets no hoes

I brought up June earlier because NONE OF HER “““““FANS”””””” UNDERSTAND THE SOURCE OF HER LONENES. They make it about her being transsss uwu which isn’t in the text at alllll and never will be no matter how you read into a one off line of dialogue.

It feels like they are doing it JUST to give John truama uwu because they can’t understand what makes characters sympathetic without it. Not even with out it just without them constantly whining about how much they suffer soooo much. They need to act like dad Egbert was some evil patriarcy man who forced june into a MAN NO EMOTION NO FEELING role (despite the fact he constantly pours his heart out about how much he loves John). At best theyll portray “June” as just going after her father’s role because she’s grieving and dysphoria and uhm blah blah blah or something which also is insanely retarded because it’s a straight forward lie.

But anyway it’s all ignoring the fact that JOHN EGBERT IS THE MOST AUTISTIC CHARACTER IN EXISTENCE.

I swear hussie himself could have put fucking books on autism in dads study, transcribe the whole thing, specifically specify Taht they are to Better understand John n bitches would be like “ooooooh he’s ignoring his child’s obvious gender dysphoria and blaming it on AUTISM. Classic abusive parent smh”

Lemme list out every single autistic traits n experiences show in my beatiful goddess princess Johnathan Egbert. I love lists

-he has big explosive reactions to things deemed as trivial by other characters but matter so much to him (Betty Crocker, how he thinks about his father blah blah) also referred to as tantrums by other characters despite technically not fitting the criteria and fitting in much more with melt downs (like he doesn’t liek Betty Crocker so he freaks out when a food he likes IS BETTY CROCKER)

-his reactions to more major events are much more low-key . His dad’s a business man? Curled up on the bed horrified. Dads dead? Oh no. He’s still very sad he just lashes out in other ways, the whole ship melt down n avoiding processing it by focusing on his special interests(like how he started to hate con air)

-he very clearly has special interests as mentioned last point. He rants to Kanaya (my favorite page) and meenah about Mathew McConaughey and paranormal lore respectively Not really caring/ noticing that neither of them give a fuck.

-he is really gullible like he’ll go along with what rose says and with what terezi says 1 to 1 because he doesn’t really think like that. The most obvious answer is vriska, she was 100% using him against terezi but he doesn’t really understand that EVER even when he realizes that she’s crazy he doesn’t realize that vriska was toatluu using him. Not to say vriska doesnt likeeee john ever but they basically fuckung say that their realatiojship started out as daverezi envy.

-he is the most uo front of all the kids. Not THAT Crazy for general people but he doesn’t really hide any of his emotions beyond just not being able to process them and compared to litterly every other character it’s noteable

Before yoh freaks say it I’m not saying June can’t exist because John’s autistic. YOU are just applying johns very fucking obvious traits to transness that both makes those traits miserable (his special interests and bluntness being covers or whatever) and erases johns ore existing character

Nothing wrong with having a non cannon head cannon you don’t have to make it retroactively cannon! Stop eith the delusions !!!

[cgtg]

if u could redesign one hs character who would u do and what would u do

gonna sound lame but i think they all look rlly good i think hussie is gud @ effective character design within a heavily limited style presentatiom. i swear this isnt a copout its gen how i feel

dose it count that id make it so rose gets to keep her style post-godtier. actually id just make it so they all still get 2 rock diff outfits post-godtier. get them out those jammies

actualy fuck it id make it more obvious that john n karkat r wearing belts on their og outfitz liek in the hs beta so everyone starts drawing them in high waist pants w the shirts tuckd in. funny 2 me.

thanx 4 asking :) i 4got abt the part where u said only 1 guy sorry

edit: it is just my interp that the dark grey band iz a belt on kk, i think that specifically bc he directly is given a lot of superficial parallelz to john. the grey band is done w the exact same presentation as john's black band, which is defo a belt... so ppl who dont draw it arent wrong or anything. i just like it

[plaidos]

Fuck the haters let's celebrate. I've been waiting for 6 years since they confirmed it and I was waiting for them to finally confirm it for a good few years before that too, because the signs were already there. June Egbert has always been real! A lot of people forget that she wasn't just made up on the spot for the Toblerone Wish, there was context before that too. The Toblerone Wish only happened because it already made sense, it was already in the text.

yeah you’re totally right. anybody claiming June “came out of nowhere just because of a stupid toblerone wish” is an idiot already because (1) yeah Homestuck runs on audience suggestions lol (2) we know for a fact that June was always the plan pre-toblerone (3) people only started claiming June was transfem because so many of us individually noticed how much gendered repression John’s narrative is defined by & how that never has a pay off beyond “John is a depressed adult who feels like something has always been missing”. Aysha U Farah said June was the only headcanon she had ever seen Andrew Hussie get excited about.

[wizardlover124]

On Grandpa/Jake Harley

you know shits about to be long as fuck when i add the keep reading line like four lines in lol

anyway anon all this is 4 u!! feel free to talk ab this by just tagging instead of rb i dont want 2k words to be posted over n over again

Grandpa Harley being some kind of pseudo-omnipotent deity figure who somehow figures out/guesses (my money's on guesses) extremely intricate details about the game and does everything he can to make things go right is something that we don't talk about enough. It's one of the only plans in Homestuck made that are orchestrated entirely by one person then ends up going right. It's that pattern of hoping that the cards fall into place in the right way (unless we're taking the Grandpa is practically God perspective, which is interesting in its own right)—but notably, he makes a lot of preparations beforehand. He's so... active. It fascinates me. I'll have to talk about this on the Jake English as Jesus Christ trope post (it's coming, I swear, brainrot's a bitch) but the sheer amount of things he does is astounding. But, lo and behold, he wasn't always like this. Cue: the Skaianet Systems Incorporated texts.

Quick note about all that. A very large portion of the things Hussie wrote for SSI is 1) dubiously canon, and 2) a bunch of anti-semitic bullshit that he probably never should have fucking released to the public, at least not like that. Like, holy shit, keep that and your weird comments about sexual slavery in your Notes app dude, we don't need to hear it. For this reason I suggest reading the actual material with extreme caution. Cool? Cool. On with it. Here's a lil' review of Jake Harley before the session.

Funny enough, Jake had always been kind of pathetic in the Beta session as well.

So Skaianet was actually established by HIC as a front for laundering technology from Alternia and Sburbian ruins. The key of SN was not to actually develop tech, but make it look like it so that people will believe you when your company just re-defined gravity for the hundredth time. Jake has to play the "famous genius shtick," but he doesn't do so well. When he fully inherits SN at 21 he runs it hands-on, and "believes" his success is due to hard work and diligence. He also "believes SN is now a considerably more distinct entity from Crocker Corp, and his leadership of the company is a result of his hard work and competence. Neither is true." He's manipulated by his at-the-time boyfriend (Charlie Chaplin, somehow) into letting a rebel force into the Crocker manor, though the effort is ultimately thwarted by HIC.

He also has a disastrous love life. His relationship at sixteen with Chaplin consists of Chaplin finding him "obnoxious and thoughtless" though he "can't seem to quit him," and Jake ultimately "[toys] with his heart, and [abandons] him." This later (much later, think decades) manifests into something way worse when Chaplin appears in an outing Jake has with one of his families (he's had many, though not at once) and tries to kill Jake for not just his involvement with SN/HIC, but for breaking his heart as well. Notably, in this scene, upon having a gun aimed at him Jake reflexively hides behind his wife, who ends up being shot in his stead. He's out-strifed so badly that he'd have died in the jungle (oh yeah he takes his wife and 5yo son to a jungle btw) if Chaplin didn't have a divine intervention moment afterwards.

At 32 he also abandons his post at SN for fucking around Europe. "[H]e's out exploring and adventuring, completely oblivious to whatever's going on in Europe. He hops from site to site, looking for Sburbian ruins to plunder." One, the "whatever's going on" is WW2, again, somehow. Two, he has a daughter there that he "takes custody of, apprentices as an adventurer, and takes all over the place on his adventures." When he takes her to Hawaii she ditches him because she's sick of her "douchebag dad." And there's that Jude family too, obviously.

Oh, and all the Beta guardians are also meteor babies. It's how Jake ends up finding Dirk and Roxy to begin with—he sets them up with trust funds in Texas and New York so that they can be of use to SN later, though whether he knew their importance in the larger context of SBURB is unclear.

All caught up? Great.

The exact details of how every event goes down aren't as important as the lessons you can draw from it, namely: Jake Harley is an absolute fucking mess of a human being. He continuously creates families—notice how he keeps having children with his wive—then is bereaved of them. A few times he abandons them, a few times they abandon him, and sometimes they get killed by your ex-boyfriend. It's a neat little insight into just how neck-deep these commitment issues lie, but it's also fun to consider that he seeks it so desperately. This man has on record has had:

one wife be shot dead in front of him

a son who was technically kidnapped from him by the man who almost beat him to death (his ex-boyfriend)

a daughter ditch him in the middle of hawaii for being a shitty dad

a daughter (joey claire) be teleported by portal to alternia, who hated jake so much she took her dead mom's last name

said dead mom/wife whom upon her death leaves her children "Semi Orphans" because he just straight up ditches his kids to go work on hellmurder island

probably more

And he still considers himself a grandfather to Jade. TBF, I guess the easier way of explaining it is that it's simply the natural explanation—they are sort of related after all. But considering that he once sired an illegitimate daughter and not only took her into custody but tried to raise her as his liege, I still find it the fact that he tries over and over again to the point of rending the family meaningless interesting. I think it's viable that Jake wanted a family—not one where he and Jane were raised by HIC and poorly—but a real one. His attempt to raise that first daughter to mirror his habits reflects the way HIC raised Beta Jane to mirror her. Yet after relationship after relationship goes horribly wrong, this desire fades into a kind of apathetic unsureness to the point where this is what he says about his last "full" family, the Harley-Claires:

He's been making good headway on his quest for the mysterious island in the pacific. Once everything is taken care of here, he'll leave this family behind and set up shop on that island permanently. That's when the real work begins. The discoveries on that island will finally unite him with the destiny he's been in search of his whole life.

Two things of note. One, his first recorded instance of permanently setting up jackshit anywhere is at first with SkaiaNet then at Hellmurder island. Both locations share that theme of "destiny" in common—notice how he considers SN divorced from Crockercorp because of his efforts and tries to make the place overall less HIC-controlled, but ultimately fails. And sure, he later achieves this kind of destiny by having his Sburb plan go "right" but before this not a single "plan" he established went correctly. Jake in either timeline isn't a guy who regularly makes plans for multiple efforts—they zero in on one goal that appears as part of their calling and makes it happen, damn it. To him, that's a success. Whether he "actually does" is up for interpretation.

See, HIC actually wanted the Beta kids to play the game. She'd been using the Beta session as a "testing" timeline, knowing which events and people to avoid and keep in mind so that she can play everything out exactly the way she wants it to. Part of the reason why Crockertier Jane was so firmly for marrying Jake and having children was because that had been HIC's idea of what Beta Jake's purpose was once he landed on a Meteor (after B!Jane). So he saw the "big picture" in a bigger way than quite literally anyone else, but it still isn't enough, at least not in the way he thought it might be at first.

Prior to his discoveries on the island, Jake has no idea this will result in some kids using the software he's unearthing, which will destroy all life on Earth. Nor does he have any idea that those kids will be using this same software to reboot the universe with different starting conditions, thus ending this "trial run" timeline for HIC, and giving her a fresh start. Exactly as she planned.

This implies there is some moment that Grandpa Harley realized that everything he was doing would end up playing into the HIC's hands anyway. This also implies that he carried out those actions regardless, Hoping that Jade would someday win the game in the process. Are you seeing the parallel for my interpretation of Ult. Jake yet? Fuck.

What was the moment he realized? Did he power through anyway, hoping there was a bright light for Jade at the end of this all?

He's also a hoarder. He keeps items and objects instead of people. He hangs onto the past to the point where he's seemingly unable to let go of it—trophies, guns, artifacts—but throughout the entire Harley Manor there is not a single picture of his families. And that's where his dolls come in—dolls are just human enough but not too human, you can control them however you'd like yet delude yourself they are company. I'm not saying all doll-enjoyers are this way, but the specifics in which Grandpa (and Bro to an extent, for that matter) interacts with his dolls makes me believe he's turning them into pseudo-human entities because at the end of the day he again craves company. But, unlike Jake, Grandpa Harley's had a lifetime of experience reinforcing over and over again that this will never happen with a real person. And fuck, don't even get me started on the taxidermy—it's the very act of taking something, bereaving it of life and subjectivity, then keeping it for yourself. You can see how this has even affected Jade in the sense that she thinks about her taxidermied dead Grandpa (who she taxidermied himself, by the way) like a living, breathing person. And Jadebot? A robotic, perfect replica of his granddaughter, designed to monitor her at all times instead of him? And the parallels that has to Brobot. Ughghgh.

Also, quick digression. You know how Beta Dad & Mom were on the Battlefield? And how Grandpa landed just to recover Jade's dead dream body, then left Dad and Mom behind. Sorry, I'm just not normal about that at all. How did we collectively miss the sheer tragedy of that situation, God, I wonder what Roxy was thinking. Digression over.

All in all, what these files tell me is that the way Jake was written was no way accidental. Yeah he got fucked over in the Alpha session, yeah he's tragic, but he's tragic for a reason that I ultimately appreciate even as I clutch my heart and dramatically fall over from pain. He knows just enough about the meta-reality to cause feelings of absurdity but powers through it; he's supposed to be put in seemingly insurmountable situations and emerge, through one way or the other, victorious. He's supposed to have the strangest relationship known to man regarding other people and, as a result, try to find compromise between the two halves of "complete fuck-all isolation" and "the company of any developed adult human ever." He's goal-oriented only when it presents a clear-cut destiny to him, when he can see the significance of it, and otherwise floats around doing fuck-all in this world. This goal is, most of the time, people: Dirk for LE Jake, and Jade for Harley. It's also fun insight into where Jake could potentially end up going—as this post by Cooper already pointed out, Ult. Dirk's actions mirror Bro's need to micromanage and control everything in his life to the point where he, much alike Bro, secludes himself in an apartment while running his inner machinations unknown to most others. I wouldn't be surprised if Jake ends up in a similar way to Grandpa, giving his all to a dreary situation and maintaining Hope through it with the desire that it'll eventually succeed.

It would also be fun if his Hopes only came true after his death.

Alright, analysis over, everyone clock out. Good work, people. [Vaguely gestures to the reader.]

[patorucho]

looks w my big eyesi remember my street vv blurry but how would u rate the seasons

ok.. ok hmm doing this in chronological order

pheonix drop high - 6/10

it's like okay, kind of fond of it because they're in highschool and you get to see how they interacted back then :3 it gets a 6 for being Okay but also NOTTTTT DOING SEVERAL STORYLINES. WHO'S TEONY'S LESBIAN CRUSH IN HIGHSCHOOL. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE JURY. TO KACEY AFTER HIS COMA. TO THE SHADOW KNIGHTS. WHATEVER GENE AND EIN WERE??? MY GOD. deducted points for this. stays at a solid six for travis loser moments and kacey for existing

falcon claw university - 4/10

did not care for this one at all. fuck derek lycan in this season. Love LOVE XAVIER. FOR TOTALLY NONNNNBIASED REASONS. (KELLEN GOFF.) AND AGENT R AS WELL. (COUGHS.) BUT I FUCKINGF DID NOT CARE FOR JENNY DIANA CATHY AARON HUSSIE SHIT I DIDNT CAREEEEEEEEE. NOBODY CARES. betty stays i Love betty shes so real for being canonically aromatic and a lover for food

s1 mystreet - 5/10 + 1 pity

neutral on it. kind of fond of the silly neighbor shenanigans. gets points for zanemau friendship, its important. loses points for flirty only ab showing travis and that she isnt a loser boy yet. ok and one Small Pity Bonus point for whatever lesbian shit lucinda kept doing. Huh. also vylad goes missng Right After.

s2 love love paradise - 7/10

I LOVE YOU GUY AND NATE!!!!!!!! ohh im really fond of season 2. kind of Cute to be Honest. i like the lil lover shenanigans with aarmau and travlyn and such OHHH AND SLYANNA AND ERIC <3 ALSO LOSTTTT IT AT IVY AND TEONY. EEEK!!!! i get Really excited at reintroductions. big fondness for the travis gets left Behind and also Laurance Forgotten

s3 lover's lane - 4.5/10

KACCCEEEYYYYYYY RRRRREEEETTTTURNNNNN. for this you gain a Bit of Point. A Small Win For ME. Kind of fond of sylvanna watching aph as well as zane's motherly ness. heheha... UGHF. FUCKKK WE NEVER GOT LUCINDA'S EX ARC FINISHED EVER. HE KINDOF JUST FUCKED OFF. AND OHHHMY GOD GENE AND THE SK. THEYMOVED IN AND WE NEVA EVA. HEARDABOUT THEM AGAIN. UGHHRHHHHHHHF. loses points majorly for FORGETTING. ALSO THE AARMAU SHIT. FFFFUCKKKKK OFF. im including the small break between this and s4 here. UGHHHHHHFF </3 they also forgot about the cafe which is Funny

s4 emerald secret - 8/10

KIND OF IN LOVE WITH THIS SEASON. OHH YEAHHHH SHIT KICKED OFF. UGHHHHHF. AHHH. AHHHHHH.REMEMBERS. GOOD SEASON. I LOVE YOU AARMAU. i screamed so loud this season. did youknow i coughed out blood seeing ein again. Yupp. UGH UGHHH!! SO GOOD. i love kim and ghost AND GARROTH OHMY GODDDD. SHES SO STUPID ALWAYS <3

s5 starlight - 7/10

AUUUUUUUHHUUUUGHHHUHHHGGAHHHAGHAHAHAGAHAHHH. GAHHHHHH. AARMAU.GAH. coughs. okay i Really Liked the relationships getting established and such. eek. zanechan rlly cute and GOOD that nana is Learning about it Slowly. Correct Ding. and UGHFHHHF. UHHGH...TRAVISSS YOUUUURE SO NORMAL YUUPP. fuckyou Zacki Hatedyoy Here already. ALSO EEEK.IM SO SOOO. FOND OF MELISSA. I LOVEHER. SUREY.NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN.

s6 when angels fall - 9/10

MYGOD. AARMAU. GAH. SOOO GOOD.PROBABLY ONE O MY FAVES. SHIT HAS HIT THA FANNNNNN!!!! FUCKEDUP. THIS IS SOO FUCKEDUP. THEYKILLED OFF BLAZEIM GOING TO SHOOT MYSELFIN THE HEAD. AHHGUYHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHSHSA. HHHHHAAAHHHH. TRAVIS. CLUTCHES HEAD. TERRY. CLUTHCHESHEAD. AARON LYCAN. MELISSA. DEREK. RACHEL.IMF GOINGT SHOOTMYSELG THE LYCANNSNSNSBDFEN. GAH. minus One Point for killing off my family and also That Ending. you stay at 9 for mentioning Not Alone Buddies. you say this to me and i Crumble .

[ricemilk413]

Gonna add on top of that: (tl;dr are just the bolded sentences) -It's a product of its time, but a lot of people demonize it in a way it doesn't deserve. The author is not perfect, but you can see them improve through the years. The comic has became an unapologeticaly queer story, that was exceptional at that time and still is. Reading it is not endorsing everything that's there, it's flawed, it's offensive at times, but the intentions are good, at least these days, and seeing Hussie being compared to JK Rowling is troubling me. And the affected minorities in the fandom HAVE BEEN striving to adress those problems and improve our discussion of it. I've learned so much through just listening to them.

-Don't be a coward. Just go to the 1st page and check it out! See if you go further. For people who were still confused about the interface: this blue command is what you click to go to the next page. Those are user-suggested commands, but they're a thing of the past. (you can use arrows with an extension on the og website, or the app browser mentioned below)

(Because they're user-suggested early Homestuck is slow and goes in weird directions, but if you reach the end of Act 1 and wanna continue, you'll off to some adventure. Still, the charming humor of Act 1 is something to appreciate on its own.)

Your dialogue is hidden behind this neat little button. Open it! It's not skippable! almost nothing in Homestuck is, even if it appears so. (some links inside the narration in early homestuck lead you to some external websites to give context to a reference or show u the beta version of hs which you don't need to go through)

SOME PANELS ARE CLICKABLE, it's gonna be pretty clear about it. -You can spoil yourself! Homestuck is so vast and weird that you can see some of the most essential plot parts and it will fly over your head and you'll forget about it, while having the feel for what this comic entails. Really not convinced? google [S] Cascade. Go ahead search for [S] Descend. Maybe you'd like the goofy side of homestuck better? [S] John: reunite with loving wife and daughter. Have fun.

-the same point as OP just worder differently. It's ok to be confused. Things will be explained later, and anyway, if you understood like 50% of it on your first read, you'll understand 90% on your second. Yes, your second read. Duh, you don't have to, but reading it again is rewarding as fuck.

Ways you can experience Homestuck in:

-Download and use The Unofficial Homestuck Collection for the most authentic experience. Homestuck.com is broken. Even the author recommends it.

It has accesibility options and there are even more mods you can download. Seen that a quirk-remover is maybe being worked on, as well as an experimental web version if you're not ready for the commitment of downloading an app. (it has trigger warnings)

-For people who'd rather watch than read there is Let's Read Homestuck. Not finished yet, but currently late into the story. It's edited with voice actors and background music. Very nice experience. The quality improves and they even got Dante basco (prince Zuko among other things) to come in to voice at some point. -If you'd rather have the comic shown in its original state but still need someone to read it for you there are VODs of different people streaming reading it! just search it on youtube and check! Homestuck has its own CATEGORY ON TWITCH. It's not that active, but you can still catch a live-reading experience.

-There are people liveblogging/twitting Homestuck. You can read along or make your own!

-There are read-along podcasts!! There's many of them, but only few currently finished reading.

-Check out the music. Even if you decided Homestuck the story isn't for you, the music can be a totally separate experience. The official stuff has, in homestuck music wiki's words "712 tracks across 37 albums, totaling 34:12:59 hours." and that's excluding the fan albums that are worth checking out too.

And to end this. I love Homestuck so much. There are other people that know more than me, but I will gladly be your guide to homestuck and everything around it I know of. Of course my view is highly biased, but if you need someone to talk about it, questions to ask, I'm here.

I think we should work on demystifying homestuck.

-It's not unapproachably long. If you can spend a month reading/watching whatever else, you can also spend a month reading homestuck without difficulty.

-If you pay attention you can understand it just fine. There's a lot of moving parts, but it's like a clockwork: if you don't get something despite paying attention, it will most likely fall into place later.

-There's filters for the desktop app in case you don't wanna see the era-typical edgelord humor of the first half, but honestly sometimes it adds to it. (The Future!ArachnidsGrip bit is good. Sorry.)

-It is flawed!!! That's true!! But this website is constantly on about how no media is irredeemable and how you should read things that make you uncomfortable and analyse why that is and still recognise the value in it.

-kill the part of you that cringes 👍

[ceabu]

So.....just finished reading homestuck epilogue (candy)....I just...I don't know how I should feel...I absolutely love gamzee. But that Gamzee I hate the most. I hate Jane and I'm surprised that Gamzee is with her cause in some parts he does make some good points about her being a bitch. I sometimes wonder why doesn't he just leave??? And I hate Vriska and all but what he fucking did was absolutely fucking disgusting, he's like in his 30's and she is like I think 15?? Gamzee is just fucking gross in this. I actually never wanted him to die so badly in my life! I just wanted to rant

why would u read this shit in the first place anon!?!?! aosidfhao;sdhgadsg

i cant think of a worst way to waste ur time than to read that bullshit epilogue

i only read a little bit ( after dirk committed unalive ) that was it for me lol couldnt fucking continue it. and im glad i didnt lol cuz i was so sure that things will get better somehow?? ‘’certainly they worked hard for these 2 epilogues!! everything will turn out good in the end!!’‘ <--dumb naive past ceabu still had faith in homestuck back then

i dont know candy!gamzee and i dont wanna think about him. he is not canon. its just some random character LIKE CHANGE HIS NAME TO WHATEVER SHIT U WANT AND DONE. THATS NOT GAMZEE ANYMORE. and he never was in the first place. i dont look at the epilogues and think ah yes the true canon epilogues because thats not what they are

they are just some stupid stories made to antagonize the fans of a loved webcomic so they ( people working on it ) can get ( bad?? upset?? ) attention.

reading meat and a little bit of candy made me genuinely sick to my stomach. i cried and felt so so upset lmao i felt so many negative emotions for a thing i was so excited about ( it was my first up8 ) LOL

i do not give a shit about vriska and i never will. why is she 15 and gamzee 30??? wtf is up with that? actually no dont tell me i dont care

those are not the same characters i read about. homestuck2 can burn in hell for everything theyve done to their characters and fans. my respect for anything regarding homestuck faded a long time ago. i place my faith and love and attention on the fanworks. people who love the characters and give them proper care they deserve.

( sorry about this but yo girl is gonna go wild for a hot second )

NO BUT REALLY LMFAOO HOMESTUCK2??? EPILOGUES??? CAN SUCK MY FUCKING DICK LMAOOOO HOW DO U LOOK AT THIS STORY AND THINK UKNOW WHAT. IMMA MAKE IT WORSE

IS THERE SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIKED THE EPILOGUES??????? IF THERE IS IDK WHAT TO TELL U MAN LOL GTF AWAY FROM ME

DIRK

JANE

GAMZEE

JADE

ROSE

KANAYA

WHAT THE FUCK DID U DO TO THEMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO???????? DID WE READ THE SAME COMIC????????

ITS LIKE THEY TOOK A RANDOM GUY OFF THE STREET N WERE LIKE ‘‘WE’LL GIVE U 20 DOLLARS IF U LET US TELL U IN SHORT ABOUT THIS WEBCOMIC AND THEN U GET TO CONTINUE IT’‘ AND THE GUY WAS LIKE ‘‘UH SURE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO’‘ AND HE FUCKING WENT HAM BECAUSE HE DOESNT KNOW THE CHARACTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IM SO ANGRY AT THEM FOR WHAT THEY DID LOL!!!!!!!!!! FUCK THE EPILOGUES AND BEYOND CANON THOSE ARE BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!! DISGUSTING WORTHLESS STORIES THAT MEAN NOTHING!!!!!! WASTE OF EVERYONES TIME!!!!!!!!!!!! UKNOW WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE INSTEAD OF READING THOSE GOD AWFUL STORIES?? LITERAL ANYTHING LMAO ANYTHING I WOULD HAVE DONE WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN READING THAT FUCKING ATROCITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT THE FUCK U MEAN ROSE CHEATED ON KANAYA WITH JADE AND HAD A BABY NAMED SOMETHING DISGUSTING??????????/

WHAT DO U MEAN DIRK IS A IDIOT VILLAN THAT HAS TEREZI N ROSEBOT THAT HAVE A THING(???)

VRISSY?????????????/

HOW ABOUT!!!!!!!!! U MAKE A WHOLE COMIC ABOUT U!!!!!! SUCKING ON VRISKAS TOES LIKE THE DISGUSTING MAN U ARE INSTEAD OF FUCKING GAMZEE LMAOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAA;OIHSDGOIHDSGNOISAHDGOASIDHG;ASIDGNVDPAIGHNADS;GIOHNDSAGV;OIASHD

ADIGNAPGIH I AM BEYOND ANGRY RIGHT NOW LMAOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK U HUSSIE FOR RUINING THE OKAYISH ENDING U MADE HOMESTUCK HAVE

WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR THIS SHIT TO BE GOOD AND U RUINED EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!!! U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[macklives]

GAHKDHKAHD CRUSH???? CRUSH???????

[wallpapernacht]

there is no remaster of homestuck albums 1-5 bc humanity simply isnt ready for it

[quinnonimp]

do you have any favorite books/movies/shows? (this is me asking you to ramble about your favorite piece of media, I'm in the mood for special interest talk.)

ooo im not much of a consumer of media but one of my favorites is homestuck !!!! ill talk abt it, but mind u im kind of horrible at talking abt my interests </3

im not that old of a homestuck fan (only got into it around 2020 i think) but FUUUUUCK its such a huge part of my life and probably my longest hyperfixation, might even be a special interest with how much i still think abt it at random intervals or small associations

im honestly a little of scared of falling back into my hyperfixation of it though ? theres a few small reasons but i think its mostly just me being scared of commitment to anything as always (which is probablt also why i barely consume media) . recently i was REEEALLY close to but new ccquackity/ccwilbur activity dragged me away to safety lmfao (if u could even call a dsmp/tntduo hyperfixation safety)

smth i rly love abt homestuck is the way its so incredibly focused on characterization rather than story

like YES it does have a great story but its clearly messy n weird n hussie just kind of throws anything up in the air and just the dumbest shit ever can happens, and while that is aswell smth i absolutely fucking love - the characters r a way bigger deal n more interesting than anything the story will conjure up, and thats definitely my favorite way of writing media

cause like, yknow, good characters can absolutely save a bad story, but a good story cant rly save bad characters

plus theres so many characters and theyre all so well written that its easy to find a fan for each of them

my favorite character is 100% gamzee, im so fucking normal abt him, like oh my god i love that dude so much and the little idealized version of him i have inside my head lmao . mostly the earlier stuff is what i like of him though

fun fact ! hes part the reason im not scared of clowns anymore . i used to be terrified of clowns so when i first read homestuck i thought he was the most annoying freak in the world and DESPISED him, until i started looking more into purplebloods and gradually liked gamzee more until suddenly clowns r now my entire personality

i have so many reasons to love gamzee, but a lot of it has to do with just the plain fact i relate to him and when i see him i go "damn hes just like me fr" . like just . idk . his mannerisms n the way he dresses n looks r pretty similar to mine nowadays - except the whole "murderous instincts" thing, i think . and because of the way i havent read the comic in a while this self projection has really marinated itself

hes also sooooo brasileiro nordestino bc i said so 🤏

other favorite characters of mine are roxy, jade, kurloz, aradia, meenah, and calliope . plus, hes not a favorite but: when i got into homestuck i used to be a way louder energetic person, so my friends would say i was literally karkat, which infuriated the hell out of me x)

classpects is one of my biggest interests in homestuck, i fucking love them so much, im such a personality wizard i will latch onto anything personality related so hard . theyre great for initiating 60 page analysis on favorite characters (or ocs) and are so amazing for characterizing ocs its crazy, and aswell as to just classpect friends or random funny shit . i love them !!

in fact once i made an entire analysis to my friends as to why mosquitos r thiefs of blood, and there were so so so many more reasons than just the funny idea of classpecting a mosquito something called "THIEF of BLOOD"

though what i think a lot of ppl forget though is that while yes theyre heavily based on personality, theyre based on narrative aswell, which is why a real person can never have 1 set classpect all throughout their life since we well dont know the narrative we live in, we dont know our paths or our conclusions or how we'll end up and thats an important thing to know when classpecting since the way to godhood in sburb is a personal journey to self improvement, yknow ?

(though ofc if u wanna classpect solely based on personality go right ahead . the world is yours)

in this era of my life id consider myself a maid of space (which is a cool as fuck classpect and gets me the coolest powers EVER !!!!!!), but 1-2 years ago i considered myself a rogue of blood, then a rogue of rage, then a rogue of space (i was very rogue-ey), plus a few others here n there, and if i were to classpect myself from 3-4 years ago i would be a witch of rage/blood

i just think seeing the way change happens and the way we can see that change through a silly lens such as classpects is cool . with the way my obsessions work im obviously gonna look at the world with anything that associates with my interests in the back of my head, so im gonna start classpecting something like a glass jar if i take a look at it, and thats fun as hell !!

ive changed a lot throughout the years just as everyone does and im gonna continue changing, so who knows what classpect i end up with in another year or two ! its fun to think abt

ill leave my thoughts with that but thanks for asking :.))))

[candyredterezii]

idk why but i never could ship kar/rezi? like i loved their dynamic as friends but the ship never really managed to 'hook' me. it did break my heart that there was a whole ass retcon and all they did was bring back vriska to make her terezi's number 1 most important relationship. idk it just felt kinda... underwhelming? like we got 0 closure and i know it's like that with friends irl, people often do just grow apart but like, they were so fucking close and had so much and for it all just to be poof, gone, and nobody talks about it. the only times i see them brought up is to be like "haha can you believe karkat had a crush on her? super weird right?" and i just want them to idk acknowledge each other after everything they've been through

'haha can u believe karkat had a crush on her weird right?'

like do u understand their relationship at all LOL

THEY WERE SUPER DUPER CLOSE... like karkat cared so much for her well being and she with his.

she kept his mutation a secret despite it being something she could be culled over, and he wanted her to move in next door so he can keep an eye on her cus he worried bout her being alone in the woods all the time she uplifted n supported him when he needed it karkat looked up to terezi IMMENSELY

they were besties. literally besties.

like romantic or not you can't just ignore the importance they had for each other but people... do?? because???

its such a disservice to both of them and i hate they never got closure and ill never forgive hussie and ill beat them to a pulp myself

[astrayan]

What pumpkin released a really comprehensive email explaining the money issues for game 1. They also explained that Sarah did not work for them during the time she is speaking about and its 100% speculation. They got scammed out of almost all of their budget with the first game making company, then when they 'fired' them for lack of progress over the year, and the way they dodged meeting with Hussie in person the entire time, they did not get even close to what they expected in their refund. This refund was supposed to be the budget for the new company, which went on a freeze for rebudgeting then shut down due to inner conflict. There's a post on Tumblr where someone shared the entire email if you want the full story.

Pt 2: Ok my brain didn't connect the correct part of your post amd immediately thought Sarah was the one who was fired, but she is not. But by her own admission on the video her original source about the odd gentleman stuff is unreliable and incorrect. Her new source explained things and she has removed the link to any info provided by them, including the article link.

it’s not incorrect, it’s just unreliable for some people, but i 100% believe gio’s account of what happened because that shit was sourced and researched. Also, you gotta admit that 1. is kinda sus that kate at the homestuck 2 team and/or TOG are threatening the creator of the video (sarah) with legal action. follow that with a LOT of people leaving ur team recently and you have yourself in a pretty spotty situation. 2. the patreon was only to be funded for homestuck 2, but hussie himself tells in a update that the money is being used in pesterquest and hiveswap? *narrows eyes* sure, susan. and 3. from a purely game designer perspective (i went to college for this yall), you CANNOT HAVE ANYTHING DONE WITHOUT A GDD. that is the prime document that the entire team has to follow and it must be so detailed as to involve how programming is gonna go, how level design is gonna go, puzzles, art, EVERYTHING. TOG not receiving said document and working on assets for act 7, then being fired and going on doing king’s quest (which i imagine had proper documentation), then the sudden shutdown of the NYC studio where people were literally learning about them being fired via a blog post??? with no severance pay??? yikes

here is a summary of events, as u/artificialn0cturne posted on the discussion thread, and explain things way better than i do:

here is the link to the imgur gallery

now, what i personally believe? andrew hussie bit WAY more than he could chew, had no fucking idea how to produce a game from scratch, wasted time and money fucking around and opening a fancy office in NYC for work that was COMPLETELY scraped at the end, and didn’t fulfill the promise to his backers/pledgers all those years ago. this was a damn scam, and a huge one if you ask me.

[probablydinosaurs]

eh ik it was like. hold on *googles* 2012. the internet was different and ik they were created out of spite towards fans who kept nagging and outside of meenah and  Aranea , hold 0 plot value outside of being flesh muppets for a army but. god the dancestors are the most outdated, poorly written characters ive ever seen and i just want to scoop them all up, give any really shitty ones (aka mainly  cronus lmao)  redemption arcs, give mituna actual respect as a disabled autistic person instead of being a beyond ablest af sick joke character, tone down Damara’s “sexy Japanese girl” tropes and just turn her more like  Porrim/ how she was portrayed well she was with scratch (was that her? I'm still very unclear who that was) and overall just make them actual characters and not insulting internet stereotypes. like all the homstuck cast are such but they have nuance and depth on top of being internet tropes. this cast was just hussie making fun of his fans, the internet and autistic people well he was at it. like ik all of homestuck has issues. u can make a drinking game of how many r words there is in acts 1-5 but those i can write off as dated 2009-12 internet. the  dancestors is a whole 10 characters (not including meenah and aranea since they had plot) that he just threw in and were drained of anything but shitty behavior. the only 2 good things that came out of the  dancestors is that 1: we as fans can say fuck canon and add depth and 2: dante basco actually voiced  Rufioh for the homestuck fandub. like that probs wasnt cheap but so worth it. 

[m39]

Pesterquest: Finale Volume

We did it.

maniacal giggling

It’s all done!

short maniacal laughter

Pesterquest is done!!

maniacal laughter

You slap yourself to come to your senses

I’M SORRY! I’m sorry. Okay look, there is so much stuff to talk about the finale volume. Like this character appears and that thing happens and this and that yadda yadda yadda! Let’s face it, this shit is top tier spoiler heavy so if you didn’t buy Pesterquest already, do it now as I’m saying and go back after finishing it. I’m giving everyone who has an allergy for spoilers 5 seconds.

5…

4…

3…

2…

1…

IT’S ON NOW!!

Okay, first of all, Dirk himself.

He deserves everything after all of this shit from The Epilogues; honestly, all of those things after the original comic made me like Alpha Dirk more. The fact that you can make him flip off Doc Strider is satisfying as fuck. Speaking of Doc Strider:

Ha!! Look at this bitchtit on the left! He wants us all to believe he’s a stonker but in the reality he’s thinner than a Twix bar! Haa Haa Hee Hee Hoo Hoo Haa Haa Hee Hee Hoo Hoo Haa Haa Hee Hee Hoo Hoo… sigh He will end up castrated, I can tell you that.

Now there is another character to talk about it but there is one thing to discuss before.  Before this Volume I thought that it was Doc Strider who erased MSPAReader’s memories of Friendsim and Homestuck but it turns out it was not him (I think he gave them their HS memories back). It was her all along:

Yeah, Hussie’s personal right hand herself, Aysha, appears in the Pesterquest’s Epilogue. Aaaand she’s basically female Huss… with wife.

And so after almost 7 months of content, it’s over. We had laughs, we had cries, we had yet another adventure that had to come to the end. All of the main characters (asides Cherubim) befriended, their life is (somewhat) better and this universe/timeline is now under our protection.

We are its First Guardian.

I would like to thank Andrew Hussie for creating Homestuck, Aysha U. Farah and her team for creating this game, and all of you for reading my final re-

You suddenly stop talking. There is something that is bugging you.

Wait… Hang on a second. What did The Director say earlier?

Hold the fuck on!

The music starts building up.

…

No…

…

No. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. no. T-t-there can’t be the next one! It all ends up perfectly! She is clearly talking about Homestuck^2!!

Nervous laughter

No wait!! I-i-i-it must be H-h-h-h-Hiveswap and its 2nd act!!

More maniacal laughter

With realization that there will be third game featuring MSPAReader, you start laughing like Father Grigori while the music reaches its most popular part.

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS!!!! FOR WE ART UNWORTHY OF THE HAPPY ENDING!!!!

WE WILL BE CHAINED UP TO HELL THAT IS HOMESTUCK UNTIL WE END UP AS A FOOD FOR THE HUSSIE’S MAGGOTS!!!

THE END IS NEAR!!!!

Maniacal laughter… once again

THE END IS FUCKING NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

You run out of your room, screaming about the end of the world when that other Liquid Bogan takes your sit.

Bogan: I̸��̯ ̶̢̏ẇ̷͓o̵̡͒ǔ̸̧ḽ̷̍d̸̛̬ ̵̦̎l̷̹̓ì̸̧k̴̯͑e̵͈̓ ̴̫͋t̴͎̄ȍ̷̜ ̵̘̂ḁ̸̓p̴̜̽o̷̲̅l̷̺͘ó̷̥g̴̪͐ḭ̷͂z̸̼͗e̸͖̎ ̸̯̎f̵̠͂o̴͎̓r̴̘̈ ̸̡̈́m̴͕͠e̶̲̕ ̴͎̈r̷̪̓ỏ̸͜ȯ̵͓m̴̨̌m̴̹̓a̸̻̎t̶͚͒e̶̛̹s̸̊ͅ ̷̫͐b̴̠̈́e̷̙͆ȟ̵͔ȃ̸̦v̵͊ͅi̴̹̾o̵͙̍ř̷͇.̵̭͂ ̵̠̈́H̴͓͘ȅ̵̠ ̷̬̄p̵͈̍l̵̝̀a̸̟͠y̸̨͂ẻ̶̱d̷̮̀ ̷̛͕E̷̜̎t̴̬̉e̵̪̾r̵̹̚n̴̬͆a̵͇̚l̴͖̃ ̴͎̐D̸͈̆Ò̴̪O̴͇̊D̶̪̐ ̸̮̒s̸̜̔o̶͔͗ ̴̬̌h̵̜̋a̵̛̠r̷͚̽d̵̜͝,̴̣͝ ̶̰͌h̷͖̀ḭ̸̆s̴̤͒ ̵̗̿p̴̩̎ò̶̝w̷̲̃ë̸̼́r̷͈̀ ̸͓̏s̴̘̓u̵̦̽p̶̳͒p̴̢͘l̶̻̐y̸̝̔ ̶̤̍è̴̠n̵͎̎d̵̰̒e̷̜͝d̴̗͐ ̸̻̉ű̶̠p̷͙͂ ̸̥̃w̶̼̕i̸͑ͅt̵͖̎h̶̛͕ ̵͎̀ȯ̴̫ņ̵̈e̵̬͆ ̶͔̀f̵̫̚o̸͎̐o̶͙̒t̴̫̓ḛ̶͘s̴̯̾ ̴̤͐i̵̬͛n̸̺̋ ̶̙͐A̷̯͘b̴̘͐r̷͉̽a̴̰͆ȟ̴͔à̵͇m̴̔͜’̶̐͜s̷̯̉ ̷̲̾g̶̛̮â̶͓r̸̡̓d̷̙̄e̷̻͆ñ̴̝ ̶̔͜ǒ̵̭r̷̝̈́ ̵͎̇ș̵̒ỏ̵͓m̴̝̀e̶̳̐t̶͓̑h̵͕̆ï̶̳n̸̪̾g̸͕̀ ̵̼͛l̶̗̓i̸̫͒k̷̳̅ë̵̦́ ̷̠͠t̸͎̆ḣ̶̘a̴̧͝ṯ̸̂.̵̪̋ ̶̩̃I̶̛̹n̵̤̔ ̶̺̚o̵͑ͅt̸̓͜ḧ̵͚́e̴̠͋r̸̟͑ ̷͎̈́w̵̙͌o̵͙͗r̴̘̐d̴̝̀e̶̜͌s̵͚͒:̷͕̈́ ̵̳̂ĥ̷͇a̸̗͐l̵̙̂f̷̘̀ ̸͍̀d̸̰̽e̴͕̔a̷̭̍d̸̰͌.̸͓̎ ̸̣̌A̷̲̓n̴̰̍d̴̞͒ ̶͔̚t̵̯̒h̴̡̚a̷̠̽t̷̡̓ ̴͖͘m̸̹͒a̴̠͑d̷̨̈́e̶̬̊ ̶̹̉ȟ̵̰i̸̩̚m̶̡͝ ̷̳̿ğ̴̻ȯ̷͇ ̴̪͐c̸͈̔o̵̭̕o̴̤̓ĉ̵̦ő̷̘o̷̩̓ ̸̱͌f̵̫͒o̴͉̕r̸̪͂ ̷̻̀C̴͕͗o̴̭͝C̸̻̑o̴̘̒ ̸̡̊P̵̗͑ŭ̷̝f̵̪͗f̵̺͝s̷̝̆.̵̗̈

Bogan: T̷̼́h̸͓̄a̵͑͜ṋ̵͂ḱ̸͓ ̷̫̆ÿ̶͍́ô̸̤u̵̻͠ ̵̜̽a̴̫͑l̵̳̓l̸̔͜ ̴̫̈f̵̪͠ȍ̷̫r̷̞̂ ̶͖͆s̴̤͝t̴̢̎ä̴̤́y̷̦͋i̵͕̔n̶͈͝g̴̘̈́ ̵̫̍w̴̜͂i̷̬̒t̴̜͋h̶̛͚ ̵̟̈́h̷̗̀i̵͇͂m̵̢̆ ̵͉͐f̸̯̆o̸̜̎r̵̞̆ ̸̈ͅẗ̴̯́ḥ̸͐ọ̵̒s̵̜̍e̸̥͛ ̸̥̇m̷̥̑o̶̧̎ň̴̺t̶̢̓h̸̥͑ë̵̳́s̷̤̿ ̴̪̿a̶̮͗n̴͉̓d̸̖͂ ̸̲̅w̸̘͌e̵̱͊’̴͎͝l̷͔̏l̶̘͗ ̸͔̀ș̵̍ě̵̠e̸̳̎ ̷̗͝y̵̜͝o̸̯͂ú̷̬ ̵͖͑a̶̺͌l̵͖̅ĺ̴̗ ̸̘̊n̶̺̅è̵̱x̶̫͂t̷̙͛ ̵͈̇t̶̼̕i̸͕͒m̵͇̍ẹ̸̓.̷͉̈́

Bogan: G̵̹̿o̵̤͒o̸̪͆d̴̙͌b̸͙̓y̷̩̆e̶͎͘.̸̧̚

[clownsnake]

ok so my tl is all hussie hate please tell me what this man has done (so i can bully him as well)

Off the top of my head, he’s had a repeated habit of getting into controversies, what with:

-team special olympics. idk much to do with that but ppl have said tht it’s shitty and with that info + just judging by the name, I Do Not want to look it up. Idk if he apologized for it, i don’t care. if anyone wants to provide more info on this issue go ahead!

-saying that the homestuck kids are ‘aracial’ (already controversial & not a creative decision I agree with outside of podcasts & non-graphic novels) but then making the trickstermode versions of them ‘caucasian’ (idk if he made a great apology for that, but I think many POC fans were still upset even after his apology. Look it up & judge for urself wether he got to the heart of the issue)

-the epilogues. He made jane into a trump allegory, instead of just making Jade trans for the whole yiffany plot point he GAVE HER A DOG DICK, hired an incest shipper for the album art(? I think? I know there was an artist involved who ships prospitcest, I just dk if it was for album art or w/e) as well as someone who wrote bro/dave fics, general character bastardization upsetting a lot of people, and hired (in my opinion) very pretentious writers. Generally a dick move, aside from the morally fucked shit.

-hs2, continuing off of the dick move of the epilogues with yiffany! Minimal rosemary post-that flower shit (which is... you know, the biggest piece of lgbt rep in hs. This is just something tht irks Me, so if u don’t want to count that against him go ahead), more pretentiousness, and other shit I’m too lazy to bring up rn. There’s some dirt on some of the writers being shit (like Kate “im gonna post nudes on twitter where kids can easily find them, and scream about how much I hate children when I get called out for it” Mitchel, and optimistic “i said that anyone who disagrees with Kate should die” duelist), and their behavior doesn’t really dictate how I view hussie ASIDE FROM 1. The fact that HE hired them and 2. The fact that he’s Friendly with them. He willingly chose to associate with them by putting them in charge of his most successful work.

-skaianet controversy.. idk what the whole bs with that is, I didn’t read it, but apparently he made hitler related to the human cast of homestuck?? And aside from that it was just generally very insensitive? Like I said I didn’t read it, it wasn’t rlly worth my time, so if anyone wants 2 correct me go ahead. He retconned it & apologized for it so that was cool. Still fucked up tht he did that tho.

-the odd gentleman controversy. The story for a while has been that TOG stole hiveswap’s Kickstarter money for some other game, but recent allegation have been that 1. Hussie got TOG to make art for one of homestuck’s animations while they were being hired to work on hiveswap, thus wasting their time 2. TOG worked on a side gig, kings quest, while hussie wanted them 2 make art for him. TOG’s time was allegedly being wasted, so I allegedly back this decision. & 3. Hussie was apparently prone to last-minute decisions, like the 3D to 2D switch in hiveswap style. According to TOG’ claims, the 3D version of hiveswap act 1 was complete in 2014 and work on act 2 had already begun, when hussie suddenly decided hey! Let’s redo all this shit & make it 2D! It fits my ~artistic vision~ more. :) Again, we don’t know if TOG’s claims are true or if the claims of TOG stealing the Kickstarter money are true, but if TOG’s claims are true,,,,,, then hussie wasted their time And a million twelve year olds’ money that was given to the Kickstarter. I’m willing to bet that their claims are true, bc the timeline matches up with what we know, and this all seems.... very in-character for hussie. (Also idk TOG’ pronouns, rip. Someone plz let me know this info I don’t want 2 misgender anyone)

Wether or not you want to hold him accountable for any of this stuff, you gotta recognize the fact that he has made a habit of being a douche. I don’t trust him to avoid getting in controversies like this in the future, and I don’t trust him to make good decisions about homestuck from now on. The tone of the epilogues very much seems like it’s author fucking hates his creation & his characters, and if his burnout-fueled spite keeps on going the way it’s going, he’s gonna make more decisions just to piss of fans.

Tl;dr: hussie has repeatedly gotten into controversies, some of which aren’t properly apologized for, and I don’t trust tht he won’t do shit like this again. He just has bad vibes.

If anyone wants to correct me on anything, or add onto this go ahead! I’m in a rush rn so I can’t look things up 2 confirm stuff atm, I gotta get 2 class,, for more info I recommend checking out abraxas-calibrator’s blog! I learned a lot from searching thru there. (Also my memory is shit, so I probably definitely mixed some things up)