#Esmanur Hatun

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This pink and white kaftan was first worn by Mihrimah Sultan in the second episode of the second season of Magnificent Century. The kaftan is worn twice in the third season. First by Esmanur Hatun in the sixteenth episode and then by Nergisşah Sultan in the thirty-second episode.

Şehzade Mustafa (later Sultan Mustafa I) wears the kaftan in the fourth episode of the first season of Magnificent Century: Kösem. The kaftan was altered to look more like a dress before its use on Hanzade Sultan in the sixteenth episode of the second season.

[redrosecut]

I sometimes think that Bayezid's story would have been even more dramatic if he had fallen for Esmanur instead of Huricihan.

Or maybe both but Esmanur would have taken Rana's place and actually been able to give him children. It would have created a better dynamic in his own harem than Rana and Huricihan which was barely existing and over way too quickly. This rivalry would have so many layers. In general, Bayezid's harem appeared pretty underdeveloped in season 4 and deserved a better story attached to it.

[malachitezmeyka]

Two years ago I said that the identical glances were proof these two were mother and daughter and I stand by that statement

Also, Daye!!!!

[pazaryerigundem]

Bursa’da Yeşil Külliyesi görenleri hayran bırakıyor

https://pazaryerigundem.com/haber/189080/bursada-yesil-kulliyesi-gorenleri-hayran-birakiyor/

Bursa’da Yeşil Külliyesi görenleri hayran bırakıyor

Osmanlı döneminde şehrin her yerinden görülebilecek şekilde inşa edilmiş olan, Bursa’nın Yıldırım ilçesine bağlı Yeşil semtinde bulunan Yeşil Külliyesi, yerli ve yabancı turistlerin ilgisini çekiyor.

Esmanur GÜLBAHAR / HERKES DUYSUN

BURSA (İGFA) – Sultan Çelebi Mehmet tarafından 1419 yılında yaptırılan Yeşil Külliyesi, Bursa’da Osmanlı Devleti’nin ihtişamını gösteren eserleri içerisinde barındırıyor. Külliye içerisinde cami, medrese, imarethane ve türbe yer alıyor. İznik çinileri ile süslenmiş caminin içini görmek isteyen turistler özellikle hafta sonları uzun kuyruklar oluşturuyor.

Tur rehberlerinin en çok tercih ettiği mekanlardan biri olan, Bursa’nın sembolü olarak bilinen ve duvarları tamamen çini ile kaplı olan Yeşil Türbe, Yeşil Camii’nin karşısında bulunuyor. Türbenin içerisinde ise Sultan Çelebi Mehmet ile birlikte oğulları Şehzade Mustafa, Mahmut ve Yusuf, kızları Ayşe Hatun, Selçuk Hatun ve Sitti Hatun’un sandukaları yer alıyor.

TUR REHBERLERİNİN EN ÇOK TERCİH ETTİĞİ YER: YEŞİL KÜLLİYESİ

Farklı şehirlerden Bursa’ya tur düzenleyen bir tur rehberi, gezilecek destinasyonlara mutlaka Yeşil Camii ve Yeşil Külliyesini eklediklerini belirtti.

Herkes Duysun ekibine konuşan tur rehberi Tarık Soykan, “Yeşil Külliyesi, Bursa’nın tarihine tanıklık eden en önemli yapıtlardan biri. 600 yıldan bu yana Bursa’nın en güzel camisi olarak bilinir. Ziyaretçiler, hem mimarisiyle hem de tarihi dokusuyla burayı görmeyi çok seviyorlar. Özellikle yabancı turistler, bu muazzam yapının tarihini öğrenmek ve atmosferini yaşamak için buraya akın ediyorlar. Bende ziyaretçilere hikayesini anlatıyorum.” dedi.

BU Haber İGF HABER AJANSI tarafından servis edilmiştir.

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Magnificent Century for the fandom ask.

Knew this was coming!

blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most)

Hurrem. It has to be Hurrem, Who else could I even PICK? 10/10 best character.

scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped)

Hmmmmm....probably lil Cihangir or Esmanur. Both adorable AF.

scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave)

Gulnihal Hatun. She was adorable and I just loved her and headcanon her having married a good man, and had adorable kids she got to bring to visit Hurrem.

glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week)

I might also say Cihan like @hurremsphoenix. She was pretty cute and there's no one else I can think of that was minor enough that I liked. (I might have said Gulnihal but she had a much bigger role)

poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave)

I honestly can't think who I'd put here. Maybe Nazenin/Valeria? Not that I like her storyline cause it was gross, would have liked her better if she had been a foil to Nurbanu in Selim's harem, but I'm picking her I guess!

horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason)

Fatma, mustafa's concubine. Someone should have shoved HER down the stairs, never mind that poor lady she shoved. Wasn't a big fan of Fatma Sultan either.

eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell)

Ibrahim. I haaaaaated him so much. Hatice and Nigar BOTH deserved so much better. SO MUCH BETTER.

[minetteskvareninova]

What are the biggest changes you would make to the show that are unrelated to historical accuracy?

Sorry hon, going to be VERY unoriginal here.

Give Nigar a happy ending, mostly by reuniting her with Esmanur and letting her live a quiet life far, far away from dynasty and its bullshit.

Make the relationship between Hürrem and Süleyman less of a dumpster fire. It's never going to be completely unproblematic, but with Kösem and Ahmet, for example, writers at least tried to make it as close to a normal relationship as possible.

Give Fatma, Şah and Beyan more screentime, especially in the earlier seasons. I'd DIE for Fatma getting to meet all of her sisters!

Don't just get rid of Gül after season 2! His beloved mistress is now the queen of the world, let him enjoy the spoils of their victory! Plus, he's much funnier and more likeable than Kiraz.

Just better writing in general for Isabela Fortuna. This storyline had potential, if the writers weren't hellbent on making her fall for Süleyman and give up her goal of going home.

Make Mustafa fall for Fatma Hatun. You must admit it would be super hillarious.

Give Mehmet more personality. Enough said.

No Bali-Mihrimah-Esmahan-Mehmet drama! Just cut that shit out entirely. We don't want it.

Let Şah and Mercan get together at the end. What, it's not a big change? Well, it is big for ME.

[mc-critical]

hey, welcome back! hope your exams and stuff went well, and that you're doing fine now.

i wanted to hear your opinion on nigar hatun. i remember seeing one post of yours in which you said that she wasn't a favourite of yours like you favoured other characters and honestly, same. i didn't really much understand the fascination with her. she was an interesting character, but i can't imagine having her as a favourite when there are so many more characters who are far more interesting. i wish they gave her an alternate arc. idk what it could be, i'd like to hear your opinion on it. one alternative ending i came up for her is that she was extremely angry at ibrahim for toying with her and hatice for keeping her sweet little esmanur from her so she joins hurrem to defeat them? which hurrem did try but it didn't really go anywhere and nigar was against hurrem for killing ibrahim which just was kinda frustrating. they literally give hurrem no ally in the harem [except mihrimah later on but mihri is overall varying in terms of power] so it would be good for her to have some support in the harem from people who actually hated her enemies like her. she had actual political support from iskender celebi, rustem, and ayaz pasha and all, sure, but she didn't have much support in the harem, like all powerful women of the harem were against her. nigar obviously wasn't powerful like a sultan but she was an old member of the harem, was respected and even though she kinda lost her dignity with the scandal, she could've regained it with hurrem's help. sumbul was there later on but he was just a very faithful servant and didn't really have any real motive to harm any of hurrem's enemies except for out of his loyalty whilst nigar could've cultivated a hatred for hatice and ibrahim. this is a basic plot but i would've kinda liked seeing it. there can be many more ways her character could've ended but it would be good seeing a woman who didn't bow to her feelings all the time. the sultanas couldn't really control their feelings when it came to love because they were princesses who were used to getting what they wanted most of the time but nigar was a servant who also suffered the hardships of slavery and it obviously would've made her tougher as a person so she could control her feelings better; idk, i feel like this is an aspect of women they could've explored [or if they did explore it, i don't remember it lol my memory lapses a lot so i don't remember the show 100%] anyway, would like to hear your thoughts on nigar. thank you. welcome back again <3

Thank you! <33 Yup, I'm fine and the exams went well. Happy Pride month to you, too! 🏳️‍🌈

Hehe, I wrote that post years ago and while Nigar still isn't one of my absolute favourite characters, I've warmed up to her quite a bit. And honestly, now with the wider experience in the fandom, I can say that she isn't all that loved as it looks like. I then was under the limited wrong impression that the BG Mamma forum was a metric of all the popular opinions and yes, they loved Nigar a lot and I was sometimes confused as to why, but really, that and the Russian fanbase are the only places I have encountered that appreciate her all that much. There are characters I find more interesting than her, that's for sure, but she has her charm and I'm firmly against people reducing her to "evil" or "manipulative" or "weak after she fell in love with Ibrahim", so forth.

The thing she sets her first impression with is her intelligence caused by her relatively high experience in the harem. The advice she gave to Hürrem opened the path to her whole goal (as she herself acknowledged in E41) and that makes for quite an impact for a more recurring character. Despite of this, I never viewed early Nigar as someone taking an open side, hence I didn't find her supposed betrayal to Hürrem surprising in the slightest: she is also trying to survive in this environment in any way she knows how and she can't really find a fully comfortable position, because she is well aware that everyone is thinking for their own gain in the end. Including her. So the only choice she has left is to direct herself to where the wind is blowing and get advantages for herself once she gets the chance. Because all the experience has taught her to repress her feelings (E10 to Hürrem: "In this castle you can't show weakness."), opt to be the more level-headed person and seek for the more pragmatic solutions.

And yet she is very sensitive and perceptive to people that are different than the others or that are in need and is willing to lend them her hand. She adviced and helped Hürrem because she found potential in her, because she wanted to see her succeed, but not through endangering her own self or other people in the process (she told Hürrem that her game had gone too far again in E41), but through negotiation, compromise and adaption, to know when to start and when to stop and be respectful to those above her, no matter how hard or limiting that may look in Hürrem's eyes. Hürrem had the tendency in viewing every sign of support that came to her as granted, she still had that naive part of innocence in her in S01 and early on was in a desparate need of someone to lean on and unconditionally follow her path, that's why when Nigar diverted from that path, it hurt and took her a while to start trusting her again. But I didn't see Nigar as all that attached to Hürrem as Hürrem herself thought she was, especially with how Nigar became stuck between two sultanas later in S01 and that rendered her lost and more insecure than usual.

That's also why I don't view her as a two-faced or hypocritical double-crosser. Because for the longest time, Nigar was the one character in the series before Rüstem appeared that was clearly thinking about her own benefit and survival first and foremost from the beginning when darting between the powerful people in the harem and was the one well aware that she simply can't cling to a single side in her own position. Positions aren't permanent and can always change in such circumstances, so why can't she take advantage of this? Because who cares as much about the feelings for a Kalfa they can still order around after all? She has faced disregard from Mahidevran, Hürrem, Ibrahim and even Hatice. It is pretty understandable that she's going to seek the best opportunity for herself.

That whole facade breaks when she falls in love with Ibrahim. During rewatch, I found myself to have a soft spot for this character deconstruction, especially in S02. I know that it came to pass because of her falling in love with a man that doesn't share the same feelings and there were moments where it looked like she overdid it, even in S02, but for me, the whole thing nicely added a new layer of depth, while still feeling true to Nigar's character. Her future relationship with Ibrahim had been building up back in S01, when Ibrahim (both inadvertently and not I fully believe) played a part in helping her solve the first internal conflict she had (that is the struggle between the two sultanas). Maybe this didn't mean that much to Ibrahim, maybe he was simply trying to be helpful, but it meant a lot to Nigar - that was probably the first time someone seemed to take her feelings into account and actually listen when she couldn't help, but crack under the pressure. So it is only natural that she would search for this source of comfort once again, being ready to face every risk in the process. When she is appointed to Hatice and Ibrahim's castle, when she's practically left alone with Ibrahim, she decides to take that chance, to taste the forbidden fruit. He gave her something she never received and due to her not allowing herself to show weakness and having to cave to everyone else's demands before that, every ounce of affection Ibrahim shows her, it means the world to her. Thus she begins to idealize what she has with him, to the point of denial and delusion, and centers her loyalty completely on him. But that loyalty never seems to falter.  She began to resent and/or hate everyone who could possibly stand in Ibrahim's way, something she wouldn't have ever done before. She keeps her level-headed self and intelligence (I don't think that this plot line reduced it in any way, not even when she was at her worst.) and she's ready to take any opportunity for herself (case in point: her marriage with Rüstem.), but now her softer sides and her wish for affection are showing all the more.

The problem I have with Nigar's character, writing-wise, and now that I think about it, the main subject of why I didn't get the deal with her back then (along with considering her S01 self bland.. somehow?), is her S03B characterization. While her falling in love with Ibrahim plot-line became an important part of S02 Nigar's storyline, I don't think it overshadowed or dominated over her other characteristics, making for a neat balance of traits and an interesting, nuanced character. In an attempt to keep her for longest time possible in the story, S03B flanderized her in every possible way and overexaggerated her biggest strengths and flaws until they became stale and unbelievable. Her love for Ibrahim read as а near obsession narratively and her opportunism coupled with her will for revenge, which put her into many repetitive intrigues. At one point I even felt she was reduced to a plot-device (the moment Şah Sultan appointed her as a spy) and she felt a little too purposeless and to have totally outstayed her welcome until her last moment in the series.

The root of this problem is again, that they just didn't know when to stop with Nigar. To be brutally honest, she had no long-term role left to play after Ibrahim's death and it was time for the writers to let her go and maintain her generally strong characterization. The ending I would've chosen for her is to simply have Matrakcı give her Esmanur's location and for her to live with her daughter in piece. I know that because of the tonal shift, the show seemed to be already inclined that everyone had to have a tragic ending of sorts, to underline the growing ruthlessness and cruelty of the themes, but I fully believe that Nigar was one of the only characters that were terribly forced through their tragic endings. She didn't need, nor deserve a tragic ending and I doubt it would've been such a problem for the half-season if she didn't get one. I find a happier ending to be perfectly fine for Nigar and I would've loved to see it, if only for a freshness in ideas for character endings. I loved her Esmanur storyline and to witness her finding happiness with her, the only solace she had left, would have been a great wrap up of her S03 plots and an amazing send-off to Nigar's character.

I appreciate the thought you have put into your ending for her and to be fair, your proposal would be much better than anything S03B gave us. It would nearly correspond with the revenge plot of hers they were going for and it would be something more original at the same time. Hürrem's principal lack of allies doesn't bother me as a fact alone, because all her enemies have understandable reasons to be against her, but what bothers me however, is when the writers try using it to dumb her enemies down and make them doom themselves through their own failings or outright use it to put forced (often soapy) conflicts to make the audience sympathize with Hürrem. Or to make everyone "mistitle" her (is that a word? probably not.) or disrespect her on purpose again for sympathy points (that go beyond the part of her motivation that wants to feel respected and does stuff out of fear not to fall under a less favorable position once again.), without changing the status-quo until say, S04.

It is so deliberate it becomes annoying and seeing something else for a change... honestly, gimme! While I personally prefer a happy ending for Nigar, I would live for Nigar and Hürrem to work together again, while keeping what's become her central motivation intact. It may seem a little OOC for Nigar to work for Hürrem by that point, because she's channeled her loss of the most precious people into rage on those that have taken them away, but it would be a decent shifting of gears and a reverence to her opportunism to work to eradicate those she hates for good, even if it means doing so with one of your bigger enemies. After all, after the mission is fulfilled, she could still work against Hürrem in some way, right?

[Tell me if I got what you meant wrongly, but there is an example of a dynasty sultana putting her love feelings behind and by that I mean Şah Sultan. Her love is in the past by the point she arrived in the castle and her love for Ibrahim is only used as a conflict between her and Hatice, which they get over relatively quick. Sisterly love and ambition are a much bigger priority of Şah's: she cared about Hatice past any resentment she may have harbored over the years and agreed to share her life with Lütfi for the advantage this may bring, even though she didn't love him at all. She divorced him only when he offended the pride of a woman and her own personal pride. Other than that, we indeed didn't have a female character in MC that puts her feelings behind in design as far as I recall, only ones that end up clinging to them completely like Nigar here or ones that let go of them eventually like Mahidevran. Characters that have this design by default are more present in MCK like Safiye, or Turhan, or especially Gülbahar, but as I've said many times, MCK is more ruthless, while MC is more about the personal feelings of the characters, hence every motivation they have is somehow tied to them.]

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Kızlar Türkiye ikincisi

Türkiye Kulüpler Kros Ligi (U-18 Kadınlar) 4X100 Metre Bayrak Yarışı, Balıkesir’in Ayvalık kazasında yapıldı. Dilay Yıldızhan, Esmanur Yılmaz, Aslı Aydın ve Songül Akyol’dan oluşan 4X100 Metre U-18 Beşiktaş Hatun Grubu, 15.58’lik kademeyle Türkiye ikincisi oldu.

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This pink dress was first worn by Esmanur Hatun in the tenth episode of the third season of Magnificent Century.

It is seen again on Atike Sultan in the twenty-first episode of Magnificent Century: Kösem.

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This dark pink kaftan with a golden and light pink flower kaftan was first worn by Mihrimah Sultan in the third episode of the second season of Magnificent Century. It appeared again twice in the third season. First on Esmanur Hatun in the thirteenth episode and then on Nergisşah Sultan in the thirty-first episode.

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This purple kaftan was first worn by Mihrimah Sultan in the third episode of the second season of Magnificent Century. The kaftan is seen again on Esmanur Hatun in the twelth episode of the third season.

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This light pink dress with pink and golden accent trimming is first worn by Esmanur Hatun in the twelth episode of the third season of Magnificent Century. It is seen again on Nergisşah Sultan in the thirty-first episode of the same season. The dress is also worn by Şehzade Bayezid's daughter Ayşe Sultan in the thirtieth episode of the fourth season.

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This pinkish brown cloak was first worn by Mihrimah Sultan in the thirtieth episode of the second season of Magnificent Century. It was used again twice in the third season. First on Esmanur Hatun in the eleventh episode and then on Huricihan Sultan in the thirty-third episode. The cloak is seen again on Şehzade Bayezid's daughter Hatice in the thirty-fourth episode of the fourth season.

Magnificent Century: Kösem used the cloak as a cape on Princess Farya Bethlen in the second episode of the second season. The brooch that previously decorated the closure is missing here.

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Master Post - Women

Themes

Costumes | Jewellery | Props

Valide Sultan

Halime Sultan

Handan Sultan

Hafsa Sultan

Kösem Sultan

Nurbanu Sultan

Safiye Sultan

Turhan Sultan

Haseki Sultan

Ayşe Sultan (Harem of Murad IV)

Dilaşub Sultan

Hümaşah Sultan (Harem of Ibrahim I)

Hürrem Sultan

Mahidevran Sultan

Muazzez Sultan

Sultanas by birth

Atike Sultan

Ayşe Sultan (Daughter of Kösem)

Ayşe Sultan (Daughter of Şehzade Bayezid)

Ayşe Hümaşah Sultan

Beyhan Sultan (Daughter of Hafsa)

Beyhan Sultan (Daughter of Turhan)

Bican Sultan

Dilruba Sultan

Esmahan Sultan

Fahriye Sultan

Fatma Sultan (Daughter of Hafsa)

Fatma Sultan (Daughter of Kösem)

Gevherhan Sultan (Daughter of Kösem)

Gevherhan Sultan (Daughter of Nurbanu)

Hanzade Sultan

Hatice Sultan (Daughter of Hafsa)

Hatice Sultan (Daughter of Şehzade Bayezid)

Hümaşah Sultan (Daughter of Safiye)

Huricihan Sultan

İsmihan Sultan

Kaya Sultan

Mihrimah Sultan (Daughter of Hürrem)

Mihrimah Sultan (Daughter of Şehzade Bayezid)

Nergisşah Sultan

Şah Sultan (Daughter of Hafsa)

Şah Sultan (Daughter of Nurbanu)

Concubine Sultanas

Defne Sultan

Farya Sultan/Farya Bethlen

Gülbahar Sultan

Mahfiruze Sultan

Meleksima Sultan

Mihrünnisa Sultan

Rana Sultan

Concubines & Harem Members

Afitap Hatun

Akile Hanim

Anna Hatun

Ayşe Hatun (Harem of Şehzade Mustafa)

Cihan Hatun

Dilşah Hatun

Efsun Hatun

Elanur Hatun

Elif Hatun (Harem of Şehzade Mustafa)

Fatma Hatun

Firdevs Hatun

Firuze Hatun

Gülfem Hatun

Gülnihal Hatun

Gülsen Hatun

Hanife Hatun

Hazal Hatun

Helena Hatun

Katerina Hatun

Mahfiruz Hatun

Nazenin Hatun

Neze Hatun

Nurbahar Hatun

Olga Hatun

Rümeysa Hatun

Sadıka Hatun

Sanavber Hatun

Şayeste Hatun

Yasemin Hatun

Zarife Hatun

Unnamed Harem Members

Servants

Afife Hatun

Canfeda Hatun

Daye Hatun

Derya Hatun

Dudu Hatun

Elif Hatun (Servant of Gevherhan Sultan)

Emine Hatun

Esma Hatun

Eycan Hatun

Fahriye Kalfa

Fidan Kalfa

Gülbahar Kalfa

Gülperi Hatun

Gülşah Hatun

Gülşah Kalfa

Hatice Kalfa

Hircan Kalfa

Kumru Hatun

Lalezar Kalfa

Melek Hatun aka Madame Margaret (Servant of Farya Bethlen)

Melek Kalfa (Servant of Fatma Sultan)

Meleki Hatun

Menekşe Hatun

Nadia Hatun

Nazlı Hatun

Nigar Kalfa

Ottoman Citizen

Armin Hatun

Cevher Hatun

Dilanur Hatun

Eleni Hatun

Esmanur Hatun

Ester Hatun

Foundation Ladies

Hanım Ağa

Kalika Hatun

Rakel Hatun

Sabiha Hatun

Zeynep Hatun

Unnamed Istanbul Citizens

Europeans

Anna Jagiellon

Carmina

Catherine of Brandenburg

Gabriella Sfenza De Feo

Gracia Mendes Nasi

Isabella Jagiellon

Princess Isabella Fortuna

Portia Gritti

Sara Hatun

Signora Benetto

Silvia Conterini

Unnamed European Characters

Other

Aybige Hatun

Eftelya Hatun

Rita Hatun

Saliha Hatun

[redrosecut]

How could I forget them all? Is there even one suicidal men in these shows or is this a trope reserved for women? It definitely isn't a good trope and honestly a cop-out to not have to deal with the actual trauma these characters suffered that supposedly brought them to that point.

I kinda understand Fatma Hatun because her concubine career was basically over (Mustafa didn't seem to be interested in her anymore), she lost her chance at power and status by losing her son and she always seemed like an ambitious person. Her only redeeming quality in my opinion.

Nigar...we don't talk about it. You already analyzed her story well enough.

Mihrünnisa didn't make sense to me. Yes, she lost her husband and her child but she was still a free woman with a found family. It seemed like Mahidevran was like a mother to her and Nergissah like a daughter. Her killing herself wasn't satisfying in my opinion.

Hatice had mental health problems which were never ever dealt with. So okay fine I accept it.

Handan's death was just as stupid as Gevherhan's to me.

Elanur, I kind of understood, because she was facing death one way or another. She went out on her own terms.

Daye should have just retired to her country lodge. Honestly, she should have taken Nigar with her and hopefully get Esmanur one way or another. Found family etc. Both their suicides didn't serve the story and character at all.

While I like Gevherhan as a people pleasing tragic character, I still think she was the wrong sister to choose for the second season of Kösem. Especially since they basically changed everything essential about historical Gevherhan. If they wanted to show the brutal politics of marriage, they should have either continued with Ayse or properly introduced Fatma. They were both married seven times. I think it would have nicely contrasted the reality to Atike's teenage romantic idea of marriage. Or if they wanted to use Gevherhan after all, they should have stuck closer to history. So Topal being her second husband with whom she has two children and her living into her 50s. In my opinion, it would have fit better with Gevherhan's people pleasing character that she actually gave up on Silahtar but not remained at court. Let her be heartbroken, fine. But her killing herself was not the feminist retaking of control over her life it was framed as. Her finding happiness without a man would have been while Atike's marriage turned out the way we saw it. That would have been a major fuck you and pay off to, as Gevherhan said to Atike, "ruining their lives." But that instead Atike only ruined her own.

In my opinion, if they wanted to write Gevherhan out of the series, they should have made Kösem or Murad sent her to either Fatma or Ayse like it was done with Hatice's "banishment" to Mustafa's province in the main series. Problem solved and no unnecessary suicide.

Btw what's the series obsession with suicide btw? Hatice, Handan, Elanur and Gevherhan going through with it and Hürrem's constant suicidal tendencies. Has anyone done a deep dive into this trope?