#Epic the musical post canon

[iwritelmao]

Shovel Talk?

(there’s one suitor left in the the palace, but he’s not there for the Queen of Ithaca)

Penelope had long since fallen asleep as Telemachus sat silently outside her door, not quite able to break the habit yet. Odysseus had crept out of the room as soon as his wife had fallen asleep despite his intense want to stay near her. Still, he had to make sure the palace had been cleansed of the suitors.

Suddenly he heard heavy breathing coming from Telemachus’s chambers. Telemachus’s chambers that were supposed to be empty. He tightly gripped his sword and threw the door open, watching as an unfamiliar young man stumbled back, looking up at him with wide eyes.

“Are you a suitor?” Odysseus asked flatly, adjusting his hold on the sword.

“Yes,” the young man said. “But it’s not what you think, I’m not-”

“Stop.” He said. “What’s your name?”

The young man sputtered a bit before finally saying, “Nausicaas.”

“Nausicaas… you should have lied.”

“No…” Nausicaas took a few steps back as the king walked towards him with a raised sword. “No, it’s- it’s not what you think! I’m here for Telemachus!”

“You idiot…” Odysseus shook his head. “Did you see what happened to the rest of the suitors who tried to hurt my son?” He pressed the sword against the young man’s neck. “This is where it ends. With your death, my family is safe. Do you understand that?”

His eyes widened as he stared right into the king’s burning red eyes, alight. In what Nausicaas assumed would be his last moment, he squeezed his eyes shut and yelled, “Sir, I’m in love with your son!”

There was no pain, no sharpness of the blade, but the feeling of it against his neck didn’t leave. Nausicaas didn’t dare open his eyes.

“What?”

He opened one eye, catching sight of Odysseus’s confusion. “I am a suitor… for your son. I- I arrived here this morning to… to ask the Queen for her blessing to marry the prince… a-and now that you’re here I can, well… would it be okay if I proposed to your son?”

Odysseus stepped back, letting his sword fall to his side. He looked like he was sizing the young man up. “Where did you come from?”

“Sparta, sir. The Queen’s family in Sparta is close friends with my own.”

The king seemed to contemplate this for a moment. “You say you love my son?” Nausicaas nodded eagerly. It was almost endearing. “How much?”

The young man’s expression finally hardened into something a lot more Spartan than it had looked before. “I would end worlds for him, sir. I would renounce my name, my rank, my home—I would be of Ithaca only, Sparta be damned.” His eyes suddenly wandered to a spot over Odysseus’s shoulder, softening as a smile tugged his lips.

The king turned around to see his son in the doorway. “Telemachus.”

“Mother woke up,” he said, his voice distracted. “She had a fit when you weren’t next to her.”

Odysseus smiled, then turned back to look at Nausicaas. He held his arms out, warm and inviting, and enveloped the young man. “Thank you,” Nausicaas uttered, returning the hug as if it were a handshake, strong and unwavering.

“Be true.” Odysseus said, then lowered his voice. “And if you even think about hurting my family, I will dismember you and feed what’s left of you to what little sirens managed to escape my crew and I.” The boy tensed up in his arms and Odysseus smiled. “That is, if Penelope doesn’t get to you first.”

He felt the young man nod and let go, stepping back. The king stood in wait. Nausicaas’s lips formed a small “oh,” then walked past him to face Telemachus. “Telemachus, Prince of Ithaca…”

“Nausicaas,” the prince said, grabbing the young warrior’s hand and pulling him closer with a grin Odysseus recognized from his days trying his hardest to win Penelope’s attention. “Why so formal?”

A grin tugged at his lips. “Because this is important. I love you, Telemachus. I will always love you. If there is a life after this one, I will love you in that one too. Would you join me in declaring this love to the gods?"

Telemachus smiled and leaned forward to kiss Nausicass. "It only took you three years to ask."

"Is..." He said tentatively, "Is that a yes?"

Odysseus shook his head and made for the doorway, patting Nausicaas on the back before leaving. "Welcome to the family."

[backpackingspace]

Penelope: Hey husband I need you to pretend to be dead for a little bit okay?

Odysseus: What why?

Penelope: Well there's a guy out there who wants to give me free stuff so...

Odysseus: ohhh you're scamming someone. Of course I'll pretend to be dead my love! Want me to kill him afterwards?

[saixria]

I’m so happy guys you won’t even believe

[themysterioustaria]

Ekhem...

Excuse me, what the fuck is the manwhore au.

[ghostmaggie]

i am sooo setting myself up for hate with this but like...damn! y'all really hate epic calypso and i...really don't? i don't know if it's lack of background knowledge on one (or both) of our parts or just knowledge of different versions of the myth/character or different interpretations of love in paradise/not sorry for loving you but like...

calypso hurts odysseus. but not maliciously? he's a victim, and so is she.

i think possibly the lyric "under my spell we're stuck" is making people think she's the one keeping them on the island? she's not. she's a prisoner, too. hopefully the next saga makes that clearer? i think from the clips we've got of not sorry it might.

i don't think she's using the words of his dead friends to mock or trigger or harm him or even to try to manipulate him. it's possible she doesn't even realize what she's saying - how would she know the origins of those phrases? If she's hearing them as he talks in his sleep, even odds they sound like affirmations. they sound positive - i'll stay in your heart! greet the world with open arms! in the best possibility, she's trying to comfort him.

that is of course an optimistic view. call me polites, i guess. but even as she is hurting odysseus - and she is, i don't deny that! - i can't see it as because she's another example of an evil god. i think for better or worse - she doesn't know any better. it doesn't excuse her violations of boundaries, but she has a childlike, self-centered perspective because for so long she HAS just been herself. the world DOES revolve around her. it doesn't make it right. but it doesn't make her a villain.

i've already seen people complaining about how she refuses to apologize in not sorry for loving you. but she does. she apologizes for everything (say too little too late, fine, but she does) EXCEPT loving him. and her love has never been the thing causing harm. her actions have. she shouldn't apologize for loving him.

also also - within epic canon, as of what we know now, i don't think those aforementioned actions include sexual assault. there are differences between epic and the odyssey. that has been made abundantly clear. and other incidents of violence and sexual assault within epic are clearly articulated. if these aren't, i don't think we can assume they're there.

epic calypso isn't odyssey calypso. or pjo calypso. or any other calypso except: epic calypso.

[raayllum]

I'm just a man Whose fighting for his life Deep down I would trade the world To see my son and wife I'm just a man But when does a comet become a meteor? When does a candle become a blaze? When does a man become a monster? When does a ripple become a tidal wave? When does the reason become the blame? When does a man become a monster?

[onewhobringsvictory]

[out of character]

blog introduction!!

this is a roleplay, story-progressive and interactive blog from @anincurabledisease. this intro may not be the shortest.

this blog is dedicated to my greek mythology/epic the musical oc! and since i wanted to have a little bit of fun, i wanted to make it interactive

what i mean by that is each question reveals a part of the oc, it can be silly or serious, I don't mind, but basically the whole point is to try and figure out the oc's name, gender, story, etc.

more stuff [information from the surface, blog rules and about emoji-anons] under cut !

all the information I'm willing to give is that

they look like an adult man

they're with Odysseus and his men [before they..uh, yeah]

they're relatively quiet and keeps to theirselves most of the time

gets mad a little too easy, but they show they care

and is skilled in fighting, like a long-lasting warrior; even if they're just a seemingly young looking adult.

it isn't strictly accurate to greek, especially as the story goes on. so, I'm sorry about that T_T

they just look youthful but aren't young-young [like early twenty-ish is what I'm referring to]

they're a person with an air of mystery, and it's up to you to decide to figure it out or not

oc x canon [specifically hermes, ahem] , oc x oc , oc & canon, and oc & oc interactions/discussions from other roleplayers/askers are more than a-okay with me!! :)

feel free to dm me for more information!

and i do block freely, i also delete asks/comments, especially if they're not only harmful to me, but the people who interacts with this blog

emoji anons seem hella fun and I don't mind having them in my blog!! as long as they somehow fit the whole greek mythology/epic the musical theme ‹3

already claimed emojis !

🌻 — sunflower anon

[sleeping-at-sea]

OMORI CHARACTERS AND THEIR FAV EPIC SONGS!!! (im also gonna do another post for their fav PJO musical songs!!)

Sunny : No Longer You

Basil : We’ll Be Fine

Aubrey : Scylla or God Games

Kel : Keep Your Friends Close OR Survive

Mari : (also) We’ll Be fine

Hero : Charybdis

The Maverick : Any Hermes song OR Legendary orrrrr Just A Man

Mr Jawsum: Ruthlessness

aubrey’s fav saga is the circe saga

[sidecharactersdomatter]

I wrote my very first Epic fic after the latest livestream and it was totes worth it!

[wandastan-2]

Just finished Circe by Madeline Miller. Holy crap. I knew Circe was my favorite for a reason. Everything in that book is now canon.

[someoneoffthestreet]

cold take maybe but I'm thinking that there was no way the crew was going to survive the trip back to Ithaca in Epic. sure maybe in the timeline where Odysseus doesn't give his name, or the one where the wind bag isn't opened. but in the timeline where Odysseus chooses to die in the place of his crew, I don't think the remaining crew would've survived to make it home, and it's for a very simple reason. in the event of Odysseus' death, leadership would then fall to Eurylochus, and both Odysseus and the audience know that by this point, Eurylochus had given up.

Eurylochus was always the "realist" of the group from the jump, and he genuinely sounds so defeated in Mutiny; he heard what Odysseus was saying, I'd argue he knew killing the cows was a bad idea, but he simply didn't care anymore. "We're never gonna get to make it home, you know it's true." after everything said and done in Mutiny, would watching his brother, his captain, his king, willingly taking the fall for Eurylochus' deadly blunder really relight the fire under him and motivate him to get the remaining crew home? maybe, but the chances seem very low to me. in my head, after Odysseus died, the crew would just faff around the sea until they bumped into Poseidon again, starved, and/or ticked off someone/something else.

[backpackingspace]

Odysseus with his head in his wife's lap, happily not paying attention to anything, humming one of athenas song and carving something

Some random guy: your majesty----

Odysseus: not bothering to sit up: whatever my wife decided is fine.

[lemonduckisnowawake]

The bad thing about being a random medias lover but also being someone who studied lit and/or classics for 8 years is that I LOVE Epic the Musical so much (unironically) but am Pained by the reinterpretation of Odysseus' character in an attempt to character drive his epic.

Like obviously, it's not going to follow the OG story and themes perfectly and Jay's been clear on that. But also, I keep seeing so much missed opportunities to throw in some Golden Age of Athens philosophies (though I know the epics obviously happened way before) into the story or Missed Themes of the original epic that I know aren't the POINT of the musical but....

Anyway, what I am saying is that calling Epic the Musical an adaptation of the Odyssey PAINS ME as a literature student but makes me VERY happy as just a literature enjoyer

[kindred-spirit-93]

HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS SOONER OMFG MY EYES HAVE BEEN BLESSED I SNORTED SO MANY TIMES AHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

humble addition(s):

polites @ polyphemus' sheep: look at all these chickens (fave)

this is the skin of a killer bella pen (not a vine but its funny)

hi welcome to chilis but its circe @ eurys men

break dancing (?) to piano music: athena and tele lol

athena to ares when he dissed tele in god games: wtf is up ares. no what did u say. wtf dude. step tf up ares

hermes @ ody: WERE GOING ON A TRIP *dancey dance*

calypso when ody rejects her for the millionth time: why tf u lyin. why u always lyin. mmmm oh my gad. stop fuckin lyin

*penelope breathes*, camera pans to ody who turns around and is absolutely stupid in love: waow

odypen: hey. i think ur really cool. would u like to go hang out or something

ody killing the suitors: stahp i coulda dropped my croissont >:(

ody going insane on ogygia: freshavocado

aphrodite: LIPSTICK IN MY VALENTINO WHITE BAG??

the entire odyssey: road work ahead? yah i sure hope it does :/

ody @ ghosts of his men: i dont get no sleep cause of yall

hermes: oh ma gad i love moly. moly is my life

a winion flew around my room before u cam around *ody screaming*

athena: burnt chicken nugget

hermes and circe/ hermes and tiresias lol:

ody: calypso i wanna divorce (leave). calypos: divorce. ehehheeh (its kinda long but very fitting lol)

hermes: guaca-moly, gua guaca-moly *dancey dance intensifies*

suitors when ody left for war: its free real estate

*ody falls off a tree/ through a roof* hey pen. hey ody (pre odyssey)

tele @ athena: a stable parental figure?? athena: dO i LoOk-?

all the flute vines are aeolus i dont make the rules

polyphemus: they ask how u are and u just have to say ur fine but-

apollo is rileys dad from the ymca vine lol

penelope baking: 2 shots (?) of wine *pours significantly more*

tele to argos: it is wednesday my dudes *screams*

ody: welp when life gives u lemons *barely keeping it together*

when tele went on his lil adventure (i havent read the odyssey yet lol bear with me): ive never been to oovoo javer

i did smt

[whencartoonsruletheworld]

Hey so like many of you, I saw that article about how people are going into college having read no classic books. And believe it or not, I've been pissed about this for years. Like the article revealed, a good chunk of American Schools don't require students to actually read books, rather they just give them an excerpt and tell them how to feel about it. Which is bullshit.

So like. As a positivity post, let's use this time to recommend actually good classic books that you've actually enjoyed reading! I know that Dracula Daily and Epic the Musical have wonderfully tricked y'all into reading Dracula and The Odyssey, and I've seen a resurgence of Picture of Dorian Gray readership out of spite for N-tflix, so let's keep the ball rolling!

My absolute favorite books of all time are The Haunting of Hill House and We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson. Classic psychological horror books about unhinged women.

I adore The Bad Seed by William March. It's widely considered to be the first "creepy child" book in American literature, so reading it now you're like "wow that's kinda cliche- oh my god this is what started it. This was ground zero."

I remember the feelings of validation I got when people realized Dracula wasn't actually a love story. For further feelings of validation, please read Frankenstein by Mary Shelley and The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson. There's a lot the more popular adaptations missed out on.

Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier is an absolute gem of a book. It's a slow-build psychological study so it may not be for everyone, but damn do the plot twists hit. It's a really good book to go into blind, but I will say that its handling of abuse victims is actually insanely good for the time period it was written in.

Moving on from horror, you know people who say "I loved this book so much I couldn't put it down"? That was me as a kid reading A Little Princess by Frances Hodgson Burnett. Picked it up while bored at the library and was glued to it until I finished it.

Peter Pan and Wendy by JM Barrie was also a childhood favorite of mine. Next time someone bitches about Woke Casting, tell them that the original 1911 Peter Pan novel had canon nonbinary fairies.

Watership Down by Richard Adams is my sister Cori's favorite book period. If you were a Warrior Cats, Guardians of Ga'Hoole or Wings of Fire kid, you owe a metric fuckton to Watership Down and its "little animals on a big adventure" setup.

A Raisin in the Sun by Lorraine Hansberry was a play and not a book first, but damn if it isn't a good fucking read. It was also named after a Langston Hughes poem, who's also an absolutely incredible author.

Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury is a book I absolutely adore and will defend until the day I die. It's so friggin good, y'all, I love it more than anything. You like people breaking out of fascist brainwashing? You like reading and value knowledge? You wanna see a guy basically predict the future of television back in 1953? Read Fahrenheit.

Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain and To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee are considered required reading for a reason: they're both really good books about young white children unlearning the racial biases of their time. Huck Finn specifically has the main character being told that he will go to hell if he frees a slave, and deciding eternal damnation would be worth it.

As a sidenote, another Mark Twain book I was obsessed with as a kid was A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. Exactly what it says on the tin, incredibly insane read.

If Beale Street Could Talk by James Baldwin is a heartbreaking but powerful book and a look at the racism of the time while still centering the love the two black protagonists feel for each other. Giovanni's Room by the same author is one that focuses on a MLM man struggling with his sexuality, and it's really important to see from the perspective of a queer man living in the 50s– as well as Baldwin's autobiographical novel, Go Tell it on the Mountain.

Agatha Christie mysteries are all still absolutely iconic, but Murder on the Orient Express is such a good read whether or not you know the end twist.

Maybe-controversial-maybe-not take: Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov is a good book if you have reading comprehension. No, you're not supposed to like the main character. He pretty much spells that out for you at the end ffs.

Animal Farm by George Orwell was another favorite of mine; it was written as an obvious metaphor for the rise of fascism in Russia at the time and boy does it hit even now.

And finally, please read Shakespeare plays. As soon as you get used to their way of talking, they're not as hard to understand as people will lead you to believe. My absolute favorite is Twelfth Night- crossdressing, bisexual love triangles, yellow stockings... it's all a joy.

and those are just the ones i thought of off the top of my head! What're your guys' favorite classic books? Let's make everyone a reading list!

[anniflamma]

I literally had no idea an Epic The Musical fandom existed until tumblr decided to put one of your manwhore au post onto my dash (and I took it for canon for days...I was a bit behind the sagas)

So uh thanks for introducing me to this lovely chaos!! <3

Also you have banger art, keep doing what you love and have a great time :)

Omg, I hope you didn’t get disappointed… or revealed. Welp Im happy yet scared that au have introduced ppl to Epic 😅