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Telling children to follow their hearts is abusive.
#Follow your heart#child abuse#Disney crap#Disneyfication#the heart is deceitful above all things#For Out of the heart come evil thoughts
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taylor swift + peter pan
"you said you were gonna grow up... then you were gonna come find me."
#tswiftedit#tsedit#taylor swift#ttpd#the tortured poets department#peter pan#disneyedit#film#disney#mine#this took me so long bc my mac is crap!!!#ok bye now#gonna let my queue run#i was supposed to be asleep two hours ago
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Just a silly guy, with silly silly thoughts.
@glowweek Day 2
Casual | Surprise
A casual surprise?😬😬😬
#Hooooo boiii this lad is about to get funky.#He was internally screaming the whole time.#It's in my core memory as a connverse fan. I'm never truly going to let this up I believe. haha#Our boy really one day went out there wanting to get married as a teen like a true classic Disney princess. 😭#It was honestly endearing but sad and also pretty embarrassing. 😔#Secondhand embarrassment aside. Steven is pretty much lucky in the romance department. Which. Deserved by the way. With all the other#crap he had to deal with.#connverse#Steven Quartz Universe#Connie Maheswaran#SU#my shiz#teal#SU comic#glowweek#connverse week#I have no idea if whatever Connie is spouting are actuallt true in real life. Good thing this can be chalked off as just a thing in their#fictional world.#Also I'm glad part of that was covered by Connie's body because I had to take a few notes from chat GPT to add in her enumerated rambling.#I had to make the glow bracelet float like that because I couldn't draw his hand holding it quiet right in that angle.#And yea that size difference is no error. That's how small Connie's wrist is compared to his hands. Or at least something like that.#comic
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yeah yeah yeah everyone put "someone pulls the "leola wouldn't have wanted this" card to aaravos" on your s7 bingo cards STAT
#its gonna be ezran. i can tell.#I'M LITERALLY PROPHETIC YOU GUYS#tdp#the dragon prince#tdp s6#tdp spoilers#tdp s6 spoilers#leola tdp#aaravos#the disney princess vibes are strong but are also simultaneously crapped on and i love that for us#tdp s7#continuethesaga#giveusthesaga#continue the saga
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I like how the two discussions I see about AI imagery is like "everything can be art and if you say AI art isn't art you're a gatekeeping loser also fuck copyright" and the other half of it is "these fourteen year old girls got a bunch of pornography generated of them and distributed to their schools and also there's books about food on Amazon that were written by chat GPT that will literally poison and kill you all the way to death if you listen to them"
#its ok to admit that AI generated stuff is crap that sucks its fine#you wont become a disney shill that wants to destroy transformative works by admitting that AI sucks donkey balls#because it does lol#it works for comedy to an extent but thats almost all its good for
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knowing there was going to be a general grievous Star Wars movie & it got canned years ago & now “the mandalorian and grogu” is gonna be the next theatrical Star Wars movie makes me wanna pume. I want to see general grevious as the wolf of Wall Street not Dave Filoni’s Infinity War.
#don’t get me wrong a grevious movie would probably suck ass but it would be so funny#mandalorian and grogu is just gonna be more of the lamest shit imaginable and Dave will continue to fail upward#filoni is so far pretty incapable of making anything good and he relies way too much on interconnected stories#just like all bad disney crap#im preaching to the choir but I do ever so love to sing with them
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Time to get back into things
(Hi everyone, it's me! And it's been a really long time since I've touched this place. Still, I hope to continue what I started even though 2 years had passed since. Without further ado, hope you all enjoy!)
Wordcount: 700
A Little Story For You
Back then, Jamil didn't feel that it was likely he would wake up next to someone, yet here he was. His eyes scan the person before him, face half buried in the heavy blanket they shared and lashes long and curling naturally. The prefect of the once defunct Ramshackle dorm became an unlikely partner to Jamil, one he didn't expect to ever bear his heart to. His firm fingers reach out, tracing the skin of their cheek and near their eye. The prefect saw him at his worst, heard him at his lowest and felt him when he allowed the darkness of his heart to consume him. His thumb brushes their brow and he lets out a huff when they make a sound, stirring awake.
“Good morning.” He whispers.
Those hands of theirs, ones that never felt the hardships he did held onto him so tightly that he could still feel the marks of their nails on his palms. His gaze meets their moonstone eyes, opening blearily and searching for clarity. That gentle gaze held the desperate hope that pulled him out of his blot, the murmurs those lips screamed his name.
“You may not value my life!” They screamed, their body dirtied by broken marble and powdered cement, hands pulling at him in a desperate attempt to pull him out of the sand that threatened to swallow him whole. The blot sticks to them like tar, tainting them with its heavy poison, entering their veins like snake's venom.
“But I still value yours!” Those words shook Jamil's core, how someone was able to be so compassionate despite the treatment they faced. Despite the betrayal, the wounds, and the fact he was willing to hurt them just because his heart yearned for freedom.
“Jamil!”
“...Jamil?”
He blinks, their eyes beginning to shine once they come to. He huffs a laugh, pressing his forehead against theirs and their hands cupping both of his cheeks. “Yeah, it's me.” He says and the prefect makes a contented hum. “Mmn. Today's your special day.” They say, curling into his touch. “I wanna spend it with you but…”
“But?”
“Bed's too comfy.” They murmur. “Need more sleep.”
“C'mon, spending all day in bed is boring.” He lightly collides their foreheads together but not in the way that it hurt. “But…sleeping in does sounds nice.” The prefect lets out a tired but victorious laugh and assumes their next sleeping position. “Hyu-hyu-! ‘Told ya so.”
Jamil was morning person, at least that's what his aching back was telling him. He sat by his mirror, twirling his magical pen to get his hair into a decent look.
“Hey Jamil, Ortho from Ignihyde is here to see you.” Said one of his juniors, popping his head into his bedroom. Jamil pauses, thoughts searching.
“Ortho? Ah, right. Let him in.”
Not soon after, the little android boy from Ignihyde floats all excitedly. “Jamil Viper, happy Birthday once again!" He says, moving towards him with a box in his hand. "Are you ready for part 2-Oh! did I come in at the wrong time?" He spies the prefect still sound asleep on Jamil's bed, their hand out peaking out of the blanket.
"No, it's fine. I'm just letting them be for now." He reaches out, intertwining his fingers with theirs and squeezing it. "You said something about a part 2?"
"Yes! I did some analysis and surveying and managed to pinpoint what you really wanted for your birthday! And it's specially made by my big brother." Ortho pounds his chest with pride. Jamil lets out a small, amused laugh and takes the box. It definitely was not a commercial grade refrigerator but he'll take what he can get.
"Thanks Ortho." Jamil says and opens up his gift. The small, compact 3-way mirror was exactly what he needed. "You've got good timing too. I needed something like this right about now."
"Hehe, I'm glad you found good use for it so quickly!"
The prefect stirs, their body moving as the noise rouses them from their sleep. Jamil smiles at them before looking back at Ortho. "We should move this to another room. But tell me, what else can your big brother do?"
#works from the typewriter#twisted wonderland#disney twisted wonderland#jamil viper x reader#ortho shroud#holy crap i havent touched this in ages#how to tags work again#help#but srsly i really wanna get back into this#jamil viper#twst x reader
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#😂 Grover in the back like ‘oh crap’#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson and the olympians#pjo disney+#pjo tv series#pjo tv adaptation#pjo tv spoilers#pjo spoilers#s1#1x03#grover underwood#percy jackson#annabeth chase#annabeth and percy#percy and annabeth#percy x annabeth#annabeth x percy#percabeth
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Domestic Cat Felis catus
2/16/2023 Disney California Adventure Park, California
One of the more well-known Disney cats, because she can frequently be seen hanging out near Grizzly River Run and being admired by parkgoers. Her name is Francisco! The Disneyland Resort actively encourages these feral cats to hang around, as they help with rodent control, but will remove any that become aggressive towards people.
#hazards of taking pictures at disney parks: while I was taking these either chip or dale came up behind me and scared the crap out of me#cat#cats#mostlycatsmostly#domestic cats#feral cat#feral cats#also: I am a HUGE advocate for keeping your cats indoor-only or outdoor under control (leash)#I don't love that disney encourages feral cats BUT they do TNR them afaik and there's not a crazy number of them#I feel like it's relatively rare to see them nowadays?? when I was a kid I saw at least one or two per visit#regardless. big disclaimer bc I am primarily a bird/wildlife blog#I do not approve of outdoor cats lmao#my photos#disneyland#disney parks
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Hello dead fandom number 5432
#my art#my artwrok#aestheitcs#my artwork#my art crap#fanart#art#motorcity#motorcity art#motorcity dutch#motorcity Disney#duke of detroit#fan artwork#fan art#original art
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I can't believe we are already touching on May Castellan. In fives years (or more) we are going to finally see her and find out what happened-so rewarding.
#percy jackson#disney#annabeth chase#pjo series#percy jackon and the olympians#pjo#pjo tv show#percy jackson and the olympians#luke castellan#may castellan#hermes is still a piece of crap and ill never like him#lin manuel miranda#hermes#grover underwood
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/small rant. e.e
𝐌𝐲 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐮𝐩𝐨𝐧 𝐬𝐞𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐳𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐩 𝐨𝐟 𝐅𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐨 𝐱 𝐄𝐬𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥𝐝𝐚 𝐨𝐧 𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐞𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐚𝐫𝐭.
𝑫𝒐 𝑰 𝒈𝒆𝒕 𝒘𝒉𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒐𝒏 𝒅𝒚𝒏𝒂𝒎𝒊𝒄 𝒊𝒔 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈, 𝒎𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒖𝒑, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒖𝒏 𝒕𝒐 𝒆𝒙𝒑𝒍𝒐𝒓𝒆? 𝒀𝑬𝑺.
(It's very fun. Especially for me as the writer, because it allows me to explore a screwed up mind with the consent of another writer, but ... you can write something without glorifying it. Yeah?)
𝘉𝘶𝘵... 𝘸𝘩𝘺... 𝘞𝘏𝘠 𝘪𝘯 𝘎𝘖𝘋'𝘚 𝘕𝘈𝘔𝘌 𝘥𝘰 𝘸𝘦 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘪𝘵 𝘢 𝘱𝘢𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘳 𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱?
𝐈 𝐬𝐚𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐦𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦 𝐭𝐨𝐠𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐧'𝐭 𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭-𝐮𝐩 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐨𝐧, 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐚𝐥𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐰𝐞𝐢𝐫𝐝 𝐟𝐮𝐜𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐦𝐢𝐫𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐞𝐤𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐛𝐥𝐮𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐡𝐞'𝐬 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐢𝐦 ...𝐨𝐫 𝐢𝐧 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐦𝐬... 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐡𝐞'𝐬 ...𝐒𝐌𝐈𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐆 .. 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐭'𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐢𝐫𝐝. 𝐈'𝐦 𝐬𝐨𝐫𝐫𝐲, 𝐢𝐭'𝐬 .. 𝐰 𝐞 𝐢 𝐫 𝐝.
𝑊𝘩𝑖𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑓𝑢𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑙𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑐𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 / 𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑑 / 𝑤𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑟, 𝑒𝑡𝑐... 𝑤𝘩𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑤𝑒 𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑧𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑔𝑙𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑓𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑡𝘩𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏𝑖𝑛𝑔?
𝖳𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝖺𝗋𝖾 𝖺 𝗅𝗈𝗍 𝗈𝖿 𝗏𝗂𝗅𝗅𝖺𝗂𝗇 / 𝗁𝖾𝗋𝗈𝗂𝗇𝖾 ..... 𝗏𝗂𝗅𝗅𝖺𝗂𝗇 / 𝗉𝗋𝗂𝗇𝖼𝖾𝗌𝗌... 𝖾𝗍𝖼 𝗂𝗇𝗍𝖾𝗋𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇𝗌 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖽𝗒𝗇𝖺𝗆𝗂𝖼𝗌 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗇 𝖻𝖾 𝖽𝖺𝗋𝗄 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖿𝗎𝗇 𝗍𝗈 𝖾𝗑𝗉𝗅𝗈𝗋𝖾. 𝖣𝗂𝗌𝗇𝖾𝗒 𝗁𝖺𝗌 𝗆𝖾𝗌𝗌���𝖽 𝖺𝗋𝗈𝗎𝗇𝖽 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗌 𝖺 𝖼𝗈𝗎𝗉𝗅𝖾 𝗈𝖿 𝗍𝗂𝗆𝖾𝗌 𝗂𝗇 𝗌𝗎𝖻𝗍𝗅𝖾𝗍𝗒 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖨 𝗀𝖾𝗍 𝗂𝗍... 𝖻𝗎𝗍 𝖨 𝗃𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗇 𝗇𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗋 𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗎𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗒 𝗌𝖾𝖾 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗃𝗎𝗌𝗍𝗂𝖿𝗂𝖼𝖺𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝖧𝗈𝖭𝖣, 𝖺𝗌 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝖺𝗌 𝖽𝖺𝗆𝗇 𝗇𝖾𝖺𝗋 𝖺𝗅𝗋𝖾𝖺𝖽𝗒 𝗍𝗈𝗈 𝖽𝖺𝗋𝗄 𝗍𝗈 𝗋𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗒 𝖻𝖾 𝗆𝖺𝖽𝖾 𝗂𝗇𝗍𝗈 𝖺 𝖣𝗂𝗌𝗇𝖾𝗒 𝖿𝗂𝗅𝗆 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝗄𝗂𝖽𝗌 𝖺𝗇𝗒𝗐𝖺𝗒 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖨 𝗐𝗂𝗅𝗅 𝖽𝗂𝖾 𝗈𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖿𝗎𝖼𝗄𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗁𝗂𝗅𝗅. 𝖸𝗈𝗎 𝖽𝗈𝗇'𝗍 𝗌𝖾𝖾 𝖺 '𝖫𝖾𝗌 𝖬𝗂𝗌𝖾𝗋𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾𝗌' 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝗄𝗂𝖽𝗌... 𝖻𝖾𝖼𝖺𝗎𝗌𝖾 𝗂𝗍'𝗌 𝖵𝗂𝖼𝗍𝗈𝗋 𝖧𝗎𝗀𝗈 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗂𝗍'𝗌 𝖽𝖺𝗋𝗄... 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗋𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗒 𝖽𝗈𝖾𝗌𝗇'𝗍 𝗇𝖾𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝗁𝖺𝗉𝗉𝖾𝗇. 𝖨 𝖽𝗈𝗇'𝗍 𝗄𝗇𝗈𝗐. 𝖨 𝗀𝖾𝗍 𝗂𝗍 𝖻𝗎𝗍 𝖺𝗀𝖺𝗂𝗇, 𝖨 𝗌𝖾𝖾 𝖧𝗈𝖭𝖣 𝖿𝗂𝗍𝗍𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗂𝗇𝗍𝗈 𝖺 𝗐𝗁𝗈𝗅𝖾 𝖽𝗂𝖿𝖿𝖾𝗋𝖾𝗇𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗍𝖾𝗀𝗈𝗋𝗒 𝗈𝖿 𝗋𝗎𝗅𝖾𝗌.
𝖨 𝖺𝗆 𝖺𝗅𝗌𝗈 𝖺𝗅𝗅 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝖼𝗋𝖾𝖺𝗍𝗂𝗏𝗂𝗍𝗒 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖠𝖴 𝗌𝗂𝗍𝗎𝖺𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇𝗌 𝗐𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗒𝗈𝗎 𝗆𝖺𝗄𝖾 𝖼𝖾𝗋𝗍𝖺𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗌 𝗁𝖺𝗉𝗉𝖾𝗇 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗆𝖺𝗄𝖾 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗋𝗄.... 𝗐𝗁𝖺𝗍𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗋. 𝖥𝗈𝗋𝗀𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝗆𝖾. 𝖨 𝗃𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖽𝗈𝗇'𝗍 𝗌𝖾𝖾 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖻𝖾𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖺 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖲𝖧𝖮𝖴𝖫𝖣 𝗁𝖺𝗉𝗉𝖾𝗇 𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗌 𝗌𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗒 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗌𝖾 𝖼���𝖺𝗋𝖺𝖼𝗍𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝖻𝖾𝖼𝖺𝗎𝗌𝖾 𝗂𝗍'𝗌 𝗃𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝗇𝗈𝗍 𝗌𝖾𝗍 𝗎𝗉 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗒𝗈𝗎'𝗋𝖾 𝗄𝗂𝗇𝖽 𝗈𝖿 𝗆𝖾𝗌𝗌𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗎𝗉 𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗋𝗒𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝗐𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗆𝖺𝗄𝖾𝗌 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗌𝖾 𝖼𝗁𝖺𝗋𝖺𝖼𝗍𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝗀𝗋𝖾𝖺𝗍 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗎𝗇𝗂𝗊𝗎𝖾.
(𝖠𝗀𝖺𝗂𝗇. 𝖢𝖺𝗇'𝗍 𝗌𝗍𝗈𝗉 𝖺𝗇𝗒𝗈𝗇𝖾 𝖿𝗋𝗈𝗆 𝖽𝗈𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖼𝗋𝖺𝖼𝗄 𝗌𝗁𝗂𝗉𝗌 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗋𝖺𝗇𝖽𝗈𝗆 𝗉𝖺𝗂𝗋𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗌. 𝖨𝗍'𝗌 𝗂𝗇𝗇𝗈𝖼𝖾𝗇𝗍.)
𝖡𝗎𝗍 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗌... 𝖨 𝗃𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖼𝖺𝗇'𝗍 𝗀𝖾𝗍 𝗈𝗏𝖾𝗋 𝗂𝗍.
SORRY, HAD TO COMPLAIN SOMEWHERE & PUT MY THOUGHTS DOWN OOPS.. XD
Edit; Also, as a comment stated, I know that sometimes these things are depicted in fanfiction and art because the creator is kind of basing it off of what THEY like and they are kind of depicting what they want and because they are the ones who lust for Frollo, not Esmeralda... but it just gets weird to see over and over sometimes because I don't always know who legitimately thinks it's a REAL thing and who understands it's just something they LIKE.
........FFS. Please do not come find me with that "𝘌𝘴𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘧 𝘵𝘰 𝘍𝘳𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘰 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘧𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘪𝘯 𝘭𝘰𝘷𝘦".. horse shit. You will literally be blocked asf. (Also, in canon.. he's a fucking pedophile and is mooning over a girl who is supposed to be 16... and then he attempts to sexually assault her. Thank you.
#why do you people do this crap#are you guys okay#i have questions now#im not new to this info but it still disturbs me#claude frollo#the hunchback of notre dame musical#disney#hunchback musical#hunchback#notre dame de paris#hunchback of notre dame#roleplay#ranting#ooc#discord writer#disney rp#you can like a dynamic without making it a relationship#soap box time
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Honestly though, as much as I'm annoyed that Carlos didn't appear or at least get mentioned in Beyond the Isle of The Lost and what he is doing after D3 while his friends do appear and mention what they doing, I still will take it over The Royal Wedding and their mention of him, aka implying he's dead, because that's still more disrespectful then not mentioning him at all. At the very least that one is clearly Melissa not knowing how to handle the situation with Carlos and therefore, deciding to not touch on it while Royal Wedding felt the need to do so so they could be fine with themselves when deciding to drag Disney Descendants out beyond three films.
#disney descendants#descendants#beyond the isle of the lost#its still a crap book#and its still iffy to not even give a mention to what carlos is doing#as really? is saying hes busy with animal stuff and jane's with him that hard to say???#(granted they couldnt even give jay much details so guess it must be a D3 situation where anyone whose not mal#got lucky to even be present in the scene)#but like its better then deciding to use a mention to imply hes dead#because apparently we can't just say the character is busy or running late or somewhere else#no no no we just gotta kill them off apparently#(seriously its not a descendants only issue#movies and tv shows as a whole has it#but like what the fuck)
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I drew this years ago and I'm still not sure what I was on about
#the boxtrolls#crowfish crap#old art#lpr#laika fanart#archibald snatcher#you can tell it's old art because i was still using a spiral notebook#shitpost#and at the time an acquaintance of mine looked over my shoulder and said “why does he look like the disney version of a pedo”
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An argument I hear from time to time is the following:
"I don't care that this novel is considered Legends, if it was canon when George Lucas was in charge of Lucasfilm, it's still canon to me now. Whatever George says is what counts, I don't care what Disney says."
Putting the Expanded Universe's Star Wars and George Lucas' Star Wars in the same basket. And that's, uh... inaccurate.
So without further ado, let's explore:
George Lucas’ involvement in the Expanded Universe
Early years of the EU...
When the first bit of EU content came out in the form of the novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye, Lucas was too busy working on the films, so Alan Dean Foster wrote it by himself (which explains why Luke and Leia's relationship plays out romantically).
After the movies came out, when new material was going to be created, George told Lucas Licensing and other authors that the Prequel era was off-limits to write about, because he might tell that story one day.
Beyond that, they could go to town and write sequels, for instance. After all, part of why Star Wars was created was to let people's imagination run wild and George was happy to let other artists play in the sandbox he created.
That said, things were very clear from the get-go.
These weren't his stories.
The Thrawn books, Dark Empire, all this material was explicitly just Tom Veitch and Timothy Zahn and whoever else's creation. Not George's, who was described by Lucas Licensing's Lucy Autrey Wilson as "not very involved".
The most he did was answers "OK/Not OK" questionnaires about what the EU writers could or couldn't write.
Telling Yoda's backstory? Not OK.
Telling Han's backstory, between the Prequel and Ep. 4? OK.
Having someone wear Vader's suit after his death? Not OK.
The Emperor returning in a clone body? OK.
So that's it. That was his involvement in the 90s.
Him saying "don't write something set during this/that period".
"OK/Not OK" questionnaires.
It's also worth mentioning he didn't approve of Mara Jade, Luke's wife in the EU. In his mind, "Jedi don't marry".
Rather, the character herself wasn't an issue... until she married Luke. When Timothy Zahn asked for Luke and Mara to be married or engaged, back in 1993, Lucasfilm initially vetoed the idea.
According to Brian Jay Jones (author of "A Life", George Lucas' biography), in 1995 George convened a 'Star Wars Summit' wherein he gathered licensees and international agents to Skywalker Ranch to reinforce "the need for him to maintain quality control, especially in the areas of publishing, where some characters—such as Luke Skywalker, who’d been given a love interest in a fiery smuggler named Mara Jade—were living lives far beyond the ones he had written for them in the original trilogy".
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During the Prequels...
George Lucas was writing and directing three movies with large themes, shot almost back-to-back, commuting between Australia and California. That's hard enough as it is.
Also, in the 90s, most movies were still shot on film. During the making of Phantom Menace, Lucas shot parts of the film by combining prototype digital Sony cameras and using them in combination with videotapes, rather than shooting on film.
For Attack of the Clones, George worked with Panavision and Sony to develop fully digital cameras, which eventually became the standard.
As if that wasn't enough, by making the Prequels, Lucas and ILM were also creating fully-digitized worlds (Coruscant, Geonosis) and characters (Jar Jar, Yoda) and laying the groundwork for the CGI technology that has now become essential for today's blockbusters.
Having established all this...
Do you really think he had the time or the patience to read through a bunch of novels and guidebooks?!
Simply put: George Lucas was too busy revolutionizing cinema to be involved in the development of the EU.
So if you ask George who Tahl or Vitiate are, or what the Stark Hyperspace War or a vapor manifold are, if you ask him to recite you the Sith Code... he'll grumble and say "heck if I know".
He outright admitted that fans know more Star Wars lore than him.
Because SOMEBODY ELSE wrote that stuff.
And he let them do it because:
It made money. A lot of money, especially after TPM came out. Money that could fund his next films. You don't mess with licensing. Hell, it's why he was so cool with there being all those Star Wars parodies.
He didn't see those stories as canon anyway, so it couldn't hurt. He saw them as a separate universe, an alternate timeline wherein the films happened ALONG with all these other tales.
So associating the EU content with Lucas is unreasonable. He was too busy, so he just let Howard Roffman, Lucy Autrey Wilson, Sue Rostoni and Lucas Licensing do their thing and crank out new stories and transmedia content for the fans.
It was a one-way relationship. The licensing parallel universe needed to have some internal consistency AND adhere to what Lucas established in the new films movies (which was difficult because they weren't involved in the production process), but he didn't need to be in line or consistent with anything they established.
Now, George did set some guidelines/boundaries and there were obviously do's and don'ts. But once those boundaries were set and the brief was established, the authors had a lot of freedom and, like, 99% of their interaction was with their editors from the respective publishing houses (Scholastic, Del Rey, Dark Horse) and the folks at Lucas Licensing.
George was only really brought in to sign off on, like, some of the major plot points only once in a blue moon. Stuff like:
"Let's make a Maul novel". George would go "fine, just keep him mysterious."
"What species should Plagueis be?" George: "he could be a Muun, here's concept art."
Nothing more than that. Again: the Expanded Universe was other storyteller's interpretation of what Lucas had created.
Sometimes, it was spot on and it aligned with George's vision.
Other times, this additional lore was created by writers who didn't know what he was doing with the Prequels, so they were in the dark regarding certain plot points.
And then you have the authors who absolutely disagreed with George's vision of the Prequels, or of Star Wars, in general, but wanted to engage with the material nonetheless.
Which is why, whilst sometimes the EU fixed some plot-holes, sometimes the EU had inconsistencies.
Inconsistencies such as Ki-Adi Mundi being a Knight on the Council, who is married and has kids (when the Jedi being prohibited from marrying is a major plot point in the Prequels)...
… or the Jedi being essentially superhuman (when one of the narrative reasons Qui-Gon is killed is to show that the Jedi are mortals, not supermen)…
... or other stuff like Mace having a blue lightsaber for a period (because who the hell knew purple was an option?!) or some Jedi having red lightsabers, or Sith Lords being able to become ghosts after death, when that's a feat you can only achieve by being selfless.
It's also why you get conflicting definitions of what the Jedi call "attachment" or conflicting narratives trying to reframe midi-chlorians as a cold, intentionally-flawed way of seeing the Force (when they're meant to be a beautiful metaphor for symbiosis and how the Force works).
And it makes sense that some of this stuff wouldn't track, considering how Lucas stated multiple times that he didn't have anything to do with it, that it was a separate universe from his own...
Safe to say that if George had any involvement in the EU, it was so minimal that he, himself, didn't count it as "involvement".
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Later years of the EU...
After the Prequels were over and done with, Lucas created The Clone Wars with Dave Filoni. At first, he'd just suggest a few storylines, but he quickly got VERY involved in the whole process. Far more involved than he ever was with EU content.
And y'know... Dave Filoni is a massive Star Wars fan and an avid EU reader. So, from time to time, Filoni would bring up EU material for Lucas to consider during the story conferences, and they'd look at what was out there together.
But it's important to note that George's stance toward the EU didn't change and became a rule for everyone on the writing staff: the EU content was nothing more than a pool of "fun what-if ideas" that they could draw inspiration from.
If they could, they'd try to not mess with continuity... but if the story called for it, they could retcon anything without batting an eye. Because it wasn't canon to them.
It's why author Karen Traviss quit working with Lucasfilm after the Mandalorians were retconned into pacifists in The Clone Wars.
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The only things that were truly canon were:
George Lucas' own word.
The movies.
Previously established The Clone Wars lore.
And that's it.
Everything else was somebody's else's concern. Not George's.
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This way of seeing the EU continued all the way to the time shortly before George sold the company to Disney as his drafts for the Sequels featured:
no Jacen, Jaina or Anakin Solo (Han and Leia's kids from the EU),
a still-alive Chewbacca (who died, later in the EU),
no "New Jedi Order".
Every version of George's Sequels ignored the EU.
Which would explain why the EU reboot was planned in the summer of 2012 (when Lucas was in charge)!
I'll repeat: the EU reboot was planned months BEFORE George Lucas sold the company to Disney.
Because of course it was! It's a natural result of 30 years' worth of content that's so intermeshed that it would stop future artists - namely George himself - from creating anything else.
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Exceptions to the rule:
1. Comics (kinda)
He did read the comics. Or at least, he gave them a glance.
Aside from the fact that he grew up reading comics, understand that George Lucas is a visual artist, first and foremost.
That's what he's about and that's what he loves, that's what speaks to him. There's a reason his upcoming Museum of Narrative Art will feature comic panels and pages of all kind.
During pre-production on Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith, Lucas had the art team draw concept art before a script had ever been written so he'd have ideas for set-pieces.
Later on, J.W. Rinzler pitched him the idea of adapting his early drafts for Star Wars into comic form. Lucas' initial reaction was going "hell no". Rinzler had concept art made…
… and George took one look and was on board.
So it's not a stretch to assume that a book telling a story through beautiful drawings would catch his attention more than a novel.
Case in point: He knew who Quinlan Vos was and was enamored with the character. He knew Aayla enough to put her in Attack of the Clones after seeing a cover of Republic by John Forster featuring her (below, left).
(although, it's worth pointing out that he doesn't call her out by name a single time, in the director's commentary of the Attack of the Clones, she's just the "Twi'Lek Jedi" and her inclusion was done mainly to add more diversity to the Jedi fighting in the arena)
Over a decade later, when the comic Star Wars #7 came out in 2015, Lucasfilm acquired artist Simone Bianchi's original 20 pages and cover art for George, so he could feature it in his the Museum of Narrative Art:
So at the very least, he looked at the comics and admired the visuals.
Whether he actually read the comics in detail or just skimmed through most of them because he liked the pretty pictures (likelier, imo) is an entirely different matter.
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2. Video-Games (kinda)
Lucas would periodically check in on the status of LucasArts games, lending creative input and advice.
Sometimes, his advice ranged from "weird" to "he's gotta be fucking with us, right?"
Apparently, he advised the team developing Star Wars: The Force Unleashed that they dub Starkiller "Darth Insanius" or "Darth Icky".
And you know what? I have no trouble believing it.
Firstly because if you're going by the idea that he gave no fucks about the EU, then of course he'll come up with "meh" names. But also, this is the same guy who created "Winkie" in 2012/2013, the character who'd go on to be named "Rey".
He also told the team creating Star Wars: 1313 that he wanted a fresh face as the main character, then only weeks before the game was announced he went "let's make it Boba Fett".
Finally... the cancelled Darth Maul game by Red Fly.
Codenamed “Damage”, then “Battle of the Sith Lords”. Think Batman: Arkham City meets Star Wars.
Red Fly pitched it as a coming of age story where we see Maul be kidnapped, tortured, eventually joining the Dark Side, and ending in TPM. Then they had interactions with LucasArts and found out Maul survived his fight with Obi-Wan.
The game went through several iterations, partly because the people at Red Fly were kept in the dark about the developments in The Clone Wars (Season 4 wasn't out yet), and even when some tidbits came out and they knew characters like Savage Oppress and Death Watch would be included, they didn't get more details.
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Whatever. They do their best to make something from what they're told. Then they have a meeting with George. As this GameInformer article explains:
“A friendly George Lucas entered the room and was eager to hear the pitch from Red Fly’s creatives. “Before they could finish their spiel, Lucas cut them off, stood up, walked over to [two Sideshow Collectibles statues of Darth Maul and Darth Talon], rotated them to be facing the same direction, pushed them together, and said ‘They’re friends!’” adds the source. “He wanted these characters to be friends, and to play off of each other. […] The problem with the idea of Maul and Talon teaming up for a buddy cop-like experience was that they were separated by over 170 years […] When this vast time divide was brought up to Lucas’ attention, he brushed off the notion of it not working, and said that it could instead be a descendant of Darth Maul or a clone of him.”
So now the game is about a descendant of Maul, guided by his ancestor and fighting a redesigned Darth Krayt, etc?
The game was eventually cancelled when George sold the company.
Worth pointing out that this was circa 2010/2011... around the time that George started working on his Sequels, according to Jett Lucas. And we know that the treatment for the Sequels that Lucas presented to Bob Iger featured old man Maul and Darth Talon as the villains of the trilogy... take from that what you will.
3. The Prequel novelizations (kinda)
They were all given a copy of Lucas' screenplay.
While most of their work was with Sue Rostoni, Lucy Autrey Wilson, and Howard Roffman on the Lucasfilm team (like some of the other authors), Terry Brooks, R.A. Salvatore and Matthew Stover all spent a bit of time with George before writing their respective novels.
George told Terry Brooks to write some additional material for Anakin Skywalker because there wasn't enough of that in the movie. He was shown rushes from the set, they "opened the safe" for him. When Terry had further questions re: midi-chlorians and the history of the Sith, George goes on a 30-minute monologue about all that.
R.A. Salvatore had a 45-minute interview with him that turned into a 3-hour chat. He was able to go back to the Ranch a few times during the writing process, and one of those times George chatted with him and his wife during lunch. He was shown various cuts of the film and concept art.
Matthew Stover and George talked for a whole afternoon (I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume he was also shown the other stuff like some cuts/deleted scenes, concept art, etc etc).
Was there a line-edit of the ROTS novel from Lucas? Regarding the Revenge of the Sith novelization, some people bring up the idea that George Lucas did a line-edit on the book because Stover wrote this statement on theforce.net:
That said...
Stover, also stated that Lucas told him to write whatever he wanted as long as it was good,
he also said he didn't actually see Lucas type the edits,
an anonymous Del Rey editor stated on theforce.net that the notion that George edited the novel himself is "extremely incorrect".
There's enough "reasonable doubt" for the argument to be made that the Revenge of the Sith novelization was edited the same way as any other Star Wars novel, rather than by George himself.
The fact remains, though, that it was a novel written by someone who understood the source material, as it was explained to him in detail by George Lucas himself (a luxury many SW authors never got).
Lucas' backstory for the Sith in the TPM novel: If Pablo Hidalgo is to be believed, the backstory of the Sith, as detailed in the Phantom Menace novelization, came from Lucas.
(Obviously, I'd allow for the very likely possibility that there was some embellishment by Terry Brooks)
20 years later, however, it seems George decided to stick to the idea that there was no war between the Jedi and the Sith.
Final thought:
A lot of people will insist that George was involved in spite of all the above-posted evidence. Saying stuff like:
"But [X person] said that it was canon..."
Sometimes, they’ll link you to this whole website collecting quotes of other people saying "the EU was canon" (never George Lucas except for, like, one/two quotes where he acknowledges the existence of Sequel books which MUST mean he saw them as canon, right?) and...
On the one hand... of course they'll all vaguely say he's "involved" and tip-toe around the subject; it's technically true and, again, they're trying to make money. It's a business, folks.
On the other... yeah? Duh. Of course it was canon to Lucas Licensing and the authors who wrote for the EU. But it wasn't canon to George. And I just gave you a whole bunch of quotes directly from him and/or the same people quoted on that website, all confirming that he didn't see them as canon and he wasn't involved (or barely was).
Other times, we're straight-up approaching "burying head in the sand/lalalala I'm not listening!" levels of justifications.
Like, we just talked about the Sith's origins, right?
I remember a while ago, this Star Wars YouTuber was reviewing this quote from Lucas, in The Star Wars Archives: 1999-1995:
The YouTuber's reaction the second after reading the quote is saying:
"And of course, what George is referring to, here, is the Battle of Ruusan and the Brotherhood of Darkness using the Thought Bomb created by Lord Khan to kill the Jedi Lord Hoth and…"
My guy! You read a whole excerpt that started with "there was never a war between the Jedi and the Sith" and the words "Ruusan" or "Thought Bomb" never being mentioned once in the passage (or in the TPM novelization)... and concluded that George was referring to the Jedi/Sith Battle of Ruusan? And all that other EU stuff?
See what I mean, folks?
Now, look, I grew up with these stories (heck, I grew up with these stories in three different languages). So I get it. I know they're awesome.
And, yes, there is a difference between the kind of content we used to get and the content we're getting now (for one, lightsabers used to be lightsabers, in video-games, not baseball bats).
But if you're trying to prop up the EU, the facts show that the "George Lucas signed off on them" authority argument isn't a valid one. Because he clearly wasn't very interested or involved in it.
And why would you want to use this authority argument, anyway?
You shouldn't need to say "this came from Lucas" to like those stories. They don't need to be George Lucas Approved™ to matter and to be validated as "worthy of appreciation". They're valid on their own, they're great stories. And if you like them better than the Sequels, go to town. I know I do.
The only thing you can't do (with a straight face, at least) is hold them up as "the True Lucas-Approved Canon™ as opposed to the Disney Trash" in a rant, because you'd be wrong and/or lying. Neither had Lucas' hand in them in any meaningful way.
Finally... I was devastated when the EU was officially made non-canon, in 2014. And for a few years, I saw the new Star Wars continuity through this lens:
"Any EU content is still canon unless it's directly retconned...!"
Trust me, when I say that only pain lies that way. Because that's not how a lot of Star Wars creators, including the Flanelled One himself, see it. The way they saw/see it is:
"Unless it's been shown in a movie or TCW... it's a legend, it might have happened."
This line of thought seems to be increasingly applied to the new Disney canon too, by the way. "If it's not shown on a screen, then it's probably canon yet also up for grabs to be retconned."
And the sooner you accept that this is how it's being treated, the sooner you accept that the EU was never canon to Lucas or Filoni...
... the less painful it'll be when, I dunno, you watch The Acolyte and it's nothing like the Darth Plagueis novel or Plagueis himself is absent, or he's there, but as an Ithorian instead of a Muun.
(note how I didn't use the word "painless")
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