#Dick Turpin Hero

[martynrandles]

Tyson Fury announces retirement from boxing Monday 13th January 2025.

“Hi everybody, I’m going to make this short and sweet,” Fury said.

“I’d like to announce my retirement from boxing. It’s been a blast, I’ve loved every single minute of it.”

“I’m going to end with this - Dick Turpin wore a mask. God bless everybody, see you on the other side.”

[queermarzipan]

Oh my GOD

i might have found the most dedicated (brainrotted) good omens fan.

Hey y'all my beloved maggots, so in the spirit of having too much time and still recovering from my illness, your beloved Mascot was lurking on the lovely world wide web. I ended up, as one does, looking up what the fictitious '1810 clerkenwell diamond robbery' might have alluded to.

Of course I ended up with a bunch of tumblr and/or good omens results and then one bloody other search result. Which is what I'm sitting in utter bewilderment thinking about.

I'll link it at the end of the post, but to brief you on it, it was an article with an impressively detailed description of the supposed 1810 robbery, with the mastermind being (rather than Jane Austen, which is what I'd have expected the fake story to have) Richard Turpin. I didn't know who the fuck this was, so I looked him up, and found he was a highwayman who was executed in 1739 (there was a wee bit of bodysnatchin' involved, too). One of the diamonds in this article/story was also called the Star of South Africa, which when I looked it up, apparently is a diamond that was not discovered till the second half of the 19th century.

Which is all good lovely article impressive gonchposting but then I glance through the rest of the website and it seems to have actual articles about crime? I know nothing about stuff that happened after the Roman empire, so you are free to tell me about the legitimacy of the articles, but the fact remains that there are many articles, dating from July 2023 to February 2024.

I hear Good Omens season 2 came out on 28th July 2023, so this person set up an entire site in a few days, wrote an article with an anachronistic highwayman and diamond, and then proceeded to actually fill the rest of the site with articles? Am I in the correct timeline here? Has the internet lost its hivemind?

Please can someone explain this to me? Is this the final stage of the brainrot? Is this what I'm doomed to experience? Because if so I'm suing the entire Good Omens fandom, yes, you all, for infecting me with it.

Or have I lost it and I hallucinated this entire internet experience?

[edsrosetattoo]

The Completely Made-Up Adventures of Dick Turpin on Apple only exists because of Our Flag Means Death. Very loosely based on anti-colonial criminal folk heroes of the 1700s, filled with anachronisms, gay innuendos, gender-fluid characters, craft-time, a foppish newbie exaggerating his first kill, found family…sounds familiar.

That’s not a criticism at all, but like…yeah…just makes me miss OFMD even more.

[tophatandboots]

All this chatter about folk heroes has reminded me how annoyed I am when someone mentions dick turpin and means Claude DuVall

Turpin : known for being speedy. Shot people.

Du Vall / Duval / du Val (spelling varies) : known for being extremely stylish. Recognised within his own lifetime for being a dashing ladies' man. May have danced with a woman while her husband played the violin instead of stealing her jewellery. Memorial inscription focuses on how much of a slut he was

[ollieoliveoboelo22]

Music of TURN

Round 16

Don't forget round 15

Read 'Em John

1.05: Epiphany

There is a surprising lack of research done on this song. It incorporates a lot of musical traditions found in various African communities that were brought to the Americas in the slave trade. They merged with Western European music to what eventually became work songs, field hollers, shouts, and spirituals.

I've covered a lot of this in my jazz history class, but I am no expert and am just using my existing knowledge to give background an analysis for this song.

Read 'Em John incorporates a lot of this, especially shouts and call and response. I'm going to put in a quote from a proper analysis of the lyrics and story told.

"[John] Refers to John the Revelator, doing what the slave was not allowed to do--reading. But not just reading, but reading with an authority that no one else could match of the doom of his masters and the end of the wicked world they had created and ascent of the persecuted and good into heaven."

https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/04/carolina-chocolate-drops-read-em-john.html

It's worked beautifully into the scene when Cicero reads the attainder for Strong Manor that declared all slaves to be free. (not really since the men were instead sent to New York to join the Black Pioneers and Abigail to John Andre to be a house servent. And we have no idea what happened to the other enslaved women shown earlier in the season)

Turpin Hero

1.01: Pilot

This ballad is about the famous English Highwayman, Dick Turpin, (1705 - 1739) whose exploits of theft were romanticised following his execution. The song is believed (or has been claimed) to have been written before his execution.

After accidentally killing fellow highway robber Tom King on accident. Turpin went under the alias John Palmer and fled. He was arrested (as Palmer) about a year later for shooting another man's rooster and then threatening to shoot the man. His identity as Turpin was revealed while imprisoned by his former teacher who recognized his handwriting.

It's very fitting that the song's used as Abe goes to smuggle on the London Trade. An act that eventually brings him to Caleb and eventual formation of the Culper Ring. And just like horse theft (and murder) was punishable by death in the case of Turpin, spying was too for Abe.

[apilgrimpassingby]

Can you do denominations as English folklore???

This took me a while, because it's a fairly ambiguous question, but I got round to it: assigning each theological tradition which would usually be considered a legitimate form of Christianity to a figure from English, Welsh or Scottish folklore. Here we go:

Roman Catholicism: Jack (the stock protagonist of English folktales, "Jack and the Beanstalk" is the most famous today), because Roman Catholicism is, historically speaking, the generic form of Christianity (being by far the largest and most typical).

Orthodoxy: The Fairy Queen, because we're the other major Marian-venerating denomination and so we get the queen of the supernatural realm.

Miaphysitism (Oriental Orthodoxy): Tregeagle (a wicked Cornish lawyer whose ghost was pursued by demons and bound by clergy all over Cornwall), because they have a long history of suffering.

Church of the East: King Arthur, because of the shared motif of lost glory (they used to be one of the largest churches and span from Persia to China; now, it's just 40,000 people).

Anglicanism: Church of England clergy, of course, who are important figures in English folklore (in Cornwall and Devon, there's a big tradition of conjurer-parsons, and on the Welsh Border there's a common motif of a ghost or evil spirit needing twelve parsons to exorcise it).

Lutheranism: John Barleycorn (a personification of barley from the eponymous ballad), because his story has a definite Eucharistic motif (his slain flesh becomes bread and alcohol which nourishes the world) and Lutherans have the strongest Eucharistic doctrines of any Protestants.

Reformed: Janet (the heroine of the ballad "Tam Lin", where she tries to free the eponymous character, her lover, from the clutches of the Fairy Queen), because the Reformation was supposed to free Christianity from superstition.

Methodists: Robin Hood, because he's the great hero of the poor and Methodists have a long and proud tradition of working for social justice.

Congregationalists: Dick Turpin (an 18th century highwayman who was greatly romanticised), because they were historically persecuted by the English government, so they get Britain's other famous outlaw hero.

Baptists: Gwyn ap Nudd, the faerie king in Welsh folklore, because the most famous story about him (St. Collen's dinner with him on Glastonbury Tor) involves him being driven away with holy water, and Baptists typical object to holy water and particularly to its most common use, baptising babies.

Anabaptists (Amish, Mennonites, etc.): Black Shuck (an East Anglian hellhound famous for attacking two churches in 1577), because Anabaptists led a radical attack on the Roman Catholic Church in the 16th century.

Pentecostals: Thomas the Rhymer (a Scottish Border earl who became a poet-prophet after encountering the Fairy Queen), because Pentecostals have a big emphasis on spiritual gifts gained by supernatural encounter.

Non-Denominationals: The Devil (in English folklore, he's a comedy buffoon) because they tend to be seen as a joke by the others.

[apilgrimpassingby]

I'm not going to comment on this politically, because I don't know much about the American healthcare system and it's not my country. However, I'm an amateur folklorist, and today it clicked for me - the Luigi Mangione phenomenon makes a lot more sense if you see his supporters as looking not for a Martin Luther King Jr. but for a Dick Turpin.

Obviously, nothing meaningful is accomplished by shooting a CEO. But then again, hiding in a forest and robbing travellers did nothing to abolish the Forest Laws, but people kept on telling Robin Hood stories. Because people don't tell these stories as a political program, but as a fantasy about revenge against the oppressive system.

Likewise, because these kinds of stories are anti-system revenge fantasies, the outlaw protagonist doesn't have to be a particularly virtuous or effective person - the crucial thing is courageous defiance of despised authority. For example, Ned Kelly became a folk hero despite doing little but robbery and violence, because Australians wanted to tell stories about rebellion and vengeance against the upper class.

Luigi Mangione is not a hero. You celebrate him because you’re ignorant. You’re anti rich people and you hate CEOs so you cheer for the murder of someone you’re programmed to hate. You never heard of Brian Thompson before he was murdered, you just cheer his murder because “CEO” and “UnitedHealthcare.”

But you don’t understand that Mangione did not do anything that will result in a positive change. UnitedHealthcare is still UnitedHealthcare. Nothing about its operations will change. Thompson will be replaced and they will continue to operate as usual.

Brian Thompson didn’t even has much control over the company as you believe and Unitedhealthcare isn’t hurt by his murder.

In your hatred you forget that Brian Thompson was a human being who did not deserve to get gunned down in the streets just because he was the CEO of an insurance company.

Mangione did not make a positive change. The world is not a better place without Brian Thompson. UnitedHealthcare isn’t changing or going anywhere. The people most impacted by this loss are Brian Thompson’s wife and children.

Luigi Mangione is a cold blooded murderer who killed a husband and father and if you revel in this murder just because the victim was a CEO you are actually celebrating evil and you need to reexamine how it is you have to stooped to a level that allows you to celebrate murder because you have issues with the status a person holds in society.

[tanasisme]

Escapades of a Fictional Hero: The Imaginary Adventures of Dick Turpin

[maypoleman1]

7th April

St Brynach’s Day/ Low Sunday

Sources: World History Archive/Alamy Stock Photos/allthatsinteresting.com

Today is St Brynach’s Day and in 2024 it is Low Sunday, the start of Hocktide, which had its origins in marking the beginning of tithes collection, but little of that tradition now remains. Brynach is chiefly remembered for the tall cross erected in his honour at Nevern near Newport in the ninth century, upon which the first cuckoo of spring traditionally alights.

On this day in 1739, Dick Turpin fearlessly flung himself off the scaffold at York, this ending his own life but starting the legend of a brave and noble highwayman. In fact Turpin was a cattle rustler, robber and murderer who terrorised the highways and byways of York, never committing a gallant deed in his life. This did not prevent a carefully curated legend emerging after his execution that Turpin was a suave and sophisticated road agent, who charmed the ladies and aroused the envy of gentlemen and who once gave himself a superb alibi by riding from York to London in one night astride his steed Black Bess at a time no one thought such a feat was possible. None of this true (including his horse), but the legend of Turpin as a folk hero has continued to the present day.

[deadplantboii]

get to know me

tagged by @214lilacsky

last song - мёртв внутри by Electroforez

favorite color - forest green bc im basic and gay

last film/show - just watched poor things and it was amazing!!

sweet/savory/spicy - sweet tooth all the way

relationship status - single pringle

last thing i googled - dick turpin bc joe lycett talked about him on drunk history

current obsession - im listening to the audiobooks of the heroes of olympus series for better or for worse but i cant stop

last book - a room with a view by e. m. forster (or the lost hero by rick riordan if you count audiobooks)

looking forward to - the big birthday party were gonna throw for two of my flatmates

[forthegothicheroine]

There's a chapter in Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (a book which is required reading for everyone) about the glorification of thieves. The argument that it's silly to celebrate people like Dick Turpin or Blackbeard is certainly valid, and if Robin Hood was based on anyone real, it was probably just a poacher who got a good song written about him, as Stagger Lee would after killing a man over a card game. (That said, it's pretty funny to read hand-wringing about The Beggar's Opera in a post-Grand Theft Auto world.)

The interesting part to me is that we as a society (maybe even a species, though I'd need more anthropology studies to say for sure) seem to really want criminal folk heroes. John Dillinger was handsome, polite, and didn't kill anybody? Good enough. DB Cooper was well-dressed, did a weird heist, and may or may not have survived? Good enough. This new guy shot a bad person in a theatrical way? Good enough.

We still don't really know anything about this guy/The Adjuster/The UnitedHealth Shooter/ whatever you want to call him. If they do catch him, I would not be at all surprised if he turned out to be some awful Q-Anon guy, or a hit man- it seems equally likely as someone bereaved. (It could also be multiple things, a hit man hired by a bereaved family member.) But the internet really wants him to be a folk hero.

I'm not just watching as a totally neutral observer. I almost died in the ER several years ago when I couldn't get my asthma medication covered. I think the engraved bullets and the monopoly money (which may or may not have been related) are exciting to read about. I love seeing Ben Shapiro's fanbase turn against him. I just listened to a stunningly beautiful folk song written about the incident.

But all of this reaction is more about what we as a society want to react to than about what actually happened. If we don't get a folk hero, then we manufacture one.

(Also, Blue Cross didn't change their policy because of this, let's be serious.)

Thinking about the Chuck Klosterman essay on real life vigilantes vs fictional superheroes, specifically Bernard Goetz, and how there was briefly public support for him when the story was "He shot guys who tried to mug him" before they learned more and that story could be continued with "And was a horrible racist who took a shotgun onto the subway in the hopes that someone would try to mug him."

It's a very different case, but it makes me think that it's definitely best for the CEO Killer's legend, not just his freedom, that he never get caught so we can never find out anything disillusioning about him.

[rosemariecawkwell]

Review: Queens Of The Underworld, by Caitlin Davies

 Paperback Publication date: April 20th 2023, The History Press Blurb Robin Hood, Dick Turpin, Ronnie Biggs, the Krays … All have become folk heroes, glamorised and romanticised, even when they killed. But where are all the female crooks? Where are the street robbers, gang leaders, diamond thieves, bank robbers and gold smugglers? Queens of the Underworld reveals the incredible story of…

[wewererogue]

Hark! A vagrant

(54)

[fnich-enthusiast]

How do any Americans end up as history majorsif they didn’t fall in love with Matthew Baynton as Dick Turpin in Horrible Histories as children

[gmorkfromthewoods]

Dick Turpin Grave Highway Man in York.

[crystalromana]

The Doomwood Curse is a story that plays with the meta narrative with spores making "normal" people act out a book and Charley literally becoming a plot device. The fact that it has this quote

Charley: ... I think I'm going to imagine that virtue triumps in the end and the hero and heroine marry at last, after all, that's how books should end.

Is driving me up the wall because this is sad 🥺face Charley, 3 days past thinking the (eigtht) Doctor is dead and dealing with Six.

This is her first real time relaxing since The Girl Who Never Was is spending four hours in the bath, projecting eight onto DICK TURPIN and then six doesn't even let her finish the book and she has to imagine the ending. But that is itself a meta narrative on Charley's story and I'm just