#Chapter 1085

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TOO LITTLE CONTENT WITH IM SAMA

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happy pride month aka cp9/cp0 comeback

cp9 + text posts part 8 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 - 5 – 6 - 7

[joysstar]

For once, I'm speechless, Oda outdid himself in this chapter.

Sabo revealed himself as an absolute badass by assaulting the Gorosei in a one shot.

Not everyone has the guts to do it. It seems he mixes Ace's favorite move and adds some new ones.

It's his own way to remind them what they did to his brother and a way to honor his memory as well.

He then attacks Imu without fear. That man is really something else.

Imu is at the top of the world, Sabo has just met him/her, he didn't know about his/her existence.

And yet like Luffy, he doesn't display any kind of fear or hesitation. He just wants to protect Cobra.

Cobra's and Sabo's teamwork is impressive. It's sad they had to meet under such circumstances. They would get along greatly!

Can we also talk about Cobra? That man has the guts to talk about a very secret subject.

Can we talk about his ancestor, Nefertari D. Lili? Can we talk about Vivi? Badassery runs in the family!

He sacrifices himself in order to protect Sabo, he wants to unleash the truth to the world.

And believe me, he will be remembered pretty much like Pedro with Carrott.

Actually it also makes me sad for Vivi, Luffy and their friends. Ace died to protect Luffy, Cobra died to protect Sabo.

Let's make sure Dragon will fight to honor the memory of such a great king!

[nature-nerd-sarah]

So the two living characters outside the World Government who now know the World Government's biggest secret are Sabo, the main character's adopted brother, and Wapol, a goofy villain from early in the story who Oda decided to bring back.

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true history: true mystery, chapter 1085 spoilers

OH MY GAWD,

What a chapter. And cos he's my boy, told you we didn't have to worry too much about one

Trafalgar

D.

Water Law!

I'm so excited (I feel like I should go out and order the whole set of steak knives).

Anyhoo! I remember when I enjoyed reading the scans on my Friday, and they now come out very early my Thursday morning (like, super early. It's just shy of 3am). BUT this was a treat. And the reason I mostly read them is to prevent being spoiled, but also because they include really interesting translator's notes, etc. such as the ones below about Imu:

Which is difficult to see, but basically it says that Imu refers to themself as Mu and then says that Mu can refer to the void century but also to dreams. Super interesting. And so, Lili was not, unfortunately Imu (but that's okay, cos' I love this story line too), BUT she was a...

D!!!

As shown above, where King Cobra realises...

...that he won't survive his encounter with Imu (who was apparently one of the original 20), and Cobra reveals that Lili was Queen Nefertari D. Lili. GOOD STUFF. Sabo overhears. Imu has some problems with this, because, as stated by Cora

and reiterated by (without knowledge to the best of our understanding) Imu

the "D" is the moniker of the Celestials ancient enemy.

And, although sketchy, look at the perspective from that panel above! Imu is miles above them all. Another aside, while looking up Cora and Doflamingo stuff, there's also the 'heavenly' perspective on this frame with Cora and Law, but I also know Oda is fond of this type of editing/story telling:

Back to 1085: Cobra's recollection that Imu was the name of one of the original 20 does tie into the probable theory that Imu had the eternal youth operation centuries prior.

Anyhoo, this is well out of order (my posting of frames) as always! Sorry. It's not only the D's that Imu and their clan need to be scared of, but also

the scholars. Be still my LawBin shipping (platonic or romantic) heart! But, I digress. So Lili is the one responsible for the preservation and also dispersal of

the poneglyphs. Whole page there. So much information! Cobra has not revealed that Lili was a "D" at this point, or that he himself is, so he was playing with fire coming in to see the Elders, but I guess the whole lineage had known about that for a long time then (that they had the initial for some reason) and had survived. It also seems that maybe King Cobra did know more about the poneglyph in Alabasta than previously assumed. Perhaps?

Anyway, Imu above says that Lili's dispersal of the poneglyphs around the world was perhaps a deliberate action (apparently it had been passed off as a mistake, a blunder) as part of a larger plan. And with the reveal of her being a possessor of the Will of D. it seems it probably was, even if she was a catalyst, as so many D's seem to be, without having full awareness or knowledge of what ultimate role they're playing.

Full page again, cos it's so good. So Imu questions Cobra as to why they never divulged Lili's full name, only referring to her by her royal title, which is actually pretty standard practice. BUT, Imu obviously has very strong convictions that Lili is one of those rabble rousers who get this his entity-self really hot under the collar too!

And the Gorosei basically saying: You can't expose that we're some kind of oligarchy/dictatorship/absolute malignant monarchy when it's supposed to be some kind form of supposed League of Nations acting for all countries and supposed world peace. Interesting mix of Imperialism and colonialism these guys have going on. Anyway! The revery is still going on, and is now absolutely proven to be a farce:

Although King Neptune, and who's the other dude? Can't remember. Not Dalton, is it? (please let me know) King Riku Doldo are looking very skeptical at the Uncle Sam dude. (Thank you @robinchan-hananomi !)

Walpol becomes relevant in a way that it seems that Caribou will be too, and Vivi has been kidnapped by the CIA CP0 (or are they CP9)?

Walpol overhears and sees not only Imu's decimation of Cobra with figures that look a lot like Kanjurou's Kazenbo flame spirit from Wano (did the Gorosei shape-shift too, or was it all Imu sending out some kind of malevolent spirit?), but I think he also overhears Cobra's revelation to Sabo that has a nice SFX bubble over it to just tease we readers enough with hints of information about how the Poneglyphs must be protected, and will seemingly will help usher in the dawn! Ooh, so excited.

BTW. What or who is the figure behind Cobra in the bottom right panel? Sabo?

Walpol outs himself as having seen everything, so shocking is it to him:

and so the spectres are on his tail (and I think it's quite funny that first Imu doesn't know or sense Sabo, and other defenses are breached by Walpol, of all people!). SO, he's one of my least favourite villains, along with Caribou and Spandam, but I'm guessing there's something with their devil fruits that make them crucial to the plot, as well as being kind of incidental characters witnessing key points of One Piece lore.

I doubt he has any great love for Vivi, but he also probably knows where his best chance for survival lies, so, it seems he's been creeping around the castle and I'm going to align CPO with Get Smart now, cos they've got that kinda vibe. Not goofy enough to be Scooby Doo (although Jabra does a good job), but still funny and sexy enough to be the characters of Get Smart who weren't Max. (look it up if you don't know).

Anyhoo! Vivi got kidnapped, and I'm guessing it was at the urging of the gorosei who did it at the urging of Imu, or maybe if Cobra didn't spill the beans, they would've used her as a bargaining chip. Anyway, Kalifa here:

stating that Vivi will end up being a pet (?!?). Did Charloss want her? And I'm wondering if Jabra's wording is a mistranslation, although maybe not. As far as I'm aware, the expression is "play your cards closer to your chest", but maybe it's changed over time. Or there's a pun I'm not getting.

Vivi's reaction in the following frame is awesome (gonna put the whole page in again, cos it's got so much info):

First, awesome that Shirahoshi got away, and we saw that way back when with Garp accompanying the family back to Fishmen Island. Cool info dump from Jabra above. (Very chatty secret agents. Maybe that's why they don't get to wear masks). But I especially like Vivi's incredulity at Kalifa's comment, and her commitment to doing something about it. She's got a devil fruit, doesn't she? Yes! BUT

Trashing young prince to the rescue! (okay, he's a king, once disposed, newly reinstated somewhere) (but he is young. This guy's in his 20s, I think). Vivi hitches a ride with the dumpster on wheels. And from there, Big News Morgans picks them up! (not yet witnessed). Here from chapter 1074:

She's really gone up in my estimation. I never noticed how much she speaks her mind and sticks up for others before (I'm slow, don't worry). And it's not just cos she's a D. Haha. That's not an automatic "like" card, but I might be a little predisposed.

Speaking of which, this part with the ASL brothers was hilarious:

"Do want a "D" in your name, Sabo?"

"You can be Sad. Bo!"

"Why'd you put it there!?!"

Ah, lol, bless.

Also, Imu has the same kind of imperiousness as Doflamingo. Doflamingo's rougher in speech, and I'm guessing with the "thou" and so on shown in the scanlation on the first page that Imu is formal, but as entitled and condescending as fuck, just like our pink feathered friend.

One thing (or many) so interesting about Doffy, though, is:

from chapter 727, is that he's a man very sore about losing his Celestial dragon status, who wants to destroy them and the world government, and who is not afraid of the CD's. Also, it seems that he's well aware of Imu (Mary Geoise's greatest treasure?). I wonder how he was going to challenge Imu if Law had granted him eternal life. If that was his aim. So, a digression, but I think our pink bird will again be relevant soon! Fingers crossed, and I really don't want them to redeem him. Please.

Lastly, the cover was very cute:

Franky directing newly hatched turtles to the ocean, and it's true, so many head in the wrong direction, and such a small proportion actually survive, so he's a hero. Is he sitting on a turtle-hatchling eating crab?

Dunno if any of this was coherent, and I'm sure I missed a bunch, but over and out for now (ah, back to bed!).

[basically-an-anime-stan-acct]

Not Oda giving us more ASL content if only for a moment 🥹

Also SAD.BO 😂☠️

[daybreakerreal]

I have NEVER seen One Piece look this good. First time the smaller panels have taken my breath away as opposed to the bigger double page spreads. I especially love Cobra, he looks so real for a one piece character. I could admire these panels forever theres so many good ones. Cobra especially. I am gonna fuck that old man.

[curlybrow-kun]

Oda isn't holding back! Egghead has been banger after banger!!

I fucking love One Piece!

[migila]

Oda, are you telling me that Vivi’s full name was Nefertari D. Vivi all along?

[demonio-fleurs]

me a week ago, half jokingly: haha here’s my ten page essay on why vivi is gonna reunite with the straw hats after egghead island !!

me, after chapter 1085: so anyways here’s my ten page essay on why vivi is definitely reuniting with the straw hats after egghead island

[calekinnieplus]

Many thoughts and names surfaced in his mind, but they were quickly eliminated by him. This included Amon’s brother and the Angel of Fate Ouroboros. From the Red Angel evil spirit’s past actions, for the time being, “He” wouldn’t make contact with Rose Redemption, and Amon’s brother is a sworn enemy of Medici and company.

Suddenly, a name appeared in his mind:

Zaratul!

.........

The Red Angel evil spirit, Sauron Einhom Medici!

This Red Angel played with a ball of scarlet-red flames in “His” hand as the corners of “His” mouth curled up.

You actually sensed it earlier than I expected.

“Heh, using Flaming Jump in front of me…”

JSJDJDJDUUDJDSJDJDJDJD AHHHHHHHH THIS IS JSJSJDJSJ I... oh my god. ZARATUL IS COMING INTO PLAY???

BRUH THIS SHIT IS STRESSFUL HELL NAH

[bobauthorman]

Look at the head sideways

A while back, @opbackgrounds pointed out the odd shape of the weapons used by the Alabasta army (Can't remember which post.)

Now with this latest revelation on the Nefertari line, I can't help but wonder if that was supposed to be some sort of clue...

[the-frizzle-fry]

Hey everybody! I’m here to tell you Imu does not transform in chapter 1085.

There are five shadowy, silhouettes none of which are Imu. There are a sixth big pair of eyes behind the five gorosei, but that could just as well be for dramatic effect from Oda.

[mastomysowner]

Chapter 1085

Yes, that’s the sovereign of the world, whose mere presence fills others with awe and solemn dread. Im is impressive. This is the type of impression Trebol wanted Doflamingo to create when he forced him to be king.

And he also can confirm this impression.

It’s now fully confirmed that Im is connected with the Buddha. Not only is his name, イム, made up of the radicals used in the kanji 仏, Buddha, but also Mu (negative) is an important concept in Buddhism.

Seems like the Five Elders represent the five aggregates of clinging, matter, sensations, perception, formations, and consciousness, the elements making up the physical and mental existence of each person. The symbol of the World Government itself denotes everything that exists in the material world, and has five points.

In Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism, the lords of the Five Buddha Families, Vairochana, Akshobhya, Ratnasambhava, Amitabha, and Amoghasiddhi, are associated, among other things, with the five aggregates of clinging. They are sometimes seen as emanations and representations of the five qualities of the Adi-Buddha or "first Buddha", the highest anima mundi.

[nature-nerd-sarah]

smh, can't believe Imu has perpetually shaded hair and pronouns

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I, mu, mu, mine

I'm wondering about the pronunciation of Imu's name. So far, we've got the katakana, so it does seem that it is the /i/ as in pin /イ/ and the mu like in move (maybe not as elongated) /ム/. Part of me wonders if there is some visual word play going on with the Romanisation of /イ/ to /I/ — which, being a name, get's capitalised, such as in the I pronoun by which English users refer to themselves /aɪ/.

I know it's ii-mu, BUT it would so fit in a Celestial Dragons if it were also I-(the mighty) Mu. (It might also be a play on I, me, me, mine). But that's me being an egotistical English user! Still.

It does seem that the (ム) (Mu) part of Imu's name will be important (so the Wiki might have to do some retro-editing. It currently has Imu listed as Im). Imu refers to themself as Mu (ム), and according to Sandman on Twitter, it comes across as quite childish.

According to the scanlation crew, they say that Mu can stand for 'void' but also for 'dream', but Sandman doesn't mention this. Sandman is Japanese, and just mentions that it's a mythical lost continent with ties to Atlantis.

This is from the scans:

Gonna have to track down the raws and see whether Kanji was used or not. I don't think so, or I think Sandman would've mentioned it.

Sandman's post:

Also wondering if Imu referring to themself by abbreviated name (seemingly) ties into a protocol similar to the use of the 'royal we'. Such as Queen Elizabeth having referred to herself (and I guess the royal entity) in that way.

Anyway! We'll see (we being fandom, not me, but including me. Haha).