#ch 1085

[kaizokuou-ni-naru]

Hello! With the recent revelation in Chapter 1113 by Vegapunk, I was wondering if you think this is what Cobra was saying in the speech bubble that gets blocked in chapter 1085? Something like “sinking world”?

Are there any clues for this in the original Japanese?

oh, good question!! so, here's what this section looks like in japanese. the first phrase appears to be 歴史の本文を守りなさい/ponegurifu wo mamorinasai, "protect the poneglyphs." and then there's the big obscured bit, of course, and then we can see the end of the sentence, 世界に夜明けの旗をかかげ/sekai ni yoake no hata wo kakage ("bear/raise the flag of dawn against the [...] world").

what's missing is indeed some sort of phrase preceding/describing the word 'world'. i know that in the english translation they did this as "...ING WORLD". we can see that it probably ends with the sounds ～りく/~riku, but what it might be beyond that is hard to say. there's a few situations where a word might end with ku in japanese; it could be a verb with a ku dictionary ending (like tsuku, 'to be attached') or it could be an adverb version of an adjective (such as atarashiku, 'newly', or ookiku, 'in a big way').

i can't really think of an obvious way to say 'sinking' that would fit what we have here- at least, neither 沈む/shizumu nor 沈んでいる/shizundeiru fits. but i do think it's definitely plausible for the sinking world to be what cobra is describing here, one way or another.

[joysstar]

For once, I'm speechless, Oda outdid himself in this chapter.

Sabo revealed himself as an absolute badass by assaulting the Gorosei in a one shot.

Not everyone has the guts to do it. It seems he mixes Ace's favorite move and adds some new ones.

It's his own way to remind them what they did to his brother and a way to honor his memory as well.

He then attacks Imu without fear. That man is really something else.

Imu is at the top of the world, Sabo has just met him/her, he didn't know about his/her existence.

And yet like Luffy, he doesn't display any kind of fear or hesitation. He just wants to protect Cobra.

Cobra's and Sabo's teamwork is impressive. It's sad they had to meet under such circumstances. They would get along greatly!

Can we also talk about Cobra? That man has the guts to talk about a very secret subject.

Can we talk about his ancestor, Nefertari D. Lili? Can we talk about Vivi? Badassery runs in the family!

He sacrifices himself in order to protect Sabo, he wants to unleash the truth to the world.

And believe me, he will be remembered pretty much like Pedro with Carrott.

Actually it also makes me sad for Vivi, Luffy and their friends. Ace died to protect Luffy, Cobra died to protect Sabo.

Let's make sure Dragon will fight to honor the memory of such a great king!

[ninhaoma-ya]

Chapter 1085 — The death of Nefertari Cobra

And we are back!

Cover story is adorable, although Oda’s sketchy style renders it almost unreadable. Franky is but a mess of lines, especially around his legs and it's difficult to see if its sweat, snot or tears streaming down and around his face.

Please, Oda, please let someone else do the inking.

Yes, yes, nice reminder that king Cobra is very ill indeed, so although his death is tragic, he's still an old, sick man.

But I like the way the Five Elders have –both metaphorically and physically– moved out of the way, so Cobra can get his answers.

If it's Donquixote, I will throw something. Yes, no idea to introduce new characters/major Celestial families this late in the series, but still. It'd only be a nail in the "family is destiny"-coffin.

a) I really enjoy the perspective on this panel, literally placing Imu at the top of the world

b) The lady doth protest too much, methinks

So either Lili either did something that resulted in the Kozuki clan to make the Ponegplyhs, or she didn't do something that enabled them to release the Poneglyphs onto the world. So she either actively gave them information or was lack in hindering them from obtaining it.

Iiiinteresting. Especially…

Since there's a D involved.

Does this mean that Vivi is actually Nefertari D. Vivi and has had the same "Let's not talk about our secret names"-thing going on as Law?

I really like the layout here (although the art, Oda, the art…): Cobra is shaded, already standing in the shadow of the gate of death, while the Five Elders are reduced to their instrumental purpose as Imu's executioners. Great layouting!

And more great layouting! Imu’s powers are terrifying, aren’t they?

So, Imu's power can't be Darkness, since that's Blackbeards. Shadows is still Moria… Is it Void? A lot of ways to say "hello darkness, my old friend" in this happy-go-lucky pirate manga…

And speaking of…

…no matter in how light colours you dress, you'll always be black-hearted assassins for me <3

I am begging you Oda! Let. Someone. Else. Do. The. Line. Art.

As I've said previously, the background's crisp lines can save a lot, as we see in Vivi (she is kind of blurry and sketchy while the ropes, chair and Pangea castle in the backgrund are fine), but when we zoom in on her face the hasty work becomes painfully obvious.

Jabra's coat shadows get lost in the folds and if I didn't know it to be Blueno, Kumadori and Fukurou, I couldn' tell. And Kalifa, my girl… her elegant lines and disparaging looks from Water Seven / Enies Lobby have been transformed into some sort of befuddled school teacher. No, it doesn't help that you try to put her in her characteristic pose. It's much less efficient when you can't tell what her expression is due to sloppy line work.

a) I always forget how completely massive Wapol is, but here he is put into nice perspective thanks to Jabra and Vivi

b) How are you elite agents if you let your hostage get kidnapped in front of you?

c) The sub-plot of Kinderella accepting the mistress but getting shocked at a life on the run is priceless.

Great information exchange! More lore dump! I am well fed and will rest peacefully.

Interesting tidings, although I am sad for Cobra; he was a good guy.

I give the chapter the will of a D and cunning of a fox.

[the-frizzle-fry]

Hey everybody! I’m here to tell you Imu does not transform in chapter 1085.

There are five shadowy, silhouettes none of which are Imu. There are a sixth big pair of eyes behind the five gorosei, but that could just as well be for dramatic effect from Oda.

[larkreadsop]

I thought Law was going to be the only surprise D. of the series but now we’ve got Vivi, too, though I’m not upset about that since more Vivi content is always appreciated and aside from Rouge (and now I guess Vivi’s ancestor) we haven’t gotten any women officially having it so if anyone gets that designation, I’m glad it’s her.

Though if Vivi thinks that Sabo did indeed have something to do with her father’s death, she probably wouldn’t be willing to talk to him unless Luffy was there as well so I feel like all of them are heading for a reunion sooner rather than later here…

[wifeofkatakuri]

Where is Karoo? Is he safe? Is he alright!?

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[joy-girl]

Catch me crying in the corner because of this little flashback 😭

[shihotenko]

Spoiler One Piece 1085

I am SHAKING!

Lili was a spy INSIDE the govt and she somehow caused the poneglyphs to be scattered as messages to the future. 5 elders are *gesturing vaguely* nightmare fuels?? bc wtf even is that?! Imu is fk ancient like mf literally recalled what Lili was like and doing like it was last week instead of 800 fk years ago?! and wait did Sabo not hear what they're talking about??

When Cobra recited Lili's letter and dropped the Nefertari D Lili... I feel chills down my spine and for a fraction of second I was so scared for my life as if Imu could get me anytime just by knowing that information and I had to look around to make sure that I'm fk safe wtf! (ODA I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS LEVEL OF TERROR! Jk tho! LEMME IN ON IT!)

Recalling this panel from ch 218 makes me wonder would any of this still happen if Cobra and Robin didn't have that conversation?

And now I'm really so fk scared for Robin's life, like I've never actually fully understood the weight of her knowledge and what she's capable of doing to the whole world until now! The way I see it (at least for now) Robin is the number 1 enemy to the govt. Yes there's still Rayleigh and Crocus and who knows who else that know about the truth but they've been dormant for decades and no real reason for them to start blabbering about it now. Yes Luffy as Joy Boy is a real fk threat to the WGO but without Robin we'd never actually find out the whole truth (again it's just for now since Pudding might awaken her 3rd eye anytime soon). The WGO seeing Robin as a world wide criminal and threat has never felt so fk real and made sense. Also the poneglyphs surely contain informations that are undisclosed to even the WGO right? Like about idk their ancient enemy the D clan and any plan to defeat the WGO in the future if they have any?? My GOD! No wonder they branded her an international criminal at the age of fk 8 years old! ROBIN PLEASE BE SAFE! LUFFY PLEASE PROTECT HER AAAAAAA

[kaizokuou-ni-naru]

really funny sequence of discord messages took place while i was reading chapter 1085

[writesailingdreams]

One Piece ch. 1085 spoilers

literally all I can think of right now: new lady Ds have dropped

[sashi-ya]

LOOOOORD THE SPOILERS OF CH. 1085!!!

[yorkin-it]

oh ch 1085 what would i do without you

[larkreadsop]

I’m sure Wapol wasn’t Vivi’s first choice when it came to escape options but she’ll take what she can get and she’s able to react very quickly when this happens (and she’s totally fine with being on the run, too)! 

Though this did get me thinking about how Chaka and Pell are reacting to all of this because Cobra’s dead and Vivi’s gone and vanished so uhh…they’re not doing too well at being royal guards at the moment…

[incorrectbbcsherlockquotes]

Sherlock: *is sitting on his chair, thinking*

John: …hey, sherlock?

Sherlock: what?

John: there’s a supermoon going on tonight and rosie wants to see it with you. you free tonight?

Sherlock: mhm…

John:

Sherlock:

John:

Sherlock:

John: you’re trying to figure out what a supermoon is, aren’t you?

Sherlock, in his mind palace: WHAT THE FUCK IS A SUPERMOON DOES SUPERMAN TURN TO A MOON OR WHAT-

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