#CELIA KNOWING SHIT
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Magnus Protocol 7: Give and Take thoughts
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Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk :D
#BUT FR SO MUCH SHIT HAPPENED WTFF#HILLTOP YOU SAYY???#CELIA KNOWING SHIT#JON???#THE WHOLE THING WITH COLIN#GWEN TRYING TO BLACKMAIL LENA AND LENA GIVING HER A PROMOTION#GWEN GIRLY YOU JUST FUCKED YOURSELVES SO MUCH RIP#So yeah fun episode :D#the magnus protocol#the magnus protocol spoilers#tmagp#lyx screaming about tmagp
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yes i totally agree that one of the protocol crew is definitely not coming back from the hilltop centre -but what if it’s not a matter of life and death?
what if someone goes through a door
#bonus points if it’s NOT Celia#hmm isn’t it funny how Sam has now met Helen and basira and Trevor#possibly even Georgina barker#wouldn’t those be convenient names to know somewhere else#tmagp#the Magnus protocol#spoilers#tma#samama khalid#Celia ripley#tmagp theory#goddd tho and Sam wakes up in the archives verse and FINALLY gets to know Celia’s backstory#maybe even hears the voices of ‘Chester’ and ‘Norris’#and he can do NOTHING about it????#shit if this doesn’t become canon I’ve gotta write that
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the drowned woman's poem seemed like a recounting of her time spent in a vast & buried collab oceanic hellscape ??!?!?!?!?!??!?! the drowned woman & alice's encounter being recorded via a fucking tape recorder?!?!?!?!
and, lady m? excuse me? another giant beautiful woman in MY magnus protocol? they really made this show for the Women Lovers
and, finally, lady m finding celia different. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. if she isnt careful, someone is going to Figure her Out and she'll have plenty of explaining to do
#celia ripley#tmagp#tmagp 15#tmagp spoilers#not art#talking lots and saying nothing#lady mowbray#oh. i am so going to fucking draw her btw#holy shit#giant beautiful woman with a giant gun? two giant dogs?#jonny and alex know what the people WANT#alice dyer#the magnus protocol#i usually have much more organized thoughts but this episode Threw Me#really really enjoyed the statement too#i think protocol's had nothing but BANGERS so far#i meant buried not lonely oopsies#talking lots and saying little
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My feeling right now about the cast
#in some capacity#they all know something fucked up#but sam knows in the most clueless way#breaking it down. sam has seen shit he about the magnus institute he wants to understand because it haunts him#alice knows much more than she lets on. shes seen something within the government's office that fucked her up.#maybe one of her previous coworkers who got fucked up? maybe shes an insider for the group who has the man in black? hmmmm#lena is boss lady probably starkwall related. working beyond her work description. regarding cover ups?#gwen saw stuff her family was privvy to one way or another and wants that power#colin knows about the recordings. saw somw lines if code in the system that fucked him up. ate some keyboards at work idk#and celia? oh boy celia definitely works for aomething pn the putside and infiltrated the govt to gwt some inside stuff.#shes seen and knows it all... whether from tapes or its her she knows about the multiverse#tmagp#the magnus protocol#tmagp spoilers
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Litteraly everyone in this podcast knows WAY more than they're letting on and it's driving me insane
#i mean this in a good way#its a good thing#BUT ALICE WHAT DO YOU KNOW???#WHAT DOES THE TAPE RECORDER MEAN TO YOU?#HELLO???#She was definitely at the institute program longer then Sam was#i think its why she doesnt want him to look into the truth#why was Celia seemingly so chill around lady Mowbray?#she just seemed angry i would be screaming and crying#maybe she lost her fear after her encounters with the fears like Georgie?#and GWEN#does she know lady mowbray?#this why i dont like gwen#you guys think shes a wet cat and want her to be okay?#i want to grab her by the collar and scream WHAT DO YOU KNOW YOU PRIVILEGED SHIT???#Alice is the only pathetic little mew mew i need in my life#Sam is maybe the only character who doesnt know more than hes letting on#I mean he trauma dumped his entire tragic backstory on the FIRST DATE#i dont think hes capable of retaining information without immediately blabbing it to everybody#so ummmm... this post got away from me..#look i got shit to say about this ep#the magnus protocol#tmagp#tmagp 15#samama khalid#alice dyer#celia ripley#gwen bouchard#tmagp 15 spoilers
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let’s talk about celia ripely.
celia ripley who has the same name and va as a celia from tma.
celia ripley who is the first person in this universe to mention something about the fears.
celia ripley who seems to know jon's voice after 'chester' reads a case file.
celia ripely what the fuck are you doing.
#HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT#CELIA ARE YOU FRIEND OR FOE I NEED TO KNOW THIS#the magnus protocol#tmagp#tmagp 7#celia ripley#tmagp spoilers
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“What does Celia MEAN the archivist isn’t acting as expected, WHAT DOES SHE MEAN?????!!”
What tf do you mean????? you cannot possibly be denying she’s TMAs Celia still???? She’s expecting it to be a fully functioning person, not a mindless zombie monster that’s killing random ass people with no rhyme or reason. She knows Jon. She’s expecting Jon. She’s confused because it’s not acting like Jon. What’s the issue here??
#seriously#someone enlighten me#this is like that post about the polteageist pokemon MAYBE PERHAPS being a tea poltergeist#like no shit#what more do you need#she teleports#she had a crazy first year here#she recognizes Jon’s voice#she’s pulling TMA character names out her fuckin ass#she knows what an archivist is#she knows about the magnus institute#she has a complicated immigration status#she can’t take Jack back with her#WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO ANSWER YOUR OWN QUESTIONS#tmagp#the magnus protocol#tmagp spoilers#helpimstuckrambling#celia ripley
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making a list of my favorite quote/ones that stuck with me from each season 1 episode because i feel like it
(i'm starting this after episode 4 but it will be a WHILE before i post it)
episode 1: "bones are a lie peddled by Big Milk" - alice
i love this one because it's a great introduction to alice i think. also it radiates spiral so i hope we get avatar alice not dead alice (isnt there a podcast called alice isnt dead?)
episode 2: "If I wanted to clear the canvas, I would have used turpentine." - statement
this one was just fucking powerful and caught me so off guard like 😶
episode 3: "What would I do without her?" - statement
the norris statement <3 it feels like martin asking what he would do without jon which makes mag200 a lot sadder and i love them
episode 4: "Perhaps you shall prove a stronger will than I, and will yet find it within yourself to destroy this hungry thing of wood and cat-gut." - statement
augustus sighting #1 and we immediately get jonah magnus expressing that it may be possible for gwen bouchard unknown family member to overcome the eye's hunger spooky violin
episode 5: "Voyeur needs to be seen to be believed." - statement
i feel like this one is pretty reflective of how the seasons gonna go? like if you explain the events of tma (mag200 specifically) no one's gonna believe you, it must be seen to be believed!! and also seen!! like the eye!!!
episode 6: "Not sca- This isn’t some poxy blood test, some little pinprick, this is hundreds, thousands of razor sharp points pushing into your flesh." - needles
i love needles so much and i thought this was really funny because it was like "you dont find me scary!! what the fuck!!!" just kind of toddler michael energy
episode 7: "It’s not like we’re wrestling with tape recorders and manila folders." - celia
STOP IT. celia you can't say that you just cannot!!!!!! you Know™ too much maam i cant with you
episode 8: "Pleasure to meet you both. I’m Gerry!"
RAGHHHHH OH MY GOD GERRY!!!! i love him so much and idk how to handle him being alive in the tmagp universe!! gertrude too but idk we got so much of her in tma and not nearly enough of gerry
episode 9: "And honestly, it’s kind of compelling by this point." - sam
they got him 😔😔 the horrors got sam 😔😔 also i found this to be an interesting contrast to jon's heavy resistance in season 1 like he was being compelled but he wasn't going to let anyone know that vs sam "its kinda compelling to trauma dump on this paperwork :]" how is he somehow even more victim material
episode 10: "Gosh you’re sexy, here’s a twenty for your trouble.” - alice
does this count as a quote if shes also quoting what she thinks sam should say? idk anyway i love her i would say that to her if given the chance and it was very silly. i will not be addressing bonzo i am scared.
episode 11: "...Thank you, Alice" - gwen
dyhard dyhard dyhard dyhard dyhard. okay also, the way she CRUMBLED at the idea of anyone doing anything nice for her please someone give her a hug and let it be ME. this series is tossing me back and forth between sam & alice (what is their ship name) and dyhard but this put me back to dyhard
episode 12: "You know it's rude to have absolutely no game?" - alice
she's so fucking funny i need her to be okay so badly!!!! i don't think even tim made me laugh as much as she makes me chuckle and this one really got me. it's hard to write such a comedic character in a podcast since you only have the voice but they really nailed it i adore her
episode 13: "Is it my fault?" - gwen
each of these episodes just reveal a little bit more about how loving and soft gwen is and idk i love her so unbelievably much so seeing that she felt guilt about the bonzo stuff just made her so much more real :(
episode 14: "Christ, they’re in the walls…" - statement
theyre in the walls!!! theyre in the goddamn walls!!!!! anyway that got me because i realized the hole before the statement said it. made more sad than scared tbh
episode 15: "Babies are cool!" - alice this entire interaction between her and sam & celia was so awkward, she is so obvious and i love her anyway
episode 16: "It’s not like I was holding doors open for Mr Bonzo or anything." - gwen my wife is so so so stupid but i adore her AND this gives room for character development. i wish she did not do that though. i love when characters are flawed and have depth but i struggled to get past THIS flaw of hers
episode 17: "Thanks, I guess. Not exactly the same, though, is it?" - celia shes talking TO JON IN THE COMPUTER. SHE KNOWS. i lost my damn mind i love her i love her. get the gay people out of the puter please queen
episode 18: "Why would I need to talk to you? Your work is satisfactory. Unless you have a work-related issue I could assist you with?" - lena solidified my opinion that lena is the best boss to ever have, i adore her and i would want to work for her if she wasn't the boss of Creepy Establishment #1
episode 19: "You’re going to throw it in the fishtank, aren’t you?" - alice colin's behavior is like really worrying BUT i'm glad he's back. i was not convinced he was still alive
episode 20: "I suppose it’s too late for remorse, isn’t it? And why should I be sorry? This is what I deserve!" - ink5oul/statement they reminded me of jon a lot, like especially his season 3/4 transformation when he doesn't quite know everything but he knows he isn't who he was in season 1 anymore, i hope we see more of their life and they can be helped :(
episode 21: [Tape Recorder Bites Ink5oul] - audio description i know it's not technically a quote but this is just so fucking funny. why does it have teeth. what does this mean for the lore. holy shit.
episode 22: "Jonathan Sims and Martin Blackwood" - celia. knawing at the walls of my enclosure i am so not okay. i'm not okay. wtf. wtf. wtf. they're real. wtf.
episode 23: "I had a favorite mug. It said “love you, bitch” and had a picture of a drunk dog on it." - alice. okay i just love this entire interaction because gwen got to open up a little bit and my dyhard heart is so full
episode 24: "I am told that children like me, and I’ve always held the opinion that the world would be a better place if everyone just thought more." - basira. once again this whole interaction was so fun but like idk i loved hearing basira somewhat happy and in a safe place :] my wife <3
episode 25: " I am trying to help, to save us from this goddamned fucking nightmare machine!" - colin. MAN I REALLY WAS ROOTING FOR YOU!!! I WAS SO CONFIDENT YOU WEREN'T GONNA DIE!!!! it's over
episode 26: "I was worrying for a moment that you were Magnussing." - alice. MAGNUSSING BEING CANON MADE ME SAY IT EVEN MORE I'VE SAID IT LIKE TWICE ALREADY
episode 27: "You didn’t tell me the room was labelled, “Archivist.”" - celia. oooooh somebody's got TRAUMAAAAA LMAO
episode 28: "So you’re telling me you know nothing about an OIAR external contract being found with the bodies of two tattooed thugs who met rather grisly ends?" - TREVOR HERBERT???? anyway. ink5oul mention!!!!! i hope they stop killing people it's really rude
episode 29: "Alice, er… we’ve got to talk. It’s important." - teddy. i knew it was over for him but i didn't think it was gonna be THIS bad??? bye babe i guess??? 😭
episode 30: how do i even pick. the whole fucking episode. i can't. i am in a state of shock. i need to lay down for 30 years.
#honorable mentions:#“canaries should stay above ground” because holy shit (1)#“i don’t scare so easy these days” because oh my god its our celia (7)#“i like them”/“of course you do” because weeping weeping weeping (8)#“oh no not again! oh the horrors! nooooo” that one was just really funny and not exactly part of the episode (9)#“can he read?” (10) bc it enforces the gwen/jon parallels (“you dont sound?? russian??”)#“the deep will care for his bones” (11) it creeped me out and i loved it#“the cover had this awful comic sans title 'mr. bonzo's on his way'” (12) comic sans font was so funny it almost made it not horrific#“I have a baby. Jack. He’s just over a year old now.” (13) like BARNABAS. i know him.#“The only drama is the dilemma of how I could possibly get by without you all to myself!” (14) alice.... alice....#“Oh no! Who keeps taking Georgie’s face?!” (18) SHE'S BACKKKKKKK#''I swear if I hear one more word about Trevor-bloody-Herbert MP I am going to blow up Parliament.'' (27) because WHAT LMAO??? WHATTT#''when I first awoke I knew nothing nothing but the dream of things that sliced my who from me with claws like scalpels'' (30) i cried#''They’re gone Alice. They’re gone.'' (30) tweaking#''What happens now? You push me? Stab me? Or do I need to jump in myself? Come on what’s stopping you?'' (30)#can i just put the whole episode in honorable mentions too atp.#''We are the hilltop. It is me and I am it and we are. We are…'' (30)#''Yeah sure. Sorry to bother you. Goodbye Alice.'' (30)#okay i'm done#i can't i .. i ..#the magnus protocol#tmagp#magnus protocol#tmagp spoilers#tmagp season 1#the magnus pod
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AH.
#tmagp#tmagp spoilers#the magnus protocol#the magnus protocol spoilers#like man i know we all already knew celia was t.mas celia but like holy SHIT
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Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck the goddamn music-
I don't know the name for the technique but there's this thing that was in there that's the string players, like, tapping the instrument with the bow to create a more percussive sound and normally I wouldn't think too much of it but I swear to god it sounded like creeping spider legs. During the case set at Hill Top Road. With the very obvious references to the Buried and the Stranger and all the rest. Which dropped about a hundred Achives references including Jon's fucking name???
I have always respected the soundscaping they do at Rusty Quill but they're really going above and beyond for this show.
#i dont know if ill have any more coherent thoughts for this episode thb#my mind is just circling on 'celia knows celia KNOW tapes and manila folders??? doing her own research??? anything SPECIAL about#the ones that get read aloud?????#celia tma didnt know that much how does celia tmagp know did she talk to georgie and melanie after it all does she have news about them-#jon jon jon jon jon#lena worked for starkwell didnt she#jon-#did colin just fucking punch sam?????#j-#oh gwen you are in way over your head#dark coat does this worlds gerry work for starkwell too#celia KNOWS#JON#i hope people dont get too annoying about 'its really him' yall know it could just be an ai#SAM TALK TO CELIA ABOUT THE EMAIL FROM JON#i can send email - no shit really??'#...yeah. my brain's a mess right now#this is what i get for listening at 1am#the magnus protocol#7 give and take#tmagp spoilers#tmagp audio#my magnus protocol stuff#original post#queue cause i'll be at work when the episode airs
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i say this with all due respect, and so much love, cuz i do actually like him, but on what planet is martin an important name at the magnus institute? like, jonah created the place and stuck around for the entire time as its head over and over, jonathan is the lynchpin of the ritual/the archivist/the literal archive itself, martin is just A Guy!
#personal#the magnus protocol#tmagp#tmagp spoilers#like i'm not martin bashing i like him well enough#but he's just a dude!!!#like in terms of important names as it relates to the magnus institute martin is not on that list#peter fucking lukas is more important in terms of the institute since he gives it money#like martin is important to jon but that's really It#like honestly would he even be an avatar if peter hadn't tried getting his hooks in him? probably not#like i get it's martin and jon influencing shit through the computers and that celia is from the tma world#where she knows about them because of the eye-pocalypse#but no martin is not important when it comes to the fabric of the institute#this is something i've noted before but i think they've forgotten that martin was not actually a protagonist#like the protagonist was jon#there are significant number of very important events where martin could be fully removed and it would impact nothing#like he's a main character and he's important for character stuff and relationship dynamics#but he's not important to the institute i'm sorry
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IM FEELING UNWELL ABOUT MAPLESTAR. imagine you are the VERY FIRST cat to be born into this clan (Maple is the oldest of his siblings). and there is a cat in charge of the clan and your Dad is second in command, but the cat in charge doesn't last very long and soon your Dad is the leader. and he looks after the clan even at the expense of his lives (he DIES saving you from the mouth of a dog) and he works tirelessly and gives everything he has and all the while it looks completely effortless. and the clan keeps growing and changing and before long it isn't a clan anymore. it's a FAMILY. cats who would bleed for each other without asking why. who would take food off their own (metaphorical) plates and give it to each other. who dedicate their lives to serving the ones who stand at their side. and this family is POWERFUL. of all the others in the area, it is the largest, and it is the oldest, and the history is the richest, and your father remembers the day it began.
and then your father dies. and you are the one chosen to replace him.
how can you hope to measure up to that? how can you look at the space he used to fill and even conjure up the image of you filling it yourself? how can you wake up knowing that these cats, this family, who once leaned all of their weight on your father, are now prepared to lean it on you?
how can you wake up knowing that it wasn't effortless after all? that every life he lost hurt like it was the only one he had? that he needed as much sleep and food and rest and love as every other cat?
it must tear you up inside
#and on top of all that poor maple has to deal with the fucking GRIEF of losing the only parent he ever really knew#i mean celia is still alive. but i dont think any of golden's kits ever considered him a dad#more just. 'yeah this is my dad and this is my dads husband'#poor maple. man.#i can just picture him the first morning after golden dies and he recieves his lives#waking up in his fathers nest. smelling him everywhere and knowing hes gone#knowing its up to him now. shit dude
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i don’t think that jmart are trapped in the puter. i think it’s just their voices - but not just jonny’s and alex’s voices, but jon’s and martin’s
remember how in mag 65 tessa winters talks about how casette tapes being analogical is a common misconseption and how in actuality they are digital, just an old version of digital? i think that somehow, the tapes we know and love tangeled together with the puters (old digital merging with old digital, making it impossible to update (also, im pretty sure that tapes are the direct predecessor to floppy discs, they’re also both a kind of magnetic storage (it was never about analog vs digital but about magnets after all lmao))) and that’s how norris and chester sound like jmart - their voices are the most common on the tapes after all. i think that tma’s ending will remain sort of open, and that norris and chester are not martin and jon, but merely an echo, a small part of them.
#enjoy my thoughts from january#still stand by this mut so much more has happened lmao#now we do know that there might be more going on with celia being there and jon sending emails and whatnot#tmagp#the magnus protocol#*but not mut#i’ve connected the dots#you didn’t connect shit#i’ve connected them#cringing around
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GERRY MY BOY HES ALIVE?!?! AND HAPPY?!?! HE CALLED GERTRUDE GEE GEE?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK!?BSJKDKJZJEJGEJGHPAYOGKKDJG
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Genuinely becoming season 2 Jon Jarchavist because of the new Protocol episode..
I'm not okay nor over about Gerry and Gertrude
#Also when Celia mentions Georgie the audio kinda glitches#i dont know the significance of that but holy shit WTG in protocol verse???#the magnus protocol
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I've seen people comparing the end of this episode to gravity falls, and I have to say I'm absolutely delighted imagining a scene like the one in gravity falls of Sam coming back out of the portal, 30 years older through timey-wimey shannanigans, but also absolutely jacked from his inter-dimensional travels. And just. Immediately decking one of his ex-coworkers in the face and tackling them to the ground. Just Completely disarming them.
#the magnus protocol#just imagine the realization of alice of#“oh shit the guy ive made fun of for years for being scrawny and weak could now easily take me in a fight now”#theres also the angst potential of celia and alice realizing hes come back different#the light in his eyes is gone now#anyway i might to make an au#i dont know how the gravity falls and magnus crossover happened but as a fan of both im happy it did#tmagp spoilers#tmagp 30 spoilers#tmagp 30#samama khalid#alice dyer#celia ripley
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