#But gay characters are apparently able to have a relationship without it
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theallyandhisbeast · 6 months ago
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About bucktommy and 911 in general
You know, in the end, this just feels extremely cheap and cruel.
Showing bucktommy be incandescently happy in all the episodes but 8.6? Even in this ep you can feel how much they care and genuinely love each other. Audience was largely optimistic and excited about them, in a way we have never seen for other buck's LI.
Only to what? Throw it all away because you can't be bothered to write a satisfactory arc for them? Because Buck is the epitome of the guy who dates a lot but always gets broken up with? That to be able to decide if you want to be in a committed relationship if you are bi you have to explore first or else your decision is null and void?
What a way to waste potential and your characters arc.
The special thing about Tommy was that he was beloved by not only bucktommy fans, but GA, and most importantly he was a sort of representation we don't see all that much in media. People loved him because they saw themselves in him, they could connect to his journey and they were genuinely rooting for him to find love and family with Buck. To waste it all away, and to do so by basically throw at us all that we loved about them is unnecessarily cruel.
What hurts the most is that even buck and tommy themselves didn't want to break up. but instead they "must" because bowing down to harmful stereotypes about bi people who are "confused and so they must experiment before settling" is more important than telling a compelling story.
Even without bt break up, I feel like this season took a sharp dive for the worst about well thought storylines in a way that baffles him. Gerrard was reduced to a joke, as was Ortiz, both pgs that could have been used to create compelling arcs that intertwined the 118 even more but instead we got this cheap throwaway joke of a Gerrard, Ortiz was basically throw out of office in a single ep. Hotshot sl could have been fun but instead it's just.... there. And coming back too just for funsies, cause apparently that sl was more important to develop instead of a interesting queer relationship.
Athena once again doing copaganda. Bobby coming back to the 118 without any particular struggle or even guilt about dropping the bag. Things said in interviews that we expect to happen and never even made it to the screen (Eddie's loneliness? Chim and Hen having conflict over Mara? Buck feeling guilty about injuring Gerrard?).
The way Maddie cannot have any sl that is not either tied to a man or about motherhood. Madney having another surprise baby instead of them choosing on purpose to expand their family. Hen & Karen gaining trauma after trauma about their children and not having any other sl that is not tied to that. Josh just existing in the periphery and only becoming important as the "insightful token gay" but not having any type of meaningful screen time since Carson.
The other side characters like Sue, Ravi, Linda, Carla completely disappearing without anyone mentioning them. Ravi has not been given any important sl ever since he talked about having cancer and ever since reduced as a comic relief without anything to add to his character but he's a "landlord".
Chris is out of the picture for who knows how long, and is basically kept around to be traumatized over and over again. Eddie hasn't gotten any character development until first s5 and seemingly now, but i'd argue that the whole thing just felt rushed because what do you mean it takes one chat with a priest for him to do a 180° while he still isn't talking to Chris? And Eddie was the one who got the best treatment of all of them this season.
It's the way this show is slowly chipping itself away. It's the way they start a queer story line promising it would be impactful and handled with care and then half-assing it a best. It's the way the other queer characters are never explored and able to breath and revel in their queerness in the first place. Because, really, when was the last time Hen and Karen kissed on screen? When was the last time they went on a date? When was the last time their arcs were not about children or getting hurt, but just about them as individuals? And on this thread what about Maddie? Or Josh? Or Chim? Or Eddie?
Everything feels reused again and again and again without no real development than then starting the circle all over in half a season.
What a waste.
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luunamoona · 8 months ago
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the way community handled queerness is honestly so peak. like, there're 3 main moments i can think of in the show where queerness was apparent and mentioned: advanced gay, queer studies and advanced waxing and britta's pitch in emotional concequences of broadcast television.
in advanced gay, the cornelius hawthorne is seen as a villian for having traits like being abusive towards his son, pierce, him being really racist and him being homophobic. this acknowledgement of homophobia being a bad thing is definitely good for the early 2010s, as many shows treated being queer as a joke back then. also cornelius being fucking murdered at the end of the episode solidifies the fact his actions were deemed immoral and he therefore had his comeuppance.
community only ever uses queerness as a punchline in the context of troy and abed's relationship, the punchline usually being "look at how romantic these 2 friends are how silly", which could be seen as homophobia as the same context with a man and a woman would be treated differently by the showrunners as it'd be turned into a romantic subplot.
the next example i have is from queer studies and advanced waxing. having the dean tell richie and carl that he "isn't openly anything and gay doesn't begin to cover it" is much more progressive than many other media at that time, and even now, as they'd usually have the queer character just be gay for convenience. this need for convenience is commented on in the episode with richie and carl basically coercing the dean into adopting a label that is inaccurate but convenient for his straight peers. back to my previous point, presenting queerness as being more complex and having more nuance than just gay and straight is something that is very useful to queer viewers as it presents an option beyond these 2 ends of the spectrum. unlike what other shows may do with this concept, community treats it seriously, showing the dean's inner conflict with presenting with an identity that isn't his, with lines like "i feel sick". (also side point, the line "i make gayness look like mormonism" goes so hard)
finally, there's britta's pitch in emotional concequences of broadcast television. in this, the dean protests britta's decision to make him transgender and not "all this other stuff". something i love about that scene is the ability to critique queer represention without insulting it. as a trans person, i've seen a good amount of transphobia is television. this isn't one of these times. being able to have trans identity be a part of the punchline without it being insulted is something that is apparently very hard for screenwriters of sitcoms to do, so i commend them for being able to do that. as well as this, this scene acts as a criticism of how basic queer representation in media is, how they like having one distinct, easy to understand label to give their token character, ignoring "all this other stuff". it's telling us that, like in queer studies and advanced waxing, queer idenity isn't black and white, it's a wide spectrum of identities that comes in many, many different colors.
all in all, community's representation of queerness and how it treats insults to queerness is something a lot of other shows should try to strive for. in my opinion, it has some of the most nuanced takes of queer identity and representation out of any sitcom that doesn't have queer people as a target audience. it feels very fitting, since the show is literally called community and it about a group of misfits who bond over their shared messed up-ness. this show is all about finding your people and accepting everyone, as pierce says in for a few paintballs more, "flaws and all". i think the showrunners had an impression this show would speak to a lot of queer people and i love that they were able to make us feel welcome just as greendale does to the study group.
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musiccgor3 · 6 months ago
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Gonna ramble about a movie I watched because it ended up far more interesting than I thought, and reminded me of a few things. It has some spoilers tho so (long ass post....)
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It's kinda like Dead Poets Society, but if it was set in ww2 nazi boarding school for history buffs
Я убейся бля. It reminded me so much of dps. The scenes, the characters, legit everything with just a few changes here and there. I honestly just viewed Friedrich and Albrecht as best friends, but some people apparently see them as romantic interests, and honestly, I can't even argue with that. A few scenes felt like it. Still, no matter what your views on them are, it's still pretty devastating.
It also kinda hit close to home, which may be a weird thing to say for a film with nazis ☠️, BUT I meant specifically how the school and teachers acted and Friedrich's roommates. Obviously, it's not as comparable. Napolas were literally teaching teens to kill, but it reminded me just a tiny bit, k??? The strict ass teachers, and don't even get me started on the humiliating punishment. That one scene with the instructor and shit reminded me of my own teacher. Whenever we failed a test or quiz, he'd make us chew the paper and spit it out. We'd also get hit sometimes in front of everyone, among other things.
Another thing it reminded me was my friend. I think one of the main reasons I mainly viewed them as friends was because I might have been projecting from how much Albrecht reminded me of a friend lmfao. This shit is very personal but well whatever. It was mostly their personalities. He was also reserved, kinda soft spoken and quiet, like Albrecht. He had some family issues, mainly with his dad, and because of his personality, he wasn't severely bullied or anything, more like outcasted and ignored by the others. I was the only one he actually talked to casually without purpose, so I suppose being his only friend, I kinda influenced him too and vice versa (since it was also a pretty shitty time in my life where I was a bit stupid lol). He really stood with what he thought. Friedrich and Albrecht were like mirrors to me, almost. But unfortunately, too much alike. Due to some stuff happening, I also ended up losing him to suicide. I wasn't even able to attend his funeral, so the scene where Friedrich requested an obituary and they refused to give Albrecht a funeral in the school???? Ouch. And I also already felt a bit guilty with what happened, so when that fuck said the parents blamed Friedrich to be partially responsible for Albrecht's death, uhh, double ouch. It got me thinking a bit.
I'd be lying if I said I don't miss him bad, but shit, enough of that. I rambled about it wayy too much.
Yeah, this movie is great as hell. Not only is it a good film, but it'll probably hold an important place in my brain. I'm gonna think about this for the next week thx. Super cool movie. There should be more films where they allow guys to have more emotional relationships than just "oh, I'm super masculine. I don't care about others." Yeah, most of us are raised to be more emotionally reserved and probably cant be affectionate for shit with friends or let alone anyone, but don't lie when you say you haven't atleast had one friendship where you let go for once damn. "Bromance" or not, some ppl need to learn how to care. You can be masculine and still care for your friends deeply, ya know.
This movie might have some intentional or unintentional homoeroticism in it, but эххххх whatever.... Gay or not, we can all agree it's depressing in both ways someone can view it
(Just realized I probably liked this film due to more personal reasons than a cinematic view LMAO)
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justchillandshipit · 1 month ago
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Parents in the 911 Universe
The 'unfamiliar' situation Chris sees Eddie in is: Eddie trying to do home repairs without Buck. lol Kidding. I have no idea what is going to play out.
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I love Ryan Guzman and I'm hoping to see his POV on bold display over these next few episodes, but I'm not looking forward to seeing Helena treating Eddie like crap only to be forgiven by the next episode without even apologizing. I'm low-key dreading the episode and thinking about skipping it until I see what fandom says about it.
I adore a lot of Tim Minear's work. I really do, but the way he handles these parenting relationships is so out of touch. Some people are so toxic toward their children that they should be in jail. The way every single parent gets a free pass and forgiveness within one or two episodes is unreal. (The only exception being Eddie apparently, and quite frankly, he shouldn't be lumped in with the bad parents in the first place. I'll get to that later.)
Let's look at Chim. Lord, Chim's father didn't even apologize. His second wife tried to explain his actions and excuse his behavior, while Chim's brother tried to guilt-trip Chim into thinking he is a bad parent for not letting his daughter get to know the man who ignored him for "how many years?" I haven't liked Albert since that episode. It totally ruined his character for me.
Both sets of my grandparents died before I was born. It didn't ruin me not to know them. It would have been a nice bonus if they were good to my parents growing up, but if they misused or abused my parents in any way, I wouldn't want them to babysit me, nor would I want to witness them degrade and humiliate my parents.
Don't even get me started on the mental abuse that Buck went through. I hate it for you Mr. Minear. Neglect is abuse, and grief over one child does not excuse what you do to the living children. I'll never get over them giving Maddie that baby box in front of Buck, knowing they never even attempted to make one for him. (The crazy part is that there was so much potential Buck backstory that could be tied to this neglect. Starting with Buck being unable to realize that his attraction to men was not something a heterosexual man would feel. He would also stand a better chance of realizing that the way he is feeling toward Eddie is not only friendship.)
For a moment, I thought Eddie's Dad might be okay, but he used the history he had with Eddie to manipulate Eddie into giving up Chris. (And no, I don't consider what happened with Kim in the same league. Eddie was honest with Kim and ended things with her. She was bat$#it crazy for dying her hair and showing up at his house uninvited.) Until the day I die, I will not forget the way Helena Diaz smiled as she walked out of Eddie's house with Chris, nor will I ever forget the way she was in such a hurry to leave that she told Eddie if they forgot something he could ship it or they would buy Chris something new.) Buck was the only one expressing concern for what Eddie was doing. [side note: I've never been onboard with Chris moving to TX. Spending the summer there and getting some distance after a huge upset would have been a compromise that worked. However, I truly believed that the whole point Minear had was to deconstruct Eddie and show us who he really is regarding his sexuality. For this reason, I've tried to put my faith in him. Yet here we are. All this time without Chris, and all of 8A could possibly be connected to a larger sexuality story arc, or it could not. (If anything, the Shannon story has two textual canon storylines. In one, she is the love of Eddie's life. The woman he hasn't been able to get over for the entire show. Every season just adds more and more to this part of the story. On the other hand, Eddie has had conversations with others about how he was young and only married Shannon because she was pregnant, they were pressured, & she made him feel normal. I want a definitive answer for what's happening here. For Gay Eddie, both of these things can't be true. For bi-Eddie it could be true. If Eddie is something else on the LGBTQ spectrum, it could be true.)
From 8A, I don't see anything definitive that says he has been deconstructed. The general audience sure wouldn't see it. A priest told him once to allow joy, and he danced in his underwear. (While entertaining, and in other ways, these were great moments and good episodes. It ultimately didn't help the general audience, and these could have happened with Chris still in town, but perhaps not at home for the dancing part.)
8B, on the other hand, has been really great for giving some of Eddie's POV. We have desperately needed that. I'm hoping it will continue. I think the general audience has finally been given something to see since they ignore the subtext. I think that is great. Kudos. Yet for all of this, I still think it could have been done without removing Chris. So my hope, at this point, is that in the next few episodes, Minear will deliver on why it was necessary to move Chris to TX. I already know he is not going to deliver on a satisfying parental ending with Eddie and his parents, so I want to see where removing Chris was worth it.
Anyway, I got a little sidetracked there. Back to parents. The only parent that I've seen earn forgiveness is Hen's Mom, who acknowledged that the blame fell at her feet, apologized for all the hurt and harm she caused, and then demonstrated and worked to prove that she loved her daughter and wanted to be a part of her life.
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tmf-confessions · 7 months ago
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I HAVE TO CONFESS IT. I HAVE TO SAY IT. GOSHDARNIT I HATE LANDER WITH EVERY BONE IN MY BODY- 😭😭😭
Okay, so, may get some slander for this but Let me explain myself first- Lander is literally the least developed, most emotionless relationship in tmf.
1. Its (pretty much) useless to the plot
Literally like, they’re supposed to be “super close”, they used to be childhood best friends and now they’re lovers! But like…When do we see that ever???
Lander was basically just an excuse to give luke some screentime, and to give zander some more screentime. I know that not everything has to be necessary to the plot of tmf, but in general, when things happen, especially in such a short series (less than 15 episodes in season 1), even filler content should somehow be able to push the plot forward, right? Apparently not, because Lander literally did nothing plot wise!
You could argue that yes, it did show Zander and luke that jake was a trustworthy, but theres so many other ways that he could have done it, without the whole lander arc, which could have arguably set up both characters for more interesting arcs?
Honestly, I feel like there could have been an arc where luke accepted stacy, and zander had to learn to deal with heartbreak, and it would still push the narrative in the same direction, could have had a lot more buildup too
2. It feels like it’s just there for representation
As a queer person myself, do not get me wrong, it is WONDERFUL to have representation within media, on bigger more popular shows too! I’m eternally grateful that rosy added them in to showcase a queer relationship, however, lander honestly feels like its just that. Like its there, JUST to showcase a real relationship.
Like, they had a cute confession moment, but it was so early on in the series that it genuinely didn’t seem like something that was built up to. Sure, we got a bit of time, but how much time was that? 2 episodes of build up tops? “Lovesick luke” and “a drummers confession” was like, literally it. Nothing beforehand to build up to it, besides the whole “Zander is gay” and “zander and luke are childhood best friends” thing, but those can exist within platonic relationships too, so thats not really buildup at all
We never get to see why they’re attracted to eachother, other than “wow, they’ve been friends for a while and admire eachother, they must have crushes on eachother” like- even as a person who is VERY VERY VERY romantically attracted (think opposite of aromantic, then scale it 20x past that), its just giving “boy and girl co-star on a show and end up together at the end because you cant have 2 friends be close without them being romantic,” but made queer.
Genuinely, if theres going to be a relationship, i think that (as much as i personally am not really a shipper of it) jailey is a WONDERFUL example.
They kind of grew on eachother, and we see that attraction growing slowly, rather than being shoved in our faces or being rushed. Its a well thought out love arc, and almost perfectly encapsulates a slowly formed relationship. even in such a short show, it didn’t feel rushed.
(While rereading this, i’m really notsure how to phrase my words, so these words absolutely do not reflect my ABSOLUTE feelings on this, but this is about as close as I can get with it. I am in absolutely no way accusing rosy of being homophobic, Infact i see quite the opposite in her, she’s a wonderful ally, its just meh writing)
3. Its honestly not the best ship? (This part is my opinion purely)
Dont get me wrong, they’re not toxic by any means, (infact, they seem quite healthy!) but they 100% have some issues they need to work on. Like… does no one notice how Luke like, threatened jake if he hurt zander? Obsession issues a tad bit, perchance?/notneg
Luke kinda exists to push zander’s story arc along in the first season, so we get like, no luke character traits, which i think definitely contributes to them not being the best pairing, but overall they’re so generically “mehh” of a relationship. They’re just kinda together, to be together.
4. FINAL REASON: It was just there to push jake’s story along.
Honestly, I think this is the underlying reason here. Jake is the main character in a really short show, so if somethings not revolved around him, its gotta be quick. Lander would definitely be so much better with more development, but because its not jake centred, we basically get nothing on them. This isnt rosy’s fault by any means, shes gotta get the main story in ofc, it just sucks that that seems to cost other characters screen time and development that could have been really nice.
Overall, Rosy please make more lander stuff in season 2, I need to stop hating it cause it could genuinely be so cute 🙏
confession #810
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spectrum-color · 8 months ago
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does robin hobb actually doesn't like fitz and fool together? i'm halfway in the series and seem some people speak abt this
This is a tricky question to answer, because we really don’t know where she stands right now. Bear in mind that this answer will have whole series spoilers so I will put it below the cut.
On one hand, the end of Fools Fate featured the Fool leaving Fitz so he can have a hetero happily ever after with Molly, telling him that he’ll never be able to offer him what she can. When people objected to this because of the buildup of Fitz and the Fools relationship through TM and the resurrection scene in particular, Robin Hobb wrote a very angry blog post. In it, she said that Fitz and the Fool were just like childhood best friends, that portraying their relationship as romantic invalidates Fitz and Molly, and people who didn’t like the ending were just angry that they didn’t have sex. She also railed against fanfic and said some pretty offensive things about how for Fitz to be involved with a man, he would have to be gay and it would cheapen his history with women (apparently bisexuals don’t exist.) This got a lot of backlash needless to say and convinced a lot of older fans that she’s homophobic, which you still hear sometimes.
THAT SAID in Rain Wild Chronicles, she put a gay character at the center and gave him a (honestly terrible imo but it has its supporters) romance. This seemed like a possible apology to fans who were angry about the blog post. In the final trilogy, the Fool returns and it’s a mixed bag. On one hand, she portrays Fitz and Mollys life together as lonely, and Fitz misses the Fool fiercely and lacks any true friends without him. On the other hand, when the Fool does return, he’s been horrifically tortured into insanity, is (mistakenly tbf) stabbed by Fitz, rejected by his daughter, and is generally miserable for the entire trilogy. It felt mean spirited and there are people who have theorized it was motivated by spite towards people who didn’t like the separation. idk if I believe that because it came out at a time when grimdark was very popular in the genre, but it is out there.
As I mentioned earlier, Fitz and Molly’s youngest daughter, Bee, is also the Fools child through magic and his successor as White Prophet, which is pretty loaded. Fitz coming to accept that the Fool is her father too and that they should raise her together is actually a major plot point. Their relationship is also repeatedly shown as being Fitzs priority in this trilogy: he writes the Fool intensely emotional letters that he never sends during his years at Withywoods, he leaves Bee behind to save the Fool and then to care for him when he nearly dies, he passes as a couple with Amber while they’re in Kelsingra and Bingtown.
Most importantly, in the end, when he’s dying and carving his memory stone wolf to go into the Skill stream like Verity did, he chooses the Fool to go with him. Not only that, but Bee tells the Fool that she resented him because she thought that Fitz loved him more than he ever loved anyone else, including her. You could def debate if that’s the truth, but it was very charged, and it was on the last few pages, so it was the endgame. It is all very ambiguous and something she hasn’t spoken on outside of the text of the actual book since the TM era. Personally, I just go by what’s in the text, not anything extraneous Hobb said.
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sophiaforevs · 2 years ago
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Anyone else getting really disillusioned with Trek lately? Disco cancelled without notice, Paramount's greedy business decisions and not just canning Prodigy but removing it entirely, Picard's queer erasure... I'm just... like it hurts not only because these are shows I care about but it hurts extra because trek is specifically about being better than bigotry and greed. But we're on the precipice of something and I don't feel like it's something good.
Like, I really wonder if we're about to enter a "no gays in trek" period again. Matalas apparently worked very closely with Rick Berman back in the '90s and if you're not aware of all the bullshit he instituted you can check out this post. Discovery is great for queer rep, but of course it's ending after the fourth season. Picard completely erased the Seven/Rafi relationship. Like, they didn't just needlessly break them up, they went out of their way to keep them from being on camera together too much. Strange New Worlds has potentially two queer characters, Ortega and Chapel, but so far I don't think it's been confirmed on screen that either of them are queer (IIRC, the only mention was in "Spock Amok" where they mentioned something about having a great night with some girls but only in a way that could easily be dismissed by someone who didn't want to acknowledge their queerness).
And I just feel like Paramount looked at it's audience and thought to themselves It doesn't look like we'll be able to keep both the old cishet white men and everyone else so we'll have to pick one and they chose the men. So right now, I'm afraid for Ortega's life. I fully expect them to either not let her be canonically gay or if they do she'll be dead within the episode. I'm afraid that when we finally get a Captain Seven show, they won't let their show lead be a queer woman, and it'll mostly be about Jack saving the day.
And I'm just... what do you do when the show that is explicitly supposed to be about taking a "special delight in differences in ideas and differences in life forms" basically says they don't want you anymore?
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amageish · 2 years ago
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So, Felicia Hardy mentions having a girlfriend in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and this has resulted in a lot of discussion... I wanna talk about it!
One thing I find really interesting about the conversation is that so many articles discussing it credit Felicia's bisexuality to this moment from 2021, where she and Odessa Drake have an on-panel kiss followed by an off-panel one-night-stand.
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While this is pretty friggin' gay and good for them, I feel like reducing the story to "Black Cat kissed a girl in 2021 and that's why she has a girlfriend in the video game" is missing a lot of the larger context... so let's discuss some of the history of Felicia Hardy, AKA the chaotic crime bisexual Black Cat.
Felicia Hardy debuted in 1979. Tamara Blake, her "oldest friend" and female lover, first appeared in 1984, only 5 years later, debuting in the Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man Annual "Cat and Mouse."
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Dropping by for a night of "harmless frolic," Tamara robs Felicia, aiming to play a game of cat-and-mouse with her friend. While their relationship is not explicitly romantic in this story, Tamara is portrayed as very close to her ex-partner-in-crime and very familiar with her relationship habits. She is surprised by the reveal that Black Cat is trying to settle down with Spider-Man - and to be skeptical about if Felicia will be able to tie herself down to one man... almost as if she knows Felicia has a pattern of behaviour when it comes to monogamy.
I don't know if this story was intentionally gay or not, but it would be used as a foundation for later queer storytelling about Felicia, so it seems worth mentioning it here!
What is pretty explicit, however, is Felicia's relationship with her partner Diana in the 2002 Spider-Girl series. They are just called partners, not lovers, but the framing and discussion of it is obvious enough that, in my opinion, if you know that gay people exist and can accept the possibility of them being gay, then you probably will read this and go "Oh, yeah, they are gay."
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This story does not take place in Earth-616 and is primarily focused on Mayday Parker as Spider-Girl and Felicity Hardy as Scarlet Spider, but Felicity does have two moms - and we love that for her!
Jumping ahead a bit, Tamara returned via flashback in Black Cat #10, released in 2020, and this fleshed out their backstory together. It revealed how they trained together under Black Fox as their mentor and clearly shows them using slight-of-hand to hold hands and canoodle without Fox noticing what they're up to.
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This is just a super-cute panel to me. That's such a clever use of slight-of-hand; I love it so much...
The next year, in Black Cat Vol 2 #3, there's a vision of Black Cat surrounded by a harem of her lovers, which includes Tamara and Odessa alongside several of her more famous male affairs.
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Shortly thereafter, she kissed Odessa on the lips, as discussed earlier. In case the earlier evidence was not enough for you, Felicia Hardy is now formally unquestionably a girl-kisser. We even later get to see her and Drake's one-night-stand via flashback, in case there was any lingering doubts about what happened.
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However, it also doesn't end there. It's not like Felicia just kissed a women, Marvel patted themselves on the back, and now she's been back to dating Peter Parker exclusively. There are plenty of comic characters who have had one defining "queer moment" and mum's been the word on their queerness since then... Felicia, meanwhile, is very loudly bisexual.
Immediately, she got a Pride variant cover in 2021 and has been on at least one cover every year since. My favourite is probably this one from 2022, which is both very poly and also features Peter Parker... I'm sure if you'd ask Marvel corporate they'd say he is just there as an ally, but it's still funny to me.
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In 2021, she was the character used for the grand return of Jessie Drake (Felicia really has a thing for women with last names that end with -ake, apparently). Jessie was Marvel's first explicitly transgender character, debuting all the way back in 1992. After getting off to a rocky start, Felicia blows up a building with Jessie's help and they go out for dinner.
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(This story was not followed up on as the book it was supposed to lead into got cancelled. Drake has not so much as cameoed since. F in the chat for Jessie Drake).
In 2022, there was an 5-issue mini-series all about Tony Stark and Felicia bonding over their mutual problem of supervillain ex-girlfriends trying to murder them. Of the two halves of the pair, Felicia gets the better deal - Tamara not only teams up with Felicia and Tony to fight Tony's ex, but they do so much flirting that Tony forgets that are not currently dating.
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And, finally, in 2023, there was another Felicia story in a Pride issue wherein she hooked up with a pseudo-diety and also worked with Gambit to fuck with some transphobes in the process. Good for them!
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This is not by any means a definitive list of everything gay Felicia has done - she famously flirts with MJ and Cindy a lot, for instance - but I hope it provides some larger context to Felicia's sexuality in the game.
Moreover, I hope it shows that queer storytelling isn't always about writing a single gay kiss that generates headlines. A lot of Marvel and DC queer storytelling that goes viral isn't the actual multi-issue multi-comic-run queer stuff; it's the one big kiss or something subtextual that happens to feature MCU heroes with better SEO then people like Felicia have... and I think it's the more under-the-radar stuff that's often more valuable.
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elacular-kink · 8 months ago
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Poly-Techhic character sheet
For readers' reference, here's some descriptions and basic info about the main four characters of Poly-Techhic. (This may be edited later on).
Edit: This character sheet's formatting is completely borked. Go to this one instead, it's actually readable.
Susanna Jane Butler
Also called Susan and Susie
Appearance:
4'10" (147 cm)
Very average weight and build
Tan skin
Chinese
Adopted by American Catholics.
Short, straight black hair
Bangs can fall over eyes.
Wears baggy clothes
Almost always has on a baggy hoodie with the hood up.
Neurotypical (I think?)
(The author isn't, so...)
Extremely gay
Sophomore (AKA, 2nd year)
Loves and is studying music
Plays multiple instruments
Piano
Guitar
Sings well
Learned how to sing in kids choir in her church.
Is way less cool than she looks or acts
Is cooler than she thinks she is.
Is great at telling people off
Is terrible at telling people good things.
Has a hiccup fetish.
Has been like this as long as she can remember.
Has extremely big emotions and anxiety about it.
She's not able to get off without it.
Olivia Elizabeth Jones
Appearance
5'9" (175 cm)
Skinny
Isn't skinny on purpose, just naturally doesn't develop much fat.
Annoyed when people conflate thinness with health.
Very dark skin
Black (African American)
Nearly buzzed black hair
4C texture
Uses reading glasses
Keeps them around her neck on a chain for practicality
Everyone else says it makes her look like an old lady.
Wears very practical clothes.
All fabrics must be soft and/or smooth.
Clothes are generally tight. She dislikes having clothes that hang loose.
Doesn't care about how butch or femme it is.
Autistic
Very blunted affect
Sincerely emotes only for huge feelings.
Still feels things when not emoting, just doesn't move her face much about it.
Hates social niceties
Is overly honest with people
Aromantic
Does not feel or have a great understanding of romantic attraction.
Can still identify it in others
Bisexual with a female lean.
Considers Susanna her life partner, but does not consider her a girlfriend.
"See, this is why I explain it with 'it's complicated', Olivia."
Does consider Maya a girlfriend
"It means something different to her, and I can do that."
Sophomore (AKA, 2nd year)
Gets the hiccups all the time.
Doesn't generally mind them.
Has been shunned or punished for them in the past.
Thinks this is stupid.
This is part of why Susanna has been her best friend.
Almost nothing cures them.
No apparent medical reason, she's just very hiccupy.
Kind of a troll
People don't expect it from her since she seems so serious.
Primary victims are Susanna and Maya.
Extremely emotionally perceptive
Maya Heffernan
Appearance
5'4" (163 cm)
Feels taller because of her personality.
Also just often wears cleats
Both very muscular and very chubby
Built like a professional weightlifter.
Is capable of lifting weights like a professional weightlifter.
Is basically a physical freak with absurd strength, speed, and endurance.
Exercises constantly.
White
Ridiculously pale (Irish ancestry)
Covered in orange and brown freckles
Massive mane of curly red hair
Sheds red hairs everywhere.
Wears glasses
Including when playing rugby
Has prescription sports goggles
Hates getting things in her eyes=no contacts.
Almost always wears her rugby uniform.
She's number 7, the openside flanker
So she gets to tackle people!
A lot!
Dresses very butch outside of it.
ADHD
Takes adderall occasionally when she needs to focus
Does not like how she feels on it.
Solo-poly
Wants to avoid becoming overly dependent on someone or having them become dependent on her.
Still enjoys having romantic and sexual relationships with many people.
Keeps most relationships at arm's length.
Only forms closer relationships with other people with big poly energy.
Has gaydar, but for polyamorous tendencies.
Pansexual
Not all pansexuals are sluts. But she is.
Fucks lots of women, men, and other types of people.
("But where are the men?" They're offscreen somewhere, shut up.)
Junior (AKA, 3rd year.)
Gives people nicknames
Whether they want them or not.
Will relent if they genuinely hate them.
Eventually...
Susanna=Susie
Olivia=Liv
Kiran=Kiki
Chaos agent
Loves to disrupt people's lives.
Often for the better, sometimes for the worse, almost always for both.
Genuinely thinks this is fun and wants others to have fun too.
Actively trolls people
Frequently goes too far.
Extremely easily bored.
Will cause problems when bored.
If there's nobody to cause problems for, will cause problems for herself.
Really fucking stupid.
Under no illusions about this.
Has always struggled with academia
Has no common sense
Has no impulse control
Is still alive because she's impossible to kill
Kiran Mandal
Appearance
6'1" (185 cm)
Very fat
Deep brown skin
Indian American
One parent is first generation, one parent is second.
Long black hair.
Wants to do interesting things with it, is too nervous to try.
Always wears a dress or a skirt.
Has yet to figure out what her fashion sense is, has been fairly conservative thus far.
Autistic
Terrified of eye contact
Often makes it anyway due to masking.
Always tries to "win" eye contact.
Has a lot of difficulty socializing
Has very little experience doing so, which doesn't help.
Particularly with people her own age.
Extremely socially anxious and shy.
Stims and makes repetitive movements
Used to make a lot of sounds with her mouth, had that mostly trained out of her.
Has never been able to stop flapping when anxious or happy.
Is extremely embarrassed by this.
Sees it as a personal failing.
Trans
MtF
Is on hormones
Has not been on them long.
Not very secure in her womanhood
Is rarely accidentally misgendered.
If someone misgendered her on purpose, the other three would kill them.
Uncertain sexuality
Definitely likes girls.
Definitely really really really really really likes girls.
Freshman (1st year)
Really academically smart
Brilliant at the vast majority of what would be considered "nerd shit".
Particularly likes computer programming.
(Forgive me for my trans woman stereotype.)
Has studied under professional tutors all her life.
Speaks English and Hindi fluently, is proficient in Spanish
Currently being tutored and learning Mandarin.
(please don't expect me to know anything about any of these languages, German is super close to English and I'm still not learning jack shit).
Has very little "street smarts"
Very limited practical knowledge of the world.
Family is stupid rich
Probably some tech sector shit.
Dad may be an insufferable tech bro.
She has access to a shitload of money.
She has no idea what money is actually worth, but is self-aware about that.
Has been insulated from a lot of normal people's experiences because of that
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hcgossips · 7 months ago
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He spent so much time staging, so much effort creating a persona, to have it destroyed in the first week of this shenanigan PR. For years, they made sure articles were published, interviews were staged bringing (fake?) info about him, his hobbies, girlfriends and especially his Character, selling him as a Humpty Dumpty (dubious).
Now, all that material is being questioned and has been used against him. The straight womanizer gave place to the guy who staged dates to avoid being seen as gay, the gentlemanly gave place to rudeness as he starts to block people on his IG, avoids giving autographs and runs from reporters, the speeches and stories in interviews are, now, pointed as idiotic lies. Now, everything goes through a microscope and the dubious gave place to fake.
Differently from the original story, Dr. Frankenstein seems to be in total control of his creature. Whoever created Henry Cavill was always in control. The creature doesn't bother. As long as cash continues falling in his account to pay for his vanities and for expensive and silly hobbies. Of course, having all that money followed by an Ego massage practiced by fans, is much better. But, apparently, he won't be able to have both.
He will be sad for a while, but money and visibility (the celeb complex) will speak louder. As long as he has a role and continues partying, playing his silly games and spending in fancy suits he will be pleased. What he doesn't realize is that roles, money and fans' messages come together. If there are no fans, there are no significant roles, money will be low and visibility (the reason why they insisted on this trashy PR stunt with a promiscuous) will be gone.
But, apparently, his team is, now, and discretely, trying to make him look like an unfriendly, unsympathetic and unpleasant celeb, like JLo. Or an actor who distances himself from fans, like GC and AJ. Why? Is that the other option they found to replace the fake dates? Can't he be a celeb for something really meaningful?
Where are all those campaigns promoting fake health (MT) and love for animals (Was that even true?) and his hometown (Durell)? Why not continue the ambassador of something really meaningful and important, instead of parading with promiscuous, sl*t and gullible for fame women? The way he stopped all his promotional PRs gives the idea he had decided to start from scratch with a new persona and management (who might turn him into the kind of actor who heads a foundation for money).
Why not have a real cause to start with? How about doing PR stunts promoting things he really believes in and not just stuff for money and fame? How about representing a significant cause that would really help and is meaningful? Like being the voice of many? He could start promoting mental health, for a change, speaking in the name of children, against bullying, for example. But, not while mocking, bullying and gaslighting fans.
Notice he never leaves his comfort zone. Promoting Durell is promoting home. It was always safe. But, I'm sure there are other more significant causes to promote that could give him much more visibility and the status of a SS or an AJ. The problem is he doesn't like to commit to bigger things, 'cause it makes him uncomfortable. And he has no emotional IQ to deal with those. He always has to be in his comfort zone.
Henry Cavill is emotionally very weak, afraid and insecure. Acting was a pleasant and profitable way he managed to deal with his insecurities. He could be considered an ignorant for never being in college for a degree. He didn't go to the army, maybe because of emotional limitations. He never commits to serious and real relationships, only to staged and fake ones. The self-confident man he portrays doesn't exist and he has been showing it.
The impression is that the new management, with or without DG - He's with a new agency that bought the old one he was with -, seems to be the reason for some of the changes. But, this transition was a disaster. Because, DG did her best, according to how she sees acting management. But, it wasn't enough.
She overwhelmingly enhanced the sex symbol model image, but, significantly belittled the actor. The result was, of course, a tarnished image of himself. It was easier to push his pretty face and hot body rather than make him a better actor. She might be a great business woman (what I doubt, for I think that is a fake image, as well), but as a manager she surely, left a lot behind to be desired.
And her lack of response to everything that has been happening by addressing it to his fans, shows that: or the circus created was a reckless first attempt of the new agency or she is really a sloppy manager and gives a f**k to her client's integrity.
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butchtwelfthdoctor · 11 months ago
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i got peer reviewed on this post by @pikechris (sorry for the tag hope you dont mind) but still had way more thoughts hehe anyways i was gonna leave tags but it got pretty long sooo those tags and the rest of my Thoughts under the cut cos damn this did get really really long
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i looked in the replies of that post & people you're not getting it he didnt kiss rory with romantic feeling behind rory was just there and eleven got excited about something else and rory visibly looks weirded out afterwards. it was practically eleven kissing as stimming. like when he kissed jenny. it wasnt out of romantic feelings at all he knows madame vastra would kill him & he isnt interested he was just happy to be able to move after the crimson horror thingy. kissing rory was also played as a joke it was a funny haha yknow. i also dont remember eleven kissing the james corden character but like whatever i cant imagine that being meaningful in any way either.
OH in the same way that nardole having a crush on twelve (canon btw nardole practically says as much is played as a joke. like with the post i mention above, like thats played as a joke because can you imagine the cool very beautiful twelfth doctor having romantic or sexual feelings towards nardole, who is literally, as missy puts it, comic relief? i dont think that its queer is a part of that but idk it might be.
but in any case. the doctor hasnt kissed or been kissed by a man with romantic intent onscreen since 2005. we COULD have had a thirteen and yaz kiss but we didnt which is i think why? people forget? about them? doctor was confimred queer she had lesbian attraction but nothing really. happened about it. so yeah. also apparently a lot of people didnt watch thirteen like cmonnnnnnnnnnn it really isnt as bad as people make it out to be.
twelve kissed missy who was probably the only person he would have kissed at that point. he's horrified when she kisses him before he knows who she is but then the very next episode he kisses her in a... if not exactly romantic a very emotionally charged way. and she knows that. we dont see them kiss again even as their relationship grows more and more romantically inclined (which i actually support any amount of canon thoschei conventional romance would probably be. bad and kill the appeal immediately) because like i said. she turns every dead body on earth into a cyberman then lies about where gallifrey is then fakes her own death then tries to get the doctor to kill clara then he leaves her on skaro iirc then he is supposed to kill her but doesnt and instead locks her in a vault for ~70 years but its okay cos they have takeaway food in there together sometimes. and then world enough and time / the doctor falls happens which i cant even start talking about or i'll never stop & thirteen was 1) aroace and 2) too emotionally repressed to even get close to kissing Anyone, let alone the master after all the timeless child stuff, even though she probably?? wanted to kiss yaz?? a bit??? at least?? yaz wanted to kiss her but there was too much emotional repression going on on both sides but mainly the doctor Which Brings Me To My Point.
Fifteen is the most, shall we say, flirty doctor we've had for a while, and Ncuti is also the first openly queer actor to play the doctor on tv, and while of course everyone on tumblr is Very familiar with all of the ways the doctor is queer (and neurodivergent) without any need for the show to specifically say so, it is really really great that a) the doctor is played by a gay actor b) there are more queer characters and c) we got an actual episode where The Doctor Is Gay With A Man. especially after the. somewhat odd. way yaz & thirteen's relationship was dealt with at the end of thirteen's run, which even though was a queer relationship was like....... not really. shown. they just talked about it. and had icecream. okayyy i guesssssssssss
BUt NOW fifteen gets an entire episode where his mutual attraction to another male character (assuming the doctor is actually a man, pretty sure i read somewhere Ncuti was he/they-ing the doctor but he might have meant the doctor in general, not just fifteen) is a Main Focus of the episode. its the main tension, the main drama, the main interest - you pretty much know from the 'okay we'll teleport the chuldur away' that thats whats going to happen, and i for one went 'oh my god rouge is going to get teleported' from the moment the doctor fixed it to carry six. the Main Focus is now their flirting, their dynamic, the way Those Two Interact, their almost kiss (which the doctor was so ready to duck out of as soon at the thing beeped, but you can tell by the look on rouge's face that he's for sure trying that again later). the doctor showing actual episode-arc spanning romantic interest in a character, let alone a specifically queer one... that doesnt happen a lot.
(the girl in the fireplace has a lot of superficial similarities, though you could also argue that madame de pompadour was far more romantically into ten than he was into her. thirteen's characteristically very awkward attempt at flirting towards yaz in the sea devils special didnt have nearly as much focus on it)
but really the point is the doctor was kissed! for the first time on tv in ten years!!!! and it was a queer kiss!! and that romance was The Major Part of the episode!! the doctor doctorwho was gay kissing a man on out television screens after a genuinely quite good build up!!!!!!!!!!! it would of of course be amazing if rouge makes another appearance (i think he will, most likely in a later season instead of the next 2 eps), and even better if we had a longer arc of that romance, but we got it!!! actual canonical queer romance for the doctor!! their first canon kiss in like at least a couple hundred years of their life, and while i am an aspec doctor who believer there are 100% time when he feels attraction and this was for sure one if them. and it was really beautiful & emotional & the flirting was fun & rouge was a good character & their dynamic was really good and yay!!!!
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heretherebedork · 1 year ago
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My deepest fear for Playboyy is that everyone is going to get a happy ending and I am going to regret watching this show because so many of them don't deserve the happy ending the show is writing them towards (or even the happiness the show has already given them) because fuck this if Boston ends up with the worst ending that Den has written I am going to be so pissed off you don't even understand.
How the fuck was Boston the best written promiscuous character when the other show is literally written about sex workers? Oh, wait, it's because the treatment of sex worker's sex is very, very different than chosen casual sex by the writers. Casual sex is fine if you're being paid for it and you need the money but if you're just doing it for enjoyment? Nope! Not allowed! Absolutely forbidden.
I went into this for messy gays with mixed endings so why the fuck is the couple that started with horrifying blackmail and where all the growth happened off-screen getting the sappiest, simplest ending of the whole bunch!? Why.
And why is the show suddenly deadset of villainizing Zouey and turning him into the worst person and having Teena staring at Captain? Why did First and Soong already just... forget about First's father who apparently doesn't matter any more? I appreciate that Keen got Captain kicked out but why make sure he also hurt Puen? Why did Zouey have to apologize for calling them monsters when First literally admitted to Soong he was being a monster and felt he had to make it up to Puen but Zouey still had to beg on his knees and not get forgiven?
sgjkgdf this show is like a punishment made specifically for me.
(Particularly how the show cannot seem to make the connection between kink and romance and, in fact, seems to have placed them in diametric opposition to each other and all the kink vanishes the instant romance enters the chat particularly for the subs in the relationships who are rarely there by choice and never seem to be able to say no without saying no to all of it and are often forced into places of being hurt by the Dom despite talk of safe words. The sub never chooses to be kinky, it is always forced on them by the Dom and they regularly express being 'tired' of being kinky or hating it and it is quickly removed from the relationship when they get serious.)
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metvmorqhoses · 1 year ago
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Nononono waitttt what do you mean about Good Omens season 2?? Why didn't you like it?
I personally thought it was better than season 1 - better paced. There wasn't a single boring moment. And sure, the plot maybe had fewer stakes, but seeing as this was a bridge season between season 1 (the of Good Omens book) and hopefully season 3 (the book that never came out, “668” or something like that), I thought it was good. Warm & fuzzy.
I need to know your opinion now
As abashed as I am to have to respond to such enthusiasm with, well... the very opposite of enthusiasm, please at least know that I consider the truth the best thing I have to offer in general and in regard to that unfortunate (yet somehow still-untouchable?) mess the second season of Good Omens has proven itself to be in particular, so accept it as some sort of well-intended even if perhaps unwanted gift.
This is probably the most unpopular opinion one can have on Tumblr right now, so I'll go straight to the point: Gaiman managed to ruin Good Omens (perhaps he isn't able to write it by himself, perhaps he got carried away with fan service, who knows), once one of the most delightful, witty, engaging, profound books/shows existent, changing its register and raison d'être in order to turn it into, per great popular request, the same lame simple plotless cheesy cookie-cutter gay romance without rime and reason apparently every single piece of media is deforming itself into lately.
The dramatic loss of... artistic quality this show suffered is appalling and even more appalling is the fact I seem to be one of the very few on this green earth to have even noticed? Did I perhaps read too much in the show before? I don't think so, it was indeed a masterpiece. I saw many die-hard fans of the series beyond puzzled at this last season too, straining themselves to try and make sense of it with wild theories, justifying them with the simple fact that Neil Gaiman is a genius and surely this hot mess must mean something, right? I wasn't aware the world was mostly populated by hysterically besotted people hailing Neil Gaiman's alleged greatness from dawn til dusk without contextualized merit, and the discovery didn't particularly excite me, to be quite honest. I think a healthy amount of fairness in the critique of any artist should always be the norm, but I digress.
I'll try to keep it as brief and matter-of-factly as possible, especially since some time has passed and the fumes of my rage aren't as scorching or as precise as they used to be lol
In a word, this season was subpar. Not only did it lack that original witty, ineffable meaningfulness, that intrinsic and very human sense of wonder and protectiveness towards life and its profound sense the original show brimmed with, but even from the most basic literary point of view, it literally lacked a plot worthy of this name, a story, characters that felt complex and real instead of caricatures who tried and reenact themselves, and in general what should have been, quite simply, good writing.
More than Good Omens' long-awaited season 2, this felt more like a high-budget filler fanfiction created by someone who didn't know what they were doing with story and characters most of the time, but who sure as hell wanted to please the audience to disastrous lengths.
The very first thing that irked me beyond belief, and it literally started from minute one, was the immediate, more or less subtle, change in acting from both Michael and David. Michael stressed it way more, with, in my opinion, quite tragic results, thing that from the start immediately allowed me to guess where they were going with their (already established as extremely complex) relationship, entirely turning the vibe from sophisticated allegory of Divine Comedy kind of love (love for your enemy, love for your friend, love in all its form and in its entirety) to banal romantic comedy-level gay drama, downgrading what Crowley and Aziraphale shared (the subtle abysses of it!) into the most boring and obvious of soap operas, obviously forcing them to act out of character in order to compensate (was any flash-back meaningful to their character or the story? Was there a writing reason behind any of them beyond writing for the sake of filling screen-time?).
Some relationships deserve to be left alone, alone in their subtlety and ambiguousness or you'll inevitably ruin them. Not everyone must kiss on screen, no matter how much the audience screams and throws up for it. This little woke drama completely ruined and eclipsed everything else those two characters were for each other, turning them from cosmic and devastatingly loyal best friends to petty and dumb lovers that need two plot devices (the messy pointless and quite frankly offensive representation-wise lesbians from across the street they literally met five minutes prior) to tell them they actually have feeling for each other and should share them. After literal millennia of this relationship, relationship that has its own inner workings and reasons, we needed the plot-lesbians to subvert the order of things and spur Crowley into action, obviously obtaining disastrous and lame results? Are we witnessing the interaction of immortal beings or five-year-olds? The only way I can genuinely make sense of this dumbness is considering those two female "characters" (that feel anything but real people) no more than that, characters, golems, put there by Metatron via the power of the Book of Life (again, so many Chekhov's guns with no use whatsoever in this season) in order to separate Az and Crowley using the only thing that could succeed in doing it - an ill placed declaration of love.
But even this doesn't match the true être of what Good Omens originally was nor comes full circle with the ineffable mystery season 1 ended with. It genuinely feels like Gaiman changed the whole rhyme and reason of the story, vibes, meaning, register, just to meet the modern needs of a category that is sadly phagocytizes everything else in both life and fiction. And I find it a true pity - and a bore.
And even leaving aside this personal boredom of mine at a non-existent plot that consisted in 1) a big mystery that promised cosmic repercussions (season 1 ended with the after-nonapocalyptic world that was slightly changed just because two enemies had loved each other and life too much not to oppose god's plan - fact that was probably god's plan all along), mystery that was actually no mystery at all (two random, from the original story's perspective, previous minor characters in literally ten supernatural minutes fell in love and run away together) and that meant virtually nothing in the grand scheme of things, but serving as a plot device so that the other two minor new characters could intrude into the protagonists' relationship so they could finally have the excuse to jump literary genre and kiss & queer tragedy the story away 2) an endless series of symbols, facts, episodes and characters that constantly seemed to hint at something but that in reality resulted in nothing story-wise (also, the change of heart in God's personality, first the witty and almighty trickster for the greater good, now the divine bully??), even leaving all this aside, I'm mostly disappointed the quality of the writing plummeted so inesorabily one of my comfort show turned into the symbol of an artistic era I'm utterly distraught to have to witness - the era of crowd-pleasers and un-imagination.
As for this being a filler season, writing in such an unresolved way (basic and predictable plot, colourless characters, cliché romance, hours of happenings that don't mean a thing in the current story) is unacceptable and a failure, even if you are a famous writer. You cannot waste hours of the audience's time going nowhere shielded by the sole future promise of sense. Writing doesn't work that way, and I'm sincerely appalled to see people noticing it and deciding to excuse it with a "surely next season everything will look genius!". It doesn't work this way. The faults were too many, they can't possibly be all resolved next season. This product wasn't great, even if your faves kissed and your little fanfictions came true.
The sad thing is, Good Omens used to be a work of art, not the next consumeristic piece of fiction to satisfy woke needs.
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Anime Ramble 2: Banana Fish is mid
So, once again I'm going to use this empty blog to ramble incessantly about something that only matters to me. Specifically, the gay romance in a crime thriller anime. It took up my thoughts all day, today, and if I don't write them down I'm going to explode.
Banana Fish was written in the 1980's, but received an anime adaptation in 2018. And having watched the whole thing through, I fully believe that the story was written in the 80's. It has a very 1980's idea of what gay people look like and do, and I mean that in all the worst ways.
(Content Warning: Sexual Assault, Pedophilia, Homophobia. It's a deep hole we're going down.)
Banana Fish is the story of Ash Lynx, a runaway mafia hitman with a 200 IQ who is a crack shot with a revolver, spends his free time at the New York Central Library, and whose kill count exceeded his age somewhere around the time he was 15. His romantic interest is Eiji, Japanese photographer and the show's resident Very Good Boy.
Ash is gay. Or at least, that's how he's presented. He has an estranged relationship with his father, which apparently happened sometime after Ash was repeatedly assaulted by an adult, when he was eleven, and Ash was eventually forced to kill his abuser. Why is Ash's father so distant and harsh, even though he knows all of the stuff that happened to his youngest son? Unsure. The show asks the question, and there's a slight hint that a reconciliation is possible, but ultimately Ash's father isn't on screen long enough to provide a clear answer.
If I were a cynical person, I would point out that "a history of being a sexual abuse victim" and "an abusive father figure" are two very common "reasons" given by bigots who want to explain why gay people exist and why their state of mind is a mental health issue. This would have been especially true in the 80's, where homosexuality was only recently removed from the DSM as a mental disorder. However, I'm not a cynical person. I'll just assume that the writers just didn't have enough time to give us a compelling reason.
ASH AND EIJI ARE CUTE TOGETHER, I GUESS
The relationship between our two leads has quite a few nice points going for it. Ash makes a big deal about how tragic his past is and how he can't trust anyone, but around Eiji he's allowed to be his authentic self, without fear of judgment or betrayal. Their interactions together, particularly in safe moments where there isn't a bad guy to fight, is a very realistic depiction of what two good friends might get up to, when they're alone together. They enjoy each other's company, have a lot of cute moments, and there are even what I would identify as clear moments of emotional intimacy, that made for compelling viewing. I do, however, have two main issues with it.
The first is a phenomenon I'm beginning to see quite frequently, in the world of yaoi. It's what I refer to as the "Uke's dillemma." I can understand what Ash gets out of the relationship. A person who accepts him for him, who can look past his violent existence and treat him like a human being is something valuable and healing to him, and the show makes no bones about that. However, I find myself less able to answer what Eiji is getting, from the relationship.
His only real flaw as a character that Ash might be able to address is the temporary loss of his confidence, that he experienced before meeting Ash. That basically gets resolved a few episodes in, with a scene where he has to help save multiple people, including Ash. For the rest of the show, it really feels like Eiji is purely there for Ash's sake. He, being (as I mentioned previously) a Very Good Boy, sees a person who's clearly suffering, underneath the mask of a totally cool badass mafia assassin, and decides to show Ash the milk of human kindness in order to heal his pain and remind him that he's actually a person, and not just a wild animal that needs to be put down.
And while that's cute and cool and very much worth putting to film, that's not exactly a good reason to enter into a romantic relationship with someone. In fact, that feels more like a good reason to adopt a shelter animal.
0/10. NO HAND HOLDING
The second problem with the romantic relationship between our two leads is that... it's not really a romantic relationship. Like, make no mistake. It's not like I was expecting these two boys to spend their free time with their hands down each other's pants. However, they don't really do anything that indicates that they're in a relationship. They spend a lot of time together. They're clearly willing to throw down, when the other is in danger. They even share a few moments of genuine tenderness. But spending time and being emotionally intimate with your friend isn't gay, no matter what the dude-bros tell you, and neither they nor anyone around them seem to give any sort of indication that they should be read as being romantically involved.
Okay, they kiss, once, but I'll get to that in a second.
By itself, this isn't a big deal. It might even be a point in the show's favor. Considering how sleazy they make the world of gay people, how overloaded the plot is with sexual assaults and horrible, senseless violence, the fact that they make the relationship we're meant to root for wholesome? Not the worst decision.
It's a little weird, though. I mean, this was the chance for the show to show us what a good gay relationship might look like. It's a chance to show how Ash would engage with a partner he genuinely loves, when there isn't a gun to his head. A chance to present what a healthy, constructive relationship could look like, even in an environment as ugly as Banana Fish's. And what they gave us... was a very good friendship. Like, an outstanding friendship. A friendship I would happily defend, were it lucky enough to come my way. But that's all it is. You could honestly walk away from the show with the idea in your head that Eiji was straight, and was only staying close to Ash because he's a Very Good Boy and could see it was what Ash needed.
But... I'm overthinking this, maybe. A friendship is a good thing to put on screen, I think. Besides, even if they don't ever say the "L" word, there's enough subtext for you to be able to make the educated guess that they love each other. I don't need to give this any more thought. I could just sit back, and enjoy the wholesome vibes of Boy Assassin and Very Good Boy.
BUT IF I WERE A CYNICAL PERSON...
The show presents gay sexuality as being "bad." I'm not even sensationalizing. Ash's first crimes, his first acts of evil that send him down the violent road he finds himself on, happen as a direct result of being raped as a child and needing to defend himself. The show's main antagonist is a sadistic gay mob boss who's obsessed with owning Ash like a collector's item. Sexual assault and rape are employed or threatened by every throwaway minion who has any sort of power over the protagonists. The cast can be split into three groups: people who rape and abuse people, the victims of abuse... and Ash, who half the time is in the victim category, but the other half of the time uses sexuality as a cover for dishonest behavior.
Ash is openly sexual, at times, but these are always in controlled moments. Often, it's to distract or to call in a bad guy, so he can incapacitate or kill them when they're off guard. That time we get our big kiss between Ash and Eiji, it was all part of a clever ruse on Ash's part to sneak a message out of prison, and not an actual expression of love. For Ash, sex is either something that happens to him, or that he uses to get something he wants.
So, imagine the opportunity presented in front of us, here. Ash has a Very Good Boy, around. One who will not judge him, won't betray him, and who he can finally be his genuine self with. And when given that opportunity, the writer's apparently decided that their perfect gay relationship, the relationship Ash was going to have with his designated soulmate... is one that can easily be mistaken for generic friendship. One where you complain about food, together, but you sleep in separate beds. Where you call your partner "big brother" and only ever touch them when you're having a nervous breakdown and (understandably) need to be held. Where you never say the "love" part out loud, and none of your friends say it out loud, either.
And... I'm not a cynic. I'm not. But if I were, I could have a field day with this. I could write the entire world of Banana Fish as the sort of Gay Experience Conspiracy Theorycrafting that was absolutely rife in the mid and late 20th century. Because it seems like what the writers are suggesting is that the key to being happy as a gay character is to not be gay.
Being gay, according to the writers of Banana Fish, is a sort of corruption, that happens because you were abused and traumatized. Only bad people express thoughts that could be construed as gay sexuality, and in every case it's just meant to serve some greater purpose. Breaking a person's spirit. Getting them vulnerable so they can be killed. And when you find somebody who can finally let you heal from your trauma, all you ever wanna do is take Japanese lessons with your Very Good Boy friend who isn't your boyfriend. Let me just make that last part clear. He's just your very good friend, who just so happens to be a Very Good Boy, and the two of you don't even hold hands.
And then when it's time for your Very Good Boy friend to leave, to go to Japan and back to his regular Very Good Boy life, the moment you even think about going after him, you're gonna get stabbed in the street and murdered, as the consequences of your evil lifestyle finally catch up with you.
((Spoiler alert, btw.))
THAT'S HOW I'D READ IT, IF I WERE A CYNICAL PERSON
Luckily, I'm not a cynical person. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that all that could be inferred from a casual viewing. Surely, I'm just mad that the anime tagged with "gay" and "romance" didn't have enough obvious romance in it.
In conclusion, Banana Fish is a competently animated and drawn crime thriller. It's protagonist is a Mary Sue, but for the story it's telling that's not the worst thing he could be. Any sort of conspiracy theories I have about the writers and their opinion of gay people are probably irrelevant. 6/10. Watched it while I was sick. Killed time while the virus was being killed.
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thehumanflintfun · 1 year ago
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My experience with Scott Pilgrim
This post contains spoilers for the Netflix show Scott Pilgrim Takes Off and for the Scott Pilgrim comics
The comic
I read the Scott Pilgrim comics only once, about 4 months ago, and I remember thinking "c'mon, it's only six volumes, I can binge them easily". Before I know it, it's 2 AM and I am at the last volume, half asleep; I didn't really enjoy anything about the comic, but I know myself, and I know that if I simply stopped without knowing how it ended I wouldn't be able to sleep.
Ramona randomly vanished and I can't understand what's happening, probably because I was half asleep. Apparently she was kidnapped by Gideon, but she let it happen because she needed a break or something... I don't really remember, I need to reread them.
Overall (this opinion may not represent what I actually think since I did read them once AND I was half asleep at the last volume) I didn't hate the comics, but I also didn't really enjoy them. The only thing I actively disliked is how Wallace is written: the gay character who has to show how gay he is every time he appears, which is not really a problem; my problem is that he has (iirc) barely any relevance to the plot, barely any personality, barely any character development and he's not even funny.
As for the rest, I realized this story was not for me when, after three volumes, I still didn't care about Scott, Ramona, their relationship or the band subplot. I also didn't understand the tone at all, and I wasn't sure which things to take seriously
Then came Scott Pilgrim Takes Off
(I didn't watch the movie)
Scott Pilgrim Takes Off
Despite not enjoying the comics, I really wanted to watch this. My thought process was: "this will be a chance to experience Scott Pilgrim again and see if it's better than I remember. Maybe the jokes will be funnier in animated form if the dub is good. And even if it's not better, the animation and art style will be good, at least". I did not imagine it would be different from the comics.
Comes Friday. Me, Brian and a friend watch the first episode: the italian dub is eccellent, with a lot of good voices, which made the experience very enjoyable and many jokes land. There are some awkward moments, but the comic was full of them so I ignore them. Then Gideon appears and I laugh my ass off (idk, probably the fact that he's so confident behind his dozens of monitors, and he thinks he's so cool). I remember he only showed up at the end, but I simply think it's something the show added. Then the episode ends with Scott's death (at this point I'm slightly confused, but I rationalize with "maybe I don't remember the story that well".
Then I randomly read a comment saying "remember when we all thought this was a simple adaptation?"
Now my interest is piqued. I usually don't like when the adaptation changes the source material, but I didn't enjoy the comics so maybe it's a good thing?
Knowing that my friend was not available for another week, I binged the entire thing.
When it became meta with Neil's sleep paralysis demon writin Canon Scott Pilgrim, I was IN.
Final thoughts
I loved it, so many characters had more depth and/or were more enjoyable. All the exes were much more interesting, Wallace is not a cardboard cutout anymore, there's less focus on the things I didn't enjoy in the comics, I found the tone to be much clearer... (although I still don't know which things to take seriously, but it didn't bother me this time)
If I have to compare two of my experiences, I would compare Scott Pilgrim to Spiderverse: both are things that I didn't really like (except for Spiderverse's animation) but are praised a lot. Then a sequel comes out that is much more meta and I love it.
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just-jae · 4 months ago
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More thoughts about Arcane
Now that I've given it more thought.
I do have more issues with this show that before were just inkling thoughts like "Do the Noxians even have anything to do with anything going on in Piltover? Why are they the climax of the story?"
So here's a collection of thoughts on Arcane's flaws:
Violet and Caitlin's personalities and development absolutely don't lend well to them being a healthy couple. There is little perspective given on why Vi, a family oriented and socially aware person likes Caitlin. She's hot, and she's sweet, that's it, except most of the time she's not being sweet. The more Caitlin loses her innocence, the less sweet she is. And the power dynamic between them never closes. Caitlin only gains more and more power over Violet. And Violet is only driven further and further from her virtues by Caitlin. This could have been a good story if the relationship was treated like a toxic one, but the writing clearly perceives the two as being good for each other even though the one with more political power in the relationship was shown abusing her when upset without a proper address to it afterward.
Core themes being sidelined for a common enemy trope and relationship resolutions. The classism between Piltover and the Undercity was never resolved. They only came together in the end to avoid anihilation from a third party who's been absent most of the show. Why would the Undercity fight with Piltover, when many of their citizens have expressed confidence in their ability to fight by their own terms. Even if they turned out to be outmatched, I doubt there wouldn't be a good amount of Zaunites who would have loved to see Piltover ploughed through. Afterall, they were creating monsters like Warwick, whom not even the Noxians could match.
I honestly think the writers were not treating the different relationships fairly. As much as people paise to show for queer rep, the only overtly queer relationship is a toxic one that got a steamy sex scene as a relationship climax (no pun intended), one het ship is a tragedy the a wholesome center, Another het ship wasn't very romantic, but was still a respectful and mature relationship even they turned out not to be not the best fit. And when they breakup, they just go their separate ways, it doesn't consume the character (cough Caitvi) and the ship everyone and their mom was so certain was gay, and the character everyone was so certain was Bi-- it was all a really strong brotherly love... and then they both die. The only families we see are het families. Even for background characters. I'm just saying that queer and het rep was not given the same respect and it actively hurt the story by derailing multiple plotlines and having a very poorly placed sex scene between lesbians.
The Noxians being the story's climax, only to be a red herring to another unrelated climax (The Glorious evolution) not only undercut Ambessea's tactical wisdom and credibility as a wise leader, but completely plowed over the central building conflict which was Piltover and its Undercity, the development and growth of Zaun, the derailment of Hextech's development due to political corruption and violent mindsets.
Victor wanted to help the undercity with hextech, and yet his arc ended with a self-love declaration. Like it was great that he was able to accept himself, but what about his dream to use hextech to protect and heal people from preventable ailments? That entire aspect of his motivation was just dropped. He turned hundreds into lifeless robot husks, and then just died, and that apparently got the thumbs up from Magical Mage Victor.
Like, it felt like it went from a story to a collection of moments when it came to resolving all of these story bits. The smoothest story endings are Ekko and Jynx's. Everyone else felt like a race to match their videogame counter parts. And I think that's the problem:
They started prioritizing alignment with the game instead of respecting the story they set up. It's not unlike how Voltron: LD tripped its own bike.
Like, I've been actively avoiding negative/criticizing content to see if it helps with how I enjoy media. But .... I've found that the last three things I've watched have been really unsatisfying despite genuinely looking forward to seeing them, and it irritates me to no end.
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