#Betty Ross Banner

[elgaberino-mcoc]

Updating Betty Ross Banner's entry on the Wishlist a little bit.

[mcusoulmateau]

New fic! no rules in breakable heaven is an examination of Betty Ross Banner and what it means to be soulmates with Bruce Banner and/or the Hulk.

[linuxbian]

Im being normal about this i swear

[lethargicmarigold]

despite everything, it’s still you

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i love drawing betty so much i just want her to be happy 😭😭‼️‼️

[vertigoartgore]

2001's Incredible Hulk Vol.2 #24 (LGY : #498) cover by John Romita Jr. & Klaus Janson.

[sufficeth]

immortal hulk as text posts 4!

previously: ih as text posts 1 2 3

the second to last one is a fun choose-your-own-adventure where you can pick whose blood is on whose hands

[jesterjabbering]

little self-indulgent the incredible hulk animation :-)

[yeahsoapy]

Bruce Banners and some Betty Rossesssss !!! Original designs of them I suppose. 60’s weird and off putting science lesbians if you even care.

Full Betty page

[gunsandspaceships]

MCU Timeline: The Incredible Hulk

This timeline is based on dates from the movie, its deleted scenes, calculations and logic, and not on Fury's Big Week (see the reason here). I must admit that compared to the other movies I've covered, this one gave me a bit of a headache.

~1946 - Thaddeus E. Ross is born.

December 18, 1969 - Robert Bruce Banner is born.

~1970 - Emil Blonsky is born.

~1973 - Ross returns from Vietnam at the age of 27.

March 5, 2004, 2:30 pm - experiment by Dr. Banner and Dr. Betty Ross turns Bruce into the Hulk. He kills two scientists, a military officer, and injures General Ross and his daughter.

In the newspaper we can see part of the date "06". The most logical option would be "2006", but this contradicts other dates, plus Marvel often blurs or skips years in their newspapers. The next option is - day. We can't see the month, but there is another paper connected to it that says "March 07". So I assume the original incident happened on March 5 (the day before this newspaper was published).

~March 6 or 7, 2004 at 2:50 pm - Bruce visits Betty in the hospital. General Ross confronts him. Bruce runs away. Ross begins his hunting campaign.

April 18, 2004 - Banner is spotted by a surveillance camera.

This is a US surveillance camera (date format), meaning it happened while Bruce was hiding inside the country (thus shortly after the original incident).

2004-2006 - Banner spotted in Idaho. Hulk kills a state trooper.

Here I would guess that the suicide attempt in Alaska from the deleted alternate opening scene took place in the winter of 2004-2005 or 2005-2006. And it wasn't the suicide attempt Banner was talking about in The Avengers, because he didn't put a bullet in his mouth in the deleted scene. Instead, he aimed at the ice so it would break and drag him out to the sea, I guess. So officially he's attempted suicide at least twice, and the bullet-in-mouth was before that ice-cold-one (it doesn't make sense to put so much effort into attempting suicide if you haven't tried all the easier options. And I'm sure he tried them).

February 7, 2006 - Banner attempted contact with Betty Ross.

May 27-28, 2006 - Bruce/Hulk spotted in Canada. Hulk (possibly) kills two Canadian hunters.

September 4, 2006 - Hulk out with house demolition. Probably still in Canada.

Not sure why "Notification: MOSSAD": this doesn’t look like Israel at all. But perhaps after this incident Bruce flew from Canada to Israel, and then from there went to Europe.

October 21, 2006 - "last seen fleeing".

This "No Sightings For 5 Months" contradicts October 21, 2006, because there were events a month before and after that date. And that's okay, because it doesn't actually mean that that line has to have any connection to that specific date. It just means that Ross lost him for 5 months during his hunt, and it's just part of a larger report, most of which we don't see.

November-December 2006 (snow) - Hulk smashes trucks in Europe (European license plate).

January 22, 2007 - Hulk out in Samara, Russia.

2007-2008 - Bruce in a Tibetan monastery.

March 2009 - Bruce is hired to work at the Antonio Carlos soda bottling plant in Rio (Rocinha favela), Brazil.

So his path most likely looked like this: US (Virginia > Idaho) > crossed US/Canada border > Alaska > back to Canada > Israel > Central Europe > Russia > China (Tibet) > Japan > South America (Paraguay > Brazil).

5 years after initial incident (2004-2009):

~August 2, 2009, 158 days after the last incident:

Banner cuts his finger at the plant and a bottle of soda containing his blood is shipped to the US.

Here on the sticker we see "19 APR". At this quality I can't really see what that date means, but I'm guessing it's a bottling or shipping date. So in the movie it must be April 19th, right? But if we use that date, other dates won't work (especially the last scenes in Canada). Instead, I'll use secondary evidence like the weather and college students later in the movie (doesn't look like summer, does it?) to determine an approximate date, and ignore "19 APR".

Note: This weather forecast matches August 2009 in Rio, but not April.

He tries the mysterious flower on his blood cells, but it's just another failed attempt to cure himself of the Hulk. He sends a sample of his blood to Dr. Samuel Sterns.

~30 days later - Stan Lee in Wisconsin drinks the bottle with Banner's blood.

Shortly after, ~September 2, 8:10 pm - General Ross learns of this and sends his men to search for Banner.

~September 3 (190 days without incident):

Ross has assembled a special forces team to capture Bruce, led by Emil Blonsky. They are sent to Brazil immediately.

Same day in Brazil - Sterns informs Bruce that he has succeeded in reducing the gamma radiation levels in Banner's blood sample.

~September 4, early morning - Ross' team tries to catch Bruce. He hulks out and escapes.

~September 8:

Morning - Bruce returns to himself in Guatemala, thousands of miles from Rio.

Why ~4 days later and not 1: Hulk's running speed in the MCU is about 100 km/h. The distance between Rio and Guatemala that he had to run is ~7 thousand km. I doubt he ran at the same speed the whole distance, so that gives us at least 3-4 days.

(Probably) same day, evening - Bruce in Chiapas, Mexico.

~September 24:

10:40 am - Bruce arrives at Culver University but can't get inside.

Note: there are too many students for summer, and some are wearing sweaters and jackets. All this tells us that it is most likely September.

Night - he visits his old friend Stan.

~September 25 (Friday):

Bruce gains access to the university database, but finds that all of his data has disappeared.

Bruce and Betty meet. She hides him at her house (or rather at her boyfriend's house, according to deleted scenes) and gives him the data she saved.

Betty mentions that it's Friday, and in this movie the days of the week match our universe, unlike Iron Man 1 where they don't. I'll make another post explaining why there's such a difference between the movies, rather than just calling it a mistake.

Blonsky gets an injection of super soldier serum.

~September 26 - General Ross attacks Bruce at Culver University. Bruce hulks out, badly injures Blonsky, saves Betty and runs away with her. They spend the night in a cave.

Note that some trees in the scene are already changing colors to yellow and red, which usually starts in mid-September.

~September 27 - Hulk in. Betty takes Bruce to a motel. Blonsky is healed of all his injuries.

~September 28:

Bruce sends the data to Sterns. He and Betty drive to NYC. Blonsky gets a second injection.

Here we can see "06.12.08", but: 1) it contradicts other dates; 2) the time +0004 does not match the time Bruce sent the message (it was daytime, not 00:04); 3) there is another message with "06.00.08". I conclude that this is not even a date, or not a date we can trust.

Night - Sterns uses his antidote on Banner, which temporarily suppresses the Hulk.

General Ross tranquilizes Bruce and takes him into custody. Blonsky forces Sterns to inject him with Banner's blood, and Blonsky becomes the Abomination. He hits Sterns, and a drop of Banner's blood falls into Sterns' head wound.

The Abomination attacks Harlem. Bruce hulks out and fights him. He defeats Blonsky and runs away.

~October 29 (31 days later) - Bruce in Bella Coola, BC, Canada. He learns to control the Hulk and hulks out on purpose in his cabin.

This is not earlier than October. Closer to November. Not summer at all. The warm clothes people are wearing in the last scenes also confirm this.

Note: the "more than a year without an incident" from The Avengers doesn't really tell us anything about the year of this movie, because Bruce could have had an incident at any time after that. Or a whole bunch of incidents.

Note: comic book The Incredible Hulk: The Big Picture is not compatible with the movie, despite being released in the same box in 2008. Why we can say this: 1) the date of the first incident in the book is April 16, 2005. The movie contains evidence of Ross's hunt from April 2004. 2) The scenes of Bruce and Ross's first confrontation are different. In the movie, it takes place in the hospital; in the book, it takes place in the destroyed lab, where shirtless Banner stayed for three days. 3) In the book Blonsky had already encountered Hulk before the chase in Rio. He didn't see him, but he interrogated a boy who did. In the movie, Blonsky had never heard of the Hulk before.

Iron Man (2008) Timeline

Iron Man 2 (2010) Timeline

Thor (2011) Timeline

Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) Timeline

The Avengers (2012) Timeline

[heckcareoxytwit]

The wedding misadventures of Rick Jones and Marlo Chandler

As the wedding is about to begin, Hulk and Captain America are helping a very nervous Rick Jones into his tuxedo. While in another room, Marlo is being helped into her dress by Betty Ross and some other women. As she looks into the mirror, Marlo is frightened by the brief appearance of Mephisto reflected back at her. Before the ceremony, there were some surprising appearances such as Northstar who happens to be dating Hector (Hulk's friend from the Pantheon) as well as Rahne Sinclair, Guido Carosella and the unmasked version of ROM Space Knight.

As the wedding ceremony begins, the priest who looks like Peter David reads the book to the bride and groom when they are interrupted by the arrival of Drax the Destroyer. Everyone is surprised when Drax presents an invitation, even though he wasn't mailed one. Nonetheless, they have Drax sit next to Adam Warlock. Next, the wedding is interrupted by the supervillains - Wizard, Absorbing Man, Mister Hyde and the Living Laser. However, they have not come not as wedding crashers, but as attendees, as they too have invitations. In reality, the invitations got mixed up so they were given to the wrong people. The Hulk is about to start a fight with them anyway, however, Doc Samson convinces him to stand down. Rick Jones then agrees to allow the villains to stay for the ceremony. Things get even worse when Kree and Skrull ships arrive with more attendees. The special occasion does little to soften the relations between the two races. When one of the Kree tries to start a fight with Talos the Tamed, the Silver Surfer steps in to prevent the situation from escalating further.

Just before the ceremony is over, it is interrupted by a final surprise guest, Mephisto, who has come to claim Marlo's soul. However, he faces opposition from both the Silver Surfer and the Hulk. The Hulk resolves to handle the situation himself, and seeing a bright light in the sky, he admits his belief in the possibility of a higher power. This apparently gives the Hulk the strength to beat Mephisto back, forcing him into retreat. However, Mephisto gloats how this "defeat" is part of a much larger scheme to damn the Hulk. The wedding is quickly completed and Rick and Marlo are made man and wife. During the reception, Marlo is congratulated by the various guests including the surprising appearance of Death of the Endless, who has come to give Marlo a gift. Once Marlo accepts it, Death quickly leaves. Marlo isn't sure who the woman was, but she and Rick open the box and find a beautiful hairbrush inside.

Incredible Hulk #418, 1994

[tomoleary]

Mike Deodato Jr. - Incredible Hulk #62 (2004) Betty Ross Banner and Nadia Blonsky

Source, source

[catboykilljoy97]

this is a tiny detail but I love it. It's not only the moment when Betty fully sees that it's Bruce in there (how many times do you think she's seen him do that exact same sigh trying to solve some tricky problem at the lab?), but it's also just funny. Like yeah buddy you've had a long day. Got shot at, engulfed in a fireball, and on top of everything else now it's raining and you bumped your head. He's ready to be done with this shit.

[marvelousmrm]

Incredible Hulk #268 (Mantlo/Buscema, Feb 1982). Betty stands by her man as he contemplates his mortality.

[crimsonscloud]

EDWARD NORTON and LIV TYLER

as Bruce Banner and Betty Ross in THE INCREDIBLE HULK (2008)

[justdealingwithsomeissues]

That is a funny nod to the sliding time scale there... also some first hints that the rest of the Avengers might be avoiding Rick...