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Youthful idealism

It's a message of sorts for teenagers and twenty-somethings who find it acceptable to harm others under the guise of social justice or any other cause.

While adults with these symptoms usually have something wrong with their mental state, in your case it's called youthful idealism. This happens because the part of your brain responsible for decisions and analysis (the prefrontal cortex) is still forming. Everyone goes through this. It will pass with age, experience and knowledge. What won't go away are the harmful words and actions you left behind.

Unfortunately, no one can help you form this part of the brain faster, so you certainly won’t listen or believe me. But when I went through this stage, I was able to limit myself to minimal damage, almost never hated or threatened anyone, and educated myself. Maybe you can do it too.

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Review of Fury's Big Week tie-in. Part 1

This is a list of all the significant mistakes made in these 8 comics that Marvel Studios considers canon.

Chapter 1:

The Crash of the Valkyrie - 1943

Right from the doorstep we are met with complete nonsense. This tie-in states that Steve Rogers went missing in the Arctic in 1943, which contradicts literally everything: every movie that mentions it, every official timeline and the guidebook, and most importantly, logic.

"Over the Arctic Circle", "Greenland"

The fight scene depicted in the chapter where Rogers sends one of the Hydra soldiers on a free flight along with one of the bomb-planes and they crash in Greenland, in the movie takes place within the first few minutes of the Valkyrie's flight.

And I will remind you and Marvel Studios that the bomber took off from the Alps, which are located in the middle of Europe (even closer to the south).

Here's a map for clarity:

Although Valkyrie is fantastically fast, it took her 10 minutes of screen time to reach the shores of Greenland. And that guy from Hydra could not have landed on it, but would have ended up not far from the starting position (that is, still in Europe), since he was thrown out after just a minute of flight according to screen time.

"Very close," Fury. Just cross the entire ocean and you'll find it.

Fury and Coulson expect Rogers to be alive

These comics make it clear that Fury and Coulson are actively searching for Steve Rogers in Greenland and even EXPECTING to find him alive. And while the World Security Council doesn't care, they also speak of him as a man who somehow survived and can(not) be useful.

In the movie, he was accidentally found by oil workers. Regular agents were sent there. No one initially suspected they found the Valkyrie, and no one expected to find him, much less find him alive.

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Guardians of the Galaxy v2 (2017) / Avengers: Endgame (2019)

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Review of Official MCU Timelines: Phase One

Review of The Old Official Timeline

Review of The MCU Guidebook Timeline

Review of The New Official Timeline Part 1

Review of The New Official Timeline Part 2

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Hydra Methods

Lately I've been seeing a lot of suspiciously similar accounts with Bucky Barnes in their name posting anti-Tony posts. And I thought -Bucky would be very upset and embarrassed by this behavior of some of his so-called "fans". I'm not even talking about how low and immoral their behavior is. That should be obvious.

What they do: they try to denigrate a good man, the ultimate hero, by feeding others misinformation about him and "zeroing" him out, erasing all the good he did from the fandom's memory. Trying to spread hatred and influence the fandom with dirty methods. I would like to remind you that Hydra did the same with Bucky.

Draw your own conclusions.

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Review of Official MCU Timelines: The New Official Timeline (Phase One). Part 2

My (unofficial) but logical (the right one) detailed timeline of the Phase One.

Review of The Old Official Timeline

Review of The MCU Guidebook timeline

Review of The New Official Timeline Part 1

Reminder:

Correct dates are highlighted in blue, questionable or too vague - in orange, and incorrect ones - in red.

First comes the date from the new timeline and then the comparison with date/s from other sources.

IM2:

📅 Spring 2010 (p.77) vs May 11, 2010 (my timeline) - Stark Expo Opening;

📅 Spring 2010 (p.77) vs May 12, 2010, 9:00 am - 3:30 pm (my timeline) - The Senate Armed Services Committee hearings;

📅 Spring 2010 (p.77) vs May 13, 2010 (my timeline) - Tony appoints Pepper as CEO of SI;

📅 Spring 2010 (p.79) vs May 25, 2010 (my timeline) - Hammer hires Vanko;

📅 Spring 2010 (p.79) vs May 29, 2010 (my timeline) - Tony's birthday;

📅 Spring 2010 (p.79) vs May 30, 2010 (my timeline) - Tony receives Howard's chest of documents about the new element from Fury; Hammer turns the stolen Mark II into War Machine;

📅 Spring 2010 (p.81) vs May 30 - June 1, 2010 (my timeline) - Tony finds Howard's message and creates the new element;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.81) vs June 1, 2010 (my timeline) - The Battle at Stark Expo;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.81) vs Mid June, 2010 (my timeline) - Senator Stern awards Tony and Rhodey with medals;

The Incredible Hulk:

❌ Spring 2010 (p.77) vs ~August 2, 2009 (my timeline) - A drop of Bruce Banner's blood ends up in a soda bottle, later revealing his location to General Ross:

People at Marvel try to stretch events to fit Fury's Big Week, but they can't succeed because the movie contradicts it. See The Incredible Hulk Timeline on why it cannot be spring and the year is 2009, not 2010.

❌ Spring 2010 (p.78) vs ~September 4, 2009 (my timeline) - Chase in Rio;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.82, 330) vs ~September 24-25, 2009 (my timeline) - Bruce arrives at Culver University and reunites with Betty Ross;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.83) vs ~September 25, 2009 (my timeline) - Emil Blonsky becomes a super soldier;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.86) vs ~September 26, 2009 (my timeline) - Bruce is attacked at Culver University; he hulks out and escapes with Betty; Blonsky is badly injured;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.87) vs ~September 27, 2009 (my timeline) - Bruce recovers from Hulk with Betty's help; Blonsky's body is completely healed;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.87-88, 90, 292, 330) vs ~September 28, 2009 (my timeline) - Bruce and Betty meet Dr. Sterns; Blonsky becomes the Abomination; Hulk fights him;

❌ Summer 2010 (p.88) vs October-November, 2009 (my timeline) - Bruce is hiding in British Columbia, Canada.

Thor:

❌ 2010 (p.63, 84, 104, 120, 182, 330) vs 2011 (MCU Guidebook, my timeline) - Events of Thor:

See my Thor Timeline for details, and also Review of the MCU Guidebook (the last date).

❌ Spring 2010 (p.79-80) vs ~November 20, 2011 (my timeline) - Thor's canceled coronation; he starts a war with Frost Giants and ends up banished to Midgard; Odin falls into Odinsleep;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.82, 162) vs ~November 21, 2011 (my timeline) - Coulson finds Mjolnir; Thor storms the S.H.I.E.L.D. base around Mjolnir, is apprehended, and then released with the help of Selvig;

❌ Spring 2010 (p.82-83, 86) vs ~November 22, 2011 (my timeline) - The Battle with the Destroyer and Loki; Thor returns to Asgard and destroys the Bifrost to save Jotunheim; Loki falls into a portal leading to Thanos' territory.

The Avengers:

❌ 2010-2012 (p.92) vs 2011-2012 (my timeline) - Loki and Thanos plan to invade Earth; Selvig works on Project PEGASUS:

The banner of the exhibition in Stuttgart allows us to determine the exact dates of the events:

📅 Spring 2012 (p.92) vs May 1, 2012 (my timeline) - Loki comes to Earth; Fury calls Avengers Assemble;

📅 Spring 2012 (p.93) vs May 2, 2012 (my timeline) - Natasha recruits Bruce, Fury recruits Rogers, Coulson - Tony;

📅 Spring 2012 (p.93) vs May 3, 2012 (my timeline) - After a brief fight in Stuttgart and a longer one in the woods, Tony, Steve, Thor and Natasha take Loki into custody on the Helicarrier;

📅 Spring 2012 (p.94-96) vs May 4, 2012 (my timeline) - The incident on the Helicarrier; Coulson dies; The Battle of New York;

📅 Spring 2012 (p.97) vs May 9-16, 2012 (my timeline) - "Item 47" events;

📅 Spring 2012 (p.97) vs Second half of May, 2012 (my timeline) - Department of Damage Control is formed; Adrian Toomes starts his alien weapons smuggling business.

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so i went on a hyperfocus deep dive awhile back about the speed of the iron man suits bc i kept seeing things in fics like “be there in 20 minutes” just to get across nyc and it was bugging me bc i felt like that didn’t make any sense lol so. for your fanfic needs (or just bc you wanna know):

mach 1, which is the speed of sound, is approximately 740mph

tony’s suits can go, at the very least, mach 5 at top speed (marvel wiki says the suit in endgame goes up to mach 10 but idk how accurate that is). mach 5 is 3800mph.

to give you a bit of perspective, at mach 5, tony could fly from los angeles to new york city in less than an hour. he could fly from new york city to london in less than an hour.

also, in IM1 tony flies from los angeles to afghanistan, attacks the ten rings and flies home, with interruptions from the air force, all in a few hours. and he was flying just as fast as the fighter jets. in the mark 3 suit.

even if the city has airspeed regulations and tony can’t go 700mph through the city from manhattan to queens (which was the example i used in my math when i was looking it all up), it still would not take him 20 minutes to get there.

it’s 13 miles from manhattan to queens, at 700mph, it would take 1.8 minutes.

if tony flies a more reasonable 100mph, it would take him roughly 7 minutes.

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Review of Official MCU Timelines: The New Official Timeline (Phase One). Part 1

My (unofficial) but logical (the right one) detailed timeline of the Phase One.

Review of The Old Official Timeline

Review of The MCU Guidebook Timeline

This is a review of Phase One dates from The Marvel Cinematic Universe: An Official Timeline, which is the newest and most complete timeline from Marvel Studios. We'll see if it's actually good or still not good enough. The book can also be used as a weapon because it's huge and heavy.

I won't copy-paste the entire timeline from the book here, but will focus only on the incorrect or questionable dates, and add details when the official timeline only gives a year/season/month. If I don't mention an event/date from Phase One here, it means the book has it set correctly.

Note: Fury's Big Week events and dates will be covered in a separate post.

Correct dates are highlighted in blue, questionable or too vague - in orange, and incorrect ones - in red.

First comes the date from the new timeline and then the comparison with date/s from other sources.

❔ Unknown (p.25) vs 600 years BIM (old timeline) - Odin hid the Tesseract on Earth:

The date of this event only appears in the old timeline - 600 BIM, which is 1408 AD. The new timeline mentions that it happened after the battle with the Frost Giants, but also says that it is unknown when exactly it happened.

📅 June 1943 (p.33) vs June 15, 1943 (my timeline) - Candidate Rogers met Agent Carter; 📅 June 1943 (p.33) vs June 15-June 21, 1943 (my timeline) - training at Camp Lehigh:

I added some details because they are easy to identify from the movie.

❌ Nov 3 - 10, 1943 (p.34, 329) vs Nov 3-4, 1943 (the guidebook) or Nov 3-5, 1943 (my timeline) - Cap brings the freed prisoners of war back:

We have options here. Unfortunately, the people at Marvel forgot how to count and think in their new timeline, because the 35 miles the soldiers had to walk would take about 12 hours. What exactly were they doing for the whole week?

📅 Mid-1940s (p.35, 256, 329) vs December 1944 - January 1945 (my timeline) - Barnes fell from the train; Zola is captured:

The date is very vague. In the movie we can pinpoint it with more precision: 1) It happened a couple of days before the Valkyrie flight; 2) There was snow; 3) It was after November 1943 and before March 1945; 4) It was in 1944 and 1945 at the same time. Is this a mistake? Or it could be December 31, 1944 - January 1, 1945.

❔ March 1945 (p.35, 329) vs January 1945 (my timeline) - The Crash of the Valkyrie:

It could be any month in early 1945. But only January can save the guys who wrote "1944" and "1945" for the train mission in the same movie. Remember, those events happened a couple of days apart.

P.S. This book contains absolutely idiotic notes from Miss Minutes, which Marvel only created more problems for themselves. It was so easy to fix, but instead they took this approach:

📅 1940s (p.38) vs June 23, 1945 (my timeline) - the exact date on this picture:

📅 1946 (p.38) vs March 15, 1946 (my timeline) - The Zodiac Mission (Agent Carter one-shot):

❌ Another "f*ck up of TVA" (p.53) - Miss Minutes tells us that the IM1 presentation has an error with Tony's age when he became CEO of SI. But as I explained in my MCU Guidebook review, there is no mistake: the movie says "at age 21", not "when he turned 21". Bots are all the same, I guess.

❌ 2011 (p.56, 89, 121, 250, 330) vs Early 2012 (my timeline) - Steve Rogers is found in the Arctic; April 2012 (my timeline) - Rogers wakes up after 67 years in ice:

Scenes at the end of CA:TFA and deleted scenes from The Avengers give us some clues as to how much time has passed between his first day in the 21st century and the events of The Avengers (May 2012) - no more than a few weeks. The weather in New York on the day of his awakening also suggests it is most likely April.

The year he was found depends on how long it took SHIELD to unfreeze him. It could have been late 2011, but I doubt they needed that long.

📅 Mid-2000s (p.68, 90, 330) vs March 5, 2004, 2:30 pm (my timeline) - The Creation of the Hulk:

In the movie, there is a photo from April 2004, as well as a newspaper and the earliest documents from March 6-7. We can also see a clock on the wall in the lab scene, so we can determine the date and time of the incident.

📅 Early 2008 (p.70, 330) vs End of January/Beginning of February, 2008 (my timeline) - Tony is kidnapped by The Ten Rings:

Tony spent 3 months in captivity. May 2nd minus 3 months equal a more precise date.

📅 Spring 2008 (p.71-73, 330) vs April 30 - May 25, 2008 (my timeline) - Tony's escape and the events of IM1 after Tony's return from Afghanistan:

Again, we can figure out months and even dates based on the movie itself. See my IM1 Part 3 timeline for details.

📅 Spring 2008 (p.71) vs May 2, 2008 (my timeline) - Tony returns from Afghanistan and shuts down weapon manufacturing at SI;

📅 Spring 2008 (p.72) vs May 5-15, 2008 (my timeline) - development of Mark II;

📅 Spring 2008 (p.72) vs May 18, 2008 (my timeline) - Battle in Gulmira;

📅 Spring 2008 (p.73) vs May 19, 2008 (my timeline) - Stane takes Mark I, kills The Ten Rings, and orders SI engineers to begin work on Iron Monger;

📅 Spring 2008 (p.73) vs May 24, 2008 (my timeline) - Battle with Iron Monger;

📅 Spring 2008 (p.73) vs May 25, 2008 (my timeline) - "I am Iron Man" press conference;

❌ Spring 2008 (p.76) vs December 2008 (my timeline) - death of Anton Vanko; Ivan begins work on his arc reactor:

As I said in the IM2 Timeline, it can't be spring (or the same time as the "I Am Iron Man" press conference) for many reasons.

Ivan was released from prison sometime in December 2008, and he still looks like he just got out. Plus, Moscow looks like it's December, not May.

📅 Spring 2010 (p.77, 330) vs May 11 - Mid-June, 2010 (my timeline) - Events of IM2:

One of the events is Tony's birthday, so we can narrow it down considerably using the Stark Expo countdown on Tony's TV in the lab.

Notice that this timeline FINALLY acknowledges that it has been two years since IM1, not six months.

❌ May 5, 2010 (p.78) vs May 23, 2009 (my timeline) - The Grand Prix Assault:

While the real Monaco Grand Prix Historique does take place in early May, in the movie it could not have taken place on May 5th, based on other dates, including Tony's birthday.

Review of The New Official Timeline Part 2

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Sleight of hand and no fraud

Tony:

Also Tony:

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Review of Official MCU Timelines: Marvel Cinematic Universe Guidebook

My (unofficial) but logical (the right one) detailed timeline of the Phase One

Review of The Old Official Timeline

This is the review of Phase One dates from Marvel Cinematic Universe Guidebook: The Avengers Initiative.

Note: Fury's Big Week events and dates will be covered in a separate post.

Correct dates are highlighted in blue, and incorrect ones - in red.

Iron Man:

Pages: 7, 18, 24.

✔️ The guidebook starts with contradicting the time periods from the old timeline: the first timeline of the MCU told us that 6 months passed between Tony escaping the cave and "I am Iron Man". The guidebook confirms my conclusion that these events took place within less than a month (May 2 - May 25, 2008), and that "days" rather than weeks or months passed between the Charity Ball and the day Tony fought Stane.

Pages: 10, 22, 27, 66.

❌ We know that Tony was born on May 29, 1970. When his parents died, he was already 21 years old. And until May 29, 1992, he was still 21. The movie doesn't say he became CEO of SI when he turned 21. It says "at 21," so unlike the book, it's not a mistake. Tony had a few months between his parents' death and his 22nd birthday to earn two PhDs. During those months, Stane served as the company's interim CEO. Funnily enough, this stupid mistake will haunt the new official timeline book.

Page 12.

❌ That's not entirely wrong, since it says "nearly", but I did it better. They couldn't work on the armor for three months simply because Tony wasn't able to do it for most of that time. He had to spend two months recovering from his injuries and surgeries, one week creating the reactor and the plans for the armor, and only about three weeks actually building the armor.

Page 19.

✔️ This confirms my conclusion that the reactor change did not occur on Tony's first day home, or even the next day. Tony came home on May 2 and Pepper changed the reactor on May 4.

The Incredible Hulk:

Page 38.

❌ As I determined in The Incredible Hulk timeline, Hulk couldn't have run from Rio to Guatemala in one day. It would take him 3-4 days to get there. Add those days as Hulk to the 17 "without incident" days. So it can't be the same 17 days, but rather 21.

Iron Man 2:

Page 53.

❌ This is what "not thinking" looks like. No, Marvel, there are more than 6 months between May 2008 and May 2010.

Page 57.

❌ It couldn't have been "the next day" because the day after Tony's birthday party was spent with Fury and Howard's treasure chest. That was May 31st (2 days after the party).

P.S. Someday I will look at the other statements (non-date related) in this book, because some of them are truly ridiculous.

Page 58.

✔️ This confirms my timeline, which states that the events of IM2 take place over several weeks, not just one.

Captain America: The First Avenger:

Page 101.

❌ "A year later", Marvel?! From June 14 to November 3, 1943 – only 4.5 months!

Page 108.

✔️ ❌ It's a tough question how long it's been since Rogers went behind the lines to rescue the 107th prisoners. Two options: one day (at least 12 hours of marching) or two days. Clues from the movie fit each of these.

Page 115.

❌ MCU movies are inconsistent on what year this train mission took place. The same movie, CA:TWS, says it was both 1944 and 1945. Tie-in comics Fury's Big Week, say it was no later than 1943 (another reason for me not to take it seriously). This book says March 1945. What we get is that all sources contradict each other. Given the original CA:TFA movie, and both 1944/1945, I can fix this error by saying it was December 31, 1944 - January 1, 1945. Everybody's happy.

Pages 124-125.

❌ A simple typo or the writer forgot the year of the Exposition, which is written on the previous page. It was 1943.

Page 127.

❌ Seriously, Mr. Writer? The guy looks like he's been a drill sergeant for 17 years? It's not even possible to be one that long. Plus he still wears Grade 4 Sergeant insignia, which means he's never been promoted in his "17 years" as a drill sergeant. He is either very bad at his job, which raises another question - why is he still there, or the statement makes no sense. Mr O'Sullivan, or whoever wrote this, Sergeant Duffy's phrase only means that "Nobody's got that flag in 17 years" in general, and does not mean that he was a drill sergeant there all that time!

Why I point this out: This is a good example of contractors taking something from the source material (movie) without using logic. Always use logic, please.

Thor - Thor: The Dark World:

Page 181.

✔️Further confirmation that it's only been two years since the events of the first Thor movie, not three as Fury's Big Week tells us: Thor (November 2011), The Avengers (May 2012), Thor: The Dark World (Fall 2013).

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Since I just now remembered the scene from Ragnarok with "we were eight at the time" - updated the part of the post about Thor's age.

How old are Loki and Thor in the MCU

The poll shows that only 19% of fans know how old Thor and Loki are in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

When Odin took Loki from Jotunheim in 965 AD, he was an infant. It is unknown how long Asgardians and Jotuns remain infants, but it cannot be more than a few Midgard years.

It is also unlikely that an abandoned newborn Loki would have been able to survive on his own for long, so he was most likely born in the same year.

As for Thor, he is the same age as Loki, only slightly older (within a year).

Marvel Cinematic Universe Guidebook: The Avengers Initiative (p.92).

Conclusion: at the time of the events of The Avengers (2012), both brothers were approximately 1047 years old. If we dare to be more precise, Loki would be 1047, and Thor would be somewhere around 1047 or 1048.

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How old are Loki and Thor in the MCU

The poll shows that only 19% of fans know how old Thor and Loki are in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

When Odin took Loki from Jotunheim in 965 AD, he was an infant. It is unknown how long Asgardians and Jotuns remain infants, but it cannot be more than a few Midgard years.

It is also unlikely that an abandoned newborn Loki would have been able to survive on his own for long, so he was most likely born in the same year.

As for Thor, he is the same age as Loki, only slightly older (within a year).

Marvel Cinematic Universe Guidebook: The Avengers Initiative (p.92).

Conclusion: at the time of the events of The Avengers (2012), both brothers were approximately 1047 years old. If we dare to be more precise, Loki would be 1047, and Thor would be somewhere around 1047 or 1048.

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This anti Tony piece of crap reblogged this post and then blocked me while I was writing my response. Whether it was an act of cowardice or what, who knows. But I will not let this go unanswered.

Over and over, over and over. A vicious circle. My dear sea criminal, all your crap has long been addressed in reposts of this same post (for another such "smart" user).

Here is my advice for those who want to come to me again with the same "arguments": Google what blackmail is; Re-watch the movie; Think again; If you didn't get it - read this post.

And I see that I will have to repeat my answer for the previous user:

"(Also also, Peter probably would be against the Accords if he actually read them since clearly he never signed them and still continues to vigilante so…)"

- Dear, the situation wasn't even about the Accords, but about the arrest of a terrorist suspect and the guy who helped him escape, because they are old friends. There were two sides: law enforcement and fugitives. And there's no talk of Peter being for or against the Accords. This isn't the Registration Act from the comics.

And I'll also add this in case it wasn't clear:

If you're a law enforcement officer pursuing a suspect, you don't need to ask people whether they're for or against laws. WTF.

I'm blocking this dumbass back, btw. I had enough.

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full offense, but does it ever hit you in the god damn gut that tony stark, protector, knight in shining armor tony stark –

mister “i saw young americans killed by the very weapons i created to defend them and protect them,” mister “i’m trying to protect the people i put in harm’s way,” mister “i hope i can protect the one thing i can’t live without,” mister “i see a suit of armor around the world,”

the guy who answers for his most paternalistic acts (like wanting to keep pepper and wanda locked in a mansion) with “i can’t protect you out there” and “i did it to protect you,”

tony stark, whose gradually worsening mental conditions show in his progressively more backwards, desperate attempts to protect people, tony stark who’s been trying to protect people to the point of harmful consequences,

that tony stark

is the single character

in the entire mcu

who has been accused

– by friends, enemies, and civilians alike

in every movie he’s been in –

of FIGHTING ONLY FOR HIMSELF

SIMILARLY

THIS TONY STARK

tony “i shouldn’t be alive” stark, tony “i’m not the hero type” stark, mister “you deserve better,” “you’re right, i don’t deserve her,” “it’s me, you’ll think of something [to complain about],” “you’re in a relationship with me, everything will never be okay,” “i saw them all dead, felt it, because of me,”

tony stark, who shoots his reflection and views himself as a “monster” and openly resents himself during his speech about charles spencer, THIS TONY STARK

IS THE SINGLE CHARACTER WHO’S CONSISTENTLY PERCEIVED, IN-UNIVERSE AND IN A META LEVEL BY MOST OF THE FANDOM,

AS SOMEONE WHOSE EGO NEEDS TO BE PUT IN CHECK

I AM HONESTLY

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Official confirmation/refutation of Tony's psychological condition

Marvel Cinematic Universe Guidebook: The Avengers Initiative (p.166).

The Marvel Cinematic Universe: An Official Timeline (p.96).

Officially confirmed:

PTSD - TRUE

"Textbook narcissism" - FALSE

"Not a team player" - FALSE