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The Impact of Civil Wars and Betrayals on Iron Man's Body

Or Tony with a stress ball and a violently shaking left arm at the end of Civil War:

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MCU Fandom Wiki Timeline Project

I'm joining the Timeline Project team to help fix the dates within the official timeline. It won't fix all the problems with the official timeline, but we'll see what happens.

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MCU Timeline: Thor: The Dark World

"Before the birth of light" - Darkness. The emergence and reign of the Dark Elves.

~5000 years - life expectancy of Asgardians.

Every 5000 years - the cycle of convergence in the Nine Realms.

~3000 BC (5000 years ago) - previous convergence in the Nine Realms. Malekith creates the Aether from the Reality Stone and attempts to turn the universe back into darkness, but is defeated by Bor, Odin's father. Bor hides the Aether. Malekith escapes with the remnants of his army and goes into hibernation for the next 5000 years.

June 13, 1951 - Erik Selvig is born in Stockholm, Sweden.

Early May 2012 - Odin sentences Loki to life imprisonment in the dungeons of Asgard.

May 2012 - November 13, 2013 - Rebuilding of the Bifrost. Thor brings order to the Nine Realms.

November 13, 2013 (Day in Asgard/Night in the UK) - The Battle of Vanaheim.

November 14, 2013 (Night in Asgard/Day in the UK):

Asgardians celebrate their victory.

~11:30 am - naked Selvig goes on a rampage at Stonehenge. He is arrested.

~1 pm - Jane is at a restaurant on a date with Richard. Darcy takes her to the site of the gravitational anomaly.

~1:30 pm - Jane becomes infected with the Aether.

Malekith awakens.

~6:30 pm - Jane wakes up back on Earth. Thor comes and takes her to Asgard.

November 14, 2013 (Day in Asgard/Night in the UK):

Morning in Asgard - Asgardian healers perform diagnostics on Jane and discover Aether in her body. Odin tells Thor and Jane the story of the relic.

Algrim, a dark elf, is sent to Asgard disguised as a prisoner.

Noon - Thor explains the Convergence to Jane. Jane meets Frigga.

Afternoon - Algrim uses the last Kurse stone of the Dark Elves and becomes the Kursed. He escapes from his cell and starts a prison riot, leaving Loki in his cell.

Malekith attacks Asgard in his spaceship. Harrow, with him on board, crash lands in Odin's palace. Kurse kills Frigga. Enraged, Thor burns half of Malekith's face with lightning, but the Dark Elves manage to escape.

November 15, 2013 (Night in Asgard/Day in the UK):

Frigga's funeral. Loki is informed of her death.

In the UK, Erik Selvig is in custody for psychiatric evaluation.

Malekith heals from his burns.

November 15, 2013 (Day in Asgard/Night in the UK):

Odin detains Jane to guard the Aether from Malekith. Thor argues with Odin about the course of action.

In London, Darcy and Ian watch the news about Selvig on TV.

Evening in Asgard - Thor asks Heimdall for help.

November 16, 2013 (Night in Asgard/Day in the UK):

Thor and Co plan their treason.

Darcy and Ian take Erik from custody.

November 16, 2013 (Day in Asgard/Night in the UK):

Morning - Thor makes a deal with Loki and frees him from the dungeons.

Sif takes Jane out of house arrest.

Afternoon - Thor, Jane and Loki take the Harrow of the Dark Elves and head out of Asgard. Jane collapses from weakness because she refused to eat breakfast.

Thor, Jane and Loki come to Svartalfheim, the realm of the Dark Elves.

November 17, 2013 (Night in Asgard/Day in the UK):

The trio trick Malekith into taking the Aether from Jane. She learns of his plans to turn the universe into dark matter. Thor attempts to destroy the relic, but it proves indestructible. Malekith absorbs the Aether and escapes. Loki kills Kurse, but "dies" from the wound.

~7 pm (London) - Thor and Jane find a cave connected to Earth via the convergence. Richard calls Jane from work. Thor and Jane return to London.

~8 pm - they reunite with Darcy, Erik and Ian in Jane's lab/flat.

November 17, 2013 (Day in Asgard/Night in the UK):

Disguised as an Einherjar guard, Loki returns to Asgard, sends enchanted Odin to Earth (Shady Acres Care Home in NYC), and takes the throne.

Jane, Thor, Erik, Darcy and Ian prepare a plan of action to stop Malekith in Greenwich.

November 18, 2013 (Night is Asgard/Day in the UK):

The convergence.

The Battle of Greenwich.

~November 20, 2013 (Day in Asgard/Night in the UK) - conversation between Thor and Loki as Odin.

10:42 am in London, ~November 21, 2013:

Thor comes back to Jane and stays on Earth.

End of 2013/Early 2014 - Volstagg and Sif bring the Reality Stone to the Collector.

MCU Phase One Timelines Iron Man 3 Timeline

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If you think I'm rude, I am. I am done believing in good humanity after Putin and the widespread approval of the war in Ukraine, after the return of homophobic and transphobic laws, after the election of Trump… Don't expect me to be kind and polite if you do something stupid/cruel/harmful or lying and I know it. This blog isn't about me being cute and fluffy, it's about fact-checking the MCU and pointing out misinformation in the fandom. That's all.

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Everything You Need to Know About the MCU Fandom Wiki

If you thought this wiki was a democracy, you were wrong. This is a theocracy with faith in "official information" which sometimes turns out to be non-existent.

Here's the link to the conversation.

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Don't trust Fandom Wiki Timeline. Just don't

Look at this sh*t:

Did those who wrote this even think about what they were writing? Just for a second? No?

Here's the actual timeline, based on what is shown in the movie, with all the evidence such as weather and the actual time periods needed for certain events to happen.

The only events that could've happened in January 2014 are Happy coming out of a coma (this happened in the last days of December 2013 or the first days of 2014. It didn't have to be a Sunday because that episode of Downtown Abbey was a recording - it's the previous episode of what we saw on December 22nd, not the next one).

There's a small chance that Pepper was cured in January, but it couldn't have been early January. Zero chance. Total bullshit.

Harley's garage couldn't have been remodeled in January because LOOK AT THE SCENE, gosh. He's wearing a short-sleeved shirt and shorts, there's grass, flowers. They're in Tennessee, not Miami, for fox sake. It's May. Taking Junior novels into account makes no sense. They're not canon.

And my absolute "favorite": the surgery on January 3rd. Just a week after the battle with Killian. And the next day, after a complex open-heart surgery, Tony is already on his feet, giving a freshly made necklace of shrapnel to his girlfriend, also recently cured. This kills me. I don't even want to comment on it.

Please, delete this fandom wiki abomination, I beg you.

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The Daily Bugle

Antis:

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Isn't that the "Why we fight"?

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Beware! About @legalandnotease

This "Legal Expert" blog belongs to the same Joanna who recently deactivated her @tragicfantasy-girl account.

She is NOT a legal expert, but has a BA and MA in Medieval History.

Don't hesitate to block her, she is a serial harasser and as you can see has nothing truthful to say.

Also, she has a habit of having multiple accounts at once, so it looks like this @fantasy-lovergirl is her new account too.

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For all who answered "Yes" - a must read. And don't forget the notes.

Something more pseudo-communists on this site need to start understanding is that while the theory may go on and on about killing the rich and creating a classless society, that has never been the case in practice and it never will be.

The revolution in Russia targeted the Tsar, targeted the upper class, killed (though often just put them under house arrest) the rich - sure. But then what happened? It was justified to kill anyone who didn't support the revolution as degeneracy. The Jews are ruining our utopia because they're behind capitalism. The Queers are ruining our utopia because they're destroying the family unit. The ex-serfs are ruining our utopia because they're stuck in the Russian Empire in belief.

When a movement begins with violence, it will always continue in violence. The violence will always be justified, and will always find a new target - because the intention is violence.

Cambodia targeted the Khmer who were 'too western'. Russia targeted the marginalized. China targets religious minority ethnic groups. Among others, just examples.

When Russia's revolution began killing the rich the rich just moved to France and returned later, after millions of poor people died from starvation, militant governmental policies and war. Rich people can afford to survive your rEvOLuTiOn. Poor people can not and will not by the millions.

The real target is NEVER the "Rich" and ALWAYS the people "in the way", who more often than not, are marginalized.

You can NOT be for marginalized communities and continue evangelizing communism. The economy is built on exploitation, whether it's run by the working party (Which lmfao it usually actually isn't, in reality), or the upper class.

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How long Tony lived with shrapnel and arc reactor in his chest

Only 13.9% of the poll participants chose the correct answer.

According to the timeline (and the official MCU timeline agrees with me), Tony received a bunch of shrapnel into his chest and had a reactor implanted in February 2008, and got rid of them sometime in 2014 (most likely late May).

This means that he lived with them for at least 6 years and 4 months. Months may not be exact (there could be more), but 6 years is definitely.

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MCU Timeline: Iron Man 3

+ "All Hail the King" one-shot.

MCU Phase One

The main events take place in December 2013.

October 12, 1964 - Trevor Slattery lands his first role (Liverpool Royal Court Theatre).

October 6, 1968 - James Rupert Rhodes is born.

1986 - Slattery's mother dies while he is working on a rejected CBS pilot in the US.

Before 2000 - Pepper works with Aldrich Killian.

December 31, 1999 - January 1, 2000 - scientific conference in Bern, Switzerland. Tony, Yinsen, Dr. Wu, and Aldrich Killian meet for the first time.

2007 - Birth of Harley Keener's sister. Their father leaves the family.

2008 - Aldrich Killian injects himself with Extremis.

Note: it could also mean "5 years and then a few more years without them", but given the next date, it's unlikely that the time gap between injecting himself and testing others was significant. And I'll remind you that by the time of the test on volunteers, Killian already looked healthy.

June 25, 2009 17:30 - Project Extremis Injections tests Phase 1. The first human death as a result of Extremis explosion.

2011 - The Roxxon Norco scow spilled a million gallons of crude oil off the coast of Pensacola, and President Ellis let the culprits off the hook.

April 2, 2011 - Killian records a video of Trevor as "the Mandarin" somewhere in the Middle East.

2013 (most likely no more than a few months before the main events) - Chad Davis explosion in Rose Hill, Tennessee.

December 15-16, 2013 ~11 pm - 2 am - Tony's first night without sleep. He (most likely) woke up from a nightmare and avoided going to bed from then on.

December 17, 2013 - An Extremis soldier exploded at Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait.

December 18-19, 2013, ~11 pm - 2 am - Tony implants 48 micro-repeaters for Mark 42 into his body and watches the Mandarin's TV broadcast.

Yes, I determined the date by the phase of the moon.

December 19, 2013 - presentation of Iron Patriot to the public.

December 20, 2013 - Tony and Rhodey at Neptune's Net restaurant. Tony experiences his first anxiety attack. He returns home and orders a custom rabbit for Pepper.

December 22, 2013 (Sunday):

4 pm - Killian's appointment with Pepper at SI.

I don't know why SI works on Sundays, guys. It must be illegal.

4:25 pm - Tony calls Happy via Skype, and Happy tells him that Killian is showing Pepper his big brain.

Note: wrong day of the week on the phone screen. It was Sunday, not Tuesday.

~6 pm - Tony and Pepper's "date". They go to bed, but are soon awakened by Tony's nightmare.

Night - Happy follows Savin to the Chinese Theater, where he is injured by another Extremis explosion.

Tony spends the night at Happy's bedside in the hospital.

December 23, 2013 (Monday):

Morning - Tony challenges the Mandarin upon leaving the hospital.

~4 pm - Savin attacks the Malibu mansion.

5-7 pm - Tony arrives in Rose Hill, Tennessee, sends a message to Pepper, and meets Harley Keener.

Pepper stays at the ruins of Tony's mansion. She finds one of Iron Man's helmets with the message from Tony. She and Maya head to a hotel.

8 pm - Tony and Harley go to downtown Rose Hill to investigate the explosion.

~8:30 pm - Savin and Brandt attack Tony. He kills Brandt and knocks out Savin. Tony almost dies sacrificing himself to save EJ (Harley's bully), but Harley saves him.

~11:30 pm - Tony hacks into AIM system.

Killian takes Pepper hostage. His agent captures Rhodey.

December 24, 2013:

Early morning - Tony makes weapons to storm the Mandarin's mansion.

Afternoon - he reaches Miami and storms the mansion. He meets Trevor and learns the truth about the Mandarin, but Savin knocks him out.

Tony wakes up tied to a bed in Maya's lab. Killian kills Maya.

Killian and Savin take the Iron Patriot suit. Tony escapes and reunites with Rhodey and Trevor. They head to Roxxon Norco.

Evening - Savin captures President Ellis. Tony kills Savin and saves the people falling from Air Force One.

Night - the Battle on the Norco.

December 25, 2013 - The Vice President and Trevor are arrested.

Last days of December 2013/First days of January 2014 - Happy comes out of a coma.

Happy still has bright bruises and scratches on his face when he wakes up, meaning it's been less than two weeks since the explosion.

Early 2014 - Tony stabilizes Extremis and removes it from Pepper's system.

May 2014 - Tony, in gratitude, remodels Harley's garage and replaces his sister's broken watch.

Why May: Harley is still in school, but there is green grass everywhere, some flowers, and his clothes hint that it is May.

~Late May 2014 - Tony undergoes surgery to remove the reactor and shrapnel from his chest in China and stays there with Pepper for some time for post-op rehabilitation.

Note: here Tony gifts Pepper with a necklace made of shrapnel from his heart. They are still in China (Shanghai).

Why it was most likely late May: judging by the weather and clothing, it was no earlier than April and no later than September. Since Tony arranged his gift to Harley in May, it's safe to assume that he did it right before such a risky procedure as open heart surgery (especially when doctors told us his chances were slim).

Second half of 2014 - an agent of the Ten Rings takes Trevor Slattery from Seagate Prison and delivers him to the real Mandarin.

Note: Don't forget about the time a trial takes! This will add months between Trevor's arrest and the one-shot events.

Late 2014 - Tony returns to the ruins of his Malibu mansion to throw the reactor into the ocean and pick up the damaged robots.

Note: look at the plants that have grown in the ruins. It would take them about a year, or even more, to grow.

Late 2014 or Early 2015 - Tony tells his story to Bruce, who fell asleep at the very beginning.

Some argue that the events of the movie take place not in 2013, but in 2012. Why it can't be December 2012:

The movie says it's December 2013.

The Official Timeline says it's December 2013.

Logic says it's December 2013.

All the evidence aside, let's think about it for a second. How long would it take to build all these suits? In The Avengers, Tony's newest suit was Mark 7. Between The Avengers and IM3, Tony created 35 suits, and from May 5 to December 18, 2012, there were 228 days. Creating a suit would take at least several days. That is, if that was Tony's main occupation. But it wasn't. He worked on them at night, and during the day he was SI's R&D department, was working on the redesign/rebuild of Avengers Tower, and was also busy dating Pepper. We can't say exactly how many days it would take to create a new Mark, but most likely at least 10 days (nights): 35*10=350 days minimum, which he would need to create them all. In 2012 we are already out of days. So in any case we get 2013, not 2012.

While searching for existing MCU timelines, I also found this attempt at creating a timeline that went horribly wrong because the author forgot about logic and didn't calculate anything correctly. Let's take this for example, "it's 2012 because Maya said the kid is 13." How old is "the kid" if it is December 23, 2012? Well, conception would have occurred on January 1, 2000. Now we need to add 9 months, don't forget about that! We get October 1, 2000. Now add 13 years and we get October 1, 2013. Before that, "the kid" would have been 12 years old, not 13. Case closed.

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Is IM3 "Maya's Sacrifice" deleted scene canon?

This scene shows that Maya did not die immediately after Killian shot her, but was able to transfer data on Extremis to Tony's servers, and was then killed by the explosion.

How do we know that this actually happened in canon?

Look at the corner of the lab where her desk was after this scene in the finished movie:

This is what it looked like before Maya's death:

We can clearly see the damage from the explosion.

And here's the flower at fault:

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The contest results are updated accordingly.

OG6 Avengers' The “Nice Guy”: Who Thanks the Most?

I bet you're thinking it's Steve or Bruce, with Tony in last place. Let's find out.

Here's the total number of "thank yous" each character said/meant (with links to their posts with exact time):

1) Tony – 29

2) Steve – 20

3) Thor – 18

4) Bruce – 12

5) Natasha – 6

6) Clint – 2

As you can see from the overall number - Tony wins with 29 thanks, which already proves that he is not actually rude.

Now let's check the frequency (see rules here) and list them by The Nice Guy Score, starting with the last one:

6th – Natasha

Natasha is in 5th place in total number of thanks - 6. But her screen time is 176 minutes, which is much more than Clint’s.

Given this data that we have: (1000/176)*6=34.1 points or 1 thanks per 29.3 mins.

5th – Clint

Clint has only 2 thanks, but his screen time is significantly less than other Avengers’ – only 50.5 minutes.

His “Nice Guy Score”: (1000/50.5)*2=39.6 points or 1 thanks per 25.25 mins.

4th – Tony

Tony has the most – 29 thanks, but his screen time also exceeds everyone else's.

His “Nice Guy Score”: (1000/357.25)*29=81.2 points or 1 thanks per 12.3 mins.

3rd – Steve

Steve said “thanks” 20 times in 243.25 minutes of screen time.

His “Nice Guy Score”: (1000/243.25)*20=82.2 points or 1 thanks per 12.2 mins.

2nd – Bruce

Bruce said thanks 12 times, but Hulk said 0 (yes, all Alter Egos participate), so...

His “Nice Guy Score”: (1000/141.25)*12=85 points or 1 thanks per 11.8 mins.

And the most “thankful” person on the team is…

1st – Thor

Who said or meant “thank you” 18 times in his 204.75 minutes of screen time.

His “Nice Guy Score”: (1000/204.75)*18=87.9 points or 1 thanks per 11.4 mins.

Conclusion: as you can see, Thor, Bruce, Steve and Tony are very close to each other and far from Clint and Nat. The issue of "less screen time" doesn't apply here, because Natasha has more screen time than Bruce.

Grouped together, we can conclude that these 4 big guys say “thank you” a lot and do it often. Whether they do this every time they should is another question and will be considered separately.

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You know what I did, guys? I forgot a "thank you". In the post-credit scene of IM3. So now there are 29 times, instead of 28.

“Tony never says Thank you”

Tony:

Iron Man (2008):

0:14:33

0:38:19

0:54:08

0:59:17

1:24:17

1:40:10

Iron Man 2:

0:09:57

0:49:07

1:25:23

1:44:59

1:45:08

1:46:10

Iron Man 3:

0:58:06

1:12:16

1:58:00

2:09:04

Avengers: Age of Ultron:

0:13:45

0:21:16

Captain America: Civil War:

0:31:35

0:57:10

1:16:00

Spider-Man: Homecoming:

2:01:10

Avengers: Infinity War:

0:12:48

0:20:50

0:24:48

1:18:54

Avengers: Endgame:

0:04:13

0:42:53

1:46:11

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He did this 29 times.

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