#Azula was 14

[loraliewritesthings]

You know how Azula is only like 14.

I desperately want a dc x avatar crossover where Jason Todd is like, guess I'm a dad now.

for more then a couple reasons

First of all the character growth. Jason learns not all people who hallucinate are like the joker. Azula learns that how her father treated her is not normal

Azula deserves someone who understands the mommy issues

Girl dad jason

Tell me Jason wouldn't take one look at this girl whose been praised for her talent for destruction and then demonized for it and be like been there done that.

For the sake of teaching Azula to channel the aggression in a semi constructive way.

Also Azula who was dismissed by her mother for being too aggressive and Jason who was dismissed by Bruce for the exact same reason

I firmly believe Azula is redeemable, it's just that no one bothered with the hard work and she was left in the hands of a monster.

[timetravelermoonchild]

I'm convinced the only reason people like Zuko's redemption arc is because you get to see his tragic backstory all through the series meanwhile most of Azula's scenes are made from other characters point of view(who absolutely hate her or fear her or both) except the final scenes which coincidentally are when we start to see a more human side from her 🤷 I don't know if the writers said she could be redeemed it means there's so much more to Azula's story and life than Zuko's (and others) reduced view of her.

how do people watch atla and genuinely come to the conclusion that the traumatised 14 year old girl is the true irredeemable villain of the series?

[lazyveran]

bitching with the boys

[podsn]

I’m glad to see animated kids actually look like kids. It makes the fact that they are child soldiers more real and shocking.

[melissarthomson]

Finally, I present my favorite fic right now by @unorthodoxx-page , A Tale of Spirits!

This is my favorite scene tbh 👀 with my two favorite characters

[aangarchy]

My little cousin (15) is watching atla for the first time. She's just started season 2. Here are her opinions of the characters so far:

Aang: "bald. Very bald."

Katara: "bad bitches do it so well"

Sokka: "attractive but in an older cousin type of way" (??????)

Zuko: "also bald. Angry and bald. Although he changed his hair now so just angry i guess."

Azula: "i will use my right to remain silent."

Uncle Iroh: "how old is he? Like 80? I'm gonna say 80."

Admiral Zhao: "musty dusty crusty" her exact words.

Yue: "she's coming back right?" Oh sweet summer child.

Jet: "all i remember is that stupid wheat thing in his mouth."

Haru: "who?"

King Bumi: "he looks like his mother got electrocuted when he was in the womb"

Suki and the Kyoshi Warriors: "all power to them bc i would not stand a chance fighting in a heavy dress"

[carrion-corvus]

Fear is the only reliable way

[rootbeerwarriors]

SHES JUST A GIRL IN THE WORLD

[waterfire1848]

AU that @edy-lyy and I created - Katara and Azula meet up one night in an Earth Kingdom town and decide on a truce just for that night. They end up getting drunk and, without thinking, get married. The next morning, the two are ready to never see each other again or think about their “wedding” only to find that, in the eyes of the spirits, they��re now married which includes a spirit bond that doesn’t allow them to go more than 20 feet from one another or hurt each other.

[kideaternomnom]

Azula antis: She’s pure evil.

Me: ...Well, Zuko changed so why can’t she get a chance?

Antis: Uh- she was born evil! She had no empathy!

Me: My guy, she was raised by literal Ozai and was neglected by her mom along with Iroh. Zuko could’ve been the same and so could’ve ANYONE. That was the whole point of that one episode showing Roku’s backstory. She’s also still only 14 in the finale and 16 in the comics.

Antis: Erm- uh...She rejected redemption! Yeah- she’s pure evil for that!

Me: Zuko rejected redemption in season 2. But he still changed.

Antis:

[turkeycalamitybff]

Me: knows that Azula is 14 Me: understands the horrible nature of that and how the manipulation of her father changed her and how she was a child

Azula in the new TV show:

Me:

Me: THATS A CHILD

[earfgoddesss]

i did this and YOU can also do your own.

[seawitchkaraoke]

The thing is if your story is about teenage protagonists and antagonists you really can't go too deep into the "omg they are children why are they responsible for this??" "Omg they are children why are they getting blamed for [evil thing they did]" bc if you do that to much, your entire world is gonna unravel

You really only have a few options. You can

a) kill all the adults, tell a post apocalyptic story, very effective

b) ignore the fact that the adults should really be taking care of this, trust the audience to suspend disbelief or

c) have all the adults canonically be assholes

So... Why is Kipperlily fully seen as making her own choices and being responsible for choosing the ragestar and killing her party despite being 17 and probably influenced by the adults around her?

Bc well, if you excuse everything she's done, you'll have to do that with every future teenage villain in this world too. And you'll have to do the same with the bad kids! They're just children, Kristen shouldn't be held responsible for Cassandra getting corrupted again she's a child! Fabian shouldn't be responsible for all those pirates in leviathan getting killed he's a kid they shouldn't have listened to him!

And like. On a meta level saying all that is all good and fine, we can go well the adults are all assholes if we want but you can't pull that into the story if you want to still have any adult characters believably be good guys.

Doesn't mean this was the only way to handle Kipperlily but I do think any redemption would have needed more time and investment from the bad kids which, bc they are also teenagers and they never saw any reason to be sympathetic towards her, isn't there

Doesn't mean Kipperlily can't ever be redeemed but just "well she's just a kid" isn't enough to do it believably and well and an epilogue isn't enough time to do it in. If they'd brought her back she'd have either gotten a waaayy too speedrun not very believable redemption arc and/or the bad kids would have looked really naive

Let her be in hell, she'll probably rule the place in no time, she'll be happy there

[lazyveran]

WHO is azula talking to here. what is she saying. i need to know

[hjonko]

shes my blorbi scrimble wimble stinky possum

[snogards]

I think it's insane that after the final Agni Kai, Zuko was able to tank a hyper-powered lightning bolt (I mean, tank in the way he was still moving after getting hit, even if it was just groans of pain and slight twitching). He just got healed by Katara for about 5 seconds and was A-OK afterward.

When Aang got struck by lightning, he was in a coma for like what? Almost a month? And you're telling me Zuko gets struck by lightning, and 5 minutes later, is walking around like it never happened? Sorry, I can't believe that.

But Sno, you say, Aang was in his most fragile state. Of course, he was in a month long coma after he basically died. Okay, and I think that Zuko being hit by a lightning bolt 100x more powerful than the one Aang got hit by would also put Zuko in a coma; especially because Katara doesn't have the spirit water to bring him back to life. Unlike Aang, Zuko only gets regular water, not magic water, to heal him.

"But, but Zuko redirected it," you say. Uh no, Zuko wasn't grounded, so that shit still hit him like a damn truck. He redirected some of it, but not all of it. I would probably say that it burnt him from the inside out. It's a miracle that in LOK, that man is still kicking it and being a badass in his early 90s. He should have serious heart issues, if not have died in his 70s at the absolute latest. The man should not be kicking ass in the poles. He should be on bed rest.

In conclusion, Zuko should have been in a coma for like at least a year (realistically he should be dead, but this is a kids show where the main characters aren't allowed to die, so I'll let it slide) and I will stand by that.

If you wanna read how the creators could have worked with comatose Zuko, read under the cut. If not, then I hope you enjoyed my little rant. This post got longer than I thought.

Here's how the creators could have dealt with comatose Zuko and the potential storylines our other favorites could have had at the end of book 3 and a majority of the potential and nonexistent book 4:

Aang is having to deal with the consequences of Ozai being left alive, as I'm sure the Earth Kingdom and the Water Tribes would not like that fact. As well as their newest Fire Lord currently being in a comatose state. They barely trusted Zuko. Are you telling me they're gonna trust The Dragon of the West? (More on this at the end) And maybe Aang would actually get some character development, unlike in season 3.

I don't think Sokka, Suki, and Toph would have storylines that center Zuko all that much, but they would also definitely be mourning the semi-loss of Zuko along with whatever storyline they get. Maybe Sokka and Suki can have conflict in their relationship now that the war is over and they might physically have to go their own ways. Toph can probably wonder where she can go from here. Will she try and reconcile with her parents again? Will she travel with Aang once Zuko wakes up? Will she stay in the Fire Nation and help Zuko sniff out traitors with her seismic sense? Needless to say, the 3 of them have endless opportunities.

Katara is now dealing with the guilt of not only having put Zuko in that position in the first place, but also not being able to fully heal him (even though he would have done that for anyone, not just her). And if you're a Zutara shipper, like myself, even realizing potential feelings and the conflict that comes with that. Or if we still wanna go through with the canon ending of Kataang, have her navigate her feelings about Aang properly and not whatever that original canon ending was. And if we wanna go the "Katara doesn't need a man" route (my personal favorite despite my shipping tendencies), she could try and navigate where she goes from here, like Toph. Obviously, she'll go back to the Southern Water Tribe and help out there, but what comes after they've recovered? She's not the type to stand by and settle when there are other people who need her help. Will she go to the Earth Kingdom and help rebuild there? Go to the Fire Nation and help out there? Become an ambassador of the Southern Water Tribe to help better relations with the other nations? (My personal favorite) The possibilities are endless for her.

But you know who would be affected the most? Iroh. Not only did he (kinda) lose his nephew, who was his second son, but he now has to deal with the diplomatic repercussions of his past as a general of the Fire Nation. Like I said before, the Earth Kingdom and the Water Tribes barely trusted Zuko; no way in hell are they gonna trust the man that laid seige to Ba Sing Se for nearly 2 whole years, regardless if he's the reason the city was freed from Fire Nation control. The pressure Iroh would feel from advisors regarding the fact that his only heir is comatose would increasingly get worse as the months go by. We know that Zuko will wake up, but Iroh and the rest of the cast don't. Iroh is dealing with the fracturing Fire Nation and pressure from the Earth Kingdom and the Water Tribes, all while his son is in a coma. He could see what he was going to have Zuko face by himself with no support around him. What would he do with Ozai? Would be a major question throughout the season.

Of course, in the end, Zuko wakes up because we want a happy ending for them all. But the turmoil we could have gotten in the end would have been *chefs kiss*