#As in Kakashi gen vs Naruto gen

[marginal-notes]

Upon reflection, it would be pretty easy and neat to have a Bloodborne fusion with Naruto.

You have the Senju and the Uchiha and all these clans coming together in pursuit of healing and cleansing, seeking miracles in a world torn by suffering. But as time goes on, this vaulted land corrupts into something sinister and terrible.

You already have specialists trained in fire and the hunt. Symbols (seals) with power, and I’m sure the shinobi would love to try out guns. Who doesn’t want trick weapons galore to augment the violent might of people with strength beyond pure human.

Something is rotten in the root of the land’s foundation. People are turning into unholy beasts through the consequences of their actions (*cough* jinchuriki *cough*).

Literal eye based gaining of knowledge and power and havE I MENTIONED THE MOON ALIEN GODS THINGS. AND THE ETERNAL NIGHTMARE DREAM.

[obitobi-simp]

i am sorry to inform you

I started a Kawaki and obito obsession and made a new au just for them

THEY ARE THE SAME BUT AT THE SAME TIME NOT

Obito is the Naruto of his generationthat gave up

Naruto is the obito of his generation that didn't give up to hate

And kawaki idk much i'm not cought up on blue 2 vortex sry

But they all have 1 thing in comen

They have been abused/mistreated to the point they cling to the only person(s) that are showing a hint of not hating/bring indiffret to them and saved them from ninja hell/being their light

Obito had rin the only one that didn't look dowen on him and made his misrable life barable (later kakashi but didn't last long and not as strong as rin but him too)

Naruto luckily had multiple ppl (the reason he didn't end up like Obito but I would love to see a spin-off of that) Iruka SASUKE kakashi Jiraya ect

Kawaki has naruto and he's just so hurt and so cute with naruto . He sees him as his savior and feels like he owens naruto and want to eo anything to protect him

They all have BPD (idk abt Naruto but Obito and Kawaki 200%)

Like Kawaki and Obito like if Obito lived he'd love Kawaki and would do ANYTHING so, Kawaki would NOT end up like Obito

Kawakis and Obitos bond would be so unhealthy for both but obito teches kawaki how to cope and he will be blunt and honest with kawaki like

K: ik your gonna tell me how greatfull i should be cuz ppl from your gen got it worse let's get this over with

O : *laughs * maby it could be worse for you but i'll be honest kid i was far better off then you. You have it way worse then me your life is fucked up from start to finish

K: ...

K: is this supposed to make me feel better

And they start to talk but Obito realizes some other stuff abt kawaki so they sparr First Obito let's him kills him a few times (Izanagi or not he's like a cockroach anyway) so he can get the anrgy out without actuly hurting somone so kawaki can let everything out without the fear if hurting somone he cares abt

And having someone else than Naruto to go to

Naruto vs Obito round 2 who gets custody of the random kid

O: I take him

N: no you, not I already called dips on him

O: YOU ALREADY HAVE TWO KIDS GIVE ME THIS ONE I'M GONNA SHOW HIM HOW TO BE A REAL TERRORIST

N: N O you can forget that also thr last child you where holding was me snd you thretrned my life with a kunai and put a bomb on me befor i was 1 min old your not going near my new son

O: and look at you you turned out perfectly fine how abt this i take him on weekdays and you on the weekends

N: No do I need to draw pictures for you?

O: ok fine you take him monday-satureday and i'll go out with him on sundays ?

N: still NO N-O no

Obito takes him on Sundays anyways

[bestnarutoduo]

It’s finally here!

The official ‘Best Naruto Duo’ Poll. I will set uo posts and begin the voting tomorrow :).

Round One

Orochimaru & Kabuto. Vs Minato & Kushina

Round Two

Neji & Hinata vs Kisame & Itachi

Round Three

Madara & Obito vs Asuma & Kurenai

Round Four

Sasori & Sakura vs Omoi & Karui

Round Five

Gai & Lee vs Sasuke & Naruto (adult)

Round Six

Kakashi & Obito vs Kakashi & Yamato

Round Seven

Kakuzu & Hidan vs Sakura & Chiyo

Round Eight

Danzo & Hiruzen vs Sasuke & Suigetsu

Round Nine

Shikamaru & Temari vs Darui & C

Round Ten

Zabuza & Haku vs Sakura & Ino

Round Eleven

Sasuke & Naruto (kid/gen) vs Izumo & Kotetsu

Round Twelve

Sasuke & Juugo vs Madara & Hashirama

Round Thirteen

Diedara & Sasori vs Shikamaru & Choji

Round Fourteen

A & Bee vs Kakashi & Gai

Round Fifteen

Gaara & Kankuro vs Konan & Negato

Round Sixteen

Ino & Sai vs Jiraiya & Tsunade

[narhinafan]

What grinds your gears the most

Well mine is when people misunderstand the entire point of Naruto as it centering about Hardwork vs talent or team 7 when it isn't.

Naruto is about a cursed lonely kid, a kid shunned and hated by everyone, and this kid learns to form bonds that will help him , bonds with friends teachers and finally reforming his bond with his brother and learning to love and settling down, it's also about his hardships and turning foes into allies and drawing people in by his never ending will.

This is the best panel in Naruto, it shows how much he grew how much he accomplished, and it shows that Obito is the Naruto who never got help form Kakashi Iruka Jiraiya Hinata Sasuke Shikamaru and the others

I hate it when people say oh it should end with team seven when Naruto started with NARUTO AND IRUKA not kakashi not team Seven with Iruka and in the anime it ended with Naruto and Iruka really, it ended with Iruka giving Naruto his congrats on marrying and becoming an adult

And it's a crime there isn't a earthbound type naruhina au

Agreed the story was always about Naruto going from being alone to no longer being alone. This is why the manga ending being the new gen with Naruto having started a family really hits hard. Plus the anime did better by ending it with his wedding and a Iruka scene like how the anime started.

Plus the second last chapter of Naruto Sasuke gives a whole internal dialogue about his and Naruto's friendship and how they both started out alone. That chapter wasn't meant to be a team 7 ending, but showed Naruto reuniting with his best friend/brother it symbolised how far Naruto and Sasuke came from having grown up alone as well as how he protected his bond with him.

I agree it really grinds my gears where people only go on about team 7 and not the actual message of Naruto's story and what it was about and why it ended like it did.

[depressedhatakekakashi]

Reading your post I just realized that until now I thought that the chunin exams were always done against other villages xd not just with Konoha ninjas, was the Naruto exam the only one different?

There were times it was different. Kt always depends on the political situation.

When we see Kakashi’s gen take their exams they only face off against other konoha nin (team minato vs team choza, gai vs obito, Kakashi vs gai, etc)

Even in Boruto the second chunin exam in the anime is done so the villages do them all separately because of the situation at the time.

Kakashi’s gen most likely had only konoha shinobi to face because konoha was in the middle of a war. No one was going to put their war on hold to do the chunin exams together, and even if they acted like thry would, the village hosting the exams would have to trust that no one would pull anything

Hiruzen extended that trust to the sound village and sand village for naruto’s chunin exams, and look how that turned out

So it is highly likely that Kakashi’s gen only ever had chunin exams against other konoha shinobi, so they knew their opponents and they knew they might get injured, but the chances of dying were very very low (where as the mist was different at the time, and chances of death were still high because that was a goal of their exams)

[irritable-bowel-showdown]

Irritable Bowel Showdown: ROUND 1

Matchups and start times below:

Part 1 - (July 18 at 4pm UTC)

Bambi (Dave & Bambi) vs Barry Bluejeans (The Adventure Zone) [winner faces Johnny Sasaki (Metal Gear) in Round Two]

Josuke Higashikata (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) vs Steven Universe (Steven Universe)

God of Indigestion (Discworld) vs Shauna Shipman (Yellowjackets)

Sakaeguchi Yuuto (Ookiku Furikabutte/Big Windup!) vs Soldier (Team Fortress 2) [winner faces Isaac Moriah (The Binding of Isaac) in Round Two]

Reigen Arataka (Mob Psycho 100) vs Jotaro Kujo (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) [winner faces Magellan (One Piece) in Round Two]

Triss Merigold (The Witcher) vs Craig Boone (Fallout: New Vegas) [winner faces Primis "Tank" Dempsey (Call of Duty: Zombies) in Round Two]

Mari (Yellowjackets) vs Panty Anarchy (Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt) [winner faces Carl Wheezer (Jimmy Neutron) in Round Two]

Toshinori Yagi/All Might (My Hero Academia) vs Dave Strider (Homestuck) [winner faces Henry the Green Engine (Thomas and Friends) in Round Two]

Marvin Grossberg (Ace Attorney) vs Ochako Uraraka (My Hero Academia) [winner faces Belphegor (SMT/Persona series) in Round Two]

Part 2 - (July 19 at 4pm UTC)

Amu Hinamori (Shugo Chara) vs Bor'dor Dog'son (Critical Role) [winner faces Chidi Anagonye (The Good Place) in Round Two]

DJ (Beast Wars II) vs Walter Tattersall (Yellowjackets)

Filbo Fiddlepie (Bugsnax) vs Roy Kent (Ted Lasso)

Spock (Star Trek) vs Harrowhark Nonagesimus (The Locked Tomb) [winner faces Dr. Crygor (WarioWare) in Round Two]

The Onceler (The Lorax) vs Lan Wangji (The Untamed) [winner faces Owen (Total Drama) in Round Two]

Alphys (Undertale) vs Bubbie (The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack) [winner faces Deandra the New Girl (The Most Popular Girls in School) in Round Two]

Declan Lynch (The Dreamer Trilogy) vs William Afton (Five Nights at Freddy's)

Kanata (Gokurakugai) vs Rock Lee (Naruto)

Tagora Gorjek (Hiveswap) vs Geralt of Rivia (The Witcher) [winner faces anon who shit on couch (real life) in Round Two]

Nyack of the Rana'for (Not Another D&D Podcast) vs Marinette Dupain-Cheng (Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir) [winner faces Shit in Pants Guy (Johnny the Homicidal Maniac) in Round Two]

Part 3 - (July 20 at 4pm UTC)

Loki the cat (real life) vs Loretta the cat (Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile) [winner faces you, the voter (real life) in Round Two]

Enid Mettle (OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes) vs Tomura Shigaraki (My Hero Academia)

Hailey (Hatchetfield Nightmare Time) vs Saint (Rain World)

Senri (Koisuru Bokura wa Ichou ga Yowai) vs James Tiberius Kirk (Star Trek) [winner faces Griffin McElroy (real life) in Round Two]

Porky Pig (Looney Tunes) vs Juniper Sloan (Camp Here and There) [winner faces Naruto Uzumaki (Naruto) in Round Two]

Havelock Vetinari (Discworld) vs Clark Kent (Superman) [winner faces Kakashi Hatake (Naruto) in Round Two]

Larry Appleton (Perfect Strangers) vs Queen Chrysalis (My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic) [winner faces Doctor Sung (TWRP) in Round Two]

The test subject who shat in the elevator (Portal 2) vs David Rose (Schitt's Creek) (hehe) [winner faces Jean Pierre Polnareff (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) in Round Two]

Niki Shiina (Ensemble Stars) vs Napstablook (Undertale) [winner faces Yuga Aoyama (My Hero Academia) in Round Two]

Part 4 - (July 21 at 4pm UTC)

Asahi Azumane (Haikyuu!!) vs Benrey (HLVR: AI) [winner faces Nekomaru Nidai (Danganronpa) in Round Two]

Dareth (LEGO Ninjago) vs Dabi (My Hero Academia)

Hiroshi Yuuki (Full Dive: This Ultimate Next-Gen Full Dive RPG Is Even Shittier than Real Life!) vs Rung (Transformers)

Spamton G. Spamton (Deltarune) vs Hatsune Miku (Vocaloid) [winner faces Elmo Monster (Sesame Street) in Round Two]

PaRappa Rappa (PaRappa the Rapper) vs Kuwabara Kazuma (Yu Yu Hakusho) [winner faces Okuyasu Nijimura (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) in Round Two]

Zhao Yunlan (Guardian) vs c!Tommyinnit (Dream SMP) [winner faces Hinata Shouyou (Haikyuu!!) in Round Two]

Dean Winchester (Supernatural) vs Tadashi Yamaguchi (Haikyuu!!)

Kuruto Ryuki (AI: The Sominum Files - Nirvana Initiative) vs Raji Shenazard (Snow White with the Red Hair)

Tenzil Kem/Matter Eater Lad (DC) vs Dimitri 1 (101 Dalmation Street) [winner faces Shoichi Irie (Katekyo Hitman Reborn) in Round Two]

Yami Sukehiro (Black Clover) vs Mr. Tang (Lego Monkie Kid) [winner faces Megatron (Transformers) in Round Two]

[bigender-swag-battle]

LET THE BIGENDER SWAG BATTLE BEGIN

Here is the bracket! I tried my best to try and make the initial matches as fair as I could, but there's definitely a chance that I did not pair these very well due to my limited knowledge of how popular these franchises and characters are. Here is the list of matches with poll links. Current matches are above the cut, everything else is under it.

Here is the randomized redemption battle royale masterpost

Final Round (Round 6)

Princess Zelda/Sheik (The Legend of Zelda) VS Juno Steel (The Penumbra Podcast) VS Haruka Tenou/Sailor Uranus (Sailor Moon)

Round 5 - Semifinals (July 27th, 3pm EST)

Side A:

Princess Zelda/Sheik (The Legend of Zelda) VS Ena (ENA)

Side B:

Haruka Tenou/Sailor Uranus (Sailor Moon) VS Susato Mikotoba (Ace Attorney)

Round 4

Side A:

Princess Zelda/Sheik (The Legend of Zelda) VS Haruhi Fujioka (Ouran Highschool Host Club)

Ena (ENA) VS Vil Schoenheit (Twisted Wonderland)

Side B:

Jessie and James (Pokémon) VS Haruka Tenou/Sailor Uranus (Sailor Moon)

Juno Steel (The Penumbra Podcast) VS Susato Mikotoba (Ace Attorney)

Round 3

Side A:

Angel Devil (Chainsaw Man) VS Princess Zelda/Sheik (The Legend of Zelda)

Rui Kamishiro (Project Sekai) VS Haruhi Fujioka (Ouran Highschool Host Club)

Ena (ENA) VS Vflower (Vocaloid)

Vil Schoenheit (Twisted Wonderland) VS Cybersix/Adrian Seidelman (Cybersix)

Side B:

Rainbow Dash (My Little Pony) VS Jessie and James (Pokémon)

Envy (Fullmetal Alchemist) VS Haruka Tenou/Sailor Uranus (Sailor Moon)

Juno Steel (The Penumbra Podcast) VS Mizuki Akiyama (Project Sekai)

Susato Mikotoba (Ace Attorney) VS Jesse (Minecraft Story Mode)

Round 2

Side A:

Angel Devil (Chainsaw Man) VS Josuke Higashikata (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)

Byleth (Fire Emblem) VS Princess Zelda/Sheik (The Legend of Zelda)

Joker/Ren Amamiya (Persona 5) VS Rui Kamishiro (Project Sekai)

Teruki Hanazawa (Mob Psycho 100) VS Haruhi Fujioka (Ouran Highschool Host Club)

Bugs Bunny (Looney Tunes) VS Ena (ENA)

Sora (Kingdom Hearts) VS Vflower (Vocaloid)

Vil Schoenheit (Twisted Wonderland) VS Alan Grant (Jurassic Park)

Cybersix/Adrian Seidelman (Cybersix) VS Amanda O'Neill (Little Witch Academia)

Side B April 30th, 12 PM EST:

Chihiro Fujisaki (Danganronpa) VS Rainbow Dash (My Little Pony)

Zhongli (Genshin Impact) VS Steven Universe (Steven Universe) VS Jessie and James (Pokémon)

Envy (Fullmetal Alchemist) VS Kakashi Hatake (Naruto)

Klaus Hargreeves (Umbrella Academy) VS Haruka Tenou/Sailor Uranus (Sailor Moon)

Kurata Tome (Mob Psycho 100) VS Juno Steel (The Penumbra Podcast)

Mizuki Akiyama (Project Sekai) VS Wayne (Hylics)

Alex Fierro (Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard) VS Susato Mikotoba (Ace Attorney)

Prince Sebastian/Lady Crystallia (The Prince and the Dressmaker) VS Jesse (Minecraft Story Mode)

Round 1

Side B (April 4th, 12 PM EST):

Chihiro Fujisaki (Danganronpa) VS Raphael Hamato (Rise of the TMNT)

Rainbow Dash (My Little Pony) VS Spy (TF2)

Zhongli (Genshin Impact) VS Steven Universe (Steven Universe)

Dr. Teeth and The Electric Mayhem (The Muppets) VS Jessie and James (Pokémon)

Envy (Fullmetal Alchemist) VS Bentham/Mr. 2 Bon Clay (One Piece)

Kakashi Hatake (Naruto) VS Marika/Radagon (Elden Ring)

Klaus Hargreeves (Umbrella Academy) VS Sara Chidouin (Your Turn To Die)

Haruka Tenou/Sailor Uranus (Sailor Moon) VS Yuuga Aoyama (My Hero Academia)

Jadzia Dax (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) VS Kurata Tome (Mob Psycho 100)

Juno Steel (The Penumbra Podcast) VS Jonathan Sims (The Magnus Archives)

Gen Asagiri (Dr. Stone) VS Mizuki Akiyama (Project Sekai)

G0z the Clown (Roblox Myths) VS Wayne (Hylics)

Kaoru Sakurayashiki/Cherry Blossom (Sk8 the Infinity) VS Alex Fierro (Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard)

Susato Mikotoba (Ace Attorney) VS Yuri Leclerc (Fire Emblem)

Hura Stapleton (The Office Type) VS Prince Sebastian/Lady Crystallia (The Prince and the Dressmaker)

Mr. Rowan Webb (The Worst Witch) VS Jesse (Minecraft Story Mode)

Round 1

Side A:

Eridan Ampora (Homestuck) VS Angel Devil (Chainsaw Man)

Josuke Higashikata (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure) VS Getou Suguru (Jujutsu Kaisen)

Byleth (Fire Emblem) VS Sakura Haruno (Naruto)

Luz Noceda (The Owl House) VS Zelda/Sheik (The Legend of Zelda)

Mondo Owada (Danganronpa) VS Joker/Ren Amamiya (Persona 5)

Rui Kamishiro (Project Sekai) VS Mafuyu Asahina (Project Sekai)

Teruki Hanazawa (Mob Psycho 100) VS Shiver (Splatoon)

Haruhi Fujioka (Ouran Highschool Host Club) VS Baji Keisuke (Tokyo Revengers)

Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) VS Bugs Bunny (Looney Tunes)

Ena (ENA) VS Basil (OMORI)

Sora (Kingdom Hearts) VS Kurapika Kurta (Hunter x Hunter)

Vflower (Vocaloid) VS Wocky Kitaki (Ace Attorney)

Vil Schoenheit (Twisted Wonderland) VS Ukyo Saionji (Dr. Stone)

Alan Grant (Jurassic Park) VS Tom (Eddsworld)

Amanda O'Neill (Little Witch Academia) VS Billie (Bigtop Burger)

Cybersix/Adrian Seidelman (Cybersix) VS Hinata Tachibana (Fabiniku/Life with an Ordinary Guy Who Reincarnated into a Total Fantasy Knockout)

Round 0

Side A:

Sollux Captor (Homestuck) VS Eridan Ampora (Homestuck)

Mondo Owada (Danganronpa) VS Kokichi Ouma (Danganronpa)

Shigeo "Mob" Kageyama (Mob Psycho 100) VS Teruki Hanazawa (Mob Psycho 100)

Side B:

Kazuichi Souda (Danganronpa VS Chihiro Fujisaki (Danganronpa)

Zhongli (Genshin Impact) VS Yoimiya (Genshin Impact)

Envy (Fullmetal Alchemist) VS Alex Louis Armstrong (Fullmetal Alchemist)

[rantahead]

Why I Ship BoruSumi

No hate

In Naruto, it was all about shipping. People love watching Naruto or other characters having romantic relationships with others and ship baits and it was exciting to see what would be end game. It was all about the fun. But a part of the fandom took that fun and made it a nightmare (NaruSaku/Sakura) fandom. They sent death threats to Masashi Kishimoto and the team to make NaruSaku canon and loved hating on any other character that interacted with Naruto, mostly Hinata Hyuga. But after the ending of Naruto, some of the fandom can’t seem to accept that. They moved onto the kids, hoping to live out their delusions through them (Boruto and Sarada). After Boruto the movie came out, most people speculated that they would be canon, and because the next gen wasn’t planned yet, they had no one else to pair Boruto up with, so that’s why there are a lot of blushing scenes.  

Now, BoruSumi is one of Boruto’s most popular ships, along with BoruSara. Here's why I ship BoruSumi:

Opposites:

Ever heard of the saying, “opposites attract”. Yeah, well, that’s true in this case. Most Naruto/Boruto couples are yin and yang. Yin being quiet, emotionless, and shy. Whereas yang is loud, obnoxious, and easily angered. Boruto was quickly ruled out as yang, whereas Sumire was ruled as yin. Boruto often pulled pranks and would shout and have random outbursts. Sumire was shown to be quiet and shy and scared whenever her class was having fall outs, which was easily shown in one episode where the class was having a girl VS boy battle. Even after her arc, she was still shown to be scared about other people and what they think of her and a shy and caring person:

Now, every Naruto/Boruto character get their personality from either their mother or father and Naruto and Sasuke got theirs from their mothers and married someone like their fathers (Hinata/Minato and Sakura/Fugaku). Even Itachi got Mikoto's personality and Izumi had Fugaku's (it was confirmed that Itachi loved her). It's only fair since Boruto inherited his father's personality that he marries someone like his mother, that being Sumire. Sarada, in contrast to what people think, actually inherited her mother's personality.

2. Treat each other differently:

Sumire is kind so she treats everyone equally, but she has confirmed her feelings towards Boruto twice, but this one's mostly pointed towards Boruto.

Chocho: Shouted at her, angry at her, called her a liar, etc:

Namida: He's barely had any interaction with her but she is a friend of his. But in this scene, he didn't have a direct conversation with her, but still wanted to help. But judging from his calmness, her wanting to not be a ninja didn't bug him much. He has also seen to tease her and Wasabi:

Sarada: He didn't see her as a normal girl and hated her guts, vice versa. But as the anime/manga went on, he became comfortable around her and saw her as only a teammate:

But with Sumire, he listens to her like she's his mom, which Sumire is technically the mom or big sister of the group:

3. He doesn't call her by her name:

People may think this is a con to the ship, but it's actually a pro. In Japan, calling someone by their title has shown to be respectful and calling people like how Boruto calls Kakashi, Konohamaru and Hanabi is shown to be disrespectful. Now, he probably thinks he's not close or not good enough to call her by her name. But he always respected her, more than I can say for Sarada and his own sensei. He only called her by her name once and that was when he had saved her from darkness, but it was also life-changing for him, meaning her name meant something to him. That was when Sumire started having feelings, too. 4. Jealousy: Sumire has shown jealous (the scene where Boruto was chasing Sarada on the boat in the Kiri arc), but it was barely displayed. Boruto, however was shown jealousy over her two times (probably even more but I haven't watched the whole show, just up to episode 232, but these are the scenes I can remember):

5. Boruto was worried for Sumire when she was in trouble:

In the last scene, Boruto was upset (and in the novel, he even cried for her) and blamed himself for her getting hurt.

6. Boruto blames himself for Sumire getting hurt:

In the novel (as mentioned earlier), Boruto cried for Sumire in the novel, but in the anime, it showed him as worried. It got so bad that Sarada had to drag him out. He then vowed to stop the guy who hurt her.

7. Those around Boruto seem to know he gets a bit overprotective of Sumire:

Shikadai:

He was worried about Boruto's reaction when Inojin said that Sumire might be transferring.

After Inojin opened his big mouth, Boruto instantly became angry and tried getting her back.

Mitsuki:

Mitsuki is a bit different because he doesn't know but he does, if that makes sense. It's obvious that Mitsuki likes Boruto (I'm pretty sure it's confirmed), so that technically makes Sumire his rival. But Mitsuki still seemed to know that whenever Sumire was involved, Boruto would act differently and rush over to her. He knew he acted differently around her. He even went as far to ask her about Boruto when she was in the hospital, all because he took Inojin's words out of context and assumed she liked him.

Naruto:

Boruto's own father seemed to know how much Boruto cared for her. Naruto probably realized this when Boruto asked him to use his Hokage title. You could see the realization on his face and the smile he gave him was a "I will, trust me" one (there is a pic, but I can't find it).

Hinata:

A mother knows her child best, right? Hinata had been in love with Naruto since childhood, so she knew about young love. She didn't know Sumire in person, but she knew that she was important to Boruto since he rarely ever asks anything from his father.

7. Boruto trusts Sumire:

Now, Boruto trusts all his comrades, but he trusted Sumire even after everything that she did and his trust in her was unbelievable. He put his life in her hands even though she tried to destroy his home and family. He even put faith in her and wanted to protect her and couldn't chose between her and the village.

8. Parallels:

KawaSumi is parallel with SasuHina (purple being mc's rival and lover, but Kawaki's and Sasuke's are leaning towards black, but at one point was purple) and BoruSara is parallel with SasuKari/NaruSaku.

10. Confessions:

Sumire has confessed her feelings like Hinata has.

11. Data book:

In Sumire's data book, it was confirmed that she loved Boruto, just like Hinata's and Sakura's confirmed their love to their respective partners.

But this is all my opinion and why I ship them. But if you ship BoruSara then that's fine. But these are my reasons for shipping this ship and I'm pretty sure it's canon because of the last point. I don't think that Ino or Karin's have confirmed their feelings for Sasuke when the series was going on. And I know Sarada's definitely hasn't. But ship your own ship.

Only time will tell, I guess. and the decisions for Kishi to decide and some rabid fans sending death threats to him to make their ship canon won't change his mind.

[randomnameless]

The only time I felt a major arc in Boruto(anime wise. The manga is its own can of worms)was genuinely bad and didn’t make sense was the Mist Village vs Eco Pirates, especially as they threw cycle of revenge BOTH SIDES in even though the Eco Pirates were legit insane and their arguments don’t make sense that one of them sought ReVeNgE because his sister was hurt when Boruto protected himself in SELF-DEFENSE and killed herself in a hospital room by taking off all the tubes giving her fluids and KEEPING HER ALIVE! She was such an irrational spiteful human being who killed herself out of hate but clearly it’s Borutos fault! That he didn’t let her kill him!

Even the oldest son of the Eco Pirates leader who had been raised to believe his father was the only way to protect their clan realized his father was insane and was murdered by his father when he tried to make peace with the Mist because his father was just a spiteful mosnter and their mom was an idiot that died in battle on board a ship when the pirates were RAIDING MIST SHIPS. It was just genuinely stupid.

I think stuff like Naruto’s failings leading to things being worse in areas, like letting the Mist collapse despite being so physically close in location to Konoha and the Fire Country, or him not trusting people the way he does Kakashi or Sasuke, especially as he had no real answer to making things better in Naruto itself, makes sense.

The "both sides uwu" or "cyle of hatred sad uwus" argument, especially how it is depicted in this general verse really pisses me so much and is one of the reasons I vastly prefer 1st gen to the fuckery that was shippuden, and later, as you pointed out, Boruto (I haven't watched those episodes, but reading the wiki about them makes me puke lol)

At least, in the 1st Gen, when Gaara wants to "hurt" the world because his crap dad tried to kill him, Gaara is only 12 and not in the best mental state thanks to Shukaku being an ass, and is proven wrong, which prompts his change.

Shippuden?

Nagato got his uwu moment to justify his "both sides" plan, because his random parents died in a war so in return he will bring "Tru Piss" to the world even if it means leveling a village full of randoms bcs he's pissed at Tsunade telling him to stop acting like a fucking brat and starting more conflicts that cause more and more senseless random's deaths.

(and then the dude nukes the village, including Ramen Guy and his daughter, to make a point or something)

but everything is alright uwu, since he rez everyone and we're supposed to follow Naruto's mindset, about the guy having had a point or something and the "uwu cycle of hatred that somehow includes killing people who haven't done a thing to you because they exist and it's not your fault if you had to slaughter them :("

(that's why, despite its own faults, I think BC is vastly superior, at least with this scene - Asta doesn't kill Patry when he reveals his tragic backstory and despite emphasing with him, he still punches him bcs dude, you killed a bunch of randoms who never asked for anything in your stupid plans)

Madara was the best example with his "wah wah, Hashirama y u kill me, i thought we could understand each other, see u and I are the same we kill because we can't understand each other :'(" after repeatedly attacking the Leaf, and all of its randoms, with Kurama many times.

As for those episodes you've mentionned -

Iirc Kagura was supposed to be the next Mizukage?

And lol @ his randoms friends for apparently wanting to ditch and betray him after they heard they would only get a 3 years reduction of their sentence, that they got, iirc, from the previous arc where they killed randoms and attempted a coup against the Mist???

Again, it's the general trend within that crap verse of giving more fucks to the perpetrators than to the victims - you can't fucking kill people and expect to get away with a slap on the wrist ; 1st gen Gaara understood it and swore to protect the people of Suna, as the Kazekage, to make up for what he used to do and what he used to be, which ends beautifuly with his final scene in the Deidara battle, and is corrected when he "wakes up" - aka his entire village loves him now (even if the later chapters of Shippuden try to retcon this in a Naruto wankering fest).

Anyways, iirc, one of those random dude in this filler killed Kagura by stabbing him after taking him hostage? And Boruto'n'co effectively dropped their weapons to comply to the dude's demands?

And then Boruto apparently goes in "rawr revenge mode" by pummeling randoms and nearly killing a kid, because that's totes how revenge works, I mean have you seen the old Chiyo pummeling Sakura to death because she comes from the same village as Sakumo? (and I'm pretty sure she was faking trying to attack Kakashi during her "senility" scene, because she didn't use any of the techniques she uses against Sasori!!)

Forget trying to build up or shoehorn an "uwu cycle of hatred uwu BaD uwu" with third rate characters in a third rate filler using a convoluted plot on how "killing terrorists BaD because their families will hate you afterwards :("

Why don't we have any samurai going to Konoha and having a beef with Sarada because Sasuke killed some of them during the land of iron arc? Like Pedro the Samurai's daughter, or niece, or grand-daughter ? I legit thought the samurai girl character would be something like this, but no, she's just pure filler material.

It's not a fair comparison at all, but I was re-re watching FMAB a few days ago, and I vastly prefer the "cycle of revenge" and Scar's general arc to whatever Kishimoto and whoever the fuck works on Boruto tried to give us.

Kishi's world is stupid enough to apparently make everyone accept Naruto's decisions even if those same decisions, if they were made by anyone else or during the Shippuden Era (or even the first gen), would have declared several wars or have been criticised to oblivion.

At least, the later manga reveals he is a shit hokage, even Shikamaru shits on him - and he receives the worst punishment ever, being fridged with "the woman who makes diner in his home" lol

[cartoonrival]

Now, I maybe misremembering bc I haven’t watched nart in years, but thinking back on it it’s crazy how little Sakura mattered to team 7s overall dynamic. It makes me so mad bc this team should be like a family but she was barely even friends with sasuke pre shippuden.

she is literally Never friends with sasuke ToT they get MARRIED and i still find it hard to believe he even likes being around her. i genuinely cannot remember a SINGLE one-on-one interaction she has with sasuke that can't be effectively described as "sakura is in love with him and he doesn't give a shit". gen the closest we get to that is after his fight with naruto when he apologizes to her for being such an asshole and she tells him that he should be sorry. THAT WAS EPIC. but anyways he def does care about her in the sense of "she is part of team 7 and i don't want her to die", but he doesn't consider her a friend. kakashi cares about her, but even though he trains one on one with both naruto And sasuke and teaches them both important skills that become staples of their fighting styles, he never does this with sakura, and she ends up training mostly under tsunade instead once team 7 dissolves for the 2.5 year naruto is off with jiraiya (i do like that she trained under tsunade and i like the stuff she learned (also because i love tsunade <33) but it def does emphasize how she just for some reason does not get solo lessons from kakashi)

i will defend her friendship with naruto though because those two def are like real actual friends and i think they're very cute, i love their interactions in shippuden especially during the arc where sai first joins them when theyre both grappling with sasuke being replaced, its just just suchhh a good display of how close they are and how much they love each other and how they rly are in this thing together. but ofc that said, esp because their best interactions are all in shippuden where team 7 is more or less dissolved, this doesnt really like. make her feel like a big part of team 7 bc as soon as sasuke is there naruto kind of forgets she exists mostly. so her contribution to the overall dynamic like you said is not really saved by the fact that naruto considers her a close friend.

whats especially frustrating is at the very start of the series, she's BETTER at controlling her chakra than naruto and sasuke. she immediately aces the walk-up-a-tree assignment, kakashi comments on her cleverness, etc, but as soon as the action starts she gets sidelined, Every Time. she spends half the battles they have as a team either 1) immediately incapacitated or 2) in the back guarding someone/something so that she can't be part of the actual combat. i did ofc ofc love love love the final scene in the fight vs kaguya when she joins naruto and sasuke in landing the final blow and kakashi is watching from the sidelines thinking about how much he loves them, oohouuh he loves them .. but ofc she'd been sidelined the whole battle with a feeew epic moments here and there so it did sort of feel like ok ladies ill throw you a bone. she can do one (1) punch ^_^ then she's getting ditched again though while naruto and sasuke collaborate on the most heartwrenching scenes of the entire series.

it rly is because kishimoto refused to define her character beyond having a crush on sasuke whenever they're on screen at the same time so her ability to contribute to the team dynamic was rly hurt. kakashi and sasuke SAYING that they care about her is great etc but i really wish they'dve SHOWED it more beyond having to protect her when she inevitably gets taken out faster than anybody else. this is why ep 101 (kakashi's mask ep) will always be famous

[in2011ihadaveryfamousdumblrblog]

It'd weird because this wilm happen to everyone. But at some point you will realise you prepared something, a basic corner of your life, and no one is gonna ask. No one cares. Its ok. Its just gonna go into the void. Im an absurdly rare specimen of a human. Im exceptionally extraordinary. No one cares. Im just my ordinary girlfriend's trophy boyfriend to everyone in our life.

But i wanted to share with the 2 people who actually gonna read this. In about 2005 i started watching naruto. And its intro and ending songs still hit me hard.

I want to type this out bc i will wager, in the next 50 years, no one is gonna ask.

I found ep 101 first. Naruto, sakura and saskuke trying to find out kakashis face. I loved it. I thought, ep 101. Wont be 101. Itll be season 10 ep 1 or so. Itll be the 40th episode in real life. No worries. Quick binge. Ill do it.

Turned out naruto was actually a hundred episodes to 101. Then 119 more. To finish it. Then shippuuden started. By then, i was half basic-fluent in japanese and i was 16-17-18.

And it was a journey from "no one knows what anime was in 2004" to "anime is geeky in 2010". Then i went and lived in japan. 2011-2012. Traps and bisexuality existed. Transgender femboys and so on did not. There was one androgynous person in the western world. Eagle Summers. No one else.

Now its 2023. Everyone knows anime. Memes. Tiktok. Agender transgender enby asexual poly bdsm pisskink feet-sexual mommy dommy petplay findom onlyfans armpit-licking JOI is the standard now. In 2011 i couldnt tell my school friends in school i wasnt straight. It was a different time. I envy gen Z. I also miss binging naruto on my shit laptop in my summer vacations in 2008 aged 15 while speaking bare basic japanese. I miss that time. Sad and extremely lonely but i had my crowd. Me and billy nomates. Streaming naruto on some pre-streaming websites. Me and no fandom. Me and no outsider group. Just me. Me and naruto vs the world. Things were simple.

I cant even finish shippuden ep 350-499 now.

Idk. Im tired and silly.

Naruto was a big part of my life. It got me to live in japan for a year. Dont judge. Bc there wasnt much else back then.

My naruto is your youtube. Or internet. Or lego. Idk.

[phoenixyfriend]

@gffa: If you have any MinaKushi recs, they're a forever love of mine and I would love to read them! Or really good Kakashi genfic/time travel fic, I'm always weak to fix-its. (Also, I know myself and I will read just about any "Iruka adopts Naruto early" fic that I can get my hands on. >_>)

Someone: Yeah, I'll take some Naruto fic recs. Me: [shifting into my final form]

[cracks fingers]

Phantom Pains by mapplepie - Kakashi-centric time-travel fic (Actually, this author has a few good Kakashi time-travels. It’s a Mad, Mad World is also neat, as is Just the Usual Habits.) (On AO3 as Applepie, btw)

Please Drink Responsibly When Saving the World - (Obito and Kakashi do a stupid)

Snapshots of The life and times of Hatake Kakashi, Nukenin - Kakashi trips into another dimension where he's a missing nin. Decides to be annoying about it.

A political perspective - Kakashi didn't want to pass T7 because politics, now that they HAVE passed he needs to make sure it doesn't blow up in their collective faces

The Wolf’s Song - Kakashi going through some Hatake-specific mourning rites for his father, but only as an adult

Puppies and Pack - A wild incident makes Team 7 go 'feral,' excepting Sasuke (for Sharingan reasons), and Kakashi is very intent on Caring For His Kids.

Wolves of Fire Country - Kakashi-centric, gen so far (some 70k), but supposed to get shippy later. Time-travel, he's mostly invested in caring for just-post-Wave T7.

How it’s done - technically this is a Naruto time-travel, but Kakashi's his main confidant and also technically adopts him (but knows Naruto is basically an adult, just needs some freedom of movement).

a heap of details, uncatalogued, illogical - Kakashi gets de-aged.

The Role Model and Other Unlikely Tales - Orochimaru gets de-aged, and decides Kakashi is his favorite adult.

Down Into the Dark - Team Seven explores a haunted house.

The Hokage's Will - Kakashi&Naruto time-travel

Roadwork Project - a long and heavy time-travel fic where Kakashi's PTSD makes returning to his teen years infinitely more difficult

history has its eyes on you - the other long and heavy time-travel fic where Kakashi's PTSD is just. A lot.

Bloodstained Hands in a World of White - yet another Kakashi-centric time-travel fic (I have so many of these in my bookmarks)

Ear to the Wall - Kakashi-centric time-travel fic, this one focusing on body dysmorphia caused by suddenly being Seven Years Old again (I actually haven't read this since I bookmarked it in 2020, because fandom jumping, so I don't remember the details)

Seal Shatter - Minakushi fic with an amnesia plot. Absolutely top-tier, but written in 2009, so prior to a bunch of reveals in canon.

Team Time - Modern AU but specifically from the POV of middle school teachers. I know that sounds weird but trust me when I say it's really good.

Unplanned Paternity - Kakashi, under orders from the Hokage, pretends Naruto is an Oops Baby of his own from an undercover mission abroad (along with claiming Naruto is younger than his actual age). Very much 'becoming the mask' in regards to being Naruto's dad.

Iruka at Hogwarts- I know, I know, it's a crossover with the fandom that shan't be named, and it's old enough to have some Very 2009 Fandom elements (which is when it was on ffnet, but this is the AO3 link, whichi s 2020), but it's really fun insofar as Iruka&Naruto goes.

Ghosts and Other Inconveniences - Kakashi is born being able to see ghosts, and it means he is the Most unnerving toddler.

The Skulk in the Leaves - seemingly abandoned fic but... T7 accidentally get turned into Foxes.

And other things Kakashi did not hallucinate - Rin (not dead) and Obito (also not dead) keep helping Kakashi out. He thinks he's hallucinating them from grief. Despite the opportunity to get dark, it's primarily a comedy.

Team Seven vs. Paperwork - If you read a single fic on this list, please let it be this one. It is. Amazingly funny. Several generations of Team 7, and the last one includes Iruka getting saddled with responsibilities he didn't ask for.

Second Life - Iruka is given reason to suspect he is the reincarnation of Senju Hashirama. (That's not what's happening, but he's got reason to believe it.) KakaIru, which iirc you said you enjoy.

(This one doesn't quite fall into your filters, so to speak, but I think it's got enough overlapping elements, and it's gen: Uprooted by Orrunan)

Okay so the ones below are from when I actually did a few longer lists with actual refs (mostly the Naruto Time-Travel Fic Recs list), and uh... go there for more details, especially since some are a bit older and suffer from 'standards marching on'.

Time MixUp By: Lucillia (Complete)

Four different people from four different time-lines travel to the past for various reasons, and end up in the same time-line upon which they wreak havoc. Follow the adventures of the “time traveling” Naruto, Kakashi, Jiraiya, and Tenzo.

Teach Your Children Well By: AvocadoLove (Complete)

After Madara’s final attack on the village, Rokudaime Kakashi uncovers a time-travel scroll. Now he’s Team Seven’s sensei again. And this time, he’s going to do things differently. A time travel fic

You never stray too far from your roots.  Today it’s diving back into comics fandom, next month guess who’s going to find themselves hip-deep in Naruto fandom again?  It’s going to be me and I’m going to make you all suffer.�� Once a Naruto nerd, always and forever, you can only escape for so long.

[huskymaine]

Kakashi’s Possible Sexuality

Recently I dive into my country’s forum about Naruto fandom, and the most nickname-borderline-insult that I’ve encountered about Kakashi is “Bujang (Bachelor) Kakashi”. Looking at that, I can relate the pain of a 20+ years old person who had the gall to not get married and sprouting children while living in Asia. Many people in my country wondered why Kakashi didn’t get married although he’s addicted to porn. Many people also think that he is actually gay and married to Guy after Boruto episode aired (although in mocking tone, as expected from my conservative country). 

Anyway, his lack of marriage status makes fans wonder about Kakashi’s sexuality. Who does he prefer, dudes or gals? Boobs or pecs? Now because I have no better thing to do, I’ll try to compilate every time Kakashi encounters sexual situation and how he handles them. Feel free to add other things that I’ve missed!

Icha-Icha 

First Bell Test (Icha-Icha Paradise)

Ah Icha-Icha Paradise, the iconic book for Naruto (mainly Kakashi)’s fans. We got a glimpse of Kakashi’s favorite novel in full glory on the First Bell Test, when he shamelessly reads the book in front of minors (and then getting scolded by Kurenai for it).

Unbeknownst by most people, in there we got the first clue about Kakashi reading Icha-Icha book for the plot. He mainly read the book to aggravate his children further, but he can say “this book is more interesting than you guys” or something like that. But “I just want to know what happens next” is so plot-focused, and makes me wonder since when Kakashi read Icha-Icha Paradise book, because it’s the first book of the Icha-Icha series and sounds like he read it for the first time.

Yeah he indeed enjoyed and invested by the book. I am not the type to judge people by their literature preference, so I just think it’s nice that he was having fun in a job that he doesn’t even want in the first place. At least he never shows his book on his students, the only thing they can see is a man chasing a woman and adult rating symbol. 

Naruto and Kakashi first met on Shippuden (Icha Icha Violence)

Here Kakashi reads Icha-Icha Violence, he was still hooked in Icha-Icha series even after 2+ years passed. A true porn addict will spend their time read other thing as much as they can. But the only book he was interested is another addition of Icha-Icha series. Sounds like he fell in love in Icha-Icha series XD.

Naruto is someone who tried to peek at women’s bath, developed and excited by Sexy Jutsu, I wonder what kind of erotic book that made him bored. Perhaps he just dislikes reading, and we know that he was not great at digesting complicated words. 

Second Bell Test (Icha-Icha Tactic)

Not gonna lie, at the first time I watched it as 15 years old naive kid, I shouted, “Yes, finally! Do Sexy Jutsu on him! I mean, Kakashi-sensei is pervert and you knocked out Iruka, Ebisu, Jiraiya, even Third Hokage with that technique!”

But then.....

“His weakness is spoiler. He was afraid of spoiler from a porn material. What kind of pervert is that? Plus it turns out that Naruto doesn’t know the plot of Icha-Icha (on anime). What if Kakashi doesn’t believe him, keep opened his ears and eyes, and then realize that Naruto only babbling nonsense? Using Sexy Jutsu resembles Icha-Icha protagonist will have the less risk ”

Re-watching this scene again, I am amazed by the hilarious logic of Hatake Kakashi the pervert. Who genuinely reading erotic book for plot point, for believing his cute little student’s words whom he just met after 2+ years, for bravely close his ears and eyes when his cute little students came to him with the intent to attack, the cute little students that can shatter the ground and perforate water tank.

All for the sake of avoiding spoiler XD.

Decoding Jiraiya’s message (Icha-Icha tactic)

Unlike in the anime, here we know that Icha-Icha Tactics is indeed explicit, and Kakashi was legit blushed by the sexual parts of the book. So I think Kakashi is not completely asexual, considering that he’s not truly dismissive by the sexual part of the book. And the book contains sexual parts from page 7 till page 207, damn now I want to read that book XD. 

Oiroke no Jutsu (Warning Explicit Picture Ahead)

Konohamaru Oiroke no Jutsu female

I know that in anime Kakashi once sees Konohamaru’s Oiroke no Jutsu and has nosebleed-rocket. But that segment is filler (although indeed a good one and people can freely treat it as canon if they want).

In manga though, there are 3 chance when Konohamaru uses Sexy Jutsu in front of him, and his reaction is.....

This man just too focused on his book! XD Jiraiya is clearly affected, Sakura and Tsunade is disgusted, and Naruto has no reaction because he claimed that he has the better version. But Kakashi doesn’t even spare a glance. Now it can be argued that perhaps he didn’t see it so he has no reaction (although true pervert should turn their head immediately after hearing Sexy Jutsu being shouted), but...

He also has no reaction when Konohamaru used Sexy Jutsu in front of him.

What about male version?

Konohamaru Oiroke Male version

Still has no reaction. But again, it’s weird and downright red flag if he was attracted by imagination of his 16 years old students’ naked bodies, so...

What about random men version?

Reverse Harem no Jutsu (male version)

Here Naruto’s jutsu brought almost every type of men, like beef guy Juugo-like, pretty guy, cheerful guy, shy guy, glasses guy, solemn guy, etc (with the exception of a guy with facial hair, dunno why. I don’t fancy guy with facial hair but surely some people think that facial hair is hot, right?). Again, Kakashi has no visible reaction other than shocked. Naruto’s P.O.V makes it more hilarious, because he said :

“Sexy Jutsu always seem to work well on strong people!”

Oh, it’s not like Naruto didn’t think that Kakashi is strong. He complimented Kakashi’s strength many times in the manga. But somehow in second bell test he never thinks Sexy Jutsu as possible technique to defeat Kakashi, I wonder why...

His only reaction of that Sexy Jutsu is....

Kakashi I love you and it’s sad that most people in your circle are dead but please refrain yourself from randomly talking to dead people. I know that it was supposed to be heartwarming moment but I can’t help but laugh.

Konohamaru and Naruto Oiroke competition

I truly wonder how the hell even Danzo’s agents are even affected by Sexy Jutsu. Is Sexy Jutsu that alluring? Anyway, look who ignored it and went straight to business instead..

Here Kakashi didn’t paid much attention either. He was more worried by Root’s distrust on Sai and he only showed his head under the bush after Konohamaru and Naruto dispel their Sexy Jutsu. But wait, maybe he turned his head because he was curious by Sexy Jutsu after all?

Don’t think so, because Kakashi said “were you curious about Oiroke no Jutsu? Sorry..” to Root agents, giving me impression that he didn’t care much about Oiroke no Jutsu unlike his opponents. Besides, if he turned his head immediately he would not miss it, but he was contemplating about Sai’s status in Root instead. Anyway, he missed the Sexy Jutsu but he was given the first seat of Konohamaru and Naruto’s precious bonding.

Here his face is just like a happy sensei who was glad that his student having a good time before a hard mission. He doesn’t seem to regret missing Konohamaru and Naruto’s sexy jutsu. 

Real Life Asset

Tsunade boobs

Probably the only real life experience he had, since unlike Naruto and Jiraiya he never tried to peek on women in bath.

No reaction either. He’s not attracted, not disgusted, not even paid a glance on Tsunade’s boobs. Kakashi just silently looked at Jiraiya and.... probably wondered what’s going on inside Jiraiya’s head XD. 

Conclusion :

In my opinion, I think Kakashi is demisexual, considering that in whole 700 chapters he was attracted by Icha-Icha books alone, something that he followed for years (so he’s Icha-Icha sexual?). Regardless what Kakashi Hiden novel said, he was not the type to have instant attraction toward sad woman’s eyes, even he needs more than 600 chapters to like Team 7 (Naruto is admitted earlier, probably because of MC privilege XD). According to that, he’s also not the type to change his dynamic with other people easily, if he sees someone as his friend or student, forever he will sees them as his friend/student. Of course, it doesn’t mean that it definitely can’t be changed (still less likely for student), but I think it requires tremendous efforts and times that can only be obtained in fanfics, because Kishimoto is definitely not interested at writing romance.

(Or perhaps, he was like me, only like to read smut without having attraction or desire to project ourselves into characters in the smut. In my case, I quite like reading romance, like to see kiss or/and lovebites in my media, but completely uninterested to experience it myself. In fact, I admit that I’ve read many smut fics and books but I’ve never been kissed in 20+ years of my life and kinda disgusted to imagine myself kissing someone, regardless gender).

Tl;dr : They’re all my personal opinion. In the end, he has no definite exclamation of sexual preference (unlike Naruto, Sakura, and Jiraiya) so it’s up to fans interpretation about Kakashi’s chosen partner. Who knows, maybe he likes woman/man but is just honorable enough to refrain himself from getting attracted by his kids’ jutsu and his superior’s assets.

[phoenixyfriend]

I am seized by a fatal need for courtroom ninja drama fic

But not serious courtroom drama. I'm talking Phoenix Wright style Nonsense.

(Some of this was provided by the folks over in @sloaners​‘ server, but the bulk of it was me spitballing nonsense at people who actually know the games, which I do not. I do paraphrase a few times to make it more feasible as a tumblr post/fic concept, rather than a rapidfire text conversation.)

Or one of those like. Reality TV paternity test things? But specifically in my mind the people involved in the actual paternity are a married couple and someone that joined them to be their third, and Clan Elders are throwing a fit about how the baby might not be the heir by blood! while the actual parents are like "I could not care less, this is our child, all three of us, please stop getting involved."

HashiMitoMada would be a VERY good option for the paternity nonsense, mostly because I can see Madara screeching at his own elders about how he already said Izuna would be his heir and he's not changing his mind!

Tobirama is just begging the paternity test to work faster off-screen because he's the only person with the machines to make it happen.

(Hashirama is just. Moping in a corner.)

"I just had to INVENT a paternity test that works before the birth! I had to figure out how to test amniotic fluid! If you assholes make me do something this stupid on such short notice again, I will be digging some shallow graves!" "...for who?" "I haven't decided yet."

Anyway, jumping back to like a Phoenix Wright-style murder investigation.

The victim was Danzo. Even the prosecution isn't actually that interested in making sure someone gets arrested, but they're legally obligated to do at least try. A bunch of people all acting really suspicious about who killed him. There is at least one shitty fake mustache-on-glasses disguise to provide a paper-thin alibi.

WAIT The other thing this gives us is ninjas in three-piece-suits but half of them wear the suits wrong. I’m talking mismatched buttons. The wrong way of tying their tie. Sewn-on-cufflinks. This is Naruto, for instance.

Tobirama would wear it properly, except he's rushing about in a lab coat, screaming at everyone to get out of his way because he's The Entire Forensics Team.

(This is the part where I have to confess that I have only seen the live-action movie of Phoenix Wright, as I don't game, so I just have the live action and tumblr osmosis.)

At this point, of course, we gotta ask: Who is the most Belligerent Witness And who is the Helpful™️ Witness that's super enthusiastic but entirely useless

I can see, say, Mito being a solid witness that both defense and prosecution are really thankful for.

Modern gen you have like... Sasuke and Neji are both incredibly belligerent witnesses. Neji at least is polite about it but pulls the "only answers with the absolute minimum of information."

Lee and Gai would have the over enthusiasm but forget to say actual vital testimony until pressed, and Naruto would love to help but might not be entirely sure what the case even is.

Shikamaru falls asleep when the lawyers consult their partners. Prosecution A consults Prosecution B for thirty-seven seconds, then turns around and the witness is asleep at the stand.

Tobi (as in Obito with mask) is an incredibly frustrating witness. They have to declare a recess just so all the lawyers can recover their blood pressure. "Can we please get someone up on the stand with this guy as a handler? I'm--I'm going to explode."

Gaara: Helpful. Polite. Answers with detail. Answers the spirit of the question as well as the letter. Includes more detail. That's too much detail. Gaara please stop telling us about the sounds that bones make.

His testimony just drags on forever.

Ninken can and will take the stand! Pakkun even enjoys it! Some ninken require translators.

ABURAME TRANSLATING FOR A RANDOM GIANT CENTIPEDE THAT WITNESSED A MURDER IN THE FOREST OF DEATH

There are arguments about whether or not the testimony can count since nobody else can confirm the translation except Other Aburame so how do they know the Aburame aren't part of the coverup.

"Okay, so this Danzo guy had like fifty shell companies but I think I found the route that leads back to him?" "Nah, that one goes to a guy that died eighty years ago that's still collecting pensions: his family lied and said he was still alive for the money." "Fuck!"

Also I just. I love the idea of Sasuke and Madara being the exact opposite kind of belligerent witness.

Also, Orochimaru answers with pretty much the exact kind of wording as Gaara, but where Gaara is trying to be helpful and provide detail for the sake of the case, and failing to see that it's maybe not necessary, Orochimaru just wants to see people squirm. ...similar thing happens with Sakura and Kabuto. Similar phrasing, very different energy.

I keep picturing all of Team Taka as part of Forensics and Evidence Collecting ajshakshjd

Juugo, holding up a rabbit: I found a witness.

Karin joins forensics and Tobirama nearly weeps from joy until he finds her criminal record "Shit, that was supposed to get thrown out when I turned eighteen."

Tobirama: I asked for an assistant, not a criminal. Karin: I'm on parole. Tobirama: That makes things worse. Karin: I know how to use a [concerningly advanced machine that I, a business major, cannot name]. Tobirama: ...never mind, I'm keeping you.

Karin: I know how to DNA sequence AND use LA-ICP-MS Tobirama: [weeps with joy]

Suigetsu would be great at blood splatter analysis. ...I think I read somewhere that blood spatter analysis is actually over in 'fake science that's pushed by cops and media but actually doesn't work' BUT apparently it’s in the Ace Attorney games so we’re going to ignore reality a bit. We’ve already got dogs and rabbits and centipedes as witnesses, what’s a bit of blood spatter?

He's also probably really good at cause of death stuff? Like looking at corpse and figuring out how long it took the victim to die, which blow did it, whether any damage was inflicted post-mortem, etc.

Sasuke is usually too busy playing Belligerent Witness but sometimes goes to join Taka for... uh... reasons.

Juugo: [takes the stand] Lawyer: Hey, uh, why's that Uchiha guy with him? The witness-- Judge: No, no, we need Uchiha Sasuke on hand when questioning Expert Animal Handler Juugo. Lawyer: ...why? Judge: Property damage.

(Sasuke as a work partner with Juugo, also moonlighting as a witness/suspect in Danzo's murder.)

One time they need Juugo but can't find him even though court is already in session and he said he'd be here, turns out he was lured away by Kakashi's army of dogs. Kakashi didn't notice until he turned to ask Pakkun if he could help find the missing expert.

Juugo is a decent lab assistant, I think?

Anyway.

Tobirama taking on Team Taka as his forensics team while Orochimaru is... hm... traveling the country to promote his new autobiography, which is outselling the newest Icha Icha to Jiraiya's ire.

Sloane suggested “a case where it's all the Sannin as suspects in a murder. They would be THE WORST, say... the murder of Hanzo.”

To which I suggested “The Sannin are all suspects but the people on trial are the Ame trio, maybe?”

Which garnered the response of “It could be a surprise upset IN COURT that the trio should be on trial.”

We love a court upset.

Suigetsu finds out that the cause of death was actually an entirely natural heart attack, but while he was determining this, the rest of the team and the lawyers found like eight conspiracies by Zetsu, three by Danzo, four by Orochimaru, and an entire network of nonsense by Sasori.

INO IS THE PSYCHIC. I know her thing in canon is reading minds but pls. Ino is Maya. The Spirit Medium.

Is the judge: 1. Hiruzen 2. Hashirama 3. Hagoromo 4. Mifune 5. The Daimyou

(Old dude with authority, optionally easily distracted/questionably competent. I'd have gone for impressive facial hair but only Mifune and Hagoromo have more than like... Hiruzen's weird soul patch.)

It's not a soul patch but I don't know what facial hair is called and I can't just call it a goat beard

Response commentary was as follows: The Daimyou would unfortunately be closer to the personality of the ace attorney judge, more blindly agreeing with things that sound good :joy: Hiruzen could be fun if only for the competing facial hair for a beard, yes xD Hagoromo would possibly be most buckwild tho WELCOME TO MOON COURT

I managed to get this far with like... NO idea who the judges were except “IDK maybe Kakashi?” but consider:

...HashiMada rival lawyers

Dropping over to Izuna vs. Touka for when Hashirama and Madara inevitably become suspects of something or other themselves and have to be witnesses.

(Tobirama's too busy running blood tests, Anija, let Touka handle it, she's better at people anyway.)

...Hashirama is like. Marginally more put-together than Madara, right? So that... makes him Edgeworth... somehow... That feels wrong but Madara as Edgeworth feels even more wrong.

Madara is very into screaming OBJECTION

ALSO consider: Friction when a doctor from a nearby hospital gets called in to provide expert testimony on something because Karin is like "no hey I should be the one doing this" and then she sees how cute Sakura is.

But also at some point Kakashi vs. Gai for a nonsense case. Their personalities are both VERY FUN for this sort of thing.

[prince-everhard]

Prince’s Whumptober 2020 masterpost

Gonna have links, titles, summaries, and all that jazz under a readmore because i decided to really push myself and do all 31 prompts separately. Thank you to everyone who liked and reblogged my work; your support means the world to me and makes me want to keep writing! 

multiparters here have been listed in chronological order rather than posting order for ease of reading. 

FAHC

No 1. LET’S HANG OUT SOMETIME Waking Up Restrained | Shackled | Hanging

Title: another duck joins the flock Fandom: FAHC Character(s): Geoff, Michael Rating: T Warning(s): blood, handcuffs Wordcount: 728 Summary: Or how the Fakes gained their most famous muscle. [tidied up/expanded this never-to-be-posted fahc wip for whumptober]

Naruto

No 2. IN THE HANDS OF THE ENEMY “Pick Who Dies” | Collars | Kidnapped

Title: and the worst part of waiting is the anticipation Fandom: Naruto Character(s): Team 7 Rating: T Warning(s): blood, vomit Wordcount: 951 Summary: Team Seven gets captured. [part of the whumptober au]

No 3. MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY Manhandled | Forced to their Knees | Held at Gunpoint

Title: A Teaching Moment Fandom: Naruto Character(s): Sakura, Kabuto Rating: T Warning(s): none Wordcount: 498 Summary: Kabuto makes her an offer she can’t refuse. [part of the whumptober au]

No 29. I THINK I NEED A DOCTOR Intubation | Emergency Room | Reluctant Bedrest

Title: Graduation Fandom: Naruto Character(s): Sakura, Kabuto, Rating: T+? Warning(s): blood Wordcount: 835 Summary: Kabuto has one more test before Sakura can be considered a true medic-nin. [part of the whumptober au]

No 15. INTO THE UNKNOWN Possession | Magical Healing | Science Gone Wrong

Title: Arboreal Fandom: Naruto Character(s): Sakura Rating: T Warning(s): needles Wordcount: 803 Summary: It was only a matter of time before Sakura found something that could help her escape. [part of the whumptober au]

No 9. FOR THE GREATER GOOD “Take Me Instead” | “Run!” | Ritual Sacrifice

Title: no good deed goes unpunished Fandom: Naruto Character(s): Naruto, Teuchi, Kyuubi Rating: T Warning(s): violence against children Wordcount: 972 Summary: Something goes wrong on his seventh birthday. Naruto might never be the same again.

No 26. IF YOU THOUGHT THE HEAD TRAUMA WAS BAD… Migraine | Concussion | Blindness

Title: Degradation Fandom: Naruto Character(s): Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto Rating: T Warning(s): dismemberment ment Wordcount: 187 Summary: Kakashi knows that power comes with a price.

Dragon Age

No 6. PLEASE…. “Get it Out” | No More | “Stop, please”

Title: Like Dogs Fandom: Dragon Age Character(s): Female Tabris, Shianni, Soris, Nelaros Rating: M Warning(s): implied/offscreen rape, violence against women, blood Wordcount: 1640 Summary: It was supposed to be a good thing, getting married. It wasn’t. [this is really just a love letter to the origin that fucking shooketh me]

No 19. BROKEN HEARTS Grief | Mourning Loved One | Survivor’s Guilt

Title: all’s fair but war is not without casualties Fandom: Dragon Age Character(s)/Pairing(s): Female Cousland, Alistair; ex-Alistair/Warden Rating: T Warning(s): none Wordcount: 695 Summary: Ten years after the Blight ends, Elissa Cousland runs into someone she never thought she’d see again. It, uh, doesn’t go quite as planned. [mostly canon compliant; Loghain is spared and becomes a warden]

No 11. PSYCH 101 Defiance | Struggling | Crying

Title: Duty Fandom: Dragon Age Character(s): Female Cousland, Eleanor, Bryce Rating: T Warning(s): blood, betrayal, last stand Wordcount: 633 Summary: Even without interference, history marches on. A what-if scenario if Duncan wasn’t there to recruit the Cousland. [part of iron & ash]

No 23. WHAT’S A WHUMPEE GOTTA DO TO GET SOME SLEEP AROUND HERE? Exhaustion | Narcolepsy | Sleep Deprivation

Title: To Ostagar Fandom: Dragon Age Character(s): Female Cousland Rating: T Warning(s): none Wordcount: 545 Summary: Jasmine is determined to get vengeance for her family. [part of iron & ash]

No 14. IS SOMETHING BURNING? Branding | Heat Exhaustion | Fire

Title: Consequences Fandom: Dragon Age Character(s): Female Surana Rating: T Warning(s): none Wordcount: 368 Summary: Surana helps her best friend escape the Circle, and the consequences are more than she bargained for.

No 21. I DON’T FEEL SO WELL Chronic Pain | Hypothermia | Infection

Title: Corrupted Fandom: Dragon Age Character(s): Female Mahariel, Duncan Rating: Gen Warning(s): none Wordcount: 192 Summary: It’s a long journey from the Brecilian Forest to Ostagar for someone with blight sickness.

No 31. TODAY’S SPECIAL: TORTURE Experiment | Whipped | Left for Dead

Title: Big Sister Instinct Fandom: Dragon Age Character(s): Female Hawke, Unnamed Templars Rating: T Warning(s): torture, violence against women Wordcount: 325 Summary: Marian Hawke would rather die than betray her family. She might even just get the chance to do it.

Mass Effect

No 4. RUNNING OUT OF TIME Caged | Buried Alive | Collapsed Building

Title: never forget to bury your regret (before it buries you) Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Male Shepard, Human OC Rating: T Warning(s): cave-in, blood, character death Wordcount: 450 Summary: Survival training goes south in the ICT.

No 7. I’VE GOT YOU Support | Carrying | Enemy to Caretaker

Title: First Contact Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Turian OC, Human OC Rating: T Warning(s): injuries, broken bones, vomit, vehicular crash Wordcount: 1150 Summary: Decimus isn’t ready to die, but he’s especially not ready to die on a stupid scouting mission to a stupid alien colony. [set during the First Contact War; probably not canon-compliant but idgaf]

No 18. PANIC! AT THE DISCO Panic Attacks | Phobias | Paranoia

Title: what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger (and what does makes you scarred forever) Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Female Shepard, Edi, Tali’Zorah, Garrus Vakarian Rating: T Warning(s): panic attack, open space Wordcount: 662 Summary: Shepard isn’t afraid of getting spaced. No, really. [a closer look at the geth dreadnought mission]

No 28. SUCH WOW. MANY NORMAL. VERY OOPS. Accidents | Hunting Season | Mugged

Title: Torfan Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Female Shepard, Major Kyle Rating: T Warning(s): blood, guns, drugging Wordcount: 589 Summary: How the Butcher came to be.

No 25. I THINK I’LL JUST COLLAPSE RIGHT HERE, THANKS Disorientation | Blurred Vision | Ringing Ears

Title: Rest Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s)/Pairing(s): Female Shepard, Anderson; referenced Shepard/Vega Rating: T Warning(s): blood, character death Wordcount: 1018 Summary: A father-daughter moment after they open the arms of the Citadel. [part of Alder]

No 5. WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU’RE GOING? On the Run | Failed Escape | Rescue

Title: they found you on the floor Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Female Shepard Rating: T Warning(s): alcohol, vomit, underage drinking Wordcount: 348 Summary: Like mother like daughter; Shepard deals with her trauma after Mindoir. [part of Gloria Shepard]

No 22. DO THESE TACOS TASTE FUNNY TO YOU? Poisoned | Drugged | Withdrawal

Title: there’s easier ways to die Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Female Shepard, Ashley Williams Rating: T Warning(s): DTs, vomit mention Wordcount: 368 Summary: Shepard takes a stand against her own demons. [part of Gloria Shepard]

No 17. I DID NOT SEE THAT COMING Blackmail | Dirty Secret | Wrongfully Accused

Title: you crawled up on your cross Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Female Shepard, Jacob Taylor Rating: T Warning(s): alcohol Wordcount: 645 Summary: Shepard gets a morale boost from a crewmate. [part of Gloria Shepard]

No 16. A TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, NO GOOD, VERY BAD DAY Forced to Beg | Hallucinations | Shoot the Hostage

Title: Cornered Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Garrus, Female Shepard Rating: T Warning(s): broken bones Wordcount: 1281 Summary: Garrus gets into some trouble. [part of the omega non-reaper au]

No 20. TOTO, I HAVE A FEELING WE’RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE Lost | Field Medicine | Medieval

Title: Ancient History Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Female Shepard, Garrus Rating: T Warning(s): injuries, death, self-destructive/suicidal actions Wordcount: 1223 Summary: Jane is an enigma and Garrus just wants to figure her out. [part of the omega non-reaper au]

No 8. WHERE DID EVERYBODY GO? “Don’t Say Goodbye” | Abandoned | Isolation

Title: After Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s): Garrus, Female Shepard Rating: T Warning(s): injuries, death Wordcount: 440 Summary: Jane comes for Garrus after the gangs’ assault. [part of the omega non-reaper au]

No 30. NOW WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? Wound Reveal | Ignoring an Injury | Internal Organ Injury

Title: Debt Fandom: Mass Effect Character(s)/Pairing(s): Garrus, Female Shepard, Mordin; mutual pining Shakarian Rating: T Warning(s): painkillers Wordcount: 590 Summary: After the gangs’ assault, Garrus overhears something. [part of the omega non-reaper au]

Undertale

No 13. BREATHE IN BREATHE OUT Delayed Drowning | Chemical Pneumonia | Oxygen Mask

Title: Drowning Fandom: Undertale Character(s): Toriel, Asgore Rating: T Warning(s): character death, child death Wordcount: 156 Summary: Asriel brought Chara home one last time.

[replacing no. 27] Alt 7. Found Family

Title: The Door Fandom: Undertale Character(s): Frisk, Papyrus, Sans Rating: Gen Warning(s): none Wordcount: 357 Summary: Just a little look at what could be a meeting with Gaster

Red vs Blue

No 12. I THINK I’VE BROKEN SOMETHING Broken Down | Broken Bones | Broken Trust

Title: Being a twin is a Hard Thing Fandom: Red vs Blue Character(s): South Dakota Rating: T Warning(s): psychological trauma Wordcount: 281 Summary: In the days before Wash finds them, South gets… introspective. [canon compliant? taken from a wip I was never going to finish so I fleshed it out for whumptober instead]

Original Fiction

No 10. THEY LOOK SO PRETTY WHEN THEY BLEED Blood Loss | Internal Bleeding | Trail of Blood

Title: please leave a message Rating: T Warning(s): blood Wordcount: 537 Summary: A detective’s work is never done. Antonia deals with the news that her most famous case’s subject is on the run again. [original fiction]

No 24. YOU’RE NOT MAKING ANY SENSE Forced Mutism | Blindfolded | Sensory Deprivation

Title: Secondary Location Rating: Gen? Warning(s): kidnapping Wordcount: 143 Summary: Antonia wakes up on the wrong side of the city. [original fiction]

[amitds]

Thanks for answering the ask!! About the sannin part I think they meant that introduction of characters like madara,who as kishimoto described had no weaknesses, cancelled the sannin relevance to the story and the author using sannin concept again to show sakura's equivalence was bad writing,they wanted her to have an arc to show her full power I guess!? as they were well aware of mistreatment of female characters and of the characters who are not/do not align with narugod in this series...also idk how you feel about this(because I see western sakura stans;most of them are narusakus;complaining about sakura and the other girls being underpowered)but imo naruto doesn't have/never had good storytelling so rather than being sad about sakura and my other favs' sidelining, I'd just do the selective reading and make my own headcanons, I know we rely on canon for powerscaling but there are just too many asspulls out of nowhere(I'm glad sakura didn't have one tbh and that most of her characterisation was consistent throughout the story);don't know if my thoughts make sense but thanks again for answering!! I hope I didn't waste yor time and if did I'm really sorry!

“Thanks for answering the ask!! About the sannin part I think they meant that introduction of characters like madara,who as kishimoto described had no weaknesses, cancelled the sannin relevance to the story and the author using sannin concept again to show sakura's equivalence was bad writing,they wanted her to have an arc to show her full power I guess!? .as they were well aware of mistreatment of female characters and of the characters who are not/do not align with narugod in this series...”

Oh okay well imo the sannin relevance was never cancelled because what people don’t get is that team 7 was a NEW version of them in that volume and the 3 way deadlock theme was here for a long time so the story required we get an instance of team 7 being the new gen sannin. The whole relevance thing kinda falls apart when we remember that they were a new gen sannin i.e. better and stronger. 

I do agree that Hashimada and then indra and asura ruined it for team 7 but my thing is, and I agree with you, I don’t let the bad cancel out the good so, so what if Hashirama and Madara are Gods compared to the sannin? Sakura and team 7 surpassing the sannin and making a new stronger trio in volume 66 is still amazing and worth celebrating. Heck if all 3 reached the same God level we’d still have a sannin thing going on again because the sannin are a concept of a deadlock and a Japanese rock/paper/scissors and I’m sure we’ll be seeing amore ‘relevant’ sannin version in Boruto with Mitsuki, Sarada and Boruto even though it’s not by Kishi. 

I can get mad about Sakura being left behind again while acknowledging that the new 3 way deadlock scene(s) were amazing. So no, stronger characters coming about doesn’t invalidate the sannin parallel since the sannin parallel has nothing to do with the sannin’s actual power level, but a scenario with 3 equal ninja and equal forces working together with none ever being dominant. And easy way to make this better would have been to have Sakura still help fight Obito with the boys so fans would be more accepting of the fact that she was EQUAL.

I wanted Sakura to have treatment like an actual main, as well. Though I disagree that the sannin parallel was irrelevant. I however wanted a Mito, Hashirama and Madara parallel like the sannin one to come about but sadly, it never did and well the boys become Indra and Asura 2.0 so Sakura was pushed out completely. 

 “..also idk how you feel about this(because I see western sakura stans;most of them are narusakus;complaining about sakura and the other girls being underpowered)but imo naruto doesn't have/never had good storytelling so rather than being sad about sakura and my other favs' sidelining, I'd just do the selective reading and make my own headcanons, I know we rely on canon for powerscaling but there are just too many asspulls out of nowhere(I'm glad sakura didn't have one tbh and that most of her characterisation was consistent throughout the story);don't know if my thoughts make sense but thanks again for answering!! I hope I didn't waste yor time and if did I'm really sorry!”

I somewhat agree however imo it’s not strictly that the girls are underpowered, it’s more so that they do not get opportunities to shine and show what they are capable of. Kaguya was the strongest character, Sakura was on par with EMS Sasuke and KCM Naruto, Tsunade was equal to the other sannin and Temari was stronger than most of her gen with Mei being a kage of comparable power to Gaara (from my interpretation of the 5 kage vs Madara fight). 

The powerscaling comment wasn’t really against you or any fan, rather, it was against people do deny clear standards set. Like Kishi making it clear that Tsunade = Orochimaru = Jiraiya and Seal Sakura = EMS Sasuke = KCM Naruto are not up for debate and me thinking EMS Sasuke’s blaze release is OP and badass and leagues above Sakura’s punching DOES NOT alter these facts. Unlike FT, Naruto’s power scaling isn’t that bad. Most of the ‘asspulls’ are Gods coming or ghosts coming and handing power to people and I do agree that Sakura not being included in that was great. She was the only team 7 member who never had power handed to her literally, vs Kaguya. They had to asspull a ghost for Kakashi to get power similar to God Sasuke and this is after Kakashi was sad about Sakura helping but not him and after he said him and Sakura would still try to help even though they’re not Gods. It was shit writing.