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I was just complaining about Dandadan fans being weirdly against shipping but after seeing the BNHA fandom's behavior uh. i get it now.
#bnha spoilers /#i though it was kind of a joke that bakudeku shippers were delusional but i did not know they were that serious goddamn#accusing horikoshi of 'ruining ochako's development' and 'only making it canon to appease the dudebros'#do... do bkdk's realize they also engaged in bullying and online harassment?#and horikoshi has been hinting at deku and ochako's relationship since the start#i'm not really going to be like 'oh why would deku fall for his bully' since horikoshi weirdly makes deku a little too forgiving imo#its just more like. nothing those two have done together indicates romance. it indicates a genuine platonic bond but not romance#also. do people know they can just. ship noncanon ships? you mean to tell me yall were shipping bakudeku EXPECTING IT to be canon????
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I’m a firm platonic stonathan believer (and romantic but that’s not what this post is about).
And I love Steve and Jonathan being really friendly albeit awkward with each other.
But you know what I absolutely LOVE?
Stonathan who can’t STAND each other.
But would also go to fucking war for each other.
Some asshole is being a prick to Jonathan in school? The dudes suddenly thrown off of every sports team he’s on and the principal is fully aware of every time he cheated on a test. Steve just so happens to be at the high school that day to pick up the kids.
There’s some dickwad giving Steve a hard time at work every day? The guys windshield is busted in and car’s been keyed. Jonathan was totally just stopping by Family Video for a movie at the same time.
It’s just so funny to me. The idea of them both putting on this kind of mask around the whole group where everyone thinks they’re at least friendly with each other— the awkwardness is a given, honestly.
But then when it’s just them— getting high together or smth idk— they trade insults that would have anyone else in a ball crying.
And then them both slowly coming out of their shells around the whole group.
And the first time it happens Steve had called Jonathan a home wrecker and in turn Jonathan called Steve a whore.
Everyone was flipping shit trying to make them both apologize to each other before another fight broke out. But Jonathan and Steve sat and laughed at them.
Nobody ever gets used to their bitter teasing towards each other (nobody’s ever heard Jonathan use such foul language) but they learn to accept that that’s just how they are with each other.
This is kinda like a begrudging sibling-bonded stonathan.
This is also how I imagine madwheeler being btw. But I’ll make them their own post eventually.
#stranger things#steve harrington#jonathan byers#stonathan#but platonic#sibling bonds#they trade insults more creative then a middle schooler with a ban on swearing#and that’s saying something because they’re friends with mike wheeler#and eddie munson#but eddie’s allowed to swear#will is shook to his very core to hear jonathan say some of the stuff he says#nobody knew steve could be so mean#eddie finds it hot#nancy id attracted to jonathan in a whole new light#as is argyle#cause I like jargyle and jancy both
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I offer to you the ship of Roland Cummings, Delphine Cummings, and Charlie Dowd that has been absolutely rotting my brain and is ripe for Charlie angst. I talk about them a bit here in which I discuss multiple Charlie ships but I must spread the propaganda of them o7
Ohhhhhh despite not really being Roland/Noel girlie I can indeed see the appeal 👀
#and with this lovely art too? tempting#ask#also read your post- YOUCH#Potatolord Charlie relationship headcanon time-#he had one sided feelings for Finley that he was really sure what to do with#stayed platonic with Roland. although he probably opened up about his sexuality to him.#and roland took that as an opportunity to try and set him up with any queer man he came across#and Collins hmmmmmm…. they were probably friends with benefits you’re right about that#likeee did Charlie let me get away multiple times ‘on accident’ even tho he was so close to catching him? For sure#he won’t tell ya how that happened tho#and ourthurrrrr ougggghhhhhsjsjsj#I could absolutely see him trying to take a more passive role in the relationship#like he lets the others have time with eachother and he doesn’t push back whenever one of them interrupts some one on one time#except……… I think Oscar is much more in tune with Charlie than the other two. and vice versa. like they Get eachother much the same way#John and Arthur Get each other. Charlie’s relationship with jarthur is definitely more rocky and a learning curb. but I think if it#came down to it. Oscar would be with Charlie no matter what. cus yes Arthur loves Oscar. but not the same way Oscar loves him. and Charlie#provides Oscar with that romantic bond he’s looking for#WOAH SORRY I rambled too damn MUCH#I’ll take my LEAVE
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if i see one more post about how solas/mythal/elgar'nan had a weird love triangle thing going on i'm gonna scream
#probably gonna annoy some people by saying this#but i think it is really telling that taash's response 'they were doin' it'#is positioned in a way that strongly implies it's the immature response to take#not to say i'm 100% right bc they left it deliberately vague for a reason#you're meant to make up your own mind#and i personally do not see this as a stupid love triangle bc a. i fucking hate love triangle plots they're overdone and boring#and b. it's stated multiple times that the ancient elves felt things in different ways that can't be fully understood by mortals#so deducing that it was a romantic bond is an oversimplification of something that's actually very abstract#falon'din and dirthamen were called both twins and lovers by legends but it turned out to be neither of those things#they were just one spirit split into two#the only two that i think were actually romantically involved were ghil and andruil bc it's stated that they fell in love in the abyss#and there are statues of them naked holding hands apparently#we didn't get enough info about sylaise and june to really say much about their relationship#the actual regret memory of solas and mythal meeting in secret#is the memory that the inquisitor gives to rook#and it appeared after the ritual was interrupted and solas killed varric#when varric told him to stop#when varric expressed his love for his friend and died for it#the parallel is not of lovers but of solas taking mythal's place and varric taking his#ugh i'm just so uncomfortable with the solas/mythal romance stuff#like it actually nauseates me#not out of jealousy but bc his whole story is him dealing with the horrific trauma bond he formed with her#and those are so often borne from family bonds#like mythal is just one big mother wound to solas#i honestly think if they were lovers they would just state it as such#but people have a hard time imagining devotion as being anything other than romantic ig#sad bc platonic relationships can sometimes be more intense than romantic ones
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#this question is very hard for me to answer so obviously I have to torment everyone else with it#cause like. like I can really see the potential in either answer. both are feasible#I will say. most realistically. to me. edwin first charles harder#because I think…..I think the reasoning behind the other way around usually tends to be about how edwin absolutely was slower to bond and#open up in general whereas charles hit the ground fucking running#but i don’t think that particularly applies to their romantic relationship#if you mean ‘fell for’ in a general sense rather than a romantic one then yes 100%#but that’s not what im talking about here#I have a few different reasons but generally I think edwin fell first because like… the way he attached himself to charles and accepted him#as his person and etc is so unlike him to do with literally anyone- especially at the point where they first met/the first years they knew#each other. charles just seems to have hit him as something very very special and irreplaceable quite quickly for him to open up the way he#did and change and flourish into a fully realized person because of how safe and worthy charles made him feel#he took to charles with an unusual amount of ease and trust and I think that says something about how charles struck his heart Early#whereas with charles… yes on one hand he did stay on the mortal plane largely because of edwin and absolutely would’ve been impacted by the#tender act of mercy that was edwin reading to him as he died so he wouldn’t be scared. that’s absolutely what got him to trust edwin and to#want to be with him and protect him and so on#but charles would still do that and be like that under intense platonic circumstances I think#but most importantly I just think charles fell harder. when he fell is less important to me here- more important is that by GOD that boy is#down so fucking bad and outright SAYS IT in so many ways that he doesn’t realize– the sheer amount he restates how he’s content so long as#he’s with edwin. how he doesn’t want to be anywhere where edwin can’t follow. would and Did go to hell and back for him. believes him#to be the kindest and most incredible person he’s ever met. prioritizes him above anything and everything. etc etc etc#that’s not to say edwin doesn’t feel a similar amount of devotion– but charles just. really loves him with his whole person. loves him as a#fact of his existence and a piece of his very soul#idk man. it just feels like he is so incredibly smitten and he doesn’t even know it.#like I said though I can see both options and give reasons for both options so this question EATS at me I GENUINELY don’t have a super#strong feeling either is absolutely correct. it’s so difficult to answer they’re both so smitten and have such a history and GRAHHHH#payneland#dead boy detectives#rambling#polls
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Thoughts on Padmé x Anakin x Rex?
Padmé and Anakin are so mutually obssesed they would first have to check into that before trying to bring another person to their carefully-balanced-kind-of-damage or something it's going to explode.
Honestly it's a fun ship! But I don't have too many thoughts about them because when I consider them is usually in very low-stakes-fun-AU-scenarios.
And I'm actually a bit of a fan of Rexwalker myself! Athough I tend to like them more as very good buddies, the covering-for-you-dynamic it's so funny for them, lol It's also angsty and complicated because, y'know, the power-imbalance and unchecked trauma? Is funny that the clone that's actually a slave for the republic is the most normal if you bring him into the anidala romance circus.
Also shout out to @phoenixyfriend , she has a lot of rexanidala fics and recs for anyone interested reading this!
#I have rexwalker wips somewhere in my endless wips folder although im generally very lazy to draw or care about ships unless i REALLY dig it#which is why you see me mostly drawing anidala despite the fact I do actually have lots of ships i like/consider#anakin is such a strange character he's hard to ship around bc look at him his social circle consists of 4 ppl#and padme's impressive social circle are her coworkers and her decoys#which is impressive bc SW has SO MANY characters lol#also sorry i ramble a lot just to answer 'it's a fun one'#thanks for the ask!#rexanidala#anakin is also such an anxious and intense guy he would need a LOT of talking and reassurance and stuff#bc otherwise he would feel guilty as hell like the three of them could have agreed to it and he probably would feel like he's cheating LOL#the thing with rexanidala which is the most interesting to me to wonder about is how padmé got into rex#she's actually a very closed person and part of the reason she fell for anakin that hard was over mutual trauma bonding#so i wonder i wonderrrr#but also generally the thing with me is that i tend to lean more into non-romantic dynamics and platonic stuff believe it or not#so if you see me doing lots of art for a ship (like anidala) it must be bc i really love them both otherwise i'm more into family or#complicated relationships stuff probably because i'm aroace and a ship must have some incredible complex thing going on for me to care#with rexanidala the biggest brownie points it gets to me is all the AU possibilities the ANGSTY AU possibilities bc it would change A LOT
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you guys remember when barry said this abt bruce
#danbles#dc#barry allen#the flash#bruce wayne#batman#batflash#flashpoint paradox#i love how i write their relationship timeline as barry going from hero worship crush to platonic autism besties#bitch you still have feelings 💀#i’m exaggerating btw barry would think their friendship is more than enough#but i like seeing how that initial crush still influences barry’s perspective even after he’s moved on#barry rambling to bruce abt his fav forensic techniques and calling him ‘the greatest detective he’s even known’#hal referring to bruce and barry’s ‘late nights at the lab together’#BARRY WISTFULLY CALLING BRUCE THE JAMES BOND OF SUPERHEROES#my guy. you are not subtle
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Ok but what if Ephemer’s and Player’s hearts are like literally connected (really really literally)
Maybe like, small pieces of each other heart being traded, or i guess other magical ways
So if the theory of Sora being the third reincarnation of the player.. (even tho I don’t like this theory cause both deserves to have their heart, specifically Sora with his heart hotel moments)
Maybe thats how Ephemer soul showed up in KH3? Cause the connection to player that stayed within Sora, this theory pretty common right?
And if thats works one way, could also go the other way no?
Ephemer summoning the Player’s soul with the hearts connection. Maybe even unintentionally, suddenly poof the player is there as a ghost!
Sounds like interesting angst. Maybe thats would be also like.. why the player took pretty long to reincarnated to missing link area cause Ephemer was still around so Player’s soul tied up to his heart.
#ephelayer#i guess?#I really just see them as platonic soulmates#cause boi they bonded to be friends real fast#like we had more time with skuld but its wasnt the some bond that we hate with Ephemer that disappeared real quick#player#ephemer#if Sora isnt player 3 then player 3 could be just some random npc having peaceful life hopefully#and just them existing around kh3 time will be enough for the connection with Ephemer to get his ghost to show up#i kinda really want daybreak trio to reunite#subject x is probably skuld#just gotta summon from the past ephemer’s heart#and player if they ain’t any existing character yet#they could be like Xiao with non fixed look#or like some magic that no one remember their appearance so they wont have any canon one#or just add avatar dress up just for the player lol#i really really wanna player stay their own character pls#kh#khux#khml#theory#again#went to plat KH games but my comfort game is 3D#made me think about khux again#kh ephemer#khml player
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Unfinished comic that I’ve bee sitting on for literally over two years. Anyways when you and the bestie have a complex situationship that very quickly spirals into something so agonizingly one sided (unless….? 😳)
#genzen#zengen#genya shinazugawa#zenitsu agatsuma#demon slayer#kimetsu no yaiba#dude my girlfriend and I literally went fucking insane over yesterdays episode#we genuinely have been frothing at the mouth airing for this episode to be animated for literally like five years#genzen nation this is what we’ve been waiting for.#rise up.#*crickets*#I’ve been seeing a few people on twitter talking abt them in nthis episode hopefully genze finally gets it’s just desserts#I pray to god we get more people into this ship I need it I need it in my blood I need it I my veins#my girlfriend and I were sitting there beating each other to death the entire episode they showed up on screen next to each other#we felt nothing but genuine pure unbridled insanity#anyways a bit of lore for some of our au we’ve been cookin#genya and zenitsu both mutually have a crush on tanjirou but they both know he’s way too out of their league#so they end up forming a bit of a semi codependent bond on one another for comfort and helping each other through various other aspects#of extreme mental illness 💀#they both also end up developing feelings for one another but genya is too stubborn to admit that he could ever like zenitsu#zenitsu is more open to the idea of being romantically attracted to genya#he oftentimes tries to do things under the guise of their preestablished situationship#but it’s really him pretending that he and genya are doing things together like a genuine couple#and he ends up getting his feelings hurt every time bc genya ultimately rejects the idea of it being anything beyond platonic
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I think the theme of "home", while not always in the forefront, is something that interests me about the Sonic Movie Universe (in a similar way it interested me during Prime)
For Movie!Sonic, home is where you make it first and where your family is second. After his guardian died, he presumably jumped from place to place, and it was a while before he had a stable home. He made himself a home on earth and fell in love with the land and the culture. But you get the sense that as long as he's in hiding and ostracized all the time, it never fully feels like home. So it's important that he got to really experience earth and living in Movie 1 with Tom. It's important that he made earth his home, and then made the Wachowski household his base. No matter where he goes on earth and beyond, he has a family he chose and who chose him he can come back to and be himself around. "Home" for Movie!Sonic began with necessity, progressed due to his growing attachment to earth and what it offers, and fully settled in with him having a more permanent place in this world and support.
For Movie Tails, I surmise that "home" to him is where Sonic is. He was ostracized (possibly even bullied/picked on) back home for his two tails. After listening to some of his lines in movie 2, Tails read to me like a character who'd been treated as weird or an outcast and ended up isolating himself as a result. I got the impression that when he wasn't indulging in his love of technology/mechanics (or perhaps even at the same time) he was holed up in his base, watching a live stream of Sonic and his adventures, even after the conclusion of the first movie's events. He knows everything about Sonic, down to knowing that he doesn’t take showers, before even meeting him properly. Tails is not at home on earth nor particularly entranced by earth itself (in opposition to Sonic, who became entranced with it). He only even goes there to warn Sonic and to help him out. But Sonic's place—Sonic's home—is on Earth, in Green Hills, with Tom and Maddie, and Tails has formed an actual bond of friendship with the hedgehog he formed a possibly parasocial relationship with used to watch on a screen. Before, I think Tails was just content with watching or being helpful. But now? Now that he's spent time with Sonic, Sonic makes him feel normal. Sonic makes him feel like even "weirdos" can do great things. Sonic makes him feel valued. He's no longer content just watching because Sonic is more his home than the place he grew up in ever was. Home to him is with the people you choose, the people who make you feel at home, the people you want to be around. The Wachowski household is Sonic's home because he loves earth, green hills, and because he has mutually taken Tom and Maddie as his parents. Earth and the Wachowski household are only Tails' home as long as Sonic is there.
And for Knuckles... He has the set up to fall in love with earth in a similar way Sonic did. He grew up/was born in a similar place to him. And yet, all of the beautiful nature on earth doesn't matter to him. Knuckles, as of the beginning of the Knuckles series, had adopted a different approach to Sonic. Sonic tried to make home for himself wherever he could, no matter how many worlds he'd jumped to. In contrast, Knuckles never bothered to do this. He only pursued the mission, never bothering to make a home when he'd be off to the next world soon enough (especially if it seemed trivial in the face of his life's mission). And it's pointed that although he's able to participate in what earth offers the same way Sonic is in movie 1 (Knuckles learning how to bowl or Sonic going to a bar), he is not at home because of those things. He's able to slow down and appreciate what earth offers, the same things he couldn't bring himself to acknowledge before, and yet he's not at home on earth because it's beautiful or because it has food he likes or whatever. He very pointedly makes a connection with Wade and his family. The Whipple family is home. Not the earth, not even the house itself. He feels comfortable when with them, he enjoys the time on earth he spends with them, and he is able to appreciate Earth better when he experiences it with them (in contrast to Tails, who never had any sort of arc of appreciating what one can experience on earth to me). Home to Knuckles isn't easily quantifiable (more of a feeling really), but it’s about the people who make you feel at home. It's about the people who helped him relax and feel more comfortable not always putting his focus into the mission.
Sonic, who can make home anywhere, who always appreciated what was great about living on earth, and whose "home" was finally made permanent when he spent time with Tom and Maddie.
Tails, who never truly felt home until he spent time with Sonic, who doesn't particularly care for what earth has to offer, whose home is wherever Sonic is.
Knuckles, who never allowed himself to feel at home or tried to make a home until he began to travel with Wade and open up to new experiences, who began to enjoy earth and yet considers his home with the Whipple family specifically.
Sonic would protect the earth he lives on even if everyone he cared about was gone. Tails would protect the earth he lives on so long as it's Sonic's home. Knuckles would protect the world he lives on not just to keep the master emerald secured, but so long as this place is home to the Whipple family, with whom he enjoys experiencing Earth with.
Do you... Do you get me?
#sonic the hedgehog#knuckles the echidna#tails the fox#miles tails prower#unbreakable bond#sontails#sonic wachowski#knuckles whipple#knuckles series#sonic movie#knuckles 2024#sonic movie 2#knuckles series spoilers#knuckles 2024 spoilers#i just be ramblin#essay time#Sorry I'm just consumed with thoughts I'm emotional#it gets to me that what home is to Knuckles' borrows both from Sonic and Tails' experiences in different ways#And yeah while I do feel like saying 'Knuckles' home is the whipple family' is a bit eh reductive or a copout in a way‚ in the end I enjoy#that they are his home‚ but not in the same way the Wachowskis are to Sonic while not fully in the way Sonic is to Tails#Although all in all I actually am against the idea that Knuckles is in a nuclear family situation with the Whipples in a similar way I'm#against Tails's home with Sonic being reduced to 'so sibling behavior haha'#and with that being said‚ I tagged that one ship only to make it clear that I do not mean the Tails bit in a sibling way#But at the same time I am also not reducing Tails' home to romance either. It's more atypical or queerplatonic. Not siblings but not simply#just romantic but not necessarily solidly platonic. That's my stance. My other stance is that sontails fans should also be allowed to have#fun with the idea of movie Tails' arc and specific actions being interpreted in a romantic fashion😂#Anyways yeah
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hm. i do not like chilshi 🤔
#sylph.txt#everyone likes to joke abt how much of an epic divorce man chilchuck is#but i dont think he ever even refers to her as his ex-wife. i could b wrong bc it's been a while since i read it tho#idk a lot of his arc is him learning to b more open w others (which is essentially what ended his relationship)#and u can see how much he's grown in the chapter where senshi goes into his past#to me it would b a lot sweeter for him to take on these lessons and go back to her and make things work#it's been 4 years but he's remained loyal to her depite their issues. idk to me it rlly does feel like he still loves her he's just a fool#it's made p clear that he's a coward and that he's quick to run away so actually committing to her would b a nice way to wrap things up#we don't get to see much of his wife so i get y ppl r quick to put him w the only other man in the party#but like senshi knows abt his wife too like i do not think he's gnna b making any moves here bc he has morals lmao#(*only other older man in the party. laios doesn't qualify for old man yaoi to most chilshi likers)#(even tho chilchuck isn't old either but shh they don't care abt that)#when it comes to senshi the changeling chapter def helped him w understanding how old the rest of the party is#but he clearly still views them as significantly younger than him#i don't think he views chil as a child anymore but for the majority of their time together he did#and so going from that to in a relationship is uhh rlly weird to me!#senshi has always taken a sort of parental role upon himself#w him romance is no where as interesting as the platonic bonds he has w the rest of the party#similar to how romance is entirely unimportant to izutsumi in the succubus chapter#idk i def don't hate the pairing and there r some takes on it that i find funny#but for me i just don't see anything between them i think ppl just want an m/m ship to play with#that ao3 gap is only gnna get bigger lmao
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im gonna sleep soon but aaauuhguug bespren acquired + angry norton . hi milo @ttimecode
#(well. every oc my friends make are my friends! but we talked a lot abt them today hehehe)#and i love. everything we came up witu so far#reynold is like probably a big brother figure to her but they're definitely friends wwwiiiwii#he reassures her in a lot of things she doubt on and maybe its by experience or knowing his way around things that makes him so reliable#hes like. a smart. quiet man until she teases about his husbands and he EXPLODES nyeehhdhfhehehe#anyways they bond over tea hehehehe she likes tea time with mr berceuse#(I hope i SPELT THAT RIGHT)#anyway. thank u for the talk milo i really enjoyed that talk i love them so muchhhhh#~ art#everyone point at milo i got distracted from drawing other works (NOT SCHOOL DW) and he made me draw the handsome piano man!!😤😤😤 HUWAHAA#ANYWAHS WAAAGHSHASSHDH HOPING TO TINKER ABT HER MORE💚💚💚💚💚💚#irene constantine.oc#reynold.plat#<- fuck it. platonic tag. WEGH#milo tag
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anyway i need to hang out with my brother again he is the one person who i am pretty sure knows literally everything about me so he's the only person i trust that i can absolutely not disappoint. nothing i can do could be worse than the sum of everything i've been doing to that poor man (and him to me) the past 19 years
#especially now that im back into literally the only interest we actually share on a deep enough level to enjoy it together LOL#i mean we were also both into hannibal but thats just not an enjoyable show to watch together its too much effort#but wow that time we read das boot slash fanfic on the bus together that was awesome#and the time we wrote fanfic together lol LITERALLY WHY DID WE STOP#he has only gotten cooler and more comfortable with his gayness since then we need to write fanfic again ‼️#anyway i feel sorry for every person in my life but i dont think anyone ill ever know could ever have as close a relationship to me as him#were platonic soulmates lol but like not in the spiritual sense bc its pretty obvious that its not some supernatural bond#its juuuust shared trauma haha and the fact that our trauma is so complex and layered that only we will ever truly understand each other#there has been a really rough patch where we practically did not talk for 4... 5? whole years im serious. maybe on the weekends sometimes#while we were stewing in our own shit. but now were inseperable i think it actually pisses off the rest of our family because every time#theres some event where we meet again (we live like 5 hours apart) we only hang around for like an hour before we get in his car#and drive somewhere and hang out there for the rest of the day and night and only return at like 3am drunk#in a sense i guess were catching up on all the missed time#to be honest we both had some horrible shit going on in our heads me with the transgenderism and toxic relationship#him with his anger issues and (what he calls) psychopathy. like ill say this much he was not a good person as a child he was a devil#he was quite literally what some describe as born evil like u know those satans spawns kids that cut off babys fingers and dissect rabbits#all that yk. and i was his first and most frequent victim due to availability lol and my parents did not know any of it and if they did#they ignored it. so yeah u can imagine the relationship was a little strained and for a long time i lived in fear of him#also due to all the death threats and attempts on my life HAHA its kinda funny because i can say all this all detached now#but i think to anyone else this sounds mad as hell. like im not talking roughhousing or being mad at each other#he was always scarily calm and hyperintelligent he was actually diagnosed with some form of like super high intelligence that#makes kids capable of being really manipulative and thats what he used at every turn. everything was always calculated that was scary#if he was nice to me i would question if he was trying to lure me somewhere to hurt me yk?#anyway. sometimes those old thoughts come back when were hanging out alone but mostly i know hes changed and worked on himself#sorry oversharing oh wow
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Reading Buster Wilde has me craving irl gay friends, and also to be a loving, chaotic wolf/dog man.
#howling#<- esp appropriate#I have lesbian and transfem friends! and I love them sm#but i crave a friend more like me ig#i crave the kinda that buster has with his little friend group by the end of the comics#very friendly but not entirely platonic either#what im saying is someone should pierce my ears for fun late at night and we are bonded
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Remindee that Mike's arc has to do with both Will AND El.
It is not going to be "revealed who it's been about this whole time". No. It is about both of them. Both together and individually.
Romantic love and the inherent payoff that comes with it does not function as a reveal for the overall meaning of the show for him. His love for El is still VERY pertinent.
To separate them in case you don't understand:
A) It's about his struggle with his queerness and feelings for his best friend while in a relationship and a homophobic town, torn and repressing until he learns that that IS something he can have.
B) His first love who grants him deep understanding and teaches him how to love and communicate and that love can survive anything, including a change in nature, and that a true lover always was also a friend and can also be your friend after they are your lover and continue to grant you that understanding because romance does not dictate closeness and you can keep that understanding and love. Things can change and YOU can change and still be worthy and emotionally safe and supported.
He is safe in his identity and he is safe in his personality. And these arcs with these people are not only coexistent but complementary and MUST both exist.
ALSO, it is a wonderful testament to lack of codependency in a relationship and showing via these arcs fulfilled in different places that YOU can be fulfilled in different places and be validated in different ways by different people rather than pressuring one person to be everything for you. His relationship with Will does not erase everyone else in his life from pertinence and so it certainly does not erase El.
Put this in the tags but loved it too much so:
Will validating that Mike is incredibly loved and doesn't HAVE to change and El validating that Mike is incredibly loved and thus is ALLOWED to change >>>>>>
Both are equal and good and not easily done by the same person at the same time! So this is PERFECT. I'm obsessed.
#hot take: el is still the first person to truly grant him that understanding because he never had to take that risk before of talking to#someone who had not gone through the same thing at the same time#and it wasn't until season 2 that his relationship with will really deepened in that way#when he sought out that understanding he now knew that he wanted because he got it from el in a relationship that had previously been more#(appropriately) fun and childish even with common hard experiences#elmike analysis#byler analysis#narrative arcs#elmike <3#platonic elmike#elmike breakup#but in like an I treat like I'll treat the Byler kiss way because it gives THEM the happiness WITH each other they deserve#EL STAYING THROUGH THIS IS GONNA SHOW HIM THAT IT IS OKAY TO CHANGE FROM WHO SHE LOVED WHEN THEY FIRST MET AND SHE WILL STILL LOVE HIM AND#PEOPLE WILL STILL LOVE HIM EVEN IF HE IS EXTREMELY VULNERABLE OR SHOWS SOMETHING NEW ABOUT HIMSELF OR CHANGES 😭#willel really said mike love yourself or we'll do it for you#willel bonding rather than competing over their love of mike truther#character arcs#i might cry this is such a beautiful arc for him and so relatable#stranger things#mike wheeler analysis#elmike#byler
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the writing fanfic to "huh? this doesn't seem like how romance is normally written" to "am i somewhere on the aro spectrum" to "oh god the reason i dont identify w the generic aro label is bc i need a microlabel" to "fuck i need to rewrite this whole fic" pipeline
#mimin trying to write#anyway i discovered the microlabel platoniromantic#which means you cant tell the difference between romantic and platonic love#genuinely never understood why and how people differentiated between romance and strong platonic love#wym you dont want to marry your close friends and kiss them and cuddle them and give them everything you have#no its not romance in the normal sense bc i feel the same way for multiple of my friends at once and if they hv other ppl im not jealous#unless it means they have less time for me#like??? marriage is still necessary bc you do not do this with normal friends. but its not romance?????????#anw tbh ive always headcanoned hestio as being on the aroace spectrum but wtv it is its not platoniromaticism#gg to throw that on him anw tho bc i want romance in this story somehow for The Themes#and its not like i know how to write romance any other way. or i wouldnt have gone down this rabbit hole to begin with#sorry bud!#anyway i guess ill be thinking about how to bring ephael into this#me writing tes/hes the whole time and being like scratches head where is ephael#does not seem right to write so much about hestio loving tesilid and vice versa but not exploring their bond w ephael at all#bc what is the difference...........#but ephael is so hard to write...... idk what goes on in his head...........#hestio is more straightforward his brain is not as twisty#sorry for the sudden personal crisis on my fandom blog#hestio's now a vehicle for me to explore myself i guess. sends him flying kisses youre my OC now#the good thing about small fandoms is that you dont have to care about mischaracterisation as much ig#also the bad thing abt small fandoms is that if you mischaracterise a char you actually will never find out. cries
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