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We aren't thinking machines that feel; rather, we are feeling machines that think.
Antonio Damasio
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Book of the Day - Descartes’ Error
Today’s Book of the Day is Descartes’ Error, written by Antonio Damasio in 2005 and published by Penguin Books. Antonio Damasio is a Portuguese-American researcher, neuroscientist, and author. He is currently the David Dornsife Chair in Neuroscience, as well as a Professor of Psychology, Philosophy, and Neurology, at the University of Southern California, and an adjunct professor at the Salk…
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“...most students reported a state of total involvement in what was being taught, he would rate the moment “inspired.” The inspired moments of learning shared the same active ingredients: a potent combination of full attention, enthusiastic interest, and positive emotional intensity. The joy in learning comes during these moments. Such joyous moments, says University of Southern California neuroscientist Antonio Damasio, signify “optimal physiological coordination and smooth running of the operations of life.”
Damasio, one of the world’s leading neuroscientists, has long been a pioneer in linking findings in brain science to human experience. Damasio argues that more than merely letting us survive the daily grind, joyous states allow us to flourish, to live well, and to feel well-being. Such upbeat states, he notes, allow a “greater ease in the capacity to act,” a greater harmony in our functioning that enhances our power and freedom in whatever we do. The field of cognitive science, Damasio notes, in studying the neural networks that run mental operations, finds similar conditions and dubs them “maximal harmonious states.” ― Daniel Goleman, Social Intelligence: The New Science of Human Relationships
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Antonio Damasio – Olan Biteni Hissetmek (2024)
Yenilikçi bilimsel düşünme şekli ve net ifade biçimiyle tanınan Antonio Damasio, bu kitabında en derinlerde yatan soruları ve yanıtlarını ele alarak bilinç konusuna yeni bir anlayış getiriyor: Ne bildiğimizi nasıl biliyoruz? Bilinç kazanmış insan zihninde benlik algısı nasıl oluşuyor? Beyin hasarı bulunan hastalara yıllar boyunca çareler sunan yetenekli tıp doktoru Damasio, ‘Descartes’ın…
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Emoções: aliadas ou adversárias?
Neste texto, exploramos a influência das emoções na nossa vida e como podem, em alguns casos, nos sabotar. Com base nas ideias do Dr. Antonio Damásio, discutimos a diferença entre emoções primárias e secundárias e como elas nos afetam.
Prefere ouvir? Dê o play! Você já se perguntou como suas emoções afetam as escolhas que fazemos diariamente? Ou como, em certas ocasiões, as emoções parecem nos desviar do que realmente queremos? As emoções são parte essencial de nossas vidas. As emoções estão presentes em cada diálogo, cada decisão, cada interação que temos. Elas influenciam nosso comportamento e a maneira como interpretamos…
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Bazı nörolojik durumlarda olduğu gibi, duygu akıl yürütme sürecinden tamamen dışlandığında, aklın, duyguların kararlarımız üzerinde kötü oyunlar oynadığı zamanlara kıyasla daha da kusurlu olduğu görülür.
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I feel, therefore I am
Leading neuroscientist António Damásio speaks on human consciousness May 11, 2023
"Consciousness, the recognition of the self and awareness of oneself in one’s surroundings, is a process scholars have long struggled to understand. Because scientists have historically regarded reason as a virtue of value, while viewing emotion as less dignified, people were desperate to believe that consciousness is housed in the brain’s highest form of thinking."
"Damásio’s top-bottom understanding of consciousness poses implications for our understanding of AI machine limitations like ChatGPT. The chatbot can produce written work—like essays, short stories, and poems—at a moment’s notice, leading some to argue that it can functionally replace human creative writers. As Damásio argues, consciousness arises from feeling, and our ability to feel is intrinsic to the production of literature. How, then, can an unfeeling and unconscious entity actually portray the human experience as it is? It may explain why ChatGPT passed many rigorous exams with flying colors, except for two: English language and literature.
“Do you need consciousness for language? No,” Damásio said. “But in order to use language consciously, in order to use it creatively, we definitely need to be conscious.”
READ MORE https://dailynexus.com/2023-05-11/i-feel-therefore-i-am-leading-neuroscientist-antonio-damasio-speaks-on-human-consciousness/
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«La idea cartesiana de una mente incorpórea puede haber sido muy bien la fuente –a mediados del siglo veinte- de la metáfora de la mente como software. De hecho, si la mente pudiera separarse del cuerpo, podría ser entendida sin recurrir a la neurobiología y sería innecesario verse influido por conocimientos de neuroanatomía, neurofisiología y neuroquímica. Es interesante, y paradójico, que muchos científicos de la cognición –que creen poder investigar la mente y no necesitar la neurobiología- no se consideren dualistas.»
Antonio R. Damasio: El error de Descartes. Editorial Andrés Bello, págs. 278-279. Santiago de Chile, 1996.
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Why Am I This Way - Psychology Answers
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“How Am I” Section
“Why is it always me? Why does it always happen to me?”
What happens in the unconscious brain:
thi is a question that we have all asked ourselves at least once in our life, but for some people with more pessimist self image and personality, this becomes recurrent and a defense whenever an event happens in their life
In psychology, this is a type of negative thought that comes from depressive symptomatology. it starts with “Bad things are always happening”, to “This happens only to me and never the others'' and finished with “it's probably my fault”
the person tends to have a very low self esteem and these thoughts quickly go from “It’s not that the world is a bad place, is that i am useless and cannot do things right”
this typeof thought really comes from the inner guilt, shame and depression
whereas the act of always blaming others and the world comes from underlying unconscious anger and injustice.
in these moments, feelings become so hard to process and often, we forget that we are people who can rationalize things
but of course everyone needs to go at their own pace
Damasio, showed that our brain is influenced strongly by emotions compared to rationality. we always process the emotions before (unless there’s an underlying condition in the prefrontal lobe that disturbs the emotional processing of the brain).
Thankfully, the pessimistic person is wrong. There's nothing wrong with them. it's simply your brain processing emotions first. now you have to simply embarrass those before rationalizing the event and engage in positive thinking
if you are interested in more of this topics you can check the works of Martin Seligman, Antonio Damasio and Emmy Van Deurzen
So what can we do?
It seems totally stupid but trying to become more positive by shifting the way we think and slowly using that in our daily life.
So okay, something bad happened. instead of thinking “fuck, its my fault, i a useless, it halways happens to me”, try with “Okay this is a bad thing that happened, it makes me sad, but it also provides experience so i know what to do next time it happens”
By changing thought patterns into something more positive, you will be able to see your perception of the world change without the necessity of needing to be reborn again
Embrace life as it is
implies daring to welcome inevitable suffering, anxiety and guilt as an intrinsic part of existence
anxiety and guilt is something that will always accompany us in our life, but it motivate us to look deep inside of us in order to understand the authentic self and change into something more healthy
Now, you know where to work to become a better version of yourself
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A brief dip back into the philosophy of consciousness suggests a possible explanation. According to the neuroscientist and philosopher Antonio Damasio, our sense of self—that feeling that there is one “me” living this life in this body in this moment—is built firmly on our body’s implicit assessment of what it can handle. This is because, as we’ve already seen, the tissues of our bodies never, ever shut up. They constantly prattle on, like children in the back of a car, back and forth to each other and to and from the brain, commenting on how things are going on the inside. Part of the power of movement is that it allows us to change this commentary in the moment, which has an immediate impact on how we think and feel. But its effects can run even deeper than that. Any movement that makes both muscles and bones stronger can change the content of the commentary for the long haul. Moving in a way that makes us stronger can dramatically change our sense of who we are and what we can achieve in life.
Caroline Williams, On the Surprising Link Between Physical Strength and a Healthy Brain
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The neural connections within the brain give rise to the feeling of self, which we experience as consciousness. Humanity is not merely a "lump of meat" but rather possesses a self that feels, suffers, and finds joy. A central question is why humans suffer. In modern society, suffering has become a prominent issue. Suffering seems to be an inherent part of survival, as it prompts us to think, to act, and to strive for relief. Although unpleasant, it appears to serve a purpose.
A person can indeed "die of a broken heart," a notion that now seems more than just myth or folklore. The body and mind are interconnected, meaning that mental struggles can manifest physically, and physical problems can impact the mind. To achieve internal balance, one must seek tranquility in both body and mind, a harmony that often feels elusive.
Ultimately, humans are composed of a physical body, with the brain—a complex organ formed over millions of years of evolution—generating the feeling of self. The brain, akin to a supercomputer, holds mysteries we are still uncovering.
To alleviate suffering and find solutions to our problems, I recommend writing down your thoughts, examining them critically, and working towards rational solutions. Thoughts arise because we have brains.
1994_Descartes’ Error: Emotion, Reason, and the Human Brain by Antonio Damasio
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Kawi and his sense of Self
I've had Thoughts jumbling around my head for a few days, ever since @waitmyturtles started watching Be My Favourite (and sped through all 7 eps - so great to have you on board!) and having read some really great posts about time travel, the idea of 'present' and 'past', truth, and Kawi's character growth (here, here, here, and here are just a few examples by @waitmyturtles, @rocketturtle4, @wen-kexing-apologist, and @ginnymoonbeam).
But it was @rocketturtle4's addition on this post that made me think more about Kawi and his sense of self, specifically the bolded part of this line:
The overall theme of being who you are regardless of the time you are in feels like it needs teasing out more.
And this might not be interesting to anyone but me, or relevant to the analysis of the show, but it's bouncing around in my brain and I need to write it down.
The above line (and all the talk about Kawi's present and past) made me think about Antonio Damasio's theory of the construction of the Self in his book The Feeling of What Happens:
The idea each of us constructs of ourself [sic]...is based on autobiographical memory over years of experience and is constantly subject to remodelling. (p. 224)
This remodelling occurs through the reworking of memories - so each time we remember a memory we craft it slightly different based on our accumulative life experiences and innate biases.
BUT what really made an impact on me about this is the following:
The changes which occur in the autobiographical self over an individual lifetime are not due only to the remodelling of the lived past...but also the laying down and remodelling of the anticipated future...The memories of the scenarios that we conceive as desires, wishes, goals, and obligations exert a pull on the self of each moment. No doubt they also play a part in the remodelling of the lived past, consciously and unconsciously, and in the creation of the person we conceive us to be, moment by moment. (pp. 224-225)
So how does this relate to Be My Favourite?
Many people have already talked about how Kawi is not a nice person (this is a great post by @respectthepetty). Why does Pisaeng like him? Kawi doesn't even like himself. And, at the beginning of the show, Kawi's Self - his identity - is built from his memories of the past and his immoveable desire of what he wanted and still wishes his future to look like. Kawi is miserable, stuck in a miserable life (of his own making), and unable to make any changes because his idea of what he wants his future to be is impossible.
But then he gets to go back in time, and his sense of self starts changing. It changes because he's remaking his memories in real time, and in remaking those memories he's being exposed to things which are gradually altering his desires and goals for his future.
And that's a huge shift for Kawi. It's almost like going through a break-up - in a break-up, not only do you lose the person you're with but the future life you imagined with them ceases to exist. So you lose your sense of identity. Who are you without them? - Who is Kawi when he's not pining for Pear? Who is Kawi when he gets and loses Pear? Who is Kawi when he dates Pisaeng?...
And it's no wonder everything is still a mess when Kawi jumps forward to his present - he hasn't had enough time in his changed past to process the new memories of his past, nor to honestly admit to himself (or realise, if he's not quite there yet) what he really wants for his future.
And this journey is such a beautiful one to watch. As his memories and future scenarios change, Kawi's sense of self changes - hopefully to a happier, 'better' person...and I mean 'better' in the sense of nicer to other people because he's nicer to himself (and vice versa) and more open to change, rather the rigidity of his 'older' Self stuck in his miserableness.
I think this is why I'm warming up to him, because he is changing, albeit gradually, and changing for the better. He's becoming more pliable in his outlook, choices, and acceptance of things he can't control. All of which will aid him in being able to see a different future for himself - like an upward positive spiral. (This is a great post by @lurkingshan which is sort of related).
I'd love to be able to connect all this with other people's takes (especially to the discourse around whether Kawi will stay in his past and live his 12 years again or jump forward to an altered present and 'fix' what he can there) but my brain has stopped here. HOWEVER, I welcome others to jump on and expand on this if they wish.
(also tagging @grapejuicegay since we've been shouting to each other in our dms about this show 💖)
#be my favourite#be my favorite#be my favorite the series#there is a point in all this but I don't know if I made it well#it might just be me going - I FIND THIS INTERESTING#IS IT INTERESTING FOR YOU TOO?#but honestly. Damasio's theory of self was so eye-opening for me#and when changes happen in my life in which my picture of the future changes#which throws me off and disturbs my sense of identity#I remind myself of this and it helps me adjust to my new future and recalibrated 'self'
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« Les émotions se manifestent sur le théâtre du corps ; les sentiments sur celui de l’esprit. »
Antonio R. Damasio
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"내면소통"
내가 도사(=길가는 무사)짓하는 인간이란 걸 아는 지인이 참고해 보라고 제목을 알려준 책. 소장 가치가 있는지 없는지 모르는 상태에서 살 순 없어 도서관 DB 검색했더니 모든 곳에서 싹 다 대여 중이네. 이 말을 하니 지인이 마침 자긴 다 읽었다며 빌려 줌.
초판이 2023년 2월 27일에 나왔고, 내가 받은 책은 5��� 19일에 찍은 18쇄다. 와… 이 정도면 완전 대박인 건데. 신국판 크기에 깨알 같은 글씨로 700쪽이나 되는 두툼한 책이 어떻게 이럴 수가 있는지?
내용은 크게 뇌과학, 양자역학, 현대적 운동법, 종교적 수련법으로 나눠볼 수 있을 듯. 책을 꼼꼼히 읽지는 않았고, 관심이 가는 부분만 찾아 정독했단 점을 먼저 고백해야겠다.
우선 서두에서부터 좀 거슬리는 내용이 있었다. 19쪽에 "나를 바꾸는 것이 곧 세상을 바꾸는 것"이란 소제목 아래에 "내면소통 명상에 대한 강의를 할 때면 종종 이런 질문을 받는다. 산적한 사회문제나 구조적인 문제를 외면하고 혼자 앉아서 명상이나 하고 있으면 되겠는가, 너무 '나'의 문제만 파고드는 것은 아닌가, 혹은 정치적/사회적 문제를 모두 개인적인 차원의 문제로 환원시키는 것은 아닌가 하는 질문들이다. 모두 맞는 이야기다. 개인적인 차원만 들여다봐서는 안 된다. 그러나 그렇다고 해서 개인적인 차원을 아예 들여다보지 않는 것은 더욱 곤란하다…"라고 써 놓으셨던데, 나는 명상 또는 관련 몸공부를 하는 인간 중에서 사회 문제를 해결하겠다거나 나아가 세상을 변화시키겠다고 이 짓 하는 인간을 본 적이 없다. 희노애락 중에서 특히 분노와 슬픔에 깊이 매몰될 때마다 괴롭다 보니 요동치는 마음을 진정하고 싶어 이 길로 들어선 것뿐.
가령 위 문장에서 '명상'을 '땅고'로 바꿔보라고… "산적한 사회문제나 구조적인 문제를 외면하고 혼자 땅고나 하고 있으면 되겠는가" 이게 말이 되냐? 아마 저자 직업이 교수다 보니 문제 제기를 했으면 해결책도 함께 제시해야만 하는 압박을 받고 있거나, 대승불교 보살행에서 영향을 받았을 수도 있는 등 몇가지가 떠오르긴 하나 땅고와 마찬가지로 명상 또한 오로지 지 좋자고 하는 거지… 그외 다른 이유나 목적은 없다.
책 표지에 "삶의 변화를 가져오는 마음근력 훈련"이라 써 놓은 걸 보면 아마도 '내면소통'이란 제목 못잖게 '마음근력'이란 용어 또한 굉장히 중요한 말인 듯하다. 몸공부하는 사람으로서 '내면소통'이 결국 명상의 핵심이란 점에 ���번 동의. 근데 '마음근력'은 그냥 '정신력'과 같은 말 아님? 내가 책을 띄엄띄엄 읽어서 잘 이해를 못했기 때문일까?
비슷한 사례로 '배경자아'란 말도 그렇다. 이거 그냥 프로이트가 말하는 '무의식'이 아님? 나는 무의식(=의식이 없다)이란 용어에 좀 문제가 있다 싶어 '심층의식'이라 하고는 있지만…
나 나름 명상의 목적이 결국 의식과 심층의식 간 소통이고, 이 길을 더 분명하게 드러내기 위해 매일 수련을 하다 보면 차츰 정신력이 강해진다는 논리와 별로 다를 게 없다.
다만, 이 책에서처럼 누구든 노력하면 정신력 또는 마음근력이 강해질 수는 있지만 얼마나 걸리는 지에 관해선 (내가 미처 못 봤을 수도 있지만) 암 말이 없는 거로 보임. 물론 사람마다 개인차가 있긴 하나 평균값도 있을 텐데, 대체로 2~3년 갖곤 어림없다. 내가 종종 쓰는 표현인 "십 년에 종이 한 장"이 대다수 현실임.
임윤찬처럼 동네 피아노 학원에서 시작해 국제 콩쿨 입상하는 사례도 있긴 하지만 대다수는 동네 피아노 학원에서 끝나듯, 모든 사람이 아라한급에 도달하는 것도 아니다. 그럼에도 불구하고 현실적 한계를 받아들인 부류들만 이 길을 가는 것이다.
책이 이렇게나 두꺼워진 이유는 현대 뇌과학이 밝혀낸 연구 성과를 나열해 놨기 때문. 최근 이 분야의 발전은 과거에 개개인이 장님 코끼리 더듬듯, 감으로 탐색하곤 했던 영역을 구체적인 증거와 수치로 제시하고 있단 점에서 정말 놀랍긴 하다. 하지만 일상 속 수련을 결여한 지식은 말빨, 글빨만 키울 뿐 별 의미가 없지 않나 싶어 나는 딱히 세세하게 살피진 않는다. 뿐만 아니라 내가 매일 한 걸음씩 전진해 가며 알아야 할 것을 왠지 영화 스포일러처럼 미리 아는 게 좀 맥 빠지는 것처럼 느껴지기도 하고, 또 자칫 선입견을 만들어 '다름과 틀림'을 혼동하게 되지는 않을까 싶어 경계하는 면도 있다.
암튼 이 책 덕분에 안토니오 디마지오(Antonio Damasio)란 인물과 '마코프 블랭킷 모델', '신경가소성' 같은 몇몇 용어를 주워 읽음. (딴 데 가서 잘난 척 써먹어야지~)
양자역학에 관해 쓴 부분은 제일 대충 넘김. 몸공부에다 양자역학 이론을 접붙이는 거 거부감이 있다. 애당초 수학 언어로만 소통해야 하는 영역이다. 인간 언어로 풀어버리는 순간 반드시 왜곡이 일어난다고 보기 때문. 이 책에서는 학계 주류가 아니고 정파와 사파 사이 중간계에 속하는 데이비드 봄(David Bohm)이라는 인물 이론으로 썰을 푼 거 같긴 하더만, 이분 역시 수학을 사용해 본인 주장을 했지 인문학 언어로 말한 건 아니니까.
운동법에 관해 써 놓은 내용은, 한두 개 빼고 내가 다 해본 것들이다. (스승 없이 야매로 한 거도 인정해 준다면…) 구체적으로는 요가, 태극권, 참장, 케틀벨 + 메이스벨, 펠덴크라이스, 알렉산더 테크닉 등… 내가 안 해본 거는 수영(어릴 때 익사 공포가 있어 배울 기회 놓침), 페르시안밀(도구가 없어 못 해 봄) 정도.
운동 원리를 장력운동(=아이소메트릭)과 근력운동(=아이소토닉)으로 나누는 것 또한 내가 쓴 책에서도 굉장히 강조한 거고… 결국 몸통 하나에 팔, 다리 각각 두 개씩 달린 채로 지구 중력 영향 아래 있다는 초기 조건하에서라면 다 비슷비슷한 결론에 도달하는구나를 공감.
책의 대단원은 종교 수행법에 대해 써놨던데, 왠지 남방 불교 전통인 사띠, 사마띠, 위빠사나 얘길 하고 싶으나 구색을 맞추기 위해 다른 내용을 끼워 넣은 뒤 아나빠나사띠로 끝맺음한 듯한 느낌을 받음. 이 부분은 너무 간략히 써놔 개인적으론 그다지 참고할 내용은 없었고 요점 정리를 한 번 더 한 느낌. 참고로 이 길을 가겠다고 맘 먹었으면 한국에서 특히 유명한 대승 경전인 금강경, 법화경, 화엄경, 중론, 해심밀경 등등과 남방 불교 경전과 겹치는 게 확인된 아함경 요약본(원전은 동어반복이 심함) 외 숫타니파타, 법구경, 대념처경 정도는 다들 읽는 거 같다.
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