#Anti-WestAllen

[kyliafanfiction]

“Your sad little nerdy wet dream”

Like, who the fuck says that to someone who is at least nominally her best friend?

[kathrahender]

Please can the male character of a fantasy show/shonen anime not end with a female character for once? Stop with the heteronormativity dear God.

Give the main male character more female friends instead of giving him female love interests. Male characters deserve to have female friends. They don't have to be always romantically involved! I'm tired of people always wanting to ship a girl and a boy without any other option. They could be just friends! (and this feels very close to me because I had a best male friend in high school and people ALWAYS saw us as lovers and it WASN'T true at all! It was so irritating I swear. "You look good together" "You are a good couple" "Are you two together?" Why can't you leave us alone??? He was just my friend). Because YES, a girl and a boy can be friends without feeling romantic love for each other.

Annabeth could have been Percy Jackson's first female friend and she could have been the first girl who cared about him, just like a "female version of Grover" and just a friend- but no, they had to end up together because God forbid a main male character not being the boyfriend of a girl (and the same happens with Hiccstrid, Jlaire and Anidala, they could also just have been friends)

Naruto and Hinata could have been besties instead of lovers but no- they had to make Hinata a girl whose life was only centered in "How do I make Naruto-kun love me?" (and the same happened to Iris West. She could have been more important to the plot and Barry's best female friend- but instead she was just his love interests and her development was null. And the same happened with Allura. At first she was a good character, but then she was only there to be Lance love interest, what he should have been overcome. And btw Allura's romantic love towards Lance felt very rushed. As well as Hinny was so bad developed in the movies and Ginny's development didn't exist).

Seriously people stop with these things. Stop reducing a female character to a love interest. Don't make the main male character end up with a female character because that "it's better for the plot" "it's better for the world" "people won't accept the male character dating another male character" "people won't accept the male character not dating anyone". Not everything has to be a straight couple. Actually, not everything has to be a couple! All relationships in the book/show/movie/anime could be platonic and it wouldn't be a big deal! (Although personally I like romance, but aroace people also exist and they deserve to be represented in media).

[chadrickmd]

The Flash

I'mma be honest, I wish Iris wasn't Barry's love interest. First, I always found the foster sibling thing weird, not that it's always bad, just they always felt more like siblings than lovers. Second, the writers just sucked, and once they were together, completely ruined Iris.

Eddie should have lived, and literally anyone else (Caitlin, Leonard, Cisco, etc.) for Barry.

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Barry and Cisco for the niche questions character ask game pleaaaase :)

Barry

A song that reminds me of them: Try by Rick Astley (yes, that Rick Astley—no, that link is not a Rickroll). And also Try Everything by Shakira. Same general message, different energies, both of which are Barry to a T.

What they smell like: A raspberry Tootsie Pop. I'm not saying that's what he ACTUALLY smells like (I'm also not NOT saying that), but that's the first thing that comes to my mind. Also like spruce or juniper leaves (needles?) and that first-step-into-a-shoe-store new leather smell.

An otp: Barrisco and Westallen! I feel like Iris was the perfect person for him to end up with in canon, but Cisco is the person I'm most interested in seeing him paired with in fanfiction (and he's 100% the person he would've ended up with if wasn't with Iris). They're the two people that Barry loves the most and that he can't live without, and he's completely enamored with both of them.

A notp: I simply can NOT get into Olivarry. It's just boring to me. Wtf are they gonna do on a date? Argue about ethics?

Favorite platonic/familial relationships: Also Cisco! They were a brotp before they were an otp, and I still value them as friends without my shipper goggles on. But after him, Joe. I'm a big sucker for a good adoptive/chosen parent-child relationship.

A headcanon that is popular in the fandom but that I disagree with: I'm not sure about headcanons so much, but there are several misinterpretations of his actions and his motives that drive me crazy. Whether they're making him out to be a bad friend or hailing him as The Only Person Doing The Right Thing when he is very clearly wrong, there are multiple takes in the fandom that are just...incorrect. For example, the idea that he was being selfish and manipulative when he got Cisco to open a breach to Earth-2, or that he was just doing what any good husband would do when he pulled Iris and only Iris out of the Mirrorverse. Like, were some of these people even watching the same show?

The position they sleep in: Barry is a big time side sleeper, with the arm on the side that he's lying on curled up in front of him.

A crossover AU I’d love to see them in: I mean I am writing a double crossover about him that's set in Dalton Academy with a plot that's a rewrite of Pretty In Pink.

My favorite outfit they’ve ever worn: There's a specific outfit in the back of my mind, and I can't remember what it is or what scene it's in, but these ones jumped out at me while I was on my wild search for it.

(SAVITAR TOTALLY COUNTS!)

Cisco

A song that reminds me of them: You'll Always Find Your Way Back Home by Hannah Montana. Because he's changed a bit over the years, and he can be a little lost sometimes, but who he is at his core is always consistent. And because you know he's gonna find a reason to move back to Central City at some point. Also Brave by Josh Groban, which is self explanatory.

What they smell like: As mentioned on your post, cypress and tea tree oil is what I think of his go-to hair/skin product scent being. But there's also some lingering metal and oil smell from his workshop, leather (more like a car with leather interior than the shoe store smell though), and a teensy bit of artificial strawberry from whatever the last candy he had was.

An otp: Kamilla and Barry, my beloveds. 💖 Barry, of course, you already know why, and Kamilla for similar reasons. They both adore Cisco, they're protective and supportive of him, and they like a lot of the same nerdy stuff that he likes. Plus both ships are just adorable together. Barry and Kamilla are both sweet and gentle and affectionate, and that's just what he needs in a partner. They're also the only people that I feel like really deserve him. A relationship with anyone else would feel too unbalanced.

A notp: Everyone else. Just kidding (kind of). He has amazing platonic chemistry with everyone, and romantic chemistry with like maybe 5 people. As far as ships I actively dislike, I am very much squicked out by seeing him shipped with Caitlin and Harry. I love their canon/platonic relationships, but I can't do them in any other context. There are more, but those are the main two that are an absolute no for me.

Favorite platonic/familial relationships: Caitlin! 💖 Their friendship is so sweet, and the sibling energy is off the charts. I love them so much!! Best friend goals for life. Also, Cisco and Ronnie's relationship is super underrated. I wish we could've gotten more of them. :(

A headcanon that is popular in the fandom but that I disagree with: That his parents were abusive. They're definitely overly critical, emotional unavailable, and they favor Dante over him, but I don't see them as intentionally cruel. That's not to say I'm totally against them being written that way, because I've read some good fics where they are, but I prefer to think that their issues come from a lack of understanding of him, and also refusal to accept that their golden child is actually their problem child, and vice versa. I think that they do love Cisco, and they do try somewhat to have a good relationship with him, they just don't try nearly as hard as they should, and they go about it all the wrong way.

The position they sleep in: Oddly enough I think he's a back sleeper. That's if he's in bed by himself, though. If he's with a partner, he loves to be the big spoon.

A crossover AU I’d love to see them in: See the answer for Barry.

My favorite outfit they’ve ever worn:

Also I can't find a good gif of it, but that red suit he wore for Barry and Iris's vow renewal + the S.T.A.R. Labs stole. Also, the S.T.A.R. Labs T-shirt. It hits different on him.

[alphawolfice1989]

How Barry & Caitlin Could've Gotten Together

[alexblakehusband]

favorite what if fr

[shrinkthisviolet]

character ask game for Iris and Caitlin? :)

Iris

Sexuality headcanon:

Bi or pan!

OTP:

Westallen 🥰 I also love Westhallen, Snowest, Snowestallen, and Barriscowest!

BROTP:

Iris & Cisco 💞 sunshine twins for the win

NOTP:

Iris/Eobard (probably others too but that one comes to mind)

First headcanon that pops into my head:

Iris is a decent singer, but she hates singing solo. She loves singing with Barry 💞

(She misses him so much when she loses him 😭 she can hardly bear to sing a single note without him there to harmonize)

Favorite line from this character:

"In this world, the bravest thing you can be is optimistic" words to live by!

One way in which I relate to this character:

I also can't cook very well 😅 working on it though

Thing that gives me second hand embarrassment about this character:

Her Three List. Also the waterfront kiss. I just...*sigh*

Cinnamon roll or problematic fave?:

Cinnamon roll!

Caitlin

Sexuality headcanon:

Bi and/or aromantic!

OTP:

Snowstorm, Snowest, and Snowestallen 🥰

BROTP:

Caitlin and Cisco! I used to really ship them, but...as time goes on, I ship them less. I don't see them as siblings necessarily, though I do see that vision, but...idk. They're cute as a ship but I mostly prefer them as a brotp lately

NOTP:

Caitlin/Eobard, Caitlin/Wells (any of them). Also Caitlin/KF (I personally love the sisters angle for them)

First headcanon that pops into my head:

Caitlin had a toy doctor set and proudly carried it around everywhere 💞 she used it most often on her dad

(This is in fact me projecting, I miss my toy doctor set)

Favorite line from this character:

"It's not a burden if we shoulder it together"

One way in which I relate to this character:

I'm also a pre-med like her who had a passion for it from a young age!

Thing that gives me second hand embarrassment about this character:

The way she treated Jax in 2x5...yikes. (And the way some people on Tumblr apparently called that "a mom encouraging her son"...double yikes)

Also her stint with Amunet...girl wtf??

Cinnamon roll or problematic fave?:

Cinnamon roll! Though…problematic fave in some seasons (like s4 💀)

character ask game!

[drnotreallystrange]

Why WA sucks and was written to suck

Not a bad list, talking turd anon. But, you forgot

  * Barry moves in with Viris as a kid. Barry and Viris call the same man “dad”. Joe and the show promo materials say several times that Barry is Joe’s adopted son. Wally is his “brother”. Which makes Viris his sister in all aspects except the biological one. Icky.  * Their toxic arguments, for example the one in Season 5  * Viris many times talking badly about Barry and disrespecting him and his feelings.  * Reverse Flash hyping them up and encouraging Viris to “forgive” him, because he wants to hurt Barry  * Viris being a shitty mom (early to mid Season 5)  * Zero on-screen affection shown for several seasons(!)  * Eric clearly preferring the idiotic Allegra/”Chuck” thing over them. OK, Eric is a mostly shitty writer/showrunner, but still ... etc etc One of the worst TV “main couples” I’ve ever seen.

[supermanliveson]

westallen people are soooo insecure with their ship. whenever you criticize the questionable writing of the ship they start calling you things lol

Not to mention the complete lack of chemistry, the terrible acting of the so-called leading lady, and the vastly disproportionate amount of screentime it takes up for what was supposed to be a fun superhero show. Clearly they see all those things as bonuses, not problems; that's how hypocritical and intellectually bankrupt they are.

[bitchypuppystarlight]

It’s quite freeing to come to the point in your fandom life where you don’t feel the need to argue with everyone who sees something different about your favorite show/character/ship/storyline.

It’s even better when you get to the point where you can read an opposing viewpoint and acknowledge that their views are valid and worth sharing.

It doesn’t mean they have changed your mind, only that they’re not wrong either.

Or even better still, when someone with an opposing viewpoint is able to make you see something in a way you never have before and it changes the way you consume media.

The best, however, is when you’ve finally reached the fandom age where you don’t go looking for reasons to be upset and create drama because it gives you a dopamine high.

[fictional-at-heart]

Manifest, Bones (I know you’ve seen a few epiosdes) & Flash for old times sake

Manifest:

my favorite female character: Can I say Angelina?😂

• my favorite male character: Ben Stone, TJ, and Jared. I refuse to choose between them.

• my favorite book/season/etc: I don’t think I have a favorite Manifest season honestly!

my favorite episode: 2x07 or 4x10! (“READ YOUR SCRIPTURE, BEN!”)

• my favorite cast member: One SIR JOSH DALLAS

• my favorite ship: TJ and Olive🥰

• a character l'd die defending: TJ!!

• a character I just can’t sympathize with: Isaiah😂

• a character I grew to love: Cal. I honestly didn’t like him very much when he was younger, but I liked him a lot when he was an adult!

• my anti otp: Zekaela- wait, no. LEVI AND OLIVE🤬

Bones:

• my favorite female character: Bones 🦴

• my favorite male character: Booth, duh!!

• my favorite book/season/etc: Yeaaahhhh, I’ve only seen a few episodes over different seasons😂

• my favorite cast member: Uh, probably David Boreanaz? I don’t know😂

• my favorite ship: Booth and Brennan

• a character l'd die defending: Probably Booth again. Maybe Sweets?

• a character I just can’t sympathize with: I’ll make @superseal76 happy and say Pelant😂

• a character I grew to love: I haven’t watched it long enough😂

•my anti OTP: @superseal76 told me to put Sully and Brennan😂

Flash:

• my favorite female character: Caitlin/Killer Frost

• my favorite male character: Barry

• my favorite book/season/etc: Oooooh I think 4 or 1 was my favorite?

• my favorite cast member: Danielle Panabaker

• my favorite ship: I will ALWAYS be partial to Caitlin and Ronnie🥺

• a character l'd die defending: Probably Caitlin/Killer Frost or Ralph

• a character I just can’t sympathize with: Iris. I can’t stand her

• a character I grew to love: I wouldn’t say love, but Cisco grew on me towards the end of the series

•my anti OTP: WestAllen ugh🤢

Feel free to send me more!! These are fun!

[promisewish]

It's very disturbing that radical snowbarry fans are harassing Candice, bullied leanne for doing an episode westallen episode to the point that she had to disable her comments section for awhile, constantly twist iris character, wish horrible fates on iris, constantly scream about snowbarry in the comments of westallen/iris heavy content and other disturbing things related to iris yet there are people that still act that the westallen fans are the problem. Not saying that all westallen fans are 100% innocent but are people that blind about what snowbarry fans have done?

[hitchell-mope]

Timeline differences in season three of the My Universe au.

For starters. Because Mon El never left. Kara’s happy at the start of the season. She does get an official warning from Cat afte they’re found in Kara’s office TogetherTM. But apart from that there’s no angst. At least. Not yet.

With regard to Imra and Brainy. They still show up to save Kara after the Christmas fight with Reign. And Imra tells them that Mon El needs to go to the future and marry her because Politics. And naturally. Both Kara and Mon El are HIGHLY opposed to it. So you see? ANGST!!!!

With Reign. Poor Samantha still believes that Lena can help her. So Lena still exploits Samantha’s nosocomephobia and still uses the synthesised kryptonite on her. Which still doesn’t fucking work. And this time. Lena is assisted by Maxwell Lord. And yes. It’s her romance plot. A match made in petty villainous hell. Don’t you think?

On a somewhat brighter side. Mon El drives Kara and Alex to Midvale after Alex and Maggie break up. Don’t worry. Kenny’s still in the flashbacks. Because in this au. None of the men get treated like shit. Except for Lex and Maxwell of course

Morgan Edge is NOT a run of the mill chauvinist in this. If you would like some more specifics then please refer to this post for details: https://www.tumblr.com/hitchell-mope/748460767729287169/morgan-edge-in-the-my-universe-au

Lucy comes back as the DEO’s official military liaison. And she reconnects with James and gives him some pointers on stealth, techniques and the like for his Guardian identity. Which brings them even closer and they start dating again. So no unholy character assassination here writers. You dumbasses.

On a more angsty note. The prospect of Mon El having to go to the future weighs heavily on the both of them. So when they cross dimensions and go to westallen’s wedding, but before the Nazi duplicates show up, so like the day before when they’re all prepping, like, just before Alex and Sarah hookup, Kara asks Barry for some advice and Mon El asks Iris for some advice. Because westallen have more experience with the spacetime continuum than most couples do.

Ruby eventually finds out about Reign. She panics and thinks it’s her fault because Brainy lets slip that Ruby being born postponed the worldkiller programming. Mon El runs damage control and tells Ruby that her being born allowed The Hyde to lay dormant until Samantha could meet supergirl and the team who could help her. Of course Ruby’s a teenager so this doesn’t work quite as well as intended. But still. Ruby greatly appreciates Mon El’s (or “Uncle Mike’s”) help.

They end up being able to save Samantha from Lena and Maxwell’s experimentation and both her and Ruby are put under the DEO’s protection. While there. Winn and Samantha strike up a connection and Ruby and Carter become friends.

When M'yrnn’s telepathy goes haywire it’s Mon El who loses it and yells at Imra and Brainy for expecting him to leave Kara, their friends and their entire life together behind in the name of so called duty. It only makes Kara love him more.

Sadly. Samantha does get briefly taken over by Reign, the brief time travel thing still happens and Kara does get cloned like in canon. Except. Brainy and Winn are able to use Legion technology, as well as M’gann’s Martian powers to quell and rejoin the two halves of Samantha’s psyche and save everyone. Good old sci-fi mumbo jumbo really. A little bit cliche. But it works 99.9% of the time. So it’s fine.

When everything’s over. Imra finally gets it that Mon El has a life of his own and with the blight vanquished and Samantha in full control of the Reign persona there’s no need to stay. So she goes back home to 30th Century alone.

Before she leaves. She asks Brainy to stay in the 21st Century and keep an eye on Samantha. Just in case. Winn also stays and asks Samantha out to dinner. To his happy surprise the accepts. Plus. Winn gives Mon El his supersuit. Same as in canon. Except this time. Winn’s included the House Of El insignia. Karamel love it.

Brainy also gives Mon El a Legion ring. In the event that he changes his mind. Mon El uses the ring to propose to Kara. And she accepts. Just in time for angst in season 4.

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[supermanliveson]

She wasn't; Barry left Cisco in charge and she stole it.

rewatching s4 for harrisco feels and tell me again why was iris put in charge of the team??