#Anti Radioapple shippers

[princess-charlie-of-hell]

Fanart of Charlastor Fan children: Exists

Toxic R@dioapple shippers: I was going to like and reblog it till I saw it is Charlastor. So I am just going to image it as R@dioapple 🤡

Same toxic shippers: Radiobelle shippers are so toxic!!!

[speakofthedebbie]

wooo everyones saying the print drama was the "rabid shippers" fault and are using ace people as a meat shield for hate!!!! the hazbin fandom is so fun and cool and mature!!!!

[madamefeu]

Wait, another person died because of toxic shippers? I can’t with this fandom anymore. Why is it so hard for people to be civil over fictional characters?

Ok, now I hate radioapple as much as I hate Huskerdust. This is a warning to everyone on my tumblr: Do not interact with me if you ship Radioapple or Huskerdust. Bullies are not welcome on my blog. Unfollow me. Do it now.

This is going to be a more serious post than usual. I have recently found out some very unfortunate news. We lost another life to the toxic side of our community… Over a ship. This isn't the first time this happened, but at this point, I can't keep quiet. I need to talk about this. I won't get into too much detail, I'm mostly venting about why this is horrible beyond the, you know, harrassment driving someone to the point of offing themself. Be aware.

I heard we lost another. A Charlastor shipper to the toxic RadioApple and Chaggie fans. I remember when this happened to a RadioDust shipper. When will people learn that shipping Alastor is not immoral? A lot of asexuals ship him. It's stuff like this that makes the Hazbin Hotel fandom look bad. We cannot keep spreading hate like this. I get that sometimes, you can get really heated when you see something you dislike a lot, but there are better ways to express your dislike that won't cause someone's depression pill to double up until they're dead. I apologize if I'm being dramatic, but I am just really sick and tired of the hate. Fandom spaces need to be safe for people. No one is innocent about this, everyone can always try to do better. I have to do better. I've messed up before too. I never sent someone death threats, but I've gotten into heated arguments over stupid shit too. To me, anti-shippers are the most toxic type of "fan". The real world is getting worse and worse every day. Our childhood is ebing shatteres after those we idolized all seem to be creeps, kids are experiencing massive brainrot causing the next generation to grow up with absolutely no attention span, and ai is threatening to take over everyone's jobs. Are we really going to focus your hate on shipping? This is just not ok. This is the 3rd life lost in this fandom due to stupid drama. I fear that this fandom is going to slowly kill itself. I would like to say that I have deep respect for this person. I don't know their name, but I saw their speech on reddit. I won't post it here but I just wanna say that I am really happy that they didn't go out silently. They gave their word. And I'm going to say that stuff like this is why I don't like when characters are given canon sexualities. That might be stupid, but I like being able to have freedom shipping whatever I want. I hope all those who have taken their life rest in peace. They didn't deserve any of the horrid shit they went through.

I apologize if the way I talk doesn't make sense. This is my first language, I'm just not smart.

Hazbin Hotel: Vivziepop

[radiodemonxkingofhell]

Not an Anti declaring war against Radioapple Shippers 🤣

They're pissed that Radioapple is trending LMAOOOO

[manicali]

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[diamondkat]

I read a post where someone was complaining about radiodust shippers hating on huskerdust. It involved radiodust fans using arguments that huskerdust shouldn't be a thing because of because Angel Dust sexually harassed Husk and being upset that huskerdust was canon instead of radiodust. As a multi-shipper whose first Alastor ship was radiodust, my first reaction was to dismiss this as false. Firstly, because that argument against huskerdust is nonsense in and of itself but would be especially hypocritical coming from a radiodust fan. Secondly, it was my belief that most people, if not everyone, understood that if you shipped Alastor you did it with the knowledge that it was never going to be canon. I am ambivalent towards the ship myself but I haven't seen any radiodust fan arguing against the ship. However, I always try to keep in mind that my experiences are not universal so I went and checked the tags for radiodust and anti-huskerdust.

I am happy to report that most anti-Huskerdust stuff is by antis whose opinions don't matter. There are also more terrible takes regarding the relationship than just the one that the poster mentioned like someone talking about age gaps ignoring how many years they have lived in hell in addition to when they died. However, I will admit I did find a radiodust fan who was hating on the ship and another shipper who complained about radioapple fans attacking their radiorose fanfic. The conclusion that I reached was that there are annoying fans who make it their entire thing to hate on the things that other fans enjoy, but they are not the majority. Most fans are likely just making and sharing things that they enjoy. If you encounter one of those fans in the wild trying to insult you or make fun of a ship you like, feel free to block them and continue enjoying fandom stuff. For example, when I first joined the Hellverse fandom I couldn't enjoy Helluva Boss content without being subjected to some of the worst bad faith takes. I blocked the helluva boss critical tag and immediately stopped having such problems. Let's all continue to enjoy the fandom without making things uncomfortable for others.

[skiplo-wave]

www.tumblr.com/warblogs17282/764026362074890240/i-remember-before-like-5-months-ago-and-before

What do you think of this?

For starters harassing anyone cause they like a ship is unhinged behavior and need touch grass cause it’s fictional characters from hell

Coming from a multi shipper that ships alastor with good chunk of HH cast ( characters not literal Voice actors)

But same time this just part of course for big fandoms with many ships. Vizie original said everyone can ship whomever it won’t change canon. But I don’t blame her to just back away from it when shippers or antis start going rabid.

Recently she made a post that had radioapple ( Lucifer X Alastor) everyone was in uproar for better or worst. Post got deleted and reuploaed with radioapple removed because it was that bad

Again it should never be that serious. If you don’t like any ship block the tag and person and move on.

And Christ sake don’t bother people in the link. If you disagree with them just block them

[princess-hope-selfships]

Basics ✨

💖 Call me Hope, Princess or Dazzler! 💖 she/her ✨cis aceflux demiromantic 💖 I am 30 years old! Minors please dni, thank you. 💖 I interact from my main, HopethePrincess! 💖 My Carrd has information about my f/os, both romantic and platonic! Feel free to browse. I'm not personally comfortable with sharing my romantic f/os, but as long as you don't chat with me about it I'm fine with you following! 💖 tl;dr version of this point, I'm not a proshipper as you probably define it, absolutely do not interact with me if you ship adults with minors or ship incest. Thank you. Basically, I cannot keep up with proship or anti labels anymore, because the definitions for these terms keep changing. I've seen takes like "shipping w/ a villain or criminal is proship" and "having platonic f/os who are underage is proship and pe/do behavior" so fuck it lol. I am just gonna lay out what I don't like in my dni, which is below the cut.

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❌ Minors! Literally anyone under 18 years old. I'm an adult and I don't want to talk to, be talked to, or be seen by minors ❌ Shippers I don't want to interact: incest shippers, minor and adult shippers (regardless of if you're aging characters up or down) Charlastor shippers, Radioapple shippers, Zemyx shippers, Xigdem shippers, thank you! ❌ Fatphobes, esp if you claim to be "concerned about fat people's health" ❌ Homophobes, biphobes, transphobes, aphobes, every kind of LGBTphobe get outta here

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[aerodystian]

Messy hazbinhotel fandoms, ship policing, gate keepers please stop

A long time ago I came to the conclusion that ppl will hate charlastor no matter the scenerio. Bc if you hate something you just do. " i just dont like it bc its popular" excuse 🤷‍♀️

Ive always saw alot of ppl ship both ships even in 2020. But that isnt enough for militant canon stans. They want us to suck canon toes and cry to viv to forgive us, bc of what some assholes did in the past. There okay with shipping radioapple/moxxieblitzo/moxxiedust heck any other combination outside of canon. But when charlastor shippers do the same it's an issue. As i stated this before vaggie being potrayed as just a supportive closebest friend in an AU it's bad. Making a traid (charlie/al charlie/vaggie) is also an issue. I personally dont mind toxic charlastor bc i am adult that likes mature adult content but then the antis will complain its toxic and they hate it. But If an artist draw them dancing or just being cute around each other it's bad also bc its too "fluffy". me stating this will never change nothing. The biphobic sterotype is disgusting bc i seen straight couples, gay couples and Suprise!!! lesbians couples cheat on each other. Ive seen messy girl/gay circles where they all fuck each other. Lets not act like that never happened and it dont exist. So i dont understand all the negative energy towards bisexuals.

Ppl will dislike what they dislike and that's it. It could be for simple reasons such as they hate how popular a ship is, they have a rival ship…even jealousy. They ship theirselves with al and hate to see charlir ship with him. (I know it sounds crazy but these type ofbthings happen in fandoms) But I stand firm that charlatsor ship isnt queer erasure/homofobic. The petition thing was done with radiodust shippers and charlastor. The shipwars was back and forth thing bc their were both toxic. The militant shippers being gatekeepers and harrassers to anyone that would draw charlastor and the gross toxic charlastor shippers that drew the gore art to "get back at the canon STANS" There is an misunderstanding that some charlastor shippers "hate viv" but I think it's more like many feel like she never called out her own toxic fanbase. She ignores ppl getting harrassed and chuck the ship as being homofobic. Many shippers felt alienated upset bc they were being taunted provoke by the entitled chaggie stans. And it seemed like she just only cares for that part of her fan base.

[asettledsky]

Why do people always insist on misinterpreting scenes like that?

While I absolutely love the whole idea of maybe he does view her in a paternal sort of light, literally none of the Hell's Greatest Dad scene actually suggests anything more than a desire to get under Lucifer's skin?

Like, he's not saying any of that to Charlie for Charlie's benefit. He's doing that to poke at Lucifer's insecurity about not being there for her this whole time.

It's really why I kinda dig RadioApple just a smidge more than RadioBelle, I love Alastor's tendency to be a lil shithead.

I know you said that OP, it's just a trend I've noticed in anti shippers to pull that kind of deliberate misinterpretion thing. (Not to drag out old Beetlejuice drama but like... Dream can attest).

I feel kinda bad for the charlastor shippers. Like, as a radiodust shipper, we got it bad after the series, but at least what we got was no content. Charlastor? Phew. I have no doubt that world's greatest dad cut your numbers down bad. And the people I've seen against the ship because of that song? Even when Alastor saying she's like a daughter to him was clearly a manipulation tactic and a way to get on Lucifer's nerves? Sure, the ship isn't my cup of tea, but the amount of people calling the ship gross is a little annoying. Again, Alastor clearly doesn't actually think of Charlie as a daughter. Someone he can use to get power? Yeah. But the only one that is even close to being a daughter to him is Nifty.

(Sorry, this was just a ramble. I've seen way too many people shitting on this ship)

[princess-charlie-of-hell]

Do people seriously think that Radioapple shippers are less toxic than Charlastors shippers?

I once saw a post how both ships has toxic shippers but people in the comments startet saying how "Charlastor shippers are much more toxic" and "they want unlike Radioapple shippers that their gets Canon". I was really surprised to see that many people agreed with the opinions.

I am going to say this as a huge Charlastor shipper so my opinion is probably biased but just no, Charlastor shippers aren't barely as toxic as RA shippers. Like i am not saying that there aren't toxic Radiobelle shippers especially in the pilot days there was many of them around but in comparison to RA shippers they are tame.

Everything people complain about things Toxic Charlastor shippers do so did RA shippers

"They want their ship to become Canon"

Remember the fake edits people made how Vivziepop said that she is planning to make RA Canon in the second season

"They enforce a stereotype of Bi people being cheaters because they make art and fics where Charlie cheats on Vaggie with Alastor"

There are also hundreds of art and fics where Lucifer cheats on Lilith with Alastor as if that is any better

"They are misogynistic because they make Charlie a damsel in distress who needs to get protected from Alastor"

In RA fics Charlie doesn't get a better treatment, She is often used as a plot device where she is For example a child who barely is a character expect for cute, written too as a damsel in distress who can't do anything without getting helped by her "dads" or ships Alastor and Lucifer so she can have a family again. And don't get me started how Lilith is threaten in them or in any other fic where Lucifer is shipped with someone else

I know i complain about this often in my posts but there is also where Charlastor Fan kids get used as RA fan kids. I remember once that I saw a animation where Alastor protects his children and it was reposted under RA despite the Artist being a Charlastor shipper and dislikes RA open, I can't image how the they must have felt as their art get used for a ship they don't even like.

This post isn't saying that there are no Toxic Radiobelle shippers because in my opinion every ship has toxic shippers but people always make it seem that the Charlastor fandom is the most toxic one.

And just to make it clear this post isn't about RA shippers who are respectful and just enjoy the ship, you guys are great but about the kinds of shippers who sent death threats, steal art and harass other shippers

This post was mainly to vent and it felt good, again I am biased as Charlastor shipper so people may not agree with me on this and it is OK, just please stay respectful

[speakofthedebbie]

not much i was just malding about all the hate radioapple was getting from the duo prints

if you dont know about the duo prints then lemme break it down (this esnt know what the fuck ng)

basically sum like 3 days ago (?) stremaily made a new duo print of alastor and lucifer posted to vivs yt community tab which some poor soul at spindlehorse captioned sum like "RADIOAPPLE DEVOTESS YOULL LOVE THIS!"

seems fine right? just a silly little nod to a ship that is objectively popular?

well if you think that youre one of the few people in this fandom with a brain cuz the comment was a fucking warzone. antis were saying they would kys/drop the show if it got canon, alastors asexuality and not-really-canon aromanticism were used as excuses to hate on people, all around terrible. it got so bad that the post had to be re-uploaded with "radioapple" being swapped for "alastor and lucifer" and vivzie making a tweet about how she didnt directly make the post and isnt claiming it will become canon

that should be the end but if you look under any comment section about it people are still being weird and attempting to pin this all on the "rabid shippers"

fun times :)

okay im chill now :)

[moodooivy]

This is going to be a more serious post than usual. I have recently found out some very unfortunate news. We lost another life to the toxic side of our community… Over a ship. This isn't the first time this happened, but at this point, I can't keep quiet. I need to talk about this. I won't get into too much detail, I'm mostly venting about why this is horrible beyond the, you know, harrassment driving someone to the point of offing themself. Be aware.

I heard we lost another. A Charlastor shipper to the toxic RadioApple and Chaggie fans. I remember when this happened to a RadioDust shipper. When will people learn that shipping Alastor is not immoral? A lot of asexuals ship him. It's stuff like this that makes the Hazbin Hotel fandom look bad. We cannot keep spreading hate like this. I get that sometimes, you can get really heated when you see something you dislike a lot, but there are better ways to express your dislike that won't cause someone's depression pill to double up until they're dead. I apologize if I'm being dramatic, but I am just really sick and tired of the hate. Fandom spaces need to be safe for people. No one is innocent about this, everyone can always try to do better. I have to do better. I've messed up before too. I never sent someone death threats, but I've gotten into heated arguments over stupid shit too. To me, anti-shippers are the most toxic type of "fan". The real world is getting worse and worse every day. Our childhood is ebing shatteres after those we idolized all seem to be creeps, kids are experiencing massive brainrot causing the next generation to grow up with absolutely no attention span, and ai is threatening to take over everyone's jobs. Are we really going to focus your hate on shipping? This is just not ok. This is the 3rd life lost in this fandom due to stupid drama. I fear that this fandom is going to slowly kill itself. I would like to say that I have deep respect for this person. I don't know their name, but I saw their speech on reddit. I won't post it here but I just wanna say that I am really happy that they didn't go out silently. They gave their word. And I'm going to say that stuff like this is why I don't like when characters are given canon sexualities. That might be stupid, but I like being able to have freedom shipping whatever I want. I hope all those who have taken their life rest in peace. They didn't deserve any of the horrid shit they went through.

I apologize if the way I talk doesn't make sense. This is my first language, I'm just not smart.

Hazbin Hotel: Vivziepop

[princess-charlie-of-hell]

Why does the fandom acts like Charlastor/Radiobelle is the worst ship in existence?

(This post is going to be pro Charlastor and contains anti Radioapple if you have a problem with it please either stop reading or at least stay respectful)

This is something which annoys me for a long time because the hate this ship gets is so over exaggerated in my opinion.

I am not saying that you are not allowed to dislike or hate this ship because i am myself someone who dislikes a ship sometimes for the silliest reason. But every time i see "what is the worst Hazbin Hotel and why is it Charlastor" or anything similar to it, I just can't take it serious anymore

This is why I am making this post to argue against some points which people always make against Radiobelle

"Alastor and Charlie have a Father-Daughter bond"

I already made a post why I dislike this whole trope but i write it here again because some people think this is Canon despite Alastor just acting like her father to annoy Lucifer. Because we only see Alastor acting like this in Dad beats dad and never before or after this again and Vivziepop even said it.

"Shipping Charlie and Alastor is WLW erasure and Charlie is with Vaggie"

This seems to be one of the main reason people are against Radiobelle but i think that something like this shouldn't be a problem because 1. Charlie is canonically Bi and so there shouldn't be a problem shipping her with a man and 2. Just because something is shipped in Fanon doesn't mean that the Canon ship is no longer Canon. Chaggie is Canon and I am happy about it because I love this ship too.

"That ship would be Toxic"

I have bad news to tell people but let's face it almost all Alastor ships are somehow toxic except maybe Radiorose. Alastor is not a good person and he would manipulate probably every person he mainly gets ship it like Lucifer or Vox, so I find it stupid to complain about this with only Charlastor

"The Age gap between the two are too huge, Alastor is too old for her"

This always make me roll my eyes because 1. Both are adults so who cares and 2. Charlie is canonically older than Alastor. For me this is always fandoms confusing naivity with being Childish.

"Alastor is canonically Ace"

Ace people can have romantic relationship too but if you don't feel comfortable with shipping him with others I won't say anything against it, I just dislike it when it gets comments it under fan art of any ship posts

This last part is just my opinion but I can't help thinking that this ship would be much more popular and wouldn't get that much hate if Charlie were a man or Alastor a woman. Image this whole scene

but with a male Charlie or any other male character. The fandom would have gone crazy and say how Alastor tried to seduce Charlie or tag it with "toxic yaoi". I already saw this whole scene redraw with Lucifer instead of Charlie and it was posted as Radioapple. I even think that if Alastor would be a woman she would be called a ace lesbian because Alastor in Canon dislikes men.

(Here starts the main anti Radioapple part so be warned)

Like I said I saw a pair scene redraw with Lucifer instead of Charlie with scenes between Charlie and Alastor and they often got posted under Radioapple and the fans loved it, so I wonder that Maybe people actually see romantic undertones between Charlie and Alastor but they just dislike Radiobelle or maybe just M/F ships so they just take Lucifer and swap him with Charlie so that they can have a M/M version

This post got longer than expected ups.

This was mostly a post for me to vent because I see sometimes people saying Charlastor is as bad as V*angel and it drives me crazy. Radiobelle isn't everyone cups of tea and that is OK but sometimes I see someone write under Charlie/Alastor fanart "I am just going to image it is Radioapple" or that what I hate at most when somebody makes fanchildren of them and shippers of radioapple use them for their ship and it makes my blood boil because for me this so disrespectful to the artist who put time and work in them.

[electriceyes]

Okk fair enough. A few things though.

1) I was talking about LIKELINESS, not appeal of the ship. I get the point about being a clean slate and bringing something special out though. But I was not talking about why people ship it more, but why do people act like it's the only possible canon thing. Neither will likely be canon!! Yeah the history may be rocky and hard to mend but also Alastor actually took a photo with Vox! Without having the filter messing up the photo! There was a LOT of trust. Good memories don't just suddenly disappear when things get rocky and messy. Relationships between friends get mended all of the time!

Point 2) Lucifer isn't special. I am 99% sure there is a Hazbin Hotel official comic with Alastor mumbling under his breath and cursing Vox out. That part definitely isn't special with Lucifer. Please correct me if I'm wrong about this though I've been trying to find it. Vox is another person who can get him cursing. Though not everyone has seen that comic so I get it.

(edit: HERE'S THE PAGE!)

3) Radiosilence. I'm not talking about the popularity I'm talking about people acting like it's the ONLY way their relationship can be seen. It's not. People exaggerate Vox's 'patheticness' so hard it's insane. He has a grip on the masses! People look for his opinion and adore him! The angelic security scene says as much. He has a good grip on everything except when it comes to Al. I'd say focusing on just the Al part does such a disservice to Vox's character, that Radiosilence shippers tend to do so often.

Like, toxic masculinity? Where did people GET THAT. He is hell's media darling, he is with the times! I've seen him turned into an incel so many times and that IRKS me. He's shitty sure but incel mentality? Let's take a step back.

4) I wasn't saying that the ship is inherently anti-Vox, it's that in RadioApple fiction they often use Vox and butcher his character to further their RadioApple story. The ship isn't Anti-Vox, but the way Vox is so often USED in the ship content is mmh.

I don't get how reciprocal RadioApple is seen as more canon or likely than Radiostatic and Radio silence is the only possible thing for VoxAl

Like hello?

I thought of the person who posted about differences in RDST and RDAP with hells greatest dad and stayed gone where vox and Al are put side by side but with a line while Al and Luci are against eachother

Like??? Vox and Al literally have imagery showing that *something* keeps them separated and hating eachother. That thought has a sister thought of "if it wasn't there, they would still be friends."

PEOPLE WHO WERE FRIENDS BEFORE AND IMPLIED TO BE COMPLICATED (meaning likely not just pure hate towards each other. There's still some good thoughts left. And the implication that just something is keeping them distant? That 'line'?) ARE WAY MORE LIKELY THAN (CURRENTLY) ACQUAINTANCES!!!!

*Disclaimer: This doesn't make either ship worse or better. People can play with these dolls however they like.