#Anti Megstiel

[crowley-the-1-true-king-of-hell]

This might be unpopular but I don't hate Megstiel. I like it as a "friend ship" and the kiss was hot because Mischa Collins and Rachel Miner sold it. Good acting plus Mischa spun Rachel Miner around because of her MS which added to the scene. But idk whether I agree with it romantically? It's a million times healthier than Destiel but there is an innocence to it, where it just feels weird to ship them together romantically. Because their relationship was strengthened on Cas being almost childlike

Don't get me wrong there was sexual tension between Meg and pre honey era Cas and perhaps if that was built upon I would ship it as a tertiary ship. Like Crowstiel > Crobby > Megstiel but the sexual tension is probably because Mischa didn't want Rachel to fall over from her MS. But the actual strengthening of their relationship happened with honey era Cas

The moment the show producers and directors chose to have Meg look after almost childlike Cas they changed the dynamic of the ship where I find it odd to ship them romantically and sexually. Because like I said the whole dynamic between them is different and it's hard to unsee that lol

Like does that make sense? Like before honey era Cas with the Cas and Meg kiss I wouldn't have found it weird if that relationship turned into more but the moment the directors and producers changed the dynamics of their relationship idk I guess it is really odd to see them as anything more than supportive friends after the directors and producers made that decision

[castielmacleod]

🥰🥰🥰🔥

[angel-fruitcake]

when one of my mutuals posts about a ship i don't love but i still support them and their opinions

[mewmewgirl101]

He loves doing that so much I. I bet if she scared him the lights would doLove how he loves he can do that She’s like( deep sigh) I’ll get another light blob. if meg walked in and was in some thing sexy he’d make lights and windows explode if she kissed him. She’d be all proud of her self

Look at the pure love in his eyes for her

I think it took every once of will power he had not to hug and hold her tightly and kiss her hard the second they found it cause it would have hurt her more even than she was reminds there kisses and shes she was so and he remembers the kiss i love it. He knows what she was talking about and he’s all for it I bet Dean told her what cass meant after Sam mostly said not too I to tell her. Am pretty sure know what happened after they played twister and she probably it probably happened a lot at the hospital.They loved each other so much there sweet cute together.I will never forgive crowly for killing Meg he probably knew Castile loved Meg and that Meg loved castiel that’s probably why Crowley did that stuff to her and killed her.He would’ve have done that or killed her if they didn’t.love each other.

I love them so much he took care her like she did him. He so gentle with her bandages should have kissed her bandages and left his lips there.and then her. But I love how he keeps rubbing them lovingly he so would have apologized every time his hissed in pain and pulled her hand back. He probably looked for her by asking demons and he probably tortured and killed them if he didn’t like there answer or made side comments or just ignored him after purgatory and angel tablet they went from hate to love and i love it so much.those are one of best love stories ever poor castiel i know they didn’t show but he probably held her close crying his eyes out even after he was out of tears apologizing for not being there and not being able protect her to heal her or bring her back. And ask her to come to him.

I laughed so hard when he said that then more when he had that huge grin on his face all proud of self

Just look at that huge grin on his faces he’s so cute with that smile on his face he was probably cracking his knuckles when he found out he could do that meg probably thought it was funny but pretend to act all cool about it. You know stuff happened between them cause he wouldn’t have said he’s aware he I can do that. If they didn’t and she wouldn’t have said anything if she didn’t know.The should have left hits like his hair being messy and shirt un done and tie lose shoes missing. And marks on his neck and shoulders and Megs lip stick smeared. And since he has no filter said something about. Dean would have been so proud and happy for him. Sam would have said sorry but we need your help then you can go back to what you were doing.

[cassierobinsons]

s6 demon!bela/dean/cas anyone?

[clairenatural]

you're outside calling him your "unicorn," I'm inside convincing him to break angelic mind control through the power of our love. we are not the same

[destielo]

i’m sorry

[clairenovalk]

it's so disgusting to think that at some point castiel was actually into meg........... like did i dream that forced heterosexual hookup or

[shieldmaiden4444]

The Offensive Humanization of Castiel

A profound bond? 

I miss the early days of Castiel when Castiel would treat Dean like the lower life form he really is.  

Personally I found it much more respectful when Castiel was referred to in fearful whispers as an “it.” It is an entity that happened to occupy a human man.  If I were brave enough, I would probably use “it” IRL.  

Its true form is something Dean has never seen.  Its true voice is something Dean has never heard.  In other words Dean has only ever met Castiel’s masked self.  

Dean has never seen Castiel as anything other than a human man with superpowers he can exploit.  This made me uncomfortable as an autistic person with what I call internalized capitalism/ableism.  

Dean has never shown any interest in learning about angels: Castiel’s family, Enochian, angel politics, angel culture.  

The few times Dean is forced to confront the notion of Castiel as not human, he fails spectacularly and responds with bigotry and prejudice.  

I found the time when Dean tried to get Castiel to sleep with someone to be deeply uncomfortable as a sex-repulsed asexual.  It seemed more like corrective rape than a nice bonding experience.  

I found the notion that Castiel needed Dean to fix it personality wise offensive as an autistic person.  

Castiel has never referred to itself as “Cas,” but has voluntarily used Clarence as an alias.  

It is canon that gender does not matter to “Meg.” Perhaps name does not either.  

Megstiel, therefore is not a straight pairing.  

[mewmewgirl101]

ANTI DESTIEL SHIPPERS IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH ME DO NOT LEAVE I COMMET IF YOU LEAVE A MEAN HATEFUL OR NEGATIVE COMMENT IT WILL GET DELTED CAUSE I DONT NEED OR WANT YOUR NEGATIVELY. IF YOU LEAVE A NICE COMMENT I WILL GLADLY POST IT ON HERE WITH YOUR USERNAME WITH YOUR PERMISSION OF COURSE

Megstiel is the best ship even god agrees. But Crowley doesn’t want Castile to be happy cause he’s a demon and he hates angels

Megstiel is the best ship ever.cass wants revenge on Crowly.and if nattily knew cass was in love with meg we all know she would make cass kill meg over and over.after she came back I was like noooooooo I thought they killed the b****if they can bring that b**** back. Why couldn’t meg come back.love how her picked to stay at the hospital with Meg many times instead of going to heaven or with Dean. And looked at her with so much love when Dean and Sam came to Visit. Or how happy he was saw Meg and not Dean. in the empty but looked so broken when it wasn’t really her. And how kissing her was a good memory. And if they lived through getting the angel table have ordered pizza and moved furniture if you know what I mean and she loved him

I got a Very mean comment in the comments even though I put a lot of different ways to anti deastiel tags so i don’t get hate from people who do ship them. to show I don’t ship them. and lots of different types of pro megstiel tags and other tags to show ship megstiel hard.😡and I make it very clear I only ship megstiel so I don’t get hate about that either.I want to put something mean for people who deliberately leave hate. But I am lady

I hate When people leave mean comments and even though you put very specific tags so that doesn’t happen. But happens away Do they look it up just so they can be mean or something and leave a negative comment to make people feel bad. I would say some thing mean but as I said before I am a lady

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[wearingsunglassesindoors]

Me: no ship hate please. Live and let live xoxo

Also me: man, (insert notp here) suuuucks only idiots ship thatttt!!!

[eisforeidolon]

If what the actor says about there character determines what they are, then hellers need to quit saying Dean is bi/gay/queer, because Jensen has said Dean is straight.

You would think, but that would be a logical conclusion. We're not talking about logic, though, just entitlement and belligerent belief in their own inherent rightness.

At the of the day, it's not even what the actors say about their characters that counts to them, it's ONLY what they like that the actors say. It's why Jared's and Jensen's opinions pretty much never count. It's why they ignore about half of what Misha says to just cherry pick what validates what they've decided to believe is The Truth anyway.

Misha has said Castiel isn't gay, but they insistently label him "the gay angel". Misha has said Dean never reciprocated, but they skimmed over that to fixate on him saying Dean "had love in his eyes". Misha said back in the day that he and Jensen played into the ship, which makes it 100% true - Jensen calling him a liar is a joke or NDAs or Jensen not understanding acting or whatever. Misha saying the writers were intentionally inserting the ship for years and years is also totes true, Robert Singer refuting that is just some suppressive conspiracy. Misha later saying that actually he knew they'd never even considered even hinting at the ship legitimately before he cooked up one last big queerbait for season 15 with Bobo the Assclown is, um, ooh, look over there, bisexual cake! They also conveniently forget all the times he teased them with things that never panned out - like implying Castiel's sex scene with April would be with Dean. As well as all the times that he used to regularly tease megstiel and wincest back in the day - it's REAL when it's their ship, the rest is jokes! Even with Misha, it only counts when it fits their narrative, and Misha himself has all the consistency of a gloopy three week old mystery stew found at the back of a fridge.

[winchesterish]

wincestie or heller you HAVE to admit castiel's character was robbed of anything better when they decided to fuck around with the destiel idea. cas deserved better than to be reduced to some blundering fool who just did everything for dean because he was 'in love.' cas was a complex character who gradually turned into a joke while dean & sam's bond was beat to shit every season and stayed just as strong.

[musclesandhammering]

I read the ask about "gay Cas." Respectfully, I disagree that the so-called confession was unambiguously romantic - and I am not one of "the straights," I'm a member of the LGBTQ+ community myself. I do think it was intended to be readable that way, as a nod to shippers, while not being something that can ONLY be read that way. The problem is that they were - perhaps unwittingly - giving that nod to the biggest bullies in the fandom. While your other anon may have encountered mostly people using "gay" for Cas as an umbrella term, I've seen people literally saying "he only likes men" to taunt and bully people like me, a Megstiel shipper/Megstiel endgame truther (they DID end up in the Empty together, so my ending's as likely as anyone's). The same people will refuse to acknowledge fact that Cas was very clearly shown to still have feelings for Meg in Season 15 and even try to insist that all of their previous romantic interactions no longer count but claim that I MUST concede that Cas was *in* love with Dean. I don't, and I don't think you have to either.

Disclaimer that I am also an anti-Dean megstiel-shipping member of the lgbt community, so I’m very biased in your favour, BUT.. I completely agree with everything you said here.

I sort of saw the confession scene as the writers blatantly pandering to the d*stiel shippers to try to gain more publicity (because the writers are trash and don’t actually gaf about the show and that’s absolutely something they’d do), but I sort of agree with what you said- that they probably meant it to be open to interpretation so as not to piss off any one group of fans. Which is annoying and cheap, but… so is most of the show. So.

I also agree that- while I can concede that there are a number of people just using “Cas is gay” as a shorthand for “Cas is a member of the queer community in some way”- the vast majority of people saying it are d*stiel shippers (because they make of a majority of the fandom, let’s be honest) that wanna rub it in the face of all the rest of us that “SEEEeeEEeeeE!!! CaS Is ONLY iN lOve wItH DEEEAAAN!!!” Which is annoying as hell because A.) Cas IS a member of the queer community, but he absolutely is not a homosexual male- which is what they claim- and his identity ends of getting ignored because a lot of the ones claiming him as lgbt are doing it in such a fetishistic and reductive manner B.) There’s no evidence Cas was ever in love with Dean whatsoever up until the confession scene and plenty of evidence that they straight up hate each other, and C.) Castiel CANONICALLY was attracted to and cared about Meg. Like… that’s not up for dispute, that’s not a matter of opinion. That was intentionally written into the script. You can argue that it was an unhealthy relationship or that it was a poor plot choice or whatever, but it WAS canon. Period.

But anyway…

[clairenatural]

okay i’m putting these together because LMAO the dichotomy, and also because my response to both is the same

First of all: I don’t ship m*gstiel!! (sorry second anon. i wouldn’t consider myself a m*gstiel anti, tho. you do you. my only qualm w it is when people try to start it in the hospital in s7 because of obvious consent issues)

I’m not implying (or at least, not intentionally) that people only dislike meg and cas because of a blanket dislike for cas having outside relationships, which is why I very carefully did not put meg in my first post about people hating hannah and kelly and jack, because yeah. people have very valid reasons to not like meg and want her far away from cas. Sorry if it sounded like that!

what I do think is there was the *potential* for her to develop further (in the tags of that post I clarified that i dont think her redemption was done when she died, but I would’ve liked to see that) and the potential for their friendship to be fascinating and mutually beneficial and I’m disappointed the show didn’t even try.

but honestly I wasn’t trying to make a statement on m*gstiel asdhasjdkasd i just really want cas to have friends ): and, to me, meg and hannah are the two biggest missed opportunities for that