#anti reylo

[the-pretty-corpse]

This is what’s happening. Little man throw out the big bad ‘C’ word and a whole bunch of ‘fuck you’s’ and think that’s going to deter me

Fortnite loves Finnrey

[fantastic-nonsense]

reylos crying on twitter because Adam Driver explicitly confirmed that Bendemption was never originally in the plans for Kylo....this is justice for the last 8 years, actually

[darthteeth]

good morning🙂‍↕️

[assiraphales]

not to dredge up old discourse but its still legitimately such a tragedy that rey, one of the only main female protagonists in star wars, had so much potential and her story was reduced thru fandom & writing choices to a toxic relationship with a genocidal whiny ass man. she deserved so much more as a character, and could have been so much more 

[punkeropercyjackson]

'Real intellectuals in fandom love complex ships'And the complexity is rape culture

[icedsodapop]

Why having a literature landscape monopolized by published Reylo fanfiction is not good:

The whole publishing Reylo fanfiction is also getting much more racially diverse because you are also seeing women of colour like Thea Guanzon and Molly X. Chang join in the fray, and their books are led by characters of colour to reflect their authors as well. However, this adds on another problem where the veneer of racial diversity of the recent slate of published Reylo fanfiction lends even more legitimacy to the genre even if the representation is... questionable, subpar and dangerous at worst.

[oliviabear]

leslye and manny so so funny. "we never really see that in the dark side" "i dont even think this is good girl against bad guy" IM CRYING THEY RLLY SAID FUCK REYLO AIDJJSJSJSKKSKSJ i cheered

[willow-lark]

there is nothing cool or sexy about kylo ren he literally fucking sucks. like yeah anakin was also a homicidal facist but the difference is anakin was camp. he was hot while doing it. he had the dramatic flair. he’s badass. he’s intimidating. he’s the most iconic movie villain of all time. kyle is literally just an emo neo nazi. there is zilch that is interesting about his character. sorry for speaking the truth

[third-generation-female-warrior]

Okay, so, fair warning, this is an anti-Reylo, anti-Kylo Ren, long analysis of The Acolyte, so if you choose to read this and get mad at me for bashing Kylo Ren, that's called a you problem.

Basically, seeing people compare the "situationship" between Quimir and Osha with whatever the fuck Reylo was and putting them on equal pedestals gives me the ick and I think I figured out why.

For clarity, I can't fucking stand Reylo for a lot of reasons, but for the sake of my analysis, I'll keep it condensed for why I can't stand Kylo Ren.

He is the warm mayonnaise of characters.

Don't get me wrong, he was generally interesting in The Force Awakens, when he was framed as the monster with a human face, and that's because the narration in TFA treated him like the goddamn villain he was supposed to be.

And then the pants were shat and the spine was broken when the narrative with The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker was doing backflips on a trampoline trying to give him pathos, trying to make him empathetic, while also decimating literally every other character to put him on a pedestal he didn't deserve on his spit-washed "redemption" arc.

To me, it was like they didn't know what to do with him. Those movies might have been okay if they just stuck with making him the villain and continued to treat him as such. But they didn't, even when he was making bad choices and did nothing but make BAD choices up until the actual last fight, and instead, framed all of this BAD CHOICES as "he's complicated~~ <3" and that's where it all fell apart because the narration didn't like, punish him AT ALL for making these bad and barely even framed these as objectively bad choices.

Now, the Acolyte is different.

In the middle of lavishing us with the eye candy that is Manny Jacinto, and Qimir's apparent lack of threat and honesty to Osha, the narrative did something interesting and brilliant that I hope they continue to lean into.

While showing us how non-threatening Qimir can be, we are given a very rude awakening.

When we cut back to Khofar, it is a very long, very uncomfortable lingering shot of Jekki's dead body, as she is positioned towards the audience with open eyes, not quite looking at the camera, but forcing us to look into the eyes of Jekki all the same.

It is a rude awakening, a reminder that Qimir is a deceiver, and, most importantly THE VILLAIN OF THE SHOW!!!!

Under the facade of the hapless sidekick to Mae was the Sith Master waiting to strike her down should she fail.

A reminder that, through his honesty and intentions with not harming Osha, he is a murderer who could remorselessly justify his own slaughter of an actual child.

We look on as it shows Yord in the dirt, and the pile of dead Jedi bodies and we see that what Qimir has done was terrible and devastating he does not care, even if we do.

And THEN, ohohoh!!! AND THEN! We see how his dark deeds were not solely committed on Khofar, but he is continuing to do terrible things on Ahch-To the Unknown Planet.

Oh, we thought, we thought Osha was safe because she could pin him with his own lightsaber, she could kill him, she could leave!

But it becomes very evident in the last 30 seconds that Osha was never safe as she puts on his helmet, surrounds herself in dark, and symbolically succumbs to it as she closes her eyes.

He has been corrupting her this whole time and that's treated AS A BAD THING, and THAT'S where The Acolyte succeeds and The Sequels failed!

Qimir for his apparent defensiveness, is still treated as the villain, his act of corruption and seducing Osha to the dark side is treated as a scary thing, where you shake your head at the t.v. and beg her to not do it even if you know she's going to anyways.

And then you realize the answer to his riddle to Mae.

You realize this is how you kill a Jedi without a weapon.

And it's all very very wrong.

And, better yet, to finish this off, even though the narration establishes MOTIVE for his anti-Jedi stance, with his scar leading to his supposed backstory of betrayal (that we have to take at face-value for now, even if I think there's more to reveal), the motivation is just narratively justifying him or his actions, and he is STILL THE VILLAIN WHO MUST BE STOPPED!!

[stylesmilky]

What the fuck reylos. Our Miguel is right here:

[rowinablx]

We were supposed to actually get Rey and Poe but Rian Johnson forced Reylo in??!???

[darthteeth]

The thing is villain x heroine IS interesting at it can be done well(honestly bad tropes are rare imo the execution is what makes or breaks them)but the way heterosexuals are going about it is all wrong.they keep skipping to the good part so to speak,you need right amount of time to build up the romance AND more importantly you need the heroine to be able to match his evilness,but they can never do that.

genuinely so tired of running into this trope just to see yet another scaryevilhypermasculineguy going after a super dainty small girlie who couldn't hurt a fly and it's like what are u doing??making gender roles 2.0??what is this?why do you want to protect her imagined innocence so bad,if she truly wants him the heroine can't be that good of a person.I get that "opposites attract"is a super common trope but I find it really nonsensical in hetero writing because it's always taken to such an extreme.so if u sit down for a second and really think about the relationship there is no way the characters in question would ever be into each other...

and when it comes to the osha/qimir ship yeah the chemistry is there-but it's mostly because the actors have strong chemistry not because the writing set it up well.ever since the last episode and the interview where the creator confirms the r*ylo inspiration dropped all I could think about is "man,osha is too independent for this shit".

Like that's one of her main characteristics/flaws that's why she couldn't handle the coven setting and honestly I bet it's partially why she left the jedi.she REALLY wants to be her own person but qimir REALLY craves codependency/strong loyalty which is way more of a mae's thing than osha's.but that would require an audience willing to empathize with a female characters that isn't """perfect""" and all of this is not touching how qimir seems so interesting/sinister and beyond whatever silly projection fans have of him idk idk idk we will see how this goes I guess 🫠

[mfshipbracket]

voting for reylo almost exclusively because i want someone's ship, someone's dearly beloved treasured ship, to be the one to lose to reylo

new threat for the arsenal: "i hope your otp loses to reylo"

[punkeropercyjackson]

I bring a sort of 'Men and by extension male characters deserve to be praised for going above and beyond for their female love interests,not doing the bare minimum or even actively treating them badly but changing their minds once they realize they want to date them and the latter is actually more male entitlement than enemies to lovers' vibe to fandoms that fake toxic masculinity haters don't really like

[icedsodapop]

Reylo and kylo ren asshole stans who harassed John Boyega and made his life hell really have no business going crazy over Manny Jacinto 😒😒

[jynjackets]

they’re not reylo because osha isn’t sidelined from the narrative to support his goals. from her perspective we see how it makes complete sense why someone like her, (a dedicated, loving yet outcasted former jedi) is questioning where she belongs. Qimir may want to use her and obviously feigning kindness to get her to trust him, but he also genuinely wants a pupil that unlocks the power of the dark side. And he sees that power in osha and it’s this obsession with her that’s undeniably tempting especially for someone who hasn’t quite been given back the loyalty and devotion that she openly offers.

its “toxic” because it’s supposed to be. and we love watching these dynamics unfold because they reflect the ugly truths of human nature. we do things to feel love even if it’s in artificial forms. we incessantly give with the illogical hopes that we might receive something back. how the dark side pulls someone such as osha therefore becomes realistic. and what is more appealing than to allow yourself recognition you never had. to let your emotions be unrestrained and even be your greatest strength. what else could you do when someone finally tells you that there’s more out there for you, and can grant you unspeakable power that’s always been just out of reach