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All you gotta do is not open this bag
#ANOTHER AEOLUS#epic the musical#epic the ocean saga#aeolus#aeolus epic#doodle dump#idk i just like to have an excuse to draw clouds
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my sixteenth century epic au where everything is pretty vague on the details except the piles and piles of aeolus sixteenth century epic au lore bc its my au and i can do whatever if like
(warning for a 30 tag yap in the tags but i can go on trust)
#op’s two cents#ooc#aeolia is france#olympus is britain#ody and the crew are nights from whatever european country i decide ithaca is#instead of a windbag aeolus gives them a royal seal of approval/crest of some sort#but the winions#who are just a flood of royal bastard children aeolus is stuck with bc she doesnt have a real job (just a girl 🥺)#dont get past the language barrier with the crew#and they think its the winions telling them to be wary of it in some weird ancient language#(theyre hungry and tired abd delirious give them a break)#and steal it from ody#and mind u aeolus doesnt seem trusrworthy bc she is far too trusting#her hair isnt even in a french hood😨 or even any kind of bonnet#just out#so untrustworthy#lady of the house but theres no lord? sus#so they take it from ody and then he gets in trouble bc rhat was gonna be his get out of jail free card with poseidon#king of whatever european country i decide#bc he blinded his son when he started to fight them for trespassing#and he already had a blind eye from another battle earlier in life#so now ody has to face poseidon and he puts most of his men in jail and is gonna sentence him to beheading#but he finds the seal or crest or whatever#and the leastrygonian guards helpinf poseidon are like well i mean hes got the thingg sooo#hes let go#and then hermes talks to aeolus and gets another one to give him in the vengeance saga equivalent#and then he uses that in his final fight with poseidon just outside of his countries boarders#also hes not a king here just a nobleman but its gonna be a rlly small powerless country im gonna choose#so the kings dgaf#and when he stabs poseidon with his own sword it humiliates him sm that he doesnt sentence ody to anything
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this girl ik who does classics at school asked me test her on her odyssey knowledge - she has atest when we get back - and i asked her who calypso was. and she said 'his wife right?'
i remember overhearing some classics students revising in libraray - they were extreemly loud rip - also say 'antonio was the one who killed the cows'
ANTONIO? IK THEY MEANT ANTINOUS BUT WHAT?
and he wasn't the one who killed the cows wtf
i was testing another girl with flashcards she made and on it, she thought polyphemus was aeolus' son??
one guy confused aeolus and eurylochus
idk if it's the students misremembering - it probably is - but WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY TEACHING YOU GUYS IN THAT SCHOOL?? HUH???
and another person ik who has all her knowledge correct has a really - i don't wanna say wrong cua every interpretation is valid or whatever - that athena helps odysseus cuz 'she simps for him and is a pick me'
GIRL WHAT?
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
i don't do classics but i've read the odyssey and consumed a lot of media interpretation of it, and i am flabergasted at how actual classics students at my school view it
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I’m gonna summarise Epic: the Musical songs in one sentence
The Horse and The Infant: the Greeks go stabby the Trojans and Odysseus has to kill a baby
Just a Man: Odysseus kills the baby lmao
Full Speed Ahead: you’re introduced to Odysseus crew and they’re all hungry
Open Arms: Polites shows Odysseus the world is kind
Warrior of the Mind: Athena enters Odysseus mind and mentors him
Polyphemus: they meet a polyamorous Polyphemus who wants to kill the crew for killing his sheep
Survive: The crew tries to kill Polyphemus but instead he pulled the uno reverse card
Remember Them: Cyclops go blind lmao
My Goodbye: Athena breaks up with Odysseus
Storm: A storm arises as Odysseus and the crew leave and find the wind God’s island
Luck Runs Out: Eurylochus questions Odysseus leadership
Keep your Friends Close: Aeolus gives Odysseus a bag with the storm and tells him not to open it but his crew opens it so bye bye Ithaca
Ruthlessness: Poseidon go 🌊 💥 on the crew and Odysseus manages to escape with 43 other men
Puppeteer: according to Eurylochus “woman scary”
Wouldn’t you Like: Hermes gives Odysseus drugs
Done For: Odysseus confronts Circe
There are other ways: Circe tries to seduce Odysseus but cos he’s a not cheating good guy he instead rants and somehow doesn’t die
The Underworld: Odysseus remembers all the deaths he’s gone through and has a mental breakdown
No Longer You: Tiresias reads the past and future and Odysseus has another mental breakdown
Monster: I’m the monster Rawr Rawr Rawr 🦖 🦖 🦖
Suffering: Sirens try to seduce Odysseus but fuck up miserably
Different Beast: Odysseus and the Crew go fuck up the sirens
Scylla: Odysseus fucks up 6 of his men
Mutiny: Eurylochus fucks up Odysseus and a Cattle from Helios
Thunder Bringer: Zeus goes fuck up the crew except Odysseus
#eggnog decides to swallow a log 😎👍#jorge rivera herrans#epic the musical#epic the troy saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the circe saga#the oddyssey#polyphemus#scylla
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Okay but either Aeolus felt really sorry seeing Athena get pummeled by Zeus, or Hermes had to do some real good convincing her to give him another bag xD
Hermes: come on darling pleaaaassseee
Aeolus: But they opened it last time! What if he does it this time! Such a waste of my powers.....
Hermes: He won't I pinky promise!!
Aeolus: ......Okay.
Six hundred strike:
Ody: *immediately opens the bag*
Hermes: *eating popcorn then freezes* O_O........
Aeolus: You owe me a loooooot of Olympus bucks, friend.
Hermes: hehe.....*drops popcorn and runs*
#epic the musical#epic musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic vengeance saga#epic poseidon#epic odysseus#epic spoilers#epic the musical spoilers#epic aeolus#epic winions#epic hermes
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excuse me but wouldn't aeolus be a hummingbird and not a lawn flamingo 🧐
Imagine Keep Your Friends close and it’s just high pitch mosquito noises
(They’ll be another bird soon!)
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Why didn't Odysseus's crew stage a mutiny against him in the Odyssey? (An analysis based on Homer's Odyssey)
It has been a while since the last time I did some Odyssey Analysis and here is an interesting question that goes on in this. A very valid question actually.
During the arduous trip in the Odyssey, the Cephallinians suffered greater loss than anything they suffered at the 10 year war at Troy. They lost almost all ships and all men were dying. They were reduced to a ship of a crew with less than 40 people and they didn't seem to get much hope. So of course one could ask; what was holding them back and didn't fight back against Odysseus apart from the indirect mutiny they did when he turned his eyes away from him to pray? Why their only mutiny was to disobey his orders and slay the cattle of Helios Hyperion? Surely more than 30 men could do plenty of damage to one man right? Why didn't they? And why is it important for the story?
So while thinking about it I came down with some possible explanations as to why that happened;
Odysseus was beloved to the gods
Regardless of their terrible situations, Odysseus probably still had the fame of someone beloved to the gods. He used to be directly communicating with Athena and was under her protection. Despite the fact that he was cursed by a god, there could be some sort of a thought running to their minds; what if we harm him and the gods strike us for it? What if there will be consequences for directly wishing harm to one who was blessed to be appreciated by gods? It could possibly be a risk that they didn't want to take. And it makes sense given how much Odysseus interracted even with minor gods during the trip (for example Aeolus or Circe). Quite frankly they might as well have wished that at some point Odysseus would appeal to yet another god for help.
Odysseus was beloved to his subjects
If you look at my other analysis here You can remember how beloved leader Odysseus was even to subjects such as slaves who in theory would have no real reason to be loyal to him. Odysseus seemed always to be a just and beloved leader and his men on the ship were not an exception. Regardless of whether they had lost faith hin him in his capability to bring him home or if they doubted his judgement, they couldn't get past the emotional connection; Odysseus had protected them during the war to the point of suffering the least possible losses, during the trip he was going to extreme measures to protect them (even the cruel misadventure in which Odysseus cut the rope from his ship to save the last ship from the Laestrygonians might as well have spoken volumes to the men that were saved). It would be hard for them to completely ignore that even in the face of mistrust. Somehow it would also be them thinking that they "owe him" till that part.
Odysseus was hiding stuff from them that could be important
Ironically the very source of their mistrust was protecting Odysseus. Odysseus didn't share with them the nature of the sack of Aeolus even if he seemed pretty clear that they couldn't touch it (and that led to their first tragedies). Later he hid the information that they would have to go through the Sirens till the very last moment where he warned them about it. Later he hid completely the information that they would go through Skylla and Charybdis. His men could think "How many more things did this man know on their way home and hid it from them?" if they captured or killed him in a mutiny how were they sure there weren't more dangers ahead that Odysseus was hiding from them and could either be informed the last moment or not at all? What guarantee did they have that Odysseus didn't know even MORE about their course? They had none. So ironically the very reason they began to mistrust him in the first place became the reason Odysseus was safe from their rage.
No one wanted to take responsibility at time of crisis!
Last and definitely not least comes for me the most important reason of all at least story-wise that shows how excellent writer Homer is into writing human nature. His men didn't stage a mutiny because no matter how displeased they were with his decisions, literally NO ONE wants to have the same responsibility to take decisions in time of crisis! Honestly, how many times do common folk feel themselves find a scapegoat usually to the face of their leaders when things go south? (and for good reason that is given that they are the ones with the responsibility to take decisions). When something goes wrong we blame the leader, the government or someone that has come forth and not only takes the decisions but also is responsible for the blame as well.
During their arduous trip Odysseus took some of the most painful decisions they could imagine in order to save what he could; he advised them to leave the Cicones and they didn't which led to their first tragedy; he tried to correct his mistake by appeasing the god Aeolus, he took the decision to sacrifice his ships in order to save the one he could knowing full well that they would never be able to fight against the Laestrygonians. He knew the 11 ships were lost cause so he acted fast cutting the ropes of his own ship and sailing away, making sure to save what he could even if that meant to the terrible loss. He traveled to the underworld even though he was alive, he chose Skylla over Charybdis knowing that the sacrifice would be too great but still not as great as to lose them all.
Regardless of their emotions at that moment; they put themselves in his shoes and realize that none of them would take the burden of leadership and take those decisions for them. Odysseus with his nerves of steel managed to save them so far even if they had so many losses and undoubtedly they realized that in his shoes they would never be able to act so efficiently and so fast. And knowing their own reactions against him; blaming him for the losses, they realize that none of them would have the guts to take not only the painful decisions but also the blame and hate that follows them. Odysseus was lifting on his shoulder as much hate and anger as very few others; not only his previous experiences at war and his actions but now his decisions of the trip. I have no doubt that even in their anger the men admired how he could carry it all.
Conlcusions:
Homer is a master of words and plot. I have no doubt that if he thought it served the plot he would have mentioned his men staging a full on mutiny against Odysseus or in one way I am almost certain he thought of the possibility being quite doable given as I said above that Odysseys was one man and the others were over 30. However knowing how great he is in protraying human emotions to his writing I think his choice of plot was deliberate.
Not only was Odysseus someone that could erupt not only controversy but also superstition given his close relationship with gods before, his leadership was always admirable regardless of the results (knowing his prudent nature and how plenty of his orders that were disobeyed ended up in a tragedy and let's face it Odysseus was also a brilliant fighter. I doubt anyone would easily take the first step to fight him one on one either!) and above all he was one of the best when it came on taking some really difficult decisions, carrying on his back not only the personal guilt he felt while taking them but also the anger of others and their retalliation. And in an amazingly human writing Homer speaks on times of crisis. When people do not wish to take responsibility at times of Crisis because they know full well that their decisions rarely ever would be painless!
Therefore they couldn't retalliate against him; they didn't want the responsibility of leadership or the blame for the losses. They didn't want to stand against authority directly either. So they took the indirect mutiny decision; when authority is not present they disobey or they break their will when the force of authority.
Could we perhaps one more time appeal to the usual theory of "unreliable storyteller" and speak on how Odysseus doesn't want to mention a mutiny in his story to Phaeakes because he doesn't want to appear as weak leader in their eyes?
We could but in my opinion this doesn't seem likely. Odysseus is already humiliated; shipwrecked and a beggar in their house. He mentioned how it was ellegedly his fault that the whole domino of reactions began when he mentions how he was yelling to Polyphemus being blasphemus that not even Poseidon could put him back together if he had killed him (which let's face it is too much given that gods had no probelm resurrecting some dead before). He had already mentioned his men not listening to him and disobedience was already a heavy thing. He didn't hide most of the unpleasant experiences during the trip so why miss the opportunity of shifting the blame to his men, saying that they stage a mutiny against him thus himself being unable to react instead of stating that he fell asleep during the prayer? To show that his men fear him so they do not dare to face him? Perhaps but it seems unlikely given the whole story in which Odysseus doesn't hide his bad sides from them.
What do you guys think? Let me know to your comments and reblogs below! ^_^
#katerinaaqu analyzes#greek mythology#odysseus#the odyssey#tagamemnon#odyssey#homeric poems#the odyssey 1997#the odyssey 1968#homer's odysseus#homer's odyssey#homer odyssey#homeric epics#homer odysseus#mutiny#homeric odysseus is just its own thing!#homer#odysseus comrades#elpenor#perimedes#eurylochus#polites#helios#cattle of helios#helios hyperion
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Ships I’ve seen on my FYP since I’ve started posting about Epic the Musical, also I’ve learned how to color text after 8 months of having Tumblr.
Canon:
Odysseus x Penlope
Eurylochus x ctimene
Telemachus x Nausicaa: I think that’s it
Calypso x Odysseus: put this because, kinda, and I don’t remember the context for the post just remember seeing
Circe X Odysseus
Ares X Aphrodite
Perimedes X Elpenor
Crack ships:
Odysseus x Poseidon x Zeus: this is completely my fault one of my friends told me about @anniflamma’s "manwhore au" and I though, "There's no way this is real," only now to be living the akira meme whenever pops up on my FYP
Antinious x Calypso: first saw this on @irunaki’s blog, but the supports do make a good argument for it. Quote, “they match each other’s freak.” Can’t argue with that
Diomedes x Odysseus: Idk how this started or who first subjected me to this, but I know why I’ve seen it. I made ONE, say it again ONE post with Diomedes and Odysseus hanging out as friends and the algorithm said, “you wanna see them kiss don’t you.” Either way pop off I guess and have fun DioXOdy fans out there.
Polites X Odysseus: once again kinda makes sense, or atleast I can see how this started, because the song cut song Your Light 100% gives of gay vibes
Hermes X Odysseus: I think I’ve see like one post regarding this, but still.
Artemis X Aeolus: Once again Don’t know who started this one but I remember first seeing this on @irunaki’s blog. Also, one of my favorite pieces of art comes from @sloanslone because it’s so cute.
Aeolus X Hermes: Don’t remember if this is an actual ship or not but it does have a ship name. Coming from another banger piece art by @sloanslone there relationship is called Cinnamon I believe
I feel like I’ve seen some with Apollo X someone, but don’t remember.
Siren X Athena: this Banger comes from @coquexari and I absolutely love this one. It’s just been presented in such a cute way that I love it. And the art she’s made for it is also really cute.
Circe X Calypso: Once again first saw this one on @irunaki’s blog, but I will say I haven’t seen it since the wisdom saga came out.
Eurylochus x Ares: by @thequeenofthedisneyverse
Eurylochus x Zeus
Eurylochus x random guy that gets eaten by Scylla: by @calciumyum
Aeolus X Apollo
Telemachus x antinious: It does exist, but I don’t remember where I’ve seen it
Diomedes x Odysseus x Penelope: Hi @wolfythewitch
Also I’ve seen Femboy Telemachus
Gotten Hades (game) ship art
Etc etc.
#memes#meme#funny memes#lol memes#relatable memes#tumblr memes#epic the musical#greek gods#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#epic the musical fandom#shipping#crack ship#crackship#epic odysseus#epic telemachus#epic penelope#epic polites#epic perimedes#epic poseidon#epic zeus#epic antinous#epic athena#epic eurylochus#epic ares#epic Circe#epic aphrodite#epic aeolus#epic apollo#epic antinious
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This sucks so bad I need to [remembers suicide jokes only worsen my mental health] ask Aeolus for another bag of winds
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"Everything's Changed Since Polites"
In light of the extensive re-litigation of the events of Storm Saga after the Thunder Saga, I find myself thinking about "Keep Your Friends Close" a lot recently, and how I think Odysseus was set up for failure from the get-go, and not because of his crew being bad.
Polites's absence is felt like a knife in Storm Saga but the whole gang is feeling it. When "Luck Runs Out" comes up, this is the first time Eurylochus has seriously questioned Odysseus's plan in the musical; probably the first time he's seriously questioned him in over a decade. And what passes between them is pretty telling to me.
Where is this coming from, my friend? I just don't wanna see another life end You're like the brother I could never do without And suddenly, you doubt that I could figure this out?
From what I've seen, Epic takes the approach that Odysseus, Polites, and Eurylochus have been together since they were children. Polites is Odysseus's best friend, but he was Eurylochus's friend too, and he's the first of all of them to die in battle since Odysseus started leading them. They're both reeling from that loss, but how it comes out is bad for both of them. Eurylochus, as we see, is someone who locks down when he's shaken; focus on immediate safety for his shipmates even if it prevents a better course of action (run when the other cyclopses show up, the food is not worth having to take on another dozen Polyphemus; get the crew the fuck away from the sexy witch before she turns the rest of them into pigs; avert starvation NOW deal with (more) angry gods LATER). He does not want Odysseus to get hurt dealing with something as dangerous as a god, and tries to express that. Odysseus withdraws into himself and lashes out at anything that tries to reach him when he's shaken; he's already lashed out at Athena when she takes him to task while he's still grief-striken over Polites, and here he doesn't hear his brother saying "please don't be reckless, I can't lose you too", he hears "you weren't good enough to bring everyone home, and we don't believe in you anymore." He's cold and dismissive to Eurylochus's doubts to cover for his own hurt, and that just makes those doubts worse.
It's exactly the wrong mindset to approach Aeolus in, and this is the part I've really been turning over in my head. Aeolus's game does sound too easy; all he's gotta do is not open the bag, while sailing on a ship staffed by 43 men he's been leading for ten years, many of whom he's probably known his entire life. The winions add the obvious catch in that they spread a rumor among the crew that the bag is a treasure Odysseus is keeping to himself before Odysseus can explain himself, but I think in many ways Aeolus's whole song is putting a finger on the scales. Aeolus, in presenting it to Odysseus, implies that some of his brothers are enemies and should be treated as such, and the winions, spreaders of mischievous whispers, keep telling him "never really know who you can trust." (And imply he should kill and sacrifice when it's convenient, the act that ultimately destroys all trust in the crew down the road.) And I think that's a malicious twist in the game just as much as "It's treasure~! Buh-bye!" :D
Odysseus went up to the island feeling sore and defensive after his last talk with Eurylochus, and when he's told to keep his friends close and his enemies closer, it's interesting to me that he doesn't think "I don't have any enemies on that ship, those men are my brothers" or even "who can I trust to help me with this?"
He thinks "I need to do this entire thing myself." It could be hubris, a quality Odysseus certainly doesn't lack for, but I think this is the shadow of Polites not being there again. Odysseus had to leave some of his men behind for the first time in ten years, and he thinks he's lost their faith because of it. He's guided to expect a betrayal and feels like he needs to do something amazing all on his own to show Eurylochus and the others he's still got it, Polyphemus was a fluke.
Part of my understanding of human nature has been that people respond to our expectations and treatment of them. I sincerely believe if Odysseus had taken Eurylochus and/or a few of his most trusted men into his confidence for managing the bag, the temptation to open it would have been greatly diminished or negated. Odysseus doesn't treat any of his friends as if they're worthy of his trust, because Aeolus got in his head and he's trying to prove something to himself and to them by doing this singlehandedly. However, people respond to how you treat them, and Odysseus not realizing the crew are just as shaken by Polites's loss as he is and treating them with suspicion makes worry fester into doubt.
Polites's loss is felt keenly again; he's not there to tell Odysseus he can relax, that kindness is brave and he should trust in his friends to support him instead of treating them like potential enemies (Ody remarks on being unopposed as if he was expecting otherwise, which is not the relationship he's had with the crew up to now), and he's not there to reassure Eurylochus and the crew Odysseus must have a good reason for his cagey, secretive behavior and they shouldn't listen to the winions continuing to suggest a little peek to make sure of things wouldn't hurt. (I take the continued presence of the winions in the song to imply they're harassing the crew with rumor the entire time Odysseus is keeping to himself and trying not to sleep.) I don't think Eurylochus would have wanted to look in the bag if he was brought in on protecting it, that's not his relationship with Odysseus, but when they're nearly to Ithaca, Odysseus hasn't said a word to anyone in days, nobody really knows what's going on but there's all these rumors flying and the Captain's acting strange...
It would not surprise me if Epic's interpretation is similar to the Odyssey where they're almost back when the bag opens, in which case it might be even more tragic as an Orpheus & Eurydice twist; I don't think it was a case where the bag would've been opened the moment Ody turned his back, I think he stayed awake for nine days out of wholly unjustified paranoia/trying to make a point he's still got it by doing everything himself, and Eurylochus and the crew celebrated too early when their destination was in sight. They thought they were home, there's no harm in having a look now, right? Wrong; Aeolus (probably deliberately) didn't specify when it would be safe to open the bag, and certainly didn't feel the need to warn Odysseus the magic winds inside would blow them miles away from where they opened it. Like Orpheus makes it out of the underworld and then ruins his hard work because he looks back just before Eurydice has, I suspect the crew was not trying to open the bag during the days Odysseus was depriving himself of sleep to watch it; it's at the seeming end of the journey that "they wanna get the bag open so they can have closure." Like most bad ideas, it is likely Eurylochus did what he did when it didn't seem like there was any obvious harm in it; Odysseus said don't open the bag until we're home, but Ithaca's in sight, what could it hurt to celebrate a little early?
To make a long story short, I think Ody and the boys were hosed with the wind bag trial from the start without Polites around, and it's not just because the crew fell for a rumor introduced to make the game harder and Eurylochus eventually acted on it; it's also because a god Ody just met told him not to trust his friends, and he believed the god he just met instead of them because he's still mourning his best friend and misread his other best friend's concern for his safety as a sign his leadership was faltering. God games are rarely if ever fair; the house always wins, and it's a lesson Ody learns slowly and painfully.
I'm also not gonna do another long post about my point that people, Odysseus included, keep forgetting making it back to Ithaca with Poseidon still royally pissed at them would've been very very bad, but making it back to Ithaca with Poseidon still royally pissed at them would've been very very bad!
#epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#epic the storm saga#storm saga#thunder saga#epic odysseus#epic eurylochus#epic polites#jorge rivera herrans#long post#something something hubris is when you play a game with a god without the understanding you are going to lose badly
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*shadow squawked*
{open Starter} shadow
*X isn't around it's just shadow*
What do you do?
(tags @sourlemon4life @acezinspace @emdabitchass @urbestestwindgod )
(I just thought of it and it was funny)
#oh ok#here's another headcanon I have#Aeolus can't stay still#so in the middle of the conversation#Aeolus will move from one sure to the other side
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the seven (+ nico and reyna) if they were children if minor gods/goddesses
percy - i'm not gonna lie, it was so hard to find a minor god for percy. the best one i found is basically just another god the sea: nereus. he was a son of primordial gods; gaea (sorry for that, percy, omg 😭) and pontus, primordial god of the ocean. anyway, nereus was also a god of wisdom, prophetic visions (so it would kind of make sense for percy to be a 'prophecy child' if his dad was a prophecy god ig), and change. also! nereus valued loyalty (and, if we excuse demigod children lmao, he was loyal to his wife), and loyalty is percy's fatal flaw.
annabeth - themis, the greek goddess of justice, order, and overall fairness (not unlike nemesis), which are all values that i think annabeth holds close to her. themis is also depicted to be extremely wise (and sometimes she's also called a goddess of wisdom), another trait that annabeth believes in.
jason - aiolos, roman god of the wind (the greek version is aeolus). he's also known as the 'keeper of the four winds,' meaning he also controlled storm winds, so jason would likely have similar powers to children of jupiter. also, his name means 'quick-moving.' jason already has powers relating to storms and winds (those are his main powers, other than lightning), and being a son of aiolos would likely just increase his power over wind.
leo - i honestly couldn't find any minor gods that suit leo, but i think pallas, greek god of warcraft/handcrafts (and in some cases - 'useful arts,' which i'm taking to mean machines/mechanics, etc.). pallas is often also related to athena, goddess of wisdom, but i believe he's depicted as more of a 'quick-thinker,' which suits leo a lot.
piper - psyche, greek goddess of the soul; she's described, in mythology, as a mortal-turned-goddess whose beauty rivalled aphrodite's. the goddess represents passions, as well as misfortunes. this means piper could likely still have charmspeak because of psyche's close relation/similarity to aphrodite.
hazel - i feel like this one's sort of obvious; hecate. not only is she goddess of the mist and magic, but also ghosts, so hazel would have similar powers to a child of hades/pluto. hazel is already shown to have powers over the mist, and hecate is often associated with gemstones/crystals, which hazel can also already control.
frank - i really couldn't find many gods for frank, but i think honos, the greek god of honour, works well. he also represents glory, and in some cases, bravery. these are all some of frank's best qualities - ones that he himself actually values a lot too. additionally, honos symbolises victory and achievement, which are more qualities that frank would need for his role as praetor, etc.
nico - ok. so. the best one i could find was erebus; primordial god of shadows and darkness. he's also the god of a particularly dark part of the underworld, so it's likely he'd also have control over ghosts and bones (like nico does). this probably also means children of erebus could shadow-travel. and, although he isn't always perceived as powerful, erebus is. one interesting thing about erebus - even though he is not explicitly evil, his name is often used interchangeably with tartarus (which, if we're talking about experiences with tartarus: this could be an added factor as to why nico went to tartarus so confidently. if he didn't know enough about his father, he might've assumed he could be okay through tartarus.)
reyna - fides, roman goddess of loyalty and trust. fides is said to represent everything 'required for honour and credibility.' throughout the heroes of olympus, it's clear that honour and trust are two things reyna values deeply. it's also said that fides embodies everything needed for soldiers in rome, which, as praetor (for a long time), reyna is to be considered a soldier of new rome. additionally, loyalty and faithfulness are two qualities valued by artemis and her huntresses.
#ok but piper as a daughter of psyche omg <3#i really wish we got to see more children of minor gods/goddesses#because its kind of boring that the seven are all just children of the 12 olympians#LIKE CMON THERE ARE SUCH COOL MINOR GODS#anywho#thank you wikipedia for helping figure out who the gods are 🙏🙏#percy jackson#annabeth chase#jason grace#leo valdez#piper mclean#hazel levesque#frank zhang#reyna avila ramirez arellano#nico di angelo#greek mythology#greek gods#roman gods#roman mythology#riordanverse#percy jackson and the olympians#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson and the heroes of olympus#heroes of olympus#pjo#hoo#toa#pjo hoo toa#pjo hoo#lemme know if you have any ideas for gods that would fit any of the characters better 😭🙏
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Okay look, I've never really read Greek mythology (my only exposure is EPIC the musical and I've never read The Odyssey or The Illiad so bear with me) but I feel like Odysseus is cursed to always suffer. Not in the same sense Cassandra or Sisyphus are actually cursed, but in an almost unwritten rule sort of thing. Like, how much of an unlucky bastard do you gotta be to constantly be thrown around by one god to another. How are the gods so involved in his life. First is Athena, which fair enough, she chose him as her champion. That one wasn't a problem. But then he runs into Polyphemus, who is POSEIDON'S SON. which, talk about unlucky. then he runs into Aeolus, which also wasn't actually a problem until the crew fucked around and found out with the wind bag, then he runs into Actual Poseidon, gets most of his crew obliterated and then yeeted to CIRCE'S island after that, because of course he does. Only after he found out his leftover crew ran into Circe of all people and was about to go confront her, does he run into Hermes who genuinely has no reason to be here and doing all this besides maybe helping his great grandson and also for entertainment purposes. Then he runs into Circe and it turns out she's pretty chill actually when she realized that he really just wants to go home and not stick around to do anything bad. Anyway, they don't run into any gods for like a saga and a half, which is a new record really, but shit still goes wrong because Of Course It Does and THEN Eurylochus tries to kill one of Helios' cows and then fucking ZEUS comes in to chime in and give Ody the illusion of choice (where he'll suffer no matter what he chooses). Zeus is literally just taking the piss out of this whole thing, and when Odysseus makes his choice, he STILL gets fucked over by being sent to CALYPSO'S island and being stuck there for SEVEN YEARS. Like, at that point it's just Zeus being petty. I'm more surprised that we don't have more scenes of Odysseus breaking down in tears during the entire musical. He's just being used like a ragdoll and thrown around.
Like. Odysseus' story is only a tragedy for everyone involved. It's actually a comedy of error for all the gods who are watching.
#epic the musical#i like ody. hes such a wet sobbing mess of a man#which. i do not blame him for. considering what he goes through#like the gods like throwing him around and ripping him to shreds like a chew toy#especially poseidon. dude gets TWO songs where he fucks over Odysseus#contrast that with Hermes who gets two songs all about helping Odysseus#it's really funny to me how much the gods just put this man through the wringer (thunder bringer reference)#anyway. unsure if i should tag the Odyssey in this one because. technically it is but also not#I'll tag it just in case#if yall wanna tell me about interesting facts regarding the Odyssey; feel free to say!#Odysseus#the odyssey#greek myth#the fire burns
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Technically I do as well, Spring quite often starts off Hurricane Season in some areas-
Aeolus?
hi lesser-evil twin :3! are you single because i am and if you arent but i am im gonna knock out an entire city with some light aggression breezes
Hiiii! I am, but I thought you'd be asking about Zephyros, not me, hehe-
Hey! *Zephyros blushes*
#should i specify deaths bc it occurred to me but idn if thats obvious or not#<- It is obvious once I remember it's Aeolus#but my knee-jerk reaction was#“OH NO NOT ANOTHER ZEUS”
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ALLRIGHT SO the EPIC the Musical cover art video will be out in the next days (got a birthday today to be in so), but worry not, it will be up soon. Sorry for lots of the delays on these days, one thing and another, the wifi dead for an entire day, but i'll catch up really quick with the schedules :3. So tomorrow i will post the sketches for thoose covers and soon the video, BUT NOW! Here some of the first sketch and idea i made for the design of the gods and characters from EPIC the Musical. I already posted their final version, so it's just a little inside easter egg :3 . Let me know what you think of them!
ps. My version of Epic it's all Sci-Fi style, inspired also a little on the Treasure Planet, for making you an example.
If you wanna see their final version, you can see all of them in this 2 videos on Youtube!
First Odysseus
First Aeolus
First Poseidon
First Hermes
First Hera
First Zeus
First Athena
#youtube#artists on tumblr#character design#concept art#redesign#digital artist#pngtuber#digital art#digital drawing#digital illustration#sketch#greek gods#epic the cyclops saga#portal#epic the vengeance saga#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#epic odysseus#epic the thunder saga#epic the musical fanart#epic musical#jorge rivera herrans#oddyseus#first draft#greek mythology
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heyo! back on my bs (biscuit soliloquy) with another art idea;
was reading about iris instead of paying attention in class as one does lol and found this gem and instantly thought of u hehe
THEYRE COUSINS >:D iris and aeolus shenaningans pls and ty!!!
also from todays reading: thetis is actually super cool and sweet (she took in hephaestus after hera yeeted him and also dionysus) and hermes has astronomy as a domain of his which i think is pretty cool. also! disease & sudden deaths are surprisingly an apollo and artemis thing. whodve thunk :)
anyway tysm, enjoy, and take care!!
Shenanigans! Also a lot of gossip
#i made an iris design on the spot but i think i love it#idk she’s the goddess of rainbows and that’s all I know about her#I think she’s connected to hera somehow but idk#i need to learn my mythology you guys#epic the musical#greek mythology#the odyssey#homers odyssey#my art#my doodles#if you want me to draw more stuff then pls ask
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