#ALSO THE TIMELINES MATCH UP AND THAT DRIVES ME INSANE

[looney-mooney-studio]

Thinking about that one joke in the Book of Bill that implied Bill might be the biological father of the Flynn kids. Thinking about how Linda Flynn had a secret career as a famous astrophysicist at one point. Thinking about how we don’t know exactly what Bill was doing in the 90s, and how he seems to want to skim over that part of his life, after Ford broke up with him for good but before the twins showed up in Gravity Falls.

Thinking about how Bill frequently hung out with famous musicians. Thinking about Linda, a brilliant young woman fresh off a bizarre pop star career, wanting to make a name for herself that ISN’T Lindana, might have found a new direction with an old friend (before he showed her his true colors.)

Thinking about Bill, fresh off a devastating breakup, trying again one more time to get SOMEONE on Earth to make him a portal. Trying to make the plan WORK. Trying to get a home for his friends in the face of a home dimension that was being destroyed (again). Having someone who’s COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the man he was obsessed with, but who was no less brilliant and no less capable. (But, unfortunately for him, MUCH less gullible.)

Thinking about how Linda doesn’t want people to know about her former career as a famous astrophysicist. How she keeps this secret, even better than she did her past as Lindana. How she keeps the lid on this even TIGHTER. How she’s almost bitter about it. As if something HAPPENED.

I’m not saying Bill Cipher WAS Linda’s partner of at least five years, even going so far as to start a family with her before she saw his true colors and filed some sort of Uber-effective inter-dimensional restraining order against him, one-upping him so hard that he doesn’t even wanna think about it, but. Holy shit. Imagine

[elventhespian]

So like... it's a Thing in all fandoms where fans sort of latch onto fanon versions of characters and their dynamics with each other that are actually completely off-base, right? I don't know if this phenomenon has an official name, but I've seen it so many times and it's fascinated me every time. Especially when a character's popular fanon selves don't end up just diluted from their source material, but straight up OPPOSITE their canon portrayal.

So one of my "favorite" variations on this was how the early PotC fandom used to get Will EXTREMELY wrong, especially in comparison to Jack, and it made finding in-character fics SO. DAMN. DIFFICULT.

I've talked about this MULTIPLE times before, as have several other fans. It's a dead horse being beaten. But basically certain prevalent takes on fanon!Will have in the past leaned towards a personality that was very patient and grounded and even demure to contrast against Jack's off-beat personality and Elizabeth's fiery rebelliousness. Because Elizabeth has the drive to push back against social norms, Will became the foil who fell back to his pre-pirate version, reluctant to break rules unless she pulled him into it, even in post-CotBP timelines. Likewise, Jack was the one with the WTF decision making, while Will was more rooted in reasonable decisions.

And by their appearances, archetypes, and certain elements of their world views, you'd THINK that's how it works. When we meet Will in the governor's foyer, Will is so lovestruck and doe-eyed and subservient to the governor, I think that people thought that's just Who He Is. Especially because he often acts as Jack's straight-man foil in the comedic elements. Straight-laced. Rigid. Even boring or timid.

But if you actually pay attention to the movies, it's very much the opposite. In canon, Jack's USUALLY the level-headed one who just happens to have chaos follow him, because of the way he can wield it. He thinks in long run, tries to solve problems with words and as little fighting as possible as often as he can. Ideal situations for Jack are more like a thief--he wants to be in and out of the job as silently and slick as possible. The scenarios he's in are insane, because the way he throws other people around with those scenarios is kind of insane, but he himself remains largely cool and collected.

That's Jack.

THIS is Will:

Canon!Will starts out literally so impulsive and rash, Jack has to physically manhandle him at certain points to keep him from blowing up his plans--and then still gets taken out because he underestimates his listening skills and impatience. Will corners Jack into what is functionally a cage match to the death by sanely locking the door with his sword and very nearly wins. He is constantly at 11, constantly demanding things be done faster, more directly, and at the same time quietly scheming behind Jack's back almost from the get-go. He does flashy jumps and flips off of things because using the stairs is too slow or whatever. He shows up in DMC yelling at Jack to give him his compass at the point of the sword, and insisting he'll get Davy Jones' key by just "cutting down everyone in his path."

Even when Will mellows out significantly in AWE, there are remnants of this contrast still there. Jack's plan for leading Beckett to Shipwreck Cove seems to have been a very reasonable and underhanded effort to deliberately make sure Elizabeth is inside the Cove while Will is on Beckett's ship, in command of the Compass. Meanwhile Will's plan was to leave a breadcrumb trail of vulture-sea gulls feasting on dead soldiers' corpses.

What I'm getting at is, yeah, Jack's a charismatic "rogue" and Will's a "romantic hero" TECHNICALLY. Jack makes quippy jokes, and Will glares and scowls and WTFs back. But not only are they are both more alike than people give them credit for, they are also totally opposite their roles' traditional personalities in ways that the fandom tends to overlook.

TLDR; Jack's crazy, Will's a sweetheart. But Will is also a manic gremlin, and Jack doesn't always know what to do with him about it, so they often end up something like this:

And more fans need to play with this fact, the end.

[lovetei]

Heyyy,

I saw your toxic things the demon bros will do to keep you with them and i absolutely fell in love with. More of, my mental health issues felll in love with- ANYGAYSzz

I was wondering if you could maybe do the same for the side characters¿¿¿¿

Also did you drink water today? Cuz if thats a no here you go 💧💧💧💧

And some cookies just incase 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

Love anonymous 👑

I'm not actually supposed to post anything for tonight, because I don't know? I didn't get to start anything this morning so I crammed this post T_T

But love lots! Hope you enjoy this piece ^^

But seriously, I was like "Oh shit, the algorithm I don't have!" And proceed to finish this.

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What are the most toxic thing they will do in a relationship just to make you stay with them?

Versions: Demon brothers, Side Characters

Warnings: Manipulation, yandere themes, execution, mention of torture, psychological torture, love potions, Mentions of murder, framing, alcohol

Links: Masterlist

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DIAVOLO will use his authority

He's already so happy to have you by his side

And by staying there you already secured the position of the next ruler that will stand beside him

So, why do you have to leave..?

And the reasons

"I'm not fit enough..."

"I don't deserve this much..!"

"There are more people out there that are more worthy than me..."

Won't cut it.

He knows your worth and he's sure you do too.

So why?

Perhaps you're just nervous that you won't be able to match his grace?

You don't need to.

His grace is unmatched among the demons and yours is too among the mortals.

You both are on the same chapter, just on different pages.

So why make things hard for yourself?!

All you need to do is say yes and everything will be taken care of.

Clothes, food, money, status, security and literally anything.

He loves you and you does too so it's not going to be a marriage with no love...

SO WHY?

You're starting to drive him insane, MC.

And he might just do the same to you

So he'll invite you over for a fancy dinner and a few drinks

You accepted, despite knowing that Diavolo might try something after he got you drunk

Thinking that Diavolo forgot that you can't get drunk by just a basic demonus

Fool

That's what you are for thinking Diavolo actually misses something, anything about you

So he changed the bottle of demonus to an actual human liquor but neutralized it's taste by the help of his one, loyal servant

Barbatos

Not even two hour passed by and you're already putty in his hands

Dancing just like how he wants it on his palms

Then he'll slide a paper into the table to you, together with a beautiful pen

He then point at an empty line with his finger and said "Look at that MC, this line right here wants your signature."

"Hmm, why?~"

"Because it's such a huge fan of you and it needs you to become something, someone better, so why don't you give it a sign?" Is what he said while smirking.

And there you are, signing the papers while your mind is clouded with alcohol

Oh what is it?

Just a marriage contract

You don't want it?

Look into rules and regulations, Claus 5

It's against your human rights?

How foolish, you're not in the human world.

You will tell the whole Devildom about it?

Lèse majesté

And what's the punishment for committing that? Simple.

Death.

BARBATOS and his timeline power

He loves you

So much actually

At first, it was fun to be in a relationship with him

It's fun, slowly opening him up like a present and seeing the gift, a part of him that only you know.

He builds up trust for you and so do you for him

Then it started to get suffocating

He won't admit it openly but you know,

You know that the one who kills anyone who dared act close with you is him

And it terrifies you

You may allow it if it actually harms you, severely

But it's not for your protection anymore

He's doing it out of pure annoyance now

He doesn't like you around the brothers

The angels

Solomon

Thirteen

Or even Lord Diavolo

In fact, he doesn't want you around anyone.

And it's making you feel more unsafe

He's starting to isolate you from everyone and everything

He's trying to isolate you from the world

So you decided to end things with him

And he doesn't seem to take it lightly like how you expected...

How did you know?

Simple.

You woke up weeks before that break up happened

You know how it happened and you know who made it happen

It's none other than your boyfriend of course

You thought that maybe if you talk nicely with him he'll actually understand the problem

But he didn't

He started to get more and more aggressive with you

Then when the week end

It repeats

And repeats

And repeats

And repeats again

And again

But it will keep going on like that until you learn

Until you learn that there's no other option than him

No other ending than him

He doesn't mind driving you crazy if it means you'll continue to love him

So good luck, MC.

SIMEON might just ask Father for help

Ho doesn't understand!

Why would you want to break up with him?!

He did everything, MC!

It's not clear!

Nothing is clear!

You just belive that you two are not fit together..?

You don't want him to end up like Lilith..?

He doesn't care!

He'll burn these precious, white wings for you!

He'll kill for you!

He'd actually prefer to end up like Lilith rather than this!

Because, at least, Lilith managed to be with her love until her life ended...

He'd rather be a demon or a human rather then live like the adored angel he is without you...

...

You'll still leave huh?

Alright then.

I guess he has no choice but to ask Father for help

What do you mean it will cause him to fall? Oh dear, it won't.

It might actually even promote him into a higher rank.

Father wants you in his side.

In fact, the whole celestial realm want you on this side

So when he asked "Father, it seems that we need to take even larger measure to have MC side with us. What do you think we can do?"

...oh?

Luke?

What a brilliant plan.

Now,

Let's see if you can still leave knowing an innocent life, Luke, will be put under danger because of this tantrum,

Because of you.

SOLOMON and his hidden antics

Oh dear, angel

His little devil

His most prized possession

His favorite concubine,

You won't be leaving him anytime soon, dear.

When you told him that "I want to break up with you."

He kept himself quite for a while before answering "Let me give it some thought, MC. For now, stay with me."

And just as he expected you listened obediently.

But then, his grip around your waits became more rough

And the hand he used to playfully wrap around your neck became more tight

It's hard...

It's hard to feed you his love laced cooking

But he found out that you just loves, adored even, Luke's baked cookies...

And since you're a human, he knows that Luke creates special cookies just for you

One that don't contain exotic ingredients that will upset your stomach

And it just made the work of latching love potions easier for him

He'll just add a few drops and it will do the magic for him

So, all he has to do sit tight

And wait for you to crawl back to his lap yourself.

RAPHAEL will use spears for example

Haha...

But he loves you, MC..?

He might just start crying if you say more

"Sure... But I'll make sure you'll come back to me..!"

At first, it sounded like a joke and it's funny enough to make you giggle

The beautiful memories of peaceful separation didn't last long after you saw a dead body pinned by spears though

His spears, to be specific

It doesn't even make sense

You don't even know this guy...

He hasn't talk to you and you don't even know him

Hell, you don't even recognize his face...

So what's the catch?

Why is he killing completely random people...

That's what have been running around your mind

You haven't seen him around RAD anymore

And if you do he refuse to answer your questions

Except his face will lightly flush and he'll even smile a little before sa say "Ah~ It's nice hearing your voice..."

His tone, the way he says it, none of theme are innocent

And he made it known that he knows what he's doing

The curiosity didn't last long

Until you found out that the corpses aren't for you from him as a threat

It was for the families of the victims

You found out that each of them have high power among the nobilities of Devildom

And he killed them to make the families think that you're telling him to do so

It's not to make you feel guilty, it for them to start attacking you

Until you're pushed back to a corner where no one else can save you

Except for him.

MEPHISTOPHELES's way only

Ha...

Man he loves you so much...

But all he do is stare at you blankly after you told him you ant to break up

Staring at you like you're just some kid throwing a tantrum

It's Mephistopheles in front of you, I mean, he's rich, handsome, tall, smart and has good family background

If he's a human everybody would have gone crazy over him already

Plus he wears heels and he has a sexy cane

What more could you ask for?

But yeah...

You don't want to be with him forever?

Sure, he'll talk to Diavolo.

"I'll buy MC's contract and I'll put them under my wing." Is all the reason he needs to say and a few more to have Diavolo selling you

What about your family?

This amount will do right?

I mean...

He paid for what your worth so don't expect it to be much.

Anyways, you're his now

By the eyes of the law, money and his

He'll never let you get away?

And if you did try to?

He'll simply frame you for treason and let's see if you won't come crawling back to him

After finding out that he can choose what type of punishment, torture method, to give you.

But don't worry.

He likes the game cat and mouse

He don't like playing it for a long time though

So be careful

His patience isn't as long as the line of money and connection ahead of him

THIRTEEN basically holds your life

Break up?

"You're not." Is all she said as she holds your candle

She's grinning widely as she let your candle melt, its 's wax falling directly in her hands

"Why would you even want to?" She asked even though she knows, no reason can separate the two of you

And if you did say "I don't care." as she holds you candle

She might just accidentally extinguish one of your loved ones candles

So be careful, MC.

Among everyone

She's the only one who won't joke around.

And just so you know

Her patience is shorter than the amount of time it requires to kill someone's fire off of their candle.

[zonerz]

ouughhh the way i need to know more about this corpa/dr au,,, i see misuto/hinoe in the big 2025 i cry over misuto/hinoe in the big 2025

OMG YESSSS Im so glad it's piqued your interest!! I can and probably will talk EXTENSIVELY abt it so bear with me or strap in LMAO

Basic Premise of the AU is that it's a Canon Divergent but attempting to maintain Compliance of both CoPa and Danganronpa--I love a good creative challenge and world building to find a way to balance a world out and so far it's been a really fun side project!

The timeline in this would essentially go with CoPa being first, BoS remains largely the same as added context for the timelooping aspect, and then Blood Drive--or rather my own BD stand-in/rewrite. I respect BD for what it tried but I personally have a lot of gripes with the insane switchup of stakes and almost genre overall? But I like a challenge as I've said so I want to take the parts I see the most potential in and really flesh them out and give them a chance to shine.

Gonna break this into some sections and sub sections for the sake of sanity LMAO 🫶💖

The Blood Drive Stuff

Character Basics

Quick rundown of tweaks for each of the characters ive made to help better align some timeline stuff + fleshing aspects of them out!

Satoshi

Age: 15 (CoPa, BoS, BD), 16-25 (Danganronpa Series)

HH Impact: Altered Personality + Intensity--Impatient, Impulsive, Blunt

Notabilities: Baseball Player (kicked off of team post-CoPa due to apathy), Timeloop Instigator and remembers it best (this is a surprise tool that will help us later ! 💖)

Yuka

Age: 8 (CoPa, BoS, BD), 17 (Post-DR2)

HH Impact: Newly Enhanced Spiritual Sensitivity--Can see, hear, and commune with spirits (needs extreme honing and training)

Notabilities: Elementary Schooler in HH--unique experience that kept her safer than the others at times in regards to the other spirits and Yoshikazu hesitating, Hinoe and Ayumi primarily help her hone her abilities with Aiko taking over her training after the events of BD and into DR, Very close to Naomi and Yoshiki post-BD in the absence of Satoshi, Ayumi, and Hinoe

Ayumi

Age: 16 (CoPa)

HH Impact: Obsession with Redemption + Guilt, Extremely Heightened Spiritual Perception and Susceptibility

Notabilities: Interested in all things occult thanks to her sister and Misuto who have been constants in her life for years now---looks up to them both is different ways

Yoshiki

Age: 17 (CoPa), 27 (Post-DR2)

HH Impact: Matyrdom Syndrome + Shield Mindset + Over-Attachment/Reliance Issues, Ironically comes out the opposite of going in and is spurred to make something much more of his life in the honor of the others, Surviving friends become top priority--his apartment has an Open-Door Policy now; anyone can show up at any time and he will he there for them

Notabilities: Deeply into creative hobbies such as creating Kandi bracelets and gifting them to each of his friends---his arms are always covered in them, wanting to become a tattoo artist and in the process of learning with his own equipment, offers the idea of everyone getting matching tattoos of their paper scrap shapes as a sort of memorium and way to remind them all, no matter where they are, that there's always someone they can come home to---he applies the ink himself to each of them

Naomi

Age: 16 (CoPa), 26 (Post-DR2)

HH Impact: Obsession with proving their friends were real + eventual branding of Yuki's insignia on her eye (granting the ability to see through the Replacement's eyes if she concentrates) (limited ability: gone post-BD), Steels her overall daringness + Becomes much more of a risk-taker and works well in tandem with Satoshi bc of this

Notabilities: Still interested in nursing, but gains a new interest in Missing Persons cases and Cold Cases in general, stemming from wanting to link the various nametags, notes, and letters they salvaged from HH to their families--also inspired by the losses of their friends and Seiko. This extends to finding out what happened to Satoshi in the midst of the Tragedy--she becomes quite good at investigative work and, admittedly, breaking into places she doesn't belong

Aiko

Age: 17 (CoPa), 27 (Post-DR2)

HH Impact: Heightened Spiritual Sensitivity + Abilities to read people's Auras for longer and with more limited contact, Inferiority Complex---She has large shoes to fill in a group to which she isn't sure she belongs with

Notabilities: Suspicious of Kuon, her "sister", from the get-go no thanks to her ability to read Auras, Takes on the responsibilities of Hinoe, Misuto, and Ayumi in their absence in spite of the sheer amount of responsibility and work that brings, Continues to train Yuka's abilities in their stead as well

Magari

Age: 18 (CoPa), 28 (Post-DR2)

HH Impact: Newfound belief in ghosts 💀 + Extreme Humbling of her Ego

Notabilities: Ultimate Mercenary of HPA's Class #75, post-BD she sticks with the HH gang after sharing such an experience with them and lowkey not really having any other friends, becomes a protective figure for them as well as helps establish higher connections thanks to her Ultimate status

Hinoe

Age: 26 (CoPa)

Notabilities: Spiritual Communer, Investigator, and Exorcist (For Hire!), Very Alt and indulges in all of Ayumi's questions, very upbeat and chipper personality despite her profession and lifestyle and very passionate humanitarian---both for the alive and dead, Will readily put herself in harm's way to protect her clients and loved ones, intelligent and self-reliant, the first person Ayumi finally confides to about her and the other's experience in HH and readily starts her own investigations on the phenomena Ayumi and the others describe

Misuto

Age: 25 (CoPa)

Notabilities: Has a lot of spiritual potential that Hinoe is helping him train and tap into, very nonchalant but with a sharp eye---extremely clever, Hinoe's boyfriend and established part of the Shinozaki household, Hinoe inspires him to reach his full potential and takes more risks and challenges in his life thanks to her, Loyal to his loved ones---which he doesn't have many of, a familiar face for the rest of the gang as he's p much always just Around

(Putting in a Readmore bc i know im about to yap for a WHILE here 💖)

Hinoe + Misuto

Hinoe and Misuto SCREAM wasted potential to me. I think Blood Drive was very bloated and struggled to find a consistent direction with so many antagonistic characters that struggled to smoothly all click together, and Misuto's ending was so... 😭I only recently found out that he and Hinoe had even been a thing and I followed the game not long after it first launch so unfortunately I think that speaks for the execution of a lot of the ideas presented in that game.

That said, that gives me good insight into where I personally want to attempt to take his character. I'm taking away his role as an antagonist and the cult subplot for both him and Magari (trust and run with me) and I know that's a big change considering his actions facilitated a lot of the endgame shit in BD, but hear me out I have ideas here. I also think that there is a compelling and unexplored area of interest in his relationship and dynamic with Hinoe who was also greatly underutilized except to be a one-trait deus-ex machina rather than her own character and properly Ayumi's Older Sister. They're both getting much more prominent roles as a duo--Misuto is still her protege but also a business partner and Hinoe is a resident spiritual expert that works especially on cases where communing with the dead or exorcisms are needed.

Hinoe and Misuto in the timespan between the events of the first game and BD would be the main gang's probably most reliable and consistent support net--the only ones who may just believe them and could help them when things get dicey. Hinoe is a mentor figure for Ayumi and the shared apartment becomes a safe space. While Misuto doesnt have the same extent of spiritual experience and prowess as Hinoe or Ayumi, he's a guy with connections and a talent for getting information out of people. On a more lighthearted and funnier note, to me he has that energy of like That Unemployed Friend on a Tuesday LMFAO he's always just Doing Something. He still has his dry sense of humor OFC and hands out consolation gum to people <3 But this time around, he's a legitimate protagonist to Hinoe and Ayumi---the three make up an odd little unit but are generally close.

Magari + Hope's Peak

So without the cult, where does that leave Magari? As crazy as she is to have appeared in BD the way she did, I can't help but be a little endeared by her crazy ass an eccentricities, but I still think a murderous magical girl appearing out of absolutely NOWHERE doesn't quite fit the vibe the first game set up. Thankfully, this AU enables actually quite the perfect solution! She's an Ultimate at Hope's Peak Academy---all the eccentricities, half of the migraine!

She's part of Hope's Peak Academy's Class 75A as the Ultimate Mercenary--She'll do any job as long as she gets paid and while she enjoys a good fight she also doesnt mind getting deep into investigative work and is extremely strong-willed and no-nonsense. Put her in charge and she WILL get the job done--full stop, no notes.

Magari's involvement in the main gang would come when eventually Hope's Peak, being the nosey mfs they are, catch word of all the weird deaths happening in the Tenjin region--these being the ones caused by doing the charm after the first game. These deaths would be ones being actively looked into by the local authorities as well as Hinoe and Misuto under the table since the circumstances are getting odd enough and turning up no solutions. Magari is an intimidating outsider coming in and essentially taking complete control of the investigation with her own team no thanks to Hope's Peak governmental connections.

Outside of articles, rumors, or things seen online, Magari is the main gang's first encounter with an Ultimate or anything directly relating to Hope's Peak and she is an intimidating no nonsense antagonist that ends up catching Hinoe and Misuto in her sights and parts of the gang by extension.

Divergent BD Plot Details (WIP)

A quick run through of my ideas for what im putting these guys through in BD's stead is in order 🫶

Firstly, The Sachi plot is gone and I'm bringing Yuki to the forefront (as she deserves with how the first game ends). Yuki is the new head of the school, but she's no carbon copy of Sachiko by any means. Yuki, while the strongest spirit there in Sachiko and Yoshie's absence, isn't nearly as strong as them. The girl is struggling to maintain HH's integrity in a sense. She hasn't been able to hijack the original Sachiko Charm--she isn't able to drag people in with it, but it does give her a brief little foot in the door to hurt the participants which is where the real world deaths from the charm are coming in---she kills the participants and manages to pull their spirits inward but is unable to bring live people in like how we saw in the first game. These little instances give her little recharges. I think she'd rely on the energy of all the spirits combined to support everything she's doing, which takes much more careful thought and consideration on her part.

Yuki as an antagonist is much more of a chess player so to speak--she's much more methodical in what she does because she doesn't have the same practically unlimited energy that Sachiko had. There are a few places she especially puts her energy for the meantime as she searches for a more reliable way to get people in and strengthen herself and HH's walls once more. These are:

Supporting HH (passive and ongoing)

Striking down Charm Participants (somewhat more demanding)

Influencing People in the real world and Watching the Survivors (EXTREMELY demanding, but high risk and high reward for her)

The last point is probably one of my favorite new little additions and while I'm still working out the kinks, I think it has some fun potential. I think Yuki as she loses herself to malice would linger on the fact that the gang are essentially like. The Five Who Got Away.

Utilizing Kuon + The Replacements

I hate Kuon. For SO many reasons, I don't know what the hell the writers problems were but that's not what we're here to complain about (TOO much), but there was always one part of her that intrigued me and I saw as a HUGE missed opportunity.

When first watching BD and coming to the part where it showed that she was very decrepit and almost hardly living + the fact that she replaced Ms. Yui pretty much entirely, I thought that she might've been someone--or something--conjured up by the school. THAT is what I want to focus on--Kuon being an extension of Yuki frankensteined together and effectively being puppeteered by her. Yuki can see through the eyes of her as a means of keeping tabs on the main gang to make sure they don't interfere as they are clearly a very serious threat to HH's status quo and Yuki's search for strength.

In addition to her, there are three others who would fill the spaces of Seiko, Morishige, and Mayu in the minds of the others. I want to embrace the specific brand of horror that comes with them seemingly knowing everything about the gang, but the gang having known people prior to them and feeling like they're being gaslit by everyone around them. And I want that unnerving dissonance to shift to a sense of malice as these four get more aggressive over time and it gets harder to find themselves away from one set of prying eyes--Kuon's effectively the ringleader of this nosy little group.

Over time as things ramp up and the gang starts making more moves it would become more clear that this group of people are Not Quite Right and they act more like what the school thinks people like them would act like rather than feeling natural--I'm explaining it poorly I think but I really want to embrace the Uncanny Valley with them. Additionally as Yuki gets more strained I think they would break down and act out more and could shift from psychological horror to body horror as they move very jerkily and jagged and have more raging freakouts--unable to maintain stability as Yuki has to start shifting her focus. And this is a small detail but I think a poignant one that would make for a very stressful encounter--I think they would be able to mimic the voices of those whom they've replaced.

Ultimately, Kuon and the puppet's goals are to egg people on into doing the charm (for the teens), keep prying eyes away (Kuon), and to keep tabs on the Kisaragi 5 (all)--this puts Kuon often in direct conflict with Magari, Hinoe, and Misuto who are all trying to investigate the odd deaths--especially once one happens within class 2-9.

Aiko would remain Kuon's younger sister in this, though she herself would probably use the term loosely. I think that she would still be able to see auras so long as she has touch with a person, and I think she would recognize her "sister's" aura as something not from their world--possibly something she'd learned or gotten glimpses of from Naho's insight into HH and its history. I think she would recognize this aura in the main gang as survivors and, on top of her own personal pursuits, it would give her yet another push and reason to get involved with the others.

So How Does it Pan Out?

This is where I'm still working on a lot 😵‍💫 BUT i have a few ideas floating around im just working on connecting into a proper series of events and plot. Key Points:

Aiko's bargaining chip for getting involved is that she may have a way back into HH (still working on how to potentially rework the Everafter stones or potentially reworking that other charm introduced with like the river floats iirc)

The gang is hit or miss on going back, Ayumi while wanting to correct things isn't quite going full necromancy but has absolutely embraced the idea that, whatever it takes to get the memory of the others back, she'd die for

The push comes with the fact that more people are dying and Yuki is struggling to maintain HH--energy doesn't just disappear, so if Yuki is unable to pull things together (and it seems like she isn't) then everything within HH has to go somewhere, and that place is out.

They can either sit on their laurels and let things unfold as they will, having already done their time, or they can go back in and try to mitigate the worst outcome by breaking up and releasing the remaining parts of HH before they bleed into their community and kill more people while scattered to the winds

With the veil between HH and the real world weakened, they have the potential to straight up excise the spirits and cogs in HH out to to their proper resting places without having to appeal to them---this would effectively strip Yuki of more and more of her power. It would also make traversing HH much more precarious for them in the meantime, but it would make Yuki much more approachable + would leave nothing behind for the school to mold into another leader once she's gone. They're ripping the place up from the foundations

If you've seen Coraline, the vibes Im thinking are similar to how the Other World shrinks and shrivels as she progresses with each ghost child's eye--that kinda breakdown

Casting out SO many spirits though is a LOT of work, and not something Ayumi has the capabilities to do alone--enter Misuto and Hinoe. The three of them would work together to drive everyone out permanently

Seiko would help as a guide + they would get some more proper conclusions with the others as their spirits regain themselves the further broken down the school's hold on them becomes

Magari shifts from an antagonist to an ally within HH and helps protect everyone in the midst of the chaos---having an Ultimate pays off

The new group of people who enter this version of HH would include Ayumi, Yoshiki, Satoshi, Naomi, Aiko, Magari, Hinoe, and Misuto--though Magari wasn't exactly expecting it unlike literally everyone else LMFAO 😭 She would interfere suspecting Misuto and Hinoe as setting up the crime scenes as a potential means to gain business for themselves by getting the publicity of "ghost killings" and being a spirit communing and excising business and "experts" (she's a HUGE skeptic throughout the process until landing in HH with them). She would be a bit of a fish out of water but, being an Ultimate and quite flexible in terms of her experience, she'd be a massive help in traversing the school and would readily challenge tougher obstacles they had no real means of confronting before such like Kizami, Kuon, etc. She's a fighter and knows how to adapt, even if she texts Headmaster Kirigiri later needing a FUCK ton more money for the shit she goes through LMFAO

This part hurts my heart, but it's something that I think aligns with the first game as well as Ayumi's arc in the original BD and just in general. And it's the fact that Ayumi, Hinoe, and Misuto are not going to make it out of HH--I don't have exact details panned out except for the fact that it happens and that Ayumi probably faces Yuki alone while Misuto and Hinoe act as both distractions and supporters so she can get up close and personal. I think the others would be sent back home somehow--they'd get proper goodbyes but the sense of finality would be palpable with Satoshi being given the lead in getting everyone out before the final confrontation. He knows the layout of the school better than anybody at that point and, as a fellow and proven leader, it's something Ayumi has full trust and faith in.

Please note though, this is NOT the last time Ayumi is seen, in fact I think there's a lot of potential for her moving forward in the timeline as a spirit with her own sheer prowess. But I do think it's tragically poetic and fitting for Ayumi to finally take the reigns of a situation she feels responsible and to go down FULLY on HER terms and protecting not just her current friends, but her home. She is taking her fate by the horns and going out a hero, effectively. This is one half of an important paradigm for me.

After this release, EVERYTHING is cleared---memories are restored, people are quite ready to believe the gang's stories, the the renewed Five Survivors of Satoshi, Yoshiki, Naomi, Aiko, and Magari become hometown heroes of sorts. They're all quietly interviewed by some more official sources to have the odd experience on record (still working this part out but this would definitely be something Hope's Peak I think would be effectively looking over the shoulder at as we know their LOVE for science and the untapped potential of the general Unknown).

Once complete, the kids (excluding Magari) would all be offered a deal that's effectively a type of Witness Protection--a chance to change things up and get some space from it all after everything they've been through if they decide they need the space. Four of them vehemently deny the offer, opting to support each other and stay together. One of them, however, jumps at the opportunity.

The Danganronpa Transition

Satoshi Mochida -> Hajime Hinata -> Izuru Kamukura

MY CATALYST FOR THIS ENTIRE AU WHICH SPANNED FROM A GAG WHILE PLAYING DR2 BLIND WITH MY FRIENDS LETS GOOOOO 👏👏👏 THIS GUY IS THE CENTERPIECE OF IT ALL FOR ME I FEAR !!! The thread through EVERYTHING

Let's talk about this guy who, in the base franchise, has so little going for him that it's become a gag </3 But that means its free real estate for ME ! 💖

I have a lot of qualms with how he's handled as a protagonist, especially in BD where he just barely exists as a person, so I'm injecting him with SOOO much turmoil to help balance things out. The source--That damn timeloop.

Satoshi has the best memory of the loop, and a vivid memory at that. By the time of BD he could draw maps of each layer of each space with his eyes closed--he KNOWS that building and he knows it well. Again and again, he went through it. This experience changes him at his core---From a patient and sweet coward to a short-tempered and calculating teen who will see something through come hell or high water. There would be a newfound distance between him and the others, not that he loves them any less but just that it's a bit more complicated. He watched them die and betray each other in some of those loops, and sure they didn't end up being the final outcome nor were they entirely themselves, but that's not something that could just be so easily brushed off. I don't think he'd be able to look the others in the eyes without being reminded of it all. This is of course on top of the collective general trauma of the whole ordeal.

I think he would also feel a heavy sense of responsibility, much like Ayumi, due to being the one who helped trigger the loop and the only one fully aware of it as it happened--and thus the one who somehow had to find a way to get them out of it, no matter how many tries it took. I think he would come out of it with serious inferiority issues despite having succeeded because he manages to twist it around in his head. He shoulve done more. He shouldve gotten more out. He should've gotten Ayumi out.

I think in the interim between CoPa and BD, he and Yoshiki would swap places in a sense. Satoshi spins out with apathy and frustration and begins to struggling in school and his family life, being generally dismissive and irritable whereas Yoshiki I think would, odd as it is, come out of it with a reinvigoration for the life he has. I think he'd put the pedal to the metal and lock in, wanting to make the most of the time he realizes he's been granted now, if not for himself then in honor of the others they lost. Satoshi ends up the opposite.

After everything that unravels in BD, when offered the chance to escape and not be surrounded by the constant reminders of just Everything, he of course jumps at the opportunity. It's an escape and space for him to actually just breathe and regain some sense of himself and who he wants to be apart from what he's become locally known for. So he gets the works--new home, new school, new name, and a host family who'll just generally oversee his welfare and experience. It's a completely fresh start.

And from there, Hajime's DR plot pretty generally unravels the same! Just with a little extra oomph in places. He would improve in his general condition and apathy and have some life breathed back into him, but those insecurities that took root would unfortunately linger and morph over time and focus in on Hope's Peak Academy and having an Ultimate Talent.

He broaches the idea to his host family of transferring into Hope's Peak's Reserve Course in the hopes of maybe getting picked out of that crowd one day or at least just to be closer to his now idealized school. The hosts, knowing what he's been through already, are willing to do whatever will make him happy and successful---and Hope's Peak Academy practically breeds it. Of course they let him go.

I think in his mind he would think that the others are hoping that when he finally comes back home that he'll be the Satoshi they remember---the kind and sweet and gentle pacifist from before everything. But he can't be that again, for all intents and purposes, that Satoshi did die in Heavenly Host. So now he feels the need to make up for it, to bring back more in some other way as if he has to make up for his perceived failings. And I think that's where the idealism of having an Ultimate Talent and the strength and awe and capability that comes with it would manifest---and he'd become obsessed. It would shift into this mangled idea that if he just has this one thing, everything will be alright again. Like the ultimate fix.

So when Hope's Peak approaches him with the Kamukura Project, it's practically godsent to him. There it is. The fix. And all he has to do is get a few little signatures. And then everything will be Perfect.

Hope's Peak Academy is by no means stupid. They have their hands in everything and, again, governmental ties. I have no doubt that they would know exactly who Hajime is. He's already shown an exceptional tolerance and willpower, and the procedures for the Kamukura project are very strenuous. I'm sure they would happily take anybody who signed their name, but Hajime shows promise not for being particularly talented or smart, but for his endurance and stubborn nature. Effectively, he won't die on the operating table easily.

And so they go through with it. His Host Family signs the papers from afar as he lives on Hope Peak's Campus and just do it in the hopes of it helping him.

Hajime Hinata goes in, and Izuru Kamukura comes out.

From there, everything spirals out of control just like in the mainline story of DR. Hope's Peak creates their perfect little Artificial Hope that they eventually get too scared of and hide in their basement away from everyone, Junko Enoshima begins making her moves, they get into contact, and things blow up from there. Izuru is by no means tricked or brainwashed into doing the things he did with Junko and for helping enable and lead the Tragedy for the 7 years he did, he did it out of curiosity and for the rare adrenaline rushes he got out the experiences, desperate to just feel something. He knows nothing of Hajime's past nor does he care to know much about it, he has his own life and mission.

By the time the events of DR2 and DR3's anime have come and gone and his memories are restored and his personalities combine and a balance is struck, Hajime is 25 years old and ten years have passed since he's so much as spoken to anyone from his original home. And after everything he and the other Despairs have done? I think he'd struggle with whether to reach out and come clean or not---He either keeps it all to himself and lets them all think that Satoshi, their sweet friend, died somewhere unknowingly but ultimately still himself, or he comes clean and releases that final weight from his shoulders and provides them the answers they're looking for, but at the cost of carrying the newfound weight of everything he happily enabled and participated in. He helped ruin EVERYTHING bruh 😭I think he would struggle between deciding which option is more selfish and more a burden. Post-DR2, in spite of everything, he's in the best frame of mind he's been in a LONG time---he knows who he is and what he's about and what he's going to do next, and that's help fix things in whatever way he can with the Future Foundation while caring for and looking after his friends on Jabberwock Island.

Protagonist Mirrors + Ayumi in General

This is a bit more misc but! A big appeal for this all for me personally is exploring the idea that like. Not all of them made it out of the CoPa experience ultimately okay. I'm glad that the characters are all able to get relatively happy endings, but I think there's just something to be said about watching a fall from grace that's really compelling---ESPECIALLY when it's one of the two main protagonists, and the one that's traditionally hyped up as like. The Pinnacle Guy. I think, thematically and poetically, it's very satisfying.

Ayumi and Satoshi are both protagonists and peers in that right, and after the events of the first game they would see that in each other and I think have a new respect for one another because of it. When shit needs done, they both lock in and they work together well on making something happen, which is why BD is able to be pulled off. Both pull their weight and can pick themselves up to just keep pushing forward even when breaking down themselves.

Losing them both is a massive blow to the remaining group, but it strengthens the resolves of Yoshiki and Naomi who both have to learn how to not only lead, but live without two people whom they both heavily relied on and would have sacrificed everything for. I think their potential friendship and bond here is especially untapped potential.

Additionally going back to this, there's something just classically fun about the dichotomy of one protag dying a hero, while the other lives but becomes, not to get punny, an ultimate villain. It's angsty, it's fun, and it presents a whole slew of unique situations and dynamics that otherwise wouldn't get much of a chance to shine, and that's why it's so fun to explore!

Generally, there's also just a lot of things for Satoshi that align VERY well with Hajime and Izuru. Izuru's design in and of itself invokes the Sachiko a LOT---the stringy long, black hair, the merciless attitudes, the fascination with despair, and the general red and black palette they're both associated with. It's a completely accidental parallel, but one that's SO just. Perfect. Additionally, Satoshi's chapter 3 victim memoirs ending literally has him being "overcome by despair and practically lobotomized" LIKE 😭 It's not at all intentional, but it's actually funny how many things are lined right up for me. Hajime's behavior at the start of DR2 is what got my friends and I to start joking about this all in the first place---if bro had a nickel for every time he and his classmates got whisked away to an isolated location where they slowly died one by one, he'd have two nickels---which isnt much! But it's weird that it's happened twice!!!

Im getting off track a little so wrapping back around to Ayumi and her general state of things during the DR portion and onwards. Ayumi's spirit would have been as powerful as Sachiko's had she not put all of her strength into finally releasing the last bits of HH and Yuki. She's a little weaker now, but not spectacularly. She'd probably just be closer to Yuki's level now which is still quite influential (especially since she's not trying to hold a school together).

She would linger around her friends as a guardian type, and regularly communicate through Aiko and Yuka as Yuka further hones her newly gained abilities over the years. She would be forever able to sense the others due to their shared experience in HH and spiritual ties with the Sachiko Charm truly binding them despite everything that happened. She would be able to sense Satoshi/Hajime, but upon learning from the others what choice he's made, she would give him the space he needs. That said however, she would be able to feel when things Changed. When something was Wrong.

At that point, I think she would start checking in, trying to keep herself as hidden as she could until she figured out just how sensitive he was to spiritual energy. But she would be greeted with Izuru instead, who wouldn't recognize her at all. I don't think she'd interact with him much past initial encounters, but she'd linger around him, confused, concerned and unsure of just who exactly she was looking at. I don't think she'd connect the dots for a long while, thinking that her link with Satoshi got mixed up or that this is something different---a warning in general. She's unsure, and as long as she's unsure she's going to keep it somewhat on the dl as not to worry the others. The others would probably wonder for a long time where she's gone, but she'd come back in time.

When things get dicey though, Ayumi is able to be the K5 gang's extra set of eyes in places they can't be and gain insight in less traditional ways to share with them. For the sake of their safety, she would keep them as far away from encountering Izuru as possible. I still have to think on the reasoning for it, but I think ultimately Ayumi would want Izuru/Hajime to tell the others himself what happened and what choices he made. Both because of the sheer accountability factor and also just because that's his story to tell, not hers. I think her respect for him as a peer and gratefulness for all his help those years prior could impact this decision of hers--it's not her place to meddle like that these days.

The Others + The Future Foundation

With the Tragedy occurring, the others don't exactly get to live out normal lives for very long 💀But of all the people getting thrown into the chaotic fray, the most modern iteration of the Kisaragi 5--Yoshiki, Naomi, Yuka, Aiko, and Magari--are pretty well off in dealing with it. They've been through worse, after all. As much as it sucks, I think they would handle the pressure well and be leaders for their family and friends that they watch out for, but most notably I think their group would tighten immensely during this time, becoming quite close knit.

Magari with her former HPA connections would be able to get them an in with the Future Foundation, in which Yoshiki and Naomi would readily offer themselves up for work for in return for the safety of their makeshift family units. Yoshiki would be muscle similar to Magari and Naomi a combat medic with a side specialty of being quite the investigator. They would be brought in likely under Togami at first but would likely shift hands between him, Kyoko, and Makoto as time goes on and DR2 unravels. Once the top three of the DR1 crew get clued into everything that happened with the Kamukura project and actually talking with Hajime, they'd quickly realize the people they have employed and their connections to him. But, as they're keeping their aid to the Former Despairs under wraps and Hajime's information especially confidential, no information would be shared.

Until Naomi starts snooping.

She's gotten quite sharp over the years and I think Naomi would be the one to notice something Odd going on---not with Hajime or his connection to them, no, but rather I think she would realize that the FF is harboring the Despairs and confront Makoto about it, wanting an explanation from his mouth. Makoto would feel the pressure but I think as much as Byakuya and Kyoko would be nervous about cluing them in, especially since a leak could be very dangerous for them, Makoto would see potential in this situation.

This group, of all groups, knows what it's like to see kids twisted out of their former selves and doing things they never would've, had they been in their right minds. Had they not encountered just One person or done One Little Thing. Sure, the Despairs were teens, but everyone understands the impact Junko could have on people---she had a silver tongue like a cult leader and the armed backup to move things in her favor by force. She was cunning, beautiful, and knew how to get what she wanted. I think Makoto would take a risk and plead with their sense of sympathy by calling back to the way Heavenly Host twisted people. To emphasize what ultimate despair could do to a person and twist them---they saw it. They felt it. They know what it was like. And the Former Despairs are trying. They could help them.

And his Hail Mary WORKS 🙏 They agree to keep quiet but now kinda want in on those inner workings---if there's anything more they can do they'll do it. And, well, they're curious. They want to look these people in the eyes and figure out what the hell happened. They want to look Izuru in the eyes and understand what the hell happened with him. It's a lot at once, but Makoto realizes that they could potentially be solid liaisons for the Despairs. It would better protect them while allowing the same--if not more--work to be done since they wouldnt have to worry about any of them being recognized. At the moment, Hajime and the Ultimate Imposter have p much been the only ones able to really safely traverse outside of the island. And they're both great ofc! But more manpower is always a bonus.

This, however, all happens without Hajime's knowledge. And thats ummmmmm a little bit funsies. Makoto im sure went up to him going "heyyyy bestieeeee <3 hiiiii so ummmm funny thing happenedddd" and tells him everything and get hit with one of the loudest "YOU WHAT"s of the decade 💖💖💖

I think while one half would be absolutely through the roof at the chance to see them, a much LOUDER part of himself is still like. Shielding Mode, and since he hasn't figured just what he wants to do yet in regards to himself, having their presence thrust upon him on so suddenly would be EXTREMELY irritating to say the least. But he can't exactly veto it so strongly without a good reason.

So begins a very awkward dance for Hajime. I think the K5 group would slot in well with the others though! I still have a lot of dynamics I want to explore amongst them all but I think that the rest of the DR2 crew would treat them well just bc like if they're cool with Hajime they're cool with them. Hajime himself is fluctuating stress levels like a metronome but what else is new LMFAO

I think the two most dicey dynamics that would come from this set up would be his relationships with Naomi and Yuka. Yoshiki would probably be pissed to high hell and scold the fuck out of him to say the least, but he would also hear him out. Satoshi was his best friend and someone he looked after for eons--despite everything i think his relief in seeing him alive and getting things together would outweigh whatever grief comes with everything.

Naomi on the flip side is. NANOMETERS away from an absolutely ATOMIC level crashout. AND I WOULD BE TOO OH MY GODDDD DUDE. She is going to grab Hajime by the damn ahoge and launch him into SPACE bro 😭😭😭 I think, as hard as she tries to remain objective---especially as someone with a medical background---she wouldn't be able to and would take it EXTREMELY personally. She'd be outraged. She would be already entering the situation extremely skeptical of Hajime in particular---the others she can extend more grace to as they were obviously more Followers in a sense. But Hajime, or rather Izuru, was not. He was a ringleader, and even though the DR2 gang is in a much better place and cleansed of their Despair statuses, there's still old habits that die hard and it's very clear that Hajime is still respected as a defacto leader. Everyone looks to him. And while he's kind and respectful and welcoming of them, he still carries himself with those qualities just inherently. She wouldn't like him very much on principal, but she tries. But Hajime, and I love him for it, can be a blunt ASSHOLE at times 💀 I think they would butt heads, which doesn't exactly set them up for success with a big reveal like that. There would be progress in between as I think Naomi becomes more open-midned the longer they're all just Around the DR2 crew in general and get to see how they all work together and really see the amount of care Hajime has for his peers---because that's what they are to him, his peers and his friends. Family at this point. She respects that, and they make a little headway before things go sideways again. But once everything's on the table, I think that's where things would be able to shine best. Two beers, a starry night, and just laying on the ground and talking and talking and talking for hours on end would go a very long way for these two. There's a lot to say and a lot to cover, but in that aftermath when both are too tired to go on the offense or defense, they'd make strides.

Yuka would be complicated. She was a kid when he left and is just barely becoming an adult when he comes back. I think he'd be stunned to see her growth, but relieved to know she's been in such good hands with Naomi and Yoshiki---there's no one he'd trust more to support her in his stead. I think though that because he was gone for so long during such a crucial period of growth and change for Yuka that there'd be a mix of resentment and apathy. Resentment that he abandoned them, but apathy because they've gone on without him. They've been fine without him. She's been fine without him. I'm still picking her apart, so perhaps the apathy shatters once faced with reality, but I think that she'd naturally gravitate towards Hajime in general just bc of his attitude and simply being himself! He's very confident in himself and gets along well with everyone there even if he's pretty no-nonsense. I think having had the experience she did within HH where she saw more glimpses of humanity in the spirits and such there, she'd be much more open to the Despairs and more readily intrigued to hear about the nuance of it all. She'd probably help convince Yoshiki and Naomi to give the idea a chance in the first place. I think, ultimately, Yuka is just very tired of her life being so full of chaos and she just wants to move on---something that sounds funnily familiar to Hajime.

Concluding Thoughts

not to make this like a damn essay but this post is so long now idk how to end it without it feeling awkwardly cut off 🧍hi im zone and ive thought WAY too much about ALL these guys for a niche ass AU a small handful of people know of LMFAOOOO

But I hope that all at least piques some kinda interest!! I know it's definitely really different from its source materials at points---especially with Blood Drive---but like I said at the start, I like a good worldbuilding challenge and this little AU REALLY brings that out!

If you ever have anymore questions of me regarding it id LOVE to answer, this post alone is like a mile long and yet I feel like I could just keep going for eons LMAO 😭🫶💖

If you read all the way through, Thank you!!! And I hope you have a lovely day!

[meadow-roses]

what are the newest and oldest songs on your Hiro playlist and why are they there?

Hi! :D This is not going to be the most well-phrased analysis because otherwise I'll overthink it and never actually reply LOL

DAUNTLESS SPOILERS BELOW

The first song on his playlist is "Immortals" by Fallout Boy First, I just feel like the emotions/vibes of the music itself fits his character's "aesthetic" (which is really important to me, since I like drawing the characters with the songs that are theirs! So if the energy doesn't match it's hard to draw them, if that makes sense?) Second I just feel like,,, snatches of the lyrics remind me of him and his "function" in the plot. This song is more contexted to his entire team than just to him!

This line in particular feels very Hiro to me: They say we are what we are But we don't have to be I'm bad behavior, but I do it in the best way

A driving point throughout his growth is his frustration with the way his social demographic is treated. He is born a Talented- blessed with this insanely op ability to lift things with his mind, but is burdened by the prejudices his of his class. Everyone's afraid of him, what if he decides to go evil? As a result of this he becomes simultaneously something to be feared and something to be controlled, and his humanity is forgotten in the middle of this. One of his main traits as a character is his drive to protect! His team is made up of rejects from the rigorous training program that he took under his wing and encouraged them into their "best self". He takes his job very seriously- sniffing out potential traitors and bringing them to justice, and in general willingly accepts the yoke placed on his shoulders as a child- "you are a Talented. Your role is to protect those born weaker than you". So this line to me is like,,, "They say we are what we are" (dangerous, powerful, selfish, etc. this is a fact of the talented that supersedes their humanity) "But we don't have to be" (I will not be defined by the prejudices. I will choose to be kind) "I'm bad behavior, but I do it in the best way" (he's a little bit of a rebel! he's here to help people not follow arbitrary rules)

Also the chorus :') "Cause we could be immortals, immortals Just not for long, for long" The paradox is just 😭😭 The mark he leaves on history and the mc's life is insane but in the grand scheme of the keepers timeline? he's literally around for like,,, a season and a half?? two seasons??? But with the way he haunts the narrative? He becomes a part of what makes Felix who he is- a character who is immortal- "And live with me forever now"

I could continue but I don't want this to be too long lol

The newest song on his playlist is "Pioneer" by House of Heroes! I think I added it like,,, yesterday 😂 (I put it on his playlist but it might end up sliding over the gangster side of the plot lol) I put it on there because it was vibing with Hiro, and so I would remember to test it out against him a couple times hehe. The song has the right aesthetic, both for him and the Dauntless wip in general, and also was fitting pretty well lyrically. Kind of thinking how he's like,,,, really used to facing off with renegades an outlaws, and eventually becomes one himself. What drives his descent from "the golden child" of the military is uncovering the man that he serves is planning on using the lives of innocents and is using him to squash down anyone who would oppose him.

What ever happened to the outlaw? Mighty men who were great and flawed What ever happened to the renegade? Modern man came and put him in a cage

This part called to mind how the current gov system controls the Talented to prevent supervillains

Don't seem like a choice to me You can be safe or you can be free (pioneer)

His attempt to break free from the role he's been playing so he can stop the Chancellor! Seems like a no-brainer to him, but not everyone agrees. The bridge is like,,, season 2 angst going down, dealing with the fallout of his betrayal of his master.

Thank you for the ask! This was super fun to type out!!! :D :D

[loumandaniel]

I’m sorry for jumping into your inbox with this but I feel like I’m about to start climbing the walls rewatching season 2.

I’m trying to stop myself from getting too much hope up for 70’s Devil’s minion. But like…. if it wasn’t a thing, they are soo toying with us (which hey, they might be 😂).

The “digging around in Daniel’s head” scene in 2x2 drives me insane. Daniel proposing to his wife in 1985, okay, let’s say there’s no earlier Devil’s minion, this is about how different a trajectory his life took in this version of the story compared to 1985 in the books.

But- BUT with the knowledge from the books this scene becomes insane!! Daniel, proposing to his wife, in 1985 and being turned down. Daniel proposing the same year he was turned in the books but isn’t turned in the show?! The camera lingers a moment on Armand while Louis asks about how Alice responded to Daniel’s proposal? THEN!!! then Daniel starts flashing to memories Armand fucking erased from his head!!!! (The proposal being turned down also helps drive me crazy, because of it was just about the different trajectory of his life, why doesn’t she say yes? Why is it instead a rejection that matches with how Daniel isn’t a vampire yet?)

1985 -> Daniel being turned down -> camera lingers on Armand -> memories of Armand, erased by Armand.

How is anyone meant to still have any sanity left after that??

Then they keep rubbing it in with stuff like cutting to Armand making a face after Daniel says “Yah” in 2x4. And I’m not even a hardcore Armand is Alice believer 😭😭, but I’m still standing here with my bloody conspiracy wall covered in red threads. I know there are other explanations (for example, Armand is just about to start an amazing face journey listening to Louis wax about his emotional-support-hallucination-ex-husband, so maybe he’s just not super keen about that) but there’s so much of it that if it’s not meant to mean something… someone in that writers room is doing an evil snicker.

omg never a bother - i love talking theories and devil's minion! i have no sanity left with them

GODD the way this show conflates the Dark Gift with marriage and how lestat turned louis on the alter and daniel proposing armand turn him so they'll be together and equals.......but yea lol, alice is clearly meant to stand out as odd. you are so right that placing that memory in 1985 is weird. they'd be well aware tvc fans would notice that. there's...a lot of weird questions that surround daniel, and by extension, armand. i am fascinated with why armand needed to hurt daniel with alice. he's the one who brings her up and he lets louis hurt him with her memory just enough to unsettle him before soothing his pain. that's armand's thing - i am the hand and the balm (i was literally bothering oldbutchdaniel today about armand/amadeo/daniel and how their dynamic is just reynold/alma and control and care ughh armand you need to settle down!!!) anyway, yea past devil's minion happened to me, but alice is a very real person (i think daniel left armand for her or some mix of that). 70s dm is the only logical reasoning for the show to establish armand would never turn someone only to turn someone a day lateri. armand loves daniel and cant bear him leaving/dying. the end!

also tbh i think the timeline for past dm makes way more sense than i think people believe but you have to subscribe to loumandaniel+dubai is loumand trinity gate era in order to see the vision lol

[leejenowrld]

hi bb! just finished reading back to you! AND YOU NVR FAIL TO DEIVER. ive always been a quiet reader and hv been following your writings since in your eyes…u rlly dont understand how happy i felt when i saw you posting back to you… i was SHOCKED but its such a good surprise 😭 am very excited for the remaining parts of the story. the was o/c and jeno fought for control throughout the various parts were written so well…and the smut scene…INSANE, was giggling the entire time i read it.

but I have a few qns tho! not sure if i can get them clarified 😚

it seems like o/c knew of jeno’s existence all these while (since shes mark’s bsf) but have she met jeno prior to this chapter? if so whats her impression of jeno before and after meeting him?

same for jeno! do jeno knew about mark bsf? what was her impression of her?

it seems that chenle and yangyang is not in the team? but i rmb from mark’s fic that they were in? so around when did they join the team? and hiw did they join? most importantly, do jeno have any bad blood with the both of them?

also…the part where o/c was watching the match and eyeing coah suh…did they have any prio rencounters? be it sexually or not, or perhaps as tutor/student

AND OMG JAEMIN’s cameo, im assuming that we will see more of him in the later chapters. am quite curious hoe did he and o/c met? and if he had told jeno abt any of their tutoring sessions since they are like brothers. mostly importantly…what does he think of that encounter between o/c and jeno, or what does he think about the both of them in general and jeno’s relationship with mark’s gf previously.

might have more questions after reading this chapter again but the most important qn! when can i expect pt2 👀 no pressure ofc! cos it seems like you dont have a uploading schedule (which i respect!)

love u so much bb hope all the qns arent too overwhelming but i hope you know that im really REALLY excited for the next chapter!

hi bb, thank you so much for this message 🥺 it really means everything to me. i’m honestly so blessed to have had your support since in your eyes. knowing you’ve been following me from back then and decided to stop being a quiet reader now—it makes me so happy 🥹 i love that we’re interacting now, and i hope we can keep it up because messages like this truly make my day. never feel shy to send me an ask or share your thoughts! i love you so much, and it means the world that you’ve stuck with me for so long.

to answer your questions (and yes, you’re questioning all the right things—everything you’re wondering about is 100% intentional!):

• has o/c met jeno before? yes, she’s always known about him since he’s mark’s brother, but they’ve never interacted directly before this chapter. o/c’s impression of him was always based on mark’s bias and negativity. she saw jeno as the arrogant and entitled estranged brother, but after meeting him, she realizes there’s more to him—though that doesn’t mean her perception becomes entirely positive right away. she’s torn between being drawn to him and being frustrated by him, which creates the tension you see.

• what about jeno? jeno definitely knew about o/c before meeting her. he’s always been aware of mark’s best friend but didn’t think much of her since she was just “mark’s person” in his head. after meeting her, she completely throws him off. he expected someone predictable and harmless, but o/c’s strength, wit, and the way she challenges him catch him off guard in the best and worst ways. she’s nothing like he imagined, and it drives him a little insane.

• chenle and yangyang not being on the team yet? you’re absolutely right—chenle and yangyang do join the team later, but they aren’t there at this point in the timeline. they join much later, mark started the tradition of the river court boys making it, which is hinted at in love me back. their recruitment will be addressed in passing later, and no, atm, there’s no bad blood between jeno and them. jeno has issues with mark, not the team itself. but can i promise that it will stay that way? absolutely not! as yangyang is oc’s ride or die.

• o/c and coach suh 👀 yes, they’ve had prior encounters, but it’s subtle and not fully explored yet. you will slowly discover more about mc and him.

• jaemin’s cameo omg, you caught that!! yes, jaemin will have more of a presence later in the story. he and o/c met during her tutoring sessions with him, so they’re friendly but not super close. jaemin hasn’t told jeno about those sessions (because why would he?), but he’s observant and definitely picks up on the tension between o/c and jeno. jaemin’s thoughts about jeno, o/c, and mark’s girlfriend will be revealed gradually, but let’s just say he’s quietly piecing things together. there’s more to come with him, i promise!

and about part two—thank you so much for your patience and excitement!! i don’t have a strict upload schedule (you’re right 🥹), but i’m working hard on it, and you can expect it as soon as i can polish it up. i don’t want to rush anything because i want it to be just as good as part one, if not better. so stay tuned —it’s coming asap!

thank you again for this thoughtful and detailed ask—it’s never too overwhelming, and it honestly gives me the motivation to keep writing. i’m so lucky to have readers like you who care so much about the story. i hope you keep loving my work and supporting me because it’s messages like this that make me want to carry on 🥺 love you so much, and i can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the next part!!

[milfbrainrot]

a few yj thoughts

so. idk who i think killed lottie but seeing that last shot of shauna with the knife + the promo for next ep with her saying the only way to be safe is to be the only one left............................... i would believe it after lottie got so Close to callie.

HOWEVER. that is totally based on walter's assessment and who knows if he's trustworthy. i mean if anything he could be hannah's kid who turned out transgender or some shit. his investment in misty is so... interesting? i feel like he's trying to isolate her under the guise of caring, and that whole moriarty comment is still sticking in my mind. he could just be an Elite Citizen Detective who knows misty and her friends are at the heart of some insane stuff. he could've been hired by hannah's daughter or someone. etc.

adult tai making a point of saying "melissa and gen were close to hannah" was so jarring because it's bridging the adult timeline with... stuff that got added to the teen timeline later on? so it feels odd to actually hear her acknowledge them BUT it gives me hope that maybe it's a way to make them relevant in the adult timeline for the ~melissa is hilary swank's character~ theory.

walter is such an enigma idk his place so if hilary is wearing blue contacts it could even be to show some way she's related to walter. but genetics are weird so really they would most likely need to do that to match her to a pre-existing teen character.

i'm also thinking hilary's character could be related to one of the scientists since she does look a fair bit like the guide guy to me. but i think her age is too coincidentally close to what the survivors' ages are? but also hannah was a teen mom so who knows how close in age her own kid would've been to the team?

still doesn't answer who found the tape and/or brought it back with them. v curious to learn more about that - if it was one of the team or someone who went to the crash site later on.

also HOLY SHIT LOTTIE. i was kind of... expecting this to be shauna's doing - executing the trio to cover up the ben stuff. but she didn't even have a chance before lottie AXED A GUY'S BRAIN. i am glad it isn't fully on shauna because i love her being a driving force, but i also like when the other girls match her freak.

man also van was... such a KID. wanting to call her mom. being so gentle with the frog (versus hunting a woman through the woods). it really contextualizes her age but also her experiences. and i think this helps explain the dynamic between her and adult lottie. teen van has... seemingly been fine with everything so far? or less weirded out by it than others? i think she had so much faith in lottie that of course she'd be the one handing out cards etc. but she hasn't been as connected to lottie lately. and lottie just took things SO FAR. and now that van has the vision of civilization SO CLOSE it really shakes things up. she's still foggy to me in regards to some decisions but i think lottie ruining their chance at rescue here was a turning point for van since there's so much emphasis on her specifically having her sights set on home.

uhhhh collecting hair. hannah's hair. antler queen costume hair decorations foreshadowing.

i wonder if any of the others know about other tai? like, sammy does. simone knows something weird's going on. but van seems to be the only one who actually KNOWS. i wish she could tell shauna or misty about it because if she dies without them knowing... idk who else could push back.

her steep decline is making me think the phone call from our tai was a hallucination, or at least more believably on the line between supernatural and rational again.

uhhhh idk i find it interesting callie has not shown jeff the tape recording. he seems to have not known abt the scientists, or at least... he's in denial about it or protecting callie? idk. interesting to see all the little secrets they all keep from one another tho.

i like that we got to meet the scientists a bit as characters in a way that felt natural and helped explain why things like the satellite phone are broken, and that pack ben found, and how the last team had been out there years prior because of how the frogs work, so it's why the team didn't come across anyone last summer. pretty well thought out.

i'm tire d so no real coherent thoughts lmaoo just excited for next episode. that was fucking insane. there are probably some implications abt the mental health side with teen lottie but i can't use my brain about them rn.

[little-pondhead]

Some fic because I love your au, Fenton is gender brainrot, and little baby dan cracks me up. Full disclosure, my only familiarity with DC is DP crossover fanfic, and a Batman movie I fell asleep during. (If I had a better grasp on the characters I would totally write more :(( i love interactions) also sorry for the weird spacing. Idk why tumblr did that

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There was an empty cardboard box on the table of the Justice League’s main conference room. Taped on the top flap, next to a doodle of Fenton’s logo, was a jump drive.

Heaving a sigh, Batman plugged it in and pulled up his screen on the projector. The drive, which was named “little baby dan’s evil playtime”, contained two files; WATCH_ME_FIRST.mp4 and its-a-secreeeet.pdf. He clicked on the video file, and immediately the projector filled with a blurry close-up of Fenton’s goggles.

After a moment of fiddling with the camera, Fenton stepped back, giving a cheery wave. His lab coat and goggles were a pastel pink, which was new. “Heeeeya, Bats! Whoever else is there! If you’re watching this, you probably weren’t there when I dropped the box off, aaand it’s probably empty.”

He clapped his hands together gleefully. “And Connie, if you’re there, this is payback for cussing around my daughter.” Batman was instantly relieved that Constantine wasn’t on base. Hopefully the situation wouldn’t require Constantine’s expertise. (Or any of the Justice League Dark. Fenton seemed determined to drive them all to an early grave with his casual refusal to acknowledge the supernatural air around him.)

“Now, as you’re all heroes, I’m sure you’re all familiar with the whole,” Fenton paused for a moment, as if searching for the proper words. “”You ate a burger on a Tuesday or something equally inane, and it kickstarted a series of events that led to you going insane and evil and murdering 95% of the Earth’s population and now you must fight your evil alternate self, because your time-controlling cryptid Peepaw said so,” shtick, so I’ll skip the backstory. Say hi to Dan!” Fenton grabbed the camera, and Batman quickly jotted down several notes about the concerning number of things the boy had just said.

The camera swiveled around to show Nightingale, holding a strange beast in a manner that reminded Batman of an “elongated cat meme” Nightwing had shown him when he was still a Robin. The creature bared a maw full of razor sharp fangs at the camera. Nightingale adjusted her grip to hold the creature’s paw and make it wave, which evoked a deep growl.

“Haha, he’d kill me if I did that. Dan likes Nightingale much more than he likes me.”

“Because the worst she has ever done is attempt to shoot me.”

The camera had moved, so Batman couldn’t visually confirm that the deep voice had come from the creature, but the voice didn’t match any of Fenton’s previously revealed companions. “Yeah yeah, her aim sucked back then.” Fenton gave the camera a toothy grin that was only slightly less unnerving than the creature’s. “Dan’s not technically me, he’s much more like Dani, actually, but the world would probably end again if we left him with his other... What did you call him?” Fenton glanced offscreen.

“Bane of my accursed existence.”

Fenton chucked. “The other half responsible for his existence.” Batman added more notes to his file. “So, yeah, Clocky left him with us for a bit to help along his rehab. But a certain psychologist-in-training I know says that repressing rage isn’t healthy, and even without a lot of his powers, he can wipe out most of a city in- what, an hour? We tested it. It was around an hour.”

Everyone present shared a look of deep concern. As if able to see their reaction, Fenton quickly held up his hands in surrender. “Don’t worry! Clocky reset it. Approximately zero people have died from Dan in this timeline.”

“Yet.” Came a furious rumble from off-screen.

“Yes, you’re very scary.” They heard Nightingale coo.

Fenton laughed. “Yeah, we need him- and all of you, -out of our hair for a bit while we concoct more evil plans, and you’re all the least likely to die to him, so you get to babysit! Thanks!”

He reached to shut off the camera before pausing and turning away. “Foley! Which of the furries is the one who really likes animals?”

“Man, do you realize how that sounds out of context?” Foley laughed. “I think Tim said it’s the little one. Damian?”

Fenton nodded and turned back to the camera. “Don’t let Damian try to adopt Dan. Or anyone. Dan will bite their hands off. I mean it!” To emphasize his point, he removed one of his hands.

Batman sighed and added “ability to remove limbs” to a list of Fenton’s powers.

“I’ll include a list of “tasks”” Fenton’s disembodied hand made finger quotes, “we gave Dan to keep him occupied. There’s some at the bottom for you guys. They’re mostly just blatant abuse of his powers for the sake of fun and science. I’d appreciate it if you’d let him mark things off the list and add notes on how it goes. Or you can do it. Or I can steal your cameras. Your choice.”

He thought for a second. “I think you’re supposed to leave, like, pizza money or something, but I don’t think you can get pizza delivered to space. Anyway, thanks for letting me blab your ears off while Dan’s probably committing war crimes for twelve minutes. For your sake, I hope he inherited my interest in space. Good luck! Thanks for babysitting!”

Waving with his still detached hand, Fenton ended the video. Batman closed it and opened the PDF as the few other members present murmured amongst themselves. Most of the pages were filled with a curling script Batman didn’t recognize. The fourth page had a huge, bolded header, reading JP TASKS.

The door opened and shut in half a second as the Flash burst in. “Superman!” The speedster wailed. “I can’t get this thing off of me!”

The Flash waved his arm around, sending small droplets of blood flying as he tried to dislodge the creature sinking his teeth into the speedster’s arm. Batman raised an eyebrow beneath his cowl as Superman quickly lent his super strength in attempt to pry the creature’s jaw open. Dan didn’t budge.

Well, he could certainly see the family resemblance been Fenton, Dani, and Dan. Shaking his head, he turned back to the list.

Task 1: Find Dan. He’s probably attacking someone.

He highlighted the text and crossed it out. This was going to be a long shift.

[Anon, this is me crying over the wonderful gift you have given me. You bastard.]

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"Do you think Fenton's regeneration powers extend to his..." Green Lantern frowned, trying to remember the word the kid had used but coming up blank. "I dunno. But do you think if we cut off little Dan here, he'll heal back up with no problem?" He gestured helplessly to the scene in front of him. Flash was still screeching about the beast on his arm, and now Superman and Wonder Woman were trying to pry him off. Batman was standing to the side, silently bemoaning the lack of quiet. He just wanted one peaceful shift. Just one. Please.

"I'd like to see you try, hero. And I'm not little." Dan spoke, startling all of them. His grip on Flash's arm tightened, making the speedster squeal before releasing the man and spitting out a mouthful of his blood. Batman noticed that his mouth didn't move despite the clearly spoken words. In fact, when Dan closed his mouth, it was like he didn't have one at all.

"So you do speak!" Superman marveled.

"Of course I do. I am not unintelligent, unlike you lot."

Despite his pain, Flash still made sounds of protest that everyone promptly ignored.

Superman flushed. "I just wasn't sure. It was hard to tell in the video."

"Ah, yes. The video that the Fenton menace sent you. Was there a note for me in the flash drive?"

"Uh, no." In one of his less finer moments, Green Lantern stuttered over his words and moved in front of Batman, obviously lying. Dan merely growled and flew through both men, heading straight for the giant monitor. Batman barely suppressed a shiver. Density shifting? Might as well add it to the list. He could see Martian Manhunter, who was in the back of the room, tilt his head at the display.

Dan ignored the room as he used his entire body to manipulate the computer mouse and scrolled back up to the top of the page. Staring intently at the scribbles no one could make out, the heroes could do nothing but shoot each other nervous and confused glances. More than a few of them jumped when Dan chuckled deeply. Honestly, his tiny body was at complete odds with his baritone voice.

"Maybe rehab will be fun if he's letting me do this." Dan sneered, flashing their reflections a sharp fang. No one wanted to ask what exactly he was in rehab for. The little beast turned his gaze to Batman. "You are the one called Batman, who rules the cursed city, correct?" The dark hero nodded, not trusting himself to say anything. "Excellent. You will be my chaperone for now, just as Fenton decreed it. Good luck, mortal man. Pray, I do not destroy your home a second time."

Without any time to unpack that conversation, Dan promptly disappeared from view. Some blinking text caught his attention, and Batman scrolled back down to the English text, glancing at the next few items on the list.

Task 2: Do not let Dan read his portion of this letter until you have a way to track him. There is no containing him.

Task 3: Keep him with a chaperone at all times. (If you can)

Task 4: Do not let Dan back into Gotham unless you're fine with a sudden decrease in the clown population.

Task 5: Take him for a walk in Death Valley. He likes hunting lizards.

Task 6: Make sure he goes down for his 2pm nap every day.

Task 7: He'll ask for it, but do not give him any burgers for mealtime. It upsets his stomach.

Task 8: Dan gets ONE(1) sweet after dinner before brushing his teeth. Those green pop rocks Batman always carries will do fine; he likes those. :)

A sudden alarm blared from his wristwatch, making Batman tear his eyes away from the screen, indicating an emergency at Arkham. This time, Batman actually sighed out loud. There was more to the list, but right now, he really needed to find their new charge before he killed the Joker, from the sound of it.

[lollytea]

Okay but consider the following: Hunter becoming fandom-famous takes place in the same timeline as Movie.

People don’t really notice who this is at first. His account takes a bit to really get off the ground, and the overlap of people who could recognize the actors in Movie and cosmic frontier cosplayers is not that big but eventually, someone points it out in the comments of his latest pics with Willow. They’re mostly ignored beyond a few comments like hahaha weird or a plain lmao by someone, but the thought is out there now. It’s started.

Someone else notices too. Someone puts a screencap from Movie next to one of their group cosplay pics. More people notice the resemblance. It’s a small group, granted but they sure as hell do exist. Someone even dm’s keikos_husband like “Hey, look at what i found! [Image attached]”. They never get a conclusive response.

The scar thing is the one everyone keeps debating about because spaghetti guy doesn’t have them to the same extent that keikos_husband does. Until hunter posts that pic of his first cosplay. Which, if he’s really that age, matches up perfectly with the timeline of Movie.

Hunter just watches this whole thing like, gus, get over here it’s your fucked up movie again. He’d clarify, but Luz keeps insisting that he not and she thinks it’s really funny, so he doesn’t say anything.

Gus's Fucked Up Movie haunting the narrative more more persistently than Caleb Wittebane is extremely funny to me. Especially considering that these are two different semi-niche Internet corners.

YouTube essayists are like "After years of dormant activity, we've gotten a new lead in the Gus13 case in the form of a micocelebrity in a 90s sci fi book series fandom. Many have theorized that popular cosplayer/writer/prominent voice in the Cosmic Frontier community, Hunter Noceda, also known by his URL Keikos_husband, is the infamous "Spaghetti Guy" in the even more infamous "Movie" But does this theory hold any water? Let's dive in. But first, let's talk about today's sponsor, Hellofresh,"

Gus definitely cosplays a lot too and him and Hunter have done a few O'Bailey and Avery shoots. So Gus has a good chunk of Internet fame of his own. However he probably uses an alias so suspicion is initially nonexistent. Until somebody digs up an old reel Willow posted of their behind-the-scenes process (cleverly editing out the whole part with illusion magic). There's this one bit where the camera focuses on Hunter and Gus in an immature squabble as Willow's voiceover speaks to the viewer. It's hard to decipher and nobody has really cared until now. But now, with the new Gus13 buzz, that little moment has been studied under a microscope and people are now theorizing that Hunter says something along the lines of "Shut up, Gus,"

GUS??

The guy who does the insanely realistic special effects is named Gus???

Hmmmmmmmm.....

The conspiracy boards go crazy. Craft stores all over America are running low on yarn.

Luz keeps reblogging Gus13/Spaghetti Guy is Keikos_husband memes on tumblr and its driving people insane. Like is it a joke or not girl, is it a joke or not??

Willow makes it a million times worse when she posts a selfie of to her story, with Hunter eating dinner in the background, which she captions as "Made my man some spaghetti 🍝 💀"

[bradycore]

ok i know that you may not like destiel, but i promise you, as a fellow sam stan, the second half, especially the last couple chapters, of to become a man goes fucking wild for sam. it drives me feral even to this day. no spoilers tho.

when i was reading this fic, i would refer to to exist again because the interconnectivity is off the charts. the dialogue from the two fics are the same but the perspectives are different, so reading to exist again only or to become a man only is completely different experience off what is basically the same series. its like how arrested development's orginal formatting final season had all the different perspectives and jokes set up in each episode that didnt make sense until you watched the entire thing. and it is hilarious. the setup, which seem offhanded and weird pieces of dialogue in to exist again become key plot elements in to become a man. and deans perspective of magic is so different from sam's and cas. you just get a really good feel for how much of a freak sam is and how normal dean is in a world full of magic. it just adds another layer to world building.

and the fic addresses all of the issues i have about dean. it doesnt just wave a wand and make him unproblematic, but demenior makes dean work for it. he has character arc. he is not perfect at the end, but he is trying and that is what is important. and you also gotta to read to become a man just because of the whole cliff hanger for to exist again. once the to become a man has caught up with to exist again. i mean. the answers are definitely worth the wait.

i can tell you what specific chapters that are important for sam. i never reread the fic in its entirety but only to specific chapters that drive me, as a sam stan, insane. but its also the little moments between the major sam plot points that treat sam and deans relationship with such care and fucked-up-ness that i would recommend that you dont. you got to find the parts that drive you insane yourself

oh my god. i almost forgot about dem's characterization of purgatory. i dont want to spoil it, but it really expands on the wrongness of the leviathans and purgatory that supernatural never was able too.

and overarching themes. the overarching themes. its fucking beautiful and ties up everything so well. sam and dean have their own themes and arcs (which you can pretty much get from their story titles) that complement each other so well with the overarching message (the love it takes). it is wild. no it is well thought and planned.

warning: there is eldritch monster sex scenes in to become a man. you can skip it if you are not into it. there are warnings at the top of those chapters.

i could write essays about to exist again and to become a man. i could talk about them all day.

and it was such a joy reading it in real time. the theories and analyses that the readers made comment section for each chapter. the real time interactions with the author. it just made the experience so much better. and the music. oh the music that goes with this fic.

if i were you, i would reread to exist again whenever the timeline matches up with to become a man. it so worth it.

and the dem shares many of your cas/angel headcannons that are fully fleshed out in this fic.

oh and @demenior has little fics of the love it takes on their tumblr (this fic series is why i joined tumblr the first time around).

wow hello!!! it would be a mess to try and respond to each part of this individually but i read all of it closely and rlly appreciate the breakdown!!! i could rave about to exist again all day for the rest of time (the lorebuilding alone holy shit??? seriously its. im. its SO good.) and you make an excellent case for to become a man (congrats on ur lawboy coding) so clearly i will just have to reread the former and read the latter as soon as possible

[balkanlila]

Been doing some spring-cleaning on my Amy playlist and driving myself insane thinking about Amy/11 as a sun and moon dynamic (obviously, who's who switches constantly, but always tied together, yet can never permanently be that way), so now I'm dead-set (see: deluding myself) on When The Day Met The Night being an Amy/11 song.

Because, and this is going to be a mini-essay, the song doesn't make it clear who's who between the sun and the moon + she and he, I think it's largely read as he being the moon and she being the moon but it can be read both ways -> Amy and 11 never really fitting neatly into one box.

And the song (and the album as a whole) has very overt fairy tale influences -> like a name in a fairy tale

As a bonus, the album this is on, but not this song sadly, has quite a few references to Rimbaud's A Season In Hell

But onto the song itself:

The links to the many gardens, especially the idea that the gardens are where he comes back to her (S5, the big bang Dr finding her asleep in her garden, S6, Amy finding out that he didn't die while she's in her background, S7, the scene with the convo with Rory where the TARDIS can be heard arriving)

Thinking about how 10's regen to 11 going roughly, collapsing and bleeding energy everywhere, literally just hanging on

But also Amy's "why did you say five minutes" in the garden and the look on her face when she says that -> the idea that she spent a lot of her 12 years barely hanging on to a sense of normality and sanity

Thinking about both of them making promises not to leave the other, textually or implied, and both of them breaking said promises....

To end this insane ramble, I'll leave you with the knowledge that if you queue Little Amy (the murray gold track) before When The Day Met The Night and then set the spotify crossfade to 3secs, the two tracks sync really nicely <3

This is an EXCELLENT match (thank you for the rant :")))) Keeping the reply under the cut because things got messy and deranged :/

Just... thinking about Night/Day imagery in general and how 11 and Amy meet during the night and each one of them thinks of the other as the sun while perceiving themselves as the moon. Considering how 10 felt about regenerating and how that predestined 11 to have his actual identity constantly creep up on him which he isn't  thrilled about because he's preoccupied with holding on to everything 10 was. (INSANE how Ten has to deal with Rose's ghost, the ghost of a living person and eventually ends up as one himself. He lives because Eleven wants to keep him alive, but it's not quite him... never a proper ghost, never a proper person...) it's only at the end of his arc that 11 acknowledges 10's vanity of all things. And then regarding Amy, there's the otherness she experiences in every timeline, even in the one where she remembers the Doctor, her drawings and artworks of him exist in her bedroom still. What a crooked solar system! The Moon chasing The Sun, 11 not allowing 10 to go, Amy waiting for 11.

Back to the Night/Day thing (the stuff above was a prelude, I guess), 11 comes back to Amy during the night (5x01) and leaves her during the day. (The God Complex) Key motif of The Romantic Period!!!! But also reminiscent of Symbolism. (Romanticism and Modernism as Amy's Art Movements Agenda is going strong) Actually your analysis here SCREAMS Verlaine's À La Promenade to me. ("and dying, like a sunshine of a dream" it says + mentions of costumes and vows, but again it's so much better in french dbdjdjjdjdjr modernism is freaky translated, but not the freaky that was originally intended to be portrayed bdjdjdjdjd)

Ooooooh the gardens, it gets even crazier with the gardens. The symbolism is ANCIENT, they are beauty and innocence and life, but are also wilderness and escapism and a ticket to nowhere. But for Amy, each reading of the garden kind of starts to exist with all these qualities exaggerated depending on the narrative moment, to the point of all of it becoming unbearable. She waits for the Doctor as a child and the green enveloping her house is too messy, she marries Rory and her new garden is too neat. Too messy and too perfect constantly being presented as the only two options Amy has, they only two ways in which she's allowed to be perceived. Truly haunted by her own dichotomy-defined presence. (never really fitting neatly into one box!!!!!!) "You could really spend a lifetime in here - not that I'm going to." on one hand she's been spending lifetimes in gardens like the TGWW one. On the other hand the TGWW garden is everything she wants, but Amy won't even consider it because she craves the Big Dramatic Moment, the feeling of having something happen to her even and especially if it's unpleasant ("kind of a good hurt") because she's been stuck in the in-between since forever and she doesn't want her dreams handed to her without the journey, without a sense of achievement. Wish fulfilment isn't appealing to her at all.

AAAAAAAND I wandered off here and this is INSANE and incoherent, but YAY for the Rimbaud cameos in music, I LOVE to see it.

[randombubblegum]

Just venting for a sec it drives me crazy because everything about otto and his behavior (the limited amount that I know) would lead me to believe he is respectful, conscientious, careful, and kind except the fact that the two people he seems to be closest to in the world are, not to put too fine a point on it, awful. There must be some fucked up shit we don’t know about because I don’t see how the person otto seems to be would continue to be with gr*ce after all this time (I get the Awsten thing is more complex because that’s also his job but still)

yep!!!! i think about this so much!!!!!!!!! everything ive ever seen or heard about otto makes me think hes gentle and kind and respectful and like, not a sex obsessed malicious asshole who doesnt care about his best friends feelings and yet? the fact that he would do what he did to awsten is just so incredibly insane??? it is SO out of line with every other piece of evidence we have about his personality and i know we dont know him, but like, people who DO know him tend to describe him very consistently and it just. it doesnt add up!!!! it doesnt!!!! how can he be this kind and gentle old soul and also fuck his best friends longterm ex IMMEDIATELY after they break up. and then date her and just expect awsten to what? fucking deal with it? not even the fact that the band just got signed so he couldnt do anything there, just on a purely friendship level like it is insane……

the only theories ive been able to come up with are like, as ive said, maybe otto was the sheltered inexperienced type and didnt have the wherewithal to reject gr*ces sexually aggressive comeons when she was trying to fuck awstens friends after the breakup and geoff (WISELY) brushed her off…. but even that is out of character for him!!! but it does kinda match up w how callous and indifferently cruel he can be to awstens feelings based on what we know about o9k (and ocean marie)…….. and i assume he just couldnt break up w her now if he wanted bc she is SO pathetic. no friends, no family, nothing going for her, heavily medicated by her own admission for what i can only assume are a host of mental issues (no shade for that god knows i have my own problems)….. like shes just pathetic and clingy and helpless and i think he feels too bad. i think hes too compassionate to break up no matter how he feels about the relationship (and we will never know bc gr*ce would never admit theres issues there lol)

so i just…… i dont know. it doesnt add up to me with my perception of otto as a person. awstens a dick but theyve been best friends for years and SOMEHOW even thru the betrayal so i get why hes not about to drop him, but……. its just something that doesnt add up and will never add up. and its just such a horrible and fucked up situation that NOBODY talks about and NOBODY pushes back on that it genuinely makes me mad lol. why does she get free reign to misrepresent their relationship timeline and bury the fact that she did what she did. and why is otto okay with it???? what kind of person just goes along w something so fucked up, especially when its in such stark contrast to the rest of his apparent personality and value system? i just dont get it

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a little birdie told me pt. 10

Summary: Y/N “Birdie” Parker left New York and her family three years ago in the middle of the night. Now, a call for help to her best friend brings her back into the fold of the Three Families and their “business”

Pairing: Steve Rogers x Parker!Reader

Content warning: physical abuse, miscarriage, mentions of forced marriage, mentions of alcohol abuse

Word Count: 1.8k

series masterlist // next part

Y/N was in the kitchen when she heard someone return home. She had been sitting at the kitchen island, staring down at a glass of whiskey. She had poured it to settle her nerves, but had yet to pick it up. Pepper walked in and immediately could tell that something was bothering her daughter. She saw the glass and slowly slid it out of Y/N’s hands, “What’s wrong? I thought last night was a success. Did something happen?” The younger woman nodded and refused to meet Pepper’s eyes. It didn’t take much for the intuitive woman to guess what was ailing her daughter. She nodded, “You finally realized you are in love with Steve.”

“I didn’t mean to be,” Y/N wailed as she slammed her forehead onto the island, “ow.”

“Why is this such a bad thing?”

“Because the last person I was with was a terrible person,” Birdie grumbled, “I had every intention of staying single forever to avoid feeling like shit every again.”

“Honey, that’s insane. Anyone with eyes can see that Steve is disgustingly in love with you and would move mountains to make you happy.”

“It’s just so soon. Too soon.”

“There’s no timeline for this kind of thing. When you know, you know.” Pepper laughed to herself, “The funniest thing is that when I confronted your father about the arranged marriage, he told me that the plan was for you and Steve to get married.”

Y/N shot her head up and nearly toppled off the stool, “What? He picked Steve for me? I—I have to go.”

Y/N was trying to keep her head on straight as she walked into George’s office. The entire drive over, she had tried to calm down and approach this with some levelheadedness. Before she could even sit down across from the desk, that plan was thrown our the window, “I need answers and I don’t think Dad will tell me everything. Why were you going to marry me off to Steve?”

George sighed and leaned forward, “First of all, I’ve told your father that you should’ve been told about all of this. The truth of the matter is that we needed stability in the families and this was a way to bring us together. HYDRA had started gaining power and your marriage was a way to secure some balance and open up channels that had previously been closed off to us. Also, we had seen the two of you together. You got on well. Why the sudden interest?”

“I don’t know if I can stay here. Apparently, everyone has decided I’m Jamie’s mom. No kid deserves to be stuck with me as their mother.”

He leaned back in his chair, “He really did a number on you.”

Y/N felt like the air had been sucked from her lungs but she tried to play dumb, waiting to see how much he knew, “Who?”

“You think I don’t know things, Birdie? I’ve got your medical records from your hospital visit. I know that your hospital visit wasn’t a one time thing. I know about the miscarriage. I may not know his name, but I will soon.”

“Ho—how?

“I'm a Barnes. A third of the group that runs New York. You think I can’t get information?”

“Have you told anyone?” They both knew who Y/N was truly worried about.

“I haven’t told Steve or Tony. You should though. I highly doubt they would be mad at you for anything,” his voice softened, “You were abused, Birdie. Nothing that he did to you is your fault.”

Her nails were digging into her palm, trying to focus on anything else, “I let him kick me in the stomach. I didn’t even try to stop him. What kind of fucked up, evil person does that?”

“You’re not evil. You’re hurting and have been for a while. I don’t think running will solve anything for you. Are you truly capable of leaving Jamie behind? Your family? Can you leave Steve when you love him?”

Y/N looked at her godfather, “I don’t love Steve.”

He laughed, “You used to be better at lying. He has always brought you back down to earth. I thought a match between the two of you would settle you down. Steve even agreed to it, but he stipulated that you had to go to college first and that you had to agree. He couldn’t force it on you.”

Y/N couldn’t believe it. She thought that he had just been hiding the marriage from her. Never had she considered that he knew he was her future husband, “He knew the whole time? Why would he want to marry me?”

“Of course, he knew. God knows why, because you were insane, and still are. He was ready to marry you. Clearly he thought you could make each other happy.”

“He didn’t tell me he knew it was him the whole time. I just thought he knew you were marrying me off.”

“Seems he wanted a chance to romance you all on his own, but you were gone before he got the chance.”

“This is so much information,” Y/N rubbed her temples.

George poured himself a drink, “I was like you for a really long time. I fought with my father every time I saw him, and I spent most of my teens and twenties drunk and alone. It’s a sad, lonely life that you have an opportunity to avoid. Take a chance, make mistakes. It’ll be worth it.”

Y/N sat there for a minute, trying to absorb all of the information that had been thrown at her. The office door burst open and Tony came in, “Good, your mother said you’d be here. I need you to do something.” Y/N’s nerves immediately felt like they were on fire. The moment her father had that look on his face, it was a problem, “There is a deal coming up and we need to present a united front. With the rumours swirling since your return, we’ve discussed and think the best move is for you to marry Steve.” 

“Tony—,” George tried to warn him that it wasn’t the time. The whole office was frozen as she absorbed the information. 

The laugh that broke the spell was harsh when Y/N realized he wasn’t kidding, “Oh my god. OH MY GOD! That talk about not wasting my life was just a load of crap.” She whirled around to Tony, “You will never learn, will you? I am not some piece of property that you can trade!”

Her father tried to walk closer but she stopped him. He continued anyway, “What is your objection to Steve, exactly? He’s a good man...mostly. We thought he'd be a good match for you three years ago and you are even closer now.”

Y/N started to walk towards the door but she turned, “I knew about your plans for me then. It’s part of the reason I left. You move people around like pawns and don’t seem to know or care that your choices affect us. All I’ve ever wanted is a say in my life and every fucking time I think maybe it’ll be different, you manage to prove me wrong. So congratulations, you continue to fuck it up.” She stared unblinkingly at Tony, “I think it goes without saying that I’ll be taking you up on your offer.” 

Y/N walked down into the Ivory bar on a mission. She found her brother in his usual booth with the group. She marched up to the table, “Evening, gentlemen.” They all nodded at her before she turned her attention to Steve. She planted her hands on the table, “Look here, Rogers, you can just move on to the next girl and stop wasting my time and yours. Do me a favor and lose my number. I’ll never marry you.” 

She didn’t look back as the men watched her through the window. She swung her leg over her bike and shot off. No one said a word and instead turned to look at Tony and George who had come down after her.

After she had left, Y/N pulled off near Central Park and parked. She wandered for hours until she bumped into someone. She had felt the weight of someone’s gaze for a while. Spinning around, she expected to see a familiar guard and was ready to tell them off. Instead of one of Tony’s men, it was the person who haunted her nightmares. “Better watch where you’re going, darling.” The voice made her blood run cold. Y/N was looking into the eyes of Brock Rumlow, the devil himself.

She stumbled back, trying to put some distance between them, “What are you doing here?”

“Looking for you. You think I’d just let you leave?” Brock grabbed her arm and jammed a finger into her stomach, “You’ve got my kid in there.”

She laughed in his face, “No, I don’t.” He gritted his teeth and tightened his on her arm. Y/N knew that she was going to have bruises later. 

“You killed our baby?” she shook her head, but Brock was blinded by rage. He shook her, “Don’t lie to me, you traitorous whore.”

“You beat me so badly that night that I lost the baby. There is no one to blame but you. And now, you have no claim over me.” Y/N wrenched her arm away, “You lose.”

“That’s where you are wrong, darling. What would Daddy Stark think of you running away to be with me? A member of HYDRA? Would they keep you if they knew the truth? You really would be a traitorous whore in everyone’s eyes.”

Y/N thought she was going to be sick. Brock was a member of HYDRA? She couldn’t believe she hadn’t known. This was so much worse than she could have imagined. “Stay away from me.” She turned and walked away.

He called after her, “I’ll be seeing you, baby!” The moment she rounded the corner, she took off in a run. Y/N’s thoughts flying as fast as she was down the streets. Once she was a block away, she cut off into an alley. She needed a moment to get her plan organized. As much as it pained her to admit it, Brock was probably right. If everyone knew the details about his connection to HYDRA, at minimum, she’d be exiled and never be able to see her family again. At worse, she’d be dead… a traitor to the Three Families. Y/N knew that there was only one thing she could do to make her position more secure and she hated it more than anything: she needed to marry Steve Rogers.

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My HxH ships

Disclaimer: These are my thoughts on my ships to share with my Tumblr friends. If you’re some stranger who disagrees with it and it evokes negative emotions on you, kindly exit. I know the internet has a bunch of trolls/idiots that has a habit of harassing people because the ship is “wrong” or it doesn’t suit them. Well, honestly, I don’t really care if you agree with them because I don’t know you personally? And this is fictional so it’s not something to be taken personally or even seriously. Don’t confuse my personal values with what I like with the ships.

I can’t believe I even need to make a disclaimer on this because a bunch of people don’t know how to be civilized once they are anonymous on a social media platform. I will just block lol; BYEEE.

HxH I love:

Defintion - Actively ships them, willing to make fanfics of them if possible

1. Kurapika x Neon

This ship is so underrated it hurts. They may not be similar in terms of personality and views of the dead: Neon focuses more on the living and the present (that’s why she doesn’t have sympathy for the dead and tells Chrollo her fortunes are for the living), while Kurapika focuses on the past and mourns for the dead (his mourning for his clan). But I think both of them are very similar in terms of loneliness. Neon doesn’t have friends and lacks affections from her father; Kurapika is lonely because all of his clan members are dead.

I know the common barrier is Neon’s hobby for flesh collecting, but I think this difference is what makes it more complicated and interesting for me. Especially when Kurapika has been in many seasons under the Nostrade Family... it makes me wonder what kind of interactions they had since it was all Killua and Gon on-screen.

2. Hisoka x Machi

I actually had always liked Hisoka with Machi together. Hisoka seems to really like her and enjoys her company. Machi may seem irritated by him but I think she’s more of a tsundere? She still decides to patch him after the fight against Chrollo, and their relationship got a bit more complicated after the Hisoka vs Chrollo fight.

3. Tserreidnich x Theta

Okay, I LOVE this ship. This is right out love-hate kind of relationship. It lowkey reminds me of Clarice/Hannibal and I find this ship so fascinating? I don’t see a lot of fanfics of them unfortunately. So Legacy by Alltagsabenteuer is a blessing from heaven because it’s the only TsexTheta tag in AO3.

So far I haven’t found anyone else who loves this ship, so please identify yourself if you do.

I’m starting to think I like those complicated love-hate dynamics....

HxH ships I like:

Definition of like - Actively ships them, may make fanfics of them or not. But doesn’t think of them 24/7.

1. Pokkle x Ponzu

This was like, a ship that never really sailed because Togashi decided to kill them both. I think this ship had potential and I’m hoping they find happiness in the afterlife.

2. Chrollo x Neon

I actually really liked how they vibe together during this one scene (although Chrollo targetted to meet her for her fortune-telling abilities). I am a KuraNeon shipper but I like the idea of Chrollo being a 3rd party because I think it fits so well? Chrollo and Kurapika are enemies and I had always found it fascinating how both of them got entangled with the same woman.  Also, people be like “Neon is 16″ uhhh... Hunterpedia states she’s born in 1982, along with Kurapika and Milluki. She’s the same age as Kurapika and Milluki; and Kurapika is widely accepted as 19 now; and it does tally if you see the Hunter x Hunter timeline (although there has been several discrepancies and dubious canonity when it comes to the Official Hunter x Hunter database and the HxH manga timeline). I’m not sure why people falsely remember Neon as a year younger than Kurapika and use it as a common argument to not support Chrollo/Neon when people have no problems (except for some) when it comes to shipping Kurapika with Chrollo.

So... Chrollo be that Mr. Steal Yo Girl and Kurapika’s posessive reaction to it will be astronomical.

I am also hella gonna support the upcoming #kuroneoweek2021 in May! @kuroneoweek

So you bet there will be more fanfics of KuroNeo from me!

HxH ships I support:

Definition of support: Does not actively ship them, but definitely likes the idea of them

1. Killua x Canary

I love how Canary tries her best for Killua and she does care about him. I realised that Killua seems to have an issue with older women (e.g. Bisky, Elevator girl), but I think for girls who are about his age, he’s okay with them. There is a misconception that he can’t communicate with women well (probably because he has issues with his mother), but I think that’s just for old ladies - Canary is cool with him.

2. Hisoka x Illumi

It drives me nuts how these two have matching outfits. I know that they have a more of a give-and-take transactional relationships rather than purely friends, but this is fab best friendship goals. My friend loves this ship and I absolutely support it.

3. Retz (with either Gon or Killua)

The unreasonable hate on Retz is insane because “she’s ruining KilluGon”. I think it’s really refreshing to see Killua and Gon hang out with another girl their age. You can see that Gon is really sweet towards her. Killua is more suspicious of her for a good reason but he never hated her. Remember that Killua is not used to interacting with people due to his family background. In fact, as @u-named mentioned, Killua and Retz shares similarities in terms of wanting to be free from their family.

4. Alluka x Gon

I would love to see a fanfic where Gon starts to woo Alluka and Killua will be that overprotective brother, knowing that his best friend is a player. Alluka/Nanika healed Gon anyway, so she’s technically his saving angel.

5. Ging x Gon’s unnamed mom

Okay, this is a bit weird cause we don’t know who Gon’s mom is... (and screw that Pregnancy Stone theory, I just think it’s weird how Ging mentioned Gon’s mom in the tape if he never had a mom lmao; is he gonna say “which you don’t have” like ???).

I actually like fanfics that explores Ging’s life before Gon and various interpretations of who Gon’s mom is.

What Lies Beyond by Thatsoneperson is one of the best fanfics I’ve read when it comes to Ging’s life before Gon. The ending was really heartbreaking and I had always loved the “Gon’s mom was from the DC” theory because Yusuke’s ancestral father came from the Demon World and there were hints of Gon’s dark aura throughout CA and Election arc.

Somehow in my headcanon, I had always envisioned Gon’s mom to resemble Usagi from Sailor Moon but with Gon’s hair colour. Gon also has certain personality traits that are very different from Ging and I believe that came from his mother.

6. Meruem x Komugi

One of the most unexpected, beautiful, saddest, semi-canon pairings in the entire series. It highkey reminds me of Beauty and the Beast. It was beautiful how Meruem, a Chimera Ant that was supposed to be destined to rule the world above humans, became gradually attached to a blind human girl.

7. Killua x Machi

This is fucking weird; because of the age gap but I like to think Killua meets her again one day when he grows up, and they had some sort of flirtation because he needs to be on par with Gon when it comes to dating women.

There was actually a cute fic about that called A Series of Pick Up Lines by Yandere Shoujo where Killua was trying to use pick up lines on a woman because he wanted to try it out after knowing that Gon dated women prior and just so happens to bump into Machi.

[whatiwillsay]

kaylor oomfs avert your eyes 😞

i get asked from time to time “why don’t you like kaylor, why don’t you like karlie, why do you think kaylor isn’t together? why aren’t you and ttb married yet?” and i think it’s high time i centralize my thoughts and receipts on all of that in a little timeline of shady things karlie has done to taylor that have made me wary of kaylor/karlie/that whole situation.  don’t read if you stan kaylor this isn’t for you (unless you know you’re interested in the truth.)

first things first, i do think something romantic happened between kaylor go read @swiftiesleuth‘s realistic kay timeline for what i (generally) think happened between them.

but long story short - i think joshlie is real, i think they weren’t all that serious at the beginning, she famously didn’t meet his family for years, he didn’t take her to work events for a long time, so there’s room for her to have a fling with taylor even though we ended up with a real joshlie endgame.

taylor’s music and art supports this theory - in the wd mv she paints herself as the other woman, on rep she sings of secret sexy sex with her best friend that drives her crazy, in cruel summer she sings of a miserable, secret, and toxic situation with a person who rejects her love, in illicit affairs and august again she is the other woman - the art matches up.  she also sings about her sunshine being gone on lover, and eclipsed on folklore. we have good clues in taylor’s artistic expression.

taylor’s given interviews about some of these karlie songs - she said cruel summer was about the start to a “doomed” relationship and look at what she said about august:

“It kind of explores the idea of the undefined relationship. As humans, we're all encouraged to just be cool and just let it happen, and don't ask what the relationship is — Are we exclusive? But if you are chill about it, especially when you're young, you learn the very hard lesson that if you don't define something, oftentimes they can gaslight you into thinking it was nothing at all, and that it never happened. And how do you mourn the loss of something once it ends, if you're being made to believe that it never happened at all?”

if joshlie is real which i think they are that 100% sounds like taylor having to process being gaslit by karlie while she cheats on josh with her.

so why do i think joshlie is real?

-  josh has no credible gay rumors that didn’t originate on gaylor tumblr: he has old ex gfs that came before karlie, harvard message boards gossiped about him and didn’t like him but never said that he was gay, in fact one of the complaints josh’s schoolmates had about him was that he got special treatment for her girlfriend at parties.

-  as stated before taylor’s art suggests she’s been the other woman with someone in her life recently.  if josh and karlie are beards then what is the affair? why is taylor the other woman so often all of a sudden?

-  i’ve spoken to someone with a mutual friend with the kushners - grain of salt of course, i know you can only trust stuff you hear from me with no proof so much, but i do absolutely trust this person and they say - no way in hell is joshlie fake, no way in hell is josh gay, no way in hell is karlie having taylor’s baby.  also karlie absolutely has moved down to miami with josh.  i’m sure we’ll see her in nyc and la from time to time but she is living in miami now.

-  vicky ward, who is a real investigative journalist not some unhinged person on tumblr, wrote a tell all about the kushners.  she uncovered gay rumors about josh’s father and josh’s brother but not josh.  she had actual sources and was legitimately digging up tons of dirt on these people and not a word about josh being gay or joshlie being fake.

-  yes karlie did convert to judaism.  it’s really offensive to suggest she didn’t.  of course she always could have done it for personal reasons but occam’s razor dictates she did it for josh i don’t know what else to tell you 🤷‍♀️

-  also just vibes.  karlie writes him love notes and leaves them with his breakfast.  they make playlists for one another.  if the kushners weren’t so heinous they’d be cute.

so in the joshlie is real world view i inhabit, i don’t stan kaylor the same way i do swiftgron because i don’t think kaylor was ever a committed monogamous relationship.  important and impactful on taylor’s life? absolutely.  inspired some amazing music? 100%. but was is true and tragic love that drives me insane and makes me feral?  no.  i don’t believe so.  is it still an interesting and iconic ship? yes!  but i don’t stan because it wasn’t like...true love or gay shit like that.

so let’s talk about karlie’s screwups that 1. assure me kaylor is not together and 2. make me have no desire to stan karlie/kaylor.

1.  after the kimye drama (something that deeply traumatized taylor we now know thanks to miss americana) karlie said she was sure kim was a lovely person 😭 now i know she walked it back and tweeted she and taylor had one another’s backs. i know karlie was just trying to be diplomatic.  but come on...if someone did what kim did to taylor to my lover or hell even just my friend i would say “fuck that clout chasing fame whore” bottom line.  c’mon guys.  have higher standards for your otp.

karlie also has vibed with kim on IG about her adidasas line.  recently!  yes i know she’s just promoting her brand but c’mon.  taylor still hates kim, their drama got rehashed in march 2020 and just 6 months later kim n karlie are bestie-ing around on ig.

2.  ALL the fucking masters drama and scooter fucking braun

-  not long at all after the masters heist karlie was palling around with scooter on a yacht like come on the only other thing taylor is equally as traumatized over as the kimye drama is the master’s heist.  why is karlie hanging out with him and partying with him at this time?

-  karlie liked a tweet completely incinerating taylor (in a gross and unfair/inaccurate way) regarding the masters heist.  she unliked it but still.  why was she even looking at that shit.

-  and yeah we gotta talk about perez.  so perez hilton (who is a scumbag and gross but sometimes does have legitimate tea) posted a video saying that karlie and taylor were no longer friends because karlie betrayed taylor to scooter.  now if that were all there was to it, it’d be dumb gossip.  but a taylor fan account posted the video to twitter ashley avignone and claire winter both liked the tweet.  ashley liked two tweets about it.  perez proceeded to tweet that since two of taylor’s oldest and truest friends liked the tweets it must mean he was correct and neither of the girls unliked the tweets.  ashley and claire are low key people, not celebs, not pawns in a “fued narrative”, just long time and loyal friends of taylor’s.  they liked the tweet, imo, because there’s some truth to it.

-  that brings me to spencer pratt.  spencer is a reality star and super swiftie/huge fan of taylor’s.  he despises karlie.  he’s tweeted negatively about her and he also had perez onto his podcast to talk about the drama between karlie and taylor.  taylor herself sent him a cardigan.  do you really think taylor is going to allow a cardigan to go out to the guy who’s dragging her girlfriend or bestie? i don’t think so.  receipts on perez and spencer here.

3.  karlie posted for hailey fucking beiber’s bday instead of taylor’s and hailey hates taylor 🤢🤢🤢

4.  karlie married into a fascist family that is associated with the trumps.  like how can you expect me to stan?  trump is a fucking criminal evil piece of shit.  i know karlie isn’t like him (probably) but it’s still awful.  kimby even goes around liking ivanka’s ig posts like give me a fucking break 😭.

in summation, you can disagree w me all you like, you can ship kaylor all you like, but if you’re of sound mind i don’t think you can look at the facts in this post and think i’m misguided for not being a kaylor/karlie stan.  and you can’t blame me for thinking if you spend a lot of time obsessing over that ship you may not really be that big a fan of taylor’s.  and if you’re spending a lot of time leading lgbt kids on to think they’re going to get a kaylor end game when all the objective facts of the case suggest that that’s never going to happen you might need to reevaluate but at the very least you certainly can’t press me for not doing all that.