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OPINION HOUR - Is Richard ‘Dick’ Grayson a furry?
The opinions voiced in this article may not align with the views of this journal
Dick Grayson, by his own admission, is a furry (see related articles).
Over the past few days Mr. Grayson ( @notnotnightwing ) has put out multiple posts about furries, including art of his own fursona (see post here). The shocking this is, he’s not the only Wayne to be one.
His father, Bruce Wayne ( @officialbruciewayne ), has posted multiple pictures of what I can only assume to be his very own fursona. This leads me to wonder three things, how long have these two, Mr. Grayson specifically, been furries? Are there any other furries within the Wayne Family? And are the rumours of a secret society of billionaire furries true?
While it is not, at this moment, possible for me to make a case for the latter of my questions, the first two questions are things I can easily answer.
Given that Mr. Grayson has fully stated that he is in fact a furry, that checks that question of mine off.
As for the question of how long he has been a furry, or at least how long he’s had this fursona, I have contacted a specialist in fursona design (who wishes to remain anonymous for legality’s sake) to evaluate Mr. Grayson’s fursona. They had the following to say -
“Simplistic, reminiscent of 2000’s emo culture (see related articles), lacks detail. Overall a 5/10, very mediocre for a first attempt. I don’t believe this guy’s been a furry for all that long. Probably 3-4 months tops.”
I find myself agreeing with their observations, as the character simply lacks any of the flare and drama that one tends to see from the furry community. It simply seems to be Mr. Grayson with a snout, and I believe more could be done.
However, despite the harsh criticisms, it is quite good for a first attempt and is reminiscent of many horror-esque comics from the early 2010’s furry community (see related articles).
So therefore our two main questions are answered; Dick Grayson is a furry and has been one for the past few months at least.
I’d like to end this off with thanking Gotham Reports for platforming me and running this article, as it is something I believe the world should know.
Let us know your thoughts on the topic (here)
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#gotham reports#gotham city#dick grayson#dick grayson wayne#furry#2000’s emo culture#wayne enterprises#gotham news network#wayne entertainment#gotham news#gotham report#bruce wayne#gnn#batman#nightwing#opinion hour
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gonna say it. newer emos making it about being edgy and dark instead of about being expressive of your emotions and struggles in a society that deems emotional honesty inappropriate fucking ruined the subculture.
#seriously I'm so tired of it#wearing a t-shirt with a misanthropic slogan on it and a cheap culturally appropriated pentacle necklace doesn't make you emo sorry!!#not even getting into classic versus 2000's emo because we have to unite against our common enemy: the modern dumbed-down elitist “”emo“”#emo#2000s emo#post
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Born to RAWR XD, forced to uwu :3
#2000s#2010s#early 2010s#internet slang#internet culture#rawring 20s#rawr xd#uwu#emo#emo scene#scene#i said this#if this flops imma be reworking it without the 'uwu' bc i feel like 'uwu' unfortunately had it's moment like 8-16 months ago and now it fee#s just a little out of place and dated in this analogy#ugh this post is JUST a little wrong to me#for one the uwu being older thing for another i've never been FORCED to uwu so in fact i have NEVER uwu'd#thirdly the 'uwu <3' tag popping up making me believe there are/were forces at play i did not take into account
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Shhshshshshsh (1. is my drawing 2. sth I found on 4chan[cry about it])
#emo#scemo#manic pixie dream girl#mlp#myspace#2014 tumblr#mermaid aesthetic#y2k nostalgia#avatar 2009#2000s web#2000's/2009's anime#2000s scene#retro anime#art#digital anime drawing#cringe#cringe culture is dead
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NGL miss TheVenomnomnomnom's videos. She was one of the people I first followed when getting into scene/emo culture. Her and Porcelain Panic were two OG's that were big inspo's for me ~*
Their hair is so BRIGHT. o_O
#TheVenomnomnomnom#scene#scene aesthetic#scene girls#scene queen#scene hair#2010's scene#2000's emo#2000's scene#green hair#pink hair#scene culture#scene makeup#scene fashion#Spotify
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Hello there 💜
I'm Miss Lena, though I also accept "ma'am" and sometimes "mommy." Formerly kittytittycommittee
I'm just a petite, lonely MILF here to take advantage of all the psychosexual issues you don't want to talk about in therapy. If you need praise/cuddles and also have a lingering fear of la chancla (or your culture's equivalent), you've come to the right place.
House rules:
Behave yourselves. Being disrespectful will get you blocked.
If you're here, it means you're willing to see NSFT content.
If you're a minor, scram.
I'm not answering DM's right now. Yes, even you. I'll let y'all know if that changes.
Asks are open and questions are welcome, but always refer back to rule #1.
Bigotry is not tolerated.
My kinks:
Femdom & gentle femdom
Pegging/prostate play
Edging & teasing/denial
Praise & pet names
Breastfeeding & breast worship
Bondage & collars
Toys
Domestic discipline
Spanking & light/moderate impact play
Lingerie
Glory holes
Creampies
Mild exhibitionism/voyeurism
My limits:
Weapons
Blood, piss, scat, etc
Diapers
Incest
CNC (receiving)
Cuckqueaning
Age play younger than teenage
Fisting/extreme insertions
Extreme impact, roughness, & humiliation
General about me:
In my thirties
Bisexual. Switch-y for women only. Yes, even you.
Single and firmly off the market
I have nothing but love for bisexual men, short kings, uncut cocks, bottom boys, and butch women. Y'all are perfect and we should make out.
Catholic school survivor
Love reading, gardening, cooking, DIY, textile arts, history, spooky shit, & theme parks
Emo, motown, 90's/early 2000's pop, showtunes, 80's new wave, & some metal
So come by and say hello 😘
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How would they dress?
Younger Bros Edition
Satan
Mainly dark and neutral colors ~ Browns, Beiges, Sage Greens, and Blacks
Took him the longest out of all his brothers to develop his own personal style due to his lack and over-concentrated knowledge of Fashion
Always carrying some type of bag with him to store any books, notebooks/journals, and cat treats/toys for any strays
Isn’t inspired by any type of specific fashion type, but he has a specific style he likes to call his own that’s distinctive to him
Always wearing an oversized t-shirt and button up combo, or a Sweater + Button up combo
Asmodeus
A mix of colors ~ Light pinks & Reds to Whites and Blacks
Inspired by Preppy/Minimalist Fashion along with Club fashion (but I can also see him being into Rave Fashion/Culture)
Loves to wear revealing clothing like crop tops, tanks with cut outs, and low rise jeans, but also loves to wear sweaters, varsity jackets, and Wide legged/Flared jeans
He would wear thongs/g-strings along with low rise jeans or with a pair of regular jeans + a crop top (Or he’ll just wear them as a fun surprise for his partner <3)
Beelzebub
Mainly Dark colors ~ Blacks, Deep Reds, Grays
Same as Levi will always wear oversized Graphic tees and hoodies, Beel will always rock some type of tank/compression shirt
Prefers gym or basketball shorts over jeans, but also enjoys wearing loose sweats & Cargos
Isn’t really inspired by any type of fashion, he just wears what he finds the most comfortable to workout in, or what he thinks he looks the best in (he looks good in anything I love him so much)
One of the reasons he prefers tanks is because he has multiple tattoos across his the left side of his chest, to his shoulders going down his arm that all have important meanings (Some corresponding to his brothers, some representing Lilith, and even some to cover up his scars from the celestial war)
Belphegor
Little smelly emo shit.
Dark & Light colors ~ Deep purples, Blacks, Grays, and Whites
The first thing you notice about him when he enters a room is the sound of his pant chains jingling and his eye-catching studded belts
Always wanted to have to ‘Older brother in the 2000’s aesthetic’ so he took heavy inspo from it once he was given more individuality in his style after the Fall
I can also see him dressing more on the Colorful Scene side decked out head to toe in Neons, Blacks, and checkered patterns
#obey me#obey me swd#obey me nightbringer#obey me!#obey me drabble#obey me hcs#obey me satan#obey me asmodeus#obey me beelzebub#obey me belphegor
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EMO vs MALL EMO vs SCENE vs SCENECORE
i see a lot of confusion and arguments around what is emo/scene or not so i wanted to make this blog as a fan of most of these genres to hopefully help clarify a little!
EMO this genre is the ORIGINAL emo, although it sounds completely different from the emo music most people know today. it originated in the DC hardcore scene in the mid-80s, spawning from post-hardcore and hardcore and gained more popularity in the 90s. bands include: rites of spring, sunny day real estate, moss icon, cap'n jazz, the get up kids,
if you want to listen to some emo music, here's a spotify playlist i recommend!
MALL EMO mall emo is what most people think of when they hear the word emo. i call it mall emo (not sure if others do or not but i think it's most fitting) because it's the bands whose merch you would find somewhere like hot topic or spencer's(not a dig at mall emo i love this genre so much). it's the music genre(s) associated with the emo style and gained a ton of popularity in the 2000s. bands include my chemical romance, falling in reverse, all time low, panic! at the disco, fall out boy, paramore, pierce the veil, sleeping with sirens, evanescence, escape the fate, flyleaf, taking back sunday etc.
here's a playlist (i know it says actual emo music, i think they mean actual mall emo music as opposed to like yungblud + tx2 type shit)
IMPORTANT TO NOTE: EMO AND MALL EMO ARE NOT THE SAME THING!!!!! however, getting mad at someone for thinking mall emo is real emo is kind of pointless. because of the popularity of the emo style, the word has evolved to more assosciated with mall emo in pop culture than real emo. most people don't know the difference and that's not like a personal failing on their part that you need to be rude about! if/when you explain it to someone, be respectful! i'm looking at you, garrett!
SCENE scene is a subculture within emo, with its own more colorful version of the same fashion elements, that gained popularity in the late 2000s/early 2010s. there are a lot of different music genres within the scene subculture but the ones people most think of is crunkcore, which is a mix between electronic, hiphop, rap, and metal. bands include: dot dot curve, ismfof, attack attack!, millionaires, brokencyde, metro station, the medic droid, kill paradise, chunk! no captain chunk!, jj demon, breathe carolina, 3OH!3 etc
SCENECORE scenecore is a subgenre of hyperpop that originated on tiktok. it uses the aesthetic of the scene subculture a lot, and scene related things are often mentioned in the songs. however, the difference between scene lyrics and scenecore lyrics is that while scene music mostly has lyrics about sex, drugs, love, partying, clubbing etc scenecore lyrics are oftentimes about self harm or other harmful behavior or weirdly fetishize scene people. this is a problem because it's essentially just harmful stereotypes about scene trying to perpetuate itself as actual scene music. bands include: 6arelyhuman, kets4eki, odetari, rebzyyx, d3r, asteria, luvwillow, etc.
here's a playlist
IMPORTANT TO NOTE: SCENECORE IS NOT IN ANY WAY SCENE. scenecore isn't even related to the scene style like mall emo is, it's just hyperpop! if you want to get into scene, do your research!! listen to recommendations from actual scene kids!! 6arelyhuman is not scene!!!!!
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hello hi !! i love your art <33 do you think you could drop any nina hcs you have ?
hello and thank u!! here's some art from earlier today of my versions of nina and jane <3
as for nina's hcs,, well I honestly haven't thought too much on her place in my lil fan storyline I'm making.
so let's see what I can make up on the spot!! kisdbsjhdkdsk
Nina's "origins"
like most creepypastas, I don't like Nina's original story. (lol) so here's my just as shitty version.
nina, in my world, was still a jtk fangirl. she heard his story on the news and was captivated by his mugshot. (definitely the type to romanticize true crime) she began emulating his chelsea grin with makeup and posting abt her infatuation w him on her social media.
this fixation on Jeff opened a door to the slenderman, which it gladly stepped through. like any edgy teen being stalked by an eldredge horror would, she began to document her experience w the monster on her verious social media outlets.
to prevent further exposure of the proxies n what not, nina was due to die. in the midst of her kidnapping, she expressed her interest in working alongside the monsters that stalked her.
in a rather sitcom-y way, nina was now a part of the problem, if u will. working w her fav serial killers </3
her style
clothing:
apart from being engrossed in the emo/scene culture, her clothing style is heavily influenced by the early 2000s. she loves all things gaudy and over the top, often resulting in a hot topic explosion.
intrests:
most likely influenced by her style, her interests in angsty media should be noted. she's an avid reader of johnny the homicidal maniac, death note, and other media in the like. her fave bands include- sleeping w sirens, get scared, msi, and blood on the dance floor.
(while on trips into town, she makes it a point to stop by the local nerd shop to stalk up on (rob) her favs.)
crime: (lmao)
let's just say she's very reckless. she leaves behind crums of evidence everywhere she goes. at this point, she's stopped making an attempt to hide her tracks.
she gets a little too into the killing thing- often being playful and flirting w her victims. she sees it all as one big game and definitely believes she's invincible.
relationships
-jane is her person, the perfect amount of balance and authority that counteracts her crazy. jane sees nina as a person in need of guidance and maybe a bit of parenting. nina sees jane as a big sister of sorts and often comes to her for advice and to confide in.
-toby is her bestie. point, blank, period. those two get into a little too much trouble together. they became close via the long drives that resulted from their extensive missions. at first, nina had the hots 4 toby but soon grew out of them infavor of his friendship.
fun lil tid bit- they like to sit in eachothers company while they read. nina reads her manga/comics and toby his books.
-jeff,, well jeff, for obvious reasons, isn't too found of nina. he finds her annoying and tiring, which is rich coming from him. he does his best to avoid her, but when the unavoidable is unavoidable, she ignores him. they say never meet ur idols and boy, they weren't kidding. all that time fantasizing abt her prince rly didn't match up to the sleazy prick she now works w. let's just say they don't get along.
-as 4 the majority of the creeps, there seems to be a consensus that nina is annoying af, and shes to be avoided. (rip nina)
so this was kinda shit! but either way, I hope u enjoyed the read. I may revisit this someday and flesh it out. or just scrap it all together pff!! lemme know what u think and lemme know any of ur guy's-s hcs or suggestions! i love reading what u have to say. (even if what u have to say conflicts w what i have to say)
#everytime someone asks for hcs i write a whole ass novel#pfff#my art#creepypasta fandom#digital art#creepypasta#creepypasta fanart#fanart#nina the killer fanart#nina the killer#nina the killer headcanons#nina the killer hc#jane the killer fanart#jane the killer#ggg headcannons
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ღWhat the JJK characters listen to part 2
ʚCharacters included: Yuuji, Megumi, Nobara, Inumaki, Yuuta, Maki
⤑Back to navigation ⤑part 1
a/n Nobody asked for a second part. Do i care? no. idk if im missing anyone anyways YO THIS IS FUN
Yuuji Itadori
Honestly, he screams Shakira to me, and Jennifer Lopez too.
His entire music taste consists of 2000s pop music thats super nostalgic and at the same time makes you cringe.
ALSO, he has the Backstreet Boys on repeat. Like literally on loop all the time.
Tried, keyword tried, getting into classical music just to seem cultured and fancy but he ended listening to piano covers of Call Me Maybe and Britney Spears.
He´s the type of person you´d take with you to do carpool karaoke cause you know he´s gonna play the songs everyone knows.
Honorable mention: NewJeans (cause he´s secretly not so secretly a kpop stan)
Megumi Fushiguro
Isn´t it obvious?
He´s SO Lana Del Rey coded.
ALSO, he had a Melanie Martinez phase that´s really not a phase but he says it is.
Other than Lana, he listens to soft beat type of songs, like Cigarettes After Sex, Men I Trust or Clairo.
Even if its not his usual vibe, he lowkey highkey really enjoys Coldplay after Yuuji showed him one of their songs, especially their softer tuned songs. (aka Sparks im gonna cry hol up)
Honorable mention: Billie Eilish
Kugisaki Nobara
SHES A BARBZ ALL THE WAY
Her whole vibe is hot pink and a hot girl typa gal. That applies to her music taste as well.
Shes very much into female rappers like Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion too.
And lets not forget the classic pop stars like Ari or Jessie J.
Shes honestly in that sense a lot like Yuuji. They both connect because they listen to a lot of older pop music, except Nobara listens to more girly ish songs or in general songs that are very much female empowerment (queen behaviour)
Honorable mention: SZA (she had Kill Bill at full volume on repeat every time the boys annoyed her)
Inumaki Toge
Okay listen. I see a lot of headcanons that Inumaki is a huge gamer, like Fortnite type of gamer.
The first thing i thought of when i thought of this was dubstep and electro music. Also underground beatboxing.
Like bro i´m sorry im not but to me gamers are equivalent to that when it comes to music and im telling yall cause i had A PHASE (very cringe one we do not talk about it)
I also feel like he tried to be emo once but he only got as far as listening to Twenty One Pilots which isnt even emo so.
Honorable mention: Pitbull, he started listening to him as a joke because of the memes but its not a joke anymore
Yuuta Okkotsu
Ok ok to me he´s very soft boy coded, kind of like Megumi but more bright and cheerful.
HES A SWIFTIE. I dont make the rules sorry
You know that 2020 phase where everyone listened to soft music like Clairo, mxmtoon, Conan Gray, etc? Yeah he never got out of that phase.
BUT, hes evolved yall, his top genre is indie music.
lowkey feel like Inumaki got him into Twenty One Pilots and now he uses their music as an excuse to scream. He´s hella good at rapping their songs too like zayum.
Honorable mention: One Direction cause he never got over their disbandment
Maki Zenin
HEAR ME OUT
Before yall say anything listen to me.
I had to think this one through but shes very much rapper vibes to me, like og 2000s rappers like 2pac and Eminem.
I dont even know WHY but she just screams west coast thug life type of music.
Disses on modern rappers except Kendrick Lamar and MAYBE Travis Scott but thats saying too much.
I´m also convinced Yuuta introduced her to Joji and she cried in her room afterwards.
Honorable mention: Bruno Mars, dont ask
#headcanons#fanfic#anime#fanfiction#jujutsu kaisen#jujustu kaisen#jjk fluff#jjk#jjk headcanons#headcanon#itadori yuuji#jjk yuuji#itadori#nobara#megumi#yuuji itadori#megumi fushiguro#jjk megumi#jujutsu megumi#jujutsu kaisen megumi#jujutsu nobara#nobara kugisaki#jjk nobara#jujutsu kaisen nobara#inumaki toge#jjk inumaki#jujutsu kaisen inumaki#toge#okkotsu yuuta#jjk yuuta
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Guys are there any emo kids still???
Am I outdated? It seems like this whole culture is very stuck in the 2000's and that there's not a lot of new ppl coming up. I'd love to make friends in the scene, but I don't know where or how to look.
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I know a popular idea for Kurloz is that he's based on the band Ghost, and it makes sense. The skeletons and religious themes are there, but consider this.
These are the same image. I always interpreted Kurloz as being a parody to 2000's emo culture rather than gothic.
I mean even "The Dark Carnival" could be switched up with "The Black Parade" if you think about it.
#homestuck#dancestors#kurloz makara#ghost#mcr#my chemical romance#the black parade#purple blood#emo#gothic#THEY ARE DIFFERENT
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Rip 2000's emo culture and music, you would have loved at the risk of feeling dumb
#twenty one pilots#clancy#tyler joseph#josh dun#at the risk of feeling dumb#idk why i just feel like the sing would do well then you know?#its the same energy for me
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Most emo genres, mall emo/mallcore, scene and scenecore explained i guess
I've seen a lot of people online argue over what "real emo" is and how it's different from "mallcore" and the "is x emo" questions a lot. So I decided to make this post explaining emo genres, the waves of emo, emo culture in general and scene and scenecore stuff. (This is gonna be a long read)
Note: I am NOT claiming to be a scribe on all things emo/scene!!! This is just me trying to explain it from all the knowledge and research I've done. And my weird music autism too. I might get some stuff wrong potentially.
EMO SUBGENRES
Before we begin, I need to specify that emo as a genre has evolved a lot since its inception and varies from band to band, and subgenre to subgenre. This genre has been influenced by hardcore punk, post-hardcore, alternative rock, indie-rock, and even pop punk.
Emo (as in the blanket genre and all of its subgenres) include sincere expression of emotions (emo is literally short for emotional) musically and lyrically, melodic songwriting, and highly expressive and passionate vocals.
EMOCORE
aka Emotional Hardcore. This is the ORIGINAL emo genre. Starting all the way back in the early-ish to middish 80s in Washington D.C. as an offshoot of Post-Hardcore and is also a response to the Hardcore Punk scene growing stagnant.
Emocore toned down the aggressiveness of hardcore punk and put more melodic empathetic along, shouted vocals and fast distorted guitars on midtempos to focus on melodies and dynamics. And of course the emotional, introverted, introspective lyrics.
Bands defined as Emocore are: Rites of Spring, Moss Icon, Embrace, Dag Nasty, Etc
MIDWEST EMO
aka Indie Emo or Post-Emo Indie Rock. Starting in the mid-90s, Midwest Emo combined Seattle's indie rock/alternative rock scene with post-hardcore and emocore music from D.C. The creation of this genre is typically credited to Sunny Day Real Estate from Seattle.
Midwest Emo features alternating loud and soft dynamics, strained and off-key (almost whiny sounding) vocals, and that classic "twinkly" guitar sound. This sub-genre mostly got its name due to a shit ton of bands coming from midwest cities and just middle of bumb-fuck no where midwest eras as well.
Bands defined as Midwest Emo are: Sunny Day Real Estate, American Football, Cap'n Jazz, Jimmy Eat World, etc.
SKRAMZ/SCREAMO
Started in the early 90s in California, Screamo (also called Skramz) is an offshoot of emo that takes emo's emotional nature and melodic guitars and combines them with the speed, intensity, and aggression of hardcore punk. Skramz also took the abrasiveness of noise rock and has an unconventional structure like math rock, with frequent changes in rhythm and tempo.
There was later influence with math rock, mathcore, post-rock, sludge metal, post-metal, and powerviolence. The powerviolence got so strong it even birthed an entire sub-sub genre of emoviolence. Screamo during the 2000s slowly transitioned into being called Skramz due to several post-hardcore and melodic hardcore bands being mislabelled as Screamo.
Bands defined as Screamo/Skramz are: Orchid, February, Gospel, Celeste, etc
EMO-POP
aka Emo Pop Punk. Emo-Pop is a fusion genre of Emo and Pop Punk, and is also the most mainstream, popular, and pop friendly form of emo. Starting back in the 90s, Emo-Pop can be traced back to Midwest Emo bands like Jimmy Eat World.
With Alternative Rock as its base and possessing the hooks, verse-chorus-verse structure, fast moving energy, and clean studio production of pop punk, Emo-Pop's success in the 2000's was destined with its confessional lyrics detail love, loss, heartbreak, and angst. And although greatly separated from its Emocore roots, much of Emo-Pop had Post-Hardcore influence as well.
Several Emo-Pop bands include: Jimmy Eat World, Taking Back Sunday, Paramore, My Chemical Romance, The Used, Early Brand New, Most of pre-hiatus Fall Out Boy, Fever-era Panic! At the Disco, etc
The "waves" of emo
So as you can see, there were several very different genres of emo that had their own periods of time and that developed into the emo "waves", which there are five of. They span from 1985 to the modern day. Besides the first wave, the start and end dates for the waves are wish-y wash-y, especially considering most genres still continued chugging on during the waves while one specific one got the limelight.
1st Wave Emo
1985 to 1991-ish. This is Emocore at its peak. Washington D.C.'s own "Revolution Summer" was it was called. This era leaned more into the hardcore stuff while having the artsy poetic stuff scare away the bad people
2nd Wave Emo
1992-ish to 2001-ish. 2nd wave is the most important and influence of all the waves of emo, influencing the 3rd, 4th, and 5th waves of emo. This wave had Skramz/Screamo in its early days while Midwest Emo was the most prominent. Emocore was still going and spreading outside of D.C., causing the rest of emo history.
3rd Wave Emo
2002-ish to 2008-sh. The most well known emo wave. This was when Emo-Pop was kinda everywhere and when that "emo look" formed. The swoopy bangs, the eyeliner, the black band Ts. 2000s emo. MySpace, Warped Tour, Hot Topic was seen as the shit. Mall Emo, basically as its called now. Midwest Emo, Screamo, and Emocore were going along as well (besides Screamo now being called Skramz). Jimmy Eat World also blew the fuck up in this era as an Emo-Pop group.
4th Wave Emo
2009-ish to 2018-ish. Most of the aesthetic "mall emo" choices of 3rd were dropped. A Midwest Emo revival is probably the most notable part of this, Emo-Pop was still going but had heavy Midwest Emo influences. And if there were any Midwest Emo influences, your emo albums had heavy Indie and Alternative rock influences.
5th Wave Emo
2018-ish to now. Very similar to 4th, but separates itselfs due to lacking the heavy Midwest Emo influence. It still has a lot of the Indie Rock and Alternative Rock influence, but now has a lot of Slacker Rock and Noise Pop stuff too. 5th Wave is also noted for being more diverse, featuring many more people of color, openly queer people, and a lot more women as well.
Mall Emo & Mallcore
As stated previously, Mall Emo are the emos from the 3rd wave of emo, it's just the emo kids. Mallcore is typically referred to as the bands that all 3rd wave emos liked, including those that weren't emo-pop. It's just 2000s emo kid music. BandS with merch in Hot Topic and Spencers basically.
A lot of these bands were usually Pop Punk, Power Pop, Post-Hardcore, Alternative Rock, some Alt Metal, and probably even more. A lot of those bands are Evanescence, Green Day, Pierce the Veil, Bring Me The Horizon, 30 Seconds To Mars, etc
It should be noted that while Mall Emo and Mallcore are used to differentiate 2000s emo from the other variants, i've seen some trying to using negatively like an insult towards 2000s emos/anything related to third wave emo. Typically used by people in the Emocore, Skramz/Screamo, Midwest Emo, and even 4th Wave Emo scene that really DIDN'T/ currently DON'T like the 3rd wave kids and didn't want to be associated with them. It's basically just the Trad Goth v Mall Goth of the 1990s but for emos in the 2000s to the present. Just a lot of emo elitism/emo purism for some reason over not liking 3rd wave emo (and not considering a lot of mall emos did/do actually listen to 1st, 2nd, and 4th wave emo and skramz).
EMO CULTURE/FASHION
This is gonna be short. Emo culture through the different eras isn't as differnt as people from each wave want to believe tbh. The mosh pits, the expressing yourself via lyrics, its all in every era tbh.
And when it comes to emo fashion its.....interesting. Everyone knows the third wave emo fashion; dyed black hair, swooped bangs, black band ts, skinny jeans (usually ripped), studded belts, eyeliner. The whole doodah y'know.
But there WAS fashion trends for 90s emos. A lot of it was very laid back casual stuff, they all kinda looked like poor college students or 90s skater kids or even the stereotypical 90s geek. Striped shirts, small sweaters, sneakers, some had baggy pants, etc.
BUT the studded belts, braclets, and even the dyed black hair was there in the 90s too, even the tight jeans and tight shirt also later showed up in the 90s before 2nd wave emo "ended". Even the teased stereotypical emo boy haircut started in the skramz scene in the 90s as well.
Honestly, as much as people want to say that "real emo" and "mall emo" are different, they very much have stuff in common. if not in which genre of emo, then at least in some parts of fashion and culture. 3rd wave literally just took the tight shirts, tight pants, dyed hair, studded belts and bracelets of the 2nd wave and took some small make-up influence from 90s mall goths along with their love of Hot Topic.
SCENE
The "tye-dye emos" as I've heard someone call them. Scene is an offshoot of the 3rd wave emo subculture, which is why some scene kids called themselves emo back in the 2000s. Its kinda a requirement honestly. Their name comes from the fact scene kids were heavily involved in the music and rave scene (Warped Tour, mosh pits, you name it).
The music scene kids typical listened to leaned more electronic. Genres such as crunkcore (a fusion of the nightclub base hip hop genre Crunk, dance music, electronic music, and pop), electronicore, and a lot more club music and pop oriented music (like electropop). Along with more punk/metal stuff like metalcore, alt metal, deathcore, post-hardcore, neon pop punk, and some happy hardcore.
Due how varying a lot of the music scene kids listened to, a lot of scene kids sound VERY different. Though a common theme they had in some type electronic dance music combining with hardcore or pop punk.
Scene bands include: Metro Station, Breathe Carolina, Millionaires, Cobra Starship, Never Shout Never, and many, MANY more.
It also be noted that for scene fashion, there's a BIG difference between pre-2007 and post-2007 scene. Pre-2007 was more closer to 2000s emo, all dark while posr-2007 is more recognizable bright leon colors, shit ton of accessories, and raccoon eye make-up scene.
SCENECORE
Scenecore is both an aesthetic based off of scene fashion and also a genre of music. It seems to mostly be more about the aesthetics in both scenecore fashion and scenecore music.
A lot of genres of scenecore music are hyperpop, dance-pop, electropop, and happy hardcore. Scenecore has become so prevelant in hyperpop that a sub-genre of hyperpop was formed named after the scenecore aesthetic.
Artist that are considered scenecore are: 6arleyhuman, asteria, kets4eki, d3r, whatsaheart, punkinloveee, and more
#emo#emo music#real emo#mall emo#mallcore#scene kid#scene music#scenecore#2000s emo#emocore#midwest emo#emo-pop#music#90s emo
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Day 22 Neko
I’ve been super obsessed with scenemo/ emo culture recently, especially early to mid 2000’s scenemo/ emo culture, and I also have been really into snow leopards (they’re so cute and they have big tails and the go :3 all the time) so here’s that awesome combo of the two :) i wanted to add as much domo as I could, while also being sane and normal about domo (I love Domo.) and as many things I surely would have worn if I knew how to dress myself before coming out as transmasc.
#neko girl#neko#nekomimi#nekoma#cat girl#anime catgirl#catgirl#cringetober#cringetober 2024#domo#domo kun#emo girl#gir#scene#scenemo#lol face#tomagatchi#minecraft#emo scene#2000s emo#2000s scene#2000s scemo#scemo#scemo girl#snow leopard#original character#original art
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The Warrior Cats Phenomenon
A beloved xenofiction series that is, in reality, incredibly mediocre, is subsequently glamorized and over-inflated by the perception of adolescents, influenced by the cultural landscape at the time of the fandom's mainstream conception. The era of the early 2000s brought about the popularization of the internet, and with it came a new sub-division in alt. youth pop culture; which for the sake of this tangent I will refer to as "Alternative animal expressionism." In less formal terms, just about all the artsy kids on deviantart had a fursona that walked on four legs and was adorned with an abundance of accessories and bright colors, as well as punk/emo-resembling hair styles. This is reflective of the commonplace visual aesthetics we now refer to as MySpace/MyScene subculture. MySpace was designed as a platform for older teenagers and young adults, and just so happened to collide with the rise of Youtube, and with it came two other communities that were skyrocketing in popularity; AMVs and furries. The history of furries is too long to elaborate on here, however many of them were pioneers in developing crucial components of code still used in modern operating systems. What defines a "Furry" is debated, but mostly revolves around an enjoyment of anthropomorphized animals. arguably one of if not the most popular forms of media depicting animals with such characteristics at the time was Walt Disney's The Lion King, and the growing number of forum websites meant that multiple forums and websites were bound to surface that were entirely dedicated to The Lion King and its fans, serving as a dedicated space to discuss the film, and potentially their own fan-made characters. AMV is an incredibly broad and potentially outdated term. The Acronym "AMV" was first coined as "Anime music video." Although for reasons I will touch on a bit later it can also mean "Animated music video." Again, with the notoriety of forum websites and online fan spaces, information can much more easily be found, given, and spread. Anime was still a relatively new concept in the world of Western entertainment (and was first popularized by, you guessed it, Furries.), and until files and videos could easily be shared over the internet, the only way to watch Anime was to get your hands on a physical VHS tape, which at the time still proved to be difficult and an incredibly niche practice, especially if you wanted subtitled or dubbed Anime.
Now in the 2000's, the popularity of Anime has increased almost tenfold. And while animation is a media that can be easily translated is necessary and enjoyed by a Western Audience, Japanese music did not quite reach the same level of popularity, at least not alongside Anime. Western audiences often combined clips of various Anime TV shows and films to music, most of which was Western-made. The intent, editing style, and end result of each fan-made music video often differed greatly from each other, although a common idea was evidently present: The music landscape at the time, brought on by the newest wave of counter culture, could be relatable to the situations of the animated characters. (This was not a completely new concept, and full disclosure I do not know how people made fan made music videos before computer video editing software was invented. According to Wikipedia, "The first AMV was created in 1982 by 21-year-old Jim Kaposztas. [He] hooked up two videocassette recorders to each other and edited the most violent scenes from Star Blazers to "All You Need Is Love" by the Beatles to produce a humorous effect.") These were also sometimes referred to as "Anime mixes", particularly if they contained footage from more than one property. Similar media also included MMVs ("Manga music videos"), FMVs (literally "Fan Music Videos") and HMVs (which were obviously created for a more adult audience).
The oldest AMV on Youtube (at least that I could find) After some time, the appeal of creating a fan-made music video spread to other fandoms (again through social cross-pollination, i.e. someone who was a fan of both Anime and The Lion King was more likely to adopt these mediums), particularly The Lion King, and fan made music videos using footage from the film and its sequels began to surface, although still using the "AMV" Moniker. The next logical step for anyone who enjoyed Western mainstream animation was to include other Disney properties in fan-made music videos. But why stop at mainstream? Why stop at films? the medium soon evolved to contain and pay tribute to all kinds of Western animation, from Walt Disney to cult classics such as the likes of Watership Down, to TV shows like Avatar The Last Airbender (the latter of which was often understandably grouped in with Anime and AMVs). In 2003, a group of authors underneath the pseudonym Erin Hunter released the first book in what would become one of the most popular and most beloved xenofiction book series of all time. Warriors: Into the Wild. Like most budding fandoms, Warrior Cats also sprouted dedicated fan websites for discussion of the series. The up-and-coming Warrior Cats fandom found itself somewhere on the spectrum between the anime and furry communities, combining the ingenuity and creative thinking with the"Sparkledog" furry art style. However, the more "visual" creative types lacked almost any pre-existing media to work with, and before 2009, fan-made music videos often consisted of picture slideshows with simple or non-existent effects and transitions, with some scattered fan-made animations here and there. And then, everything changed when a small team of artists and animators driven purely by devotion, passion, and seemingly sheer creative will, released the first episode of their new Anime-inspired, episodic retelling of the first Warriors book. SSSWarriorCats was so Anime-inspired, both in animation style, direction and pacing, perfectly straddling the balance between the Anime and furry communities, respectfully. The series, although technically incomplete, still garners an enormous fanbase to this day. Evidently Warrior Cats fans have been inspired by these animations for over a decade, and it's not hard to see why. And thus the release and subsequent releases of episodes sparked what is regarded as the “Classic” period in Warrior Cats fan animations, and also sparked the creation of “MAPs” (“Multi-Animator-Projects”), as opportunities to collaborate with fellow artists. To summarize, Warrior Cats had the ingenuity of Anime fans to create music videos out of already-existing content, but upon realizing they had none, looked to the furry, tactile-based artistic side of their fandom’s conception to create it, instead of waiting for an official adaptation to surface. (And considering what Tencent animation is doing… I’m glad they did.) In other, perhaps more unserious terminology, the Warrior Cats fandom is the cultural brainchild of the Anime and Furry communities. To summarize, Warrior Cats had the ingenuity of Anime fans to create music videos out of already-existing content, but upon realizing they had none, looked to the furry, tactile-based artistic side of their fandom’s conception to create it, instead of waiting for an official adaptation to surface. (And considering what Tencent animation is doing… I’m glad they did.) In other, perhaps more unserious terminology, the Warrior Cats fandom is the cultural brainchild of the Anime and Furry communities. The Warrior Cats Fandom continues to persist, even after two decades, seemingly out of sheer artistic will. But, of course, the question remains as to why all of this happened, why does the possibility for these ideas to occur exist in the first place? The answer is simple, The perception of adolescents that such amalgamated fan-made media can be perceived as "mature" or even "edgy" is not one that has disappeared from our culture and probably never will. Cringe culture is dead.
#I'm supposed to be writing about how 'The Boxtrolls' is a digestible allegory for scapegoating and genocide.#BTW most of this is speculation#this is just me rambling about how the fandom only exists because it just so happened to co-exist-#-alongside other internet-defining communities.#dont treat this as a history book cuz the history of the internet is nearly impossible to document in full#blathering#crowfish crap#warrior cats#waca#wc#warriors#warriors erin hunter#erin hunter warriors#warriorcats#xenofiction#tlk#the lion king#amv#internet history#furry community#furry history#fandom history#fandom#favorites#wheeee!#tumblr please work with me here#thanks for coming to my ted talk#I almost exceeded the amount of characters I can put in a post so the ending is a tad bit rushed
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