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felassan really showed up in the solas memories like 'can't haunt the narrative if you ain't cute and intensely loveable' didn't he
#the fact that the dread wolf had a hotter more charming friend with better social skills next to him the whole time being lost to history...#a travesty. this is much funnier both for solas and for everything else going on#he's a nerd with an emotional support hotboi to do most of the interpersonal stuff and then he either killed him#or did something equally dumb and unforgivable to him. solas he's 70% of your impulse control what the fuck are you doing#you are so bad at talking to people if nothing else you need him so your personality won't alienate everyone you try to ally with#(deeply affectionate for the record solas is being sooooooo. himself in this game and it's infuriating but also inadvisably I love him)#dragon age#dragon age: the veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard spoilers#dragon age spoilers#felassan
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I am an enjoyer of Bizarre Furry Art 🫡
(This drawing is Not an endorsement of the actions/beliefs of the original artists btw‼️ I am simply goofin around)
#I think the og artists have done some unforgivable stuff and I don’t side with that#BUT ALSO this drawing isn’t me making fun of these art pieces either? it’s a secret third thing#there’s something abt this stuff that I love with little irony. bad earnest art is a real peak into the human psyche I thinsk#anyways ERM! making unrebloggable but hope u guys enjoy the silly drawings anyways.
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“I support women’s wrongs” you cannot even accept Nancy cheated on Steve and that adds to her arc and dynamism as a character. Let her be a messy 16/17 year old!!!
#she herself said at Murray’s she was dating Steve#and her cheating then in s2 is part of things she grows from#nancy wheeler#I for one think it’s interesting how she handles things and would like to see more.#also yeah cheating sucks but especially when she’s young and Going Through Things I do not think it is some unforgivable thing?#it’s bad!!! but it’s not something one is incapable of growing past.#stranger things#finda's rambles
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How does this keep happening
#Chip Chatter#I wouldn't go and say these are “bad” models#but like- besides Gregory's which is just kinda awkward- they really don't reflect their designs in their 2d art#Cassie especially... her skin tone is right(?) when not under lighting- but her hair is still unforgivable What The Fuck Man#I added a question mark cause like- when you color pick her textures it's right#but something about her model just makes her skin look slightly lighter compared to her 2d art anyway#Steel Wool is good at making models in general- great even!! But they really need to improve on the their human modeling and keeping#the model designs consistent to their art
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honestly when i tried to figure out why some fans are so mad at ivypool these days i was looking through avos and. the scene where ivypool apologises to twigpaw for not supporting sending a patrol for skyclan is genuinely very sweet??
i actually saw someone characterize this as "ivypool forcing twigpaw to forgive her". is it crack you smoke. is that what you smoke. you smoke crack?
#she apologises THREE SEPARATE TIMES#she acknowledges that dovewing and tigerheart's situation made her ignore twigpaw's feelings#she reassures twigpaw that this is the right thing for the clans. she tells her she's proud of her & tc is lucky to have her#you guys do understand that to apologise you have to Do Something Wrong?? or is that the part that's so unforgivable?#i am fASCINATED by the treatment of dove and ivy by the fans in recent years#i'm still pondering it but i think there are a few root causes#1) I think a lot of people read oots as kids and hated dove & identified with ivy because of the underdog storyline#maybe this fandom worship of dovewing is kinda part of that? wanting to feel like you've grown out of fandom misogyny?#but i also feel like 2) tigerdove has really increased dovewing's popularity#and i think because ivypool is so staunchly opposed to their relationship people then have to villainise ivypool#3) is maybe too spicy of a take but to be honest#i think people are subconsciously way more comfortable with a woman whose story ends in heterosexual marriage and childrearing#dovewing's mom role in TBC to shadowsight probably helped her popularity#so ivypool whose relationship w Fernsong & her kits is much less of a focus. and is mUCH less maternal#and who still exhibits Ugly Female Emotions like anger and hurt#and who God Forbid now holds a position of authority...#is too complicated to fit into :) she's such a good mom :) she's such a good mate#dovewing is easier to like because she tends to be a victim of circumstances (🤫 and often lacks agency in her storylines)#since ivypool regularly uses her agency to Fuck Up#fans revert to idealising dovewing because not only is she too good to do bad things. she also doesn't do Things in general#never mind that ivypool is the one who sacrifices and apologises#anyway <3 i think if i made a full analysis of ivy and dove post OOTS i would get too many spicy anons so i will cower in the tags
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The Khans - My Introspective
I don't like the Military and I don't support a lot of the actions the NCR does to the Mojave in New Vegas but in terms of the Khans I feel like the fandom infantilizes or diminishes the fact that they are or at least one of the most violent raider groups in the Mojave.
What happened at Bitter Springs was a tragedy, innocent lives were lost and the fact that the NCR swept it under the rug and continued to hunt down Khans that are truly trying to back down and resettle is horrendous, but there is a history to the NCR's aggression towards them.
The Khans first appear in Fallout 1, the main faction of raiders in the game besides the mentioned Vipers (who don't actually appear if I remember correctly). They came from Vault 15 along with the members that would form rival groups; The Vipers, The Jackals, and Shady Sands. They are a very large and foreboding raiding party, known for burning towns and encampments they attack and taking survivors as their slaves or slaves to sell. They are a big reason why the Jackals and Vipers are actually so small in New Vegas, they wiped them out.
Their main targets where Shady Sands and Junker town, the former of the two would be what became The New California Republic. This explains a big part of their animosity towards the Khans, only furthered by the fact the Khans kidnapped Tandi as a young girl, the girl that would go to offically found the NCR out of Shady Sands. When the dweller saved her and killed much of the Khans, this allowed the NCR to develop into what it currently is as they no longer needed to focus on fighting off constant raids.
When the Khans became the New Khans in Fallout 2, they barely resembled the Khans as they were led by Darion, Garl Death-Hand's son (former leader of the Khans). They were smaller and refortified vault 15, still planning to take down the NCR (at this time nowhere near as imperialist as they are in FNV) as mostly a revenge/power ploy. They manipulate The Squat, a group of y'know squatters, that lived in the upper levels, promising and lying about repairing the vault and offering them ransacked caravan resources if they kept the NCR away. Being their only life line The Squat had no choice. Still the chosen one got rid of them and they left New California for the untapped Mojave.
The Great Khans, the most current iteration, continued in the path as the original Khans, regrouping and gaining information from the Followers who hoped they'd use their new medical knowledge to heal themselves. They gained more members and a substantial part of Vegas territory before they were run out by the three families. They were pushed to Bitter Springs where they first and foremost continued to pick off and attack NCR settlements, most of which consisted of caravans, towns, and camps as they saw them as easy like in their old days. It was the killing of four influential Republic members (non-military) that brought on Bitter Springs.
Bitter Springs was the result of years of hatred and animosity and likely the goal to send a final message to the Khans. It does not excuse the fact that innocent men, women, and children were slaughtered with few survivors. It does not excuse the fact that the NCR has yet to make amends for this and continues to try and persecute the Khans even in moments of surrender.
This post is not to defend what happened but to give a quick rundown of the Khan's history and their history with the NCR. It's to remind people that the NCR is not just their military power but an actual group/settlement of people that were also attacked indiscriminately by the Khans. It's to point out that the Khans were not a band of indigenous people (no matter the comparisons) driven from their homes but raiders who fed into the brutal cultures of the west coast wasteland and were in turn treated to the same things.
My frustration comes from the fact that FNV has so many comparisons to indigenous struggles but the groups it chooses are not comparable at all. Their oppression hinges on not being familiar with their past, which explains why they have the reputation they do in canon. The "tribes" are often not even groups of minorities or have goals/desires out of acquisitions of power and I feel like it is important to both acknowledge that this is bad indigenous rep because it is not supposed to be. It is supposed to be a comparison of the in-game groups and how they all do the same things and justify it in their own fucked up ways, some better at it than others.
FNV of all the Fallout games (in light of it being heavily Western based) distastefully uses indigenous imagery and theming for groups that are sad mimicries of American indigenous cultures at best and outright offensive at worst.
#this is also to say the NCR is barely different but they imply New California is a city and safe and that once the NCR military leaves#they will properly try to settle and revitalize the area unlike the goals of almost every other group#the issues arise from the tensions of the hoover dam battles the legion and the corrupt leaders chosen in what is a terse time#but the khans are interesting to me and I like the named khans we have in FNV but they are treated to be almost innocent at points due to#all the Ls they keep taking despite admitting to their raider roots and being PROUD#they partnered with the Legion and before i hear they didnt know they were slavers at a point too and likely didnt care if they believed it#would not affec their own. the Mojave is an unforgivnig place and sometimes you make unforgivable alliances since they alienated all their#other options through their continued and consistent behaviors#like i could go on how bad the native rep is but I would not use any of the tribes cause they barely count the only difference from the NCR#is they organize themself differtently like id use the tribes in Honest Hearts cause holy shit is it bad and racist like at least the Mojav#tribes are just white dickheads brutalizing each other and not the characatures of native people the Sorrows Dead Horse and White legs are#like yikes I hated playing white savior the dlc#this is also semi personal because i dont see a lot of POC people in the fandom talking about the Khans and so I dont know if the proper#perspectives can be added because just because something can represent a culture or group doesn't mean it does or that it was the primary#thing they were trying to get across#like feel free to ask and talk to me more about it cause grrr#fallout#fallout new vegas#the great khans#the khans#new california republic#the ncr#fallout 1#fallout 2#papa khan
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why does it feel like the only options anymore are babygirl ed teach into oblivion and pretend like he never did anything bad, or make him the worst person on the fucking planet and incapable of doing anything to earn any forgiveness (not that he even tries)
#im just. frustrated i guess#i see posts calling him an innocent princess and acting as though everyone deserved what he did#(and by everyone i mean izzy because they forget literally anyone else was hurt by him)#and i also see things where they make him just. everything the legends say he was and unforgivable to the point even stede turns his#back on him#i think we should acknowledge ed did a hell of a lot of bad things to people for no reason (and im not talking about the regular ol piracy)#while also giving him the chance to apologise and grow and do better in the future#(and it upsets me to no end that the show couldnt even do that for him. they acted like it was one and done)#i think theres interest in exploring the nuance of what ed did and whether he can be forgiven by the characters#whether they even should forgive him either#but im not ever seeing pieces like that. nobody seems to be doing the nuance any more. its just all in one way or the other#maybe im fucking wrong for finding sympathy in his character while not excusing his actions#maybe its wrong to think that he should have to work for forgiveness but that he deserves the chance to do that#but i like to think there's a world out there where he builds something new with the crew. its different. but its something#he deserves the chance to try at least#nyxtalks#ofmd
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Me: the acolyte is kind of giving me twitches (in space) vibes but the comparison could be superficial idk…
The Acolyte: The Twins… They Are Witches
#and more or less princesses. one is goth the other likes to draw#one really really likes fire. the other does not#I don’t think it’s like. overt unforgivable similarities it’s just kind of funny#same time it is like. wow I should stop watching this and watch twitches instead#something about the acolyte isn’t working for me. the lore expansion is interesting but there’s a lot of it.#the fan discourse about the Jedi being ontologically evil or infallible paragons of virtue is unbearable#(especially since it kind of seems like they’re just going for something vague about all their knock off space religions being kind of bad#it seems like sexism is one of the themes but like. I don’t think Star Wars has every really meaningfully interrogated the blatant sexism#that exists in and out of universe. seems odd to start talking about it now ngl#Star Wars#the acolyte spoilers
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i think a lot of people have never been in a truly desperate situation but think they have, and this causes them to pass really harsh judgment on people who made bad choices when either irrational or having no good choices to pick instead, and i really wish people could get some fucking self-perception and work on their compassion skills and not fucking do that as much anymore
#jack facts#people be banging on about empathy this empathy that#and like sure maybe people have a measurable capacity for it but i can tell you what#that sure as fuck don't mean any fucking one of them ever bothers to make use of it when it matters lol#and i mean on the other hand it's hard to conceptualize how you would feel going through something you've never experienced before#i just wish people would be AWARE of the fact they don't know!#or like that there's a difference between ''i can't afford anything but instant ramen'' and ''i can't get any food or water''#or a difference between being freaked out by spiders and having clinical arachnophobia#or a difference between ''my loved one is sick and i'm really worried about them'' and ''my loved one is dying in front of me''#etc etc etc etc etc#anyway the longer i live the more i'm convinced that empathy is a garbage concept#and actually a more reliable way to act with true compassion is through at least some capacity for relative objectivity#the ability to say ''i don't know how that feels and i cannot understand it through comparison'' and to be able AND WILLING#to take people's self reports on their feelings thought processes or lackthereof in good faith and with sympathy#and also the ability to acknowledge that doing a bad thing for good reasons does not negate the bad thing being bad#but also should and does change what consequences are appropriate and/or most effective#and also like............... things people do in desperation or other irrational states do not represent Who They Are As A Person#or what it's like to hang out with them in a day to day situation#another thing i keep getting more and more aware of is like. if y'all can't even handle an irrational or impulsive choice that does harm#done by an otherwise ''good'' person under short term desperate situations#that they then do their best to reduce the harm of after the situation is over#i can not even imagine how absolutely unforgiving you must be of anyone who has delusions#and i mean real delusions and real psychosis not the hyperbolic babytalk version lol#like i don't think most of you even know what the fuck a delusion even is the way you act about things as simple & straightforward as like#fear. hunger. pain.#absolutely fucking exhausting
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Black and white thinking my beloathed
#gerard's diary#hits myself w a newspaper. not everything is inheritly good or inheritly bad#a few people saying neg things Abt one aspect of something doesnt make it unforgivable
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Something that's quite strange to me as a danmei fan is how angry people get about people liking "bad characters" who do problematic things when.... that's part of the appeal of a lot of web novels for me? Like, yes, this character committed an unforgivable sin or did something terrible, but they still have to exist. They still have to put one foot in front of the other, and possibly more importantly, they're more than the bad thing they did. They do more than that bad thing. These are "real people" who make real mistakes, but they have to keep living anyway - those kind of stories are my favorite, and I would rather have an interesting problematic character than a boring good one.
#not a quote#like. people irl do unforgiveable things. and they can grow from it#and characters being 'bad' (or justifiably open to criticism) is something a lot of media is almost afraid of?#and like. they don't grow overnight bc no one does. they may not even admit they're wrong even when they realize they are#but the characters feel real because they have flaws. they're messy. they're confusing.#my posts#danmei#idk it's almost healing when a character does smth bad and isn’t guilty or is at least ALLOWED to be bad/have done bad things#bc humans aren't without flaws. and small things can feel unforgiveable when YOU do them.#so comparing it to a character who has done smth terrible and is still unharmed & usually loved is... good? idk#anyway I said danmei bc I see it most there (fans esp) but dpa does have some GREAT arcs in-book with this as well#discourse
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if you hate jayce talis i'm sorry but i will perceive you as a person devoid of media literacy
#i'm so sorry jayce you were chosen to be the scapegoat of arcane#all of the characters said shitty things all of them made questionable choices but he's the unforgivable one oh sure#how can you hate jayce for doing something bad and then go on to praise and love jinx. like. ok. that's funny#like. they hate him for sleeping with mel like he KNEW that viktor was almost dying at the same time??!?!?!?#yeah i'm sure that was his evil plan all along i'll have sex while knowing that my best friend is dying in the other room#i'm not saying that people aren't allowed to dislike a character. no. that's perfectly normal#but the jayce hate is Absurd. it became a mindless trend and it's so fucking weird and waaaaay out of proportion#y'all wouldn't last a day with jayce giopara the true babygirl
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fandom people are so funny. "undeserved redemption". you are so catholiccore
#our post comrade.#i think some of these guys deadass think when you do something really bad you should fall off a cliff like a disney villian#sorry to say it does not work that irl. you just have to keep living your unforgivable life
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People need to practice minding their own damn business
Don't come into people's inboxes giving unsolicited advice or criticizing their personal stuff. Don't reblog somebody's posts saying how much you hate it and their opinions.
Don't like somebody's characterisation, AUs or the kind of art they post? It might even annoy you?
Okay, cool. Go make your own post. Block them. Be a little hater about it to your friends. It's good for your soul!
But don't be goddamn rude to people. Don't make it their problem.
"I don't like what this artist likes mah mah mah"
Here's a wild idea;
Artists...don't need to cater to you. You are not entitles to their work. Nobody on the internet should coddle you and post only stuff you like.
Shocker, I know.
#thylacines can talk#Yes this is about PK#When you like an antagonist people expect you to be a negative nancy 24/7 and put a disclaimer everytime you make something with them about#how much they suck as a person#Guess what! Having to shittalk your fave all the time to not risk being 'that kind of fan'...isnt fun. It's miserable even!#Anmoying as fuck too! Yes I know he did this unforgivable thing. I'm not an idiot. That's why I like PK. Fucker's got nuance#Is he a bad person? Absolutely. Will I talk about him being a bad person and the horrible things he did? Also yes. When I want to. It's#very fun to explore that part of the story and how it influenced their victims. Will I give you a fucking essay on why he's a bad person#everytime I want to post something funny or lighthearted about him? No. Piss off.#I cannot only focus on angst and heart-wrenching part of the story. I also like to make stuff of the lighthearted parts of my AUs.#And I don't feel like writing down an entire disclaimer and breakdown of how PK's and WL's redemption arcs went to justify it#Having to constantly put disclaimers to justify you liking a morally grey and bad characters is EXHAUSTING. Only being able to talk about#this character with someone when it proteins to how awful they are is EXHAUSTING.#YES they're bad people. But going into peoples dms or inbox or tags and talking to them about how ugly and bad and evil their fave is#exhausting to deal with and NOT fun. Like I. KNOW. LIKE LET ME LIKE A DEEPLY FLAWED NUANCED FUCKED UP CHARACTER IN PEACE WITHOUT HAVING TO#ALWAYS PUT A DISCLAIMER OUT THERE ABOUT HOW AWFUL THEY ARE. GOOD GOD.#It's especially annoying because I like characterisation of PK that is very morally grey. To me purely evil and not compassionate PK is#fun...in a short run. I much prefer a man whos riddled with guilt over what he did even if he believed it to be necessary evil and who dies#Because of his regret. I love the idea of a father who sacrificed his own children so that no parent had to lose their own. And the tragedy#of him deeply loving PV and still doing what he did. A good person who was faced with an impossible choice and committed unspeakable#cruelty for what he believed to be the greater good. A man who doesnt believe he's deserving of redemption not forgiveness and who doomed#himself. I like a nuanced morally grey PK with LAYERS. Treating him as a purely evil uncaring person who never loved his children sucks ALL#the fun out of him for me. And don't get me wrong I LOVE villains who are evil for evil's sake. I LOVE old school Disney villains who are#scumbags just because they can be and have a little bit a swag to it. But PK just. Isn't that kind of villain to me.#I don't even like calling him a villain. An antagonist? Maybe. A morally grey character that kicked off the entire story with his one act#of unspeakable cruelty? Yup. But I don't see him as the villain of HK.#Wow that was a long rant#Well I got that out of my system at least#I love the Pale King and I could talk for HOURS about why I love him as a character and about his actions. It's just tiring when I have to#do it to justify myself and my lighthearted content of him.
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unironically the years it would take slowy building any sort third of third party majority would probably still be a quicker path to change than the stern looks and 'pressure', whatever the fuck people even mean by that, you throw at the democrats while still voting for them
#of course that would be bad bc in the meantime we might get the evil orange man in office again#and he might do something even more unforgivable than biden. like outwardly saying he doesn't like gay people or something#god. i am so fucking tired#ree talks
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prev post is sort-of the thesis of very good webcomic “what happens next” which you should read right now although do very much pay attention to the content warnings. thank you
#i read the whole thing in like 3 hours the other day and i keep thinking abt it#i mean its not over its still updating. btw#but anyway its very interesting to like…..#look at the comments and see people doing pretty much the stuff that the comic is criticizing/is The Point of it#its not black and white! no one is Terrible And Unforgivable bc they did something bad and are still not handling it Perfectly#and there are Sympathetic Things even about people who are Doing Harm Right Now#and its easy to say ‘i simply would not do that thing rip to them but im different’#but you have the rationality of not actually Being In The Situation!#would you REALLY be an exemplary human being when forced to make choices under incredible amounts of stress? NO!#idk its. its very interesting! more people should read it! and talk about it! BUT IT GETS FUCKING HEAVY.#basilposting
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