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The more I think about it, the more I question Arcane S2's politics and themes, which were so foundational to S1. Like, a tiny example [SPOILERS AHEAD]:
Singed wins. He gets exactly what he wants in the end. All his "efforts" are rewarded. What does that say about people who share his ideology of eugenics? He is the source of nearly every horrible thing and conflict that happened (Shimmer, the factory deaths, Jinx, Vander as Warwick, the corruption of Viktor), and he gets a happier ending than any other character. Not even a 'he got what he wanted but he has become completely unrecognizable/monstrous to his daughter' tag at the end. You can say they're setting him up and need to open his daughter to future shows, but the way you end a character's story says something about what you think about that character. What does it say when the eugenicist war criminal gets the happy ending he doesn't deserve?
#personal#delete later#and you can say “it's not that deep it's just what makes sense to end his character” but lets not kid ourselves#this past month people have been chattering about microexpressions in animation or metaphors and symbolism in interactions#and random props and set details. the end of a character's arc MEANS something thematically.#and it just feels offputting that the most unforgivable character wins while everyone else is dead or suffers alone#and don't give me that “sometimes the bad guy wins” look this is an extreme lol.#i would be fine with this outcome for singed if literally EVERY other character wasn't suffering. only singed got what he wanted#honestly fans who have been completely unwilling to consider negative analysis and criticisms of arcane annoy me so much#y'all chirp about how amazing it is that arcane is so political until the politics get weird. then it's a completely apolitical show#specifically the final “dirt under you fingernails” line. that felt so weird and offputting coming from vi#a part of this is definitely just reactionary anger at a fictional character. like. you caused untold amounts of suffering and agony#all for your daughter. fuck you you don't get your daughter
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It's wild to me that I had heard of the prime Kirk/Spock content in various TOS episodes long before I saw them, but had never heard of what IMO is the shippiest moment of all thus far, in an interestingly O_o goddamn I do not want whatever you two have but you do you?? holy shit though what a moment way.
I'm of course referring to the otherwise rather mid episode "Requiem for Methuselah," in which Kirk has an underwritten love affair with a clueless woman whose various secrets have to be discovered before her inevitable death.
At one point in this relationship, her.......uh, guardian??? sort of???????? had Spock play the piano while she and Kirk waltzed, which (in-story) Spock did perfectly while somehow managing to silently exude even more intensity than usual. After the plot (and her life) were over, we end not with the usual cheerful bit of snark on the bridge that ends most episodes, but with a weary Kirk falling asleep with his head on his arms and Spock hovering not for away. McCoy exposits the last bit of detail and then goes on an unprompted and honestly pretty viciously racist speech about how Spock, unlike Kirk, will never suffer from the joys and travails of love because of his inherent lack of feeling as a Vulcan. The speech is longer than usual and just really mean-spirited as McCoy waxes rhapsodic about all the aspects of passionate true love that Spock will not and cannot experience as a Vulcan before he just leaves.
Spock then turns to look at Kirk, and now just bleeding intensity, takes a few slow, deliberate steps towards the sleeping Kirk, lays his hand against Kirk's cheek and neck, and then very obviously mind melds with the sleeping Kirk while murmuring, "Forget."
Is this healthy respectful behavior that honors Kirk's autonomy? No, obviously. Is it god-tier repressed homoerotic passion between two people who should probably just work their issues out and stop inflicting themselves on anyone else? Yes.
#there are a lot of oddly paced slow physical staging bits in the episode so at first i wasn't sure it was significant that spock is so slow#in his approach to kirk at the end - coming right off the mccoy speech about passionate love it was something else#but i wasn't sure what he was even going to do until he laid his hand against kirk's face and i was just thinking wait WHAT#and then the - wait is he MIND MELDING with SLEEPING KIRK as a response to the accusation that he is racially incapable of passionate love?#and then realized that this episode - in which he admits to one feeling ('envy') culminates in him wiping his rival from kirk's memory#jesus. what the fuck. i'm sorry if i ever thought the kirk/spock fangirls of the last decades were exaggerating#blandly healthy and supportive spirk is out toxic yaoi spirk is in#(also there's a bad episode in which shatner is forced to give a godawful ramble about losing command! i'm losing command!#and kirk is just melting down as he and spock get into an elevator and it's just going up floors as kirk loses his shit#and it would just be unforgivably awful but his fixation on losing authority of his beloved enterprise is stopped by one word from spock#spock literally murmurs 'jim' and kirk just sort of collapses on him and then immediately relaxes and calms down. wild shit)#anghraine babbles#star trek#star trek: the original series#long post#spock#james t kirk#kirk x spock#mccoy critical#i actually love him in most episodes but this was awful and out of nowhere#in terms of the stakes at that point. but the fact that it's this huge rhapsodic speech about the grand passion of LOOOOOVE#not only talking positively but also about the torments of love that spock allegedly can't feel#and it leads /directly/ into spock wiping this woman from kirk's memory????? well. i am not blind to the function it serves. let's say.
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i know sorrow's quote was in referral to blue but i feel like it could also be applied to leaf/green herself and abandon lonliness: i am's new ending from a meta standpoint if you think abt it hard enough……….
i mean. did we not see OP try to rewrite history in order to prevent the tragedy of lonliness and leaf rotting in hell? do we dare to forget - to erase what she did to lonliness? can she be forgiven now that it never happened in the first place...?
#pokepasta#pokemon creepypasta#abandon lonliness#tbh this fanart was also my way of expressing that while i DID like the new happy ending-#-there's always going to be a part of me that's more fond of the original tragedy abandon lonliness presented-#where an otherwise 'good' girl is tricked into doing something unforgivable by someone she trusted and was forced to suffer for his mistake#it showed how manipulative blue could be by tricking leaf into doing his dirty work so he wouldn't suffer the consequences-#-of killing lonliness himself. as opposed to him just killing lonliness and green himself bc he's the clear 'bad guy' of the story.#i like stories where otherwise 'good' people are driven to do bad things just to save themselves-#-and it seemed like leaf abandoned and killed lonliness bc she felt like he wasn't worth the hauntings she was suffering from.#she's a much more compelling character in the OG for that reason despite never having a line of dialogue in it.#i also just like when girls commit crimes and aren't morally pure n innocent and it's sad to see that aspect of leaf/green be lost in AL:IA#that's not to say i DISLIKE the direction her character took in AL:IA- i just don't believe AL:IA should replace the original.#they're two entirely different stories being told but two sides of the same coin.#leaf is who green would be if green cracked under the pressure and took her fear out on the wrong enemy.#green is who leaf would be if leaf decided to persevere through the hauntings and choose to love lonliness despite it.#to me neither ending is 'better' than the other. it's all a matter of if you like good endings or bad ones in your horror story-#-and unfortunately i lean towards the latter ahaha...
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felassan really showed up in the solas memories like 'can't haunt the narrative if you ain't cute and intensely loveable' didn't he
#the fact that the dread wolf had a hotter more charming friend with better social skills next to him the whole time being lost to history...#a travesty. this is much funnier both for solas and for everything else going on#he's a nerd with an emotional support hotboi to do most of the interpersonal stuff and then he either killed him#or did something equally dumb and unforgivable to him. solas he's 70% of your impulse control what the fuck are you doing#you are so bad at talking to people if nothing else you need him so your personality won't alienate everyone you try to ally with#(deeply affectionate for the record solas is being sooooooo. himself in this game and it's infuriating but also inadvisably I love him)#dragon age#dragon age: the veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard spoilers#dragon age spoilers#felassan
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I am an enjoyer of Bizarre Furry Art 🫡
(This drawing is Not an endorsement of the actions/beliefs of the original artists btw‼️ I am simply goofin around)
#I think the og artists have done some unforgivable stuff and I don’t side with that#BUT ALSO this drawing isn’t me making fun of these art pieces either? it’s a secret third thing#there’s something abt this stuff that I love with little irony. bad earnest art is a real peak into the human psyche I thinsk#anyways ERM! making unrebloggable but hope u guys enjoy the silly drawings anyways.
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listen I just can’t find fault with a candy person for finding something that unexpectedly brings them joy and doing everything in their power to make it keep happening. I just can’t find it in me to blame them for wanting the approval of the person they love and respect more than anyone else, and wanting that approval over and over again, and I just straight up can’t blame james for figuring out a trick to make his princess smile and call him her hero. like, banana guards get her praise and approval and hugs all the time, but he’s just some random engineer with an easy smile and no one who wants to hang out with him after work. and she likes him so much, she wants him in her kingdom, even when he goes and does something stupid like push her out of the way of a super dangerous not-moving car, at the cost of his own life, she wants him back and she’ll bring him back and she'll tell him that was very brave and she loves him. of course she loves him. she loves all the candy people. but he figured out how to make her look him in the eyes and say it and give him material evidence of her pride. I can’t find it in myself to blame him for that. it wasn't good, i don't think he should have been left unchecked to keep going forever, but i can't blame him for wanting to keep reliving the nice thing that happened once. the really nice thing that happened once that came with material gifts. if she didn’t want to keep doing it she would’ve stopped LONG before there were TWENTY FIVE of them. before she was so fed up that she didn’t even spare him a kind goodbye or a chance to go home one more time.
like you’re not beating the dystopian dictatorship allegations. saying she was right to exile him from the only home he’s ever known with no recourse because he was acting weird. and the thing is, I just can’t find it in me to blame a character living in a dictatorship for getting himself into a situation because he was desperately trying to be happy the best way he could figure out how. I’m not saying he was right, he’s insane, but it just rubs me wrong, the idea that he is the one holding all this heavy blame. the idea that the princess is right to look down at him and shake her head firmly and turn him out in the cold. for chasing the rush that she gave him willingly, over and over, without any specific end parameters. for not being able to make friends, and doing something weird about it. he’s bored and lonely and this works and it’s not, inherently, bad. it really isn’t. it’s batshit, but it’s actually not hurting anyone at all.
#in case im not being clear. because i dont know. this is about james adventuretime.#and like. he is literally no weirder than any other candy person#i cant justify this freak (affectionate) but i also simply cannot blame him for this. imagine youre a guy in the Happy All The Time kingdom#and its goofyhappy but youre bone-numbingly bored and lonely and no one will hang out with you. youre 30 something.#wouldnt it be nice if you just had some people who Get you. well. enter This One Weird Trick. with a side of Princess Calls You A Hero.#like mann id do it all the time too dude. i dont see why pb can withhold her grace+forgiveness for checks notes. him being a lonely weirdo#who freaked out (HE DIED. HORRIFICALLY. UNEXPECTEDLY.) and found a way to ask her for friends indirectly.#is it wrong to be a weird little candy guy living in a dictatorship trying your best#like come on. sure hes not DOING RIGHT. it was WEIRD! but i CANT FIND IT IN MYSELF to BLAME HIM. that's what im here to say.#i will never find fault with him for literally just tricking her into making clones of himself so hed have friends to eat with in his home#im not sorry i mildly enjoy character on tv. candy people no.1 defender.#o#he doesnt seem to need much. like. its not like he was this extravagant strain on resources. if he was she would have noticed#ok ill stop. for now. might be back. i had a HORRIFIC discord rant#and? if he really had been dying? we wouldnt be having this conversation. we'd be saying man that is tragic. get him therapy.#but instead we are talking about whether he should APOLOGIZE for taking up space in his own tiny apartment tht he decided to share.#thats what annoyed me. among other thigns. but that bit. that she has a nebulous apology waiting for her and neednt accept#thats. insane. what did he do. not die. fake save her life. not realize heroism can branch out to other folks besides his princess.#bad things but not Obviously Unforgivable things that deserved EXILE!#adventure time#for my own search purpose just in case. I think that’s low enough in tags it won’t go into main tag.maybe not. whatever
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Me: I'm going to become a better person 🤗
Also me when I see someone mischaracterize and then hate on my favorite character:

#STOP MAKING UP REASONS TO HATE MARINETTE!!!!#SHE ISN'T A MARY-SUE!! SHE ISN'T A STALKER!! SHE ISN'T A BAD PERSON!!! SHE ISN'T AN ABUSER!!#SHE ISN'T RACIST!!! SHE ISN'T A PICK-ME!!! SHE ISN'T SEXIST!! SHE ISN'T UNFORGIVING!!!#SHE GAVE CHLOÉ MULTIPLE CHANCES AND CONTINUES TO GIVE HER CHANCES TO BE BETTER!!!#SHE GAVE LILA MULTIPLE CHANCES TO BE BETTER AND FELT FUCKING AWFUL FOR INSULTING HER AT THE FOUNTAIN!!!#SHE FORGAVE KIM FOR HIS BULLYING AND WAS ABLE TO KEEP THEIR FRIENDSHIP STRONG!!!#HER BEING ANGRY ABOUT BEING PUBLICLY SHIPPED WITH HER COWORKER MAKES SENSE!!!#HER BEING LOVED BY HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY MAKES SENSE!!!#HER HAVING LOTS OF LOVE INTERESTS MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU REMEMBER THAT SHE IS NICE PRETTY AND CARING!!!!#SHE APOLOGIZED AND MADE UP WITH KAGAMI AND NOW THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS!!!!#SHE WATCHES FHE FUCKING WORLD END BECAUSE OF HER LOVE FOR ADRIEN OF FUCKING COURSE SHE'S SCARED TO CONFESS TO HIM!!#OF FUCKING COURSE SHE'S SCARED TO TELL CHAT NOIR ANYTHING!!!#SHE WAS LITERALLY MANIPULATED BY THE MAIN FUCKING ANTAGONIST TO LIE TO THE WORLD ABOUT HIM!!!#MARINETTE DESERVES BETTER!!!!!#YOU MADE THAT SHIT UP ABOUT HER BECAUSE YOU NEED SOMETHING TO HATE SO BADLY!!#AND ALSO THAT CREEPY PICTURE OF HER THAT PEOPLE USE IN THEIR THUMBNAILS TO SHOW HOW CREEPY SHE IS 1.#2.IS FROM GHE EPISODE WHERE JAGGED STONE ASKS HER TO MAKE A ALBUM ART FOR HIM AND IT STRESSES HER THE FUCK OUT!!#SHE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING BAD IN THAT EPISODE!!! STOP FUCKING USING THAT GOD DAMN IMAGE AND SLANDERING HER!!!
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Going to be so real with you all and say that if I told my partner who I was not really in love with that I was thinking of leaving them and they responded by asking me to "please hold me until I fall asleep" I'd be tempted to go cheat on them too. Tashi Duncan might have been toxic but girl I get you‼️‼️
#now im not going to project but for MEEE it's like. okay i just said something horrible and unforgivable to you -#- and you're going to crawl into my arms anyway? that's like. the worst response#& i want you to understand that i am being bad. i am being cruel. if this cruelty wasn't enough i'll do smth worse#also in tashi's situation i can understand wanted to sleep with someone who DOES know you're a piece of shit#challengers#to be 100% clear i have never cheated on a partner and i hope i never will#but i understand the temptation.
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man. whenever i see someone discussing it/talking about liking it i feel myself Wanting to like. respect? extreme horror as a genre. more than i do. and i think my problem boils down to like. some of the places these things go.. you need to be a damn good writer, and you kinda need to make it have a Point or a Reason at least somewhat. you gotta be able to suspend your disbelief. that doesn't go any different for any flavor of horror than any other type of nonfiction writing tbh and in my opinion is generally harder to pull off. what happens does, in context, need to at least kinda sorta make a little bit of sense in some way and not be happening Just Because. and because of the rarity and stigma of extreme horror its less likely to qualify well for either of the above and just ends up attracting people who want to write some Really out there shit and get upset when they get justified critique from readers (usually people who bought their book and Enjoy extreme horror!) and always want to couch it like they're being oppressed for Writing which is a super disingenuous way to put it
#crow.txt#like i dont even find the genre unsalvageable or unforgivable#i havent ever come across anything i think i could read myself. just the things ive heard people talk about have been genuinely nauseating#but with some stuff and especially with some authors theres a pattern and a point at which its. very.#ok we get it you genuinely just wrote this to be edgy and complain when people dont agree completely with all your choices#its a really fine line but making it too off the wall/ridiculous/gross is just. so. wild to me. happens frequently.#extreme horror fans dont even seem to like it!#i was looking into summaries of a book called woom bc its the first thing thats hoved into my field of view in a while#and increasingly the more i found out abt im just sitting here like. ok why. what. this is like looney tunes if it was violent and gross#on purpose#the idea of these things happening individually is crazy. together its just kinda dumb and gross#seeing even one person say they felt like. connected to the characters is so wild to me bc it does not appear theres much. like. substance#+ feeling connected but not enough to want to read the sequel to see what happens is pretty telling lmao#you cant have extreme horror with No edgy shit but like. idk. its kinda clear when something has a Point and when something is shock value#hyperspecific genre doesnt make things more appealing to read or. like. easier to work into a plot if you don't have that skill#there almost seems to be an aspect of 'haha i tricked you into reading This gross shit' that is so hard to vibe with.#but mainly one author comes to mind#very difficult genre in general for many reasons but especially worse if you don't even have the backbone and self awareness to like#acknowledge it isn't for most people and like. act accordingly. ie when someone bitching about it online in public Just Shut Up#good advice for anyone that writes but like goddamn. authors here seem extra touchy sometimes. which feels weird bc you know what you wrote#like for reference ive read borrasca and think it was a really really good and grounded story. fucked up! extremely! it is ROUGH#and hard to recommend. for quite a few reasons. but like. i like to think i know what I'm talking abt at least a little#i wouldn't even consider it extreme horror but id argue it absolutely has elements. kinda a lot of em. especially if you count the followup#it takes a little too long to Get There and doesn't like. Sit In It. too heavily. the bad part is done pretty tastefully for what it is imo#and that is truly only because a very deep level of thought went into like. every aspect of it#you can tell when something has been carefully considered and crafted vs building the plane under them as it flew
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secondhand knowledge of anything historical is soooooo embarrasing like oh youve heard of caelius from-our-worksheets? who is he? and i have to be like Well uhmmmmm he wants to fuck that old man i think..
#home cooked hijinks#UNFORGIVABLE…#i need to read more books and articles. i yam so busy rn but i need to this is horrible#justan example btw. no caelius mentions in class yet sadlyyyy#one time i was gonna say something soso smart an clever#n then i accidentally said that augustus and agrippa were married bcos i forgor whos daughter married who#really stupid. also freudian slip probably. its not my fault that my memory is bad and i like to yap
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i think a lot of people have never been in a truly desperate situation but think they have, and this causes them to pass really harsh judgment on people who made bad choices when either irrational or having no good choices to pick instead, and i really wish people could get some fucking self-perception and work on their compassion skills and not fucking do that as much anymore
#jack facts#people be banging on about empathy this empathy that#and like sure maybe people have a measurable capacity for it but i can tell you what#that sure as fuck don't mean any fucking one of them ever bothers to make use of it when it matters lol#and i mean on the other hand it's hard to conceptualize how you would feel going through something you've never experienced before#i just wish people would be AWARE of the fact they don't know!#or like that there's a difference between ''i can't afford anything but instant ramen'' and ''i can't get any food or water''#or a difference between being freaked out by spiders and having clinical arachnophobia#or a difference between ''my loved one is sick and i'm really worried about them'' and ''my loved one is dying in front of me''#etc etc etc etc etc#anyway the longer i live the more i'm convinced that empathy is a garbage concept#and actually a more reliable way to act with true compassion is through at least some capacity for relative objectivity#the ability to say ''i don't know how that feels and i cannot understand it through comparison'' and to be able AND WILLING#to take people's self reports on their feelings thought processes or lackthereof in good faith and with sympathy#and also the ability to acknowledge that doing a bad thing for good reasons does not negate the bad thing being bad#but also should and does change what consequences are appropriate and/or most effective#and also like............... things people do in desperation or other irrational states do not represent Who They Are As A Person#or what it's like to hang out with them in a day to day situation#another thing i keep getting more and more aware of is like. if y'all can't even handle an irrational or impulsive choice that does harm#done by an otherwise ''good'' person under short term desperate situations#that they then do their best to reduce the harm of after the situation is over#i can not even imagine how absolutely unforgiving you must be of anyone who has delusions#and i mean real delusions and real psychosis not the hyperbolic babytalk version lol#like i don't think most of you even know what the fuck a delusion even is the way you act about things as simple & straightforward as like#fear. hunger. pain.#absolutely fucking exhausting
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I hate the fact that the only reason I care about my life and self is cause of about two people..
Just, feels sad
#vent#vent tw#vent cw#I'm fine I promise#just a thought..#And I do care about what people think of me rn#Esp after shit I regret doing#But I also had a reason to do something yeah#But at the same time the other person made it seem unforgivable#I feel like I was so much full of life before..#.. Posted almost every day or so until I stopped#I didn't have a reason to stop.. Or did I#Honestly I don't know#I don't know anyway#I hate being asked a question about me I can't answer myself#I hate when I rely on others to tell me what I am like#I hate it so much..#And when people say they don't see anything bad in me? Makes it worse#I hate when people don't tell me what they want me to do#Sure sometimes I'll forget but damn would it be nicer#cough cough my bad#just wanted to get this off of my chest#honestly it maybe wont
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Something that's quite strange to me as a danmei fan is how angry people get about people liking "bad characters" who do problematic things when.... that's part of the appeal of a lot of web novels for me? Like, yes, this character committed an unforgivable sin or did something terrible, but they still have to exist. They still have to put one foot in front of the other, and possibly more importantly, they're more than the bad thing they did. They do more than that bad thing. These are "real people" who make real mistakes, but they have to keep living anyway - those kind of stories are my favorite, and I would rather have an interesting problematic character than a boring good one.
#not a quote#like. people irl do unforgiveable things. and they can grow from it#and characters being 'bad' (or justifiably open to criticism) is something a lot of media is almost afraid of?#and like. they don't grow overnight bc no one does. they may not even admit they're wrong even when they realize they are#but the characters feel real because they have flaws. they're messy. they're confusing.#my posts#danmei#idk it's almost healing when a character does smth bad and isn’t guilty or is at least ALLOWED to be bad/have done bad things#bc humans aren't without flaws. and small things can feel unforgiveable when YOU do them.#so comparing it to a character who has done smth terrible and is still unharmed & usually loved is... good? idk#anyway I said danmei bc I see it most there (fans esp) but dpa does have some GREAT arcs in-book with this as well#discourse
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unironically the years it would take slowy building any sort third of third party majority would probably still be a quicker path to change than the stern looks and 'pressure', whatever the fuck people even mean by that, you throw at the democrats while still voting for them
#of course that would be bad bc in the meantime we might get the evil orange man in office again#and he might do something even more unforgivable than biden. like outwardly saying he doesn't like gay people or something#god. i am so fucking tired#ree talks
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prev post is sort-of the thesis of very good webcomic “what happens next” which you should read right now although do very much pay attention to the content warnings. thank you
#i read the whole thing in like 3 hours the other day and i keep thinking abt it#i mean its not over its still updating. btw#but anyway its very interesting to like…..#look at the comments and see people doing pretty much the stuff that the comic is criticizing/is The Point of it#its not black and white! no one is Terrible And Unforgivable bc they did something bad and are still not handling it Perfectly#and there are Sympathetic Things even about people who are Doing Harm Right Now#and its easy to say ‘i simply would not do that thing rip to them but im different’#but you have the rationality of not actually Being In The Situation!#would you REALLY be an exemplary human being when forced to make choices under incredible amounts of stress? NO!#idk its. its very interesting! more people should read it! and talk about it! BUT IT GETS FUCKING HEAVY.#basilposting
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being 15 on tumblr is looking at one of your mutuals carrds and seeing "dni if you support unforgivable media" and then the unforgivable media in question is steven universe
#real memory of mine btw. i dont miss that group of mutuals#they also had a dni if you like [insert anime villain here] like. sorry didnt realize liking villains made me evil too#*walks away like the ant with the bindle*#learning to care less about whether media is Perfectly Moral or not because a lot of it isnt! and dark topics being discussed doesnt make -#- something Unforgivable and Bad
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