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trvgcdiv · 1 year ago
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* herakles: blood-stained champion.
basic-ass profile series.
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portrayal notes.
Herakles the Lionhearted, son of Zeus. Culture Hero. God. Murderer. 
Vibes-based portrayal while I pin down the various tales that make up the man, the myth, the legend of Herakles. Currently mainlining The Oxford Handbook of Heracles ed. by Daniel Ogden to get my bearings. 
Themes centered on the meaning of heroism and violence and what happens when the bigge damn hero is more terrifying than the monsters he slays. 
Interested in exploring the fall of a hero :’) (but a hero should rise before he falls, yes?)
Tertiary, Pre/Epic Cycle. Verses include (but not limited to) myth canon, myth AU, modern, and uhhh… Just about anywhere I can slot him in tbh. 
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basics.
Alkaios of Thebes  Herakles God of Strength and Heroes; Divine Protector of Mankind, Patron of the Gymnasium Theban-born, but of Mykenai heritage (Tyrins, Troezen) / Aegan Of white, Black, and mixed indigenous Mexican descent in non-myth verses Pre/Epic Cycle
appearance.
His aura is what's larger than life — the man himself is on the taller side for a man of his era, but hardly the towering height most people imagine based on his exploits. 
Bronzed bc regardless of the existence of sunscreen, he's not gonna wear it. Dark brown hair, curled and thick. Dark eyes that would never be called cow-like. 
A thick dark beard and plenty of body hair as well. If he were a mortal man who changed and aged over time as one, he'd be one hell of a bear. Or, well, "dad bod" for those who aren't MLM.
relationships.
DIVINE HERITAGE: Zeus (father; grandsire); Hera NOTABLE ANCESTORS: Perseus PARENTS: Alcmene of Mykenai and Zeus (divine); Aphitryon (mortal); Rhadamanthus (stepfather) SIBLINGS: many divine siblings by his divine father; Iphikles and Laonome SPOUSE: Megara, princess of Thebes; Omphale, queen of Lydia; Deianira, princess of Calydon; Hebe, goddess of Youth LOVERS: enough of them that I need time to collect a list of names and make a separate headcanon post. CHILDREN: Some say there are over 100. Tbf some of those are now dead.  CONNECTIONS: honestly? Probably everyone.
personality.
The duality of Heracles is that he is both the best and worst person you could ever meet. He’d literally go to Hades and back to repay what’s a relatively small favor. 
He’s also known for impulsive acts of great violence, both in infancy (against the snakes Hera sent to his crib) and in adolescence (the murder of his music teacher, Linus)
He can be extremely generous and exceedingly loyal, boisterous drinker and a genial guest. 
He is also violent, arrogant, and impulsive. He is intolerant to the faintest slight and is capable of extreme brutality. 
Awful in both senses, inspiring awe and dread. 
need to know.
Typical ancient Greek male sexuality in that he has his wife and then both male and female lovers. Less important than the gender of his partners is that he’s (usually) the top. 
Only Omphale has had the honor of topping Herakles in his whole dang life. 
Grew up possibly in Thebes???
Timeline goes: some adventures > marriage to Megara > some adventures > madness and murder of family > 12 Labors in part to cleanse his soul of miasma of his murders > more adventures. 
There’s so much to know lkajsf;fsdaasfd
I’ll update this when I know what’s the most need-to-know
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molkolsdal · 1 year ago
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Onyx cameo engraved with a beardless head of Herakles in profile, wearing a lion-skin over the back of his head.
Roman Imperial, 1st - 2nd century
Akra, Bannu, KPK, Pakistan
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casskeeps · 11 months ago
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gorgons pursuing perseus - dinos and stand by the gorgon painter
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basic facts
date - c600-590 bce
style - early black figure
original location - unknown (likely made in athens)
function - dinos - mixing water and wine
size - 93cm (stand 59cm, bowl 44cm)
context
this is the earliest known example of an entirely narrative frieze in archaic greek art !! what does this mean? lots of influence from corinthia ! this is most evident in the filling of space with rows of animals and patterns - although there is evidence to suggest that the floral motif originated in the east. it's also important to note that the black-figure technique originated in corinthia during the 7th century bce, but was very quickly adopted by the artists of the kerameikos: the centre of attic pottery.
however, there is also clear deviation from the traditions of corinthian influence, such as the existence of the narrative frieze. attic black-figure artists wanted to produce recognisable stories, either from myths (like perseus and the gorgons!) or everyday life. the presentation of the animal friezes is also a deviation from the corinthian standard, as the corinthians preferred to use relatively larger figures, where the athenians preferred smaller figures and devices to fill space.
for reference: a corinthian pot from the late 7th century bce
note the "jagged tooth" pattern !! this shows up a lot ! (like in the françois vase by kleitias - we'll look at it later)
content
the stand
lots of rows of processing animals, with a few instances of floral and abstract patterns.
the dinos
three friezes of processing animals and mythical creatures - these are very carefully drawn ! these are common in early attic pottery due to the corinthian influence, and we can use the care taken in drawing these friezes as evidence to suggest the skill of the gorgon painter.
one frieze of a series of intricate floral patterns - here we have more corinthian influence, although that influence was itself influenced by the orientalising period. this frieze has a lot of attention to detail, another point we can use to suggest the skill of the artist.
the narrative frieze !! this frieze depicts the scene shortly after the slaying of medusa by perseus - he is being chased by the gorgons (medusa's sisters). we can see hermes (identified by his petasos - a wide brimmed hat) and athene (you just need to know this one - on the pot, she's just a tall woman, so you need to know that athene was helping perseus in the myth). on the other side of the narrative frieze, there is a battle between hoplites in chariots. some people believe that the figures are herakles and kyknos, but we don't who is who
stylistic features
the gorgons
woodford talks about the gorgons "in their full gory glory" - they are depicted as being as grotesque as possible
their legs are in profile, whereas their torsos and heads are full-frontal - we can call this an impossible twist, and explain that the positioning of the heads is to emphasise their facial features
the facial features in question are the insectoid (buggy) eyes, puffy cheeks, and mouths with far too many teeth (notice the tongue sticking out !)
this depiction is very similar to the medusa pediment at the temple of artemis at corfu - they were built near the same time, so we could consider it a style convention.
perseus
our guy !!
he also has received the impossible twist treatment - another common archaic feature is the way the artist depicts running: an almost kneeling position was very common, and although it is ,,, questionably accurate, it was accepted by the population at the time to represent running.
his face is in profile, but also contains the full-frontal eye, which is placed strangely - mostly in his nose. the ear is also angled strangely, and has the volute that we recognise in a lot of archaic sculpture
despite these anatomical inaccuracies, he has tried to depict some of the elements of his body - the elbows and knees are incised with "v" shapes at the joints, and the painter as incised a line in an attempt to convey the calf muscles, demonstrating some awareness of the human anatomy. (he also has the twinkiest sluttiest waist in existence but we'll leave that for now)
his clothing (maybe a chitoniskos?) is carefully incised to demonstrate a pattern around the arms and at the top and bottom of the fabric - more demonstration of the gorgon painter's attention to detail.
black-figure technique/era - specific points
lots of incision used to depict small details such as fingers, facial features, and clothing patterns
i don't think there is any added colour but i might be wrong
decorative motifs - floral patterns and repeating animal processions
long fingers
figures are like silhouettes, and appear very flat - garments like the gorgons' tunics lay flat across the thighs with very little consideration of the forms underneath or of the movement
incision is done with an engraving tool - all incision lines are of the same thickness and appear slightly jerky
all figures roughly the same height - allows them to fit onto the same horizontal band - typical of early black-figure
composition
reverse narrative - hoplite battle
we have a few points ! the even spacing of the figures, the symmetry of the figures - shields in the centre, both have their arms raised behind them - and the framing of the scene by the chariots makes a very nice composition.
decorative friezes
these are a little bit funky - some of the animals are in pairs facing each other, so points for that symmetry, but the horizontal lines are much more prominent than the vertical
this breaks the monotony of repeated patterns (good!) but also doesn't help the eye travel up the pot to the narrative frieze - however, we could argue that the emphasis on the horizontal lines encourages the viewer to look at the narrative frieze and its characters across the horizontal line, following the story
narrative frieze
we're going to refer again to the very strong dominant horizontal line, but it's also useful to talk about the repeated pattern of the gorgons - the monotony of this repeated pattern is broken by the falling medusa - we could also mention a repeated diagonal line created by the angles of the bodies as they run
the portrayal of movement is ,,, definitely something. he gave it a go ! and you can understand that he wants you to think that they're running, but it's not particularly accurate - the half-kneeling position was used to demonstrate running a lot
portrayal of anatomy is another struggle, but he's given it a really good go - we've mentioned this before, so it's just a reminder that it's also a composition point according to the specification.
scholarly references
"the gorgon painter announced the blooming of attic production, which increasingly disengaged itself from corinthian influence in the second quarter of the sixth century bc" - martine denoyelles
"anatomy is regularised" - susan woodford
"well-planned and executed correctly, but tame" - r. m. cook
"grandeur has been replaced by neatness" susan woodford
final thoughts !!
i like this pot !! he gave it such a good go and he put so much care into it - it is a very good pot for the time ! that doesn't mean that it was wonderful though, and we can see a lot of improvement over the next century and a half, especially in the portrayal of anatomy. i think it is a very nice blend of the traditions of corinthia and the new style of attic pottery !!
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gointothevvater · 3 years ago
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Her full profile is finally here! Seven pages of information! I may have gone down the rabbit hole just a tiny bit! 
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St. Cecilia Jameson
Gender: Cis female
Status: Alive
Occupation: Singer for British rock band Stiletto ("Like the knife or like the shoe?" "Yes.")
 Family: Elizabeth Robinson, née Wallis (Mother), Bryony Robinson (Older half-sister), Esme Robinson, née Davies (Grandmother, deceased), Herakles Zafeiriou (Biological father, though she's never met him), Evander Zafeiriou (Older half-brother, who she's also never met, though they've exchanged family photos and stories via email)
Voiced by: Florence Pugh (Speaking), Lzzy Hale (Singing)
Age: A few months younger than Pickles
Date of birth: December 15 (Sagittarius)
Place of birth: Oxford, England
Birth name: Felicity Robinson (Initially, only Sammy knows this, though the rest of SnB learns it at Esme's funeral)
Nicknames: Ceelie (By Pickles and Sammy, mostly, though the Dethklok boys pick it up eventually), Star (By Magnus), princess (By Skwisgaar)
Ethnicity: Half English, half Greek (Though she's unaware of the latter for most of her life)
Height: Five-foot-one
Sexuality: Bisexual
Relationship status: It's complicated. It's always complicated. She's unlucky in love. 
Current location: London, England
Appearance: St. Cecilia is a petite woman (She's half a head shorter than Pickles!) with golden skin and long white-blonde hair, which she wears in a high ponytail. She has thick, dark brows and bright brown eyes (Skwisgaar says she has "wolf eyes"). She has three white marigolds tattooed on each shoulder, a labret piercing, and a vertical collarbone piercing at the hollow of her throat. Her ears are pierced three times each, in which she wears two silver hoops and a silver stud on each side, and she has a small black star beneath each eye. She has a Christina piercing, nipple piercings, and a belly button piercing. She has a No Time For Antivenom tattoo on her sternum, and a European robin tattoo at the back of her neck. Along her spine, she has a tattoo reading "to thine own self be true." She has a shitty stick-and-poke crown tattooed behind her right ear. She has a pear body type, with wide hips, a small chest, and an even smaller waist (Nathan can encircle her waist with his hands). She typically wears a black muscle shirt, ripped dark jeans, heavy boots, black driving gloves, and a studded black leather collar with a D-ring at the front. She also wears a Gibson pearl guitar pick on a necklace, which was given to her by Pickles when they first started dating in the 80s. She wears a silver cuff on each ear, and her tongue is pierced with a simple silver stud. 
During flashbacks to the Snakes N' Barrels era, she's shown with darker blonde hair cut in a mullet style, and only her labret and ear piercings, plus one on the right side of her nose. She wears a cropped white tank, with high-waisted jeans and black Converse sneakers. She wears mismatched armbands, one black, one striped, and the same collar she wears in the present.
Her more casual look consists of a black button-up shirt with the sleeves pushed up, which she wears tucked into a pair of leather pants. She wears pumps instead of boots, and her hair is twisted up in a clip. She keeps her collar, but doesn't wear the pick necklace or her ear cuff, and she switches her hoop earrings for studs. She doesn't apply her stars.
For fancier occasions, she wears a black dress with spaghetti straps and a very short, flared skirt, black opera gloves and black strap pumps. She, as always, wears her collar with it, and she pulls her hair into a high bun. 
Personality: St. Cecilia is cocky, witty, and teasing, but ultimately good-natured. She's a bit selfish and stubborn, but she does everything with 110% effort, hoping to impress people, even if she winds up getting hurt in the process. She'll do literally anything for validation. To say she's vain would be an understatement. She's something of a coquette who flirts with both men and women, and is she has a tendency to "think with her dick," as Tony once put it. She's slow to anger, but quick to jealousy, and she holds grudges for far too long. She's the playful type, but it's largely in a chill way. She's an obvious extrovert, and the role as frontman for Stiletto came very naturally.  
Skills & Hobbies: St. Cecilia writes good poetry, great song lyrics, and terrible erotica. She likes plants and is quite the chess player (Though she hasn't managed to beat Charles even once), which she learned during her school days. She also learned to fence, ride horses, and speak fluent Latin there.
Musical Talents: She's a classically trained singer (When she was little, she was part of her church's choir), and she writes most of the song lyrics and some of the music for her band, Stiletto. In Snakes N' Barrels, she played lead guitar on a white Jackson Pro Series Rhoads RR3, but during their reunion concert, she plays a more modern Gibson Explorer '76 Reissue 2010 Cherry. She took piano lessons for several years as a child, and she's still pretty good. Nothing outstanding, but if Stiletto needs to incorporate a piano into a song, she's perfectly capable of playing it herself. 
Relationships: 
-Pickles the Drummer: Their relationship is a complicated one. They've known each other for ages, and they've been together through the highest highs and the lowest lows, all the way down to rock bottom. She partially blames him for her late teens and early twenties being the fiasco they were, and she cut off contact with him for a long time after the SnB breakup. During the run of the show itself, the two reconcile somewhat and even become more or less friends before Abigail shows up and things start to crumble again. They have a hard time admitting it, but there's love between them, and there has been for a long time. They're both afraid to try getting together again, though, as there's a mutual fear of the relationship ending as it did the first time, with them hating each other again. They're back together at the end of Doomstar, but there's no way of telling if the love between them is enough to keep them together or if they'll just fall apart all over again. 
-Magnus Hammersmith: They were more off-and-on than anything, but they were together for years, even though quite a bit of it was long-distance. It wasn't supposed to be a serious thing. It was just supposed to be a quick fuck. Then it was supposed to be a performance to annoy Pickles, but Magnus quickly realized that St. Cecilia's feelings for Pickles were too strong for her to be any use to him in his revenge plot. The basis of their bond formed because they understood each other on a level they've never known with anyone else: Former Snakes N' Barrels guitarist St. Cecilia Jameson and former Dethklok guitarist Magus Hammersmith both understand on a fundamental level what it's like to be left behind and forgotten. Magnus caught a bit of feelings, and when Roy Cornickelson's funeral came around, Magnus warned St. Cecilia not to attend. It was their last interaction, and it forever cast him in a positive light for her, even after she learned what he was doing with the Metal Masked Assassin. 
-Nathan Explosion: They get along pretty well. Their first meeting was at a singers-only Crystal Mountain party, and they ended the evening with a quickie in the coatroom. He wrote a song about the encounter, but Pickles never figured out that it was about St. Cecilia, which Nathan thinks is just the funniest thing. He mostly sees St. Cecilia as one of the guys once she meets with Dethklok again for the SnB reunion. It's a "been there, done that" kind of deal. She's not brutal, but she's funny and she's fun, and goddamn, is she pretty, and they would absolutely hang out if they could get their schedules to line up.
-Skwisgaar Skwigelf: St. Cecilia is nothing short of enchanted by Skwisgaar. It's not a crush, exactly, but she has a huge amount of admiration for him. They've practiced together a time or two, but she's a little rusty and winds up with her fingers bleeding because her calluses have gone soft. He tends to tease her over her soft hands. A guitar god, he tells her, can't have hands like a princess. His calling her “princess” becomes a bit of a thing for them. The two of them often have brunch together, talking shit and drinking. She's good for him; He's never had a female friend before.
-Toki Wartooth: Within the series itself, St. Cecilia hasn't given Toki much thought. He's cute, but he's just sorta there. His incident during the SOBERTOWN USA concert really scared her, and she more or less avoids him after that. Post-DSR, though, their relationship changes. He, like her, was hurt by Magnus, and even with him dead, Toki misses him terribly. St. Cecilia misses him, too. As sad as it is, this becomes their common ground. Their other connection, odd as it sounds, is pole dancing. St. Cecilia does it for exercise, and Toki did it for money, and they often compete to see who's better on the pole. 
-William Murderface: St. Cecilia actually has a begrudging fondness for Murderface. He's awful, but he's also pretty funny, and she likes to hear him talk about knives and medieval weaponry, as her family home is full of such things. They clash over things, of course, but she likes being around him more often than not.
-Charles Offdensen: St. Cecilia really likes Charles, actually. He's basically the only person on the show who's really "on her level" class-wise. He attended Harvard, and she attended Oxford, so they have a great deal to talk about. They play a lot of chess and fence on occasion, and if it weren't for her feelings for Pickles and his obligation to the Church, they just might have gotten together.
-Dick Knubbler: They're friends, in a way. She thinks he's kind of a weirdo, but he knows how to have a good time, so as long as he isn't hitting on her, she likes being around him. 
-Abigail Remeltincdrinc: They became friends mostly due to the fact that they were both women in the music industry (And both working for Crystal Mountain) and supporting each other seemed the right thing to do. Abigail getting involved with Dethklok and catching Pickles's attention quickly became a sore spot, and they drifted apart after that. After DSR, things got even worse. Abigail, naturally, is glad that Magnus is gone, while St. Cecilia is devastated by the loss. They had something of a falling-out over it, and they haven't really spoken since. 
-Edgar Jomfru: Despite being very different people, St. Cecilia really enjoys Edgar's company. He merely tolerates her at first, but she grows on him, to the point where they're legitimately friends come Doomstar. The two of them often have lunch together on the roof of Mordhaus so they can get some fresh air. 
-Family: St. Cecilia's family consists of her mother, Elizabeth, her older sister, Bryony, and her now-deceased grandmother, Esme. St. Cecilia has a very formal, cold relationship with her mother, and she has no desire to change that. As far as she's concerned, her mother doesn't deserve to have a good relationship with her. St. Cecilia adores Bryony, though. Though Elizabeth brags about her, Bryony remains modest and is very close with her sister because of it. Though there's seven years between them, they may as well be twins. Esme, who passed away in 1993, was more of a mother to St. Cecilia than Elizabeth ever was, and St. Cecilia still misses her terribly. She was a big part of getting SnB off the ground, and the boys even came to her funeral.
-Snakes N' Barrels: St. Cecilia adores all the boys, of course, but Sammy is the only one she really kept in touch with after the breakup. He was her favorite long before Pickles joined. There was a pregnancy scare not long after the band took off that somehow, against all odds, brought the two of them even closer. Sammy was St. Cecilia's first love. Her relationships with Tony and Snazz were much more professional, though none of them were anywhere near professional. The crown tattoo behind her right ear was done by Tony on a drunken night in, and it was too good a night for her to even consider covering it or getting it removed. 
-Stiletto: She gets along with them all quite well! She's known Niamh McLoughlin, their bassist, the longest, and their friendship dates back to their school days. Lex Clarke and Priyanka Dayal, the drummer and the guitarist respectively, came as a package deal, as they've been more or less married for years. St. Cecilia adores them and the sweetness of their relationship. She's a little envious of them, actually, though she would never say so.
History:
-Childhood: St. Cecilia was born in Oxford, England to Elizabeth Robinson. She was raised more or less at her family's girls-only boarding school, away from her mother. When she was fourteen, she fell off a horse during an equestrian class and badly injured her shoulder. She was one of the popular girls during her school days, up until she hit fifteen and decided that she was no longer a child and had a right to demand respect from her emotionally distant mother. She quit the piano lessons she had been taking for several years and took up the guitar, though it aggravated her injured shoulder and even as a teen, she developed a dependence on painkillers. This rebellious period stretched until she was sixteen and ran away with the help of her grandmother. St. Cecilia was given her name just before she left, so it would be easier for her to hide, as well as a hefty sum to tide her over until she could get herself settled. She was only in LA for a few weeks before she met Sammy at a bar where the SnB prototype band was playing. Naturally, Snazz and Tony weren't thrilled with the idea of Sammy's kinda-sorta-girlfriend trying to become their lead guitarist, and when Snazz disparagingly referred to St. Cecilia as Yoko, she broke his nose (How could he have not expected violence when a Beatles-loving British girl was called such a horrible thing?). This earned their respect and is an event that they laugh about to this day. 
-Snakes n' Barrels era: St. Cecilia stuck with the band for several months before they found Pickles, and she was smitten with him the moment she heard him sing. Esme was an important source of financial support during their formative years. The band made it big after not too long, and they all grew quite close. St. Cecilia ended up in an ill-fated off-and-on relationship with Pickles as time went on, and to this day she doesn't remember the first time she told him she loved him. It wasn't long after his first OD and his following stint in rehab that she told him, and they were both drunk in celebration of his release. His tolerance, even post-rehab, was far higher than hers, though, and he remembers, though he sometimes hates that he does. Though there was genuine love between them, the stress of the band and both of their substance abuse problems drove a wedge between not only the couple, but also the entire band. Coupled with Pickles fucking groupies behind St. Cecilia's back and St. Cecilia's becoming a rather serious Vicodin addict to combat the pain in her injured shoulder, the band was doomed. Pickles came to see St. Cecilia off on her flight back to England, saying he would meet her there when his next residuals check came in, but he never made it, and they didn't speak to each other for years afterward. It hurt, but St. Cecilia supposed it was for the best. A clean break, and all that.
-Preklok: After SnB broke up, St. Cecilia returned to Oxford, staying with Bryony in their mother's guest house as she tried to figure out her next move. Despite her gift for writing lyrics, she had no talent for writing books, and that idea quickly went down the drain. She still received a large amount of money in residuals, but she was reduced to a mere socialite, though it mostly agreed with her. At her mother's insistence, she attended a few classes at Oxford University. She absolutely loved it. In 1992, Esme passed away. St. Cecilia only told Sammy about it, but he took the initiative and brought Pickles, Tony and Snazz with him to the funeral. St. Cecilia was initially pissed, but she really appreciated the support. That was the only time she saw Pickles between SnB's breakup and their reunion concert. He was devastated when her parting words to him were "I love you with everything I am, but I never wanna see you again." In the mid-90s, she posed for an issue of Playboy, and Pickles has a copy of the issue tucked away somewhere. It wasn't until 1998, when she moved to a little flat in London, that St. Cecilia reunited with her school friend Niamh and the idea of Stiletto came about. They found Priyanka and Lex at an open mic night at one of the local clubs, and they hit it off, both as friends and as bandmates. They played at many clubs and pubs, and they were soon found by a scout at another open mic night. They signed with the UK branch of Crystal Mountain Records and were assigned the surly but efficient Melinda Glasscock as their manager, and within three years, Stiletto was huge, due in part to St. Cecilia's residual fame from Snakes N' Barrels. Their first tour was through Europe, but the second came to America, where St. Cecilia met Magnus in a bar post-show. They got on really well, and she invited him to her hotel room for the night. They exchanged numbers and got quite close over time, with her even flying him out to London from time to time so they could hang out. Magnus knew who she was from the start, and while he planned to use her feelings for Pickles to get her on his side, that soon faded and he came to genuinely like her. She wouldn't learn who he was until later on. A few years before canon, she had a quickie with Nathan in a coat room at a singers-only part at Crystal Mountain records, and he used the fact that she couldn't fit her mouth around his dick as inspiration for Dethklok's infamous song "Glasgow Smile."
-Season 1: 
-St. Cecilia's first mention within the confines of canon is during Performance Klok, when Pickles mentions he hasn't been in a serious relationship since the '80s despite the fact that he would certainly thrive under such attention. 
-She first appears in Snakes N' Barrels, during the documentary the Dethklok is watching. The guys are a little critical when they (Save Nathan, who's known for a long time) learn that part of SnB's downfall was due to Pickles's failed relationship with St. Cecilia. There's some comedic nonsense talk about fucking one's guitarist before Pickles goes to speak with Charles. Though St. Cecilia is working on an album with Stiletto when she's asked to go the reunion, she manages to push through and finish in time, though she arrives nearly late. She finds Pickles backstage, and when he sweeps in to kiss her, she pulls away a bit, saying they can't do this, as she's spoken for. She lets him hold her close, though. The rest of Dethklok finds them like that, and St. Cecilia excuses herself to go find Sammy, Tony and Snazz. There's some talk about Pickles not leaving Dethklok, which he says he won't, but they're rather worried after catching him with St. Cecilia in his arms. Meanwhile, she manages to find the boys, and they meet with Pickles backstage. While the boys partake of the Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake, St. Cecilia doesn't, as she once humiliated herself by passing out on stage and doesn't wish to repeat the incident. She presses a kiss to Pickles's palm before they go on stage, an old ritual that they were never able to shake. What happens is far worse than someone just passing out, and she and Pickles leave the stage amidst the chaos while the medical Klokateers take care of the boys and see them off to the hospital. It's a disaster. She's embarrassed and angry, and she turns down Pickles's offer of a ride home and calls someone instead, as she didn't get her money converted and can't pay for a cab. This someone turns out to be the man who's claimed her, Magnus, and Pickles is none too happy about it. He tries to stop her from going with him, but it doesn't work. 
-She isn't seen in Dethkids, but she is mentioned. When Pickles starts drinking harder than usual, he finally gives in to the urge to call her, to talk about how Sammy and Snazz and Tony are doing, and to tell her that she should steer clear of Magnus. He's so drunk, though, that she barely has even an idea of what he's talking about. 
-Offscreen, but somewhere between the two SnB episodes, Magnus and St. Cecilia abruptly break up. She has a feeling something was going on with him, but his sudden disappearance really hurt her. They had been together off and on for years, after all. A few weeks before he left, he bought her a little pink knife and showed her how to use it, just in case he wasn't around to protect her. When he left, he left his guitar behind, and she still has it as of Doomstar. 
-Season 2: 
-She's mentioned by Seth in Dethwedding, though only as "that British chick" he thought Pickles would eventually have married. Pickles nearly decks him for even mentioning her.
-St. Cecilia's next appearance is in Snakes N' Barrels II. In part one, during the advertisement for the SOBERTOWN USA concert, she's missing from the band lineup, and Pickles is both relieved and a little concerned by her absence. 
-In SnB II part two, Nathan, Skwisgaar and Toki find her among the crowd at the SOBERTOWN USA concert. Nathan asks if she wasn't invited to play, but she says that she was: She just didn't think it was right to play without Pickles. Realizing that Pickles is sneaking around backstage, she leaves to go find him and try to keep him from doing something he'll regret. She only finds him just as Tony, Snazz and Sammy start freaking out, and she only just manages to keep Pickles from killing Rikki Kixx, though she honestly doesn't mind the thought of him dead. She pulls Pickles away from the stage, where he calls the Klokateers to take care of Sammy, Snazz and Tony, and she sets to icing down his bruised knuckles. She tells him that she and Magnus broke up, and he's thoroughly pleased about it: She's too good for him, anyway. That irritates her a bit, but she tells him to call her sometime, though she insists he do it when he's not drunk off his ass. 
-Season 3: 
-Ironically, when Pickles calls her in Dethhealth to inform her that he's dying, he's in fact drunk again. She wants to go to Mordhaus to see him, but he tells her to stay where she is, as he doesn't want her seeing him like that, though she's seen him at rock bottom as it is. At the end of the episode, he's drunker and higher than ever, but he calls her again to let her know he's all right. She can't understand him, though, so he puts Nathan on to explain. She’s thoroughly relieved, but she’s still considering going to Mordhaus to see him. She implores of Nathan, "Take care of him, all right?"
-Offscreen, in the time between Dethhealth and Dethmas, Pickles goes to London for a while to appease St. Cecilia, and to their mutual surprise, it's not really all that different from how it was when they were actually together. There's lots of cuddling and kissing and great sex and just... Hanging out. It's easy for them to be together. They have their share of problems, but the old spark between them is still there. Pickles is honestly a little scared of that: What if he falls for her all over again just for her to break his heart like she did last time? The fact that she has Magnus's guitar makes him doubly suspicious. He starts drinking harder than ever to drown out the thoughts of her. 
-In Rehabklok, when Pickles's drinking is brought to the attention of the band and he's sent to rehab, he tries for a while to blame it on St. Cecilia. She broke his heart, and he drinks to cope. It makes perfect sense, until he starts to really think about it and realizes that he's equally at fault for how their relationship (And also SnB) fell apart. He realizes, after many years, that he hurt her as badly as she hurt him. And that makes him feel even worse. He talks the doctor into letting him call her to apologize, but it doesn't go well: She's a little offended that he would even consider blaming her for his drinking, given he was a drunk long before they met. "Is that what I am to you now? An excuse to get drunk and act a fool?" Not long after that, Pickles realizes the real cause for his drinking.
-Just before Charles goes to speak to the UN in Doublebookedklok, he calls St. Cecilia and cryptically asks her if she speaks Latin. She owes him a favor for getting her out of some legal trouble, so she can't really refuse. Several months before, she punched a scummy paparazzo who called Magnus washed-up, and Charles used his reeducation program to keep those involved from pressing charges or damaging St. Cecilia's reputation. 
-Season 4:
-In Fanklok, before Charles meets with the band to discuss Klokikon, he welcomes St. Cecilia to Mordhaus and presents her with an ancient-looking journal that belonged to Aurelius Isambard, one of the original prophets of the Church of the Black Klok. She's taken down to the basement, where she's introduced to Edgar Jomfru, and gets to work. 
-In Diversityklok, after he's spoken to Edgar, Charles speaks to St. Cecilia. He finds her engrossed, but thoroughly worried. She asks if this is real, and she's even more worried when he tells her it is. 
-Offscreen, St. Cecilia has been hard at work translating the journal, and she's come to a passage that seems to describe the growing tension between the band. It also mentions an approaching star, and she takes to sitting on the roof at night to observe the sky. 
-In Prankklok, when Pickles tells Nathan that he's not allowed to drink any tequila during their friender-bender, Nathan tells him he can't visit St. Cecilia when they stop in London. Pickles reluctantly agrees. Not long after, we see Pickles on his phone, though, debating on calling her just before he notices the storm warning.
-Offscreen, St. Cecilia approaches Charles about a phrase repeated over and over in the journal: Fata sidus oritur, the star of fate is born. 
-After Charles breaks the news about Ice Festival to Skwisgaar in Bookklok, he goes to speak with St. Cecilia and Edgar in the basement. She's tacked two star maps to the wall: One from the previous week and one from the previous night. There's a spot near the center of the first map that seems bigger on the second one. She looks like the world is ending when she tells him it's the Doomstar. It's real. It's coming? When? Soon, she says. Far too soon.
-When Charles tells the boys he's going out of town in Dethcamp, it's to take St. Cecilia to an observatory, where they meet with Ishnifus and spend a few days tracking the Doomstar's movement as it comes closer and closer to Earth. 
-In Going Downklok, when Pickles shows up all decked out for his meeting with Abigail, Nathan is quick to ask, "Don't you have a girlfriend?" Pickles insists he doesn't; He and St. Cecilia was hurt and angry the last time they spoke. On top of that, he believes she's all the way in London, and Abigail is right there. 
-Offscreen, between Dethdinner and Breakup Klok, St. Cecilia is tagged in the video of Pickles leaving Dethklok by a drunken Toki. She's incredibly hurt. Pickles has nothing, he said. She, apparently, is nothing.
-In Breakup Klok, Pickles tries to call St. Cecilia to invite her to his wine tasting, but she refuses to answer and sends him straight to voicemail. Towards the end of the episode, after the escape from Salacia, Charles requests a check-up on Edgar and St. Cecilia back at Mordhaus, and Pickles is stunned and angry to learn that she's been more or less within arm's reach for months. Had he known, he's certain things would have been different-- He wouldn't have tried to make a move on Abigail and he wouldn't have fucked up his chance to get back with St. Cecilia again.
-Offscreen, St. Cecilia speaks to Charles about staying at a hotel for a few days, just until Roy Cornickelson's funeral, after which she'll return to Mordhaus and her translation work. The day of the funeral, though, she receives a call from Magnus telling her she absolutely cannot attend, as he can't guarantee her safety. It's the last time she has contact with him before his death. We also see her watching the news about Dethklok's breakup and the insinuation that Abigail caused it, and St. Cecilia chucks a bottle at the TV, mirroring Pickles's actions in SnB II.
-In Church of the Black Klok, St. Cecilia is fetched from the hotel by Klokateers and taken to the Dethsub, where she meets with Charles, pointedly ignores Pickles, and goes to work with Edgar instead. 
-The Doomstar Requiem:
-In "One of Us Must Die," St. Cecilia can be seen on one of the slides, staring up into the sky with Isambard's journal held to her chest. Towards the end of the song, reading from the book, she sings, "Dethklok, they must be rejoined/Evil, it must be destroyed/No more apathetic stoics/They can learn to be heroic/Write the song that will be our salvation..."
-In "Training," while carrying the journal, she sings the lyrics, "As the prophecy foretold, the Doomstar has been born/And you all will be endowed with a power known to none." Nathan, Skwisgaar and Murderface are looking at the art of the Prophecy, but Pickles is watching her. Ishnifus places a hand upon her shoulder, and they sing together, "The Deth lights are within you all waiting to be woken/And when the five are united, the evil will be broken," in a show of solidarity.
-In "En Antris et Stella Fatum Cruenti," just after Ishnifus is killed and the Doomstar goes red, we see a shot of Charles, Edgar and St. Cecilia at the Church, watching the sky. 
-In "Morte Lumina," in a mirror to Nathan and Abigail's kiss, we see Pickles approach St. Cecilia, and she presses a kiss to his palm (Which is a really significant gesture between them) before he pulls her into his arms. 
Trivia: 
-The stars on her cheeks are actually a makeup trick, as she's afraid to have a needle so close to her eyes. 
-She smokes Honeyrose Cherry cigarettes (Which have roughened her voice a bit), but she doesn't drink to excess, save when she's with Pickles. He's a terrible influence on her, but she adores him just the same. Considering him and Magnus, she has rather bad taste in men.
-Her signature scent is Estée Lauder's Cinnabar, which features notes of jasmine, orange blossom, cloves, and patchouli. She uses a cinnamon body oil when she wants to get Pickles's attention. It always works.
-She wants nothing more than to be loved, but she's keenly aware of the fact that most of the people who "love" her only want to coast on her fame. It's resulted in her having a hard time trusting people. The fact that Pickles and the rest of Dethklok don't need to coast off her is part of why she likes them so much.
-She's an iced coffee addict, and she prefers chocolate, caramel, or hazelnut varieties.
-She was raised Catholic, and while she lapsed a long time ago, she has occasional bouts of Catholic Guilt. Her name is related to her religion, as St. Cecilia is the patron saint of music.
-Her preferred alcohol is Bombay Sapphire gin, though she also likes white wine and champagne.
-She's a plant mom. Her flat is full of plants, including a little devil's tongue cactus she bought at a farmer's market in LA when she first came to America. It's traveled the world with her! It lived in the cupholder of Snazz's van for several years, and now it lives in her kitchen, perched on top of the microwave.
-She has a pretty serious oral fixation. She's always got something in her mouth: A cigarette, a pen, a popsicle, someone's fingers, a dick. Depends on her mood. Getting her tongue pierced helped a little, as she can play with the stud, but some habits just can't be broken.
-She and the rest of Stiletto own a condo building in London together, and she naturally has the penthouse to herself. It's very airy and open, with lots of mirrors and plants and exposed brick. One corner of her living room is just a huge window that looks out on the city. It's her favorite feature. Magnus is too nervous to go near it.
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kaetor · 4 years ago
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[image id: a drawing of technoblade standing in a snowy forest. he's standing in profile view, looking off into the distance. his hand is resting on the hilt of what is probably his sword, and he is wearing a boar skin on his head like Herakles wearing the Nemean lion./end id]
did @thechannelwithoutaname‘s dtiys today and im posting it here also
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osakaso5 · 3 years ago
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Everyday Splendor in Olympus Town: Season 2
Episode 2: Dionysus
Episode Index
Zeus: Ah, your wines truly are special, Dionysus.
Dionysus: I know, right? It's because I gave the grapes extra pets and played them tooons of songs this year.
Zeus: Pets..?
Zeus: I'm not sure what that means, but I do appreciate all the hard work you do for me.
Dionysus: Yay, a compliment. I'm soooo happy.
Hercules: I've finally found you, Dionysus! You're under arrest on suspicion of lying!
Dionysus: Hmm, you're arresting me again? I feel like that's all you ever do, Herakles.
Hercules: It's H-E-R-C-U-L-E-S! Get it right, or I'll add constantly mispronouncing my name to your charges!
Zeus: Do you have to make so much noise?
Zeus: Either be quiet, or begone.
Hercules: ...I didn't realize you were also here, Master Zeus...
Hercules: Nevertheless, this man is a suspect, and I must take him into custody!
Zeus: Can't you see I'm giving my patronage to his oden stand? I can't have him disappear on me.
Zeus: Do not bother us any longer.
Hercules: ...Very well... I'll hold off on the arrest until you're finished dining.
Hercules: And you, don't even think of running away!
Dionysus: Wow, thanks so much for your patience. In the meantime, you should have a drink too, Hecurlies.  
Hercules: ...I'll have sake.
Dionysus: Red wine, coming right up.
Hercules: Huh? No, I said I want sake.
Dionysus: Here's the red wine you asked for.
Zeus: He doesn't serve anything else, you know.
Hercules: You run an oden stand, but don't serve sake..!? Why!?
Hercules: Hm? Wait a minute... Your oden doesn't even have any ingredients other than potato in it!
Hercules: I'd hardly call this oden... So that's another thing I'm adding to your charges.
Dionysus: What charges are those, anyhow? I haven't been lying to people.
Dionysus: All the potatoes are due to your dad here. I'm sure Master Zauss can tell you all about it.
Zeus: Do you take issue with potatoes, Hercules?
Zeus: Or are you trying to inflate your arrest numbers so they'll be as high as those of Odysseus?
Hercules: O-of course not...
Hercules: I'm not worried about Odysseus. Not one bit...
Dionysus: Ahaha, yeah, right. Since you're so cute, I'll let you have  the wine for free, Hercoolio. 
Hercules: I don't need your damn wine!
Hercules: And besides, the charges are not false.
Hercules: They were brought on by your nonsensical stories about there being gold buried somewhere in Olympus Town.
Zeus: Gold, you say..?
Hercules: My investigation points to Dionysus as the source of the rumors.
Dionysus: Oh, the gold thing. I heard about that from one of my customers.
Dionysus: Apparently, someone very important from Olympus Town buried gold to gift to their children.
Dionysus: And it wasn't just gold, I was told. There were also books with crucial knowledge written on them, such as how to pick up girls, or the secret to becoming the strongest warrior the world has ever seen.
Zeus: Knowledge on how to pick up girls, you say..!?
Hercules: The secret to becoming the strongest warrior..!?
Zeus: If I got my hands on those books, women the world over would adore me...
Hercules: If I became the strongest warrior ever, then I could finally defeat  Odysseus and become number one...
Zeus: So, where exactly is this treasure?
Hercules: Tell us right now.
Dionysus: I didn't think you two would be so interested.
Hercules: It must be investigated, that's all. I still think you're lying.
Dionysus: Hmm, but I don't know where it's located...
Dionysus: I wanted to dig it up and give it aaaall to Hestia, but I've been having trouble finding it...
Dionysus: I digged and I digged, but all I found was garbage. Where could the gold be, I wonder?
Zeus: Were there any books among the trash you found?
Dionysus: Hmm, were there?
Zeus: Any information you have will help.
Dionysus: Oh, actually!
Hercules & Zeus: What..!?
Dionysus: There was a note with Ateeny's name on it. It was inside a chest, so I mistook it for treasure.
Hercules & Zeus: That can't be it...
Hercules: ...Wait. I was wondering who's been digging holes in the ground, but it was clearly you! Do you have any idea how long it took me to fill those up!?
Dionysus: Oh, you filled them up for me? That was so nice of you. Have some more free wine, as thanks.
Zeus: I doubt going around digging tiny little holes in the ground was particularly helpful in finding the treasure.
Zeus: We should evacuate the city, and turn the entire soil inside out.
Dionysus: What!? You can do that!? Wow, Master Zauss, you're amazing!
Hercules: Evacuate the city? Hmph, it sounds like you need to be arrested for making terrorist threats. That's another one of my record.
Hercules: And since I'm apprehending such a high-profile suspect, I'll be the talk of the town.
Dionysus: You'll put Master Zauss in jail? Even though he's your old man?
Hercules: Our personal relationship has nothing to do with his wrongdoings. 
Hercules: I'd worry about myself, if I were you. Your arrest has only been postponed, not cancelled.
Dionysus: You're such a scary policeman. If I go to jail, I can't see  Hestia anymore. Or drink red wine.
Dionysus: Oh, I know! Since you're arresting us both, how about you put us in the same cell?  
Dionysus: That way, Hestia can come  bring us treats, and we can probably  keep drinking wine all day long! 
Hercules: Your laziness astounds me...
Zeus: Hmph, a mere officer of the law will not capture the almighty Zeus.
Dionysus: Whoooa! You're sooo cool! A toast to Master Zauss!
Zeus: Hah hah hah. But of course.
Hercules: ...Ugh... It's pointless to reason with these drunkards...
Dionysus: Heeey! Harculius, stop standing around and drink with us.
Hercules: It's Hercules! ...Though I suppose correcting you won't make a difference...
Zeus: Who cares about names? Have a sip of the greatest wine you'll ever have the privilege to enjoy.
Hercules: Fine... I'll have one glass with you, then.
Hercules: ........!? This actually tastes quite good...
Dionysus: Doesn't it!? I think I've managed to make something special this year.
Hercules: You're under arrest for making wine that tastes too good.
Dionysus: Hehehe, you sure do love arresting people! I must say, I like the sound of those charges.
Dionysus: Drink up, there's plenty more great wine for both of you to enjoy. 
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[Image description: Concepts of posters for Khôra Podcast. 1. Labelled "E3 Rotten Place". A thumbnail shows Medusa frowning with her eyes closed and hugging her arms. Her wire hair sticks up around her head. Behind her is a decorated circle. A swirly pattern beside it is labelled "Shield/Aegis border". The top and bottom of the thumbnail are labelled "top and bottom borders are 12 labors of Herakles". There is a list of all the labors and small doodles of each.
2. Labelled "E4 Rogue AIs". A thumbnail shows Medusa reaching up towards a computer chip inscribed with "Daphne" in ancient Greek. It is surrounded by laurels. The border is circular and contains patterns. To the right is a sketch of the chip, Medusa frowning and holding the chip in both hands, the Apollo Industries logo with a sun, and a drawing of Daphne. She looks sad. A note says, "Laurels are symbols of Daphne".
3. Labelled "E5 Knossos". The thumbnail shows Ariadne standing in the front and looking over her shoulder. Behind her is the Minotaur. To the right is a sketch of Ariadne, who has her natural hair in two puff ponytails. She smiles and holds a wrench. There is also a sketch of a city and Atalanta from the back view.
4. Labelled "E6". The thumbnail shows a Ariadne floating in space and reaching up to touch the Minotaur. They are surrounded by a gold labyrinth, debris, and satellites. A corner is labelled "Argo". To the right says, "Usually the Labyrinth is also Ariadne's dancing ground so like. cool." and "Needs golden string (leading to Ariadne)." Below is a small sketch of Ariadne and the Minotaur and the Minotaur curled up into a ball.
5. A thumbnail of Two Thirds of a Liar. Medusa's eyes are wide as she discharges electricity through her hair. Medicine bottles are scattered around her feet. Robots crowd around her. Two figures behind her are labelled "Atalanta and Medea". To the left is a sketch of Andromeda winking and smiling. A note says, "Andromeda winks an unhealthy amount." Below is a profile view of Andromeda grinning like in the thumbnail. 6. Another thumbnail of Two Thirds of a Liar, which shows Andromeda grinning and standing on a table. She raises a flask. There is a crowd gathered around her, including Atalanta, Medusa, and Medea. Notes say, "cool Greek style space tavern" and "Go wild with the faces/crowd". To the left is a sketch of Andromeda stepping forward with her hands on her hips. End description]
You’ve all seen the posters for the first ten episodes of season 1, but not quite like this...
Episode poster artist and voice of the Talespinner Hayan Lee brings us some of the early concept art for the first half of the season.
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elprupneerg · 3 years ago
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Ok so some of the personifications are furries/furry adjacent. Definitely more than just this list but these are the ones i’ve thought through
Alfred: Very much a furry. Multiple fursonas, but usually some sort of dog. Commissions art regularly, and his profile pictures on social media are a rotating assortment of pics he’s bought. Everyone knows he’s a furry, but he’s so nonchalant about it that nobody bothers to make fun of him outside of some lighthearted teasing. Doesn’t own a fursuit (yet). Doesn’t usually see it as a sexual thing, but it can be occasionally. Tries to go to at least one convention a year and has an absolute blast.
Lovino: Also a furry, but nowhere near as open about it. His furry fandom accounts have pseudonyms and he never shows his face. Maybe 5 other personifications know about it because he’s embarrassed (not embarrassed enough to stop commissioning art though). Sees it as more sexual than Alfred, but that’s not the Only reason he enjoys it. Would like to go to a convention, but doesn’t want to show his face or wear a mask, so he’s conflicted. Thinks fursuits look too expensive and uncomfortable to bother with.
Francis: Not really a furry per se, but literally every furry he’s interacted with on the internet has been nice to him or good at art or just generally pleasant. Has commissioned art, as well as had it gifted to him. Doesn’t have a fursona, instead asking furry friends to pick an animal for him whenever the topic comes up. Will absolutely defend furries with his life, but probably would never go to a convention because he’d feel like he was intruding.
Feliciano: Not a furry, but does art on commission. The first time someone commissioned him to do a renaissance-style painting of their fursona he almost refused, until he saw how much they offered to pay him. Is now famous among furries for 1) how highly technically skilled his paintings are 2) how much commissioning him costs (to cover the costs of paint/canvas/brushes/shipping the finished art) and 3) getting mad at anyone who calls him a furry. He doesn’t have anything against them (they pay his bills!) but he hates inaccuracies. Keeps his furry art account separate from his other art and his socializing accounts. 
Ludwig: Also not a furry, but everyone thinks he is one. Alfred keeps inviting him to conventions and he keeps having to decline and it’s getting awkward. Francis once commissioned art of them together (he picked a dog for Ludwig and the artist chose to make Francis a cat) and gave it to him for Christmas, at which point Ludwig gave up on trying to get anyone to think he wasn’t one. Is one of the people who knows Lovino is a furry, but keeps quiet about it.
Herakles: Doesn’t know about the furry community but if he did he’d 100% join in. He just really fucking wants to be a cat y’all. Fursuits are expensive as hell so he’d probably never get one, but he likes to wear cat ears and a tail to costume parties.
Gilbert: Got assigned a fursona (feather-sona?) by one of Francis’s artist friends, who drew them together as pigeons. For a bit there he and Francis had matching twitter icons made from the art. Knows about the furry community and knows Exactly what people think when they see his pigeon-sona, but he’s a troll and doesn’t care. Once got sevewal othew pewsonifications to bwock him on twittew aftew tweeting wike dis for an entire week uwu. Doesn’t consider himself a furry, but finds it entertaining to request pictures of his pigeon doing skateboard tricks or flying a rocketship.
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breitzbachbea · 3 years ago
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👨‍👧‍👧 Do you tell people in real life that you write fic?
🌝 Who is one character you haven’t yet written for that you would like to?
/ @fireandiceland (there were so many others I also wanted to send but I settle for these two for now ^^)
Oh Riva, feel free to send more for me to answer tomorrow!
Fanfic Ask Game
👨‍👧‍👧 Do you tell people in real life that you write fic?
Oh yeah! Like, I wouldn't send my grandma my ao3 account, but I talk rather freely about writing as a hobby and say where one can find me if they want to read my stuff. I usually don't talk about what I write more specifically, because talking about fanfic with someone outside a fandom just isn't very interesting to me.
🌝 Who is one character you haven’t yet written for that you would like to?
Let's get one non-Hetalia related thing out, because my entire ao3 profile is either Hetalia, my original characters from my Hetalia AU "Like Father Like Son" (LFLS) or the OCs of my beloved friend Jonah.
I reread Soul Eater last year and read some excellent GiriJasu Fanfics to the point I had an idea for one myself. I even have some dialogue snippets still in my notes app, but sadly, I don't think I'll ever write it :') WIP list for LFLS too long and hyperfixation on Hetalia/my OCs burning too bright.
So back to my regular scheduled bullshit - Hetalia/LFLS
There are a lot of characters I'd like to write. The problem with LFLS is that the worldbuilding always requires every nation to have two right hands for me to consider international relations properly. Means I can't just have a character without their two closest allies, besties, worsties, their dreamteam. I however also keep telling myself NO new OCs, because I already have too many and this AU is wildly out of control already.
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But I have been reading way too much fanfiction that features aph Egypt & been thinking too much about how much more I could do with Turkey's neighbours & old acquaintances, so have my ramblings under the cut anyways:
- I was thinking of a followup for The Amulet of both of them running to other people - Michele in Herakles' case and Mohamed (Egypt) in Sadık's. This was also inspired... well, the root of all of this is honestly me reading too many TurGre fanfics with the Egyptian in it, even some TurGregypt stuff. (Which also means that if I ever write this, I have to fold and make Egyptians. SIIIIIIGH.) ALSO, sidenote about that - Love the idea of Turgypt or Turgregypt in this. I'm so sorry though, because the other thing I fucking loved in the fanfics was Mohamed always being the second fiddle, the only one next to Herakles, but still not there. And he knew it. So I also do wish him that he actually found a more stable, nice partner in here. Presents us with 3/4 possibilities though: 1. His partner is not down to clown whatsoever. Mohamed is off-limits. 2. His partner IS down to clown and foursome shenanigans continue to ensue. (If it worked with SicIre, why stop there.) 3. His partner would be down to clown with ONE of them, but not both. Now, I'm sure Sadık has made enemies enough that it'd be easy to find someone who's give Herakles a thumbs up, but not the Turk. However, it would be so infinitely funnier therefore to find someone who says yes to Sadık but isn't here for Herakles. "Oh yeah, I could go for a hatefuck with Sadık, but I don't know about the Greek."
- Here are some more ideas about potential right hands for both Egypt and Iran/Persia:
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- Recently sent Jani a voice note about how funny it would be if the OLD right hand of Mohamed (who must have already worked for his parents, at least) brought the other, younger one into business ... and they had this dynamic: "I should have left you on that street corner where you were standing." "But you didn't!" (If you don't know this video, do yourself the favour and watch it.)
- Also this post about a potential right hand for aph Iraq. I know nothing about Iraq and would super love to have a good reason to learn more; I would need someone else's aph Iraq OC though, because I'm not making any new aph OCs these days.
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Tim’s Secret Weapon Pt.9
I’ve been slightly obsessed with @ozmav​ ‘s Damian Wayne/Marinette Dupain-Cheng pairing as of late, and just saw a post that has inspired me more than anything else has in months, so I felt the need to write it
Summary- Tim has always seen the numbers floating above people’s heads, been able to perceive their threat levels with a single glance. After being a hero for so long he thought he was desensitized to seeing high numbers above people’s heads until Damian brings a new friend home.
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Part 9 (HERE)
Part 10
This will probably be the last update for awhile, I start student teaching this coming week and I’m nervous as all hell right now
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It took a good twenty minutes to calm down the Miraculous Team, during which Max had changed back and needed to feed his Kwami,  Kaalki, before changing back. 
Tim mentally edited his profile for the Horse hero, while his brother's teased the teenagers. 
Max ????- Baskerville Font Deep Golden 13, Codenamed- Pegasus. Kwami- Kaalki, the Horse. Main Power- Voyage. Time limit of Ten Minutes after using Voyage before Forced Detransformation. 
 He’d need to ask later if this time limit existed for the other heroes as well. He was also going to have to hack Collège Françoise Dupont’s register to complete these kid’s profiles apparently. 
The other heroes offered to detransform as well, but Ladybug suggested they wait until after the meeting Bruce had set up as they only had minutes before he told the other heroes to connect. 
 “Ready?” Bruce asked as he pulled on his cowl, the domino masks quickly being tossed to the correct brother as the Paris heroes exchanged looks.
 “Nope,” Bunnyx answered as she flopped down into her seat next to Viperion, “let’s get this started,” 
 The Heros of Paris all held hands as they sat on the side of the Conference table that the active camera couldn't see. The Batfamily sat across from them with Batman at the head of the table as he opened the video call. 
“Hey Bats,” Flash greets as the founders all joined the video chat, “What’s with the emergency meeting?” 
 “This is highly unusual for you, Batman,” Superman added, “Should we be heading for the Zeta tubes?” 
“While urgent,” Batman answered, eyes narrowed, “What I’m about to say isn’t exactly time-sensitive, but it is dire that we come up with a plan to assist soon.” 
Green Lantern raised an eyebrow, “That doesn’t sound good.” 
 Marinette could feel her team growing restless around her from beyond the view of the camera. After so long trying and failing to reach out, this was their chance to end things. Seeing Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter so close nearly made her heartbeat straight out of her chest.
  It was unreal…How much had her world view shifted in the last twelve hours? The blunder of a Billionaire that more closely resembled a zombie gorilla then human if woken up before 8 am was THE Batman, The nearly thirty-year-old police officer that still thought Captain Crunch was a suitable dinner was Nightwing, the man who tried to sneak in and steal macarons out of the oven only to pout when he burned himself was Red Hood, the much too young CEO who routinely did his paperwork in green crayon to anger those filing it was Red Robin, and oh not to mention her boyfriend who had sworn her into secrecy after crying during Tangled was the latest Boy Wonder. 
 “Paris has been under attack for nearly four years,” Dick answered from where he sat directly to Bruce’s right, “They’ve been fighting the threat alone, despite the villains' potential.   to destroy the world.” 
The seasoned heroes all stiffened. 
 Martian Manhunter was the first to speak, “What is the threat and who are these heroes?”
 “A villain known as Hawkmoth rose to power almost four years ago,” Batman told them, “He has the power to control those that express intense negative emotions and give them powers of varying intensity. Ladybug and Chat Noir have been fighting him back since he first-” 
 “Did you just say Ladybug and Chat Noir?” Wonder Woman cut him off, “Do you perchance mean the Ladybug of Creation and the Black Cat of Destruction?” 
 All eyes were on the princess as she stared down Batman. He didn’t move but Marinette could feel his eyes flickering past the camera and towards her, letting her make a move if she wanted to. 
 She hesitated before clicking the button Red Robin had given her to enter into the video call, “Yes. That is exactly what he meant.” 
 Wonder Woman’s eyes flew open wide as she saw the bright red outfit, arms snapping in front of her, crossed at the wrists, head bowed, “My Lady!” 
 Marinette cocked her head to the side, confused, “There’s no reason to call me my lady, honestly you just sound like Chat. I’m surprised that any of the League knew of the miraculous.” 
 Diane lowered her hands, looking up once more, “As you wish Ladybug, and every Amazon know the tales of Ladybug. After all, my mother once wore your earrings and held your mantle with Herakles as her Μαύρη γάτα.”
 Ladybug broke into a smile, “Hippolyta… Tikki has told me stories of past users, Πασχαλίτσα was one of my favorites to learn about.” 
 “Woah, Woah, Woah!” Flash waved his hands frantically, “Are we saying that she’s on par with your mother?!” 
 “Now I won’t-” 
 Diane cut her off, “Yes. All of Themyscira would follow a ladybug into battle as willingly as they follow my mother, their Queen.”
 The young heroine blushed as Chat, Bunnyx, King Monkey and Abeille laughed, Viperion Pegasus and Ryuko smiling at the shocked faces on the League’s faces. 
 “ Good to know my Lady is so highly respected,” Chat finally spoke up leaning into frame from her right. Marinette sighed, honestly surprised he remained quiet this long. Silently she clicked the button that made the camera pan out to bring her entire side of the conference table into view. 
 “As I’m sure you guessed,” She said to the gathered heroes, “I am Ladybug, and this is my partner Chat Noir. The other members of our permanent team are Abeille, the Bee of Subjection, Ryuko, the Dragon of Power, and Viperion, the Snake of Chance. On our reserve team is Pegasus, the Horse of Teleportation, King Monkey, the Monkey of Jubilation, and Bunnyx, the Rabbit of Time.” 
Wonder Woman looked worried, “So many active, your war must be devastating.” 
 Abeille scowled, “Paris would have been nothing but bloody rubble within a month had Ladybug not had her Miraculous cure. Hawkmoth, Butterfly of Transmission, and Mayura, Peacock of Emotion, have been attacking us for almost four years at this point trying to take Ladybug’s and Chat Noir’s miraculous, and our requests for help from the League have been ignored up until this point.” 
 “Requests?” Superman questioned as the elder heroes all stiffened, “What requests?” 
The Paris team gave them skeptical looks. 
“You’re kidding right?” Chat Noir asked slowly, “My Lady and I sent probably two dozen requests for aid since we were given our miraculous before being sent what might as well have been a cease and desist request that was just signed from the league because it was thought that everything that had leaked out of the city had just been fancy video editing and CGI. How could you guys not know?” 
“As one of the main reviewers of requests,” Manhunter replied monotoned even as his jaw clenched, “I never saw any of these messages.” 
“Yeah man,” Green Lantern added, “Neither did I, and I help out a lot up in communications when I’m not out on business. Plus we’ve never sent out a ‘stop calling us’ message before.”
“Well someone had to reject us,” Pegasus argued, “Logically speaking it has to be someone from the League as the other option is an unknown individual hacked into the League’s database and the only detectable thing they did was delete the messages from Paris.”
“I don’t care who it was, Find them,” Robin growled, white knuckles clutching his katana hilt, “I wish to disembowel them.” 
“You will not.” Ladybug’s voice was low and pointed, “Not only have we handled ourselves well, but I won’t condone infighting just because someone messed up. I don’t care who rejected us at this point, Paris has a strong team protecting it and the League is lending us their help now, something that might have been detrimental a few years ago.” 
“Detrimental?” Wonder Woman questioned, a twinge of hurt in her voice, “How would the League of been detrimental?” 
Flash scratched the back of his head, “Yeah, how would The League being in Paris be bad, kid?"
“Pfft,” Bunnyx just laughed, “Geez, Kids? Could you guys be more condescending? It’s not like we’re seasoned heroes in our own right by now or anything.” 
Ryuko's gaze flicked over all of them, “Your trust in us is lacking because of our age, but you want to give us a chance to show you how we operate since we have been taking care of our city. During our battle today the entirety of the Batfamily was watching us from the shadows and yet never felt like they needed to intervene with a team that already works efficiently with each other, yet you still question us.”  
“You saw us?” Jason asked a little startled, “Damn Onna-bugeisha, you’re sharp,” 
The girl smiled softly, “I appreciate the praise, however, I would suggest not wearing a large bright red bucket on your head next stealth mission. I was already on the lookout for red so it made spotting you and your family easy.” 
Dick snorted, “Told you your helmet wasn’t slick,” 
Jason just glared and shot back, “Discowing,”
“We’re not speaking of that atrocity. I’m going to need eye bleach to forget it already,” Marinette shuttered before becoming serious again, “The point we were trying to make is that I and my team have your trust. With Wonder Woman, Batman and his team speaking for us, you respect our claim to protecting Paris and the fact that we are the most knowledgeable people when it comes to Miraculous and our villains. Would we hold that same respect in your eyes if you arrived when Chat and I only held our miraculous for a few months? When we were inexperienced and improvising? Or would you have swooped in here with promises to fix things while shoving us to the side, upsetting us to the point where we might have been akumatized because of how little say we were given in protecting our city and stopping the villain that threatened our friends and families?”
The league heroes all shifted a little uneasy. The girl had a point. 
Inexperienced heroes had to earn the League’s respect through hard work and proving their worth, something that could have left them open to akumatiation, giving the villain exactly what he wanted. 
“Another thing,” Ladybug added eyes scanning over their faces with a serious glare, “This is our city and we have experience with the villains here and what to avoid. With that said, I believe the only members of the Founding Justice League I would trust to be in Paris before Hawkmoth and Mayra are relieved of their miraculous are Batman, Martian Manhunter, and The Flash.” 
“What!” Green Lantern yelped, but the Paris team all nodded in understanding. 
 “Ooh Yeah,” King Monkey cringed, “The last thing I want to do is face an akumatized Wonder Woman.”
“Dude, you’d be the only one safe from an evil Green Lantern,” Bunnyx groaned, “Can you imagine the damage? It’d be like Mr. Mime on Steroids!”
Viperion turned to Pegasus and asked, “If Superman got akumatized what is the likelihood that Luck Charm would just give us a chuck of Kryptonite?” 
“Considering she’s dating a Bat,” The younger man started ignoring the bugging eyes of the League, “There is a higher chance that it will just give her an indication to use Voyage to retrieve him and the kryptonite he no doubt possesses. On the 17.85% chance, it gives us Kryptonite, I’d be worried about using it as all of the Lucky Charms are red and black. Red Kryptonite usually causes a bloodlust, or uncontrollable rage in Kryptonians, while Black causes the being to be split into a good and an evil version of themselves.” 
“Soooo,” Bunnyx  draws out, “Use Uproar to take their powers away, then the kryptonite so that we just have too really angry dudes fist fighting each other in the middle of Paris?” 
Pegasus nods, “Yes that plan holds an 85% chance of working should we be put into that situation.” 
Batman just rubbed the bridge of his nose, “Should I ask where you learned so much about Kryptonite?” 
“No.” The Paris team chorused.  
The Martian looked intrigued, “Back to the original statement, May I acquire what sets us apart from the others so much that you’d be willing to accept our help but not theirs?” 
“Easy,” Chat answered, smirking slightly at the flustered looks that still remained on the rejected heroes faces, “Hawkmoth and Mayra prey on negative emotions, whether that’s anger, frustration, fear, sadness, or disgust. The more powerful the emotion the stronger the Akuma or Amok is that we have to face is. Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern are known for using their emotions as strength during a fight.” 
“What about Flash?” Green Lantern barked, looking miffed, “The dude isn't exactly Mister Stoic." 
"Oh Oh!” King Monkey had his hand raised above his head, “I’ll take this one!” 
“Go ahead King,” Ladybug offered with a bemused look.
The Burly teen grinned up at the monitor, “We’ve found there are two great ways to keep from falling into Hawkmoth’s hands, thought considering everyone but Ladybug has been akumatized at least once this is mostly through trial and error. We’ve come to realize that either you need to be like Ladybug, Pegasus, and Ryuko, confident and professional to the point you don’t have time to let negative emotions, and  how Chat and I deal with it and it’s probably the same way Flash deals with the horrors I’m betting all of you deal with on a biweekly basis, if not more.” 
The speedster gave a tired smile, “An over cheerful, bantering mask?” 
Chat clicked his tongue and shot duel finger guns at the monitors, “Bingo Bongo,”
Abeille rolled her eyes, as Ladybug smacked him lightly over the head, “Nerd.” 
King just smiled wider, “Yup! We flirt, we banter, we joke around with our partners and the villains, cause it makes it easier for us to deal with after we're out of danger.” 
Superman’s eyes grew a little far away, “You pretend not to take things seriously?” 
Chat shrugged, “I mean kinda? It’s more like knowing that if everyone was serious then it would start wearing on us. We’re all people, we can’t stay serious 100% of the time, plus I know that when I crack puns the other may groan but their attacks are a little less sloppy, My lady may say she hates it when I call her Bugaboo, but it pulls her away from a bad headspace and helps her focus. It’s just our way of dealing with the dangers we face.” 
“The Heart of the Team,” Batman spoke with a heavy reverence that had each of the seasoned heroes looking over the Paris group with understanding. 
“Alright,” Green Lantern sighed, “Supes, Wonder Woman and I will stay out, but why don’t you explain what’s happening exactly in Paris. What is this Hawkmoth guy after anyways? What’s his end goal?” 
Ladybug’s eyes grew hard as her team straightened around us, “His goal is to obtain the Ladybug of Creation’s earrings, and the Black Cat of Destruction's ring. Whoever possesses both shall have unimaginable power, and the ability to grant one wish by rewriting the very essence of reality.” 
Flash let out a low whistle, “Wow, and his wish is lovely I’m sure.” 
Chat’s voice was soft, but held immense weight, “His wish could be of pure intentions and goodwill, but it doesn’t matter, because the balance must be maintained and the price is always much more destructive then one can ever imagine.” 
Ladybug nodded in agreement to her partner before taking over, “An Italian father wished for his family to never know sickness like that that took his sister from him when he was young, to live long happy lives free of sickness.  The wish came true and nothing worse then a cold touched the family, even today, but three days after the wish was made the first ship that was contaminated with the Black Plague landed in Italy.” 
“A teenager, whose homeland was riddled with war and bloodshed,” Chat chimed in again, even as the surrounding group looked sick, “He wanted for the fighting to stop, for his parents to not have to risk themselves anymore to keep their city safe, for him not to have to take up the blade in only a few short years. His wish was granted the fighting stopped and he no longer had to worry about his family dying to senseless war… because his entire city, the city of Atlantis had sunk into the sea, almost two-thirds of the population perishing as the last third realized they had an unknown ability to breathe underwater and survive the harsh conditions of the sea.” 
Aquaman looked uneasy, “So much damage for such simple wishes?” 
Chat just nodded, “Balance needs to be maintained, and each wish is a lesson in human’s foolish nature to try and fix the universe for their own needs and wants. The simple truth of the matter is no lesson is painless. Even the Kwamis can’t change that.” 
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“Why don’t we head to my hotel?” Abeille asked as she stretched. The call to the League had drawn to a close leaving the teens mentally exhausted but giddy, “That way we don’t need to transform again, and we can just tell our parents that we were hanging out in my room instead of each coming up with a cover story. The fact that the Waynes are also staying there just makes it easier for us.” 
“Good idea,” Ladybug agreed, “But I want to remind all of you are under no obligation to share your identity if you don’t want to, Red Robin won’t share it with the others even if  they ask.” 
“I knew Bruce’s identity for like 6 years before I broke into the cave and asked to be Robin. I think I can manage not to spill your secrets” He revealed with a little laugh as his family gave him strained looks. 
The Paris heroes laughed before Pegasus, asked for the room they were staying at, quickly opening a portal.
Alfred simply raised an eyebrow, “Well, I expect the meeting went well then?” 
Marinette flopped onto the couch with a groan as her transformation fell away, “You guys were not exaggerating with how much of a boy scout Superman is!” 
Jason snorted as the other Paris heroes agreed, “Yeah Supes always had a stick up his rear, but J’onn is looking forward to meeting you guys, the dude doesn’t get off the Watchtower much.”
“Maybe he’ll bring M’gann,” Dick suggested, “She always loves meeting new heroes, and I’m sure she and Supey would love to talk magic.”
“Change first,” Bruce ordered, ushering his children back towards the main bedroom, “Then we can hash out anything else we wish tonight.”  
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 Tim felt himself relax more as the transformations fell around the teens, one by one, each taking time to introduce themselves and their Kwamis to the Bats. Profiles gradually began to fill further in his mind.  
Marinette Dupain-Cheng- Cursive Soft Pink 15, Codenamed- Ladybug. Kwami- Tikki, the Ladybug of Creation. Main Power(s)- Lucky Charm and Miraculous Ladybug. Possible time limit, estimated to be 20 minutes after use of Lucky Charm
Chloe Bourgeois- Delicate Canary Yellow 14, Codenamed- Abeille. Kwami- Pollen, the Bee of Subjugation. Main Power- Venom. Possible time limit estimated to be 15 minutes after the use of Venom.
Kagami Tsurugi- Calligraphed Burgundy 13, Codenamed- Ryuko. Kwami- Longg, the Dragon of Power. Main Power- Elemental Transformations. Possible time limit estimated to be 15 minutes after the use of all three elemental transformations. 
Adrian Agreste- Bubble lettered Neon Green 15, Codenamed- Chat Noir. Kwami- Plagg, the Black Cat of Destruction. Main Power- Cataclysm. Possible time limit, estimated to be 20 minutes after use of Cataclysm
Max Kanté- Baskerville Font Deep Golden 13, Codenamed- Pegasus. Kwami- Kaalki, the Horse of Teleportation. Main Power- Voyage. Time limit of Ten Minutes after using Voyage before Forced Detransformation. 
Lê Chiến Kim - Buffon Font Grayish Brown 13, Codenamed- King Monkey. Kwami- Xuppu, the Monkey of Jubilation. Main Power- Uproar. Information points towards some type of time limit, but currently unknown
Alix Kubdel- Thin decorative font, Norwolk probably, Icy Blue 13, Codenamed- Bunnyx. Kwami- Fluff, the Rabbit of Time. Main Power- Burrow. Information points towards some type of time limit, but currently unknown. 
Finally, he turned to the snake-themed hero, the only one who hadn’t changed back yet only to have considering aqua eyes peering back. 
????- ?????, Codenamed- Viperion. Kwami- ?????, the Snake of Chance. Main Power- Second Chance. Possible time limit estimated to be 15 minutes after the use of Second chance (in a single time stream). 
The only puzzle left on the Paris team. 
“So I’m the only one you haven’t figured out yet,” He asked, a considering look flashing over his face. 
Tim shrugged, “The miraculous mess with my power so I can’t see your number while you’re transformed so yes. I haven’t figured out a thing about you yet.”
“Well,” Viperion hummed a sly grin as he leaned into The older hero’s space, “I’m not going to give you an easy answer then, Bird boy.”  
Tim couldn’t help the indignant huff, “Bird Boy? I’m older than you!”  
“Hmmm,” The smirking snake just served to make the other Bat’s share a look at the display, “Well, Bird Boy. Let’s see how fast you can find me,”   
“It’s Red Robin-”
“Yumm~” 
Tim’s cheeks burned as his brothers, Chat Noir, Bunnyx, and King Monkey cackled behind him, the other heroes hiding smiles. The younger hero finally pulled back and leaped out of the window and disappearing into the night with a final wink at the stunned hero. 
"Looks like you're following in B's footsteps," Dick teased clapping his shoulder, causing the others to laugh harder as Tim tried desperately to find his tongue. 
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trvgcdiv · 1 year ago
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goal for today is to get smth down for an alpha or beta test version of Herakles (incl. the research necessary for it) and work on his profile
also try to post a few basic profiles for the gods
if I have time: I may work on a blog/theme refresh
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Sorry i was going through your tag of greek mythology and in one of them you said apollo was a weird god and i just kept imagining why ?
Hello! Thank you for the question - I’m very happy you’re finding interesting stuff in my mythology tag! Unfortunately, I can’t direct you to any online sources because I’m going to share facts I learned in uni, I finished my degree before the internet started to get useful (our Google was actually this thing -
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- and it was a bit slow, but beyond awesome). Still, I know I recced some general books about religion and mythology somewhere, and I’m sure you found those already. Oh, and as a foreword - as I’m sure you know, understanding Greek religion is a bit of a hassle because it’s a ‘natural’ religion, which means no official sacred texts or uniform canon or anything, so remember that what follows should come with a lot of footnotes.
I always liked Apollo, but he’s a bit of a frustrating god to study because he’s very complicated. Here are the three main reasons why I called him weird.
1) He’s very old but also foreign and we don’t know where from
If I remember this right, Apollo already shows up in Linear B, which makes him one of the oldest gods in the Greek pantheon. But: in most texts, he’s considered (and identifies himself as) a foreign god, who came from some other land and is not fully committed to Greece (for instance, in Troy he sided with the Trojans like other ‘exotic’ gods, such as Aphrodite). This would be puzzling enough - but on top of that, we don’t exactly know where he’s from. There are some clear connection to Middle-Eastern gods, but most sources place his origins up North (for instance, in the land of the Hyperboreans), which doesn’t make a lot of sense because most of the borrowed elements in Greek religion (and culture) tend to come from Mesopotamia. It’s also hard to understand why Apollo is still considered a sort of outsider in Classical times, so basically after he’s been ‘part of the family’ for two millennia or so? This isn’t the case with a goddess like Aphrodite, who’s also Middle-Eastern but was fully assimilated much more quickly.
2) He’s very distant but also not
Perhaps because he took over the duties of sun god as Greek religion developed and the more ‘basic’ gods were discarded, Apollo is often presented as the god who strikes from afar and doesn’t mix all that well with humans. This is consistent with general sun mythology (you need the sun but you don’t want it too overpowering because droughts are a catastrophe), but fits together very badly with other jobs assigned to Apollo. For instance, as the god of medicine he does interact with people in an extremely direct way (for instance, by sending dreams to the sick praying to him in his sanctuaries), and despite knowing full well Troy would fall, he chose to enter the fray himself and was very aggressive (and underhanded) in his attempts to delay the inevitable. This duality is also expressed in his relationship with women - most stories in this sense are marked by potential lovers fleeing him and rejecting him (possibly another sun-related metaphor), and there aren’t a lot of families or heroes claiming direct kinship with him. Which, again, is unusual, because Apollo is a very powerful god with a well-established place in the pantheon, so you’d expect more genealogy myths and more people bragging about some kind of relationship with him. And on top of all that, there is a very weird but consistent theme in iconography - Apollo striking the giant Tityos with a sword -
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- while his mother, whom Tityos had attacked, veils her head in shame and horror. Here you see again this duality between remote distance and alarming proximity: the bow and arrows (Apollo’s ‘normal’ weapons) vs a sword (note the scabbard across Apollo’s back: the sword is clearly his, not wrestled from Tityos). This contradicts the whole ‘sun’ imagery, but it must have been a popular and well-known tale, because we find it again and again in iconography.
(Plus, it’s one of my all-favourite cups, so I’m always happy for any excuse to share it. I mean, look at how the characters fit inside the circle, at the transparent fabric of Leto’s veil, barely hiding her profile  - at the fancy bracelet Apollo’s wearing! Perfection.)
3) Apollo is both cold logic and childlike idiocy
I know that by reading mythology anthologies, you’re left with this feeling all gods are sort of dumbasses and also very changeable, but that’s not so true - except when it comes to Apollo. Like, a very early myth, appearing in the Homeric hymns, is how he gets outwitted again and again by baby Hermes; another story, also incredibly ancient, is Herakles making him look like a fool while storming Delphi. And yet, this is also the god of reason, of logic, of science and moderation. We’re supposed to consider him wise and even-handed, almost Buddha-like - despite the fact he often gets outsmarted and reacts to that in very vengeful, extreme ways (think of Cassandra, or of Marsyas). Again, it’s possible what we see here is simply layers on top of layers - an original sun god, far and indifferent to human emotion, but also the archetype of the Young God, destined to be sacrificed and reborn, and also the conqueror and devourer of the one Grossman beautifully calls ‘Our Lady Underground’ - because Apollo’s powers of prophecy are just him taking over older (and possibly unGreek) rituals.
Ultimately, Apollo’s a kind of ‘everything’ god, embodying things as different as prophecy and rationality, health and pestilence, wolves and mice and dolphins - unlike Zeus, who fits in the mold of the Indo-European gods down to a T, Apollo was clearly a bit of a mystery to the Greeks themselves - so much so that he was given a disjointed mess of odd jobs and tasks. In a way, this always made me like him more - knowing even his people didn’t understand him very well lessened the pressure for me to try and make sense of him. Instead, I sort of chose to consider him the original problematic fave and decided to keep studying in a more relaxed way - to simply read stuff and enjoy.
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Author has written 17 stories for Hetalia - Axis Powers.
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If I lose the light of the sun, I will write by candlelight, moonlight, no light. If I lose paper and ink, I will write in blood on forgotten walls. I will write always. I will capture nights all over the world and bring them to you. – Henry Rollins
Hi! I’m George. One day, I will be a professor of history, who wears tweed suits and lives in a library. Right now, I am a graduate student, who wears jeans and t-shirts and… um… lives in a library.
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I am perfectly okay (quite ecstatically happy, actually) with people doing whatever they like with my fics – whether that be translations, fanart, cosplay, AMVs, whatever. You do not need to ask permission - I will always say yes. All I ask is three things. One: please credit me as the author (and a link to the original story would be fantastic). Two: please let me know so that I can check it out and thank you profusely! And three: something I hate to have to mention, but please never do anything to make money out of these works. Obviously, Hetalia does not belong to me – it belongs to the amazing Hidekaz Himaruya, who is incredibly awesome for giving us such fantastic characters to play with. :-D
MY STORIES
THE VERAVERSE
The Veraverse is a Hetalia World War Two AU, of fics involving different characters and pairings, all living within the same time period and all interconnected in some way. As each story in the series is named after and loosely based on the lyrics of a wartime song sung by Vera Lynn, I flippantly dubbed it the ‘Veraverse.’ The name has sort of stuck, however. I have posted a list of character's birth dates here: http://george-de-valier.deviantart.com/art/Hetalia-Veraverse-Birth-Dates-340315828
This series is, at its core, about the power of love over war. It's about the real reasons people fight, and the real reasons they survive. It's about finding something beautiful in the midst of something ugly and evil. But overall, although I hope there is more to these stories than just romance, they are essentially about love.
Don’t expect every fic to be updated quickly. These stories intertwine, and will be published simultaneously, and it may be a while between chapters for each specific story. Most can be read separately, however a few will require that you read at least one other story in the series to make sense of it (e.g. ‘My Echo’ does not make much sense unless you also read ‘Lily of the Lamplight.’) Rest assured, they will all be completed.
We'll Meet Again Alfred Jones/Arthur Kirkland (America/England)
Complete - Thirteen Chapters
‘We’ll Meet Again’ is about love arriving when you least expect it, and how it can transform loneliness.
Keep Smiling Through Alfred Jones/Arthur Kirkland (America/England)
Complete – One Shot
Just a little mini-sequel to ‘We’ll Meet Again’ about a brief moment in Alfred and Arthur’s lives.
Auf Wiedersehen, Sweetheart Ludwig Beilschmidt/Feliciano Vargas (Germany/Italy)
Complete - Eighteen chapters
‘Auf Wiedersehen, Sweetheart’ is about love being blind, proving stronger than hate, and lasting longer than war.
Bésame Mucho Antonio Fernandez Carriedo/Lovino Vargas (Spain/Romano)
In Progress – Fourteen chapters
‘Bésame Mucho’ is essentially about love overcoming fear.
Lily of the Lamplight Gilbert Beilschmidt/Roderich Edelstein (Prussia/Austria)
In Progress – Eighteen Chapters
‘Lily of the Lamplight’ is about selflessness, survival, and how love can change you for the better.
My Echo Unrequited Vash Zwingli/Roderich Edelstein (Switzerland/Austria)
In Progress – Six Chapters
‘My Echo’ is about how true love is selfless – even if it is unreturned.
Jealousy Ivan Braginski/Yao Wang (Russia/China)
In Progress – Six Chapters
‘Jealousy’ is a little different to the other stories in this series. It is about control, madness, and how love has the power to destroy as well as to save.
Something to Remember You By Sadik Adnan/Gupta Muhammad Hassan (Turkey/Egypt)
In Progress – Three Chapters
‘Something to Remember You By’ is about losing love, and yourself with it.
UPCOMING VERAVERSE FICS
Somewhere in France With You Francis Bonnefoy/Matthew Williams (France/Canada)
Darling, where better to meet again than the most beautiful city in the world?
It's a Lovely Day Tomorrow
Toris Laurinaitis/Feliks Łukasiewicz (Lithuania/Poland)
Art. Music. Passion. Destruction. Young, wild love, in the streets of Berlin, on the eve of war.
When I Grow Too Old to Dream Berwald Oxenstierna/Tino Väinämöinen (Sweden/Finland)
“What would you do if I just… took this tree? Claimed it for Finland?”
“I’d let ye take it.”
“This lake?”
“Ye can have it.”
“This entire forest?”
“’t’s yours.”
“Would you let me take your whole country, Berwald?”
“Yes. And you? What’f I just… took this rock?”
“You can’t have that rock. That’s a Finnish rock.”
You’ll Never Know
Elizaveta Héderváry/ Lili Zwingli (Hungary/Liechtenstein)
“But who knows? Maybe you'll meet a charming little Swiss girl with plaits and a basket who likes to yodel on mountaintops."
Elizaveta always hated it when Gilbert was right.
When the Lights go on Again
Eduard Von Bock/Raivis Galante (Estonia/Latvia)
"I will stay with him through this darkness. I will give my soul to keep it from him. And I swear, whatever I must do, that Raivis Galante will live to see the lights go on again.”
Room Five-Hundred-and-Four
Herakles Karpusi/Kiku Honda (Greece/Japan)
“Life's most important conversations take place in bars. Perhaps in places not too dissimilar from this - perhaps between people not so different from ourselves. Bars, after all, are where people meet, and where they rejoice; where they forget, and where they say goodbye. They are the crossroads of life."
"You sound like a philosopher. Though your name suggests a hero."
Faraway Places
Bad Friends Trio (France, Prussia, and Spain)
“Ah, those were the days, huh, Gil? Remember the time you tried to take on the entire Parisian police force?”
“Or the time you knocked yourself out running from that bull in Pamplona?”
“Or that time Francis tried to seduce your grandfather?!”
“Francis what?”
“Oh, look at that, I’ve finished my drink.”
Autumn Leaves
Augustus Roma Vargas (Ancient Rome)
But I miss you most of all, my darling, when autumn leaves start to fall.
OTHER FICS
THE MAPLEVERSE
This is a currently small modern AU, set in modern day Canada.
La Patisserie de la Rose Francis Bonnefoy/Matthew Williams (France/Canada)
Complete – Six Chapters
A birthday present for Claudia, aka ThisCouldTheoreticallyBeSparta
An essentially fluffy Franada with lots of cameos and cake and general silliness. I like to think this story is about friendship as much as it is about love. It's also about seeing something in someone that no one else can - not even themselves.
Libelle Hall Gilbert Beilschmidt/Roderich Edelstein (Prussia/Austria)
In Progress – Three Chapters
A Gift for Kay, aka Kay the Beta
‘Libelle Hall’ is about change, and about love growing from self-realisation. It’s also an examination of Gilbert and Roderich’s characters, and how they aren’t that different from each other, after all. And it’s a gift for my beta Kay, because she loves PruAus, and she’s awesome.
Of Ponies and Edelweiss Gilbert Beilschmidt/Roderich Edelstein (Prussia/Austria)
Complete – One Shot
A Valentines’ Day present for Claudia
Just a fluffy, romantic little fic for Valentines’ Day. Well, as romantic as Gilbert gets, anyway.
ONGOING MULTI-CHAPTERS
Catch Perfect Berwald Oxenstierna/Tino Väinämöinen (Sweden/Finland)
In Progress – Twelve Chapters
‘Catch Perfect’ is basically proof that I can’t even write crack without some semblance of plot and angst. I am still writing this, just ever so slowly.
The Tiger and the Dragon Ivan Braginski/Yao Wang (Russia/China)
In Progress – Seventeen Chapters
I first posted this story almost three years ago. Last year I started re-publishing it, mainly to fix up the writing quality and some plot points. Yes, it’s melodramatic; yes, it’s a bit cliché. Basically, if this were a published novel, it would be the type to have GAY EROTIC ROMANCE in tacky writing across the cover. But really, what the hell, it’s fun. :-D
COMPLETED ONE SHOTS
Stay With You Germany/Italy
A rare story with the characters as nations, and my very first posted fanfiction. I had just discovered Hetalia when I wrote this, and loved the random humour of it, but also wondered what it could be like if it was a more serious take on the Second World War. Also, it has always been blatantly obvious to me that Germany and Italy are in love with each other. Like, duh.
Gallipoli Australia and New Zealand
Another nation story from me, about a conflict embedded in the consciousness of every Australian. We haven’t been given much to go on with Australia’s characterisation, so I went with my gut instinct – he’s anti-authority, he’s an easily broken optimist, and he cares deeply about his men. Gallipoli shattered the romantic idea of war for this country. I think it would have shattered Australia, too.
Sleep, Little Bird Berwald Oxenstierna/Tino Väinämöinen (Sweden/Finland) and Peter (Sealand)
There is not much I can really say about this one, except sorry. Oh, and that it’s not in the same universe as ‘Catch Perfect.’ I wouldn’t do that. ;-)
LINKS!
http://george-de-valier.deviantart.com (deactivated account) - Where I fave and comment on the wonderful artwork that people have drawn for my stories. I adore fan art, so please tell me if you have drawn any! If I happen to come across art for my stories that I haven’t been told about, be warned, I WILL proceed to fave and comment on it anyway. :-)
www.youtube.com/user/ykwyh26 - My lovely and talented beta Kay’s YouTube site, where you can hear all the songs from my Veraverse stories.
VIDEOS
I am incredibly flattered that the amazingly talented Alyss Lane has written a gorgeous song based on ‘Auf Wiedersehen, Sweetheart.’ It is called ‘Auf Wiedersehen,’ performed by Willow, and you can hear this beautiful song here – www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N8T4oIppS0
The following are awesome AMVs for my fics, made by some very talented artists.
The Veraverse
Sanctuary, by Insomniac3Ltd
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfvTV5b9Zwk (unavailable)
We'll Meet Again
We’ll Meet Again, by Shokora15
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4COUwq9yzA
Wild Horses, by SirenShadow95
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaiMnawL3hM
Auf Wiedersehen, Sweetheart
Stereo Love, by snobo52
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH8-zY-3qiI
If I Die Young, by NightmareCCL
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkoVnwzwLlU
Stay, by PastaWithWurst
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i61AAOfNm4 (unavailable)
Auf Wiedersehen, Sweetheart, by Sydney Amber
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM9anzT81tM
Home, by Sanity4Fire
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjPTML1vjXA (unavailable)
Auf Wiedersehen, Sweetheart, by ShiroBaraLuv123
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qltINwf-ZkU (unavailable)
Bésame Mucho
Fear, by ykwyh26
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5Ak4O9P88
Slow Dancing in a Burning Room, by Kayleigh Turgeon
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDaLTw5wIs (unavailable)
The Only Exception, by InuLoverNr1Hitomi
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pt_sHtZfIw
Don’t Tell Me You Love Me If You Don’t Mean It, by AnnoyingGirl1234
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkcTKOAN8Y8 (unavailable)
Lily of the Lamplight
Lili Marlene, by xxEmoxxChibixx
www.youtube.com/watch?v=otYq31Qnct8
Sleep, Little Bird
Sleep, by Hetaliagirl96
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tOCsWjpNsk (unavailable)
La Patisserie de la Rose
Take Me Home, by Ahogemako
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwsX1rJ2CDo
Something to Remember You By
Lullabies, by Lanie P
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnRXhe2cdZw
STORIES WRITTEN FOR ME
These are all fantastic. Please check them out, you won’t be disappointed!
Mi Piachi perché Mi Piaci, by ThisCouldTheoreticallyBeSparta
(GerIta, Spamano, PruAus, BelgHun and teeny mentions of Franada, Netherlands/Australia, UsUk)
A wonderful birthday present of fluffy GerIta goodness from my wonderful friend Claudia.
www.fanfiction.net/s/7601790/1/Mi_Piaci_perche_Mi_Piaci
Maple Street, by fubibliophile
(Canada and America)
A really cool, atmospheric one shot from the very sweet fubibliophile.
www.fanfiction.net/s/7796628/1/Maple_Street
Chapter Four of Hetalia Fairy Tales, by Kitty-Kat Allie
(GiriPan)
An incredibly sweet GiriPan fairy tale from a wonderful author and a lovely person.
www.fanfiction.net/s/7730679/4/Hetalia_Fairy_Tales
1. Something To Remember You By » reviews
VV AU. 1914. Constantinople, Turkey. On the eve of war, street dweller Sadik Adnan's way of life and existence is called into question by the strange, beautiful Egyptian imam, Gupta Muhammad Hassan.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance/Tragedy - Chapters: 1 - Words: 4,732 - Reviews: 73 - Published: 5-30-13 - Turkey & Egypt
2. Lily of the Lamplight » reviews
WW2 AU. Austrian musician Roderich and German soldier Gilbert are forced into an army prison unit and a fight for survival on the Russian Front. But in the midst of blood and death and hell on earth, how long can they fight their desire for each other?
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance/Angst - Chapters: 4 - Words: 27,329 - Reviews: 557 - Updated: 5-21-13 - Published: 11-20-11 - Prussia & Austria
3. Libelle Hall » reviews
Modern AU. When Roderich Edelstein – student, musician, and reluctant activist – attempts to save a local music hall from destruction, he is not prepared for the conflicting emotions evoked in him by arrogant demolition worker Gilbert Beilschmidt. Gift fic for Kay the Beta.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: T - English - Romance/Friendship - Chapters: 2 - Words: 8,900 - Reviews: 174 - Updated: 5-6-13 - Published: 2-20-13 - Prussia & Austria
4. Jealousy »  reviews
WW2 AU. Insane Russian Commander Ivan Braginski is the terror of his battalion and his enemies alike. He controls the lives of thousands - but it is the memory of one that controls his own. Tie-in to 'Lily of the Lamplight.'
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance/Tragedy - Chapters: 1 - Words: 3,077 - Reviews: 80 - Published: 11-29-12 - Russia & China
5. The Tiger and the Dragon » reviews
Human AU. Awkward, average chef Yao Wang is sick of being thought of as boring and predictable. When he meets the enigmatic and slightly unnerving Ivan Braginski, Yao is immediately captivated. As he falls deeper it becomes apparent just how dangerous Ivan really is… but Ivan is just as smitten, and Yao may be too in love to care about the consequences…
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance/Drama - Chapters: 4 - Words: 12,967 - Reviews: 155 - Updated: 11-15-12 - Published: 8-25-12 - Russia & China
6. My Echo » reviews
WW2 AU. Captain Vash Zwingli is a soldier in someone else's war; a man mad enough to lead where others will not. He treads a fine line between life and death, between sanity and madness, in a constant battle to forget. But when Vash's past confronts him in the worst place on earth, will it finally tip him over the edge – or give him a chance for redemption? Unrequited SwissAus.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Angst/Drama - Chapters: 1 - Words: 2,378 - Reviews: 73 - Published: 11-15-12 - Switzerland
7. La Patisserie de la Rose » reviews
AU. Accountant Matthew Williams is used to being unnoticed, ignored, and forgotten. That is until pastry chef Francis Bonnefoy appears like a burst of colour in his dull, grey life. Gift fic for TCTBS.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance - Chapters: 6 - Words: 35,111 - Reviews: 573 - Updated: 10-10-12 - Published: 12-9-11 - France & Canada - Complete
8. Catch Perfect » reviews
AU. When Berwald loses everything he is forced to move into a share house with an insane Dane, a sociopathic Norwegian, an unfathomable Icelander and a perfect Finn who makes it all worth putting up with.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: T - English - Romance/Friendship - Chapters: 8 - Words: 36,538 - Reviews: 582 - Updated: 9-22-12 - Published: 10-10-10 - Sweden & Finland
9. Blue, White, Red » reviews
Human AU. 1777; The American Revolutionary War. Three times, American rebel Alfred Jones meets British soldier Arthur Kirkland. One blue; one white; one red.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Angst/Romance - Chapters: 3 - Words: 5,981 - Reviews: 369 - Updated: 9-20-12 - Published: 8-26-12 - America & England/Britain - Complete
10. Auf Wiedersehen, Sweetheart » reviews
WW2 AU. Feliciano Vargas is a passionate, if slightly scared, Italian resistance member. Falling in love with a German fighter pilot was the last thing he expected... and it will test his national loyalty, and his heart, to their limits.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance/Angst - Chapters: 18 - Words: 104,322 - Reviews: 3246 - Updated: 8-11-12 - Published: 12-18-10 - Germany & N. Italy - Complete
11. Keep Smiling Through » reviews
'We'll Meet Again' mini-sequel. Keep smiling through, just like you always do; 'til the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away! USUK
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: K - English - Romance - Chapters: 1 - Words: 2,376 - Reviews: 172 - Published: 6-28-12 - America & England/Britain - Complete
12. Bésame Mucho » reviews
WW2 AU. Lovino Vargas only ever wanted something exciting to happen in his boring, everyday Italian village existence. He never expected war, Resistance, love, passion, treason, or a cheerful, confusing, irritatingly attractive Spanish freedom fighter.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance/Angst - Chapters: 5 - Words: 39,037 - Reviews: 817 - Updated: 5-30-12 - Published: 8-1-11 - Spain & S. Italy/Romano
13. Of Ponies and Edelweiss » reviews
Gilbert Beilschmidt is not, generally speaking, a romantic man. Which makes his behaviour this particular Valentine's Day a little odd for Roderich to understand… Gift fic for TCTBS; spin-off of 'La Patisserie de la Rose.'
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: T - English - Romance - Chapters: 1 - Words: 4,143 - Reviews: 130 - Published: 2-14-12 - Prussia & Austria - Complete
14. Sleep, Little Bird » reviews
Human AU. Tino, Berwald and Peter are the perfect family. Things like this don't happen to people like them. But when they do, how are they supposed to accept it?
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: T - English - Family/Tragedy - Chapters: 1 - Words: 4,169 - Reviews: 294 - Published: 9-26-11 - Finland & Sweden - Complete
15. Gallipoli » reviews
Gallipoli, April 25, 1915. Australia is a young nation with plenty to prove. And war is where nations prove themselves.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: T - English - Drama/Angst - Chapters: 1 - Words: 4,966 - Reviews: 48 - Published: 4-28-11 - Australia - Complete
16. We'll Meet Again » reviews
WW2 AU. London pub owner Arthur Kirkland is driven to distraction by loud, brash American fighter pilot Alfred Jones. Unable to stop it, Arthur finds himself falling for Alfred's charms... just as the pilot is preparing to leave for war.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: M - English - Romance/Angst - Chapters: 13 - Words: 43,415 - Reviews: 1376 - Updated: 1-20-11 - Published: 7-18-10 - America & England/Britain - Complete
17. Stay With You » reviews
Germany lies defeated and alone in the aftermath of the Battle of Berlin... but not everyone has abandoned him.
Hetalia - Axis Powers - Rated: T - English - Angst/Romance - Chapters: 1 - Words: 1,325 - Reviews: 66 - Published: 5-4-10 - Germany & N. Italy - Complete
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casskeeps · 7 months ago
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herakles and the kerkopes
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date: 575-550 bce
location: temple c at selinus
subject
herakles and the kerkopes
the kerkopes are woodland creatures with a reputation for mischief
they stole herakles' armour, but were apprehended by him
he was so amused by a joke they made that he let them go
composition
herakles stands with his legs rigid and straight, with his feet flat on the floor - this is likely an attempt to convey walking, but instead gives an impression of stillness and rigidity
the composition is highly symmetrical - herakles' torso provides the central vertical line of symmetry, and the kerkopes are almost entirely mirrors of each other - this makes the metope feel more balanced, and effectively fills the space
heavily ordered composition, dominated by vertical and horizontal lines
the anatomy of herakles is highly detailed in the legs, with very rounded planes on the calves and almost bulbous ankle bones
the chests of all three figures are much flatter, despite being entirely frontal, making the metope feel less naturalistic and more flat
all three figures have an anatomically impossible twist at the waist - the legs are in profile but the torso is entirely frontal - there is no depiction of torsion in the waist
the feet are flat on the floor, which is not anatomically correct - the ideal male physique probably involved arched feet
the hair of all three figures is depicted with a repeated beaded pattern - this is not naturalistic, but highly stylistic and expected for the period
the hair of the kerkopes does respond to gravity and falls with some naturalism
archaic smiles again
the relatively shallow relief of the metope creates a two-dimensional effect - this is not particularly ideal
the shallow relief also makes the overlapping elements feel squashed together
scholars
woodford: "composition dominated by emphatic verticals and horizontals"
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douris · 5 years ago
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A silver tetradrachm struck in the name of Alexander III, though after his death, in Pella ca. 315-308 BCE. The obverse side shows Herakles in profile and the reverse is Zeus enthroned with an eagle in his right hand. New York, Metropolitan Museum 05.44.388.
The Argeadai regarded themselves as descendants from the hero Herakles and the appearance of the hero-god was not uncommon on Macedonian coinage even before Alexander. However, during his lifetime there was an effort by Alexander to liken numismatic representations of Herakles to his incredibly state controlled portrait.
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theambassadorposts · 6 years ago
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The truth is that Greek legends portray themselves and their heroes as multiethnic in origin. The Egyptian Danaus became king of Argos, and his daughter, Hypermestra, was an ancestor of the greatest of all Greek heroes, Herakles (Hercules). Perseus, who slew the Gorgon Medusa, married an Ethiopian woman, Andromeda, and their children established the most powerful of all the Bronze Age Greek kingdoms, Mycenae.
Another example of this nonracial perspective is found in the Histories of Herodotus, who, in the 5th century B.C., wrote that the purpose of his book was to, “preserve the fame of the important and remarkable achievements produced by both Greeks and non-Greeks”. The so-called Father of History” also said that Ethiopians “are reputed to be the tallest and most beautiful of all peoples.”
This portrait of Africans is not unique. Historian Peter Farb notes in his 1978 book Humankind that “Greek art, literature, and mythology often portrayed dark-skinned people with respect.” And then there are the remains found in a cave in Cheddar Gorge in southwest England of the individual known as “Cheddar Man.” DNA from his skeleton, dated to around 7,100 B.C., suggests that he had blue eyes, dark curly hair and “dark to black” skin pigmentation. Cheddar Man shares a genetic profile with several other individuals found in Spain, Hungary and Luxembourg.
The truth is that we are all one human family that had its origins in Africa. Amazingly, research by statistician Joseph Chang at Yale found that the most recent common ancestor of everyone alive today lived just 3,600 years ago. In other words, if you could trace your ancestry back less than 150 generations, you would find at least one person who is the father or mother of us all. And the further back in time one looks, the more common ancestors we would find. Chang concludes:
“Our findings suggest a remarkable proposition: no matter the languages we speak or the color of our skin, we share ancestors who planted rice on the banks of the Yangtze, who first domesticated horses on the steppes of the Ukraine, who hunted giant sloths in the forests of North and South America, and who labored to build the Great Pyramid of Khufu.”
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